Why Android notifications are better than the iPhone’s
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 เม.ย. 2018
- Everybody hates notifications, but why? In this episode of Processor, Dieter Bohn examines what Apple and Google are doing to manage them on iPhone and Android - and why Android's notifications are more humane. Subscribe: goo.gl/G5RXGs
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Actually, your 50 options is wrong. You ended up with 48 options with notifications on, so there's only one more to add: notifications off. It's actually 49, not 50.
That reminded me that I have to study for GMAT.
Victor Dobo what is GMAT ?
THANK YOU!
Duh
Vandelay Industries Option 50: uninstall app. So he's right.
Takes out calculator.
Doesn't use calculator
Does the maths wrong
I love stock Android's notification. Google implement it really well.
Shellyman Studios oh yes!
Using a pixel 2 and they are on point imo.
At the same time ive turned any notifications off on my ipad 10.5
It's the same on all android phones except Chinese phones that aren't meant for western markets
teyzfootball Thank you! I was starting to get upset with the whole "notifications are better on STOCK Android" thing. All Android phones (except for the mentioned Chinese ones) handle notifications exactly the same. Also, notifications haven't really changed that much on Android since 6.0, so if you have an older Android phone that doesn't receive timely updates your notifications are still handled better than the latest iPhone.
areeb1296 Yes, I have 7.1 and 8.1 on my devices currently (typing this on 8.1 right now). The changes to notifications were minor (just some grouping changes).
How would you fix notifications on your phone? - Dieter
The Verge turn them off
We can start by getting your shoes off the couch! Were you raised in a barn???
Use Microsoft Next Lock screen
@Bran T: Hi Mom -- Dieter
personally i only have sound on calls. rest of it are blocked or scilenced. Every app that i use for messages (instagram, sms and whatsapp) are on scilence and rest of it are blocked. i really don't wanna build a habit on picking up a phone when i don't need it specially when im driving car and if im driving a motorcycle i turn off sound all together.
About the math... I was wrong, but I think I see it both ways? I LOST SLEEP OVER THIS! Mostly I just feel bad because I made it all the way though Calc 3 without breaking a sweat so I shouldn't be so darn rusty :( - Dieter
The Verge You wasted a whole page doing your math! 😂
Your math is wrong dude...the answer is 49 distinct cases of notifications
Incorrect, it assumes that all the bottom options matter when the notification toggle is off. When the toggle is off, all the others are gone, so you can't consider their permutations as options
I'm sorry to tell you this... But "turning off" counts as 1 option because being "on" is just flipping the any other switches on... So it's 49 sets
The Verge you get a like just for "DA MYSTERY OF DA CHECK BOXES" XD
Google's is so nice, i especially love the in-line reply. The way I use notifications is block anything that isn't a direct message or important email.
Lashan how do you filter important email?
Quespa Inbox
iOS was actually the first to implement in-line replying. Happened in iOS 8 back in September 2014 and it wasn't until 2 full years later in September 2016 with Android N (7.0) that Google added the feature in.
4:33 did he just pinch in on notifications XD. You can just swipe down LMAO
Revanth Mahankali lol you should use your phone more.
Ashok Krishna IKR. Apple fanboys ugh. XD
Ashok Krishna you don't need to pinch. It hurt my chest seeing him fiddle around with a pinch.
BRONZE900 me too, you can swipe down or click the arrow
Apple user in nutshell
Have had my phone on silent for over 2 years (vibration also turned off) I have missed calls all the time, but i just call back when it suits me. I don’t feel like having a buzzing phone all the time.
Tim van Helsdingen I LOVE keeping my phone on silent. I’ve had mines on silent for about two years as well!
Tim van Helsdingen awesome! Take back the control. :)
Interesting. I might try your method this weekend. With my always on display , and my led notification, and my edge lighting i should have more than enough alert method to notify me for anything. Thanks for sharing ! :)
Sid Acidic The point is not replace sound for light, but take control over the phone and use it whenever you feel like doing, not when the phone says so.
What's the point of having a phone? To get alerted when something happens. So instead of buying a smart phone and having it on mute which completely defeats the purpose. How about just buy a cheap little track or minute phone so you can call and text and only get the important notifications.
This Verge series is on point!! Dieter is great too!
I got a notification to watch this video on my phone.
Yeah i got that too.
Irrelevant notification
koinda rtu 8
You don't pinch to expand grouped notifications on Android! You can do it with one finger. Please do full research before making and posting a video. An iPhone user would look at that and just dismiss that saying I don't want to use two fingers just to expand notifications, that is horrible UX!
Shubhendra Singh how do I expand them with one finger? I didn't know it was possible
Slide up then down on it (relatively fast). I haven't tested it on the latest Android version, but thats how I used to do it
Rubens Lopes you can just slide down on the notification card, or just push the little arrow
>An iPhone user would look at that and just dismiss that saying I don't want to use two fingers just to expand notifications, that is horrible UX!
Exactly what I've thought. Looks so weird
Shubhendra Singh settle down little fella
Apple really needs to redo their notification center.
Erwin Tjia funny how they used to group notifications with older iOSs but with iOS 7 and later they just don’t 😔 and everyone including themselves forgot that they ever grouped notifications like they should
I get iMessage notifications that pop up and disappear from the lock screen without me doing that by opening them or changing settings to do so, iOS notifications are still a big mess
IOS 12 has grouped notifications
The best segment of "The Verge"
Prima Cipta Pratama Without a doubt! But of all the reviewers that The Verge has, Dieter John, imo, is the best of all, he explains very well, his gestures are nice, and his physical presence, eh Ave Maria, What more could you want? 😉💯👍🏻📱🥃🥃 NOTE: IMO, ok?
You didnt even mention the notification led, notification icons(at the top), or always on displays that let you see what notifications are waiting for you without even pulling down the notification shade or unlocking your phone.
living meme exe lol didn't realize this guy was known as "mr apple." Guess that explains why he struggled so hard to pinch open those grouped notifications when he could have just swiped down on them.
Brett Domenick Notification LED is the best implementation, I just check the color and decide whether it is important.
And of course that fact that you can type to reply directly from the notification itself
BehelitOutlaw I think ios does that too(since like ios 10?)
Brett Domenick Yes, when the pop up notification comes to the top screen you slide it down and the answer box shows up, or you force press the screen. After a couple of seconds the notification disappears but you can swipe down the notification tray and force press the old notification to answer right there.
His watch changes from Apple watch to regular Analog watch throughout the video
...and throughout my whole life ;) - Dieter
The power of EDIT
Dheeraj Jain Ghorawath there was no Pixel watch.. so....
I strongly hope iOS someday includes a deeper system for notifications like that new Android system does. Some sort of customizable priority isn’t a bad thing by any standards, and I’d find it deeply helpful to have it set so only certain things come up in an app rather than them all, like having TH-cam only notify me when one of my relatively few subscribed channels uploads a video rather than both that and notifying me when someone likes a comment I posted. Just seems like such excess.
Really love this series.
By the way, you forgot to mention how one has to swipe up for recent notifications from the lock screen, but swipe down elsewhere in the system (on iOS). UI inconsistency 10/10.
A verge segment where dieter just goes on mini tangents is awesome!
Loved this vid! Really liking these new types of content you've been pushing for
I love swiping down the notification bar on my Pixel 2 XL, especially when I have multiple notifications. It's so satisfying seeing the icons animate from black and white to colored it pops out you'll notice it when you swipe it slowly, and then dismissing each apps (swiping left) is also very satisfying
Iphone user reviewing Android things..... You can use one hand to expend the notification by the way. And I use iOS and Android (ipx and Google pixel 2 xl )and the notifications are way better on Android. I think Apple should change that on iOS 12
i agree with you
Rich
I love how awkwardly you open the notification groups, Dieter. Ever tried just swiping down?
I don't wanna be that guy but I think it's acctually 49. The top checkbox doesn't give you another 2 ways just one.
YEAH I LOST SLEEP OVER THIS!!! I think I see it both ways? Mostly I just feel bad because I made it all the way though Calc 3 without breaking a sweat so I shouldn't be so darn rusty :( :( - Dieter
👍
Martin Šichta my man!
Yeah I had that thought too, but the point remains
I'm wondering what number did you get the first time, when you sad first time your math ws horribly wrong :D
I definitely tend to just turn off notifications from apps I don't like on Android, but in some cases like music apps that lead to them not showing me the playing notification either, which is a huge pain. Loved the video!
I think the notification snooze feature on Android is worth mentioning. I find it very practical
Lol, there's a simple solution. Have no friends. I don't get more than 2 notifications a day.
Oscar Lee and you're bragging about that?
Totally relatable 😂
bleu I, for one, can say that I brag about it all the time.
No-social related apps shows a lot of notifications only if you let them do.
just like u
I heard for the Processor from your podcast and I just love it!!
Solid video! The best on the topic, in my opinion. Also, just a well produced video as to be expected from The Verge!
49, not 50. But OK, this ain't no math channel.
Dev Aggarwal Exactly what I was wondering... how empty is our lives!
Shoes on the couch. Absolutely barbaric.
NO ONE DOES THAT
quality as always..love watching videos of this channel..keep it up 👍🏻
Great Vid!!
What's the Pixel case?
WOW! Greatest Channel Ever! Need more of Dieter
Dojo Dragon77 your standards are pathetically low
@@BalllKnowledgeFC not low ,its pretty good channel. go and watch your technical guriji
2:07 This week on Numberphile...
I've been using android for years and I didn't even realise that notifications are stacked by priority... I just expect it to be
Good points, well made. Enjoying your work Dieter.
Lol. Not gonna say iPhone notifications are perfect, cause it would be damn awesome if I could just group them, but other than that, I don’t really have any complaints. I’ve learned to turn off Twitter, Instagram, even TH-cam, cause whatever happens that they wanna notify me about really doesn’t matter to me if I haven’t opened the app myself and actually set aside time for whatever it is.
I don’t need to know the minute something is posted, just when I receive a personal message. Other than that, I’ll get to it when I get to it.
I always love videos from VERGE coz they are like conglomerate of reviews and all tech stuff!
They bring reviews from all areas. Like this one, very simple but important topic!
Thanks! :)
Very good video, really explains the problem. By the way a question, which Ultrabook for students is the best? Pls answer
I cannot describe in words how right he is. Thank you so much for putting this together in one script. They HAVE to totally revamp this entire topic from scratch.
Great video, the explain is very clear.
And i like stock android
Anas Adani i
Get your shoes off the sofa!!!
I like how Android tries to organize notifications in a sensible manner, and I really appreciate it after learning that Apple just naively dumps them in a chronological list. But I do find annoyances with the notification system of Android. Sometimes the prioritising and reprioritizing of notifications happen multiple times when I'm actively looking at the notifications, so I would annoyingly see the notifications getting shuffled around (even if there aren't any new notifications) while I'm looking at them. The worst part is when I try to open or dismiss a notification, and just milliseconds before my finger hits the screen, Android shuffles the deck and another notification takes its spot, getting opened or dismissed without my actual desire to do so. And your analogy to email makes a lot of sense. Notifications are treated as these disposable single-use entities, and they shouldn't be. They should be permanently stored somewhere, just like emails, where you can delete them, clear trash, organize, archive, and search old data, just like you do in email. There's no core function or third party app that reliably provides that functionality, and I want that. There are several times I accidentally dismissed a notification and wished for an archive of dismissed notifications that I can find it in. Or a notification from the past I'd want to recall.
I want to sort my android notifications chronologically
Yeah I can tell this series of videos is going to be good. Keep em coming.
2:40 you have a calculator next to you...
I love that guy
Zee-Al-Eid Ahmad Rana he is cute! He looks like my dad 😘
you are gay
iOS 7-8 used to allow notification grouping & ordering as well. It bothers me that they removed it on later iOS updates.
What was the case on your pixel 2?
Só Android does It better, but the focus is the iPhone? Also Android can snooze notifications.
I switched to iPhone recently and love how it handles notifications. The settings on how to see/hear them are superior to android and I am able to make all the apps individually alert me by: nothing, vibrate, tone only, and iMessage is the only one with banners. I also like that iPhone doesn’t clutter up your status bar with all kinds of notifications. The pass through philosophy significantly reduces notification anxiety/fatigue. It’s WONDERFUL.
What watch is Dieter wearing??
Which is that case you using for iPhone X?
Stock Android is unbeatable but only Pixel gives you stock, I have a Note8 sooo yeah no stock for me :-(
There are many Android manufacturers who offer near stock experience. Like Motorola, OnePlus, Nokia etc.
Wait What??? My Nokia 7 Plus Running on android one (Stock android)... with pixel like experience So its not only google pixel lineup with stock android, we already have many options
kokakoliah what? Where did you get that from? Yeah, there not manufacturing it anymore as the Pixel 3 is going to be produced soon, hence no need to produce a phone that's two years old. They still offer software updates for three years after release. Learn your stuff 😂
boxertest stop buying skinned crap from Samsung and the like, get a near-stock non-bloated phone from other companies. I like OnePlus coz they give a bloat-free stock Android experience with some very cool and useful tweaks added.
adtc I use Samsung. Bare bones android is not for everyone. I like to have more stuff to play with on my phone. Pixel is for those who used to iOS.
I had to rub my eyes again to see Mr apple was praising Android.
Maybe it's your Bias that makes him "mr apple" when he praises Apple
Mr Apple is Dan, not Dieter
I love how he opened the notification group though haha
david zwitser right I just pull down on it to open the groups
Nilay is Mr Apple
I have an iPhone X and I really appreciate that you put your camera a little bit far away so I can enjoy using all screen in my display without cutting your head. I love your videos.
Awesome video. Dieter is straight on the point here! Keep it going!
Dieter your math is wrong, should be 49.
oh i love this video.
Honor 8 finger print sensor was on the back and you can pull down the notifications with your finger (without touching the screen) ! It was a pleasure to judge the importance of the notification by myself. Great feature what I am missing.
With my custom rom I have ticker notifications enabled instead of them screen popping notifications. It basically replaces the entire statusbar with whatever notification is coming in and after a few seconds it will change back to the bar, doesn't interrupt, looks damn fine, works like a charm
they're not going to mention this ever, but Samsung's Galaxy Experience UI has the best notification handling on any smartphone.
it's the same thing, with a different styling. all the options and gestures are the same.
iOS' garbage notifications are reason enough to keep me on Android. Every time I try to switch back to iOS I just can't stay because of the notifications.
Mathieu Le François And iOS won't let you download music straight to your phone. You have to go through iTunes. Which is also horrible. Can't wait until I can upgrade.
Why do I love this guys voice so much? I love watching all of his videos, they’re so relaxing and informative
Really awesome video, Dieter makes it A+
*It's better*
Tech4droid Very cool icon I like Android P
Okay but everybody knows this though 😂 I’ve never heard a person say “ iPhone’s notifications are better than android’s ”
iOS notification system sucks badly. just throw notifications at you
Very on-point video and topic, great work!
I love these segments. Subscribed.
I hate iOS notifications. I just jumped from the s8 and went to the iPhone 8 plus just to see how Apple is now. Haven't had one since iPhone 5. They need to at least bundle notifications. It's funny how hardcore Apple fans say iOS is so simple.
Simple is boring.I’m bored of of my mind on my iPhone, that’s part of the reason I’m going to switch to Android.
Notification squad, anyone?
No.
This is your best content serious. I now check your update everything now and then again.
I agree about the complexity on the notifications. I went so far as to download a notification log history app which helps to organize the notifications even if I accidently swipe them away.
Android FTW!!!
LazyGamer 155 Agree but did you know ftw is wtf backwards Illuminati confirmed 👁
The way apple handles notifications is like 80% of the reason I went back to Android
Kevin French I'm switching back to Android soon. I bought an iPhone 8 because all my friends have iPhones and we group chat alot. This phone is absolute garbage. I don't know why people love iOS so much. The only good app is Garageband. I'll probably buy an iPad so I can keep my songs.
Kenn Hadnot lol do you even Whatsapp bro?
walter G lamfao dude you need to get a life..
Well there goes the thread
Sachin Majotra I'm assuming he lives in the US where WhatsApp isn't the standard.
What case are you using on the X?
At least they finally added notification grouping in iOS 12
iPhone non grouping of notifications are awful. But how the iPhone hides notifications unless its you looking at the screen is nothing but magic!
yeah I really do miss that when I switch away from the iPhone X. -- Dieter
That simply uses a front facing camera to try and replicate the iPhone (along with half of its design language ripping off Apples). Wouldn't really call it secure nor original.
It's 2 years ahead of anyone else in the industry (with the flood illuminator, dot projector and true depth camera). OnePlus are horrendously notorious for blatantly replicating the current generation of iPhone (when they're not being caught for spying on its users that is).
areeb1296 no that phone doesn't even have that feature
areeb1296 😅sorry I got a bit emotional
Ich woud like Group notifications on the IPhone 📱 maybe in iOS 12 =D
Mein Dispatcher says there is a Problem mit deine Kabel
That is actually the key problem with iOS notifications. They removed grouping since iOS 9 or smth and since then its the worst garbage. One app spams your notifications and you can‘t quickly check your notifications while swiftly deleting the useless once from certain apps all at once, its so cluttered. I found myself going into settings to disable notifications from apps that spammed me and reenable them after I cleared my others so I can delete them all.
This is exactly why I have my iPhone X jailbroken.
A tweak called InteliX does this, found here : repo.packix.com/package/com.ioscreatix.intelix/
Add to that the tweak Colorbanners 2 and all your notifications are coloured to that of the app icon, found here : cydia.saurik.com/package/com.golddavid.colorbanners2/
This combination is exactly what Apple needs to implement in the next iOS version.
This is great Dieter. Keep it up!
Love it! Keep 'em coming, Dieter! :D
as a Chinese, I want to tell you it should be 49 options instead of 50.
wow a whole calculus lesson right there 2:10
I thought of this too
Quick replies/actions on Android straight from the notifications shade is a major plus. (don't remember if it was mentioned)
In regards to Notification Channels, you do rely on the app developer somewhat. They aren't required to add these at all unless they increase their targetSdk to the version where this was added, and even then, they only need to add one massive bucket channel. Luckily, developers don't want users to take the nuclear option (as you astutely pointed to), so they have some incentive to create many channels.
I personally love the Apple Watch approach to notifications :)
Congrats, I cant stand it.
Not having to look at it but being able to tell what it is though feeling is very effective. And it means I can get context while maintaining eye contact and attention to others.
Martin why not putting a different vibration pattern in the phone itself or a notification led that it's so useful? It seems that you need to buy the whole "Ecosystem" so each individual product works well
Alan Silva because a watch is on my person at all times. I never feel my phone vibrate unless it’s in my hand.
Martin I think this is really nice! But if I don't like watches I'm faded to a messy and confused notifications page! Not even start to comment on widget page, in which you always need to click and open the actual app to get the real important information that should be right there.
I'm really trying to give a chance to iOS but my Android keeps telling me how really productive the system is, while the iPhone is just for social apps and media
Why android is better than iphone?
is it?
Diego Munhóz the Pixel 2 is a good phone with frequent and punctual updates. Doesn’t get updates for as long as iPhones though.
Diego Munhóz It's not the Android update policy. It's the OEMs update policy. Stock Android and some OEMs get updates right. If you stick to them, your android is just as secure and up-to-date as any iPhone.
IPHONE ADMITTED TO PERPOSLY SLOWING THERE PHONE WITH UPDATES AFTER REPETITIVELY THAT WASSINT TRUE
Yessss!!!!!
Also have notifications slowed anyone's phone on Android? Especially with software updates from individual phone makers?
What Pixel 2 case is he using?
iOS notifications are better in how many you get. But android is better at bundling them.
Shey Laplanche lol what? Explain.
Ew no! iOS notification is a mess, I hope they improved it on iOS 12.
Uh what? I’m using an iPhone and notifications are trash all around
That Tech Though on android you get a lot more notifications from the OS, on ios you almost only get notifications from apps you allowed to send notifications
What in the world? This is wrong in every possible way...
That machine learning thing you said is on android now, if it notices you slide away a message often it will ask if you want to keep receiving it.
Dieter, what kind of watch are you wearing?
Hello! Is there a way to allow the text messenger sound notifications to go through "do not disturb" mode along with favorite contacts calls? For example, you do not want all the calls to disturb you, but you want to be notified when your favorite contact is calling and when he sends you a message. I know how to manage the calls, but not the message sound notification. I can't find the message option in the "do not disturb" settings. Thank you for your videos!
Windows Phone notifications were SO easy and painless to deal with. It clearly showed on the notification section "ON: Banners, LED, Vibrate, Sounds". Not a headache at all
Can anyone tell me the name of the Pixel 2 XL case in the video?
Shoes on carpet and on the couch? Nice living room and useful tips in the video. Thanks.
Can we get an updated video?
One new thing I noticed on Android P DP1 is Google often puts a red DND icon on some of the notifications. If you click the icon it says that "You usually dismiss these notifications. Keep showing them?" Here you have the option to Keep Showing or stop the notification.
This is something that starts coming up after you use it for a few days. I think Google has already started using machine learning for notification like you said.
Anyone know what background he's using at 4:18?
"Mystery of checkboxes" is quite clear on Android. whenever a notification annoys you, again and again, you just disable that kind of notification directly from notificaton bar.
I don’t get it, you can allow each and every app to send you notifications or not. Using that you should stop ‘unimportant’ notifications from popping up. Also, having more options is way better for customizing controls to personal use. How is that a bad thing?