Jordan is the greatest scorer, but Lebron is a better all round player. Let just move on... Jordan is the greatest because of his effect on the game and his influence in creating opportunities for players selling the game to a wider audience...
Wha should be first is: 10-5-5 games over 1,200 or 15-5-5 games over 1000 or 20-5-5 games over 700 or 25-5-5 games over 300or 30-5-5 games over 150 for lbj while mj barely cracks 100 for each😂
It's unheard of. It's never happened. LeBron the only one posting stats like this for 20 years. He's the GOAT for longevity but Mike may be the best guard of all time overall. Kobe is close along with some others but MJ came at the right time. There will never be another MJ just like there will never be another LBJ. That's why SAS has them #1 and #2 respectively.
@@doogiebear139Kobe AKA Mamba was literally the top tier volume shooter...he took very difficult shots but that also made him the best bad shot maker in NBA history if gets deep
Soo annoying bro thats how you know she only around because stephen A tappin that🤣🤣 you cant tell me they got rid of max but kept molly because she's valuable 🤣🤣
nah, curry klay reggie ray and a dozen other dudes are ahead of him just like MJ, Kobe, Shaq, Magic and a dozen other dudes ahead of him in the GOAT debate.
in 2017 FInals it was debatable who the best player on the court was (KD, Steph Curry the back to back MVP, or Lebron).... during Jordan's era it was NEVER a debate who the best on the court was
@@agentsquido5908not necessarily. Take Jordan out of his era and the league is like it is now with teams taking turn winning titles. Lebron wasn’t the apex predator that Jordan was, which is why other superstars are winning as much as he has. If theres ever gonna be another Jordan the league will be seen as weak because no one else will seem like the are good enough to win
Didn't LeBron just past Jordan? They be quick to sound off how many games LeBron did it in, then when someone mentions how manyshots it took , they don't want to talk about it anymore, and excuses soon follows. Same with LeBron's finals record. They be quick to sound off LeBron's finals record , but when you start talking about competition and advertisty, they don't want to talk about it anymore , excuses soon follows. Just wait until LeBron retires and folks start actually doing a deep dive into his career. Scary site.
nah Lebron fans just build new parts of the field and try to make that part of the game. Lebron could never reach the goal post, so we have to build new parts of the field trying to be like "Yeah jordan scored a touchdown, but Lebron got the high score on pacman"
@@Chu_Bandz sir put the phone down and go have a conversation in real life. Read also. Then come back and comment. But you are in fact the type of person trying to convince the people that Lebron is the 🐐
I don’t think Lebron better than Jordan but the way people troll his career because he isn’t is the problem. Dude one of the best players of all time and he’s still great after playing 22 seasons.
We still talking about a dude with a losing record in the championship round that skipped teams when the going got tough to form super teams and still wound up losing more than he won? This is the most forced conversation in sports history.
As much as I hate to admit it,you're correct sir. I've fought for MJ in this debate harder than anyone and it rarely if ever makes a difference. To each their own 🤷🏾♂️
@@Riscoflatz7 you have to be serious, theres context clues for a reason. During that era, most teams thought they needed a big man to win them a chip and portland already had clyde and wanted a center. Plus how could a man considered so clutch and still playing, have meltdowns in the finals and have his fans use hypotheticals to prop him up?
MJ in the dorm? MJ was just winning US gold as a amateur and a national championship as an amateur (last group of amateurs to win gold in basketball.) Jordan was a winner before 20. Lebron ain't won anything until he had a super team at age 26 and had already choked away one finals on said super team. Basketball that doesn't happen in the NBA counts on your resume, Mr. Sharpe.
@@billycarter1798 Allow me to educate you. As an amateur and playing with only amateurs for team mates he beat NBA all stars such as Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, Kevin McHale, Robert Parish, Isiah Thomas Sr. and Mark Aguirre. Playing with amateurs against pros, he never lost against pros. While Lebron couldn't make the playoffs, MJ was beating all stars with amateurs.
it's just gaslighting because nobody watches the nba anymore and they are trying to get ratings back. If they were really more skilled, the NBA would not keep dumbing down the rules year after year to make the game "more exciting"
Three cities 3 Jerseys in the Rafters one in my home state and the other two in the coolest cities in the USA and a Statue in at least two I'm sorry if that aint a legacy then I don't know what is. If we choose to forget Jordan's career losses in the playoffs which is actually part of getting to a final hello then we doing the same for Bron. Don't get shot in Chicago the King sitting pretty in South beach or Rodeo drive while running his own city, how's Charlotte?
@ I’m sorry you get props for building a dynasty where you’re at. Like Jordan, Magic, Bird, Duncan. Charles Oakley is Jordan’s best friend. He wouldn’t have gotten respect if when he couldn’t get past the Pistons he just went to join his friends Oakley and Ewing in NY. LeBron kept switching teams for the easy way out. And he still lost 6 times in the finals. And he hasn’t even 3 peated once on 3 different teams. While Jordan 3 peated twice on the same team? He couldn’t even 3 peat once with Wade and Bosh? Jordan’s the GOAT.
Shannon: Lebron was better because he has more points and MORE matters! Also Shannon: Lebron having only 4 chips doesn't matter because more DOESNT matter.
Then Bill Russell the GOAT but again the numbers dont seem to matter on either side its ridiculous Jordan the Goat of the 90's, and Bron the GOAT of the 200'0's done everybody happy. lol
Was the 3 point line there in 79 🤔 Jordan also didn't play against zones Zone defense was allowed starting 2001 Jordan never faced zone defenses...... LBJ at 18 had a great season Jordan was in a dorm at 19 calling mom for gas money My guy was in the Nba Scoring isn't everything Look at his assist Look at his rebounds Triple doubles One of the greatest passers in history of the League Being the scoring leader !! LeBron is the Goat 🐐 Lbj avg 25 PPG at 40 years old
Jordan Also came in at a time where he was the most athletic with speed n so on esp at the guard position n also on avg took 23 shots per game compared to Bron 19 on avg
And Lebron passed Jordan in all time scoring with 1200 less shot attempts, while being a pass first guy being 4th all time in assist, and top 30 in rebounding. Where’s as Jordan just jacks up shots and still Lebron passed him all time scoring with fewer shots ?
@@KingWest_What does that matter that he shot less? No OST of those attempts were at the rim,not clutch shots. You make no sense. It tool Lebum 7 more years,do you comprehend that? It's pure longevity and steroids,why are you even talking?
Not so fast Jordan at 18’to 20. Winning college championships with the shot. Getting gold medals With nobody’s Lebron was missing the playoffs getting bronze medals losing to putro Ricki and Greece lmao You can’t win sharpe
@ Okay Patrick Ewing who else ? In the Olympics. All Olympic teams. In nba 1992. Are full of mvps and all stars. And Jordan college USA teams crushed. Undefeated
People pleases here is the Top 10 players of all time 1. Micheal Jordan 2. Kobe Bryant 3.LeBron James 4. Magic Johnson 5. Larry Bird 6. Kareem 7. Stephen curry 8. Vince Carter 9. Tracy Mcgrady 10. Shaq
The crazy thing is that Michael Jordan doesn't care. They can all be in the same room with Lebron on one end and Jordan on the other. Everybody will be on Jordan's end while only the few fanboys will be on their knees, begging to talk to Lebron while he's crying about Michael getting all the attention.
Everybody the fanboy besides the one who knows Jordan doesn’t care as if he had direct contact with Jordan. You’re literally on here speaking for another man.
@EADevin lol u think lefron is bigger than Duncan or Hakeem? U might wanna google that. Hakeem is 7 feet tall with a 7' 6" wing span, and Duncan is basically a 7 footer
@EADevin Im relaxed champ, LeBron isn't bigger than Hakeem. U definitely dontknow basketball saying he can easily guard them. I guess he should have played center instead of SF SMH.
Dont nobody care Shannon about Lebron getting drafted out of high school. That wasn’t even allowed at the time in the 80’s. Just like it’s not allowed now.
So what lmaoo, yall try to discredit everything bron doing. If mj played 21 years at an elite level yall would be meat riding him. And def use that to discredit any player
@MalikMitchelle lebron played in one of the worst conferences of all time for most of his career and also plays in an era where there is almost no defense being played. He's great but lebron has benefited alot from the era he played in
Stephen A. makes a valid point. MJ has a done lot more in less time. LeBron is still trying to catch up MJ on a number of statistics. Championships, other trophies/titles, etc. Also, longevity doesn’t matter, cause John Stockton is the king of longevity. Look that those stat comparisons. Not on either side of the goat discussion, it’s just LeBron is still behind on a lot of stats compared to MJ.
The style of play is vastly different between the two. Lebron is a pass first player so naturally he is not considered killer instinct or whatever. Also when there is a statistic that favours lebron then you say longevity doesn't matter. He has highest number of points all time, then you say doesn't matter. Jordan got 6 rings but to me that doesn't matter since that is not even that many if you know 11 is the actual record. So I mean Jordan is not even good at 3 pointers. He is prob the worst in the league if he was in the league right now. So you can't use Statistics that only favours your idol. Jordan doesn't even pass the ball, not a strong passer. Defense I mean nobody plays defense anymore so is really boring obviously. But those days nobody shoots 3 either. Jordan wasn't surrounded by other great scorers, so naturally he shoots the ball like 35 times in a game haha. He should be average 50 points per game with that amount of attempts.
none of this actually matters in a GOAT debate it does in BOAT debate but not in a GOAT debate. Legacy and reverence? Did you push the game/league further than the guys who came before you? Once you start adding in those factors, Lebron is not even the GOAT in his own era when it comes to impact, legacy and where he pushed the game. Steph changed the way the entire planet plays basketball... Including Lebron James himself who is now for his career averaging more 3 pointers attempted per game than Larry Bird, Reggie Miller, and Chris Mullin... Lastly Michael Jordan in 2025 is still the most influential name in basketball. You can`t be the GOAT if you didn`t push the league or game beyond the point the guy or guys who came before you pushed it. This is not that difficult.
mj had 8 dominate years when magic and everyone else retired hence him doing so good mans was beating literal garbage men LMFAO lebron dethroned everyone he played against they said he was the goat so idgaf bout how many more games period
Stephen A's face at the beginning is EVERYONES face when you see it's another MJ vs Lebron GOAT debate on ESPN. That dead horse has been beat into dust
Lebron and mj never had a bad season... but stephen a smith shouldve mentioned that mj never had a below average playoff series in his career, lebrons had a number of below average playoff series in his career
a number? i'd like to see what number that is. because curry is definitely a finals wet blanket and no one questions his greatness all time. all i can remember is lebron dragging teams to finals that had no business being there for at least a decade (2007-2017).
@kingofhaiti123 LeBron played super teams at 18 and 19 with the cavs. Compare Jordan roster and lebrons at that age. You will see the difference. 1st Boston with kg Paul and Ray. Detroit with Rasheed prince and and two other all stars on that team. Plus dirk and mavs plus, lakers
Bro nobody is questioning Lebron greatness. We talking about who the GOAT is that’s one person and that will always be MJ no matter how hard you bronsexuals try lmao
@@nisis1 No one says Curry is the GOAT...they say he's the best shooter ever which lets be honest by %, by numbers and by eye test you can't argue this.
Oh please...lebron is ranked 12tg all time in boards per game at the small forward position. Dude ain't even top 5 at his own position. Jordan is ranked 3rd all time at the shooting guard position behind Jerry Sloan and Tom Gola. And lebron just passed MJ in offensive rebounds last year. Let that sink in. Dude is the only player in NBA history to have over 10,000 assists but not ranked top 15 in assists per game. Dude is 24th. Jordan is 2nd in steals per game at the shooting guard position. Lebron ain't even top 10 at his own position. Jordan is #1 in blocks at the shooting guard position and averages more blocks per game than lebron. And lebron ain't locking up no cats at various positions. Dude can't stop and barely guards the tip small forwards at his own position. Dude been in the league doggon 22 years and only made the defensive team 28% of the time. Has the record for the worse plus minus for an NBA finals career in history with a -86. Silly arguments, silly narratives. Manufactured debate.
@@benben8054you mean he would average at least 40pts 😂. If bums like Tatum can score like 30 a night then how can not Jordan? 😂😂😂 Can you look how many 40pt games MJ has compared to Lebron? This 30pt games achievement by LeBalco makes me laugh😂😂
Look at where each of them were at at year 15 when Jordan retired. Lebron probably had way more assist then Jordan because Bron was focused wayyyy more on play making than Jordan ever was focused on. The problem is that you shouldn’t compare Lebron and Jordan because their mindsets are different and that’s fine.
Not a debate . Mj played to win championships, LeBron plays for stats . Big difference . Mj is undefeated in finals and gold games . Everyone wears Jordan’s , not LeBrons . Mj played in a more physical era . Winning a scoring title , defensive first team , mvp and fmvp in the same season has only happened 4 times , and Mj won all 4 times . This is a manufactured debate for money and clicks . It’s not a real debate . Jordan’s clearly miles ahead of LeBron , offensively and defensively . I rest my case …
You do know Jordan was notorious for going over and checking the stat sheet right? Imagine going to 10 finals and only playing for stats lol you sound crazy
@ 😂 bruh stop it…MJ felt that first chip and shut down the Entire League took a year off came back and shut the ENTIRE League down again to win the rest..that’s called perfect..don’t care how many losses he took before and after..😂😂🍻
🎉Le4-6 James went to the party 10 times!!! and saw his datte, his girll leave to a mottel with another dude after the party 6 out of those 10 times!!!!! MJ🏀23 went to the party 6 times, and took the girl to the Mottel all 6 times!!!😎 ⛺️🌃
Games with 25+ field goal attempts: LeBron - 222 Jordan - 419 Games with 30+ field goal attempts: Lebron - 34 Jordan - 132 Games with 35+ field goal attempts: Lebron - 4 Jordan - 31 Case closed... Jordan was a shot chucker in a weak era. The fact that lebron is more efficient at scoring on way less field goal attempts says something.
😂😂😂😂😂😂 so with your logic MJ got 6 rings in 15 years which is 40% of his career he won a championship WHILE LeBum has 4 rings in 21 years with 19%!!! So MJ is more efficient in winning championships!!! CASE CLOSED!
Then they want to talk about how he was 18 when he came into the league … That argument also just reinforces once again how great MJ was … Came into the league at 21/22 and did what he did … So in less time MJ did wayyyy more than Bron
this debate is so dumb take away brons 3s and he isn't close to having near mj's numbers. mj averaged 38ppg without 3s scored 69 points without 3s. put mj in this era he is putting up 50ppg lebron had 3s and easy fouls mj played in a defensive era. bron played in a offensive era mj is the goat no debate 10 scoring titles- lbj 1
@@johnnyrico75 no 3s were not apart the era mj played in. but he could shoot them when he had to still holds the record for most 3s in a finals game. not even steph has that. if mj was in this era and knew that the 3 was apart of his game and used it like everyone els he would average 50 easy
4x regular season MVP while being 4x Finals MVP while being Defensive 1st team while leading the league in scoring Jordan Is the King 👑 of Goats 6/0 in the finals 😂😂😂😂 he should’ve went to LA with Phil 😂😂😂
@jamainethompson4851 uh duh!! The point is that they wanna use the argument that it took MJ more shots, but it not only took LJ more games but also more threes to pass MJ. You would think my point was obvious but apparently not! 🙄🤷🏽♂️
No one is hating. They just aren’t going to let you lebronstans lie and put importance on certain stats just to make him look better than mj. It’s not disrespect to say Jordan beats LeBron, he’s number 2 to the goat. Why does that bother you LeBronstans so much to hear mj is better?
Lol LBJ haters. Dude no hate, and its impressive that his been in the league for this long. What is more impressive is the Juice his on. Anyone who thinks his clean, needs to tell his hair line about the after effects of steroids. Still impressive as there are and were other players on the juice.
The NBA is a business and LeBron is their number one product. Regardless of how lousy or mediocre a season The Lakers may be having, sports media HAS to keep the primary product pumping. Pathetic.
I don’t know how anyone has ever taken Steve seriously. How does he command any respect ever? Even when he stumbles upon a decent point he’s embarrassing to watch.
The debate is easy. There’s one argument that can solidify the debate but it’s not addressed. Lebron has played 7 more seasons than Jordan but look at their finals and championship records. LeBron has not had great success in the post season. Yes he’s been to the finals a lot but has not won at the level that Jordan has.
That was a tough listen. Stephen A needs to shut up sometimes and everyone needs to stop yelling at the same time, bunch of grown babies talking sbout the same topic everyday
And i disagree because i went from Jordan to kareem to lebron back to jordan but now im sticking with jordan so some people definitely change they mind
@@marvinstokes4016 respectfully MVP reg season MVP finals first team all defense lead league in scoring only been done 4 times MJ MJ MJ And MJ.. no one else... Google it that says enough.. that's something Kobe didn't do and LeBron will never do he about to retire.. that record might not be touched for a long time
Bron is more versatile of a defender and can and is a better rebound and passer then Jordan plus Bron avg 27 a game for his career while Jordan is 30 a game while avg 23 shot attempts a game n Bron goes 19 shots a game
Lebron only guards the 1 or 5, 5% of his career. The versatility argument is overblown. And MJ played less and has way more all defensive team selections. So Jordan in his era was one of the best offensive and defensive players. And of course lebron averages more rebounds, based on his position (even though lebron isnt at the top of rebounding for his position)
Y can't people be fans of the game, the goat debate for the NBA has always seemed stupid to me because everyone that would be in the convo played different styles and in different eras so u cant compare steph and magic u can't compare bron and mj u can't compare kd and bird different times differents paces of the game different everything.
At this point the goat debate on espn has become a pure comedy show😂😂😂
Facts, whether who’s right or wrong. It atleast provides a good laugh!!!
@@kennethstone4590 Facts man, at this point we have reached episode 5241789 of the ESPN Goat debate🤣🤣
@@Merveillesfayossewo582 you got your opinion and facts say labron is better!”
it is 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Molly just needs to keep quiet and let the men argue to keep it goated tbh
Man i bet MJ probably be like "Dam they still talking about this" 😂
I know that’s right
na mj loves it because he always wins it lol
Facts. Jordan 6-0
Mann 😂😂
Nope Jordan dropped the documentary just to overshadow bron …and it worked lol
Up next: 40 point games.
MJ: 173
LeBron: 77
Good luck.
Lol don’t forget the fact that LeBron is behind the best 3 passing PGs IN NBA HISTORY!!!! LeBron doesn’t look to score. He scores when necessary
Jordan is the greatest scorer, but Lebron is a better all round player. Let just move on... Jordan is the greatest because of his effect on the game and his influence in creating opportunities for players selling the game to a wider audience...
Someone needs to remove Lebron's nuts off Shannon's chin
On million more shots good luck
Wha should be first is: 10-5-5 games over 1,200 or 15-5-5 games over 1000 or 20-5-5 games over 700 or 25-5-5 games over 300or 30-5-5 games over 150 for lbj while mj barely cracks 100 for each😂
If I played 47 years in the NBA I’d break every record too
It's unheard of. It's never happened. LeBron the only one posting stats like this for 20 years. He's the GOAT for longevity but Mike may be the best guard of all time overall. Kobe is close along with some others but MJ came at the right time. There will never be another MJ just like there will never be another LBJ. That's why SAS has them #1 and #2 respectively.
He don’t have the most attempts record
No you won’t. You would have stats like Haslem.
Vince Carter played 22 seasons and ain no where near a record.
@@DrPhill96 no lower stats haha they've been alive for over 20yrs so by their logic they should be a millionaire because they've just been here 20 yrs
same debate every day!!!!
Same debate 4L lol
And you still came to watch it and will continue to
@@anthonymorrison7296u will obviously
6-0 ➡️🏀🐐 MJ23
4-6 ➡️🤣🤣 Le4-6
Dont watch no one forcing you
Once Molly open her mouth she ruined it
CAN'T STAND HER
Her mic should be muted, right when the show starts.
I dunno why she can't shut up and let people finish their point. She herself made that conversation chaotic.
facts
Molly needs to be quiet
Shannon understands the goal isn’t to win the debate with logic, it’s to make Stephen A act out 😂
Jordan was a volume shooter. That is definitely logic.
Guess how quickly Lebron passed Jordan in 10 assist games....guess.
@@billycarter1798nobody cares. He’s not the greatest and everyone knows.
When he retires they’ll anoint Wemby to the VS Jordan debate
@billycarter1798 They say Kobe was a volume shooter, yet Lebron averages more attempts a game than Kobe. Lebron will get his shots
@@doogiebear139Kobe AKA Mamba was literally the top tier volume shooter...he took very difficult shots but that also made him the best bad shot maker in NBA history if gets deep
@@billycarter1798when he gone passing him in winning tho yall keep talking bout stats like lebron can take them home with him
This is insane.
L = Load manage
B = Balco
J = Join a superteam
L = LeGoat
B = Beats
J = JorShit
@@200machine8you don't know ball😂😂😂🤡
Molly voice is so annoying
Soo annoying bro thats how you know she only around because stephen A tappin that🤣🤣 you cant tell me they got rid of max but kept molly because she's valuable 🤣🤣
@@314UnderratedI mean apparently joy Taylor was smashing ancho for a better position over on fox so it wouldn’t surprise me
She fine though
@ word
Y'all sound like a broken record
No one:
ESPN: Weekly GOAT debate.
Shannon's very first day on "First Take", they had this debate. It wasn't even basketball season yet.
@@rcole718😂😂😂
Current state of the NBA is not worth talking about.
Haven’t had this conversation in months quit yapping 😂
@@nejczupan89 it’s been months you just want to be heard like a pick me 🏝️
LBJ got more 3's made than kyle korver and Kevin durant, does it mean he is a better 3-point shooter?
LMAO NOPE
He had Kyle Korver as a teammate to lehellllpp needed so much assistance and still not Better than KOBE or MJ
@@YR-cr9db Yeah because Kobe and mj did it by themselves. 🐐
Also has the record of 20 straight misses from 3 😂
nah, curry klay reggie ray and a dozen other dudes are ahead of him just like MJ, Kobe, Shaq, Magic and a dozen other dudes ahead of him in the GOAT debate.
in 2017 FInals it was debatable who the best player on the court was (KD, Steph Curry the back to back MVP, or Lebron).... during Jordan's era it was NEVER a debate who the best on the court was
Just proves that LeBron faced tougher competition lmao
Exactly proves how lebron was winning against super teams
@@lukeskywalkermod3686And How he was melting down against Dallas
@@lukeskywalkermod3686and making his own super teams and losing
@@agentsquido5908not necessarily. Take Jordan out of his era and the league is like it is now with teams taking turn winning titles. Lebron wasn’t the apex predator that Jordan was, which is why other superstars are winning as much as he has. If theres ever gonna be another Jordan the league will be seen as weak because no one else will seem like the are good enough to win
ESPN thinking we wont notice that they've posted this video once per week for the past 10 years.
Didn't LeBron just past Jordan? They be quick to sound off how many games LeBron did it in, then when someone mentions how manyshots it took , they don't want to talk about it anymore, and excuses soon follows. Same with LeBron's finals record. They be quick to sound off LeBron's finals record , but when you start talking about competition and advertisty, they don't want to talk about it anymore , excuses soon follows. Just wait until LeBron retires and folks start actually doing a deep dive into his career. Scary site.
😂😂😂
So what.. That's why they the GOATS..
True, but ya gotta admit…. It is hilarious🤣🤣🤣
That goal post moving will never make him better than Jordan.
There’s no such thing as a goal post in basketball 🏀 It’s called a hoop, there’s no goal post to move because it doesn’t exist in basketball
@Chu_Bandz sit you are an idiot.
nah Lebron fans just build new parts of the field and try to make that part of the game. Lebron could never reach the goal post, so we have to build new parts of the field trying to be like "Yeah jordan scored a touchdown, but Lebron got the high score on pacman"
@@Chu_Bandz sir put the phone down and go have a conversation in real life. Read also. Then come back and comment. But you are in fact the type of person trying to convince the people that Lebron is the 🐐
I don’t think Lebron better than Jordan but the way people troll his career because he isn’t is the problem. Dude one of the best players of all time and he’s still great after playing 22 seasons.
Molly needs to stop talking so much
She’s so annoying
Leave this woman alone.
She’s there to moderate that what she does if she didn’t you’ll have 3 guys talking over each other so stop the Molly hate
@@74sheliashe stinks
I thought y'all should be over this by now. Y'all are so annoying.
We still talking about a dude with a losing record in the championship round that skipped teams when the going got tough to form super teams and still wound up losing more than he won? This is the most forced conversation in sports history.
LBJ > MJ
@@DrPhill96🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢
@@lucianodadon7822 - 🐋🐋🐋🐋🐋
Nobody cares @this point! This debate has been beat to death & whoever anyone has as their GOAT is not changing, PERIOD!💯💯💯
As much as I hate to admit it,you're correct sir. I've fought for MJ in this debate harder than anyone and it rarely if ever makes a difference. To each their own 🤷🏾♂️
Thank you!
This comment is so true 😂 Lets stop this debate no one is changing theyre opinion
the 3 ball. This era loves the 3. if u hit more 3s ull have more point with fewer shots
Facts!
Your guy was living in a dorm calling his mom for stamps?? -Shannon
What kind of argument is that ? 😂
He wasn’t first overall pick. Not even second. How could the goat, the man who floats in air, how could he POSSIBLY be drafted third overall??!??
Lmao exactly 😂 that's how you know Shannon couldn't think of anything else 😅
@@Riscoflatz7 you have to be serious, theres context clues for a reason. During that era, most teams thought they needed a big man to win them a chip and portland already had clyde and wanted a center. Plus how could a man considered so clutch and still playing, have meltdowns in the finals and have his fans use hypotheticals to prop him up?
@@Riscoflatz7 and LeBron could score over Jj Barrea and let JJ Barrea outscore him off the bench. Eight points lol that’s no goat
@@Riscoflatz7Tom Brady was the very last player selected in his draft, so you’re saying nothing
We are so tired of this debate😂
First Take needs to start hyping other aspects of the NBA because once Lebron retires their NBA topics are cooked.
Me too, cause they never include Kobe. Who is better than LBJ.
Me too, cause they never include Kobe. Who is better than LBJ.
@@brandonwilliams1851 the kobe disrespect is unreal
Clearly not. You’re still watching and responding
This debate is so lovable
Michael Jordan never had a choke job and lost in the nba finals
Because he played bums
Yea those same bums that look like Jokics and Luka right?
@@ShaSavageishPlayed bums?? U joking right?? Bums?? Yeah ok pal
@@ShaSavageishAt least the players he plays show up. The guys nowadays always hurt so LeBron never plays teams full strength.
Yea he just lost in the first round
MJ in the dorm? MJ was just winning US gold as a amateur and a national championship as an amateur (last group of amateurs to win gold in basketball.) Jordan was a winner before 20. Lebron ain't won anything until he had a super team at age 26 and had already choked away one finals on said super team.
Basketball that doesn't happen in the NBA counts on your resume, Mr. Sharpe.
Long story short MJ was an amateur player while lebron was a proven professional.
No need to ramble aimlessly
Greatest
@@billycarter1798 Allow me to educate you. As an amateur and playing with only amateurs for team mates he beat NBA all stars such as Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, Kevin McHale, Robert Parish, Isiah Thomas Sr. and Mark Aguirre. Playing with amateurs against pros, he never lost against pros.
While Lebron couldn't make the playoffs, MJ was beating all stars with amateurs.
AND HE WASNT THE BEST ON NONE OF THOSE TEAMS
@@marvinstokes4016 you all caps crazy lol. This younger generation is addicted to mediocrity. lol
Why do they keep saying the players are more skilled now when these dudes can’t dribble without traveling?
Amen
Now THIS Is Fact ! 💯
Shut up
it's just gaslighting because nobody watches the nba anymore and they are trying to get ratings back. If they were really more skilled, the NBA would not keep dumbing down the rules year after year to make the game "more exciting"
🎯💯
Lebron guarded 1-5 because he block Tiago splitter one time I the finals, yea ok cut it tf out bro
You can’t switch teams 3 times😊 to get an edge, still lose 6 times in the finals, and be the GOAT. It’s over
exactly!!!!
lebron=🐐
Three cities 3 Jerseys in the Rafters one in my home state and the other two in the coolest cities in the USA and a Statue in at least two I'm sorry if that aint a legacy then I don't know what is. If we choose to forget Jordan's career losses in the playoffs which is actually part of getting to a final hello then we doing the same for Bron. Don't get shot in Chicago the King sitting pretty in South beach or Rodeo drive while running his own city, how's Charlotte?
@ I’m sorry you get props for building a dynasty where you’re at. Like Jordan, Magic, Bird, Duncan. Charles Oakley is Jordan’s best friend. He wouldn’t have gotten respect if when he couldn’t get past the Pistons he just went to join his friends Oakley and Ewing in NY.
LeBron kept switching teams for the easy way out. And he still lost 6 times in the finals. And he hasn’t even 3 peated once on 3 different teams. While Jordan 3 peated twice on the same team? He couldn’t even 3 peat once with Wade and Bosh? Jordan’s the GOAT.
Look at the teams bron played in the finals
CHRIS BROUSSARD ARGUES THE BEST CASES FOR MJ
Agreed
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I’m crying the first second of the video lmfaooo
Black on Black crime is not a Joke. You wallnut whip
I fast forward when SA talks
Shannon: Lebron was better because he has more points and MORE matters!
Also Shannon: Lebron having only 4 chips doesn't matter because more DOESNT matter.
Then Bill Russell the GOAT but again the numbers dont seem to matter on either side its ridiculous Jordan the Goat of the 90's, and Bron the GOAT of the 200'0's done everybody happy. lol
One is a team stay others are individual, I know it’s hard to understand
Will your guy was living in a dorm calling his mama for stamps
How is it not important Steve A
What in the hell ?
Was the 3 point line there in 79 🤔
Jordan also didn't play against zones
Zone defense was allowed starting 2001
Jordan never faced zone defenses......
LBJ at 18 had a great season
Jordan was in a dorm at 19 calling mom for gas money
My guy was in the Nba
Scoring isn't everything
Look at his assist
Look at his rebounds
Triple doubles
One of the greatest passers in history of the League
Being the scoring leader !!
LeBron is the Goat 🐐
Lbj avg 25 PPG at 40 years old
In MJs day the 3 point shot was nothing like today, also LeBron had to play 7 more years just to beat MJs record, this debate won't end unfortunately
Bro Lebron is the all time leading scorer, and shot way less shots that him. Stop with the casual arguments
That’s MJ FAULT, not staying in shape
Jordan Also came in at a time where he was the most athletic with speed n so on esp at the guard position n also on avg took 23 shots per game compared to Bron 19 on avg
And Lebron passed Jordan in all time scoring with 1200 less shot attempts, while being a pass first guy being 4th all time in assist, and top 30 in rebounding. Where’s as Jordan just jacks up shots and still Lebron passed him all time scoring with fewer shots ?
@@KingWest_What does that matter that he shot less? No OST of those attempts were at the rim,not clutch shots. You make no sense. It tool Lebum 7 more years,do you comprehend that? It's pure longevity and steroids,why are you even talking?
Not so fast
Jordan at 18’to 20. Winning college championships with the shot. Getting gold medals With nobody’s
Lebron was missing the playoffs getting bronze medals losing to putro Ricki and Greece lmao
You can’t win sharpe
Jordan the goat in basketball but played with major players hof's in Olympics
@ Okay Patrick Ewing who else ? In the Olympics. All Olympic teams. In nba 1992. Are full of mvps and all stars. And Jordan college USA teams crushed. Undefeated
idiot
..So Jordan was an amateur and Lebron was a professional basketball player? GOOD POINT DANGAYE3258
@@dandaye3258 gold medals with nobody's?? Da fuggg
People pleases here is the Top 10 players of all time
1. Micheal Jordan
2. Kobe Bryant
3.LeBron James
4. Magic Johnson
5. Larry Bird
6. Kareem
7. Stephen curry
8. Vince Carter
9. Tracy Mcgrady
10. Shaq
Magic is over lefake goat and get out curry out of this he us overrated and without kd and luck he is nothing
I’ll never understand why people choose to watch something they claim they’re sick of seeing and then complain about it 😒
Shannon moves the goal post more then I move my feet in a day lol
And him and Gilbert arenas do the same ...but they're both on clutch sports payroll
@@GeeCruz-rb3wt tired of having moron football players talk about basketbal.
It took lebum 6 more years to accomplish what mj took 13 years to do, its not the same
Yes on less shot attempts bro
@@keithmitchell8372LeBron took a bunch more 3’s
@@mingw2304that would be 3300 more.
@@mingw2304nobody was stopping Jordan from shooting 3s, he was just bad at it lol
Let me know how many years it takes Bron to get 6 chips, still waiting...
Please stop this debate seriously. It's Jordan and leave it alone
They know Jordan the goat they just need something to talk about 😂
Facts
He's not
Nah yall old noggas gotta stop acting like it’s not a debate
Exactly
Jordan is not the GOAT. The NBA sold Jordan to build it's brand. The media followed suit.
Where’s the SGA vid at
Best guard in the league. Might be the best player after joker
2nd best behind joker for sure
@@dunit4472I see y’all like 1 way players 😂😂😂 those 2 only offense no defense 😂😂😂
Why can’t Jokic make it back to the finals or SGA make passes the 2nd round 😂😂😂
@@gloryroad7452 who's the best player in the league right now?
The crazy thing is that Michael Jordan doesn't care. They can all be in the same room with Lebron on one end and Jordan on the other. Everybody will be on Jordan's end while only the few fanboys will be on their knees, begging to talk to Lebron while he's crying about Michael getting all the attention.
you the only one on your knees right now my guy.
Why are you crying? Is MJ your daddy? Did LeBron smash your wife? You are a loser.
Michael doesn't care but the timing of the doc was suspicious
@ 17 whole years after retirement like cmon😭
Everybody the fanboy besides the one who knows Jordan doesn’t care as if he had direct contact with Jordan. You’re literally on here speaking for another man.
This argument that lebron can guard 1-5 is ridiculous! So Lebron can guard Shaq, Hakeem, Duncan etc??
Nobody can guard Shaq bro come on now… the other 2 yes, he’s bigger.
@EADevin lol u think lefron is bigger than Duncan or Hakeem? U might wanna google that. Hakeem is 7 feet tall with a 7' 6" wing span, and Duncan is basically a 7 footer
@ I said bigger. Not taller. Not to mention he’s stronger, faster… LeBron can easily guard him bro relax.
@ that’s like saying wemby is bigger than lebron just cause he’s taller…. Stop it 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@EADevin Im relaxed champ, LeBron isn't bigger than Hakeem. U definitely dontknow basketball saying he can easily guard them. I guess he should have played center instead of SF SMH.
These conversations are just getting more and more idiotic
😂😂😂😂
No, they just don't like the facts...
Jordan being in a dorm makes his story better
Dont nobody care Shannon about Lebron getting drafted out of high school. That wasn’t even allowed at the time in the 80’s. Just like it’s not allowed now.
why stephen a didn’t mention this 😅
So what lmaoo, yall try to discredit everything bron doing. If mj played 21 years at an elite level yall would be meat riding him. And def use that to discredit any player
@@MalikMitchelle we commented on being drafted at 18, no one mentioned anything about playing 21 years lol. You trynna argue so bad
@@ilovewilljeff argue? Aint nobody arguing lmaoo.
@MalikMitchelle lebron played in one of the worst conferences of all time for most of his career and also plays in an era where there is almost no defense being played. He's great but lebron has benefited alot from the era he played in
LeBron is bigger and stronger than MJ so could have played in that error.
Stephen A. makes a valid point. MJ has a done lot more in less time. LeBron is still trying to catch up MJ on a number of statistics. Championships, other trophies/titles, etc. Also, longevity doesn’t matter, cause John Stockton is the king of longevity. Look that those stat comparisons.
Not on either side of the goat discussion, it’s just LeBron is still behind on a lot of stats compared to MJ.
Exactly Michael Jordan is just better
The style of play is vastly different between the two. Lebron is a pass first player so naturally he is not considered killer instinct or whatever. Also when there is a statistic that favours lebron then you say longevity doesn't matter. He has highest number of points all time, then you say doesn't matter. Jordan got 6 rings but to me that doesn't matter since that is not even that many if you know 11 is the actual record. So I mean Jordan is not even good at 3 pointers. He is prob the worst in the league if he was in the league right now. So you can't use Statistics that only favours your idol. Jordan doesn't even pass the ball, not a strong passer. Defense I mean nobody plays defense anymore so is really boring obviously. But those days nobody shoots 3 either. Jordan wasn't surrounded by other great scorers, so naturally he shoots the ball like 35 times in a game haha. He should be average 50 points per game with that amount of attempts.
none of this actually matters in a GOAT debate it does in BOAT debate but not in a GOAT debate. Legacy and reverence? Did you push the game/league further than the guys who came before you? Once you start adding in those factors, Lebron is not even the GOAT in his own era when it comes to impact, legacy and where he pushed the game. Steph changed the way the entire planet plays basketball... Including Lebron James himself who is now for his career averaging more 3 pointers attempted per game than Larry Bird, Reggie Miller, and Chris Mullin... Lastly Michael Jordan in 2025 is still the most influential name in basketball. You can`t be the GOAT if you didn`t push the league or game beyond the point the guy or guys who came before you pushed it. This is not that difficult.
mj had 8 dominate years when magic and everyone else retired hence him doing so good mans was beating literal garbage men LMFAO lebron dethroned everyone he played against they said he was the goat so idgaf bout how many more games period
longevity matters and Russell has more rings than MJ
Stephen A's face at the beginning is EVERYONES face when you see it's another MJ vs Lebron GOAT debate on ESPN. That dead horse has been beat into dust
Lebron and mj never had a bad season... but stephen a smith shouldve mentioned that mj never had a below average playoff series in his career, lebrons had a number of below average playoff series in his career
a number? i'd like to see what number that is. because curry is definitely a finals wet blanket and no one questions his greatness all time. all i can remember is lebron dragging teams to finals that had no business being there for at least a decade (2007-2017).
@kingofhaiti123 LeBron played super teams at 18 and 19 with the cavs. Compare Jordan roster and lebrons at that age. You will see the difference. 1st Boston with kg Paul and Ray. Detroit with Rasheed prince and and two other all stars on that team. Plus dirk and mavs plus, lakers
Bro nobody is questioning Lebron greatness. We talking about who the GOAT is that’s one person and that will always be MJ no matter how hard you bronsexuals try lmao
@@nisis1 No one says Curry is the GOAT...they say he's the best shooter ever which lets be honest by %, by numbers and by eye test you can't argue this.
@@nisis1 lolllll you way off topic, wat this gotta do wit curry?
Only debate worth having!!
Oh please...lebron is ranked 12tg all time in boards per game at the small forward position. Dude ain't even top 5 at his own position. Jordan is ranked 3rd all time at the shooting guard position behind Jerry Sloan and Tom Gola. And lebron just passed MJ in offensive rebounds last year. Let that sink in. Dude is the only player in NBA history to have over 10,000 assists but not ranked top 15 in assists per game. Dude is 24th. Jordan is 2nd in steals per game at the shooting guard position. Lebron ain't even top 10 at his own position. Jordan is #1 in blocks at the shooting guard position and averages more blocks per game than lebron. And lebron ain't locking up no cats at various positions. Dude can't stop and barely guards the tip small forwards at his own position. Dude been in the league doggon 22 years and only made the defensive team 28% of the time. Has the record for the worse plus minus for an NBA finals career in history with a -86. Silly arguments, silly narratives. Manufactured debate.
Facts
Well said 👏
Don’t care about goat debate cause there’s no point
LBJ > MJ
This debate will never end😂😂
ESPN is slowly dieing
It is trust me 🙄
Playing more games is bad but shooting more shots is good 🤔
Huh? LeBron shot more. 🤦🏾♂️
@@andrewbristow2817 I would imagine he shot more if he has played 7 more seasons than him. Not the gotcha moment you think it is.
@ That’s kinda my point. I don’t understand what the heck this yelling session is about
@@andrewbristow2817 its about every time bron beats something of jordaan's his fans gets in their feelings and starts nick picking about it.
LeBron took *FOUR THOUSAND* more shots to finally pass Jordan in 30 point games.
Longevity is cool, but it also exposes far behind LBJ is.
MJ is the goat your not telling me different
They stressing SAS out 😂😂😂
Lebron could easily be 2-8 in Finals. Thank Ray Allen and NBA stimulus package.
LMAO
Who cares! Let’s talk about skip and these 304s
Lmao
lol they would never
What is Molly's purpose? She just needs to shut up and let them talk.
Enough of this GOAT debate please… Jordan hardly Flops period
bruh Jordan would be shooting 20 FTs a game in todays NBA and have no issues locking up the other teams best player....
@@HypeRNT Jordan would be average in todays game
@@benben8054you mean he would average at least 40pts 😂. If bums like Tatum can score like 30 a night then how can not Jordan? 😂😂😂
Can you look how many 40pt games MJ has compared to Lebron? This 30pt games achievement by LeBalco makes me laugh😂😂
Look at where each of them were at at year 15 when Jordan retired. Lebron probably had way more assist then Jordan because Bron was focused wayyyy more on play making than Jordan ever was focused on. The problem is that you shouldn’t compare Lebron and Jordan because their mindsets are different and that’s fine.
U do understand Jordan averaged a triple double when playing point guard... the team just simply asked him to play sg and back then u played your role
Jordan wanted to WIN and surpass Magic and bird. And he did JUST that....
Not a debate . Mj played to win championships, LeBron plays for stats . Big difference . Mj is undefeated in finals and gold games . Everyone wears Jordan’s , not LeBrons . Mj played in a more physical era . Winning a scoring title , defensive first team , mvp and fmvp in the same season has only happened 4 times , and Mj won all 4 times . This is a manufactured debate for money and clicks . It’s not a real debate . Jordan’s clearly miles ahead of LeBron , offensively and defensively . I rest my case …
Facts…🍻
Jordan got 6 rings. How many years he played? 15 so that makes him 6-15. Nobody ever talk about how he lost those other 9 times!
You do know Jordan was notorious for going over and checking the stat sheet right? Imagine going to 10 finals and only playing for stats lol you sound crazy
@ 😂 bruh stop it…MJ felt that first chip and shut down the Entire League took a year off came back and shut the ENTIRE League down again to win the rest..that’s called perfect..don’t care how many losses he took before and after..😂😂🍻
@@deadflies4265 Lies bro . If mj played for stats , he wouldn’t have retired twice fool . You fanboys will make up anything to discredit the goat .
After this Shannon said "The only child that had more on his shoulders, they spoke about him in the Bible." 😆
😂😂😂😂😂
Blasphemy
I love when Stephen A say he’s number 2 geez all act like I said he number 10 he’s number 2 !
lol because anytime he acts like it’s a crime bron is at it’s goes both ways pause
There’s never been a LeBron. 40yrs old.
🎉Le4-6 James went to the party 10 times!!! and saw his datte, his girll leave to a mottel with another dude after the party
6 out of those 10 times!!!!!
MJ🏀23 went to the party 6 times, and took the girl to the Mottel all 6 times!!!😎
⛺️🌃
Mj average 20 could have had more if not injury at 40
@@internet2055diddy files
@@internet2055 getting to the finals is an accomplishment.
Games with 25+ field goal attempts: LeBron - 222
Jordan - 419
Games with 30+ field goal attempts: Lebron - 34
Jordan - 132
Games with 35+ field goal attempts: Lebron - 4
Jordan - 31
Case closed... Jordan was a shot chucker in a weak era. The fact that lebron is more efficient at scoring on way less field goal attempts says something.
😂😂😂😂😂😂 so with your logic MJ got 6 rings in 15 years which is 40% of his career he won a championship WHILE LeBum has 4 rings in 21 years with 19%!!! So MJ is more efficient in winning championships!!! CASE CLOSED!
This debate has reached comedic levels at this point 😂😂
Then they want to talk about how he was 18 when he came into the league … That argument also just reinforces once again how great MJ was … Came into the league at 21/22 and did what he did … So in less time MJ did wayyyy more than Bron
In a watered-down era Sir y didn't he do that in the 80s he was getting bounced out in the first round
@@keithmitchell8372 what do you mean, he was stacking accolades in the 80s too lol
You forgot that he also quit bball for like 2 straight season. So he also did it in less season. Its crazy how they mention LBJ doing it quicker.
SA nailed it.... Jordan's era was nothing like today's Tampon era, MJ would avg 50 pts a game easily if he played today.
CAP.... probably 40
@@leonbass3468and Lose
@@DossBoyVidz or win.. we'll never know
@@DossBoyVidz but never in the finals. Sure wouldnt be outscored by Jason Terry
He’d be losing without Phil too
Molly is just… not smart 🤦🏾♂️
this debate is so dumb take away brons 3s and he isn't close to having near mj's numbers.
mj averaged 38ppg without 3s scored 69 points without 3s. put mj in this era he is putting up 50ppg
lebron had 3s and easy fouls mj played in a defensive era. bron played in a offensive era
mj is the goat no debate
10 scoring titles- lbj 1
Take pippen away mj ain't got no finals appearance. FOH
The 3 was available in Jordan’s day.
Who are you again?
Why would you take away something that's part of the game ? Is it because MJ wasn't proficient at it?
@@johnnyrico75 no 3s were not apart the era mj played in. but he could shoot them when he had to still holds the record for most 3s in a finals game. not even steph has that. if mj was in this era and knew that the 3 was apart of his game and used it like everyone els he would average 50 easy
8:08 I KNOW molly did NOT just call them out for talking over each other😂😂😂 whole time that is all she be doing 😂😂😂😂
Her interrupting to steer the conversation and tell them to not talk over eachother is literally her job.
A moderator isn't supposed to come with opinions and give them while talking over the panel.
i thought Swagu took a shot at 5:04 but it's just a tiny water bottle. This debate would do that to ya for sure 😂😂
4x regular season MVP while being 4x Finals MVP while being Defensive 1st team while leading the league in scoring Jordan Is the King 👑 of Goats 6/0 in the finals 😂😂😂😂 he should’ve went to LA with Phil 😂😂😂
If you wanna talk about shot total, don't forget to look at how many threes LeBron took to reach his total in comparison to Jordan!! 🤷🏽♂️
U do know threes was always apart of basketball what's ur point
@jamainethompson4851 uh duh!! The point is that they wanna use the argument that it took MJ more shots, but it not only took LJ more games but also more threes to pass MJ. You would think my point was obvious but apparently not! 🙄🤷🏽♂️
Does that matter....he still getting buckets.
@undiscoveredtruths4175 then rather Jordan missed more shots or not shouldn't matter either because he was "still getting buckets"!!🤷🏽♂️
@adarrylljacksonsr7525 lebron passed jordan on the same shots by 1600 points. U on drugs meatriding mj.
Finally a new topic
Mj had more defensive teams AND dpoy
How many times bro?
Okc v Celtics was a great basketball match!
And they still talking about the same old topic
MJ is the Goat point blank. LB is great he is the 2nd goat
STEPHEN A and many other LEBRON HATERS be trying to hate on Lebron's LONGEVITY,
like it's something just easy & simple to accomplish 😆 🤣
No one is hating. They just aren’t going to let you lebronstans lie and put importance on certain stats just to make him look better than mj. It’s not disrespect to say Jordan beats LeBron, he’s number 2 to the goat. Why does that bother you LeBronstans so much to hear mj is better?
Lol LBJ haters. Dude no hate, and its impressive that his been in the league for this long. What is more impressive is the Juice his on. Anyone who thinks his clean, needs to tell his hair line about the after effects of steroids. Still impressive as there are and were other players on the juice.
Lebron has the accomplishment of being the most consistent of all time, not the GOAT tho, top 5 players all time both em
The NBA is a business and LeBron is their number one product. Regardless of how lousy or mediocre a season The Lakers may be having, sports media HAS to keep the primary product pumping. Pathetic.
1:20 Tell it SAS!!!
I don’t know how anyone has ever taken Steve seriously. How does he command any respect ever? Even when he stumbles upon a decent point he’s embarrassing to watch.
Why are you here then 😂
He was extremely good when he mainly wrote. Things went south once he got on tv.
The debate is easy. There’s one argument that can solidify the debate but it’s not addressed. Lebron has played 7 more seasons than Jordan but look at their finals and championship records. LeBron has not had great success in the post season. Yes he’s been to the finals a lot but has not won at the level that Jordan has.
u think mj could beat kd steph klay and draymond?
@@champryans4630Hell no especially without Scottie 😅😅😅😅
@@champryans4630you think if LeBron didnt play sub 50 win teams 58% of the time in his Conference playoffs that he's make the Finals that much?
@@keithmitchell8372 thank you!
@@mikerobinson6969 bruh shut up… yall know mike sucked😂😂 that boy had no left hand
That was a tough listen. Stephen A needs to shut up sometimes and everyone needs to stop yelling at the same time, bunch of grown babies talking sbout the same topic everyday
This segment is like you,your dad and your uncle arguing at cookout😂😂😂
do people really still get into these MJ/Lebron debates? Whoever you like, you like at this point, no one's mind is getting changed.
Great barbershop talk bro its gonna be a long time before this conversation isn't talked about, at least 5 years
And i disagree because i went from Jordan to kareem to lebron back to jordan but now im sticking with jordan so some people definitely change they mind
Lebron is number 3, Mike is number 1 Kobe number 2, but Kobe is my goat 💯💪🏾🐐💜💛
I agree Kobe gang gang
Wow I respect the honesty you said Mike number 1 although Kobe your goat... 🫡💪🏾
KOBE IS YOUR GOAT BUT MJ IS #1??? MAKE IT MAKE SENSE PLEASE....
@@marvinstokes4016 who game did Kobe mirror? Who did he base it off of.. that's just a piece I can add more.. I understood why he said what he said.
@@marvinstokes4016 respectfully MVP reg season MVP finals first team all defense lead league in scoring only been done 4 times MJ MJ MJ And MJ.. no one else... Google it that says enough.. that's something Kobe didn't do and LeBron will never do he about to retire.. that record might not be touched for a long time
Molly didn't wait long to interrupt. SMH
LeBron would destroy the 90s, like he was doing at 13/14 and people saying he was ready for the NBA…
Michael Jordan TOOK 3,000 MORE SHOTS ?
2s 2s 2s 2s 2s 2s 2s 2s over 50% shooting
Yeah lol Jordan was the first volume shooter
Bron literally shot more than 5000 threes than Mj yall Lebum are really blind and ignorant
Hahaha. That sounds significant. I don't know, though. Airsexuals can explain it best
Lebron took more 3 point shots and played in more games
Ah yes, the annual goat debate
Weekly. I’m here for it tho
@@ucbucb30everyday in the green room
i wish shannon takes over this show so bad.
We know Lefraud attended a Diddy party but Espn you guys make it too obvious what he did at those parties. Smh
Come on bro relevancy, relevancy , you like the ugly girl in the friend group saying" what about me"🤣🤣 like nobody even thinking about that
Can you talk about players that matter right now like the current MVP frontrunner, SGA?
Jokic is MVP frontrunner however sga is now 2nd
It’s a long show…they talk about that too
@@Downtown7637Jokic is the best player in the league
Jordan a better offensive player and he is a better defensive player! Game over debate done !
Bron is more versatile of a defender and can and is a better rebound and passer then Jordan plus Bron avg 27 a game for his career while Jordan is 30 a game while avg 23 shot attempts a game n Bron goes 19 shots a game
And Jordan got straight men as fans
Lebron only guards the 1 or 5, 5% of his career. The versatility argument is overblown. And MJ played less and has way more all defensive team selections. So Jordan in his era was one of the best offensive and defensive players. And of course lebron averages more rebounds, based on his position (even though lebron isnt at the top of rebounding for his position)
@celestialeffigy4382 facts
@celestialeffigy4382 Shannon trying to get some baby oil
I kept telling ppl its all about his stats for the lakers nothing else
10:24 Shannon has to be a gif. Hilarious.
Hands down.
The face at 10:41 has me dying!🤣
😂😂😂😂😂😂
If Jordan never retired he would have eight rings in a row and we wouldn't even be talking about this
If Jordan never quit and took that well needed break his body would have broken down like GSW did after their run.
Bron got 4 out of 10 !!!! Bryant got five out of seven, what are we talking about!
@@billycarter1798lmao baby bron
Why we talking about this? Lakers lost last night
Why you click on the video then? 🤨 you obviously wanna hear it
They only lost by 4 points to the second seed and they are the 5th seed
@@Mr.CalCalright like 🤣 I don’t understand why ppl be so pressed for
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😅😅😅😅@@rohangupte3545
Y can't people be fans of the game, the goat debate for the NBA has always seemed stupid to me because everyone that would be in the convo played different styles and in different eras so u cant compare steph and magic u can't compare bron and mj u can't compare kd and bird different times differents paces of the game different everything.