Raymond Washington Conflict with BGF in Tracy Prison
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In February 1974, upon his arrival at DVI Prison in Tracy, CA, Claudy Clay, a member of the East Side Bishops, faced inquiries about his acquaintance Raymond Washington and the ensuing clash with the Black Guerilla Family. Born in Los Angeles in 1955, Claudy Clay was raised on the east side of South Los Angeles. He attended Russel Elementary and Drew Jr High School before leaving Jefferson High School. His path ultimately led him to the California Department of Corrections in 1973. It was in 1974 that he was incarcerated at Tracy Prison, where he found himself reunited with his childhood friend, Raymond Washington.
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Claudy mentioned an alleged BGF member, named Shujaa. Who back in 1973 was accused of killing a CO. He was put on Death row, but eventually got off, and is free.
This is the same Shujaa that Big Reebo, said he fired on in his interview and got cut up for it.
Kevmac interviews always have a connection. This is what makes his interviews unique.
Is Sujah still alive ? In prison ? Or free in society ?
@@jockobotzi go reread what this person said… then reread it again and again and again……….. then you’ll have the answer to your question
@@babyigotchomoney LoL Understood
Trill Spill! Them full circles! Just got to keep all the episodes, or the 1's you remember of the KMV history video book in play!
@@babyigotchomoney 🤣
This is absolutely mind blowing. You had an original Blood standing up for Raymond Washington, who was having issues with Musilms and BGF. This is just unparalleled information. Kev Mac is absolutely filling gaps AND putting pieces together. Absolutely amazing! Respect to the interview and Kev Mac.
he technically is a Bishop
Yup clardy clay (claudy? jimmy lavender could enlighten us how the name is spelled) claimed he never turmed blood in the mid 70s
@@jamelcrawford2815 That's right! Good point!
Bird, Munson, Jimmy, cutes and claudy clay cover alot of serious east side history
Kev Mizac does it again like no other. Filling gaps and cementing previous interviews on this history.
Man Raymond being the founder and being one of the 1st to go to the pen he had it rough, but he stayed down 💯
GOOFY SHIT
Raymond wasn’t no joke
I’ve been watching a lot of TH-cam since I’ve been out the feds and this is by “far” the best channel when it comes to interviewing O.G.’s and reptables from these various sets in L.A. And you questions be on point , bro. Keep up the good work and I’ll keep on watching . And thx for coming to the FAR WEST SIDE and interviewing my VENICE SHO LINE CRIP homies too.💯 FW VSLC 6th ave, Maniac.
It's amazing how organized we was in a confined prison system with the Vanguard, BGF and CCO regimes but the same organizational structures was not implemented in the civic system. We are a highly intelligent people and could elevate and adapt in any of these systems of America.
There’s a gang who destroys all that unfortunately. It’s called the FBi
@@CiscoSZR True indeed.
Blade is still locked up, he's BGF. I was in Corcoran Shu with him 2016
This guy is a great story teller I definitely like the way he responds to the questions being asked he answer every question with respect and truth. I hope to hear more stories from Brother Clay 👍👍👍👍👍
One thing for sure two things for certain Kev Mac’s interviews always line up and paint an authentic portrait ✊🏾
When Raymond went to prison BGF was at the height of it's Power. Watch Mundo channel and the years 71,72 and 73 was the bloodiest years in CDC history. BGF was putting in work on the CO's especially after they killed W.L Nolan a key BGF Player.
Which is consistent with Claudy Clays big homie killing a CO… and him going on a mission and being in the hole with a lot of those dudes.
Claudy got there in 74’ when a lot of BGF was in the hole for assaults on staff. And the Crips started getting up there in 73’ and like he said some joined BGF but he doesn’t want to say their names. He said he grew up with them since kids.
@@KevMacVideos Claudy was right their and he must have meet allot of the key players from all factions.
Forget all of the bunk movies they be rolling out at the theaters; we need cold films that show our history dealing with the racist CDC from '71-'73. Younger generations in Cali need to know how their fathers and grandfathers made it out of that war zone. Personally, I will say this again (as I have said on KMV several times):
The Almighty has always been with us. With the dismantling of the BGF and throwing most of them in control/ isolation units the Almighty prepared the CRIPS to come into the CDC to give us a second round of protection from racist CDC prisoncrats.
KMV, this is great history here.
@@TyiOGD71-73 SO WHAT HAS CHANGED SINCE THEN? NOTHING ITS WORSE NOW THAN EVER, REALLY SO CALLED BLACKS MELANTED NATIVES WARRIORS STOPPED FILLING THE PRISONS? WHAT HAS CHANGED?
Ya I’m white but my grandpa was locked up back then and used to tell me stories about fighting the bgf crazy shit
First-hand knowledge is awesome
Johnny Spain is a real cool dude. I met him in Berkeley at a community garden 10 years ago. He was always lacing us young cats up and had real positive energy.
Stand up person......"He was my friend before gangs"
Kev Mac...All your Interviews are... Unique a Class by itself !!💯💯
He said you threw him a curve ball, “low and outside” 😁
You can feel the truth Salute OG 👍
Tapped in as always. Salute Champ
Kev Mac giving us these bangers.
Supporter from day 1!
You’ve got another one! Great content
Thanks!
Another tight video kev, I like the way you mixed in squirrel with Claud
Why would they wanna join the crips..our black holocaust is an consistent thing going on...Black brother's wake the fuck up..Raymond Washington Tookie Etc... When are we going too Rise Against Satan The caucasians..?
Another classic 🙏🏽
Now you guys can see why the Bay Area (Frisco, Oakland, East Palo Alto, Richmond, Vallejo, Marin, Pittsburg) rejected being bloods and crips. The Bay Area already had a strong revolutionary structure and foundation. The panthers as well as other black revolutionary and black power organizations were so strong in the bay started in the late 50s and 60s. That influence spread all across the country. LA was even influenced initially by the panthers as well ( Bunchy Carter etc)
But unfortunately, the government dismantled and infiltrated the panthers, killed the leaders, jailed key members and ultimately thwarted the movement. Hence making room for street gangs. ( Bloods and Crips) to thrive in LA.
LA was on some shoot and harm your brother, but the bay was about fighting against the system, black power, unity and black revolution. 2 completely different ideologies. It’s really sad and unfortunate that the bloods and crips for the most part couldn’t adopt that mindset. Of course there were many B’s and C’s that joined the BGF
To this day, there aren’t any crip or blood sets in the bay. There may be some off brands here and there. But there are ZERO reputable blood or crip sets. Dudes from the bay hit the pen and push 415/ Kumi/ BGF car.
Many Brothers from LA who were born in the late 1930s and in the 40s, had a revolutionary mindset. Which is why they were consistently fighting against the LAPD and LA County Sheriff's. 65 Watts Rebellion popped and the Brothers cracked it off against CHP and LAPD.
Before the Panthers kept watch on police, The Slausons had C.A.P (Community Alert Patrol), they would watch the police. So it looks like despite being hundreds of miles away from each other. They had the same ideas, which would make sense. Just like the Deacons for Defense and others around the country.
With some exception like Kenneth Carter and Lorenzo Benton. It's interesting what literally a 10yr difference in birthdates can do, in terms of mindset.
Then by the time the Crip generation that was born in the 60s, came along there was really no true revolutionary mindset. Due to various factors some of which you named.
The Government did a good job. The government created problems has had a good run. We will get it right though.
The Bay was on the same shit too with the turf wars and dope game. Nothing revolutionary and no different from LA, same black on black .
Nothing like that Bay love ✊🏾
Bro, thats's a Myth.
The Bay Area had a Heavy Drug Scene Back Then.
"Brothers" were killing Brothers in the Bay. Just Google Murder Rates of Oakland & SF in the 1950s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s....at all there for you to see. Black on Black.
BGF & other Bay Area Brothers had a heavy had in distribution Of Heroin and other Drugs in the Community Up There.
Man, Didnt a BGF killed Huey P Newton , The Founder of the Black Panthers ?
The Bay Been Killing Nxggas.. Stop It !
@@souljahleel You Beat me to it
Amazing video.
Just got off the clock now it's time for education..Kev Mac got the streets on lock
this is gonna be a good one.
That was fire
Kev Mac got the Realest Interviews
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Yessuuhhh 💪🏽
Kev Mac. Ask Claudy do he remember the Theus family on 79th & Stanford right next to the store. Pops (our daddy), RIP told they had 80+ low riders bumper to bumper on 79th 1 particular day from Stanford East! Both sides of the street!
This is a week ago bruh
@@KevMacVideos lol
Let’s go!!
Definitely waiting 4 the episode! Because it's PIRATES 🏴☠️ SH1T! Only a Pirate would understand! Good 1 KMV & OG Clay!
Bgf was right about the black on black crime.
Peace too everyone on this post and those whom made a comment. First off, I'd like to thank Kev Mac and his tremendous creative efforts in bringing forth this amazing product of historical information concerning California gang's (mainly Los Angeles County). Based on this interview with the OG Claudy..I must say I'm very curious to see and read no one challenged (Claudy's) his claims of getting to Tracy and finding out ,that The Founder of the Crips RAYMOND WASHINGTON was in the hole and no one spoke u to help Raymond until he got there ?? an individual that was NOT OF THE SAME GANG FACTION..and they so easily let Raymond walk the MAIN LINE, because of this brother who said he was his friend??? Really??? Smh.. I see how many times I get dissed IF I POST MY COMMENTS due too the fact I never been too prison or gang banged I get dissed...and some times I'm told I can't speak....but yet in still.. they let a sell out play the most notorious and famous crip of them all..BY A COMEDIAN..yup Jamie Foxx played Tookie..are we really interested in real or WHAT IS REAL AT THE TIME OF THE TOPIC?... think Claudy is Jimmy's panter...all of a sudden an opposite so-called friend and potential difference of gang ideology..was the 1 to get him to walk the MAIN LINE??? Remember... Raymond Washington movie is supposed 2 be getting ready 2 be done. Let that sink in...u know if you got bad shit too say about the founder most likely it won't make the cut...but if you say good things it will help the movie sell .and possibly the individual (s) telling there so-called, GOOD STORIES about Raymond will be compensated. Peace to all , please do not respond with emotions..may the most high bless all who seek blessings.
Allow me to respond with all respect sir. Allow me to take you back to my interview, I said the bishops and crips leadership never fought we all remained friends, I said I would never allow a name of a gang come between my friends, I spoke on how I removed the shotgun from Terry Simmons head and ghost got mad at me, Terry was my friend we all grew up playing little league ball,I spoke on going to duck a shot caller from 89 eastcost crips service I was warned not to go that they will kill me for sure my attitude was we're not Savages I'm going to repay my respect to my friend duck was like my little brother and I loved him doing the funeral service when all the Crips staring me down at me it was big cycle Michael who came from the front row and said come on Jim sit with me see brother we're not Savages I was glad to hear that story coming from the homie I had heard about that years ago but I never talked with Clay about it Raymond would have done the same thing doing my interview I also said the bounty hunters was calling Bishop's crip lovers now you see how everything came to play plus clay had a very close relationship with the bgf we all did
THE OLD HEADS ALWAYS CONNECT DOTS. KNOWINGLY OR UNKNOWINGLY. BEEN WAITIN FOR THESE
Rip TO THE GENERAL RAYMOND WASHINGTON. 💯🙏💪
Rip to the king Raymond Lee Washington
Ok, G got that history
🔥🔥🔥. Nothing else to say
SUBTITLES PLZ FOR THE WHITE SHIRT. All LUV 💯💯
Change playback speed
Claudy say that's a Curve Ball, Low & Outside...
Gotta love the baseball terminology.
@@KevMacVideos Another classic line. Only on KMV
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276 271. Rip George Jackson and Man child 🐉✊🏿🔥🙏🏿
Too much tribalism fucked up the black car... Imagine the Panthers might've not gone extinct had they formed a prison chapter... Or if George Jackson instead of forming the BGF in 1966 would've instead made a chapter of the Panthers in prison... Then that one BGF might've not smoked Huey P Newton in 1989 in Oakland... Then the Crips might have not formed in 1969 and the Bloods might have not formed in 1972... And instead you would have the Blk car under the Panther flag on the streets and most def in CA prisons
i remember about 10 years ago some "new black panthers" popped up saying stuff that had nothing to do with the real litterature and when jammed up by an og panther, so they stomped him out, and for a time it was said that the "new bpp" were feds and to be killed on sight.
the new bpp were going on fox news talking about killing white babys and raping white women, and alot of the older generation felt like they were provokatuers intended to inspire white violence against blm and the trayvon and oscar grant protestors.
BGF was supposed to be da armed wing of bppsd and u should really look into y hue was killed and really like into the political ideology of bppsd and how it changed and you'll get your answers
@@august_3rd i believe huey was killed by cointepro, no doubt about it. check out the john potash documentaries "fbi war on tupac shakur and black leaders" and "drugs as weapons against us" in fact monster gave that tupac book a shot out in his kev mac interview. i believe the govt is at war with the people.
@@august_3rd I know why Huey was killed supposedly he was robbing dealers for their drugs since he developed a habit... And the BGF clearly became their own entity... It might've been different if George Jackson just assumed the Black Panther name instead of BGF
Crips were out numbered from the beggining then they flipped the script and got their weight up... Crips were outnumbered by Brims and other gangs in the street and BGF in prison
Good history
Yo kev, eff my history this is just my personal opinion. I was talking to my boys about the hood when i grew up there in the 80s and lived in the hood 20 years from, the 70s. I realized one thing, being chased by the atrays and the hoovas from horace mann. Being an immediate product of the war, non affilliated but guilty by association. Every time u OGs talk about the start of the war the same thing resinates, he killed a six O & no one from 8tray new his name and he disappeared.... Coeintel pro at its finest, it sounds like a government job yet no one ever thought black panther like focus was the reason, yet this man disappeared. If I was ivestigative I would start looking at la gang released public records like they do UFOS, through goverment offices. Cause I kno 1 thing growing up off 60th vic for 20 years, u never just disappear.
He never disappeared. He was arrested, and the newspapers covered it. He was a juvenile.
He was convicted, and went to YA with some of the homies who can verify it. It’s mentioned in one of my interviews.
He paroled, and can be found with a simple search.
He’s left one comment and reached out to me once to inform me he’s working on a a project regarding the incident.
Growing up in the hood we know how ignorant and cowardly we can be sometimes and how often our ego and pride supercedesconflict resolution. Cointelpro had nothing to do with it.
@@KevMacVideos well articulated
@@KevMacVideos I want to read that u gotta link? All that senseless war I wanna read his point of view.
Is there a whole song 🎶 to the intro ? Because I like it
KEV MAC Videos intro by Fitzgerald Jr
@@KevMacVideos Thank you 🙏 Respect
For those saying they need subtitles you must not be black everybody grandpa or uncle talk like this even now
Does anyone know Ruff House from
San Diego.Donald Bracey. Rip Prison
Legend.
East Riverside is in the building let’s go
That’s crazy I didn’t Crips was getting into
With the up north dudes way back in the 70’s
I thought it started sometime in the late 80’s
i think LA just shits on the bay, and doesnt realize how many nasty characters the bay has too.
@@SidewaysBurnouts for niggas that do nun but bang you saying the niggas that started actual meaningfull organizations are nasty characters idk about that lmao yall were the ones robbing and jumping people for leather coats shit dont compare
@@SidewaysBurnouts lmao ok
@@pernaizuhbutler4694 how many of your homeboys got sliced up for dissing the bay?
@@SidewaysBurnouts huh nigga I'm form northern California are you dissing the bay or saying it get just as active?
The Crips had numbers over the BGF in 73-74-75 etc? Enough numbers to go against them, during that particular time period?
In those yrs they would've been too young & unorganized to really take on Jama ???
I see a few people saying the same thing but if you talked to Squirrel, Johnny Blair (still alive), and Claudy Clay they have the same story.
The dudes that killed the preacher in 1972 (not saying names) all those murders in Compton and the east side in 1973 are the ones hitting prison. Trials didn’t take that long back then.
@@KevMacVideos One of those guys who killed the preacher,joined Jama
@Austin Tx Tookie didn't go to prison until 79-80 and Tookie was on death row,So he was confined to death row yard @San Quentin
@Austin Tx
You must of forgotten Tookie was stabbed in the neck in prison. And aint nothing happen to Lil Fee either.
MAC HEAD HERE !!!!! NO CUT HOMIE !!!!
A situation at this point in time in history is a perfect time to start recruiting opposition to anything looking like the Black Panthers that Malcom X secretly started wondering who all Raymon’a contacts where when this incident took place?
Malcolm didn't start the Panthers bruh. They started themselves independent of Malcolm but embraced his self defense beliefs.
@@mattjamison2612 I know you was not there but one of Malcom’s bodyguards was in on the meetings in different college campuses where all the planning took place and not everyone knew but those college students who eventually turned into the Black Panthers. If you’re where there then feel free to oppose but if not you can’t get this information on the net talk to your old heads who lived the life and not just speculated.
@@kreid9 So you're saying Malcom X Bodyguard was in Oakland, at the time of the Formation of the Panthers in 1966?
You do realize that Malcom X was assassinated in February 1965 right? Almost two years (20 months passed) before the Official date of the Panthers being formed in October 1966.
Maybe you meant his former bodyguard, was there on a few campuses on the east coast. When those chapters were being formed in 67 and 68.
Cause even the LA Chapter, which was headed by Alprentice "Bunchy" Carter, started in the last few months of 67.
@@complexblackness you do realize strategic planning takes time right? Malcolm already knew by then he would have to reorganize with secret and public support. You think Malcom had no plans ? You will need foot work and go find people during that time period if possible for proving this to be false, don’t even waist your time if you’re not going to get your hands dirty.
@@kreid9 bruh, I was raised in Cali and my relatives were Panthers. Bobby Seale and Huey Newton are the founders period. I'm old enough to know. I'm sure you're not. Malcolm's bodyguard being there to witness something is nothing to do with the Panthers original ten point platform. Also, depends on which Malcolm's bodyguard was there. Gene Roberts and others who gaurded Malcolm were cointelpro informants/agents.
Kev Mac.,I'm From Up North.,Stocktone.,An A Few Times In The Pen The Bloods Sho'Backed Me Up At Times When I Was By My Self Against ALOT or All Sureños. Kenny From Blk KeyStone.,Vino From 60's.,An Many Others.,Crips.,Ken Dog From 60's.,Shane From Skyline, San Diego.,etc.,Don't Know If I'm Just Lucky Or What.,But My Big NF Homies Showed Them Alit Of Love.,An aFew More Recent Norteños I Guess Showed Them Hella Love Way Back & These Folks Never Hesitated To Assist Me With Weapons or Simple Backup When I Really Needed A Show Of Force...My Question Is Why None Of The OG Bloods Never Mention The El Rucans & Clearance From Chicago Like It Was Explained To Me By LA Bloods ?
Funny how people say that can't understand the OG... I bet his roots are from the South...
I thought them brothas was cool wit each other
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His story doesn't make sense time line wise unless I miss something. Because if Raymond got there in 73 he couldn't have had da numbers to go against BGF. Like cutes said when he got there they were black coats not outwardly claiming crips so what year is this brother talking about when they started to have da numbers over bgf ?
He’s actually saying Raymond had already been there in 1973… and the BGF got at him. He clearly stated BGF was bigger but when he got there in 74 (February) and the Crips was getting deep.
He states one name and says he not saying the others because they are up for parole. If you know about the crimes and the wars of 1972 and 1973 you will realize the Crips started to pour into Tracy after trial at that time.
When he says 5-1 I agree that sounds like a stretch but logically thinking, all the BGF wasn’t located in Tracy on the mainline. They were spread out in several prisons and in the hole. Meanwhile, the Crips was all landing in Tracy to begin their tours.
Crips didn’t flood the entire prison system until approximately 1980 and those wars was centrally located in Folsom.
@@KevMacVideos so a year later 74 the crips had da numbers ok.
@@KevMacVideos I'd be curious to know when Cali changed its laws on juveniles. That''ll run numbers up quick, but even the slightest change in law does that.
@@bokardithetaomicron4932 Great point. What was the politics like at that time. I'm sure there was some laws or State lawmakers that stood out. There is always laws drafted to contain black youth or remove them from society. And being that the BGF was the predominant black group inside the walls we can honestly say most BGF members were given unfair sentences or charges in the era of Jim Crow legislation.
August 3rd… I know you’re being sarcastic but if you listen you may just learn something. There’s a lot of crips that hit the system in 1973 based on their 1972 and 1973 convictions.
Once you understand that, and the fact Raymond was recruiting Crips on the yard before he was stabbed, you can start doing the math.
At which point, you may just sit back and realize that every member of the BGF wasn’t in Tracy. There was also San Quentin, Soledad, and Folsom. Meanwhile the Crips was hitting Tracy.
Every video I watch on crips and bloods they all admit the BGF, was smashing on foo's.
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That's a little boy he can't be nineteen
Anyone that been to Tracy knows that visiting room… and that outfit. Peace
Dam! I wish they had a English version of this I can't understand a word.
Wasn't it 74 Raymond got bagged
Absolutely not.
"crips were too wild" nah stop tryna put words in his mouth 💀
He was seen in hell , better get salvation in Yahashua Jesus Christ
BGF stand for booty gang family
@Ja Rule it's murrddddaaaaaaa 🕳️
Why you say that
Not even remotely true...
They would've stabbed you up as soon as you hit the yard with them.
Not true