Audi S4 B8 3.0TFSI engine removal for timing chain replacement
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Tristan's MRC tuned Audi S4 was at our place for timing chain replacment. Meanwhile the engine was out we did find some more things what need doing.
Begining of the video is a short tutorial to help some of you how to remove this kind of engine.
Rest of the video is for the owner to have a nemory how much he love hes S4.
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Utmost respect to you guys. Great to see how you take part an engine, find the faults, and put it back better than new from factory. Awesome. True skill and patience. A real set of mechanics rather than just putting it on diagnostics and saying to the customer “we’ve found no faults”. True representation of the craft of mechanic
I got so much respect for you guys. I’m a total fool when it comes to engines. And seeing you do this with joy and passion. I love it!
Amazing !! soooo many bolts,
and that timing chain is scary.
Congratulation
Thank for sharing your work.
Very inspiring
Running 100% again! Man the BG EPR works wonders! Adding MOA after to seal the deal, love their products!
Really informative and easy to follow. Many thanks, good tunes too.
I love watching your videos. Makes me sad I don't have you guys near me.
Soo much work for timing chain F""'''"'C ! BTW you guys are great and you do you job with confidence , looking forward to see more videos !
Thanks for sharing, look forward to seeing more!
thanks for watching , next video will propably be something like RS :)
I probably come anytime soon, Thank you for video, Always professional!
That's a lot of work! Nice job...
Nice work!
Great job
Greeting From Serbia
Superbe boulot 👍 bravo les gars 😉
Ma’am you are great!!
Great video! Could you do an in depth video on how you set timing/pretension the adjusters? I think that would do well
Hi,
Have to finish the editing , done full engine build on one so all details will be there
Thanks for watching
Awesome video
Good work
Awesome 👍
Excelentes vídeos, me gustaría saber el precio de estos mantenimientos, si no exacto, una aproximación.
Perfect
That timing chain is terrifying.
I just did my PCV and it was a pain.
is it easier if you remove the suspension too so you dont need to remove the axles ?
Didn’t have to scare me like that😭😭. Amazing video though
Who's is that kitted A3 in background, looks sick👌
Hi there i love ur videos keep going u guys are masters at what u do
I have question how to separate dsg trans from engine on s4 b8. Normal auto trans has flywheel bolts but not sure dsg pls let me know thx
Hi , you need to remove the plastic cover from the bottom of the DSG , and unscrew 6 16mm bolts . every single time you take on out you need to turn the engine until all of them will be out. Also Right shaft is in the way need to be taken fully out . Drain the oil bofore doing so
I've been driving vag cars my entire life, and I love these cars so damn much, but these services are what scare me from owning anything more modern, 2005 (ish) past 100k (ish).
So much work just to get it out wow lads
bèllissima..s4 bravissimi
Many thanks for all, i am wondering: how much car (in %) with a oem intake must had the chain service ?
Is it due to stage 1,2. ....etc.. ? Thank you
What's the cost of doing this at your shop,,? (Thanks for the educating videos)
Thanx for the detailed vid and feedback. What are the symptoms that show that chains need replacing? I have a B8.5 S4 with 205000 kms now
TIA
About every 80k
I have a question I have a 2014 s4 and the oil filler cap has strong suction is this normal because I’m loosing a little bit of oil and I don’t have a check engine light? Could the pcv valve be going out?
Hello Great job!
Which tensioner was really out of order, the camshaft chain tensioners?
I have an Audi A6 3.0 TFSi and I have the cold timming chain problem.
I could change the camshaft chain tensioners myself, without removing the engine, but I'm not sure how to fix the problem?
Have you ever only changed the chain tensioners of the camshafts? I live in France, do you have a trusted partner garage?
Continue your videos, they are great!
Hi,
Thanks ! Well from our expierence best is remove the engine . So much hustle to do it on the car
how much for a service like that , my 162k km S4 make no noise but I want to go the extra miles to keep her healthy at unitronic stage 3 plus the iabed 75mm TB .
Great vidéo! Which kilometers do you prescribe to do this timing chain job on S4B8.5? Only when it starts ratteling? Seem’s like Audi’s doesn ‘t have any prescribtion for that. Sorry for my english. Very nice to see that on vidéo.
Thanks for your time
Impossible to say, really.
Some will last for a few weeks, while some lasts 200k.
It depends on driving style, local climate, general maintenance etc.
I have a Audi S4 b8.5 with a cracked exhaust manifold could you do a video on how to replace it please
So what is the common mileage time frame where these first generation of these 3.0 supercharged motors normally having issues with timing chains
Thanks for sharing!
@VAG Technic, at 16:35 did you change the intercoolers of the supercharger or did you just clean them somehow?
Hi,
We replaced one for new , other one was done not long time ago
@@VAGTechnic Thanks for the quick response! Are there any telling sings/ symptoms of when one needs changing? I recently bought an A7 with this engine and I wonder if I'll have to replace those once they deliver it to me
Do you find that BG MOA has any benefits? The service advisors are always selling them to my customers but I've always seen it as unnecessary if the oil interval is followed, just wondering if you have a different perspective on it
Probably just for that super scammy "warranty" that BG offers but is super specific to x amount of miles and car can't be too old balogna
What was the oil treatment?
What kind of front splitter is this? I want it!
whats the total bill on this job? i'm almost afraid to ask
How many miles on this car? I have two of these engines: One in a 2012 Q7 with 149k miles and one in a 2010 S4 with only 56k miles. The Q7 has had a terrible timing chain tensioner rattle for a while and just recently threw codes P0018. I swapped cam position sensors but the problem stayed with bank 2. I am hoping only the upper chain tensioners are needed to replaced to fix this. Both have carbon build up in the secondary air passage ways, but the code for that on the S4 is very intermittent only on very cold days, so I am postponing. But I am worried that the Q7 will need this full timing chain rebuild and its also leaking oil somewhere in the rear. I do a lot of my own repairs (I've pulled the SC before and did the front coolant crossover pipe and water pump and replaced a turbo on another car for example), but pulling the engine at home looks very intimidating - but if I do pull it or pay someone to pull engine at least cleaning the ports will be much easier. Great videos - thanks so much for making these!
Hi
This was one was aroun 80k milage
@@VAGTechnic Thanks for the reply! For the S4 when its due for a clutch or timing chain (which ever comes first), I think I will pull the engine and do the timing chain, clutch and clean the secondary air ports and intakes all at the same time. This should be a large time savings or money (if I outsource it) savings compared to doing each of those at separate times.
How many Km is it on the car when you do this job?
QUESTION ?? I’m doing a engine swap taking off
a A5 2.0 B.8 to S5 3.0 V6 supercharged , any idea on what wiring I will need so far i got the Ecu computer and wire harness in front what else would I need ??
Don’t do it …
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What is the intake valve cleaning tool?
Sheer engineering marvel
Hello mate
Been watching some of your video's with the 3.0tfsi engine on
Got myself a a6 c6 caja 3.0tfsi and only smiles gives me but,always there's a but
Maybe you have encountered a zooming noise inside the cab but no different noise outside apart from ticking engine.
Been to an indy but they can't find anything wrong with it but the zooming is still there.
And do the power steering pump are noisier than diesel cars. Mine been changed and still noisy.
Can you give an advice where should I look?
Many thanks Ben
Hi check ABS pump
@@VAGTechnic so when it's cold there's no noise at all very very quiet but when it's warming up zooming is there,do you think abs pump is faulty?
When did Audi(just in general) start to put the timing gear between the engine and the transmission anyone out there, please? What year more or less and or engine?
The screws of the undertray of the S4, where can I get them from as I’m missing a few and need to tighten it to stop too much drag from underneath the car
Main dealer
Are the reinforced tensioners for life??
How much did it cost changing those timing chains ? Thx
This explains why used ones are so cheap lol No way would i buy one knowing that i have to drop the engine
Hi there. I live in Sao Paulo Brazil, and have a Touareg 2012 V8 FSI. Do you know any good engine shop here that could review my engine and rest of car? I would be very grateful for your help. Thank you! Kevin
Hi. I’m going to take out engine from my audi s4 b8.5 to replace timing chain, tensioners and all seals to avoid leakage. Do you have list of parts which I need? could you send me email of parts?
Hello can you give me the torque that the engine need or where I can find the information please
Is this a high time engine.
Hi mate.
I have a 2011 b8 s4 3.0tfsi withing timing chain rattle on cold start.
What would I be looking at to have engine out and complete timing done? Thanks chris
Hi Chris, did you ever get it looked at? I’ve got a 8.5 but doing research supposedly it’s normal for 10 seconds accordingly to Audi on cold start. Mine normally lasts for 1 split second on start up, but the other day it felt like it lasted a lot longer then 10 seconds, it was -4 out outside…
I am little concerned as you can imagine
Cheers
@redemptionx2918 hi mate yes had complete timing done in the end and after It was done I didn't get no rattle what so ever
@@chrisrichmond233 Hi mate, thanks for the response. That wasn’t exactly the answer I wanted to hear… I’m going to do an oil change this weekend again and see if that makes a change. I bet that sent you back a few pounds, dare I ask how much…
Mega
Who makes that table jack, looks handy
We bought them online . Check of engine table
How many hours did you spend for dismantle engine from S4/B8?? Thx in advance for answer. Pit
25h
Is there 1 Audi on the road that has not had it's engine removed?
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Thank you for the video. In removing mine in my garage with no lift so I have to take the entire front of the car off. Should be interesting
Did you manage to get It done?
@@mustafamohammad1821 yes no problem, just put the heads back on the block this morning. I took a long break but am back at it
@@ozzypawsborneprinceofbarkness Did you have to redo the timing? Cause for me I gotta take off bank 2 head and everyones telling me cant be done unless engine is taken out the car.
@@mustafamohammad1821 yes I'm redoing the timing. You cannot remove the head in the car. You don't need to remove the head for timing though
@@ozzypawsborneprinceofbarkness I’m removing the head because I got a broken injector. If I wanna remove I gotta redo the timing tho? It’s only 1 chain
Are all VW chains broken because of Longlifeservice or are they just crap?
Could you tell me what S means won an Audi
What is the name of the platform for which you released the engine at 8:28?
Scissor lift, hydraulic table, hydraulic lift. Different companies call them different names
@@nrvsauto8990 Thanks
How long does it take to get the engine out with your way? Will really appreciate an answer!👍👍
One person 8 hours
How was the cats holding up?
What cats ? 😅
@@VAGTechnic Catalytic converters. :D They're known for failing on upgraded pulley setups.
I'm asking because my country has emission laws too so I'm debating whether it's safe to go dual pulley on my S4.
Whats the Cost ?
When I see those blue gloves with holes in them then I know you are serious about work like me. It is no such thing as keep putting on new gloves until you work the ones you have on off
Unreal. You have to do an engine out for timing service.
Love the video hate the music id rather you tell us what your doing.
Why the rattle is still there?
First start up …
CURIOUS WHAT THE TOTAL COST FOR THE JOB IS ?
Hi,
Check our videos you find the answer how much we charge :)
If could use clean mineral oil, chains might live longer
How many km on this one?
125.000km I think
How much you guys charge just for engine remove ?
Why you need just engine to be removed ?
Why you need just engine to be removed ?
@@VAGTechnic Just curious :D want to compare the prices in my country to yours, but probably that just depends on the shop I think.
Should of changed the oil check valves under pcv
These engines don’t have them
@@VAGTechnic hmmm weird i assumed they all did if it had those 2 screw on plugs.
What does a job like that cost?
Check our video how much does it cost , all information is there
eny body know how remover but you not showing step by step this video good for jut time pass
Might be clean engine wise. But god damn it needs a details
What a nightmare...wonder any home mechanics completed this repair at home without any lift
What is the rattle sound at 17:54?
First start up , no oil in the new adjusters :) always get it
@@VAGTechnic Thank you for clarifying! :)
Wow I was thinking of purchasing one, now I know to stay away, that must cost a arm and leg to repair or maintain
Not just that, the B8 trans has even more costly issues with the mechatronic unit.
Most of these cars you are seeing are heavily modified. I wouldn't expect to be replacing a timing chain on this engine when it's bone stock. Gearboxes look at 2013 onwards and again if all services to schedule then no need to expect crazy expensive "services" like this one, or like mechatronic fails etc
@@RandomShart chain tensioners and guides will go bad also on bone stock engines, mostly because of cheap design and Long life oil changes (=short life for the engine). 99,9% of newer cars with timing chain will have issues with chain sooner or later.
Why engine is so bad condition? I got same engine with 220000km and oem chains etc.. maybe older 3.0 tfsi is poorer quality
It’s all about previous maintenance
Comando motor 4.2 q7
First of all I would like to say that you do a good job and make good quality videos. In many videos you say "this is one of the cleanest" I get that because the owner is watching. But judging by the overall condition of the S4 and the wear and tear inside and out, it is in very poor condition. Then you say "he spent quite a bit of money" but that's on the wrong mechanic, parts and bits, plastics and stickers... Even your quality of work replacing the chain doesn't bring this engine/car up to par because of the poor history. I am not a mechanic but this is one of the reasons I do the straight forward maintenance myself as there are a few bunglers in between. I replaced the pcv valve on my SQ5 myself a few months ago, but if it looked like the S4, I would screw it back together and quickly trade the car in. Even after you replacing the chain on the S4 after initial start up when idling it still sounds bad due to the overall poor condition of the internals. In another answer here you indicate that it has run 80k miles but it looks more like a 200k miles poorly maintained car. Many of those dudes buy such a car and do the cosmetics and tuning first when they should first go for a good solid foundation. Nevertheless, keep up the good work and look forward to your videos.
Hi,
1st of all thank you for watching ! Well I can only judge the look of it by local standards. Unfortunately the U.K. don't have high standards when it comes to cars. They've been painted , people are changing engines for wrong ones and making funny exterior tune that I personally see as well as pieces of plastic as well mounted self tappers . BUT ! It can still be worse :D .... We have S5 4.2 in now and the video will come out soon, so you can see what a car can look like when it's bad ... This S4 that you just saw was really clean inside and out.... So that was a fact compared to what we had here. But UK cars are nowhere near Germany lets say when it comes to CLEAN tune...
Constructive feedback.. get rid of the music while you talk.
Timing chain on the back of the engine 😂. Some of them German engineers are sadists
Seriously, what's the problem with German cars? I would be very upset if my expensive car needed $10,000.00 worth of work. This might as well have a timing belt. What good is a chain if you have to replace it?!?!?!?!?!? That car has 350,000 miles on it right? Audi and BMW cars seem disposable. Just drive it for 150,000 miles and when it breaks down, call a tow truck to take it to the junk yard for its body panels.
yeah take the front of the car off, leave the engine in place..
If only it were that easy. The timing chains are on the back side of the engine, against the transmission!
Not worth owning
I have dis code P0018 on Q7
forget this junk and buy a toyota.