TREKOLOGY UL80 | The Sleeping pad with curves
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- Sleeping pad with curves? |The TREKOLOGY UL80 camping mat
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I weigh 18 stone and this mat has never let me down 👌🏻 even used it in freezing temps with a cheap £3 foil car windscreen cover underneath for insulation and didn’t feel any cold at all.
It's good to see someone that is, like me, not an marathon runner, testing out sleeping pads. I'm tired of people who are, like 10 stone reviewing them.
I've been using this pad for the last few months and love it, not had a bad night sleep on it yet and never felt cold coming through even here in Scotland...
I've just bought a UL80. Having watched your excellent reviews of this mat (this and the one comparing R values on an expensive Sea-to-Summit). I'm about to resume a thousand-miler from the south coast at Start Point to Cape Wrath; so a multi-day hike...
This will be the first 'air-bed' that I have used, having used three Thermarest traditional pads in the past (the latest being the supposedly self-inflating Prolite Plus which never 'self-inflated' once). I've listened to your comments carefully and have decided, as others have done, to pair up my UL80 with my SOL bivvi bag (which also abides by the two-uses-for-as-many-gear-items-as-possible rule), which for my early spring into summer use, from the Severn Valley, continuing north following the waterways, up the Pennine Way, over the Scottish southern uplands, up the WHW + GGW and eventually (if my 65-year-old knees n feet agree) onto the Cape Wrath Trail ...this pad + bivvi should be adequate. I'll report back in Book Three of Island Walks if things turn out differently!
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PS. I'm a retired Architectural Technologist by profession so I know a thing or two about R values, U values and insulation.
I've got one. One of the best nights sleep I've had outdoors
Is it still going strong without any problems
Nope unfortunately it's got a slow leak
So Paul how was the sleep mat ? I’m thinking 1 of these or Alpkit Dumo ?
Looks great! I'm a beginner on a budget and this seems ideal!
Only just found your channel, really enjoying your content (almost watched it all :D) I'm also in the UK and on lockdown and I have realised how much I miss being out and about. Determined to get out into nature, camping and hiking as soon as this is all over. Your channel has inspired me to get out and do it and it's equipping me with the knowledge I need to make my excursions a success so thankyou for that!
And thankyou for the entertainment during this crazy lockdown!
Looking forward to more beginner videos!
I bought a TREKOLOGY UL80 based on your review and LOVE it. The first one I bought slowly deflated over the space of 5 hours through the night, BUT Trekology replaced it without any hastle or questions. First class non-insulated mat and first class follow-up service too. I've been using it in temps down to 0c with a reflective sheet underneath it and the mat inside a sleeping bag liner. Nice and toasty! I'd use and insulated mat below 0c but the system works will at 0c and above. For £40.00 you wouldn't get better comfort in my opinion. Thanks Paul!
thank YOU Chris
4:35 - saying thermarest is more reliable, the suggested next video ‘my thermarest failed’ 😂
I used this down to little above 0 degrees C (mid October at Stickle Tarn in the Lake District) and my back was a tad chilly through a Vango Terklite Ultra 900 sleeping bag which made it a bit more difficult to get to sleep than usual. The next morning though, I felt still felt well rested. I had placed it on top of an old roll mat which seemed to absorb all my heat through the pad as it was quite warm despite having only the tent's groundsheet beneath it, but the pad itself was quite cold. I'd say this is ideal in summer but might want something toastier in Autumn and Winter.
I have this sleeping pad, reviews said there was issues with air loss, inflated mine kept it inflated for 4 days, it did lose a bit of air, but within reason for the time it was inflated, but no major air loss
Absolutely love mine paul always had a good nights sleep on my ul80 also a side sleeper too never had issues with heat loss through the mat either
I have had this for over ten months, great bit of kit for 3 seasons and it is comfortable. I have had no problems with the valve unlike the more expensive brands that seemed to fail after a week or two in thar hills.
Thanks Paul. Although I have a sleep pad and am not in the market for buying a new one, I love a camping equipment review/box opening. Yours are always normal (that is a compliment) and you ask the questions that regular people would ask. Keep the videos coming!
Love the thumbnail for this vid Paul; You look like Kate Winslet, clinging on to that door🤣🤣🤣🤣
I have had one for over a year, and its the best pad I have, I am a side sleeper and 6' 4 tall, get a great nights sleep and dont fall of the mat in the night which I do on my thermarest
I got it for camping in the Aussie outback, and it's been great.. For context, I weigh 90kg and I'm 177cm tall...
Trekology is actually an American company, and whilst they have their stuff made in China, they do use a decent manufacturer unlike many of the brands on AliExpress etc..
dont ever get a treckology pillow . they are like a wet paper bag
Thanks for posting this video. I bought TWO of these UL80s and a Trekology bag to inflate them (Total £90 approx.) We only ever used these airbeds on top of our foam matresses, which were on the tent's built-in groundsheet. In other words, we were hyper-careful about punctures. Sure enough: comfy to start with. Then after about 5 nights: they slowly deflate, so you're on the ground next morning. Lucky we had those reliable foam bedrolls underneath. We did the struggle in the bath to find that the Trekologys' seams had slow leaks. Naturally, we were just out of warranty, so that's £90 wasted. They cost us about £10 per night!
I’ve watched a few of your videos now as a newcomer to your channel and it’s got to be said that that your reviews are some if not the best informative reviews on TH-cam.
I’d happily buy gear on the strength of your vids alone.
Great job Mr M.
Great pad, I use a tiny electric pump to blow it up, as a side sleeper this is great, and I weigh 95KG, not tried in winter, but if it is cold then I would simply put a reflector underneath, it is not sweaty in summer, I've simply used this and a Jungle Blanket as a sleeping system, using a few bungees to attach the jungle blanket to it.
Just got back from my first trip using mine. The best sleep I've ever had under canvas. Thanks for your review Paul!
I have this and I love it. Paired with the trekology pillow and your on to a winner.
great review paul you,ve sold me yet again be getting one of those .i trust your judgement because all the stuff i have bought that you recommended has been top end gear and never let me down. also glad your on the mend 👍
Thank you
Nice review trekology ul80v2 been using it about a year and have had no problems it only comes in one color gray r value is about a 2. and as a side sleeper best sleep ever.
liked how next doors dog tried to get in on the video👌😂.
The bag looks big enough to put your pillow in as well. and even a down sleep beanie. Trekology makes some fairly decent budget friendly items. Nice 1st look at this pad.
Paul I love mine... I find it much better if you don't fill it up to the top maybe 3/4, full of air... makes it more like a memory mattress in a sort of way.. 👍👍👍🤫🤫😃
I bought one after watching this. It arrived today. Looks like a good piece of kit. Looking forward to trying it out.
Hey paul, love all your vids. Tip for you to try with the schnoz bag. Fill it with air, grip top, then with other hand, push air down. Only way to make any sense of the action is like squeezing sausage meat out of it’s skin. It is so much more efficient and easier than squeezing the bag like a bagpipe bag. Hope that makes sense. Keep up the good work and keep safe.
New to hiking and got one of these. I had memories of no sleep on inflatable beds. I haven't tried anything more expensive but have loved this pad so far.
I'm impressed and I believe the pillow that goes with it is just as good.
Hi Paul, Thanks for the vid. I recently bought the same mat and tried it out in the garden last weekend. Found it to be really comfortable and the curve definitely stops you rolling off. Not having owned a Thermarest, I couldn't compare insulation but overall for the price I am very impressed.
I've used it a couple of times so far and it's performed well. One thing though. I couldn't find a pump bag for it which was really annoying until I figured out how to make my own which is comprised of a garbage bag and an elastic. (I think I used a hair elastic at first.) The pump bag is much nicer but ... well I'm using a garbage bag and an elastic.
This is a great sleeping pad - bought it off Amazon myself recently and have taken it out twice now. Good comfortable sleep and doesn't make too much noise. This pad is great for us 'bigger' blokes (I'm over 130kg) and I can rest on my back or side fine without touching the ground. Get the matching Trekology pillow to go with it. I looked hard at the various expensive 'TH-cam Hiker' pads ie the various Thermarests etc and they were just too thin and compressed easily and were 'hideously expensive'. Might be fine for those fit blokes built liek racing whippets but not so good for those of us 'of a greater stature' :) I saw a great recommendation for this pad on TH-cam and for AUD$50 I thought why not - and it works exceptionally well.
Downside - there's only one that I've found so far. It's going to take around 30-35 breaths to inflate it manually and it doesn't come with, nor can you buy apparently, a sack or device to inflate it with. Good to see you had one that fits. I grabbed a small little cheap rechargeable inflator from my local K-Mart for $20. Does the job in about 7 seconds and only weighs about 100g or so.
Not sure on the R Value since its basically just an air mattress but with winter kicking in here soon (Oz) I'll grab a cheap lightweight foam mat with that reflective crap on it to go underneath for an extra layer.
Let us know how this goes for you Paul! ;)
Just put a mylar blanket underneath it and you are good to go
Have you got a link for the 100g charger?
Sea to sumit ether light .... Simply the most comfortable pad EVER and Ive spent on fortune on pads .... this is the last one i will ever buy !
Brilliant! After a long wild camping break we’re now on the brink of our first trip out.
Just tested out my old exped downmat with inflating stuff sack but unfortunately the mat is no good.
After investing in lots of expensive kit this mat looks a good temporary option which will work with my stuff sack
Cheers 👍🏼
This looks great value. As a side sleeper I'm beginning to question spending over 200 on a sea 2 summit ether xt rectangular, as great as it is...
I got one about a month ago after you mentioned it in passing in another video . I have tested it in the back garden overnight on 2 occasions and got really good sleeps - really comfortable. When I inflated it, I was worried that it wasn't going to fit in the tent (Vango Helium UL2) because I hadn't checked the measurements when I bought it! Luckily, it fits with 10cm to spare 🙂 Thanks
It definitely is as good as they say they are. Paired mine with a USB pump and happy days. Or nights.
Picked mine up last week (along with the pillow) - Haven’t had a chance to test it yet, but with your initial overview it’s looking like not a bad purchase.
I have just ordered one off Amazon UK.
For anyone who does not know.....Trekology also do a 10L Pump Sack for the Trekology UL80 sleep mat.
Unfortunately it is,sold separately but is only 8 English Pounds.
NO it does not work for the UL 80!!!
Use Exped or Robens (cheaper)
Hurrah! We have actually got some kit before its on youtube,,,! Tis a good mat for a side sleeper. Atb.
This is what I want to hear! As a side sleeper I haven't found a truly decent mat for a side sleeper.
I'm sold! My back can become uncomfortably warm using a thermarest pad/mummy sleeping bag combination but this quoted R-rating (including the discrepancy), plus that I am a side sleeper would make this ideal for me.
Thanks for the top review Paul.
Although this is one of the comfiest sleeping pads I have ever used, after 10 uses it doesn't work anymore. Go onto the Amazon reviews and you will see this is not an anomaly. They seem to start to leak air after a few uses. I went with this pad because it was cheap, lightweight and comfy. I was duped by the price. Get something more expensive otherwise you're just gonna have wasted your money once it no longer works. All these reviews always seem to be from someone who has used it for one or two nights, remember that.
Just bought one and used in wild camping in Scotland this weekend. My 7 year old son used it and slept better on this than he does in his bed! Can’t wait to try for myself! Thanks for reviewing
I always enjoy your videos and usually learn something very worthwhile from them. Trekology pad seems to be most useful in warmer weather but with a reflectix pad or other similar pad underneath it looks like you could get by in relatively cold weather. Thanks.
Been thinking of this one for a while. Looks and sounds like just the job.
If you're having troubles rolling off the side, try a pad with vertical baffles (exped style), or better yet, a quilted baffle (S2S style). My S2S Ether Light XT feels so much more stable.
I have the trekology pillow and it's great! Very interested in the sleeping pad 😁👍
The pad seems very good too. Obviously I’ve yet to use it in anger but the comfort is superb
Just bought the pillow so hoping good things from it.
I brought one of these , yes they are comfortable, but you need to use something underneath unless its the middle of the summer. Ended up buying Mountain Equipment Aerostat Down pad yes its 3+ times the cost and weighs about 250 grams more but it is seriously warm have used it when it has been down to minus and not felt cols seeping through
I bought this too...I contacted trekology about replacement plugs for the valve (just incase) apparently they dont supply...so dont damage your plug or it's a new airbed !!
Looks great Paul, you gave it a good test under the circumstances, see you again soon i hope ,stay safe thanks for sharing
Great review Paul, enjoy watching your reviews just as much as your adventures. Just bought this pad now and can't wait to try it
Just to add, done a wild camp on Dartmoor 1st time using this mat - brilliant. The snozzle drysack pumps it up in no time.
Great video and nice and clear audio which always helps when watching these type of videos. Cheers for a good quality upload and good review.
I use a $7.50 blow-up mattress from Kmart Australia that's 75cm wide and about 190cm long.. If you fold it lengthways in thirds and then tightly roll it up, it takes up about twice as much space in the bag as this thing, and it weighs 1.5kg which is double what this weighs. However, if you're able to fit it and your bag doesn't already weigh a tonne, then it's brilliant to have the extra width and height off the ground..
not £35 anymore paul , cheapest i could find was £44 but still worth every penny!! i just tried mine out for the first time this weekend and my mate actually woke me up at 9am!! that`s NEVER happened in a tent before!! . Quick complaint if i may? you`re costing me a bloody fortune man!! i`m on the hunt for an exped schnozzle now! stop it already! LOL
Bought this sleeping pad this summer thanks to your review! I’m really happy about it. The only thing is Finland the areas that have permafrost. The R-value isn’t enough. But because it is lightweight and really really comfortable, I’m just gonna use it with a regular heat reflecting foam sleeping mat. That combo should be great at least for 3 seasons! Still a budget solution.
Thanks so much for the gear you sent me
No worries Harry. I’m glad you liked it. Hope you had a great birthday?
I had a great birthday thank you.
I use one, the best I've had so far and really comfortable...Cheers Paul bought mine because of this video..
Tmely review. Been looking at these, just bought schnozzel and trekology sent me your link to ans. The Q if the schnozz fits their pad! It does, thxs Paul.
This pad seems to hit a sweet spot, thick for side sleepers, yet compact and not too heavy, unlike my Exped Downmat 9 at 44 oz. (1250 grams?) Or, to thin like my neo X therm at 2.5”
Just bought mine as well - looks good but obviously yet to use in anger! Seems robust and comfortable enough and small pack size / lightweight is a bonus. Need to get the inflator bag though! Good choice 👍
can't find a short version of this! was excited when you said there was one too. lol
Looks okay, and not a bad price. Will look forward to your full review. Cheers. 👍
Thanks for the Review Paul, much appreciated. Fingers crossed the warmth will pass the Messner test.
Thanks Paul.
From North West England UK 👍⛺
I have a Trekology 2.0 Aluft pillow, the one with an elasticated strap on the back. It's fantastic because the strap keeps it in place. I already have a Klymit insulated pad but I admit this one is tempting me.
Exact same here, but the R value of these is 2 or 2.5 and Klymit is 4.4 so I’ll stick with Klymit, just not their pillow, Trekology pillow is way better.
@@carmenmartinez2882 Klymit R-value ratings are based on an old model of evaluation. Under the new version (ASTM F3340-18) all their mats drop from 4.4 to 1.9. If the Trekology mat is ASTM F3340-18 rated then 2 and 2.5 is warm enough for most 4-season use, just not extreme cold. For that I'd always recommend EXPED.
@@darthkek1953 thanks for the info.
Good video Paul, interesting comparison. As to which is a priority, weight, cost or quality, I think it depends on so many factors. If you are climbing mountains and out for several days at a time then lighter weight has to be a serious contender. If you are walking in more gently undulating areas and not having to cover set distances then weight is perhaps less critical although age (of the camper) also plays a part! Quality kit is nice to have - and it does make a difference to your camping experience - but unless you are a serious mountaineer, as you say, for 99% of the time and conditions in the UK that most people will go out camping in, you can easily get by with much more basic kit. Agree entirely with your comment that if money is tight then prioritising the sleeping system is where you want to be - nothing worse than spending a night outdoors unable to get warm!
I bought one on Amazon a few months ago, great pad. It’s 4+ inches tall, I’m 6’3” and I fit on it with no problem. The only drawback is that it takes about 30 breaths to fully inflate it.
What about Your weight??
So pleased you tried using your schnozzel to inflate as i have been wondering if anything like that would fit my trekology pad, thanks Paul!
Awesome Paul awesome .. I’ve just ordered the pillow for it .. will orded the mattress in spring .. in that time they might bring out a silver bottom ... cheers Chris & Sam
Happy days, was thinking a summer sleeping pad was in order. Problem solved! Cheers pal! 👍🏼
I haven’t tested it in anger yet but early impressions look good. It got plenty of space and it’s very comfortable. What do you currently use in the summer?
Paul Messner use the thermarest xtherm all year round at the moment mate.
Wild Astro yeah I can see why you’d maybe want something a little cooler.
Paul Messner looks a belting pad for less than £35!!
Not a bad little item Paul. Especially for the money. Interested to hear your thoughts after a nights sleep on it. ATB Dave 👍
Paul I’m getting my pad delivered tomorrow along with a Flextailgear Tiny Pump. I figured that pad would take ages to inflate!
Hi Steven. I've just bought myself this sleeping pad and I don't care for using my lungs to inflate it :) Can you let me know if the pump is a worthwhile buy? Thanks.
I have the Exped Airmat Lite Plus 5M at the moment, used it for a week last year on King's Trail here in Sweden. Served me well but it is a touch to short (182cm) and I didn't liked the length wise channels too much on the Exped, this pad seems like it could replace my exped really well! Thanks for putting it on my radar Paul!
Thanks for the first look Paul. Be interesting to see how it works in the field as such.
I've been thinking of getting one of these as an extra for a friend to come along backpacking with us. Looks good for summer hiking.
Thanks for the review. This pad looks awesome for the price. Let's hope you can get out soon to give it a real world test. Please can you do a follow up review after a few uses and give us your opinion.
Nice vid Paul, i have this mattress and used it the day before lockdown on Glenridding Dodd summit camp and found it quite cold in spots throughout the night, it will be good for spring/summer months and is quite comfortable aswel, but i would use my xtherm come autumn/winter 👍
@t w i had a foil mat underneath this and a groundsheet under my tent aswel, it was a coldish night and i did feel the cold through the mattress at times but i will use again for summer! 👍
Interesting. I saw this pad for the first time this morning and here it is again. Looks like my promise to stop buying kit while I can't use it is in serious jeopardy. Thanks Paul, I think ;)
Good overview Paul. Following for the real world test! Likely going to upgrade my old SIM for my 8year old daughter to use as the aluft is more comfortable, lighter and much less bulky. I have a reflective closed cell we could combine if cold but interested how you get on with it when the temps drop again - been a scorcher this spring 👍🏻
Cheers, Paul! Thanks to this video I've just taken delivery of mine today.
I was going to post a comment on your next video, requesting that you review this. Cheers, Paul. 😃
Exped blow up bag fits! Good to know. I've got two. Had to buy a bag for my Big Agnes pad.
What a great price. I would have liked to see the stuff sack being an inflation bag ( like the Etherlight XT has) to save on carrying an extra item, but for the price that's a minor quibble
I got the Green version that was available here in the US I don't know what the r-value was but at 28 degrees Fahrenheit I froze my ass off. Klymit static v insulated is a good value in a great pad
This is what I was looking for, how it performs in the cold andwhat I expected. Thank you for the feedback.
Looks to be really good value Paul. Bought one of their pillows recently and that seems to be a decent bit of kit (not tested it yet).
Thanks for this great review Paul. I can't wait seeing you out in the mountains!!!
The Exped Schnozzel sack also fits sea to summit sleeping pads 👍
I really like the fact the snozzle works with it. Will be looking out for a longer term review
Great video Paul! Thanks for the upload as I was waiting on buying this until I had your verdict on it! Much appreciated! Congratulations on the great news too! :D
Thanks Paul - you've sold me on this. But I just went to Amazon and its £44 not £35. I'm a noob at this but thinking this still looks like a good starter for a few nights here an there.
This is the coldest pad I've ever slept on. I'd go as far to say its useless out of summer unless you're planning on using it indoors for guests.
What would you recommend instead?
I have made the mistakes of buying loads of sleeping pads trying to save money but trust me when I say some things worth saving for and paying a bit more and getting something at least insulated klymit make good middle of the road for pads but thermarest are considered the best
I got it months back still waiting to take it out, it seems really comfortable. impressive number of camera angles in your vid for it. Dave
Nice one Paul, do love my x-therm xl an have been using it for over 2years now but am always feared about getting a puncture. This is a good viable cheaper alternative I think for the warmer 3 season camps. Some have said in the comments that their thermarests have failed in the past but I cannot see this pad or any inflatable surviving a good pointy thorn,
Nice one, Paul. I hadn't realised they also do a 3/4 length version. I look forward to seeing those proper tests when the laws allow.
Excellent review mate, I have one of their pillow and it’s pretty good! Thanks for sharing
Ash
I’ve just ordered the trekology UL80 along with the pillow and a sea to summit cup thanks to Mr Messner!😁 just starting to buy my camping gear to go wild camping for the first time ever this year 🤞 I think I am going to buy a vango banshee 200 pro for my tent, anyone got any info on this tent before I buy it? Not looking to spend more than £150 for one. Thanks
Nice review Paul thanks, just orded one with your link
Great video Paul. Food for thought anyway. Need a summer alternative to my trusty xtherm xl. Don’t want to break the bank. Good length. Need to find a cheap pump sack though. No way I’m blowing it up after a hike.
Great review Paul - having put 3 holes in my Exped this week 😭due to a camping-in-the-garden 'incident' 🤬, I've been looking for something that I can't roll off. I love my Thermarest and the Alpkit one I have is built like a tank, but I can't stay on the darn things. This looks promising, and a bonus with the Schnozzel 👍🏻Cheers, Paul C.