#1 Toronto, Canada - the Greater Toronto and Hamilton Area has over 7,281,694 people... by comparison the second largest city in Canada Montreal only has (4,291,732 people) and the third largest city in Canada Vancouver only has (2,642,825 people). - Toronto (1st largest city in Canada/US without an NFL team) - Toronto already has NBA, MLB, NHL and MLS teams, and each one of them is top 10 in valuations. - the NFL is MUCH more popular in Toronto than CFL is... - an NFL team in Toronto would be instantly worth $5 Billion dollars... #2 San Antonio or Austin, Texas - there are over 30,503,301 million people in Texas...Texas can 100% support another NFL team, and NO Jerry Jones had no say in 2002 when the Houston Texans joined the NFL...and he will have NO SAY when San Antonio or Austin gets a team. - San Antonio is the 4th largest US city without an NFL team (2,703,999 people) - Austin is the 6th largest US city without an NFL team (2,473,275 people) - these cities are approximately 70 miles apart, the halfway point New Braunfels would be approximately 40-45 minute drive from either San Antonio or Austin - Texas is the most diehard football state...and two MAJOR markets without NFL teams are only 40 minutes apart...that's a no brainer. #3 San Diego, California - the Chargers should have never left California, that was a mistake, LA does not NEED or WANT two NFL teams, and they have demonstrated that they support the Rams, not the Chargers, the Chargers should go back the San Diego-Tijuana/Mexican market is SO MASSIVE to turn down...there are 3.2 million people in San Diego and 2.1 million people in Tijuana....I don't understand why the owner wants to be the second most popular football team in Los Angeles instead of the most popular in San Diego/Mexico - San Diego is the 1st largest US city without an NFL team (3,269,973 people) - Tijuana is across the boarder from San Diego and has an additional (2,157,853 people) - the NFL desperately wants to expand into Mexico, and a team in San Diego gives 2 million Mexicans in Tijuana a team to cheer for, this is the best way to gain interest in Mexico (Mexico City is too high altitude for an NFL team) San Diego would be the PERFECT way to introduce the game to Mexicans...what a missed opportunity #4 St. Louis, Missouri - poor St. Louis, they lost the Cardinals (1987) and the Rams in (2015), they did not deserve to lose the Rams, but Los Angeles was a better market than St. Louis, it doesn't mean St. Louis is a BAD market - St. Louis is the 3rd largest US city without an NFL team 2,796,999 people (only San Diego and Orlando have more people) - why does St. Louis deserve a third team? where else would you go? San Diego and Orlando are the ONLY larger markets in the US without NFL teams, and Florida and California already have 3 NFL teams each.... - St. Louis battlehawks in the XFL averaged 35,104 attendance last year, and averaged 34,365 attendace this year...by comparison the next best attended XFL team only averaged 14,143 people....2.5 times less than St. Louis averages....they LOVE FOOTBALL and they are STARVED FOR PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL - Los Angeles deserves a football team, but San Diego and St. Louis should have never relocated...
Great research and presentation (including format under the inhospitable formatting options given by YT!) I too like Toronto as an expansion spot. Of course I am perhaps somewhat biased, living an hour away from there! But it would work for the reasons you mention and the cultural diversity of the city. There is also enough surrounding area to add support. The NFL could easily pay a subsidy fee to the CFL Toronto team (the Argonauts) for the first few years to help keep them from feeling any brunt. Actually the idea of NFL expansion into Toronto goes way back to the early 70s and yet has been put on hold ever since then. Not dead, as the issue has cropped up several times. However one could say it has been comatose with occasional, brief and rather unremarkable waking moments. Toronto really is the best option for now. Europe is rather distant. As a player, I would not want to set foot into Mexico in this day and age of vile cartels who have no respect for human life. Central America seems economically ludicrous and South America not much better.
I have often wondered why the NFL has never put a team in Canada while all of the other major pro sports leagues have. I would assume they have some sort of deal with the CFL not to expand into their territory.
@@muzikdude1188 the CFL used to be popular and a competitor to the NFL CFL had the original Baltimore team CFL has played and beaten NFL teams in the past But since the 90s, the CFL has stagnated...no growth, no innovation, same boring rules, same boring teams, every. single. year....for decades...yawn At some point in the 90s Troy Aikman became a better sell than the Argonauts. There's more Cowboys fans in Toronto than Bills fans. And from 1988-1995 Bills were dominant. Some people follow the Bills, MOST people in Toronto hate Buffalo with a passion, the city, not the people, because of hockey rivalries. Most people would NEVER support a Buffalo NFL team (like myself), Buffalo is barely even a city. Now there are more NFL fans in Canada than CFL fans. And people in Ontario DO NOT watch CFL at all...three teams and literally nobody cares. Toronto has the worst attendance in the CFL, and the best TV ratings. Largest US city without an NFL team...San Diego (3,276,208) Toronto-Hamilton has twice as many people (7,281,694)
Honestly the Chargers need to go back there. They are a forgotten team and not loved. Another team can be #2 in LA. As far the other six I would go with St Louis Birmingham San Antonio (I said this before you mentioned it... NFL Football would do well there) Portland OKC (Great Football Rivalries with Everyone) Toronto CFL can take a back seat to the NFL Team in Toronto. They can support both. It is a megalopolis
Regionalizing divisions will cut back on fan investment. A Houston Texans fan not only tunes into Houston games but may take some interest in Dallas Cowboys games. Both teams are from the same state and they're not considered rivals, much a lot of times results in a fan still carrying about the performance of both teams. By caring for both teams they also care about a wider range of divisional opponents. This creates more familiarity with a wider base. Come playoff time the fan is less likely to check out whether two teams are out because they're familiarity with a larger number of teams.
You know I spent some time thinking about it and I do not understand this point of view. The NFL is a mainstream league, they do not profit from a casual viewer who MAY tune into an extra playoff game of a nearby team. Regionalizing increases monetary gains from fans who would be more willing to pay higher ticket prices because their travel costs are cheaper. Also, the Cowboys/Texans argument seems pretty specific as they are one of the few in-state duos who aren’t rivals in some capacity.
@@fadercreek Dolphins / Jags are both AFC so there is no logical reason to be in different divisions. Miami fans are supposed to drive to Boston, Buffalo & NY when they could make a road trip to N. Fla.? Putting Cleveland in the AFC went against the logic of splitting the local areas. They could have put Detroit in AFC instead of having both of Paul Browns' Ohio teams together. Relocation keeps the league from putting teams where they want because they're always trying to replace the dislocated cities. Before the NFL there was MLB consisting of 2 Leagues with no inter-league play. The N.L. wanted a NY team after Giants & Dodgers went west & got expansion Mets. Every League wants a presence in every region. The NFL is one league but it honors the AFL with the AFC and TV contracts that primarily assign a network for each conference. The NCAA football conferences are like that too but it has gotten ridiculous with California in the ACC. When Fla St. joined the ACC they could have gotten into the SEC and S. Carolina could have been in the ACC but the conferences wanted to expand their "footprints".
I don’t think there’s enough “untapped” fan base here to justify putting up the money to bring in a team. Everyone here is already a Washington fan, a Baltimore fan or a Cowboys fan. And they are good, committed fans.
One of my picks would be St. Louis because they were screwed out of a franchise not once but twice when both the Cardinals and Rams moved to different cities and States. Also some Highschool soccer teams in my area in Western PA shared the same field as their football teams. I can see that happening at the pro level. I wouldn't go international due to the fact of cultural difference between football and soccer also rugby is also pretty big in Europe as well. I know some things about the CFL like their fields are different and their rules are very different like CFL teams only get 3 downs instead of 4 vs the NFL. I also know some very well known players and Coaches like Bud Grant who used to be an NFL coach of the Vikings who won 3 Grey Cup championships and both Doug Flutie and Warren Moon also played in the CFL and won some Grey Cups as well. However I can't see a merger working because how the fields and rules are very different. It wasn't like the AFL and NFL merger that happened in in 1970. The only rule difference to my knowledge between the AFL and NFL was that the AFL had the 2pt Conversion which the NFL didn't adopt until 1994.
@@raymondhopwood9393 The ABA (American Basketball Association) had a Team in Pittsburgh but that only lasted a few years though. Basketball is not that popular in Pittsburgh unlike Football, Baseball and Hockey.
@@raymondhopwood9393There honestly isn’t much interest in the NBA in St Louis. The Hawks left here for Atlanta in 1968 and there has been no serious push to get another NBA team since then.
Absolutely not!!! The NFL will want us to change The CFL . our field size will need to be smaller . Thety'll want us to go to four downs. wNFL will want us to get rid of the extra man on the field go from 12 to 11. they'll want us to take NFL rules in general that's what makes the CFL unique is our rule set. And big brother will want to take it all away no thank you!!!
my dream expansion: 1: give the chargers back to SD, and force the jets and giants to change to New Jersey, MetLife is an NJ stadium. 2: Long island, if you count Manhattan as LI, already has 2 huge MLB Teams, 2 huge NBA franchises, and 2 huge NHL franchises. just build a stadium and it's perfect, plus a rivalry between upstate in the bills and the island would make straight CASH. 3. Birmingham. 'bama is already the biggest cfb team, fans of the tide will love it. the rest doesn't really matter to me.
the thing about mexico is well tbh none of their cities are safe except for mexico city and cancun which are kinda far from most other nfl teams making it hard to sign fa's and put them at a disadvantage
@@ddog_2559 NOWHERE is safe in Mexico! These cartels get bigger and more vicious and have been expanding into the once safe areas of the country. Not only is safety an issue but these same cartels are pumping in so much hard core drugs into the country (with the aid of Chinese production). No way in hell does Mexico deserve an American league pro sports team to be based in their drug pumping, violent degraded country.
I just moved out of Portland after living there for 5 years and being a delivery Driver in the area for 2 (so i got to see lots of people's yard signs and team decorations). The Seahawks are popular there but far from have a stranglehold on the market, the 9ers are just as popular and there are probably as many random out of market fans as there are Seahawks or 9ers fans. I think a Portland team could take over.
Dude Vancouver has metro population of 3millian to Hamilton's 800,000 My solution here is to add Toronto,Montreal,Vancouver,and Edmonton. Add new CFL teams in VictoriaB.C,London On.,Quebec City,Halifax,and St.John NF.
I can agree to that, as I said in the video removing the team with a copycat name was just a move of convenience, and there was for sure better ways to remove 1 team with more respect to the history of the CFL
Okay, here me out -- * NFL absorbs the Canadian League * Reduces them from nine teams, to eight * Each division gets a Canadian team, ensuring that all teams must travel north
If you want to have intense rivalries with teams closer together, you may want to reduce the prices of tickets. Could teams make games affordable? (40.00 a game?)
I would love to see an European Expansion, inviting the best "soccer teams" in Europe to have their Championship of American Football. The Sport is already quite popular in Germany and England and if the main European Soccer teams agreed to join the competition, it would be a success. A Bayern Munchen fan, a Real Madrid or Barcelona, or Juventus or Milan fans would certainly welcome a competition in which all these teams wouls be represented. Just for simulation purpose, imagine if 32 european teams would be involved in such a tournament: Manchester City, Real Madrid, Bayern Munchen, Liverpool, Roma, PSG, Borussia Dortmund, Chelsea, Inter, Villarreal, Bayer Leverkusen, Manchester United, Barcelona, Benfica, FC Porto, Atletico Madfrid, RB Leipzig, West Ham, Atalanta, Arsenal, Juventus, Milan, Ajax Napoli, Club Brugge, Lazio, Eintracht Frankfurt, Sevilla, Rangers, Feyenoord, Real Sociedad, PSV (these 32 teams are ordered here according to their current UEFA Ranking...). If there was an association of NFL and these teams, what a successful Championship it would be ! Remember, in order to have success with an Euro League you must have the right european teams playimg....
If they want to do Europe, create a separate European league. with a eurpoean superbowl. North American champ plays the European champ for title of best team in the world.
I think this would be too similar to the euro league of the past and would fail for similar reasons. With NFL matchups every week there would be way more viewership than in a league of its own.
@@FranchiseTagged But the travel would be a major problem, which probably can't be overcome. Having just few teams in Europe that have to fly back and forth would at a major disadvantage.
It was called NFL Europa. Kurt Warner and a few others played in it. It was actually somewhat popular in Germany but failed elsewhere. But Germany does have an American football league
The CFL would never allow the Teams of the CFL merge into the NFL, to make the NFL better. The CFL would just say have a nice day. But The NFL could place Teams in Portland, Oregon, Birmingham,Alabama, Omaha, Nebraska, and Salt Lake City, Utah. These 4 Cities don’t have NFL Teams, and would have a better chance of getting the League more across the US map. Forget San Diego, North & South Dakota, Montana, Idaho, not enough people. Iowa, New Mexico, Alaska, Hawaii, Kansas, Oklahoma, Arkansas, South Carolina, Kentucky, West Virginia, Virginia, Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine. All because they don’t have enough people. But, You could relocate some Teams to areas with potential and population, just move some Teams to other places. Florida and California both have more than one Team. Texas, Ohio, Pennsylvania all have 2 Teams. Spread the Teams around for Everyone to get a Team. Just a crazy thought idea for some People who have to travel far just to see Their Teams.
If the NFL absorbs the CFL, it would make sense to take the largest markets, Montreal, Toronto, Vancouver and either Edmonton or Calgary. I don't think an NFL team could work in a small market like Regina or Hamilton unless a Green Bay style public ownership model is used.
The CFL would never accept a merger into the NFL. The game is too steeped in tradition up north. Toronto and Vancouver could support CFL / NFL teams but the rest of the league could not, viably so. Montreal is a legitimate metropolitan city however apart from the their beloved Canadiens NHL team, they have been dicey with their support for other pro teams. Also of note, around 20 years ago, the CFL experimented with incorporating American teams into the league. That failed abysmally and the entire American expansion was dropped after a couple of years. I would love to see the NFL come to Toronto. Toronto could easily support two different football teams just as easily as NY does with hockey, football and baseball or like Chicago with baseball. The NFL could pay subsidy costs to the CFL Argonauts to help compensate in the short term and then a few years later do the same with Vancouver, assuming all goes well in TO which it definitely would!
The Saskatchewan Roughriders already have the same ownership model as the Packers. That said, I wouldn’t want the NFL encroaching on Canada. CFL is a better game; if you grew up watching it, it becomes obvious every time you watch the NFL that the rule changes were put in place to maximize ad space
St louis and San diego seem like the only realistic expansion cities, the broncos, seahawks, and cowboys would not be happy about these potential rivals for the local market.
The issue is that they would have to COMPETE with the Crimson Tide instead of benefiting from them. They’d also have to compete with the already established Birmingham Stallions in the UFL.
1. NO to expanding to St Louis. They FAILED to support (and lost) TWO separate teams: the Cardinals and the Rams. If another Mississippi River area city is desired, perhaps Memphis would be a better bet than St Louis (???) -- and it would create a natural cross-state rivalry with the TN Titans. 2. NOT SURE about whether Portland, OR would support an NFL franchise (especially through thick and thin) ??? -- but it would form a natural rivalry with Seattle and, to a lesser extent, Northern CA / San Francisco (especially now that the Raiders have left Oakland) 3. San Antonio might work -- a huge metropolitan area within football-crazed Texas. Also, both FL and CA have 3 teams each as well. 4. NOT SURE about OK City either ... an NFL team there MIGHT come at the expense of support for OU college football ??? 5. NOT SURE about the viability of an NFL merger with (assimilation of) the CFL. Canadian football is different somewhat, the people are rightly proud of their game, and belonging to the NFL would instantaneously drive DRASTICALLY HIGHER COSTS (salaries, operating expenses, ticket prices, merchandise, etc.) that I'm NOT SURE Canadians would embrace or support. SOME Golden Horseshoe area Canadians do indeed have Bills season tickets and attend most games -- BUT MOST Canadians who attend Bills games (and endure the border crossing hassle) do so as a "special" venture just a few times per season (and some just once per season) because ticket and parking prices alone (i.e., not including food/snacks, beverages, souvenirs, etc.) to an NFL game are NOT INEXPENSIVE -- especially for a family outing of parents and a couple of kids. So I'm not sure if -- economically speaking -- enough Canadian families would be able or willing to trade in their CFL team support experiences for a significantly more costly NFL one with the same frequency ??? I would think that it would be a much greater challenge in cities other than the largest cities in Canada such as Toronto, Montreal, and Vancouver. 6. "IF" there is ever going to be an "assimilation" of the CFL into the NFL, there would be a SIGNIFICANT problem with having three teams within 120 miles of each other on the Niagara Frontier -- Buffalo, Hamilton, and Toronto (not to mention the indemnification costs Buffalo would be owed for placing another franchise [or two] in direct competition with it so close within its economic sphere). I believe such an arrangement would cause at least one team to fail financially -- probably Hamilton (caught in the middle between Buffalo and Toronto). But having even 1 new team that geographically close to SMALL-MARKET Buffalo would definitely HURT Buffalo financially (a doubly important consideration now because the Bills are building a massively expensive new stadium whose costs will have to be paid off as well -- unlike their present stadium which is debt-free) because the Bills draw MANY Canadian fans from Toronto, Hamilton, and the Niagara Peninsula. Such being the case, IF one CFL team would be dropped to make for an even "8" Canadian expansion teams, it might make better sense to fold the Hamilton Tiger Cats to create/ensure a little space between Buffalo and Toronto (although I'm sure Tiger Cat fans will NOT like losing their team), and preserve the BC Lions thereby setting up another natural cross-border rivalry between Seattle and Vancouver the same way there would be one between Buffalo and Toronto (maybe have BC change their name to the Lynx, the Cougars, the Cats, etc. so as to not be confused with Detroit ... although for many years the CFL had TWO "Roughriders" teams -- Saskatchewan and Ottawa [before the Ottawa Roughriders folded and a new team eventually arose in Ottawa called the present-day RedBlacks], so it's not completely unheard of that two franchises might have the same team name/mascot). With 8 Canadian teams bringing the NFL to an even 40 teams, there would then be 20 teams in each conference (American and National) ... which could result in making 4 divisions of 5 teams each per conference, and maybe expanding the playoffs to 10 teams per conference (the 4 division winners plus the top 2 next teams not winning a division qualify for a bye week to start the playoffs, and the Wild card round consists of teams # 7 through #10 of the conference; the two winners of the 4 teams in each conference playing during Wild Card weekend then get added to the 6 bye week teams for an 8-team second round bracket in each conference (#1 plays #8, #2 plays #7, and so forth). 7. Better yet, if there is a genuine desire to "expand" the NFL to 40 teams (which I think would be its bursting point because a larger league would simply be too unwieldy), at least in the short term it makes MUCH MORE SENSE to do so very cautiously, especially if we're talking about internationally. As such, I think it would make much more sense to do so with only 1 or at most 2 teams from Canada -- at least for an initial decade or two -- to see just how viable the support would be long-term. Also, doing it that way would be less offensive to Canadians because it would NOT mean destroying their independent CFL and merely adding an NFL franchise as an additional option to support. As such,the singular city that makes the most sense would be Toronto -- Canada's largest city with a population and corporate base more than large enough to support both a CFL and NFL team (of course, an NFL team in Toronto WOULD threaten small-market Buffalo economically and would require indemnification). It would be a real shame if the NFL's desire to expand internationally, starting first with a Canadian franchise in Toronto, would ultimately lead to the economic failure and relocation of the Buffalo Bills with its TERRIFIC fan base. "IF" market studies show that Seattle also has a large Canadian fan base supporting the Seahawks, then I would also consider placing a second Canadian NFL franchise in Vancouver (but no more than 2 Canadian teams to start) ... and that, too, would raise indemnification issues because of the proximity to Seattle's exclusive rights zone. Next, since the owner of the Jacksonville Jaguars loves going to London so much, I think it MIGHT be worth exploring having a "split" franchise between Jacksonville and London to start. Maybe the first half of the season would be London-based games, and the second half of the season (when the weather cools and hurricane season ends in FL) could be Jacksonville-based. The risk, of course, is that IF the Jaguars are non-competitive at the half-way point of the season, it might be hard to generate fan support restarting in Jacksonville for a losing team.
As a european it will be niceto have a NFL Team(s), but I remember the World League of American Football.A League that Had 10 Teams.3 Teams in Europe (London , Frankfurt, Barcelona.) 1 in Canada ( Montreal) and 6 in the USA ( Orlando , Birmingham Sacramento,San Antonio,New Jersey.and Raleigh Durham) The logistic was a great mess and mayhem.Sacramento fly for a Game in Frankfurt through 9 timezones. The european Team are 4 weeks to play abroad in North America Which Player will Play in a country where great language barrier is?!A Division with only 4 Teams are much to Low .Every Team have 6 Games in Europe,and then? they Go abroad to US 5 or 6 Weeks( When a european Division added by NFL you will be have 20-24 gamedays)Where do the Teams make practice? Or 1week in Europe and 1 week in the USA .? As a Frequent Flyer I know the Jetlags You have lower recreationtime.than a US based team. Sorry it will be a bad Idea. TV times are a mess its a minimum of 6 hours to europe 1 pm eastern time is 7 pm MESZ. Thats O.K.but the second Timeslot 4 25 Is 10 25 pm in europe,or will you see a game at 7am eastern in the US ?
The NFL already has about three games in London so it makes sense to have a team in London. Stateside, Oklahoma City is a huge candidate. OKC is growing quickly and is developing at a blistering pace. OKC is an obvious choice
We agree, but realistically money will always be motivator for the NFL and they will seek to expand revenue, this was just a fun hypothetical while NFL news is extremely slow
They should split the Carolinas, also side note but if they do expand I’d like the Carolinas to change their name/logo, the panthers is kinda boring and doesn’t have much to do with their region. Commanders is also lame.
Need to swap a Great Lakes and Canada divisions between conferences so each has simply a Great Lakes division and a Canada division. Some rivalries are too iconic to break up. Eagles fans traditionally loathe the Cowboys. Yet I seem to recall the Cowboys consider the G-men to be their biggest rival. Under his alignment these teams might not meet every year. Send the Colts to the NE and TitansSouth. On the other hand the schedule works out better for a 17 game schedule: Divisional games 3 X 2 = 6 1 game with each team in another division within the conference 1 X 4 = 4 1 game with each team in another division within the other conference 1 X 4 = 4 1 game v 1 team within the remaining divisions of the same conference 1 X 3 = 3 ………………………………………………………………………………………………….. total ….. 17
I didn’t even consider the math of the scheduling, so seeing this is pretty cool. Goes to show that the NFL can definitely expand without “ruining the game” as a lot of people seem to think these days
@ Of course greed is pushing for an 18 game regular season. Right now 17 games would seem to mean some teams have 9 home games and others 8. The exception are those games in Europe, Mexico & South America or some other neutral venue.
It has been 22 years since a re-alignment, and in that time the NFL has had extreme growth during that time, I feel that it’s enough time for a new alignment.
San Antonio is the second largest city in Texas and deserves a professional football team. They would have had one if not for the damned Cowboys. It is a travesty that they do not. St. Louis is also deserving. International does not make sense unless it is Canada but then where. I doubt that the CFL and the NFL would work due to the difference in rules.
St Louis & SA are only viable spots. I lived in SA for 15 years . The reason for those open US areas is because of income & population in those areas. Not enough money to spend or people in the open areas to support the team 🤷♀️ Best areas to consider who be analyze median income and elites to pay luxury box $
Mexico City....; huge city and metro area, and already have a big stadium. St. Louis MO. The San Antonio Alamo Dome is NOT a huge stadium...; would San Antonio support an NFL team? Oklahoma City is between 2 hotbeds of college football, and OK City only has about 680,000 population; not very big for a NFL team (Green Bay is an exception).
They should add the redskins back as an expansion team in OKC. have a "trail of tears stadium". Lmao. Let washington keep the commanders. Kinda like the ravens browns ordeal. But more historical. I could see the commercial adds for the football team. Narrator "one time in history, native Americans were moved from the east coast to Oklahoma reservations. Brought along the trial of tears. Now, like the days of old, the redskins will be brought to Oklahoma. Gatorades new state of the art trail of tears stadium... redskins, Oklahoma, it just makes since". Lol
Good Lord, NO EXPANSION PLEASE! The NFL as at an all time low for greatness right now. Not enough QBs or OL to go around at 32 teams and you want to water down the talent pool even more and stretch the demand for what exists? Please I beg of all the greed mongers out there....think about what you'd be proposing! We don't need more teams, we need to contract and we don't need teams in Europe or hard to get to places. Please tell me the greed doesn't blind them to the point that they don't see this. Rant over......dream on about Canada being in the NFL. I see topics like this every so often. It's cute.
San Diego deserves to be back in the NFL it was wrong what dean Spanos did to San Diego that was not right even though the chargers started off in L.A. city of San Diego never had a NFL team to call their own It was wrong what happened to the city of San Diego not right San Diego deserves to be back in the NFL !
Dream on. The city actually feels pretty good about not being held hostage by greedy owners of the NFL and have not been shy about making it known. As soon as the Chargers last game was played, they gutting the stadium and tore it down. I think the Aztecs have a smaller stadium there now. SD is not in the league and they're not crying about it. They moved on. Maybe you all should too?
@FranchiseTagged nah not hating. I liked the video and liked the idea. Oddly enough back in the 90s the CFL had 2 rough riders. Saskatchewan and ottawa. Lol. Why can't the NFL have 2 lions? Lol Anyways good video and keep up the good work. 😀
NAH ROCHESTER, CANANDAIGUA, GENEVA, GREECE, AND FAIRPORT DEFINITELY NEEDS A NFL TEAM CAUSE IT'LL MAKE MORE SENSE ATP SINCE NONE OF THESE CITIES HAVE A PRO SPORTS TEAM DUH LOL 💯.
@@FranchiseTagged BUT I'M NGL WITH ALL DUE TO RESPECT BRO THE LIONS ARE UNDERRATED IMO, AS MUCH AS I DON'T LIKE MY DIVISION TEAM WHICH IS YOU GUYS, THE VIKINGS AND THE BEARS OFC, I REALLY HATE AND CAN'T STAND THE 49ERS MOREE FOR A REASON EVEN THOUGH 💯, AND WAS PERSONALLY HOPING THAT YOU GUYS WOULD'VE WON AGAINST THEM IN THE NFC CHAMPIONSHIP🏆LAST SEASON LMAO.
Your funny, delusional thoughts. The nfl has been in talks before about joining the nfl and only 3 cities in Canada and the 3 are Vancouver, Montreal and Toronto but the biggest problem is the CFL has one of the biggest historical history as a league and goes way back and the NFL doesn’t want to be responsible for dismantling the league and that’s why they didn’t join. If you don’t believe me then do a research and p.s the reason why the 3 cities in Canada is because of the money and size and if you look at the other city’s they will not be able to afford with what sponsors
NFL should NOT EXPAND- just going to dilute the product- hope it doesn't happen- and PLEASE don't go international- LOGISTICS???? pain in the ass for ALL involved
People always text about placing a NFL Team in Canada, but it’s not going to happen, for one Main Reason, The CFL, doesn’t want any NFL Teams permanently playing in Canada.
Won't happen cuz that was already said he won't go to Canada as long as the CFL is in Toronto and Vancouver it's one of those teams should fold then it's possible. But both are owned by large corporations the Argos are owned by Maple Leaf Sports entertainment. Well the lions are owned privately and has Deep Pockets
#1 Toronto, Canada - the Greater Toronto and Hamilton Area has over 7,281,694 people...
by comparison the second largest city in Canada Montreal only has (4,291,732 people) and the third largest city in Canada Vancouver only has (2,642,825 people).
- Toronto (1st largest city in Canada/US without an NFL team)
- Toronto already has NBA, MLB, NHL and MLS teams, and each one of them is top 10 in valuations.
- the NFL is MUCH more popular in Toronto than CFL is...
- an NFL team in Toronto would be instantly worth $5 Billion dollars...
#2 San Antonio or Austin, Texas - there are over 30,503,301 million people in Texas...Texas can 100% support another NFL team, and NO Jerry Jones had no say in 2002 when the Houston Texans joined the NFL...and he will have NO SAY when San Antonio or Austin gets a team.
- San Antonio is the 4th largest US city without an NFL team (2,703,999 people)
- Austin is the 6th largest US city without an NFL team (2,473,275 people)
- these cities are approximately 70 miles apart, the halfway point New Braunfels would be approximately 40-45 minute drive from either San Antonio or Austin
- Texas is the most diehard football state...and two MAJOR markets without NFL teams are only 40 minutes apart...that's a no brainer.
#3 San Diego, California - the Chargers should have never left California, that was a mistake, LA does not NEED or WANT two NFL teams, and they have demonstrated that they support the Rams, not the Chargers, the Chargers should go back the San Diego-Tijuana/Mexican market is SO MASSIVE to turn down...there are 3.2 million people in San Diego and 2.1 million people in Tijuana....I don't understand why the owner wants to be the second most popular football team in Los Angeles instead of the most popular in San Diego/Mexico
- San Diego is the 1st largest US city without an NFL team (3,269,973 people)
- Tijuana is across the boarder from San Diego and has an additional (2,157,853 people)
- the NFL desperately wants to expand into Mexico, and a team in San Diego gives 2 million Mexicans in Tijuana a team to cheer for, this is the best way to gain interest in Mexico (Mexico City is too high altitude for an NFL team) San Diego would be the PERFECT way to introduce the game to Mexicans...what a missed opportunity
#4 St. Louis, Missouri - poor St. Louis, they lost the Cardinals (1987) and the Rams in (2015), they did not deserve to lose the Rams, but Los Angeles was a better market than St. Louis, it doesn't mean St. Louis is a BAD market
- St. Louis is the 3rd largest US city without an NFL team 2,796,999 people (only San Diego and Orlando have more people)
- why does St. Louis deserve a third team? where else would you go? San Diego and Orlando are the ONLY larger markets in the US without NFL teams, and Florida and California already have 3 NFL teams each....
- St. Louis battlehawks in the XFL averaged 35,104 attendance last year, and averaged 34,365 attendace this year...by comparison the next best attended XFL team only averaged 14,143 people....2.5 times less than St. Louis averages....they LOVE FOOTBALL and they are STARVED FOR PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL
- Los Angeles deserves a football team, but San Diego and St. Louis should have never relocated...
Great research and presentation (including format under the inhospitable formatting options given by YT!) I too like Toronto as an expansion spot. Of course I am perhaps somewhat biased, living an hour away from there! But it would work for the reasons you mention and the cultural diversity of the city. There is also enough surrounding area to add support. The NFL could easily pay a subsidy fee to the CFL Toronto team (the Argonauts) for the first few years to help keep them from feeling any brunt.
Actually the idea of NFL expansion into Toronto goes way back to the early 70s and yet has been put on hold ever since then. Not dead, as the issue has cropped up several times. However one could say it has been comatose with occasional, brief and rather unremarkable waking moments.
Toronto really is the best option for now. Europe is rather distant. As a player, I would not want to set foot into Mexico in this day and age of vile cartels who have no respect for human life. Central America seems economically ludicrous and South America not much better.
I have often wondered why the NFL has never put a team in Canada while all of the other major pro sports leagues have. I would assume they have some sort of deal with the CFL not to expand into their territory.
@@muzikdude1188 the CFL used to be popular and a competitor to the NFL
CFL had the original Baltimore team
CFL has played and beaten NFL teams in the past
But since the 90s, the CFL has stagnated...no growth, no innovation, same boring rules, same boring teams, every. single. year....for decades...yawn
At some point in the 90s Troy Aikman became a better sell than the Argonauts.
There's more Cowboys fans in Toronto than Bills fans.
And from 1988-1995 Bills were dominant.
Some people follow the Bills, MOST people in Toronto hate Buffalo with a passion, the city, not the people, because of hockey rivalries. Most people would NEVER support a Buffalo NFL team (like myself), Buffalo is barely even a city.
Now there are more NFL fans in Canada than CFL fans. And people in Ontario DO NOT watch CFL at all...three teams and literally nobody cares. Toronto has the worst attendance in the CFL, and the best TV ratings.
Largest US city without an NFL team...San Diego (3,276,208)
Toronto-Hamilton has twice as many people (7,281,694)
Canada has its own football league
San Diego needs a NFL team again
Facts, however with how saturated the California market is, I’m not sure it’ll be anytime soon
@@FranchiseTagged California as a market is a mess right now now
@dreamcage1801 San Diego Seals
@@ericrizojkd yes
Honestly the Chargers need to go back there. They are a forgotten team and not loved. Another team can be #2 in LA.
As far the other six I would go with
St Louis
Birmingham
San Antonio (I said this before you mentioned it... NFL Football would do well there)
Portland
OKC (Great Football Rivalries with Everyone)
Toronto
CFL can take a back seat to the NFL Team in Toronto. They can support both. It is a megalopolis
Regionalizing divisions will cut back on fan investment. A Houston Texans fan not only tunes into Houston games but may take some interest in Dallas Cowboys games. Both teams are from the same state and they're not considered rivals, much a lot of times results in a fan still carrying about the performance of both teams. By caring for both teams they also care about a wider range of divisional opponents. This creates more familiarity with a wider base. Come playoff time the fan is less likely to check out whether two teams are out because they're familiarity with a larger number of teams.
You know I spent some time thinking about it and I do not understand this point of view. The NFL is a mainstream league, they do not profit from a casual viewer who MAY tune into an extra playoff game of a nearby team. Regionalizing increases monetary gains from fans who would be more willing to pay higher ticket prices because their travel costs are cheaper. Also, the Cowboys/Texans argument seems pretty specific as they are one of the few in-state duos who aren’t rivals in some capacity.
Eagles vs steelers, giants vs jets, Texans vs cowboys, rams vs chargers, buccs vs dolphins vs jaguars, would make the nfl crazy money
@@fadercreek Dolphins / Jags are both AFC so there is no logical reason to be in different divisions. Miami fans are supposed to drive to Boston, Buffalo & NY when they could make a road trip to N. Fla.? Putting Cleveland in the AFC went against the logic of splitting the local areas. They could have put Detroit in AFC instead of having both of Paul Browns' Ohio teams together. Relocation keeps the league from putting teams where they want because they're always trying to replace the dislocated cities. Before the NFL there was MLB consisting of 2 Leagues with no inter-league play. The N.L. wanted a NY team after Giants & Dodgers went west & got expansion Mets. Every League wants a presence in every region. The NFL is one league but it honors the AFL with the AFC and TV contracts that primarily assign a network for each conference. The NCAA football conferences are like that too but it has gotten ridiculous with California in the ACC. When Fla St. joined the ACC they could have gotten into the SEC and S. Carolina could have been in the ACC but the conferences wanted to expand their "footprints".
13:26 the CFL has a proud history of teams ending up in the same league with the same name. Look up the Ottawa Rough Riders
Two places where you could have an NFL team: Boise, Idaho and Iowa City, Iowa
I know Virginia won’t get an nfl team, but they need some kind of professional sports team, like they have NOTHING
Virginia just has to be willing to compete they'd have to front money for the infrastructure most likely
I don’t think there’s enough “untapped” fan base here to justify putting up the money to bring in a team. Everyone here is already a Washington fan, a Baltimore fan or a Cowboys fan. And they are good, committed fans.
Does Virginia not claim the Commanders? I get the whole “District” thing but is there a distinction there really?
@@FranchiseTagged 90% of Virginia football fans are not commanders fans
I live in Virginia we don’t have big cities here that can support a big 4 sports team except Norfolk they can definitely support a nba team
One of my picks would be St. Louis because they were screwed out of a franchise not once but twice when both the Cardinals and Rams moved to different cities and States. Also some Highschool soccer teams in my area in Western PA shared the same field as their football teams. I can see that happening at the pro level. I wouldn't go international due to the fact of cultural difference between football and soccer also rugby is also pretty big in Europe as well.
I know some things about the CFL like their fields are different and their rules are very different like CFL teams only get 3 downs instead of 4 vs the NFL. I also know some very well known players and Coaches like Bud Grant who used to be an NFL coach of the Vikings who won 3 Grey Cup championships and both Doug Flutie and Warren Moon also played in the CFL and won some Grey Cups as well. However I can't see a merger working because how the fields and rules are very different. It wasn't like the AFL and NFL merger that happened in in 1970. The only rule difference to my knowledge between the AFL and NFL was that the AFL had the 2pt Conversion which the NFL didn't adopt until 1994.
St.Louis has been promised one, I could see Oklahoma city but I'm not sure where the others will go
St Louis should also be considered if the NBA does further expansion, along with Pittsburgh.
@@raymondhopwood9393 The ABA (American Basketball Association) had a Team in Pittsburgh but that only lasted a few years though. Basketball is not that popular in Pittsburgh unlike Football, Baseball and Hockey.
@@raymondhopwood9393There honestly isn’t much interest in the NBA in St Louis. The Hawks left here for Atlanta in 1968 and there has been no serious push to get another NBA team since then.
Absolutely not!!! The NFL will want us to change The CFL . our field size will need to be smaller . Thety'll want us to go to four downs. wNFL will want us to get rid of the extra man on the field go from 12 to 11. they'll want us to take NFL rules in general that's what makes the CFL unique is our rule set. And big brother will want to take it all away no thank you!!!
my dream expansion:
1: give the chargers back to SD, and force the jets and giants to change to New Jersey, MetLife is an NJ stadium.
2: Long island, if you count Manhattan as LI, already has 2 huge MLB Teams, 2 huge NBA franchises, and 2 huge NHL franchises. just build a stadium and it's perfect, plus a rivalry between upstate in the bills and the island would make straight CASH.
3. Birmingham. 'bama is already the biggest cfb team, fans of the tide will love it.
the rest doesn't really matter to me.
I’d love to see the nfl have two Canadian teams, Vancouver and Toronto. If it wasn’t for the sorry cfl this might have happened already
yeah the nfl should expand to Mexico largest fan base outside of us
Mexico and Canada each getting two teams would be fun to see
the thing about mexico is well tbh none of their cities are safe except for mexico city and cancun which are kinda far from most other nfl teams making it hard to sign fa's and put them at a disadvantage
@@ddog_2559 NOWHERE is safe in Mexico! These cartels get bigger and more vicious and have been expanding into the once safe areas of the country. Not only is safety an issue but these same cartels are pumping in so much hard core drugs into the country (with the aid of Chinese production). No way in hell does Mexico deserve an American league pro sports team to be based in their drug pumping, violent degraded country.
Monterrey is safe.
Portland Oregon needs a team. We sell out all our Blazers and Timbers games and they're not even good.
it's Seahawks territory don't think that would ever happen
I just moved out of Portland after living there for 5 years and being a delivery Driver in the area for 2 (so i got to see lots of people's yard signs and team decorations). The Seahawks are popular there but far from have a stranglehold on the market, the 9ers are just as popular and there are probably as many random out of market fans as there are Seahawks or 9ers fans. I think a Portland team could take over.
Dude Vancouver has metro population of 3millian to Hamilton's 800,000 My solution here is to add Toronto,Montreal,Vancouver,and Edmonton. Add new CFL teams in VictoriaB.C,London On.,Quebec City,Halifax,and St.John NF.
when the NFL had created European league, they should have NFL teams play against them to build up more interests.
Sacrificing a team in Vancouver is a horrible idea. Vancouver is a way better market than Hamilton. Just change the Lions name there
I can agree to that, as I said in the video removing the team with a copycat name was just a move of convenience, and there was for sure better ways to remove 1 team with more respect to the history of the CFL
Okay, here me out --
* NFL absorbs the Canadian League
* Reduces them from nine teams, to eight
* Each division gets a Canadian team, ensuring that all teams must travel north
If you want to have intense rivalries with teams closer together, you may want to reduce the prices of tickets. Could teams make games affordable? (40.00 a game?)
I would love to see an European Expansion, inviting the best "soccer teams" in Europe to have their Championship of American Football. The Sport is already quite popular in Germany and England and if the main European Soccer teams agreed to join the competition, it would be a success. A Bayern Munchen fan, a Real Madrid or Barcelona, or Juventus or Milan fans would certainly welcome a competition in which all these teams wouls be represented. Just for simulation purpose, imagine if 32 european teams would be involved in such a tournament: Manchester City, Real Madrid, Bayern Munchen, Liverpool, Roma, PSG, Borussia Dortmund, Chelsea, Inter, Villarreal, Bayer Leverkusen, Manchester United, Barcelona, Benfica, FC Porto, Atletico Madfrid, RB Leipzig, West Ham, Atalanta, Arsenal, Juventus, Milan, Ajax Napoli, Club Brugge, Lazio, Eintracht Frankfurt, Sevilla, Rangers, Feyenoord, Real Sociedad, PSV (these 32 teams are ordered here according to their current UEFA Ranking...). If there was an association of NFL and these teams, what a successful Championship it would be ! Remember, in order to have success with an Euro League you must have the right european teams playimg....
If they want to do Europe, create a separate European league. with a eurpoean superbowl. North American champ plays the European champ for title of best team in the world.
In my opinion, Salt Lake looks like it's gearing up for an NFL franchise
I think this would be too similar to the euro league of the past and would fail for similar reasons. With NFL matchups every week there would be way more viewership than in a league of its own.
@@FranchiseTagged But the travel would be a major problem, which probably can't be overcome. Having just few teams in Europe that have to fly back and forth would at a major disadvantage.
They tried that twice it failed
It was called NFL Europa. Kurt Warner and a few others played in it. It was actually somewhat popular in Germany but failed elsewhere. But Germany does have an American football league
Providence Park in Portland, OR gas a capacity of 25k. Its not even suitable as a temp stadium. They might play in Eugene for a year.
The falcons share a stadium with atlanta united, so theres alr a team that shares with soccer so its def possible
The CFL would never allow the Teams of the CFL merge into the NFL, to make the NFL better. The CFL would just say have a nice day. But The NFL could place Teams in Portland, Oregon, Birmingham,Alabama, Omaha, Nebraska, and Salt Lake City, Utah. These 4 Cities don’t have NFL Teams, and would have a better chance of getting the League more across the US map. Forget San Diego, North & South Dakota, Montana, Idaho, not enough people. Iowa, New Mexico, Alaska, Hawaii, Kansas, Oklahoma, Arkansas, South Carolina, Kentucky, West Virginia, Virginia, Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine. All because they don’t have enough people. But, You could relocate some Teams to areas with potential and population, just move some Teams to other places. Florida and California both have more than one Team. Texas, Ohio, Pennsylvania all have 2 Teams. Spread the Teams around for Everyone to get a Team. Just a crazy thought idea for some People who have to travel far just to see Their Teams.
If the NFL absorbs the CFL, it would make sense to take the largest markets, Montreal, Toronto, Vancouver and either Edmonton or Calgary. I don't think an NFL team could work in a small market like Regina or Hamilton unless a Green Bay style public ownership model is used.
The CFL would never accept a merger into the NFL. The game is too steeped in tradition up north. Toronto and Vancouver could support CFL / NFL teams but the rest of the league could not, viably so. Montreal is a legitimate metropolitan city however apart from the their beloved Canadiens NHL team, they have been dicey with their support for other pro teams.
Also of note, around 20 years ago, the CFL experimented with incorporating American teams into the league. That failed abysmally and the entire American expansion was dropped after a couple of years.
I would love to see the NFL come to Toronto. Toronto could easily support two different football teams just as easily as NY does with hockey, football and baseball or like Chicago with baseball. The NFL could pay subsidy costs to the CFL Argonauts to help compensate in the short term and then a few years later do the same with Vancouver, assuming all goes well in TO which it definitely would!
The Saskatchewan Roughriders already have the same ownership model as the Packers.
That said, I wouldn’t want the NFL encroaching on Canada. CFL is a better game; if you grew up watching it, it becomes obvious every time you watch the NFL that the rule changes were put in place to maximize ad space
Toronto and Vancouver have a tough time attracting free agents because of taxes. Montreal is absolute poison for free agents.
St louis and San diego seem like the only realistic expansion cities, the broncos, seahawks, and cowboys would not be happy about these potential rivals for the local market.
How About The San Antonio Oilers
I think that the Texans and the Titans would have some words for you
The Titans are the oilers. The Titans even wear oiler jerseys for their throwback uniforms and the Texans are not happy about it
I think maybe Birmingham Alabama needs an nfl team considering the university of Alabama
Never happen. College fans and NFL fans are different breeds. Bedside, how many USFL, XFL or whatever teams have failed there.
The issue is that they would have to COMPETE with the Crimson Tide instead of benefiting from them. They’d also have to compete with the already established Birmingham Stallions in the UFL.
Forget it! No Trump voting state deserves anything!
The Kansas City Area has never supported an NBA team with Lawerence KS and KU so close. I think this would be a similar situation to Alabama
I would put 1 team in either Toronto, or Vancouver since there are a lot of Canadian fans already.
I think even South Carolina could get a team
They have one, the Carolina Panthers. They played in Clemson for a couple of years.
1. NO to expanding to St Louis. They FAILED to support (and lost) TWO separate teams: the Cardinals and the Rams. If another Mississippi River area city is desired, perhaps Memphis would be a better bet than St Louis (???) -- and it would create a natural cross-state rivalry with the TN Titans.
2. NOT SURE about whether Portland, OR would support an NFL franchise (especially through thick and thin) ??? -- but it would form a natural rivalry with Seattle and, to a lesser extent, Northern CA / San Francisco (especially now that the Raiders have left Oakland)
3. San Antonio might work -- a huge metropolitan area within football-crazed Texas. Also, both FL and CA have 3 teams each as well.
4. NOT SURE about OK City either ... an NFL team there MIGHT come at the expense of support for OU college football ???
5. NOT SURE about the viability of an NFL merger with (assimilation of) the CFL. Canadian football is different somewhat, the people are rightly proud of their game, and belonging to the NFL would instantaneously drive DRASTICALLY HIGHER COSTS (salaries, operating expenses, ticket prices, merchandise, etc.) that I'm NOT SURE Canadians would embrace or support. SOME Golden Horseshoe area Canadians do indeed have Bills season tickets and attend most games -- BUT MOST Canadians who attend Bills games (and endure the border crossing hassle) do so as a "special" venture just a few times per season (and some just once per season) because ticket and parking prices alone (i.e., not including food/snacks, beverages, souvenirs, etc.) to an NFL game are NOT INEXPENSIVE -- especially for a family outing of parents and a couple of kids. So I'm not sure if -- economically speaking -- enough Canadian families would be able or willing to trade in their CFL team support experiences for a significantly more costly NFL one with the same frequency ??? I would think that it would be a much greater challenge in cities other than the largest cities in Canada such as Toronto, Montreal, and Vancouver.
6. "IF" there is ever going to be an "assimilation" of the CFL into the NFL, there would be a SIGNIFICANT problem with having three teams within 120 miles of each other on the Niagara Frontier -- Buffalo, Hamilton, and Toronto (not to mention the indemnification costs Buffalo would be owed for placing another franchise [or two] in direct competition with it so close within its economic sphere). I believe such an arrangement would cause at least one team to fail financially -- probably Hamilton (caught in the middle between Buffalo and Toronto). But having even 1 new team that geographically close to SMALL-MARKET Buffalo would definitely HURT Buffalo financially (a doubly important consideration now because the Bills are building a massively expensive new stadium whose costs will have to be paid off as well -- unlike their present stadium which is debt-free) because the Bills draw MANY Canadian fans from Toronto, Hamilton, and the Niagara Peninsula. Such being the case, IF one CFL team would be dropped to make for an even "8" Canadian expansion teams, it might make better sense to fold the Hamilton Tiger Cats to create/ensure a little space between Buffalo and Toronto (although I'm sure Tiger Cat fans will NOT like losing their team), and preserve the BC Lions thereby setting up another natural cross-border rivalry between Seattle and Vancouver the same way there would be one between Buffalo and Toronto (maybe have BC change their name to the Lynx, the Cougars, the Cats, etc. so as to not be confused with Detroit ... although for many years the CFL had TWO "Roughriders" teams -- Saskatchewan and Ottawa [before the Ottawa Roughriders folded and a new team eventually arose in Ottawa called the present-day RedBlacks], so it's not completely unheard of that two franchises might have the same team name/mascot). With 8 Canadian teams bringing the NFL to an even 40 teams, there would then be 20 teams in each conference (American and National) ... which could result in making 4 divisions of 5 teams each per conference, and maybe expanding the playoffs to 10 teams per conference (the 4 division winners plus the top 2 next teams not winning a division qualify for a bye week to start the playoffs, and the Wild card round consists of teams # 7 through #10 of the conference; the two winners of the 4 teams in each conference playing during Wild Card weekend then get added to the 6 bye week teams for an 8-team second round bracket in each conference (#1 plays #8, #2 plays #7, and so forth).
7. Better yet, if there is a genuine desire to "expand" the NFL to 40 teams (which I think would be its bursting point because a larger league would simply be too unwieldy), at least in the short term it makes MUCH MORE SENSE to do so very cautiously, especially if we're talking about internationally. As such, I think it would make much more sense to do so with only 1 or at most 2 teams from Canada -- at least for an initial decade or two -- to see just how viable the support would be long-term. Also, doing it that way would be less offensive to Canadians because it would NOT mean destroying their independent CFL and merely adding an NFL franchise as an additional option to support. As such,the singular city that makes the most sense would be Toronto -- Canada's largest city with a population and corporate base more than large enough to support both a CFL and NFL team (of course, an NFL team in Toronto WOULD threaten small-market Buffalo economically and would require indemnification). It would be a real shame if the NFL's desire to expand internationally, starting first with a Canadian franchise in Toronto, would ultimately lead to the economic failure and relocation of the Buffalo Bills with its TERRIFIC fan base. "IF" market studies show that Seattle also has a large Canadian fan base supporting the Seahawks, then I would also consider placing a second Canadian NFL franchise in Vancouver (but no more than 2 Canadian teams to start) ... and that, too, would raise indemnification issues because of the proximity to Seattle's exclusive rights zone. Next, since the owner of the Jacksonville Jaguars loves going to London so much, I think it MIGHT be worth exploring having a "split" franchise between Jacksonville and London to start. Maybe the first half of the season would be London-based games, and the second half of the season (when the weather cools and hurricane season ends in FL) could be Jacksonville-based. The risk, of course, is that IF the Jaguars are non-competitive at the half-way point of the season, it might be hard to generate fan support restarting in Jacksonville for a losing team.
Portland, San Antonio, Birmingham, St. Louis, Hampton Roads, Oklahoma City, Salt Lake City, and Toronto.
Or, if the NFL adds a team as stated before, the CFL could merge with all teams. Great topic regardless.
As a european it will be niceto have a NFL Team(s), but I remember the World League of American Football.A League that Had 10 Teams.3 Teams in Europe (London , Frankfurt, Barcelona.) 1 in Canada ( Montreal) and 6 in the USA ( Orlando , Birmingham Sacramento,San Antonio,New Jersey.and Raleigh Durham) The logistic was a great mess and mayhem.Sacramento fly for a Game in Frankfurt through 9 timezones. The european Team are 4 weeks to play abroad in North America Which Player will Play in a country where great language barrier is?!A Division with only 4 Teams are much to Low .Every Team have 6 Games in Europe,and then? they Go abroad to US 5 or 6 Weeks( When a european Division added by NFL you will be have 20-24 gamedays)Where do the Teams make practice? Or 1week in Europe and 1 week in the USA .? As a Frequent Flyer I know the Jetlags You have lower recreationtime.than a US based team. Sorry it will be a bad Idea. TV times are a mess its a minimum of 6 hours to europe 1 pm eastern time is 7 pm MESZ. Thats O.K.but the second Timeslot 4 25 Is 10 25 pm in europe,or will you see a game at 7am eastern in the US ?
The NFL already has about three games in London so it makes sense to have a team in London. Stateside, Oklahoma City is a huge candidate. OKC is growing quickly and is developing at a blistering pace. OKC is an obvious choice
It’s perfect right now leave it alone
We agree, but realistically money will always be motivator for the NFL and they will seek to expand revenue, this was just a fun hypothetical while NFL news is extremely slow
Sorry, the NFL will eventually expand again. The money is too much to ignore.
Norfolk natives or Roanoke rebels
They need to bring excitement back to the NFL. Expansion teams will never do this. NFL ratings have been dropping and dropping.
How would you bring excitement back?
Also I disagree, it seems every season there’s a new record for viewership made
Same travel time from west coast to east coast as east coast to London
Saint louis, orlando, san antonio, memphis, birmingham, salt lake city, mexico city(2 teams maybe), portland, sactamento, san diego, omaha and okc
So should the NFL just absorb the Canadian football league then is that what your suggesting?
good video
Banger comment
They should split the Carolinas, also side note but if they do expand I’d like the Carolinas to change their name/logo, the panthers is kinda boring and doesn’t have much to do with their region. Commanders is also lame.
Commanders for sure need to rebrand again, and renovate the stadium.
Utah has been the fastest growing state since 2010. The wasatch front metro area has 2.6 million people and growing larger every year.
Utah would be attractive to many of the nimrod NFL players who could have multiple wives at one time legally!
Need to swap a Great Lakes and Canada divisions between conferences so each has simply a Great Lakes division and a Canada division.
Some rivalries are too iconic to break up. Eagles fans traditionally loathe the Cowboys. Yet I seem to recall the Cowboys consider the G-men to be their biggest rival. Under his alignment these teams might not meet every year. Send the Colts to the NE and TitansSouth.
On the other hand the schedule works out better for a 17 game schedule:
Divisional games 3 X 2 = 6
1 game with each team in another division within the conference 1 X 4 = 4
1 game with each team in another division within the other conference 1 X 4 = 4
1 game v 1 team within the remaining divisions of the same conference 1 X 3 = 3
………………………………………………………………………………………………….. total ….. 17
I didn’t even consider the math of the scheduling, so seeing this is pretty cool. Goes to show that the NFL can definitely expand without “ruining the game” as a lot of people seem to think these days
@ Of course greed is pushing for an 18 game regular season. Right now 17 games would seem to mean some teams have 9 home games and others 8. The exception are those games in Europe, Mexico & South America or some other neutral venue.
i like the cfl merger except drop the Roughriders and include BC but change the name to the "Vancouver Cougars"
That league team chart with half the NFC being shifted from the AFC, is not gonna happen….the league was re-alighted years ago
It has been 22 years since a re-alignment, and in that time the NFL has had extreme growth during that time, I feel that it’s enough time for a new alignment.
San Antonio is the second largest city in Texas and deserves a professional football team. They would have had one if not for the damned Cowboys. It is a travesty that they do not. St. Louis is also deserving. International does not make sense unless it is Canada but then where. I doubt that the CFL and the NFL would work due to the difference in rules.
San Diego too
St Louis & SA are only viable spots. I lived in SA for 15 years . The reason for those open US areas is because of income & population in those areas. Not enough money to spend or people in the open areas to support the team 🤷♀️ Best areas to consider who be analyze median income and elites to pay luxury box $
There will be no teams over sea, just here in USA maybe Canada and or Mexico but that's it sorry to tell you this.
Thanks for being sorry
Mexico City....; huge city and metro area, and already have a big stadium. St. Louis MO. The San Antonio Alamo Dome is NOT a huge stadium...; would San Antonio support an NFL team? Oklahoma City is between 2 hotbeds of college football, and OK City only has about 680,000 population; not very big for a NFL team (Green Bay is an exception).
Id move the chargers back to San Diego. You don't need 2 teams in one city
They should add the redskins back as an expansion team in OKC. have a "trail of tears stadium". Lmao. Let washington keep the commanders. Kinda like the ravens browns ordeal. But more historical. I could see the commercial adds for the football team. Narrator "one time in history, native Americans were moved from the east coast to Oklahoma reservations. Brought along the trial of tears. Now, like the days of old, the redskins will be brought to Oklahoma. Gatorades new state of the art trail of tears stadium... redskins, Oklahoma, it just makes since". Lol
That introductory promo to the team would be hilarious omg
Good Lord, NO EXPANSION PLEASE! The NFL as at an all time low for greatness right now. Not enough QBs or OL to go around at 32 teams and you want to water down the talent pool even more and stretch the demand for what exists? Please I beg of all the greed mongers out there....think about what you'd be proposing! We don't need more teams, we need to contract and we don't need teams in Europe or hard to get to places. Please tell me the greed doesn't blind them to the point that they don't see this.
Rant over......dream on about Canada being in the NFL. I see topics like this every so often. It's cute.
Shreveport louisiana has a stadium 50 cent can help bring a team there
World League of American Football and Nfl Europe were complete fails
Bro even it out man new Mexico, Portland, Boise Idaho, billings Montana
CFL is the 2nd best football league world wide, and would have no interest in a merger.
Sorry just saw more of the video.... you booted BC?? The second largest market in the country?
Hey, Fun!
NFC EAST GREAT LAKES should be the WEST vice versa. Geography it counts
Yea, I goofed on that one I won’t lie.
San Diego deserves to be back in the NFL it was wrong what dean Spanos did to San Diego that was not right even though the chargers started off in L.A. city of San Diego never had a NFL team to call their own It was wrong what happened to the city of San Diego not right San Diego deserves to be back in the NFL !
The San Diego Stallions
Dream on. The city actually feels pretty good about not being held hostage by greedy owners of the NFL and have not been shy about making it known. As soon as the Chargers last game was played, they gutting the stadium and tore it down. I think the Aztecs have a smaller stadium there now. SD is not in the league and they're not crying about it. They moved on. Maybe you all should too?
I did have to laugh a bit at the "disposal" of the BC Loins. Yeah sure turf the team from Vancouver... Canadas 2nd largest market. Lol.
I’m a dumb American, I simply didn’t like there being 2 “Lions” teams 🤷🏻♂️
@FranchiseTagged nah not hating. I liked the video and liked the idea. Oddly enough back in the 90s the CFL had 2 rough riders. Saskatchewan and ottawa. Lol. Why can't the NFL have 2 lions? Lol
Anyways good video and keep up the good work. 😀
Vancouver
NAH ROCHESTER, CANANDAIGUA, GENEVA, GREECE, AND FAIRPORT DEFINITELY NEEDS A NFL TEAM CAUSE IT'LL MAKE MORE SENSE ATP SINCE NONE OF THESE CITIES HAVE A PRO SPORTS TEAM DUH LOL 💯.
Preach. Also fuck the packers - the lions fan
@@FranchiseTagged OH REALLY, AND YO YOU SAID WHATT ABOUT MY TEAM OK YOU DORK 🤣.
@@FranchiseTagged BUT I'M NGL WITH ALL DUE TO RESPECT BRO THE LIONS ARE UNDERRATED IMO, AS MUCH AS I DON'T LIKE MY DIVISION TEAM WHICH IS YOU GUYS, THE VIKINGS AND THE BEARS OFC, I REALLY HATE AND CAN'T STAND THE 49ERS MOREE FOR A REASON EVEN THOUGH 💯, AND WAS PERSONALLY HOPING THAT YOU GUYS WOULD'VE WON AGAINST THEM IN THE NFC CHAMPIONSHIP🏆LAST SEASON LMAO.
@@FranchiseTaggedBTW I DO LIKE JARED GOFF, JAMAL WILLIAMS, AND AIDAN HUTCHINSON THO 💯.
Can't go global calling your sport "football" especially in England. Need to change the name.
“Gridiron football” is what they call it in other smaller leagues, I’d imagine a similar name change would be necessary across the board.
Salt Lake City
I have a football podcast. I would love for you to be a gurst on my show
The game is watered-down already yep cheapen the product and raise the price
Your funny, delusional thoughts. The nfl has been in talks before about joining the nfl and only 3 cities in Canada and the 3 are Vancouver, Montreal and Toronto but the biggest problem is the CFL has one of the biggest historical history as a league and goes way back and the NFL doesn’t want to be responsible for dismantling the league and that’s why they didn’t join. If you don’t believe me then do a research and p.s the reason why the 3 cities in Canada is because of the money and size and if you look at the other city’s they will not be able to afford with what sponsors
Birmingham
London Toronto
Montreal!!!*
NFL should NOT EXPAND- just going to dilute the product- hope it doesn't happen- and PLEASE don't go international- LOGISTICS???? pain in the ass for ALL involved
With how this season is going, the product feels plenty diluted. But yes, logistically, overseas expansion is a nightmare.
Omaha
Portland will never get a team
I wouldn't say that just yet. Anything is possible.
no football culture there just expats from europe in a "trendy city"
It’s long past due for the NFL to go to 🇨🇦. Vancouver & Toronto would be the major targets up north.
Facts, give the NFC North more pseudo rivals to pick on.
People always text about placing a NFL Team in Canada, but it’s not going to happen, for one Main Reason, The CFL, doesn’t want any NFL Teams permanently playing in Canada.
Won't happen cuz that was already said he won't go to Canada as long as the CFL is in Toronto and Vancouver it's one of those teams should fold then it's possible. But both are owned by large corporations the Argos are owned by Maple Leaf Sports entertainment. Well the lions are owned privately and has Deep Pockets
Oklahoma does not deserve a nfl team and a basketball team that basketball team belongs to the sonics