How to remove a run - removing clear coat runs
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ต.ค. 2024
- How to remove a run in your clear coat using a blade, 800 on block, 1500, 3000, 5000
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Big respect to you of putting this video up. I work with 30 painters and they all want to see each painter fuck up.
Grate video
+adam pye wow that's sad man! I'm glad that I'm not one of them and you can learn from me! Thanks man!
Same here in germany Adam..
they all Think their paintjob looks better if mine is not perfect..
Thats so stupid BS :/
Great video. No clowning around or other "entertaining" BS, just good detailed down to earth instruction. Thank You!
Never apologize for how long a video takes. If people don't want to learn from a 45 minute video on real life paint correction then perhaps they don't have the patience to actually do it. It takes major failures and major patience to do anything involving automotive repair in general. I've been 3/4 finished with the process you've shown and went through the clear. Oh well repaint time. Worth a try.
+M Sanchez wow thanks man thank you very much for that I really appreciate comments like this!
M Sanchez that is true people watch those custom car shows and things where they take a POS and make it a bad ass work of art at the end of the 30 min show and think the whole thing took no time when in reality it probably took months and months to complete
The actual act of painting something takes no time the prep to get it in the booth and after it comes out is the time consumer
M Sanchez anytime you have clear coat run offs you can just wet sand straight with the 1500 grit or 2000 sand paper . Everyone has different ways to handle these matters . We live we learn . This channel is real educational tho
+Scdavid323 thanks man !!
This is a good tip nothing wrong with getting a run once in a while everyone get them it matters how you finish it at the end of the day! I wish i worked at a good place like this where i was free to just do the jobs unfortunately my boss is an A hole and if you get a little run he gives you hell for two days 🤷♂️
That A hole !!
I've never tried the razor blade method, but my next big run I will try it, I tried the putty method a couple of times, the first time with the putty my clear coat was still a little soft and the putty reacted and melted through the clear, so after that I stayed away from putty, I use a razor blade method for catty filler (I think you call it bondo) on bonnet/hood, stone chips/road rash, same idea filler on, scrape it down then sand, I'll give this a try,.. door handles are a pain that's where it runs for me, most come off easy now a days, or I flip mask around it Good video and what ever way works for that person to get to the same finish line, to know different methods is priceless
It is called letting the razor blade shave off the excess clear coat down to the existing level of the finish. Going outside the existing sanded portion of the project area that has already been sanded is called feathering or blending in the edges so that there are no noticeable edge lines.
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Great Videos. You are super talented. Whoever makes negative comments is wrong. Sharing ideas and methods learned from other talented people is what inspiration is all about. We never stop learning a craft. Keep it up!!!!
3m if you check their tech info they say “new and improved trizact” and the 1500s are to be used dry and I’m not surprised they changed their tune because wet they used to quite often disintegrate leaving little pieces of the grit stuck in it causing pig tails all over
I am amazed that he was able to keep his composer that well, the best part is their is gonna be multiple people that think it's a good idea to try
Grabbing the razor lower and wetting the area during use was gold thank you. You should try the motorguard brand run blockers. Its a set of 3. They are $24 USD. Made of aluminum but with a smaller footprint so to speak. When I get runs I go straight for 2000 3M paper with those blocks. Then I go with 3000. The cheaper clear I use doesn't like to be corrected at all. Let alone with anything coarser than 2000.
Thank you for this video. I just did my first paint job on my car in my garage. It turned out pretty good, other than several clear coat runs. This helped me out tremendously. I can't thank you enough.
The best professional I've ever seen. and I saw many. I understand your advice better than in my own language
Haha thank you!!🥰
I like the way you shoot the videos with a GoPro. I have thought about doing that for a while now. I refinish pianos. There are lots of 90° angles and stuff where runs like to happen. It's impossible to get a buffer anywhere near some of those places. I've discovered you can use a nib file and knock down little drips and buff them out with your finger
Awesome vid, thank you very much, keep up the good work. Everyone gets runs, if you don't you're not trying hard enough. God bless
+Dennis Keys that's right haha thanks man!!!
That what i always say as well!
Dennis Keys true I been painting for over 20yrs and still get runs from time to time, you just can't control gravity thats what I tell myself😁
+watever haha correct!!
There is a fine line between a couple runs and making your paint job one big run. The closer you are to running a paint job the better it is going to look
Great Video. Step by Step without editing. I did the exact same thing on my Clearcoat pass: To close, to heavy.
I use the same method when I have to do this, I personally don’t use a DA. But that’s preference. I also try to keep my sanded area as small as possible to avoid changing the peel I tried to match to the vehicle. Great information for others, nice work!
Thank you!
" Great information for others" Freagin know it all.
Very useful and very impressed, thank you! Now I know how to do it, I just need your patience!!😇
Hahaha
Omg! That run wasn’t horrible, but by the end I never would have suspected it was ever there. Great job! Thanks for posting.
Those 3M trizact pads are awesome. Pricey but definitely worth it. Great tip about wiping the sanding grit off of the panel before moving to a higher grit. Thanks for taking the time to make this video and sharing your knowledge!
+da teatorjr yeah they are great! Thanks brother!!
MOTIVATED PAINTERS oh and like you said, when you think you’re done keep going. Hahaha! Ain’t that the truth!!
+da teatorjr yeah 😂
The first time I used that 3000 grit trizac i fucking jizzed my pants. 1500 trizac to 2000 norton softpad to 3000 trizac soft pad changed my life and bank account.
Completely blew me away. The aggressiveness scares me but this video has shown me not to be scared to attack the job the way you did. Thanks for the education.
Your welcome 😀
those 1500 grit mini cube blocks are awesome.The oldschool metal ones with the grater you pushed in one direction worked great to.
Again great job Gabreil as always when your done it looks great thx for all the tips i appreciate it
You did the same thing I do on show cars,great job. Don t worry about haters out there keep doing you. Quality comes down to the person and it shows. Thumbs up
+812STUDIOS wow thanks man!! I really appreciate that!
thanks for sharing !!! Wish me luck on my "runs" tomorrow :P
Get it done
As long as the contour of the panel allows it, this is the only technique I use. Awesome page man 👍🏻
+Glock23likeMike thanks so much man I appreciate your comment!
great video, in the middle of some paintwork on my own car, got carried away and have some runs. this is very helpful! thanks.
Great tip again! I use to put some tape over the corners of the cutting egde to only use the mid section as a "scraper" and not accidently cut into the clear with the blade's corners. Sometimes you don't put the blade on all flat and miss the angle just so slightly, which makes you kinda "cut" the clear with the blade's corners. Better be safe and tape them if you just start to learn using this method!
take some 320 or 400 grit put it on the window on your booth and sand the corners down works wonders
I run alot, its always too cold painting in new england winter conditions. Those caps i cut off from the run, i call contact lenses haha.
JFabrication it does suck painting in new england with no booth!
Majik Kasja thats the struggle
I switched to a fast catalyst and it helps. Cold here too!
When you think you're done, keep going! Great advice for the bedroom
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That’s the way I was thought to do it and I feel like it’s the most effective way to remove a run
I just use 800 grit with small hard block, then work my way up to 1500 or 2000, works like a charm every time.
Quiet on the set! We're filming here!
Do you ever do an alcohol wipe to make sure there aren't any scratches that were filled?
Also, how did you cut the cap off the run without leaving a divot? Looks great and chock full of great info.
+Kent Buehrer HAHAHA you funny! Sometimes I have screwed it up like that yeah! It's important to keep it as flat as possible
Keep it up mate, looks really good. I know nothing about paint work but have really learnt from this. Thank you.
+Mark Delport wow awesome man!!!!!
Haha I like the new jaded Gabriel love the sarcastic negative jabs it was awesome !!!
Awesome work man I love how your not afraid to admit when you have a stuff up 👍
+Michael Woods I know we all do it and have our days so I will not hide it 😊 specially if it can help people!
A lot of work for sure but the time it saves buffing is well worth it. Great tip on polishing off the edge and not toward it.
+PainterFRO 😊😊😊😊😊😊
very clean job well done
Thanks brother !
Thanks for the video. I need to remember, that when I feel I’m done, I just keep going 😎
Nice...learned a lot! I got some runs in a gas tank I painted with single stage urethane and had to hang the tank vertical to paint. I went too heavy, and should have waited longer on the tack time between coats--and because I don't have a booth, painting outside...you get the idea. Anyway...I could wet sand and re-shoot the top 1/2 of the tank.....but...wanted to try to get the runs out first, and I learning to deal with these mishaps, evolve the old grey matter. Anyway....thanks for spending the time for showing all your steps...and no, your video wasn't too long. Adding all the details helps the novice trying to learn. Kudo's
Haha it happens! Thanks so much !!!!😍
Thanks for the Video Sir really helpful will be finishing up Autobody Paint and Repair training in May,had a few runs with clearcoat was able to properly correct my error thanks to your how to video. Thanks alot
Awesome!!!!
Good morning Gabriel. What a great save. Menzurnz polish and Flex buffer. I will have these products this week. Thanks for a great video. As usual, really great tips, tricks, and techniques. Take care.
+Steve Janka thanks my friend glad it was useful!
Thank you very much. It's especially nice that you didn't edit your video. So many videos are so edited that you don't get a real sense of the struggles and details to get through the entire project. Thanks again, great video.
Thanks so much brother !! Glad you like it !
We do this at my shop as well. I like to tape the edges so the blade doesn't cut in.
The edges of the blade or the edges of the run?
Blade
I just run the sharp corners of the blade on the floor round them out no dig in issue I also bend the blade just a wee bit seems to make it cut easier. We call getting runs marathoning around the shop.
Don't know if you ever tried it. Mix up a small amount of poly filler and spread it thin over the run. Block wet with 400 and graduate up to 2000 .. works perfectly with patience every time on any guaranteed!! Try it sometime
+Jay Carr I need to try it I just never have haha
Jay Carr heard about that a lot over the years but never actually had the balls im gonna try it
I like using this trick, I don’t have as much finesse so I tape the corners of the blade so I don’t make any surprises for myself lol
This is a great experience, i really learn a great trick today, you never too hold to learn. i love that demo, i learn a lot bless.
Thank you!!
Great video Gabe, thanks for sharing your process, nice job brother, I’ve always done the putty trick, I get a bit crazy with a blade in my hand lol,
+richiet74 😂😂😂 thanks bro!
Great content and love the commentary.
Great work. I'd invest in some higher quality microfiber towels from detailing specific companies. Also the 3M pads are okay but you could try Lake Country pads as well for the flex. Awesome to see you using the menzerna line of polishes as they are MUCH better than the 3M perfect-it system. Very little dust, long working time and even the heavy cut compound actually finishes down well on most surfaces.
I like to use a Sharpie as guide coat, works well, and for small areas I use the 3m perfect it denib kit
This video take me 45 min, but i learn a lot for all my life. Thank you. I hope that runs clearcoat will not happen to anyone, because it really takes a long time to repair it!
Wowowowoeoeoeoeoeoe that's amazing !!!!!!!!!thank you for taking the time to write this! It's so encouraging!!!
Great video. You do amazing work!
Thank you so much !!
Brillant job, thank you Colin from Somerset England
Much love !
Good news/bad news:
Bad: I had to try your method
Good: it worked awesome.
Instead of the razor blade, I used a carbide block made by Festool. Really liked the way it shaved.
Thanks for the great video and tips!
Awsome work man....great live video and thanks for pointers on what to look for...keep up the work
+yup duece dekgado wow thank you souch man!!!
Thank you for your video, I have learned a lot.
Hey Gabriel thanks for the video man I was waiting for this one! watched the whole thing! Looks great.
+marcus jenkins thanks man!!!! I'm glad it helps!!!
You are really the best👌Since im looking your vids some things are much easier to do. Tnx
+matic brate haha thanks man!!! 0 😊😊😊😊
Thanks for the tips!
Nice man.. i love wet sanding buffing..
+jay pills haha 😀😀😀
Great video 👍 Keep up the good work
Nice. 2 questions.
1. Should/could i wet sand base before clear?
2. Can i put clear on high gloss paint?
There shouldn't be a reason to wet sand basecoat before clear. But if you must then make sure is not waterbased base.
You need to sand anything before you apply any type of paint on it
Ur doing an amazing job man awesome work. Is that a flex buffer I see laying there? I have one in my shop. It’s the best.
Removing runs takes practice n patiance, the more you do it the more you become a master at it. You live n you learn any good painter needs their amount of errors to become successful, even the best painters have mistakes. Great video lots of info on how to evolve into a great painter, always having a plan B. When this happens I think of this as a signature series paint job by the painter more valuable. Lol.
Thanks so much !!
I always see your videos. Bravo big like from your Roma (gipsy) friend from macedonia 👍🏻
+thebmw7 wow so cool! Thanks my friend!!!
I use a dirt nib shaver for this. No chance of digging in. It's like a tiny file attached to a piece of wood.
Awesome
Awesome upload bro i use the same process except i dont use 5000 mainly because my shop doesnt have any :( keep up the good Work and God Bless You
+marina m thanks bro!!!! 😀😀
Thanks for the tips 👍 it’s definitely going to help
Thank you so much for sharing this information. Just what I needed. Beautifully explained. Cheers...Love you too :)
Wow so happy it helped 😭😭😭
Great video very good job thanks for posting
came out really good
+dasgreen 😀😀😀
love your videos, its been helping me alot at work!
+04av6 awesome !!!!!
i have another question bro, what causes pinholes in the clear? I have had this stressful issue on the last two cars I worked on. After prepping, dewaxing the work panel, making sure no dirt or chemicals left on the panel, I paint, wait for paint to dry, then clear. Once I clear and its baking, I see tiny pin holes start to form a little underneath the clearcoat. I tried sanding it down but its way below the clearcoat. Do you think its because I first coat with a light dusting? I dont think it could be a reaction to anything.
+04av6 depend on what clear you are using. What you are seeing it's called Solvent Pop and its course by to much clear to fast and bake to fast. You really should look at the technical data sheet for whatever clear you are using and follow it. For example if I don't let ten minutes flash in between one of my clears then that happens
Great vid as always, super in depth details 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
+Simon Frostick thanks man I really appreciate that!!! 😊😊
Try a festool
The best video ever. Thank you
That clear really started sagging around the door handle, but great how to, this is the exact same way id fix it.
+Val 😀
Amazing video I did my golf R it came out perfect!!!!
you can also put a piece of quarter inch masking tape on both sides of that razor blade works a bit better imo.
Great video of course! I am curious if you ever get pigtails using the DA? I can’t seem to avoid them even using Trizact with interface pad and distilled water in spray bottle.
Sometimes I see some but not often I don't use an interface pad though
Thanks for the video ,nice work
Thank you !
mexicanas is what I call them. sadly I still can not get my grove back after years of not in the shop. but then again, I can not get right supplies to do the job right, let alone winter coming and the booth is outside with a kero heater in the booth for heat. problem solved. next year my resto shop will be open again
Stay positive keep growing subscriber's and do some live video's bro!!!
+JBIRD575 thanks man!! I'll try!
Nice job bro it work for me.
Great vid man very informative
+Bryan Milelr thank you!
That was a awesome Job..
Thanks !
Your an awesome guy,your self esteem seems low,there is no reason for this,I believe in you,I believe in your honesty,and we love you too
great video....got to get a fairly large run out on the door jamb...never tried a razor but I'm going to now! What backer pad is on your DA when using those 3m pads?
These 3m polish pads are double sided and have a snap system in the middle
Where is the orange peel, after that operation, Gabrielle :)
Try that with MS, HS autocolor clear - so tiny bit :d
Expensive and good quality of lacquers , actually make and show how good painter are you \\//
Anyway well done! :d
I've been watching a bunch of your videos and you've been granted the title the paint Whisperer LOL you didn't say "nice" at all when you buff just when you put the clear and paint on great job
Hahahaha!!!!!! 😁😁😁 That's so funny !!! I'll take it !!!
I personally prefer 800 block-1000/1500/2000/3000/4000..because in my opinion the step from 800 block to 1500 machine is to big...but if it works this way than it's ok also👍👍btw love your blogs..keep up the good work.."painting cars isn't just a job, it's a way of life, a man made handcrafted art and the daily motivation to deliver quality and perfection!!"
+ivo braam. Sniper Paint yeah for sure brother I agree better safe than sorry! Thanks so much for the live brother!
good job brother👍👍👍
Thank you!!!
Very useful information
Very nice class..and the narring too..cuidate mcho
put tape on both ends and use the middle.alot less risk of making a mistake.
Great video..thanks
The first time I removed one of my famous runs like this, I was a nervous wreck lol but it worked no respray.
+chevelle4x4 haha same! Everytime!
number 1 is match the factory finish around the repair
Yes sir
Looks great thanks for the vid
+MrFireman164 thanks brother!
Hey Gabriel hope you doing good , it's coco record! ........ soon I'll make a new channel so you can see what I learn!
+LORS13 awesome man!!!!
How would you do this if the car had factory orange peel ? Wouldn't this create a big flat polished section?
Blend it out with 1500 3000 5000 I haven't had an issues
Premium content as always, thanks for sharing, appreciate it so much!!!
+Sarunas G wow thanks man!!!