I Have Never Been a Woman (FTM)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ย. 2024
- Thank you for taking the time to watch this video! I am hoping to explain why some trans individuals do not really respond to insults like "you will always be a woman" simply because they have, in fact, not experienced womanhood. Obviously, if you came out after having been seen by society as a woman, this does not make your experience any less valid!
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So glad to hear this conversation starting somewhere!!💛🤍💜🖤
Right? I've not heard many people speaking about experiencing their gender like this! I hope it will reach the right audience and resonate with people!
"what makes you a man or a woman is the social characteristics that are assigned to these primary sex characteristics" what are the social characteristics that make someone a woman? being nurturing? being feminine? i'm trans but ngl this just seems regressive. slippery slope into stereotype based reasoning.
"i have never been an adult human female" brother, you are right now. i consider myself a guy but i'm still female. that's.... why... im trans. thats the literal definition of trans. if i wasn't female and i was a guy that would be called being cis.
@@caes2exist you have your own view on how your gender works and that's okay. I know that care and nurturing are stereotypes, which is clearly what I pointed out in the video. But stereotypes are not simply untrue, they are oversimplifications and generalizations of things that do have some grain of truth behind them. I'm not saying I have never been female, or that I have not been assigned female at birth. I'm saying that I have never experienced the social expectations that are put on people born female who continue to identify as female into adulthood. I have not been seen by society as a woman.
@@TheQueerVikingBro that's fair, but i think it's hard for people to understand your point when it seems like you don't have a solid basis for your argument, so much as that you're willing to say whatever you think works. you asserted in the video that you are not female, but in a comment responding to someone else, you say "female =/= woman" implying that you are female but that doesn't make you a woman. i think it's important for us as a whole to have cohesive definitions for words, but at the very least it's important for you to be able to define what you consider words to mean, and be able to use those definitions to back up your argument. that's why some people are so focused on the "what is a woman" question, because without a definition, or by saying "i cant define it, everyone defines that for themselves" the word really means nothing.
@caes2exist yeah, that's kinda the thing. The word woman means different things for different people. Which is why I made clear what definition of the word does not describe me. I study a linguistics related program at university and I honestly do not care that much about whether a word has one definition or multiple. Gender is complex, why would the term "woman" be simple? Providing words with these strict definitions will only result in exclusion. Sometimes the definition of "woman" or "female" transphobes come up with, accidentally also exclude cis women...
I wanted to write something similar but chickened out of fear of being too insensitive since I’m not trans😅 if you are born a female, you’ll always be a female. Even when you’re taking hormones, medically you’re a female who takes testosterone. Man, woman, that’s either social constructs or polite words for male and female. But I also don’t agree with the point that if you aren’t trans, you’re automatically the norm in society. I identify as a woman, I was born female but I feel distress towards my gender/sex. I’m not trans, never will be, I’m a somewhat self-hating cis person, but I guess not the society’s norm, right?
@scattered-idea Unfortunately, feeling distress about being a woman does seem to be pretty normalized. Obviously this does not immediately make you trans, it's just that women are heavily discriminated against, to a degree where I fully understand not feeling comfortable with being seen that way for those reasons. On the other hand it is nowhere near the only reason for "not liking being a woman". I have never related to girls, and never had the same dreams about the future as they did. I hoped I would grow up to be a boy, but I didn't. I thought everyone felt that way, until Iearned what being trans meant.
This reasoning is why trans people have to, and honestly should, go through extensive therapy before they are allowed to medically transition. To be absolutely sure there are no other underlying issues that might cause a discomfort with your body/sex, such as trauma. I did not have any other reason, therefore it was concluded that I am in fact trans and got the diagnosis of gender dysphoria at 15 (I came out at 13). I hope this makes it a bit clearer :)
honestly i never identified as a girl. at like 11 or maybe quicker, i didnt know what lgbt was and shit and i thought to myself, ,,am i a girl?" the answer was no, i didnt feel like a girl but i didnt want to tell anybody cuz i thought im the only person like that. i told my friends that im not a girl and that im something else. (we all used to call me an obojniak lol) as soon as i discovered what being trans i just went ,,oh, thats me" and nothing changed since then! i didnt really question it, and dont plan to, its who i am and most likely always will
@inlovewithcentipedes damn, that sounds very similar to my experience! I honestly didn't know being trans was a thing, and even when I did I knew I wanted to transition but never imagined I could actually do that 😅
Also, I don't think I ever identified as a girl either. I was just a kid. I probably had some level of understanding that others saw me as a girl but I never actively tried being one if that makes sense 😭.
@@TheQueerVikingBro YEAHHH!!! it makes perfect sense, at least to me, who experienced something really similar if not the same, even
You have no idea how much good it does my heart to know that people younger than me have the words now to explain to themselves and the people around them who they are and what they need. Fantastic video bro.
I'm really glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for the positive comment :)
you're so real for this because i also 100% feel that i was never a woman. i perceive myself as someone who was once a girl and grew up into a man. i started socially transitioning shortly after becoming a legal adult and then began taking testosterone soon after that. i really dgaf when people say i'll "always be a woman" because it's just so obviously wrong to me that it can't hurt.
You have the female anatomy. You are a biological woman who presents as a man visually.
@@Big_body_bitch_with_an_opinion the mental gymnastics you people go through to invalidate someone omg 💀
@@Big_body_bitch_with_an_opinion a female anatomy might make you female, yes. But not "a woman". A 5 year old girl also has a female anatomy, does that make her a woman?
Cool to hear! Your experience sounds pretty similar to mine! It also seems like I've grown up from a girl to a man, kinda fun actually.
@@Big_body_bitch_with_an_opinion L + ratio + sex is a complex trait that includes many factors which often but do not always occur together + i am hormonally male. you're free to continue being wrong of course but just in case you were interested in some facts :)
Dude, your eyebrows are almost as thick and bushy as mine. My favorite, though, was a coworker saying he could tell by my hands. Like, what? Because I have two of them? Because I have fingers that make pianists jealous? Because they're not so big I can't put them in xl gloves? It's ok, he's proven more than once that he's a crazy bigot in more than one way.
It's so cool you got to meet your favorite drummer! I wanted to play drums when I was younger. Kinda gave up on that, though. Also, nice ink!
People are so weird sometimes. They care so much about how our bodies look, and for what....
I honestly gave up a bit on drumming too, but mostly because uhh neighbors. If I ever move to a house with better sound isolation I'll start again haha.
No, he's not a crazy bigot; he just has eyes. The hands give away a lot. If you ever have plastic surgery to look younger, your hands will give away your age as well.
@@andrewhall7176 desperately trying to look for "signs" IS crazy dude. Let people live.
@@TheQueerVikingBro It's not "desperately trying to look for signs", it's just noticing things. You might not like the idea of this, because it means that there is always the chance that you won't pass, but it's a fact. Reality. You just have to live with it. Saying people are bigots because they notice things is just stupid, and won't stop their noticing those things anyway. Objective reality exists, and there is nothing you can do about it.
@@andrewhall7176 yeah objective reality exists. And it’s my reality outside of social media, where no one who does not know I am trans somehow thinks I am feminine or even female. You can only “tell” because you know.
Nice new tattoo!! Would be interested to hear about you pain levels as i have a tattoo in a similar spot and towards the back of my leg was the most painful for me
@@MareaRayneOleander Thanks! I have a pretty high pain tolerance, but this one did hurt a bit more than I expected. I had one in a similar spot on my other leg already, but I think that one hurt less. I'm planning to make an updated tattoo tour video, so I'll talk about the pain levels too!
Thank you for talking today. I feel like I understand a bit more about gender now and when I am confused around transgender people I will probably try to ask them about it, instead of thinking confusedly in my mind xD It is pretty complicated because I also have a hard time grasping the meaning of identity in general and I don't usually feel a need to conform to anything unless it is rationally important, because of my autism, so I don't really feel a need to conform to any gender myself.
@@cosmolosys Sounds very relatable! I am in the process of getting my autism diagnosis too, I think it would explain the lack of need to conform in general! I'm glad you enjoyed the video and if you ever have specific questions you know where to reach me!
amazing video as usual!! I'm sorry that you get so much hate tho
Thank you! Unfortunately that is the reality of being openly trans online woohoo 😭
@@TheQueerVikingBro yeah I've had some experience of that being a trans woman on vrchat, there are some very unsavoury people out there
This made me so happy bc we are VERY similar, but im still 15, nice to know people like me are everywhere :)
I love that! I'm happy you found someone similar, it's so important to see people like yourself, to know you're not alone!
I wish the TERFs would drop the whole "adult human female" thing anyway. I'm afab non-binary. I'm an adult human female. I am still not a woman.
@@JennaGetsCreative this!! But you know, they will probably never agree that sex and gender are separate things 😭
what is non-binary?
@@himalayansalt32 non-binary is a term used by anyone whose gender identity falls outside of or between the terms "male" and "female".
@@himalayansalt32 It means my experience of gender is neither entirely "woman" nor entirely "man." Some non-binary people are a consistent blend somewhere on the spectrum with those at either end, some slide along this spectrum ("gender fluid"), some are always androgynous or experience no gender ("agender") and everything else in between.
Most specifically I am a "demi-girl." I'm mostly agender, but every once in a while I have distinctly fem days. I use both she/her and they/them pronouns and I'm not bothered by people defaulting to just she/her as long as they're not doing so maliciously. I acknowledge that I was born in a female body and I'm fine with that, but I wish I had a less curvy body that I could dress more andro. I have no desire to seek out elective surgeries to alter my body, but if I ever get breast cancer I'm opting for a full double mastectomy without reconstruction.
Cool tattoo! And it's awesome that you got to hang out with your favorite band!
@@okamiangles7121 Thank you! I still cannot believe I met them, I have been a fan since 2019 and they mean so much to me!!
Legitimate. Lived experience, socialisation are not insubstantial or novel concepts. Some people are deaf to that [metaphorically]
To my mind however, skeptics with reductionist philosophies and attitudes approach the world forcefully, and ENABLING THEM by saying "They're normal, don't understand, they should try" kind of ... enables their belief that CIS is 'normal' and anything else is not. What that does is praise very normal people doing the very normal thing of ostracising and shaming anything that is not-normal, not like themself.
That's why I always use words like "normal" in quotation marks. Like you said, that would suggest queer people are somehow not normal. However, I would say there is a difference between "normal" and "the norm" - as in, the assumed default position, not necessarily as positively loaded as "normal", which suggests the negative opposite "not normal". I hope that makes sense.
While we should not criticize anyone for falling out of certain norms, it does not immediately follow that queer people or other minorities are considered the norm, the standard. Unfortunately we are not, and saying we are "just like everyone else" does have a slight assimilation feeling to it. I am perfectly fine existing outside of certain set ideas of western society. I acknowledge they are there, and that they are socially constructed.
@@TheQueerVikingBro ☺ thanks for replies, am just about to read them now. I'm taking this all kind of more seriously now and trying to be a good ally because the rhetoric and attacks against /trans identities is stepping up and ... people can exhibit some NASTY behaviour
@@gonnfishy2987 you are doing great work as an ally, thank you! It's honestly sad to see that accepting someone's decision to... live? Still has to be seen as something praiseworthy but it really is. I, and other trans creators, get so many hateful comments, so it's really refreshing to see something a bit more positive ❤️
@@TheQueerVikingBro oof, “accepting someone’s decision to ?live” … hits that place 🥲 … i wish there was a more direct and compelling way people could share the rawness of their experience and the understanding which it formed.
[rambling to myself] In the end, people aren’t all that removed from each other or different. I guess though, that’s how hugboxes/echo chambers form which DO accentuate boundaries “me:like this, you: not like this” 🩶 big love. Im a bit emotionally vulnerable right now, less internet for me! Xx
Awesome video, Dawid. Great explanation about gender. I love your approach toward haters. Make more videos. I am glad that I have just discovered your channel. Sending positive vibes.
Thank you! I'm glad you liked it!!
Korpiklaani is one of the most enjoyable live bands that I've ever seen! It's rad you were able to snap a picture with their dummer 😁 I'll be seeing them later this year and truly cannot wait. I also very much agree with all of the points you raised in this video. Genitals do not equate to gender - it is such a false and narrow perspective to hold onto. Gender is a far broader spectrum that shifts from culture to culture, person to person...it is not bound by simple biological phenotypes.
I love seeing Korpiklaani live too! Will probably go see them again in the future if they ever come to a venue nearby again :) You have fun at their concert too!!
And you're right, gender goes far beyond genitals, even sex goes beyond just genitals, so obviously the social standards associated with them would be an even broader spectrum!
I am somewhat envious because female puberty is ass! I wish i had had the option to bypass it. Im ok with having boobs as a nonbinary person but i hate periods. They make me suffer. Why can't we have a gender buffet? Id like to shapeshift
@chromesthesia Right? Would be so fun to pick and choose whatever little pieces of gender you want. Fortunately, a lot more is possible, and accepted (at least within some communities) when it comes to nonbinary transitioning!
hi everyone i'm the panda faceplanted in the background, in case anyone is wondering
(idk how i got here but i love this video, thank you for this)
Honestly same after reading some of these comments omg. But thank you 😅❤
How do you know your gender dysphoria would not have gone away after going through puberty...
There are studies that most people with gender dysphoria before puberty just turn to gay boys/girls after puberty if they don't start the tranition.
I am a gay boy, I like men xD you can have gender dysphoria before fully going through puberty. I am not saying my body has stayed completely androgynous. Just not become extremely feminine, which I'm very happy about.
@@TheQueerVikingBro you kind of dodged the question. Probably because you can´t really know it for sure... But that would be a question I imagine myself asking if I made a transition before puberty... you cannot rule out that going trough puberty would have gotten rid of all the need of appearing as a male etc.
Taking hormons kind of pushes you in one direction.... like... you feel more more male after taking hormons that changes your brain so that it is more like a typical male brain? No shit! :o
No, taking hormones has not changed the way I feel about "being a man" I am still the same person :) My interests have not shifted at all. I'm not dodging the question, I'm saying I did experience an estrogen dominant puberty to a degree, and it was not for me!
@@TheQueerVikingBro But I am not saying feeling the puberty itself could have made a difference, but going through it completely. After being through puberty your hormons, character etc. would have been different and you cannot know if you your conclusions would be different then...
I don´t know what you mean by "still the same person", but hormons have without a doubt have influence on your views, how you behave etc.
Hormons like this do more than an optical change.
Well, let me ask you the same question then. How do you know the puberty you went through is the correct one for you? Shouldn't you try the other one to see how that works? You see how stupid that sounds?
Hey loved the video :) I'm sorry about all the transphobic trash in the comments :/
@@catalyst40811 Thank you! Unfortunately that is the reality of being openly trans online 🥲
flat earthers get the same push back .. so unfair.
@@bepitanthey should. The earth is an oblong spheroid
It's the first video I've ever seen of you, and as a trans man I truly wish everyone would understand what you just said. I'm currently 17 and started blockers last year and hrt this year and people keep thinking that I was a woman transitioning to a man, which is just not true. (Also I'm so jealous you didn't go through the "female" puberty, my body formed in a way which makes me so sad☹️. I actually used to eat a lot because I just thought that that way I'll became taller and bigger which is associated with masculinity and didn't think that my body will develop in a feminine way)
I'm glad you resonate with what I said! And remember not to be jealous of online strangers, everyone's journey is different and just as valid! In hindsight I would probably have eaten more instead of less too, to be a bit more buff. But good luck on your journey into becoming the man you were meant to be ❤️
i am not considered a man by societys standard , i have not transitioned yet, but i am still a man !
@@lyonclaws5737 Absolutely! Transitioning is not what makes you a man. You being a man is what makes you a man ❤️
I'm genderfluid. I don't even know if I'll be taking hormones. I am most definitely not a man, as assigned by birth. I feel like society puts an expectation on trans people to transition, and that they have ideas of what would constitute that transition. It'd be so nice if we could have all humans' body autonomy respected, and express our gender however we like, or don't like. Fantastic video by the way, thank you!
@mattb1498 I definitely agree! Because of the still existing binary gender norms, a lot of trans people feel like they HAVE to transition in order to conform. I'm obviously not saying that everyone transitions because they think it is expected of them, I genuinely wanted to go on hormones and get surgeries in order to be comfortable in my body for myself, not for society, but it does not have to be this way. If the labels of "man" and "woman" are stretched to much wider meanings, or if we collectively care less about which appearance corresponds to which sex or gender, maybe people won't have to go through as much effort to just live their lives and be accepted :)
@@TheQueerVikingBro Yes I couldn't agree more. Transitioning (or not) is totally up to each single being, and to me fits in the larger context of bodily autonomy and freedom of expression in general. Anyone should be able to change their body however they want, and express themselves how they want, without having to justify it to anyone, imho. And yeah, exactly - if we stop insisting on a systemic, binary categorisation of people basing on predicted reproductive capacity, it doesn't mean that we're invalidating anyone's identity of "man" or "woman". We're just rejecting a top-down definition of what these categories mean, and demanding that our own, subjective sense of gender be honoured, regardless of what that gender might be, including within or without the binary.
Unrelated - I LOVE YOUR MULLET POOKIE
@@FRANKIEKilla thank youu 🖤🖤
Very refreshing to hear a trans person’s perspective. I was watching some videos countering transphobes before, but just hearing their hatred and misinformation again and again is exhausting even when it is being argued against
What misinformation? That she is a female and always will be because it's impossible to change your sex?
Having been present when several friends went through transitions (some younger, some older), I always appreciate your perspective. It can be difficult in the US, depending where you live - for instance some states allow birth certificate gender marker changes, and some will make the change but label the paperwork as "amended," and some will not allow the change. So, even moving to a supportive state may not be enough if your birth state is bad. As a pagan, I also enjoy your spirituality videos. Keep being you. ⭐️
I have even heard that in states like Florida (of course it's Florida) they're looking to revoke already changed documents, which is absolutely terrifying. Going through all that for nothing must be horrible... I'm glad to hear there are some progressive states still. We'll see what the next election brings...
Father has posted 😝
I sure have 😌❤️
hi, i'm nonbinary, that's cool you got to transition so young, wasn't an option here, also cool about the band, being a drummer, and the tattoo looks great
@@AlkemyFrost-ju4hx I got very lucky, not everyone knows from a young age and not everyone has the access to the right healthcare 🥲
But thank you! I had an eventful week as you can see :)
Brother good luck with these comments. You’re braver than any US Marine
I just woke up and these comments omg 😭 thanks for the support. I'm gonna need it😂
if gender was a social construct, then what is facial feminization surgery? Is it making the brow bone bigger? Is it adding an Adams apple? No, it’s the opposite, feminization surgery follows what nature intended for women, there are key characteristics that are biological based on the two sexes, that’s why male to female surgery is not vagina to penis surgery, it is penis to vagina surgery, being inherently female is not a social construct. It is biology. What is a social construct, high heels, make up, clothing, gender expression is a social construct, but Female to male transition do not get breast implants for a reason, not because it’s a social construct, but because woman Are of the nature to have breast, yes, some men have breasts But that’s either a hormonal, imbalance or implants of course
Going through hormone replacement therapy and undergoing feminizing surgeries is not what makes you a woman. If you decide you need those things, that means you already identify as a woman. It is then, for some people the obvious choice to undergo medical procedures to have more characteristics typically associated with the female sex.
Gender and sex are separate but they aren't unrelated, and because of the societies we live in gender is inherently tied to a lot of sex traits, that's true, but that doesn't invalidate trangender people? I highly recommend you do some actual research man before just typing whatever in people's comment sections.
Gender and sex are the same thing.
The definition of gender has been hijacked.
Gender iss an offshoot of Gene aka genetics.
Genesis is the birth of us all. Reproduction.
Gender is just a polite way to say sex because our society use to have morals.
@@maycarmel8416 I’m a woman and you will not silence me , I am entitled to my opinion esp when in infringes on my human rights which includes having to bunk in a prison cell w a persons a p*nis - you trying to silence me will only make me louder - also you have no idea what experience I have on this topic , respectfully
No, gender is not an offshoot of genetics. It has the same core as for example the word "general", the core being "genus", Latin for people/nation/family. It's also a term used in linguistics do describe grammatical structures (gendered nouns for example).
I say this too, since I never spent a full year as a “woman”. I transitioned before my 19th birthday. It’s funny how people try to discredit my experience as a man because I’ve only spent about 6 years identifying as male.
It's always so weird to me when people think there is some kind of time frame of when you're allowed to identify as a man like... whether you come out at 12 or at 30, your experience as a man is equally as valid. Whether you have gone through life being perceived as a woman or not, if you say you're male, you are male ❤️
What about the 18 years you lived before your transition? Including your childhood and teenage years that are arguably the most formative years of your life? At the very least your childhood. You grow up as a girl and had female socialization. You didn't have the same experiences in life and socialization boys/men have, sorry.
@@TheQueerVikingBro You cannot change your sex. You are born a male or a female and that cannot be changed no matter what you do and what you say. Sorry.
@@saoirse2963 there's nothing wrong with that. I don't know about the person you're responding to, but I am very thankful to have been socialized as a girl. At least I'm not some emotionless basement dweller like some men in my comment sections.
I'm very sorry that you've been lied to by this world into believing you're not a woman.
I know you'll immediately reject everything I say because you strongly believe in your journey and everything you've already done seems impossible to change or go back. I just want you to know you can go back and that deep down you are a beautiful woman and that doesn't mean you have to be feminine either you could be as masculine as you like but you've always and always will be a woman. You'll never know what it's truly like to be a man as I do.
I only wish good things for you and your life I hope everything goes well for you and everything goes how you dream it to. And whatever trauma caused this illness is confronted and cured.
Have you ever stopped to think that no one wants to be a man "like you are" ?
"I wasn't born a woman/man, I was born a baby" xD
That's a good comeback to transphobes
ADULT human female. ADULT human male. Gender = Sex. OP is female, adult and human. Woman.
@@NoOne-bp2jw And you are horrible. Just as valid as your opinions on language, sex, gender.
NO ONE shares some exact "experience" of being a man or a woman, that is why we define a woman as an adult FEMALE, they are all of the same sex, that is what defines them. "Man" or "woman" are not some moral judgement or evaluation of how masculine or feminine they feel or present, it's simply about having a term to describe any adult human male and any adult human female.
This obsession that the "trans" community has with redefining the terms to reflect how they feel etc. is totally pointless. There are no people who truly feel 100% comfortable all of the time, the idea of labelling people "cis" or "trans" is completely unnecessary, there is no "cis" experience and there is no "trans" experience, people are individuals, and as a whole the community fails to come up with any coherent explanation to define their redefinition of "woman" because you cannot come up with a definition that caters to every possibility. That is why the terms "man" and "woman" being rooted in physical reality is the only thing that makes sense, if there are no clear parameters for a definition then it cannot function as a definition. If anyone can identify as a grablar, and the only definition of being a grablar, is feeling like identifying as one, then you haven't defined grablar as anything at all. This is why it is also an obsession with creating more and more boxes.
The terms "man" and "woman" encompass every possible personality, within physical boundaries, any man or woman is free to act, think, look, behave however they want, that they as individuals are labelled as men or women is purely about the physical - saying a man is an adult human male, and a woman an adult human female does not restrict anyone's self-expression, not wanting to acknowledge one's physical reality is a fool's errand, the sex someone is doesn't change based on how anyone feels or dresses - so it is the "trans" side that 100% is creating this false narrative that acknowledging a person's sex is somehow restrictive, they are the side saying men or women behave like this or that. I mean if they weren't doing that, then they would agree that the umbrella terms based on sex, man and woman, were perfectly fine - but they don't! They say no no, if someone doesn't FEEL like the sex they are, they can't be it, though they cannot explain what "feeling cis" even really means, because NO ONE shares the exact same experiences emotionally. What "they" are trying to do is swap a definition that has a physical basis, for a definition that is entirely rooted in feelings and often in validating sexist stereotypes associated with either sex.
This "woman is a social construct" thing IS the part that validates and perpetuates sexist stereotypes - woman isn't a social construct in that sense, it is a word society has chosen yes, but to describe a PHYSICAL state of being, not anyone's emotional states or where they fall on some spectrum of masculinity or femininity. There is a fundamental misunderstanding here of what the definition of man and woman means. The notion that people need to live up to sexist stereotypes of what "real men" or "real women" are, is complete fantasy. The fact that many people act as if sexist stereotypes were valid ways of measuring "real men" or real women" is a problem with the individual and their sexist bias, not with the terms themselves, as the terms themselves have none of the expectational baggage that people who internalise sexist stereotypes associate with them.
If you believe no one is ever comfortable with their gender, boy do I have some news for you. I hope you figure yourself out and stop pushing your own frustrations onto others! Obviously you don't have to be trans to not live up to gender norms, that doesn't mean trans people should not exist. Wtf.
@@TheQueerVikingBro Way to miss the underlying point... Try reading the whole thing next time to stop yourself making foolish comments.
@@ambientjohnny forgive me for not caring more about your ramblings, I have a life outside of caring way too much about how people decide to live their life.
@@TheQueerVikingBro "I have news for you"
please do share!
Jesus christ why the hell did 'phobes gravitate toward this video like flies to shit ?
@@Capylotte they always do, they keep interacting with trans content and then act surprised as to why it shows up on their feed 😭
Jesus has nothing to do with this.
@@RS54321 He has to do with everything tho
Funny how you like the comments that support your belief and delete the ones that don’t… why making a statement then? For approval?
@@user-tx2gi7ls7h Why would I not like comments that support my belief? Do you disagree with people who agree with you? And how would you know I’m deleting comments? Surely them being there would suggest that they are, in fact, not deleted 🤯🤯🤯
I just wanted to say your mullet is awesome.
It is super cool that the Netherlands has options to change your document like that.
I hope America adopts something similar at some point.
Sorry to hear that people have insulted in this way.
You don't owe them your time or an explanation at all.
If they are saying things that ignorant they probably do not have the emotional intelligence to understand how/why it affects, you let alone make any meaningful change in their actions.
Of course this is not any sort of excuse for their aberrant behaviors.
At 7:30 through 7:52 I always wonder about this too!
Overall I just love all the points you make in this video and hope that people giving you hate will do better... eventually.
@@missingna404 Thank you for your positivity! Indeed, a lack of understanding or unwillingness to understanding is fully on those people, and untill they learn to respect other people's lived experiences... they will probably keep hating
I think the definition of woman or man the people you refer to are going by is a chromosome based one.. like even if you present yourself a certain way your primary sex characteristics belong to a certain sex, in your case female. Maybe a better way to make your point is that you’ve never experienced being perceived as an adult female because you started presenting as male before reaching a certain age.
@@angeninetytwo that’s… what I said? Woman ≠ female and sex ≠ gender. I am not implying that I have never been female, I am implying that I have never been a woman, which is the social identity a person born female gets assigned at a certain age.
if you were never a female, why did you have to take puberty blockers? what would happen to your body if you stop taking cross-sex hormones? why do you have to take it to begin with?
@@ludaw2975 you have not understood the video at all, did you 😭 female ≠ woman
@@TheQueerVikingBro oh, ok. So you were born female, but never went through puberty (never menstruated), that's why you're saying you've never been a woman?
@@ludaw2975 no, you're still not getting it. I have never been a woman, because I have never experienced being seen by society as a woman. A woman is an adult human female. Menstruating does not make you a woman. A 11 year old can menstruate, that does not mean it makes her a woman.
@@TheQueerVikingBro biologically when a girl reaches puberty and starts menstruating and able to get pregnant, she can be considered an adult human female. Throughout history it was common for girls to become women and start bearing children at age of 12-16, as soon as they reach puberty. In modern society, especially western, the childhood stage lasts way longer, way past puberty.
At what age in your opinion a girl can be considered an adult female and why?
@@TheQueerVikingBro Hah! Does being seen by society as anything really MAKE you anything or otherwise? And what do you define as society if these are your terms for defining anything? Is it perhaps your perception of a vague term that is 'society'?
The words Male and female are to define the two sexes that are of the nature to produce either eggs or sperm (of the nature to is important because some are infertile) but hormones in the brain in utero affect us SO much!! People don’t know , it hasn’t been studied enough, there have been studies about the “first puberty” in the womb which is when hormones first kick in , some studies show that men w high testosterone during this period often are gay in adult hood for example, it would explain why people feel this way their entire lives and even possibly crave the opposite sex hormones - would love to hear your thoughts, respectfully
There are also studies which suggest that trans people are trans because the brain develops independently from the rest of the body within the fetus, and can get different "instructions" on how to develop, resulting in a female body with a male brain or vice versa.
I watched till the end :) And I did notice a Finnish name on the shirt right away. Not a band I've heard play though.
Yess they sure are finnish! I started learning the language a bit because of them :)
You argued that being pagan is congruent with being trans and that it was Christianity that set the gender roles we have today. But I see you are interested in Norse culture. The Norse, even before Christianity, had very rigid gender roles, MUCH more rigid than those we have today. Men and women led totally separate lives and people who broke these roles were exceedingly rare and not accepted (were considered odd), and they didn't claim to be a different gender. It was illegal for men to dress as women because it was considered a perversion, and homosexuals were ridiculed. Not even Loki and Odin claimed to be a different gender, they "disguised" themselves for different purposes and this was considered magic i.e. shapeshifting (it didn't apply to mortals) AND it was ridiculed even in their case. The same goes for Greek/Roman and (as far as I know, because I'm not very familiar with it) Slavic pre-Christian cultures.
So I'm not sure how people got this idea that gender roles are a Christian invention and that it was "normal"/socially acceptable to not comply to them? This is not a thing in European culture and what is generally understood by modern-day paganism (like Asatru or Wicca) draws on European cultures.
@rn6345 So. A few things. How do we know about the society of pre-Christian Europe? Predominantly Christian and sometimes Arabic written sources. Written by outsiders who visited these regions for specific political reasons. All the written laws that we know from Scandinavia come from the period where Christianity was already introduced.
I'm not implying that's a "bad" thing, since words like good or bad are relative anyway. I'm saying that we, in modern times, look at pre-Christian pagan religion through a monotheistic, Christian lense. Because that's all we have, apart from the archeological record, which can only be interpreted based on things we know or think we know.
Obviously Christianity did not 'invent' the gender binary. Christianity barely invented anything. It just took and copied from other cultures and religions, starting of as a small sect of judaism in the Roman Empire. Which did not stop it from developing into this big world religion that it is today.
@@rn6345 Also, just because some terms like "gender roles" or "gender" itself are modern terms, does not mean they have been irrelevant through history. There are cases of people who we would now call trans, or at least gender noncomforming, throughout all od human history, across many cultures. Look no further than the Roman Emperor Elagabalus, who prefered to be adressed with female titles and seen as a woman. Or look at the Greeks, where homosexual relationships were not only accepted, but sometimed even encouraged. Or look at Loki, who changed shape and gender. Just because he himself did not state that he had some sort of queer identity, does not mean that this cannot be interpreted that way. People are easily assumed heterosexual and conforming on the basis of much less evidence.
@@TheQueerVikingBro You are very correct about the sources we have. We don't know the truth because we don't have any direct sources. So we have 2 options: 1. We draw conclusions from the sources we do have, or 2. Make suppositions based on, frankly, not much. We can admit that we don't know how pre-Christian Norse people viewed people who broke the gender binary (including non-heterosexuality) but that it was likely not socially acceptable, or we can just imagine and state whatever we want about that culture because there are no direct sources. I prefer to take the scholarly approach and go with 1.
As for Christianity: every culture and societal development builds on the ones that existed before it, so it not "inventing" anything isn't really a fault. Every culture adapted this religion to its own norms and mentalities. In Scandinavia, it destroyed things (almost everything related to their pre-Christian faith, unfortunately) and it added a set of rules which took a while until they caught on (which is why I believe Scandinavia at the time of the written sources we have isn't very different from the pre-Christian one). But many of these rules were beneficial for the development of society (such as writing, education, and protecting women against sexual abuse).
@@TheQueerVikingBro We can interpret things however we want, but it doesn't make it true. The best we can do is draw conclusions based on the sources we have and the ethos of those societies. And not just read a sentence out of context, but understand the entire context and the society.
Looking at the sources we have on Elagabalus, we know that he was very out of the ordinary (the only person to be described as such), and also that he was hated for the things he did (he was killed and is presented very negatively, so his choices and attitudes are by far from condoned by society). The only account describing him as what we'd now call "trans" also describes him as a murderer, religious fanatic and rapist. Is this account true, or is it fabricated? If it's true, he's definitely not a role-model for anyone and was a clearly a disturbed individual.
As for homosexual relationships being accepted by the Greeks, were they? Sure, in the whole of Greek antiquity (1000+ years and a very vast area with different customs) there are a few accounts of homosexuality in a positive or neutral light (and even encouraged by Plato in his beautiful descriptions of same-sex love), but in the vast majority of accounts it is condemned and disputed (like the relationship between Achilles and Patroclus which some ancient Greek sources present as homosexual and others as friendship). So, overall, ancient Greek society was similar to ours in this respect (only more violent, more "masculine" and way worse in how they treated women).
I love history, especially the Viking age, but we've come a long way in tolerance towards people who stray from the norm, and I certainly don't wish to go back to those times. Hence I don't like idealizing them or using aspects of them out of context in order to legitimize present-day ideas.
Also, I forgot to mention that a lot of what we generally refer as homosexuality in Greek antiquity is actually a relationship between an older man and an underage boy, and the younger man was often a servant. I'm very sure not all cases was like this, but a lot of the descriptions we have of homosexual relationships refer to that. So it's not a very pretty picture.
a lot of people simply don't care about others gender identities neither supportive nor against trans people
@@raphlvlogs271 you can’t be “neither supporting or against” a person’s right to exist. By not caring, you take a stance already. Not sure how this is relevant to the video though, clearly people who do not care would not invalidate a trans person 😅 As I said in the end, I do not expect every person to understand what it’s like to be trans, but the least you can do is accept that others have a different view on life than you do and that’s okay!
I've been having this argument with my cousin lately because he thinks his kids shouldn't be taught about this stuff until high school because "kids are impressionable" and I'm like. They are, yes! And they're already picking up your gendered expectations for them whether they're queer or not! It's so frustrating.
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@Kagomai15 Right? I was subjected to cisheteronormative media and examples my entire life and look how I turned out 😅 Obviously kids brains are like sponges for new information and stimulation, but that shouldn't make their feelings any less valid! If cis kids can know and accept their assigned gender idetity from a young age, so can trans and gender-nonconforming kids!
the term man and woman go back through time and throughout every culture driven by the singular task to procreate ...and to procreate has been the foremost thing on every human tribes mind as they fought the elements to survive and to make sure the tribe lives on when they are gone. Everything else is secondary ..well it was until relatively recently it seems.
Wiktionary has 21 different noun definitions for the word "man". The question "when does a boy become a man?" is such an example that has been around for a very long time. I think what's more important is conveying meaning through conversation, which has always been an interaction between the speaker/author and the listener/reader.
@@odometric5946 .. how did anyone know what a man and a woman was prior to the internet? I'm pretty sure nobody had to look up the definition in a dictionary. Ask any child from the 60s what was the difference was and they would immediately point to the obvious.
@@bepitan it's almost like human society developed beyond the simple need of just procreating. So much more to life than that.
@@TheQueerVikingBro .. speaking of life we are now facing a major issue regarding severe population decline so i do think procreation needs to become fashionable again.
@@bepitan Actually, I think Earth would benefit from people procreating less. There's so many of us already, and how's that going for the planet?
Love this video 🥰 I’m glad I found you
@@CraftyVegan thanks! I’m glad you enjoyed it!
That doesn't even make any sense. We don't call female cats women because... they're not human. Just like we don't call female humans does because they're not deer. It has nothing to do with gender roles.
Exactly. They are not human and therefore are not impacted by human gender roles. What's not to understand?
@@TheQueerVikingBro Being a woman has nothing to do with gender roles. You can be a woman and assume a role usually attributed to men.
Technically yes, but you would still be seen as "a woman fulfilling typically male roles", roles which do not have anything to do with genitals or sex in a broader way, but because said roles have been associated with one gender or another throughout history. This is why it was possible for women to "pretend to be men" in earlier times, because people could not fathom that someone who said they were male and did male things was not a man.
@@TheQueerVikingBro But that's exactly my point. You can be a woman and fulfill any role you want. If people see that role as a male role, that's on them. People should be able to fulfill any role they want without it affecting whether they're a man or a woman. Does that make sense?
@@NamiHeartilly Exactly, but that doesn’t stop people from being trans. You can be a woman and feel like a woman, while still enjoying tasks and roles typically considered masculine and vice versa. You can also be a trans man and want to fulfill these roles precisely because you want to relate your own masculinity to them. AND you can be trans without feeling the need to fulfill the roles typically assigned to the gender that you wish to live as :)
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Na litosc boska, nie, nikt nie "przypisuje plec", prosze nie powtarzac bzdur z USA .Powiem to jako facetka (ktora sie nigdy nie bawila lalkami i tego typu badziewiem). Masz taka plec jaka masz, czyli XX.Ja zyje swoim zyciem bez zruinowania sobie zdrowia hormonami. Czemu tak nie mozesz? Nie chce Ciebie skrzywdzic ale branie hormonow bez potrzeby (nie, Ty nie masz na nie "potrzebe") ruinuja na duzsza mete zdrowie.
Może naucz się porządnie pisać zanim zaczniesz ludzi wyzywać ok 🤣
@@TheQueerVikingBro uf, moze sie odniesiesz do tego, co napisalam, zamiast sie czepiac nieistotnych drobnostek ok 😆 Ale wiadomo, to nieprzyjemne.
Nie mam zamiaru zbytnio zajmować się byle jak napisanymi bzdurami, sorry. Osoby transpłciowe nie są Amerykańskim wymysłem. Jeśli jesteś zadowolona ze swojej płci i swojego ciała to super, nikt ci tego nie zabrania. Zostaw więc innych ludzi w spokoju i skup się na własnym życiu!
i'm getting déjà vu is this a repost?
@@SemiiCreates it's not, but I do have another video called "you'll never be a man" 😅
@@TheQueerVikingBro that's the video i watched then. i love your stuff keep going
@@SemiiCreates I’m glad you liked it!
There are two sexes, intersex is just a mix of the two, gender expression is infinite on the spectrum of masculinity to femininity - I would love to hear your opinion on femme boys in male spaces - not enough people talk about it xx
There are more sexes tho, intersex does not have to be a mix of the two. In the human species, depending on what you exactly call sex, many combinations are possible. If, say, chromosomal combinations define sex, then there's a lot more than XX and XY. If you say that genitals or hormone levels define sex... well, some people are born with ambiguous features or their hormone levels change completely throughout their lives. So sex is realistically just as broad a spectrum as gender.
Fun fact, some organisms, like fungi, have thousands of sexes, which are all compatible with one another to produce offspring. Biology is simply not that simple.
@@TheQueerVikingBro humans are of the nature of two sexes as there are xx and Cy- intersex is a variation of the two and you are correct that there are different variations - in recorded history there are just over 30 variations on record in under 2 percent of the population - there was only one case ever that modern medicine is aware of where a man produced eggs until he hit puberty- the eggs stopped producing, testes dropped and sperm production began- this is NOT a third + gender, it’s a mix of the two - humans are of the nature to produce eggs and sperm to further evolution - intersex is an anomaly which is fine and not a negative thing but many intersex people are not happy being used as cannon fodder for the trans debate - they are not a third+ gender and some feel objectified being used this way - some humans are born w 4 fingers or one arm but we are of the nature to have 5 fingers and two arms ( which is why no one makes four finger gloves or one armed T-shirts) and we are not fungi lol
@@TheQueerVikingBro There are not more sexes, there are two sexes, there’s intersect, which is a variation of the two sexes, there’s nothing about intersex that is outside of those two sexes being mixed together in different varieties and only 30 varieties that have ever been recorded in history so by your logic, there are about 30 different sexes? Because that’s all we have to base this on beyond that it gets too philosophical to be put into law, I as a woman do not want to be put in a prison cell with someone with a p*nis that is functioning, that is a human rights violation
the first part of your argument is stupid (haven't watched the full video) there are different words used for different genders of cattle and other types of animals like horses or cows.For cows we use bulls for the male specimens of the speciese and cows for them male specimens so your argument makes no sense in this regard. And also cats act differently depending on their gender and just because words that differentiate animals by gender have fallen out of use dosen't mean that males and females of a speciese aren't differen't to the point that we assinged them different names, It's probably just that people no longer use these words in their day to day life. And as a final point men and women act different socialy so obviously there would be a destinction between them both in terms of sex and in terms of social behaviour, as this is also the case in other animals and is the reason we have different names for them.
"(Haven't watched the full video)" says enough lol
i really like the hairstyle on you
@@lyonclaws5737 ah thank you! I really enjoy having it too :)
Unrelated but you look super cool!! Also jealous of your stretched ears and septum lmao
Ahhh thank you!
Excellent video!! 👏🏼 new subscriber here and I am genderfluid, in America (the Midwest)… thank you for having the courage to speak out about this! Much love -
I’m curious how you would feel about bunking in a males prison as Someone born producing eggs/with a vagina? Or would you if arrested, request to be put in a female prison?, if you are arrested in a foreign country and your identification says male, how do you feel about being put in a male prison Because now you would be based on your identification and birth certificate - Thank you for being reasonable and not insulting like most people are when I ask logical questions like this, I appreciate that and it’s important for this topic and conversation and for people to live happy lives, one of my best friends is a cross dresser
Well, my birth certificate says male. That would mean I'd end up in a men's prison. No prison environment is safe, so I'd rather just stay out of the penitentiary system.
Gender is a social construct, and if you accept that, you can accept people who don't abide by that construct. This includes the majority of "cis" people (who are more accurately agender by your terms) who only identify based on sex. Does that invalidate trans people, if people identify based on sex and not gender?
@nimexwolf how would cis people be agender? That makes no sense. The majority of people are comfortable fulfilling the social expectations that are put onto them based on their sex assigned at birth. There is nothing wrong with that. That's quite literally the norm. And realistically, sex is only relevant in a situation when two humans want to procreate, or at least have intercourse for other reasons. If you meet a random person at work or on the street. What does it matter which genitals they have? How they were born? They were probably also born significantly smaller and lighter, but what impact does that have on who they are in their adult lives?
I think I understand what your question is aiming at, I'll answer assuming you asked out of genuine curiosity.
No, cis people who identify as such only because of how they were born, rather than an "inner feeling", do not invalidate the existence or validity of trans people.
I know a lot of people out there feel this imperative need for one theory to be true: Either a person's gender is how they feel on the inside, or it's not. I am of the belief that there isn't one single truth to anything in life, so I don't care if a person calls themselves cis even if they *technically* may fit the definition of agender better.
I also believe it's not inherently transphobic for someone to say "I'm a woman because I have a vag". That person could merely be describing their OWN lived experience of womanhood and how they relate to it. It only becomes transphobic when the person goes on to say that this applies to EVERYONE else.
Now, I suppose it is true that all of what I wrote here is just MY opinion, which may not be the most satisfactory answer, I'm sorry about that. But I suppose I wanted to contribute my two cents. Trans and non binary people such as myself come with all sorts of different opinions, which I also believe is important to emphasize. We're not a hivemind and shouldn't be treated as one (not accusing you of this, btw, you're cool).
@@TheQueerVikingBro I think I could clarify that a bit. "Cis" people who see sex and gender as synonyms and say "I don't identify as a X, I just am an X" are very closely mimicking agender ideas and use a different system to identify entirely. Identifying with your sex is very different from identifying as the corresponding gender and accepting that sex is not the same as gender. Does that make sense? If you call somebody "cis" but they don't identify with a gender identity but identify based on a different rule set from yours, such as "sex = gender and I identify as my sex and don't see gender" then they are effectively not cis, because they are not viewing the world through the lens you view it in, and cis is an invalid way to reference them in that regard. Cis can only make sense when somebody has a distinct gender identity that aligns with their sex, and they see sex and gender as different things.
Love the confidence bra 🤘 detrans voice is hot too though! 🤣 sexy metal detrans voice 🥰
I'm not detrans tho, that means detransitioned. I'm not detransitioning 😆
@@TheQueerVikingBro Good queerpagan 👍
You're pagan, you're connected to something so ancient, but muddled up by modern bs. I really feel for young people trying to navigate gender non conformitity and expressing that, with conformist views about gender roles and trans identity being projected on to them all the time. A woman is a human female, man is human male. It means the same thing as sex , but just woman and male are the HUMAN terms for male and female, like heffer and bull are terms for cows, so on. A 12 year old female would be a GIRL. The feelings you have about the word woman are probably based on how you dislike expectations and gender roles and norms put on women. I hope both women and men can learn to reject these gender roles and norms without rejecting themselves.
@Spinner773 I did not reject myself. If I did, I would be living a miserable life as a person who I do not feel any connection with. Instead, I chose to be happy. Modern ideas about gender are actually not modern at all. It is white Christianity which spread these rigid, binary norms. Paganism and queerness are deeply intertwined. By looking beyond established, monotheistic religion you notice how much these Christian values are engrained in western society. I'm not trans in order to conform, quite the opposite. If I wanted to conform, I would lead a sad, boring life, working a 9 to 5 job that I hate. Life can be so much more than that. And generational differences are okay, we won't have the same visions and experiences. That is completely fine.
@@TheQueerVikingBropaganism is about connection with mother nature, what is natural and divine. That seems disconnected from taking a drug to change your body and the way people perceive your gender. "Queerness" if you mean being considered "strange" and outside the norm is NOT NEW, but the medical industry and what they are doing is FAIRLY NEW. And I bet the people who work within the industry and benefit from it are so happy to see the number of people transitioning steadily increasing.
@@Spinner773 where do you think hormones come from tho? They are isolated from natural substances. Being more connected with myself has allowed me to be more connected to the people and the nature around me :)
And I'm sorry but this is not as anti conformist as you think. You said you've always been androgynous and gender non conforming. So by identifying as trans and taking t you are doing exactly what society expects you to do. True non conformity is being a gender non conforming woman. i know it's not easy being a non conforming person in a world where you mostly feel out of place, and I know certain things can make it even harder and more complicated, but we should encourage people to stand in their truth, even if it's complex, we should discourage how the trans narrative is being pushed on gender non conforming people.
Really missing the point of gender non-conformity now are you? Are you seriously saying you want me to conform to your idea of non-conformity? Wow. No thanks, I'll just keep going the way I have been living my life!
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