Not true people can change my boyfriends dad did but he’s not with his mother anymore. They both have a good friendship and have moved on from the past.
@@treallocdin add to that, you need to pick up a dictionary and learn HOW to spell UGLY ASS, they are 2 words, not uglass. You people need to do better with education.
Definitely understand, as a parent myself now…but our kids gonna do whatever even if we try to stop it. I’ve witness my sister not speak with our dad took it far to threat to kill our dad only cause my dad was trying to protect her. It only stopped when we found out my abusive ex brother in law r**** my sister daughter and got her pregnant. It took 10 years for my sister to get away from him 😔 smh. Now all of a sudden she asks my dad for forgiveness, my dad loves his daughter but also upset cause now she is a grandma to her grandson who is also belongs to her ex.
Unfortunately i have seen daughter's and sons turn on their parents and family when they have tried to intervene in tgeir abusive relationship. It usually results in them upping sticks and disappearing with the partner. Its like stepping in when u see a fuy beating on his girl in the street...9/ 10 tgey both turn in you... abusive relationships suck for everyone. And remember if u end up in jail saving her from this one you won't be there to protect her next time.
He's calling his child an "it" so that he doesn't have feelings towards what he did to their own daughter!! "Burn it, bury it or throw it in the ocean" thats just very disturbing
Since there was a cut in the footage right before Liang says "Burn it, etc." I thought maybe the interrogator had rephrased the question as "What did you plan to do with the body?" and maybe they edited out that rephrased question for dramatic purposes. But I found the full uncut interrogation on TH-cam, and that part of the interview is actually exactly as they showed it in this video. Strangely, that appears to be the only time that Liang refers to Ashley as "it" in the interview. Everywhere else he says "she", "her", and "Ashley". I wonder if saying "it" was a way for Liang to emotionally dissociate from the grisly thought of having to dispose of his daughter's corpse.
Yes, I picked up on that too. Even from the time he was reporting her missing, he was fishy with his call to cops. If a child that old had a diaper, possibly she was having longer term issues with the parents and had pyschological issues. It's not usual for a child without disabilities to wear diapers until they are this old. Such cruel behaviour of an innocent child, who dies at the hands of someone who should love them.
Ok so the police warned Ashley that she was gonna die YET they didn't arrest him for having a weapon as a felon. Police officers arrest felons for this all the time. The cops failed in this situation. Big time.
They are TIRED of it; She would just get back with him regardless of what he did to her, and everyone knew it. She got off on the abuse as much as he did making up after...She would push his buttons, he would tool her up, then it was back to exctasy for the next month or two; Most likely corresponding with her fertility cycles...Both of them were oxytocin addicts.
Pardon me sir, but this woman survived a literal gunshot to the back of her head, and even was able to verbally reassure her young child while going into shock- I don’t know what weak is, but it ain’t that!
Trying to leave an abuser is the most DANGEROUS time of all. It’s also the reason that the law in South Carolina doesn’t require the victim to cooperate. He should have been arrested idc if she wanted to or not.
Yes once again police don't take violence against women seriously and another woman is dead. I was reminded of Lauren McCluskey recently. There are so many cases like this. How long will it take before it's taken seriously?
Exactly!!! So when you get the chance to walk away, with the children, why invite him into your home again? Why? Forgiveness doesn't mean sleeping with the beast!? A glass of wine, can be shared in a restaurant, bar, pub and so fort, don't bring your basher to the house! Then we blamed authority, yet she wasn't listening to her parents, she didn't listen to the advice of the force authority, and deliberately invited him inside their home to drink/ sleep over. No that's not acceptable.
I hear so many people say this, yet how many casss have you heard of where parents actually do this? It’s easy to say it when you’re not in the situation. I know we believe we are capable, but in the end I think it’s ingrained in us that we can’t take justice into our own hands. There is a morality switch in us (in decent people, not the POS that do horrible things) that is hard to just switch off. I’d like to think I’d take matters into my own hand, but I don’t think anyone can say for sure until they’re facing this. There are so many women who’ve said “I’d never be in an abusive relationship”, then suddenly they’re in one and so lost on how they ever got into it when they knew better. This man lives with enough regret. He doesn’t need people that have never been in this situation criticizing & placing blame.
*Soooo he had to "defend himself" by shooting both girls in the BACK of the head. At least one of the from 8-10 feet away... And his Dad believes this?*
After the police see evidence of serious abuse and violence, they just put their notebooks in their pockets, turned around, and walked off? SMH This is why folks take things in their own hands. My sister had a boyfriend who broke her arm. Her son found out and found the guy at the park. He beat him down seriously and broke the guy's arm. Let him know that every time he saw him, he was going to kick his ass. We never saw Willie in the neighborhood again. He got going and stayed away.
Lessons Learned: 1. NEVER let an abuser off the hook by not pressing charges (thinking things will get better) LEAVE and stay left. 2. NEVER bring the abuser into other peoples' homes or lives
Yes, AND we can all help by resisting society’s maniacal emphasis on the value of being in a relationship at all costs. Let’s normalize not needing a partner bc you really don’t. If you’ve got kids, while undeniably challenging, Single parenting is so much better than being abused, and imprinting that onto your kids. Let’s normalize insisting that a potential partner meet a higher bar- they better be more enjoyable than ones precious solitude. Impress us.
3. Learn more about how abusers work and how dv actually works before you tell victims/survivors what to/not to do. 4. Put all the blame and responsibility where it belongs - the abuser. 5. Stop victimblaiming. 6. Stop abusing people, go to therapy and deal with your anger, grow up and take responsibility over your own actions like an adult. Abusers are extremely manipulative and it’s not as easy as it seems to “just up and leave”, the tactics they use to make sure you stay with them are incredibly disturbing and terrifying, sometimes the victim/survivor stay because it feels safer knowing where the abuser is and how he moves, rather than cutting off all contact and constantly worrying about when he’s going to find you and strike. Please learn more about this topic, it really isn’t as simple as you seem to think it is.
@@Sanber21 Victim blaming? Not sure what you're referring to (my comment?). Anyway, my learning about this subject comes from my own experience in several abusive relationships and counselling. I've left several relationships before it got worse(which guaranteed it will).... thereby taking responsibility for myself and my child. A victim is not to be blamed, but it's still their responsibility to leave. It's hard to "up and leave" sometimes but in most cases it's not that hard. "But I love him/her" is no reason to stay. You can love from afar but suggest to keep that love for yourself. Yes, to be safe: "knowing where the abuser is and how he moves". Certainly good to know the habits and make a safe exit. I made sure to move out of the area he inhabited. But maintaining contact is tricky (dangerous) bc by maintaining contact, it's a double-message to the abuser: "It's all ok now" "they still love me" "I can persuade/manipulate them back". Also, you'd be amazed at the little tidbits of information they can gather from you while you're speaking. I learned the old adage is true: "Love is as perennial as the grass". I also learned to claim my part in the cycle of abuse. There are ways to de-escalate a tense situation and that takes education. A psychological dynamic often at play is narcissism. (research on UTube) there's tons of counsellors who can help.
This POS has multiple domestic violence incidents including posting what he’s done on his own Facebook yet his Dad believes he was provoked?! Wow. RIP to Ashlee and I’m praying for her sister, their kids, and family.
Most people who turn out to be monsters are enabled by their parents who make excuses for their antisocial behaviors while growing up. The dad is probably doing what he has always done i.e. excusing his son's violence by claiming he was provoked or was attacked first and only defended himself.
This is why many states now have laws not allowing police to ignore dv situations and allowing them to arrest and prosecute despite cooperation from abused person.
I can see giving people a pass one time if the victim doesn’t cooperate. But if it happens a second time, or a perpetrator already has a conviction there should be mandatory arrest every time.
Great reason to advocate for better birth control options to be available in the US- maybe even any that don’t have punitive side effects (google the Gynefix Mini if you’re curious what excellent methods and devices are available pretty much everywhere but here - I flew to Canada to get mine implanted almost 10yrs ago, and it has literally changed my life more than I could have imagined, just to not have that fear of accidental pregnancy lurking in the background of my landscape of shifting anxieties)
When is the law going to toughen up on domestic abusers? Clearly, the psychological dynamics are such that victims cannot be left to navigate this minefield alone. It’s not good enough to just wipe their hands and say, "Well, she didn’t want to press charges." That is straight up neglect of a vulnerable person, and it's despicable. They frequently remove children from abusive homes, why can't they remove the abuser as a duty of care?
That’s exactly why my abuser was able to beat my child out of me! I was too scared to press charges even when his granny called the law on him. Also I was a minor and he was 10 yrs my senior. Still the law did nothing, they never even questioned my age!!
This gonna sound horrible but women as beautiful as Ashley have choices. They like them guys with an edge, that swag, the take control sort, which isn't too much to ask but about 65% of those guys are toxic sociopaths by nature.
I get so sick of the EXCUSE she won’t press charges! Women don’t press charges… that’s the police’s job. Press them despite what she says. If you have evidence then charge him and take the crap to court
How many females who press charges and when the police try to actually arrest him, she's screaming in the background "What are you doing ? Leave him alone ! Don't hurt him !" ?? 🧐
He can beat a woman but he's a coward when it comes fighting a man. It's a shame that women go back to that abuse. My mother did the same until she was shot in the head but thank God she survived.
People don't leave a abusive relationship for many reason. The abuser will threaten the victims if they tell, or worst threaten to kill family members, children, or pets. The fact that this guy posted his beatings of his victim is very sick. I feel so bad that , like many victims of DV, she had to endure this violence for so long. RIP.
They do that to try and frighten the victim but people should get out as soon as possible!! Anyone who abused their partner ISN'T a real man or woman 😢 It's disgusting that this does happen in the real world.
I thought the same thing. It makes me think mag d she had a disability which could’ve added to the stress of her behavior. Not an excuse for the parents but could explain what was going on with the little girl.
Abuse (even verbal) can cause kids to start bedwetting or have accidents, the stress reverses the years of potty training. It's a documented symptom of abuse and the effect it has on children.
Because they don't face consequences for their actions. So they escalate. Chad brutalized his girlfriend numerous times and even posted the evidence of Facebook. He wasn't arrested and she kept going back to him. What incentive was there for him to stop?
I have no sympathy for women like this that keep on going back to someone that beats the fk out of them.. her Dad tried NUMEROUS times to talk reason into her.. Im 60 yrs old and NEVER once raised my hand in violence towards a female.. NEVER!!.. Spent 19 yrs with a very mean woman.. She LOVED to "fight".. by fight I mean She LOVED to just argue.. or meaningless crap too!!.. She would slap, punch, etc. Me .. what made her the most angry was that i REFUSED to engage with her.. i would not say one word.. just look at her like she was nuts.. which she was.. she was EXTREMELY Bi-polar.. I finally walked away & divorced her.. She went ballistic!!.. evrn in the Courtroom in front of the Judge.. Judge put her on jail for 3 days for her behavior in Court (Contempt of Court) Took me 8 months to get Divorced.. our 13 yr old son told Judge he wished to live with his Dad.. Judge granted it.. she was ordered to pay me child support.. she wouldn't pay a dime & i didnt even bother to take her to court (she worked in a Drs office for 18k a yr.. i had a Union job at 150k a yr.. i didnt need her money).. These women that just keep going back to brutal abuse .. KNOWING the abuser will never change.. NO, i have no sympathy for them
“Lyes thinking the fight was over, step outside” bro WHAT?!?! Where was he when the shots were ringing off & HIS GIRL WAS BLEEDING OUT?!?! A city full of WEAK men.
People who commit DV/IPV are just bullies with brainwashed victims. Brainwashed into thinking that they (the bully) care or even love them. That's how my psychologist tried to explain it to me. Watching TC YT, I can see it's true. But when I lived it, I truly couldn't see it. And I tried very hard to see it. So if you know someone in Ashley's situation, don't get angry at them when they don't or can't see what you see, but don't stop trying to help them see it. They will, just needs time, it can't happen overnight (sadly)
It's insane to me that ahslee KNEW Chad had a weapon,she even hid it behind the sofa and still allowed him into her apartment where her and her sisters children lived...she put everyone in harms way. Im so glad lisa survived and the boys were unharmed.
As I listened to the show, and wondered, how can a loving daughter with a lovely father/family make some odd choice to bring into her family, violence to the point of jeopardizing her sister's life too? She left that monster of a woman battered to re-invite him in their home, till he killed her, and almost took the life of her sister. Beasts as such are losers, full of envy, and have nothing to lose, therefore losing their prey, is a callous audacity towards them, therefore taking one's life is a triumph for him.
@@jessicadavis3989 Well it's her fault too. You can deny it. But it's more than time we take our responsibility when we fail ourselves. She walked away, and everyone took that deep sigh of relief, thinking okay, it's all over, yet she brought him into their homes( it was supposed to be a home out of violence) hope you're not blaming the sister, who decided to help out, by taking a house with her, and bulged also a bullet in the head, traumatizing also her children plus her nieces/nephews. What's wrong with you. She is the very one to be blamed! Period. Woman battered syndrome. That's a farce, sugared coated by some idiots defined as experts.
Because you see just a part of the family, you don't know about the family dinamics, how they raise her, etc. Sometimes parents abuse children voluntary or unvoluntary, may be they treated her poorly or may be they overly protected her to the point she could never built a real notion of herself. People who usually are "too good" often live their lifes for the good of others and never take on account their own needs and desires. Once I red a post of a girl for her dead sister who I happened to know: "you came to this world to make ME happy" and I instantly felt mad at it. Did that girl fulfill her wishes or all her life was put on serving the needs of others?
@@list283 Nevertheless, due to her probably misfortune from family, she chose that man, that wasn't the most lovely being , yet she walked away, went back and probably bad family, decided to helped her, and children, and in return what did she do, invited the monster in her/their home. Dear! Loads of us didn't come from functional family, but after realizing what toxications smell of, I would die along, than being in the wrong relationship. It's called, self esteem.
I feel so bad for this father, when you have a child you try to have them see the right way or the correct thing to do. And unfortunately they don’t always listen. A life was lost, what a shame.
"it took the police 21 minutes to get there all because lisa mistakenly said there wasn't a gun" or maybe they didn't take it seriously. why are you blaming lisa??
I don't have enough love for anyone that I will let them continuously allow them to beat me! I don't understand these women who stay in these relationships. And the police knew he was a convicted felon with a gun and wasn't arrested?
If you are in a DV relationship, please look up Stockholm Syndrome, Trauma Bonds, and Psychological abuse. I never knew there were words that described what I went through. Denial is a strong emotion, and I never wanted to believe another Human could hurt another human....They said they Loved! It took 3 things to give me the strength to file for divorce in September 2021. 1. My older Son telling me not to stay in the abusive relationship just because I didn't want my younger Son to have divorced parents. 2. My doctor told me that if I went back, my ex would end up killing me. 3. Gabby Petito. Psychological abuse takes longer to heal from than broken bones or bruises. Stay strong and think of your kids' safety. It only gets worse if you stay. Don't fear anybody! That's how they keep you in a vicious cycle. Prayers to everyone 🙏 ❤️.
Typical narcissist. Saying nobody will love her except me bla bla bla. I’ve heard all this before. I lived it and lucky to still be alive 🙏🏻 And those cops have blood on their hands
As women haven't we all went all went back weather it was when we younger or whatever no matter what anyone told us cause we thought we were in love or cause we thought that person would change I'd be a Hypocrite if I sat here and said I never made that mistake but today I'm grown woman and yes back when I younger I also made that mistake and wasn't the best Decision and I've learned but only we as women can can walk away live and learn under her circumstances she was unfortunate and her poor sister paid for it too thankfully she Survived but we all make those mistakes cause as women all we want is love and then if we Survive we then have trust issues so I can't agree with you cause I have went back but it wasn't the like I best Decision I made but lessons learn and now I know and life taught alot and of course I'm grown woman now with kid's of own!!
Manipulation, fear, love, believing his lies, gaslighting, guilty conscience, low self esteem, wanting to keep the peace, all kinds of threats, harassment, love-bombing, promises to change, savior-complex, feeling needed and wanted, denial, emotionally drained, too scared to say no/leave, broken down and not having the strength to leave once and for all, afraid of repercussions etc etc. I suggest you read about all the tactics that the abuser use to get his way and how he manipulates his victims, it is terrifying.
I was already in the process of writing this and then Chris Hansen said it.. but she is so matter of fact in stating how she killed her own child. It's insane.
I never met Ashlee but was great friends with Lisa. We worked together for a few years. I remember when this happened. It was shocking. Really sad. My heart goes out to the kids.
My sister had guy like that in out prison kept harassing her yrs ago,she didn't call police she called me,I drove from Ohio to Tennessee,and he isn't touching my sister anymore.i didn't used to be nice guy when younger but I never touched women or children.
Sadly I have to agree. Terrible tragedy, but if she is a grown adult women and if Ashley wouldn’t press charges, she certainly wouldn’t testify either against him either. At the end of the day, DV victims have to break their own cycle and save themselves. It’s not a guarantee, but there is no other way around it. You have to want to save yourself.
This didn’t happen bc a woman was unable to control a man’s choice to brainwash and to assault her. This happened bc a man chose violence and control. Period. Enough victim blaming. Seriously.
@@wyzasukitanOr the abuser could just stop abusing so that the victims/survivors wouldn’t have to “break ‘their own’ cycle and save themselves”. Abuse isn’t just physical, it’s not like he just suddenly slaps her out of nowhere one day and she can just walk away and cut off all contact after that and forget all about him, it doesn’t work like that.
Would you often see in the courts during custody hearings is children not being believed protective parents not being believed to the point where there’s so much evidence of one parent being abusive and then it’s all swept away
I live in Jacksonville Florida and it's a joke here! They will go out their way to mess with you when you are innocent and when you are a danger to others they don't want to mess with you!
A felon, who is beating his girlfriend regularly and terribly, is carrying weapons and threatening to use them and the police's response is to say "it’s a probation issue?" Unbelievable. They should be sued for their complete failure and incompetence!!
Chad's father saying that he believes he is innocent and that he was just defending himself from the girls attacking him... Really??? If they were attacking him then how did he shoot them both from behind? Attacking someone with your back facing them sure seems difficult and not very practical. Also, you know his dad knows how violent he is. His dad is probably a woman beater too
May all these beautiful souls rest in heaven. I couldn't get myself to watch the whole video. But i wish the best of the best for their loved ones who are grieving, may they heal with love and strength. I wish them all the power to fight this injustice. No human deserves what these heavenly angels went through. Rest easy angels, the world was too cruel for you.
I was friends with ash. I actually remember the disgusting post on Facebook. I actually can't believe what happened..she was sweet and had a good sense of humor . She was a great mom too. I hope Chad rots in prison.
Absolutely disgusting the man was so brazing to show off his violence of his girlfriendz. What a horrible individuals! RIP Ashley her poor dad These poor women need to be looked after by law officials and ANKLE MONITORS MADE THE LAW. These lunatics won’t be prevented from harming by a measly piece of paper ie. Restraining orders, it’s 2024 and the law still isn’t on the side of the victims.. makes u wonder
How much do you wanna bet that putting Chad in a line up. Something like 8/10 women would say he is hot and date him without knowing anything else about him. I dunno why women can be so shallow when it comes to thugs who just look handsome. People can make up stories about how these a-holes hide it when first dating but guarenteed this guy is a douche 100% of the time to others and yet women are drawn to him
At what point does the state step in and file their own charges, regardless of if the victim will testify or not? If police see evidence of domestic, that should be all they need. It was incredibly dangerous and naive for Ashley to invite him back over, yet alone the first time, putting their children in danger as well.
These 'victims' need to 'know' that when 911 operator asks, 'Are there any weapons?' the answer is always 'YES', the weapon is 'the hands'! People need to know that the 'HANDS ' are WEAPONS!!!
the first story is bad , but ashley was a adult … the little chinese girl that died at the hands of her parents…. HORRIFIC!! and to know that the mom only got 20 yrs and the dad 12… makes me want to take justice into my own hands. and to top it off… the mom will stay in US prison for 20 yrs.. on taxpayer money.. then be deported back to china??? like wtf.
This is so tragic, and sickening! That anyone wld feel entitled to take a life? If it weren't for his advantage of strength? He is a coward picking on pp who were not his size, but small & innocent? Otherwise it may had went the other way?
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it doesnt get better...it only gets worse!!!! Never stay in an abusive relationship!
Two victims a week are killed by a former or current partner it’s beyond tragic Xx
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Not true people can change my boyfriends dad did but he’s not with his mother anymore. They both have a good friendship and have moved on from the past.
@@katemissfilanpurrmcdevitt two victims a week are killed in the United States or globally? What else defines the murders?
Yep.
Chad’s father is a FAILURE. He thinks his son is innocent??
Usual suspects
He makes his son look like a weak man.
Apple doesn’t fall far from the tree. I wonder what daddy’s background is. 🤔
His uglass should be looking in the mirror and see what made HIS son become this way...just sick and sad....
@@treallocdin add to that, you need to pick up a dictionary and learn HOW to spell UGLY ASS, they are 2 words, not uglass. You people need to do better with education.
Chad's daddy taught his son to treat women as things!
and her crappy dad didnt show her how a woman should be treated,,
@@JohnDoe-cv8iwJesus shut the fuck up!! Take that shit somewhere else!
Yeap, a male chauvinist
Well.... the only WANT other peoples things.... hand bags, make up, shoes, free holidays, brands, etc..... soooo....
fuck youtube's censorship
As a father, if I hear my kid being abused or even a hair touched, that dude is a goner
As a mother I feel the same. I'd do time to protect my children
Definitely understand, as a parent myself now…but our kids gonna do whatever even if we try to stop it. I’ve witness my sister not speak with our dad took it far to threat to kill our dad only cause my dad was trying to protect her. It only stopped when we found out my abusive ex brother in law r**** my sister daughter and got her pregnant. It took 10 years for my sister to get away from him 😔 smh. Now all of a sudden she asks my dad for forgiveness, my dad loves his daughter but also upset cause now she is a grandma to her grandson who is also belongs to her ex.
Unfortunately i have seen daughter's and sons turn on their parents and family when they have tried to intervene in tgeir abusive relationship. It usually results in them upping sticks and disappearing with the partner. Its like stepping in when u see a fuy beating on his girl in the street...9/ 10 tgey both turn in you... abusive relationships suck for everyone.
And remember if u end up in jail saving her from this one you won't be there to protect her next time.
your daughter would stop talking to you and testify against you then go pamper the dirt bag in the hospital if you beat him up
Ditto. Not only would i deal with my child. I would advise any woman not to date him. To post that on fb & not be arrested is wild.
He's calling his child an "it" so that he doesn't have feelings towards what he did to their own daughter!! "Burn it, bury it or throw it in the ocean" thats just very disturbing
Since there was a cut in the footage right before Liang says "Burn it, etc." I thought maybe the interrogator had rephrased the question as "What did you plan to do with the body?" and maybe they edited out that rephrased question for dramatic purposes. But I found the full uncut interrogation on TH-cam, and that part of the interview is actually exactly as they showed it in this video. Strangely, that appears to be the only time that Liang refers to Ashley as "it" in the interview. Everywhere else he says "she", "her", and "Ashley". I wonder if saying "it" was a way for Liang to emotionally dissociate from the grisly thought of having to dispose of his daughter's corpse.
Yes, I picked up on that too. Even from the time he was reporting her missing, he was fishy with his call to cops. If a child that old had a diaper, possibly she was having longer term issues with the parents and had pyschological issues. It's not usual for a child without disabilities to wear diapers until they are this old. Such cruel behaviour of an innocent child, who dies at the hands of someone who should love them.
Ok so the police warned Ashley that she was gonna die YET they didn't arrest him for having a weapon as a felon. Police officers arrest felons for this all the time. The cops failed in this situation. Big time.
When don't members of the Sh*thead squadron suck so hard at there jobs I've seen them arrest those who have guns as a violation of there probation
Cos he’s a white male. Police won’t arrest him 😂
even if the cops took him in the courts would just let him out on bail
They are TIRED of it; She would just get back with him regardless of what he did to her, and everyone knew it. She got off on the abuse as much as he did making up after...She would push his buttons, he would tool her up, then it was back to exctasy for the next month or two; Most likely corresponding with her fertility cycles...Both of them were oxytocin addicts.
B/c she was constantly taking him back, dropping the charge, the cops can only do so much.
Chad is a super coward. He will never be willing to fight a man his size or bigger lest he get smacked around so he has to attack weak women.
Pardon me sir, but this woman survived a literal gunshot to the back of her head, and even was able to verbally reassure her young child while going into shock- I don’t know what weak is, but it ain’t that!
@@sarahissersohn5495: I'm talking about him being abusive physically with women he knows can't physically match him for physical strength.
Usual suspects.
@@sarahissersohn5495 What are you talking about? Did you even bother to read the comment?
@@sarahissersohn5495read carefully
Trying to leave an abuser is the most DANGEROUS time of all. It’s also the reason that the law in South Carolina doesn’t require the victim to cooperate. He should have been arrested idc if she wanted to or not.
Nobody cares, honestly. No one. I left an abusive relationship 7 years ago.
@@survivor_speaks and just like you said nobody cares 😂
@@Stepharoni_and_Clean glad you think that is hilarious 😂
Yes once again police don't take violence against women seriously and another woman is dead. I was reminded of Lauren McCluskey recently. There are so many cases like this. How long will it take before it's taken seriously?
Exactly!!! So when you get the chance to walk away, with the children, why invite him into your home again? Why? Forgiveness doesn't mean sleeping with the beast!? A glass of wine, can be shared in a restaurant, bar, pub and so fort, don't bring your basher to the house! Then we blamed authority, yet she wasn't listening to her parents, she didn't listen to the advice of the force authority, and deliberately invited him inside their home to drink/ sleep over. No that's not acceptable.
I went through this with an ex. He finally left me alone when he started doing drugs. They dont stop until they find a new interest.
Usual suspects.
@@OsceolaNola7 I don't get it
As a father who has a daughter this would have never happened. I would do life in prison first before he takes my daughter 🤦♂️
I just said that too...why did the dad allow him to carry on? Prison is better than the death of a child.
You're only hearing one side of this story
@@SaydeeEnward4500 which other side do you want to hear ¿¿the dead person's side ????
I hear so many people say this, yet how many casss have you heard of where parents actually do this? It’s easy to say it when you’re not in the situation. I know we believe we are capable, but in the end I think it’s ingrained in us that we can’t take justice into our own hands. There is a morality switch in us (in decent people, not the POS that do horrible things) that is hard to just switch off. I’d like to think I’d take matters into my own hand, but I don’t think anyone can say for sure until they’re facing this.
There are so many women who’ve said “I’d never be in an abusive relationship”, then suddenly they’re in one and so lost on how they ever got into it when they knew better.
This man lives with enough regret. He doesn’t need people that have never been in this situation criticizing & placing blame.
Trust me when I say Yes I am capable..Im a mother I know what I would do for my child.
@@Luisa-H208
*Soooo he had to "defend himself" by shooting both girls in the BACK of the head. At least one of the from 8-10 feet away... And his Dad believes this?*
After the police see evidence of serious abuse and violence, they just put their notebooks in their pockets, turned around, and walked off? SMH This is why folks take things in their own hands. My sister had a boyfriend who broke her arm. Her son found out and found the guy at the park. He beat him down seriously and broke the guy's arm. Let him know that every time he saw him, he was going to kick his ass. We never saw Willie in the neighborhood again. He got going and stayed away.
Genuine love from her family is so important.
She was being groomed by a psychopath and she had no idea.
It is so hard to get away from them.
Lessons Learned: 1. NEVER let an abuser off the hook by not pressing charges (thinking things will get better) LEAVE and stay left. 2. NEVER bring the abuser into other peoples' homes or lives
Yes, AND we can all help by resisting society’s maniacal emphasis on the value of being in a relationship at all costs. Let’s normalize not needing a partner bc you really don’t. If you’ve got kids, while undeniably challenging, Single parenting is so much better than being abused, and imprinting that onto your kids. Let’s normalize insisting that a potential partner meet a higher bar- they better be more enjoyable than ones precious solitude. Impress us.
3. Learn more about how abusers work and how dv actually works before you tell victims/survivors what to/not to do.
4. Put all the blame and responsibility where it belongs - the abuser.
5. Stop victimblaiming.
6. Stop abusing people, go to therapy and deal with your anger, grow up and take responsibility over your own actions like an adult.
Abusers are extremely manipulative and it’s not as easy as it seems to “just up and leave”, the tactics they use to make sure you stay with them are incredibly disturbing and terrifying, sometimes the victim/survivor stay because it feels safer knowing where the abuser is and how he moves, rather than cutting off all contact and constantly worrying about when he’s going to find you and strike.
Please learn more about this topic, it really isn’t as simple as you seem to think it is.
@@Sanber21as a 7 year survivor of DV…💯💯💯
@@survivor_speaks I’m so sorry someone put you through that!
I hope you are in a better place today and that you are able to heal in some way ❤️
@@Sanber21 Victim blaming? Not sure what you're referring to (my comment?). Anyway, my learning about this subject comes from my own experience in several abusive relationships and counselling. I've left several relationships before it got worse(which guaranteed it will).... thereby taking responsibility for myself and my child. A victim is not to be blamed, but it's still their responsibility to leave. It's hard to "up and leave" sometimes but in most cases it's not that hard. "But I love him/her" is no reason to stay. You can love from afar but suggest to keep that love for yourself. Yes, to be safe: "knowing where the abuser is and how he moves". Certainly good to know the habits and make a safe exit. I made sure to move out of the area he inhabited. But maintaining contact is tricky (dangerous) bc by maintaining contact, it's a double-message to the abuser: "It's all ok now" "they still love me" "I can persuade/manipulate them back".
Also, you'd be amazed at the little tidbits of information they can gather from you while you're speaking.
I learned the old adage is true: "Love is as perennial as the grass". I also learned to claim my part in the cycle of abuse. There are ways to de-escalate a tense situation and that takes education. A psychological dynamic often at play is narcissism. (research on UTube) there's tons of counsellors who can help.
This father in the first story I feel his pain. What a horrible crime how tragically sad 😔
This POS has multiple domestic violence incidents including posting what he’s done on his own Facebook yet his Dad believes he was provoked?! Wow. RIP to Ashlee and I’m praying for her sister, their kids, and family.
Most people who turn out to be monsters are enabled by their parents who make excuses for their antisocial behaviors while growing up. The dad is probably doing what he has always done i.e. excusing his son's violence by claiming he was provoked or was attacked first and only defended himself.
@@polycarp9897 You nailed it there somehow is always enablers behind these horrid monsters taking up for them like deranged fools.
His dad would be a woman hater too.
I'm sure she cheated on him. Most hot chicks cheat like crazy. If you date a violent thug and cheat on him what do you expect?
This is why many states now have laws not allowing police to ignore dv situations and allowing them to arrest and prosecute despite cooperation from abused person.
I can see giving people a pass one time if the victim doesn’t cooperate. But if it happens a second time, or a perpetrator already has a conviction there should be mandatory arrest every time.
Chad’s father… complete failure as a parent.
Usual suspects
Aahhh the big boys will be loving Chad in jail , 😅😅😅😅
Once again, I have to say it: not every person is meant to be a parent.
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I learned early on. I never had kids! 💯 agree with you!
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Yep
Great reason to advocate for better birth control options to be available in the US- maybe even any that don’t have punitive side effects (google the Gynefix Mini if you’re curious what excellent methods and devices are available pretty much everywhere but here - I flew to Canada to get mine implanted almost 10yrs ago, and it has literally changed my life more than I could have imagined, just to not have that fear of accidental pregnancy lurking in the background of my landscape of shifting anxieties)
The law should be able to press charges whether the victim says so or not
Exactly
The police should be able to make a report of assault if the woman abused doesn't, and arrest these men of violence towards their partners
If she wont press charges.....
That’s the way it is in Canada.
Aggressive women shouldn't be treated differently either.
Its that way in Oregon, thank the gods. This change in the law has saved hundreds of lives.
Some states the prosecutor will pick the case of depending on how bad whether you want to press charges or not
When is the law going to toughen up on domestic abusers? Clearly, the psychological dynamics are such that victims cannot be left to navigate this minefield alone. It’s not good enough to just wipe their hands and say, "Well, she didn’t want to press charges." That is straight up neglect of a vulnerable person, and it's despicable. They frequently remove children from abusive homes, why can't they remove the abuser as a duty of care?
When?? Maybe when women get as many rights as men in this backwards country. There is still so much to change.
That’s exactly why my abuser was able to beat my child out of me! I was too scared to press charges even when his granny called the law on him. Also I was a minor and he was 10 yrs my senior. Still the law did nothing, they never even questioned my age!!
Excellent point. Clearly the law isn’t on the side of victims!
This gonna sound horrible but women as beautiful as Ashley have choices. They like them guys with an edge, that swag, the take control sort, which isn't too much to ask but about 65% of those guys are toxic sociopaths by nature.
I get so sick of the EXCUSE she won’t press charges! Women don’t press charges… that’s the police’s job. Press them despite what she says. If you have evidence then charge him and take the crap to court
Yeah. I thought it was up to the officers judgment and call whether someone gets cuffed and stuffed
How many females who press charges and when the police try to actually arrest him, she's screaming in the background "What are you doing ? Leave him alone ! Don't hurt him !" ?? 🧐
If women insist not to Police are usually unable to press charges.
@@tantalize811might be scared to death that he's going to retaliate once he's bonded out
He can beat a woman but he's a coward when it comes fighting a man. It's a shame that women go back to that abuse. My mother did the same until she was shot in the head but thank God she survived.
People don't leave a abusive relationship for many reason. The abuser will threaten the victims if they tell, or worst threaten to kill family members, children, or pets. The fact that this guy posted his beatings of his victim is very sick. I feel so bad that , like many victims of DV, she had to endure this violence for so long. RIP.
They do that to try and frighten the victim but people should get out as soon as possible!! Anyone who abused their partner ISN'T a real man or woman 😢 It's disgusting that this does happen in the real world.
It's amazing she is still alive to tell this story. Pure evil.
Watching these types of videos could almost be considered self-abuse, it's so maddening and disheartening to hear these stories :/
That's a point to be considered. There comes a point when it becomes self-abuse I think.
There’s no way my daughter is coming to me telling me that her boyfriend is abusing her 30 times.
He Gotta Go… Gotta Go!
Lisa’s friend Lyle isn’t much of a friend by leaving 2 women alone with a guy that just finished choking one.
5 yr old wearing a diaper. Never heard of it only with a disability
We’re they just so lazy they didn’t toilet train her. Poor kid
I thought the same thing. It makes me think mag d she had a disability which could’ve added to the stress of her behavior. Not an excuse for the parents but could explain what was going on with the little girl.
@@courtneyhunter6307ming ming haha
Abuse (even verbal) can cause kids to start bedwetting or have accidents, the stress reverses the years of potty training. It's a documented symptom of abuse and the effect it has on children.
@@OriginalGlorfindelming ming lin chin is going back to china.
This is so sick why people do things like this
*Because they're sick, You just answered your own question 🤦🏿♂️😆*
Because they don't face consequences for their actions. So they escalate. Chad brutalized his girlfriend numerous times and even posted the evidence of Facebook. He wasn't arrested and she kept going back to him.
What incentive was there for him to stop?
@@polycarp9897and she was dumb for goin back to him. And the sister was dumb for lettin him into her house.
Coercive control. These guys threaten the women and they know the police will do nothing, that's why they go back. To stay safe.
@@pep-d7dyeah. Blame the victim.
I have no sympathy for women like this that keep on going back to someone that beats the fk out of them.. her Dad tried NUMEROUS times to talk reason into her..
Im 60 yrs old and NEVER once raised my hand in violence towards a female.. NEVER!!..
Spent 19 yrs with a very mean woman.. She LOVED to "fight".. by fight I mean She LOVED to just argue.. or meaningless crap too!!.. She would slap, punch, etc. Me .. what made her the most angry was that i REFUSED to engage with her.. i would not say one word.. just look at her like she was nuts.. which she was.. she was EXTREMELY Bi-polar..
I finally walked away & divorced her.. She went ballistic!!.. evrn in the Courtroom in front of the Judge.. Judge put her on jail for 3 days for her behavior in Court (Contempt of Court)
Took me 8 months to get Divorced.. our 13 yr old son told Judge he wished to live with his Dad.. Judge granted it.. she was ordered to pay me child support.. she wouldn't pay a dime & i didnt even bother to take her to court (she worked in a Drs office for 18k a yr.. i had a Union job at 150k a yr.. i didnt need her money)..
These women that just keep going back to brutal abuse .. KNOWING the abuser will never change.. NO, i have no sympathy for them
10 years??? For hiring a tman to kill your wife, who was given instructions that the daughter could be collateral damage? Insane.
“Lyes thinking the fight was over, step outside” bro WHAT?!?! Where was he when the shots were ringing off & HIS GIRL WAS BLEEDING OUT?!?! A city full of WEAK men.
People who commit DV/IPV are just bullies with brainwashed victims. Brainwashed into thinking that they (the bully) care or even love them. That's how my psychologist tried to explain it to me. Watching TC YT, I can see it's true. But when I lived it, I truly couldn't see it. And I tried very hard to see it. So if you know someone in Ashley's situation, don't get angry at them when they don't or can't see what you see, but don't stop trying to help them see it. They will, just needs time, it can't happen overnight (sadly)
Brainwashed? Please look up domestic violence.
It's insane to me that ahslee KNEW Chad had a weapon,she even hid it behind the sofa and still allowed him into her apartment where her and her sisters children lived...she put everyone in harms way. Im so glad lisa survived and the boys were unharmed.
Dude was in prison for 3 years an she took him back
Chad being a chad
That woman talking about the worst part being that she wouldn't be able to help her daughter just broke my heart.
As I listened to the show, and wondered, how can a loving daughter with a lovely father/family make some odd choice to bring into her family, violence to the point of jeopardizing her sister's life too? She left that monster of a woman battered to re-invite him in their home, till he killed her, and almost took the life of her sister. Beasts as such are losers, full of envy, and have nothing to lose, therefore losing their prey, is a callous audacity towards them, therefore taking one's life is a triumph for him.
Are you seriously blaming her 😮
Why do men do this not why does “she” do it to herself 🙄
@@jessicadavis3989 Well it's her fault too. You can deny it. But it's more than time we take our responsibility when we fail ourselves. She walked away, and everyone took that deep sigh of relief, thinking okay, it's all over, yet she brought him into their homes( it was supposed to be a home out of violence) hope you're not blaming the sister, who decided to help out, by taking a house with her, and bulged also a bullet in the head, traumatizing also her children plus her nieces/nephews. What's wrong with you. She is the very one to be blamed! Period. Woman battered syndrome. That's a farce, sugared coated by some idiots defined as experts.
Because you see just a part of the family, you don't know about the family dinamics, how they raise her, etc. Sometimes parents abuse children voluntary or unvoluntary, may be they treated her poorly or may be they overly protected her to the point she could never built a real notion of herself. People who usually are "too good" often live their lifes for the good of others and never take on account their own needs and desires.
Once I red a post of a girl for her dead sister who I happened to know: "you came to this world to make ME happy" and I instantly felt mad at it. Did that girl fulfill her wishes or all her life was put on serving the needs of others?
@@list283 Nevertheless, due to her probably misfortune from family, she chose that man, that wasn't the most lovely being , yet she walked away, went back and probably bad family, decided to helped her, and children, and in return what did she do, invited the monster in her/their home. Dear! Loads of us didn't come from functional family, but after realizing what toxications smell of, I would die along, than being in the wrong relationship. It's called, self esteem.
You only have 2 hands, then, "why bring another child into this world?"
Sick mother. RIP daughter 😢
Chad needs some good ole street justice
I feel so bad for this father, when you have a child you try to have them see the right way or the correct thing to do. And unfortunately they don’t always listen. A life was lost, what a shame.
"it took the police 21 minutes to get there all because lisa mistakenly said there wasn't a gun" or maybe they didn't take it seriously. why are you blaming lisa??
They are doing some major victim blaming and not talking about the fact that this is all to common w men and they need to ask why men keep doing this
I don't have enough love for anyone that I will let them continuously allow them to beat me! I don't understand these women who stay in these relationships. And the police knew he was a convicted felon with a gun and wasn't arrested?
He’s a COWARD and a MONSTER… you LIVE WELL… that’s THE BEST way to get yours back love… you are an inspiration!
Wait…. 5 yr old in diapers? Was there internal damage from previous beatings causing her to be incontinent?
Possibly, but 5 is a common age to still be in diapers for children with special needs.
In a way, that makes this worse
I'm from the area where these parents murdered their little girl, it was an insane case then & still gives me the chills.
I’m sorry but I have 4 daughters I’m not letting no man treat my girls like that it’s not right but I’m catching a body
If you are in a DV relationship, please look up Stockholm Syndrome, Trauma Bonds, and Psychological abuse.
I never knew there were words that described what I went through. Denial is a strong emotion, and I never wanted to believe another Human could hurt another human....They said they Loved!
It took 3 things to give me the strength to file for divorce in September 2021. 1. My older Son telling me not to stay in the abusive relationship just because I didn't want my younger Son to have divorced parents. 2. My doctor told me that if I went back, my ex would end up killing me. 3. Gabby Petito.
Psychological abuse takes longer to heal from than broken bones or bruises.
Stay strong and think of your kids' safety. It only gets worse if you stay. Don't fear anybody! That's how they keep you in a vicious cycle. Prayers to everyone 🙏 ❤️.
Typical narcissist. Saying nobody will love her except me bla bla bla. I’ve heard all this before. I lived it and lucky to still be alive 🙏🏻
And those cops have blood on their hands
She was so beautiful, yet he made her believe less of herself?
i cant fathom what was going on in that girls head to keep going back to that lunatic. you cant tell me he isnt possessed by biblical satan
As women haven't we all went all went back weather it was when we younger or whatever no matter what anyone told us cause we thought we were in love or cause we thought that person would change I'd be a Hypocrite if I sat here and said I never made that mistake but today I'm grown woman and yes back when I younger I also made that mistake and wasn't the best Decision and I've learned but only we as women can can walk away live and learn under her circumstances she was unfortunate and her poor sister paid for it too thankfully she Survived but we all make those mistakes cause as women all we want is love and then if we Survive we then have trust issues so I can't agree with you cause I have went back but it wasn't the like I best Decision I made but lessons learn and now I know and life taught alot and of course I'm grown woman now with kid's of own!!
Manipulation, fear, love, believing his lies, gaslighting, guilty conscience, low self esteem, wanting to keep the peace, all kinds of threats, harassment, love-bombing, promises to change, savior-complex, feeling needed and wanted, denial, emotionally drained, too scared to say no/leave, broken down and not having the strength to leave once and for all, afraid of repercussions etc etc.
I suggest you read about all the tactics that the abuser use to get his way and how he manipulates his victims, it is terrifying.
No wonder Chad is such a looser, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
Hd cuts grass for a living. What is he 12. Total loser
The sisters case. This would have been a “Wait In The Truck” moment for me as the father.
I was already in the process of writing this and then Chris Hansen said it.. but she is so matter of fact in stating how she killed her own child. It's insane.
Yeah, Chad's dad is a moron if he thinks his son is innocent.
Ashley’s story is yet another case for the reason that victims shouldn’t be in charge of pressing charges. The STATES need to .
I never met Ashlee but was great friends with Lisa. We worked together for a few years. I remember when this happened. It was shocking. Really sad. My heart goes out to the kids.
The father had no love for her daughter. He referred to her as "it"
Only 12 and 22 years for murdering a child???
His father is SOMETHING ELSE!! He was defending himself?!?! By shooting 2 women in the BACK of their head!! SMDH!!
My sister had guy like that in out prison kept harassing her yrs ago,she didn't call police she called me,I drove from Ohio to Tennessee,and he isn't touching my sister anymore.i didn't used to be nice guy when younger but I never touched women or children.
Some people have to learn the hard way
@@RockCity1111 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
I just got out of prison I'm a keeper
welcome back...
Ashlee’s eye were wide shut! What can one do? She refused to press charges, and that in it self empowered Chad more! It’s a viscous cycle!
Sadly I have to agree. Terrible tragedy, but if she is a grown adult women and if Ashley wouldn’t press charges, she certainly wouldn’t testify either against him either. At the end of the day, DV victims have to break their own cycle and save themselves.
It’s not a guarantee, but there is no other way around it. You have to want to save yourself.
@@wyzasukitan 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
This didn’t happen bc a woman was unable to control a man’s choice to brainwash and to assault her. This happened bc a man chose violence and control. Period. Enough victim blaming. Seriously.
@@wyzasukitanOr the abuser could just stop abusing so that the victims/survivors wouldn’t have to “break ‘their own’ cycle and save themselves”.
Abuse isn’t just physical, it’s not like he just suddenly slaps her out of nowhere one day and she can just walk away and cut off all contact after that and forget all about him, it doesn’t work like that.
Yet another stupid comment from someone who doesn’t fully understand domestic violence 💩
These couple that killed their child is so terrible.
Would you often see in the courts during custody hearings is children not being believed protective parents not being believed to the point where there’s so much evidence of one parent being abusive and then it’s all swept away
I can't believe they went to work like nothing happened!
I live in Jacksonville Florida and it's a joke here! They will go out their way to mess with you when you are innocent and when you are a danger to others they don't want to mess with you!
This girls family let her down, if I see pictures of my bloody niece, that guy would never be seen again
How is Ming a mother?
Hello, I always feel intrigued by your
amazing crime investigation series. 👍
Ashlee’s father will always believe he failed his daughter. Poor guy
His name is Chad? I rest my case.
Thanks Mr Wilkinson for having a heart and telling the truth. You have saved your soul and the souls of that mother and daughters 👏🏻👏🏻
I think both people should be arrested for domestic violence
A felon, who is beating his girlfriend regularly and terribly, is carrying weapons and threatening to use them and the police's response is to say "it’s a probation issue?" Unbelievable. They should be sued for their complete failure and incompetence!!
How can the police not arrest this man ? Absolute joke
Chad's father saying that he believes he is innocent and that he was just defending himself from the girls attacking him... Really??? If they were attacking him then how did he shoot them both from behind? Attacking someone with your back facing them sure seems difficult and not very practical. Also, you know his dad knows how violent he is. His dad is probably a woman beater too
I find the FBI agent smiling throughout the interview entirely inappropriate.
Those “parents” are psychopaths.
May all these beautiful souls rest in heaven. I couldn't get myself to watch the whole video. But i wish the best of the best for their loved ones who are grieving, may they heal with love and strength. I wish them all the power to fight this injustice. No human deserves what these heavenly angels went through. Rest easy angels, the world was too cruel for you.
Men like this who abuse women so openly believe they are above the law! - [A Deranged Sense of Power and Entitlement]
What a good man this rescuer is, I know there are good men out there, they are just so hard to find, you usually just run in to the really awful ones.
She declined every time to press charges…..what u think would happen!!!
I was friends with ash. I actually remember the disgusting post on Facebook. I actually can't believe what happened..she was sweet and had a good sense of humor . She was a great mom too. I hope Chad rots in prison.
Absolutely disgusting the man was so brazing to show off his violence of his girlfriendz. What a horrible individuals! RIP Ashley her poor dad
These poor women need to be looked after by law officials and ANKLE MONITORS MADE THE LAW. These lunatics won’t be prevented from harming by a measly piece of paper ie. Restraining orders, it’s 2024 and the law still isn’t on the side of the victims.. makes u wonder
Chad and his father are cowards cause they both beat women. Chad only displayed what his father taught him to do. Like father like son.
It's really ashame how some men pick on those they know can't beat them???
How much do you wanna bet that putting Chad in a line up. Something like 8/10 women would say he is hot and date him without knowing anything else about him.
I dunno why women can be so shallow when it comes to thugs who just look handsome.
People can make up stories about how these a-holes hide it when first dating but guarenteed this guy is a douche 100% of the time to others and yet women are drawn to him
Your son is an abusive person and killer. How can someone defend that?
Because by admitting they raised a loser would be admitting to being a terrible parent. 😌
That second story is horrific !! Omg so so awful. Poor baby my lord
At what point does the state step in and file their own charges, regardless of if the victim will testify or not? If police see evidence of domestic, that should be all they need. It was incredibly dangerous and naive for Ashley to invite him back over, yet alone the first time, putting their children in danger as well.
These 'victims' need to 'know' that when 911 operator asks, 'Are there any weapons?' the answer is always 'YES', the weapon is 'the hands'! People need to know that the 'HANDS ' are WEAPONS!!!
the first story is bad , but ashley was a adult … the little chinese girl that died at the hands of her parents…. HORRIFIC!!
and to know that the mom only got 20 yrs and the dad 12… makes me want to take justice into my own hands.
and to top it off… the mom will stay in US prison for 20 yrs.. on taxpayer money.. then be deported back to china??? like wtf.
All these years later and Jeff Sokol’s pizza still looks amazing….
Why is a five year old in a diaper?
Really light sentences here. Cant believe this crap.
That’s sad when he says I knew it was going to happen I just didn’t know when 😩😩
wow , these Chinese parents are something else 😮
This is so tragic, and sickening! That anyone wld feel entitled to take a life? If it weren't for his advantage of strength? He is a coward picking on pp who were not his size, but small & innocent? Otherwise it may had went the other way?
She was as sick as he was,i don't care what the excuse was, saying she loved him she had a sick definition of love.
Why are these guys always so spicy.
He said" and that was not her only talents "😂
She looks plain evil.He looks as though he doesn’t know what all the fuss is about.And their sentences were a gross insult to justice.
Omg how can you kill people that YOUR kids love right in front of them??!!!! That breaks my heart 💔 😢