Audi A7 3.0TDI 4G8 ratteling sound from engine? This is what we found inside ...

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  • Hoodies link : vagtechnic.uk/...
    This A7 was delivered to us from London. Owner contacted us with an irregular chain rattle. As you can see in the video the plastic brackets were broken due to the oil tensioner not holding pressure. Main dealer supplied an upgraded oil tensioner with an O ring seal as you can see in the video . We also sort out coolant leaks at the same time from the front of the engine. If you have similar issues you can contact us directly.
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ความคิดเห็น • 863

  • @edgarasvas
    @edgarasvas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Because of that background music, I can barely understand what he speaks

    • @VAGTechnic
      @VAGTechnic  2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Do apologies, we done some improvements since .

    • @peterelmer9114
      @peterelmer9114 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Great engineering skills but terrible soundtrack; music awful and too loud, commentary barely audible !

    • @Povillys
      @Povillys 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What should be the price of this job?

    • @Povillys
      @Povillys 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@VAGTechnic price of this job please

    • @mosuhu
      @mosuhu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes I agree with this. The video is extremely useful but that music makes it very hard to understand what you're saying. For informative vids like this the music should either be removed or subdued a whole lot.

  • @davidbrad1903
    @davidbrad1903 2 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    Yet another brilliant camshaft drive system , designed by accountants, plus the amazing maintenance cost savings to the customer with its 20,000 miles oil changes , stunning . .you couldn't make it up.

    • @hedydd2
      @hedydd2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      When you consider that it is only just due its third oil change, the wear in these parts is appalling. I had an early one and sold it at 60,000 miles although I had changed the oil annually at between 12,000 and 15,000 miles. I don’t think for one moment that shorter oil change intervals would have saved any wear on the nylon guides in the above engine though. The fact that the new parts are modified from the original tells you all you need to know.

    • @prontoworld5963
      @prontoworld5963 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Haha 😄 the bmw lifetime transmission oil.

    • @em4703
      @em4703 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@hedydd2 It does make a difference, it's the soot in the oil that does the wear. I have 300k miles with original timing chain and rails, still no stretch. Oil changed at 7k miles.

    • @thepharcyde8285
      @thepharcyde8285 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@prontoworld5963 Yes it is funny how Bmw main dealer says we don't need to change the oil on the zdf gearbox. As I don't have spare few thousand pounds for a new gearbox I spent 600£ for new oil sump and filter plus new oil.

    • @NoName-rs4us
      @NoName-rs4us ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thats that but i think we also have to blame the enormously tight EU norm emission regulations...i think.
      To evolve and produce higher performance engines each generation savings need to be taken into consideration...i think.
      Back in the day 1.9 td were unstoppable... that i know...

  • @syncrosimon
    @syncrosimon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +240

    That’s disappointing for a 5 year old 60k mile engine, thank goodness you have the skills and confidence to fix. Great work.

    • @brk932
      @brk932 2 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      Garbage plastics sold as premium products. Chain is prone to stretching. Tensioner is designed to fail.

    • @CaliCarCulture
      @CaliCarCulture 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      The older 3.0tdi engines are actually better, if people changed the oil ever 15k km it would help aswell.

    • @sydsnott5042
      @sydsnott5042 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      I think disappointing is an understatement. More like disgusting, atrocious, downright conning of the people who buy these cars.

    • @MrDejast
      @MrDejast 2 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      Disappointing to whom? I love vw and Audi. Put 2 kids through college, take wonderful vacations, and paid for a modest home. So no worries here from a European auto technician.

    • @sydsnott5042
      @sydsnott5042 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@MrDejast That's very well. That particular engine had poor quality chain guides from a poor batch which somehow got through quality control systems. Therefore it is most probable that many more of those engines with that batch of duff chain guides will suffer the same outcome. Not all VW/Audi cars are bad just like all other car brands. Unfortunately however lapses in quality control of engine part manufacturers causes negative reviews of the car as a whole. You have been lucky with your VW/Audi cars and I've been lucky with my Rover/MG Ford Lexus cars and not forgetting the UR Quattro I had for nearly 8 trouble free years.

  • @mazdaman1286
    @mazdaman1286 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    These problems were known off from the start by the manufacturer. The first owner would almost never experience these failures , they would happen to the second or third owner by which time the warranty had expired and the manufacturer couldn't care less. Dealerships price the older cars out of their workshops. At BMW it was made clear older cars were a problem and not wanted, simple jobs could escalate into broken studs, sheared bolts and stripped threads ,these were left to other workshops.

    • @aeroflopper
      @aeroflopper 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      i made a fortune doing jobs the main BMW dealer would not do, they only give there cars a ten year life.

    • @krtolebiohazardcs1.681
      @krtolebiohazardcs1.681 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is it common for 1.6 TDI?

    • @isakjohansson7134
      @isakjohansson7134 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aeroflopper How can a BMW dealership refuse to fix a BMW? 🤔

    • @khronin
      @khronin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@isakjohansson7134 They won't--they will just tell you some astronomical cost like 7k for everything that way if anything goes wrong you paid for an engine.BTW they forget to mention that shortly after the warranties goes out on many german brands and ford--even if the car seems fine--when you take it in for an oil change they find 1k worth of shiot wrong everytime--making every basic service after the warranty a 1k bs repair they say needs to be done.

    • @aeroflopper
      @aeroflopper 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@isakjohansson7134 probably don't want to so they put a really high price on the jobs on older cars. ask them to change an injector for you on a 15 yr old diesel, they say they don't get involved.

  • @thomasmazzola4760
    @thomasmazzola4760 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    My 2012 Toyota Tacoma has 325,890 miles. I’ve changed the oil every 5k miles, coolant change, alternator. That is it. Why does Audi build such complex shit? I can see having these problems at 150- 200k miles.
    Your an incredible mechanic. Great channel

    • @isaachunt5799
      @isaachunt5799 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      yep complete and utter shit these cars. fanboys and bragging rights. these morons think buying an audi gives them bragging rights.
      i think anyone that buys any VAG car needs their head looking at.
      not only these issues but horrendous rust i see daily on fairly new audis and vw's.
      COMPLETE AND UTTER SHITE ALL VAG CARS

    • @aaronjohnson9755
      @aaronjohnson9755 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Power and economy. Your Tacoma's engine has nothing on these German turbo diesels.

    • @isaachunt5799
      @isaachunt5799 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aaronjohnson9755 lol economy?
      what planet you on ffs.
      i loan my bosses diesel vw sometimes. no different to my car.
      only an utter fucking moron buys this over complicated shite.
      plus this junk rusts like hell here in sweden. i see fairly new audis and vw's totaly rotten.
      i'll stick with kia as a daily driver and my 2017 chevy camaro summer car.

    • @pliedtka
      @pliedtka 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They build it because they can, and people like new cool toys.

    • @isaachunt5799
      @isaachunt5799 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pliedtka and most people dont want a car thats engineered so only a rocket scientist can repair the junk.
      you give me a top of the range audi for free i'de get rid of it immediatly. zero interest in owning something over engineered.
      only an utter moron would buy this shite. some even loan money for it aswell lol.
      see a 2006 audi today btw. so rusty the drivers door was missing about 6 inches at the bottom lol

  • @luxoriusbg
    @luxoriusbg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    My 3.0 q7 tdi from 2009 has already a 240 000km and the engine is in great condition. Everything comes from the "long life" oil change which in my opinion is a myth. Changing my oil with OEM one on each 10k km is the key for keeping the engine healthy and preventing the chain rattle.

    • @mattiwolfinger4043
      @mattiwolfinger4043 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I have an audi 3.0 tdi from 2006 with 292.000 km, run as new car 😁

    • @chaseandrews9354
      @chaseandrews9354 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      240 is still low for a diesel, keep doing 10k oil changes with the bare minimum for oil and it'll never see 340.

    • @jamesm1736
      @jamesm1736 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Hi I have 2008 a6 3.0tdi 220 000 miles or 354 000 km still going strong service every 5000 - 6000 miles

    • @gogs244
      @gogs244 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes regular oil changes on any car to avoid chain rattle

    • @matsrekdal3065
      @matsrekdal3065 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      As explained in the video, the oil tensioner is upgraded, original from Audi, so the old one is clearly of poor quality.
      It's not about longlife.
      Sure, that might play a role in the long run, but take my car as an example:
      2016 A6 Allroad 3.0 tdi 211 hp.
      Timing chain job was done under warranty in 2018, at 37.000 miles (service nr. 2).
      At such an early stage, it's pretty obvious it's not about longlife.
      Poor quality, plain and simple.

  • @stillasgoodasnew
    @stillasgoodasnew ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Loose the music

  • @Marszczak
    @Marszczak 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    No, I give up. Please pay attention to the audio levels. Lower the “music” level and increase your voice level. Also, fix the audio duck.

  • @megamediker
    @megamediker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Very interesting vid, so thank you very much. I feel like putting the chain at the backside of the engine is one of the worst things that can be constructed. This is a good example, that you must be very careful considering these types of engine anyhow. I would definitively not buy one of these, period. Plus, these engines have so much torque, that they disintegrate themselves, once the glorious drivers means to use all of it. I like Audi a lot, however this is not it!!!
    The audio is a bit problematic, especially when music comes together with it. So, if you could use a mike, that you wear on your chest, we could understand you much better.
    Thanks, Roland from good old Germany. (another subscriber)

    • @VAGTechnic
      @VAGTechnic  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks for watching and subscribing , we try to improve the sound .
      Most of chain drive engines have chains in the back because of weight distribution… once they go , big job

    • @gtgarageua6901
      @gtgarageua6901 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      audi put timing gers on the back, for better weight distribution. Yeah, Audi overloaded fwd

    • @gilsonrogeriolimaoliveira2807
      @gilsonrogeriolimaoliveira2807 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If the chain were on the front it would also require an engine out. These German cars have zero space to work on the engine.

  • @georgedroy5680
    @georgedroy5680 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This happened to my A6 TDI at 80k miles and it cost me £4000 to repair, no mention of it being a common problem. Audi should have picked up cost for what should be lifetime durable item.

    • @joshfoley8862
      @joshfoley8862 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lack of maintenance.
      I wish people would take responsibility for their own vehicles and not blame everyone else.

  • @petertorda5487
    @petertorda5487 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    A8 D3 4.0TDI, timing chain survived 360k km, but camshafts has been worn out pretty badly due to 30k long life oil change interval. In the end it required also new turbos and to rebuild injectors, as they have been leaking badly, maybe result of amaterish chiptuning, which needs to be deleted, and was replaced by orig software. Since after that (5years back), car running absolutely fine without issues. :-)

    • @jamesm1736
      @jamesm1736 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice, how many miles is it on now?

    • @petertorda5487
      @petertorda5487 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jamesm1736 Hi, currently 410k km. Recently I was driving only short trips, especially last 2years. :-)

    • @florrieflorrie4577
      @florrieflorrie4577 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi peter what oil are you using, 30k long life , I thought its fully synthetic Mobil 1 only recommends 15k , thanks

    • @petertorda5487
      @petertorda5487 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@florrieflorrie4577 Hi, previous owner was keeping it there such as long. After engine repair I'm changing oil regularly every 15k km, or ones per year (what come sooner). Oil is there Shell Helix Ultra Professional AV-L. I guess that original idea of 30k km oil change interval was mostly due to highway long distance usage, as owner will not needs to change oil every 2-3 months, but many people keep it there for 2years with driving in city. :-)

  • @PurityVendetta
    @PurityVendetta 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    What an unimpressive and somewhat over complex engine. For all that complexity and sophistication it's only managed 60k before needing this fairly major overhaul. I'd love to know how much this little job cost. Please tell me this was a design fault or a QC problem with this batch of tensioner blades.
    The musak is unbearable.

    • @stevendegreef93
      @stevendegreef93 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My engine was dated 2007, they have all the same issues! Chain tensioner too weak. Rattling galore

    • @PurityVendetta
      @PurityVendetta 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@stevendegreef93 Sounds very expensive to repair. If manufacturers are going to make engines so complex then reliability and longevity must be prioritized. I run an ancient Land Rover Discovery 2 TD5 that has covered 190k with relatively little other than regular maintenance. It also bothers me the number of cars needing 'body off' to carry out engine work. Not everyone wants to pay main stealerships and not everybody has access to lifts.

    • @asdfasdf-rb3oq
      @asdfasdf-rb3oq 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      replacing a timing chain tensioner is not a major overhaul .

    • @4vepvik781
      @4vepvik781 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@asdfasdf-rb3oq It is on that Audi!,🙄

    • @georgedroy5680
      @georgedroy5680 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cost me £4000, as replacing requires engine to be removed😤

  • @MrMarcus5191
    @MrMarcus5191 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    As a former automation and machine designer I do have reservations about how thin the edges of the chain guides are. If I were looking at this I would have certainly considered a raised ridge down the center of the chain guide that the rollers could bear on instead of the sharpish edges of the chain links....

    • @MikaelLevoniemi
      @MikaelLevoniemi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's Audi for you. Normal stuff for them, don't bother with used audis (or earlier 2000s bmws, same issues) unless you are prepared for engine outs.

    • @the_famous_reply_guy
      @the_famous_reply_guy 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Its deliberate obviously, the Germans have turned into shisters.

  • @Chrisvrscrx
    @Chrisvrscrx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video content. Difficult to hear some of the speaking due to background music

  • @mintsauce101
    @mintsauce101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Had my Allroad done under warranty @ 40k miles, however they also put in new cams due to wear initiated by the lazy hydraulic chain tensioner. Very common on these engines.

    • @richmarshall246
      @richmarshall246 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup also had this done on my 2015 A6 allroad @52k miles. They also replaced the oil pump as they think this was the reason my tensioner failed in the first place with being starved of oil or giving low oil pressure

    • @jmy6050
      @jmy6050 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very common on most Audi engines. Same issue on my 3.2fsi V6.

    • @johnjerrehian4642
      @johnjerrehian4642 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jmy6050 My 05 A6 with the 3.2 has 267,000 miles on it. Never had any of these issues. However, my wife drives this car and at start up at times I can hear them rattle so it's getting there, (but not worth fixing).

    • @pliedtka
      @pliedtka 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I guess the oil starvation is also related to lower viscosity of the oil currently used. Maybe 5w-40 is a safer choice.

  • @calasmallorca1183
    @calasmallorca1183 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I would love to see this same video with an explanation while you disassemble the timing components and when you set the timing on assembly

  • @Thecrazyvaclav
    @Thecrazyvaclav 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Id love to know who thought it's a good idea to put plastic inside an engine, knowing it's going to get heat cycled and disintegrate, cuts costs I suppose, and breaks well out of warranty

    • @VAGTechnic
      @VAGTechnic  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What else would you put there ?

    • @lauraiss1027
      @lauraiss1027 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Your car also has plastic chain tensioners. There are different types of plastic and there are people that do not have an idea what they talk about.

    • @VinDieselS70
      @VinDieselS70 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Even my old 1972 BMW 2000 touring had plastic/ bakelite camchain guides and they never failed despite having over 500'000 Km on the engine before I had it between 1984 and 1992.

    • @gnarlykoala
      @gnarlykoala 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They should use high grade Delrin plastic from Dupont.

    • @Thecrazyvaclav
      @Thecrazyvaclav 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don't drive, which is probably why I have no idea what I'm on about

  • @mart446
    @mart446 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Next time when you drop the oilpan, drop the music aswell :)

  • @mussegt
    @mussegt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a Mercedes C218, CLS 350 CDI (OM642) with 295000 km (183304 MILES) without problems. Thank God I didn't choose Audi (Overpriced Volkswagen) A7 or BMW 6 series. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_CLS-Class_(C218)

  • @ДенисНекрасов-г5ъ
    @ДенисНекрасов-г5ъ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why do you speak Moldavian..... Or it's Albanian....

  • @tomaschovan3675
    @tomaschovan3675 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Chain tensioner is common problem for this engine. It's small problem that require huge amount of work. Not exactly what you expect from luxury brand car. Disappointing for every Audi owner. Nice job. 👍

  • @Howt-ooo
    @Howt-ooo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love hate audi so much. My A7 mechatronics unit went. Mental money to fix. You guys do amazing work 😁

  • @yyz125
    @yyz125 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    It's amazing how audi, bmw, mercedes timing chain guides deteriorate..and tensioner failure..I never see it on toyota, ford duratec chain engines...it's sad because I love audis..
    You do beautiful work!

    • @VAGTechnic
      @VAGTechnic  3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Very very very long time a go when we use to do any car , Honda’s and Toyta never had problem with stretch chains , they just snapped straight away 😂

    • @yyz125
      @yyz125 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@VAGTechnic ok

    • @toeknee2u
      @toeknee2u 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If I was a conspiracy theorist, I might wonder if Audi/VW weren't looking to recover some of the lost trade in cambelts they used to have.......

    • @miroslavivanov6809
      @miroslavivanov6809 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@VAGTechnic Yes maybe in 1000000 kilemeters :D

    • @janmatusiak1380
      @janmatusiak1380 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I changed the timing belt on my 1993 Toyota corolla at 150k and 300k miles and engine still going strong at 327k miles .This thing won't die. lol

  • @paulmcdonald8055
    @paulmcdonald8055 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Amazing Skills and Knowledgeable Guys!
    Job well done!
    Modern engines over complicated and just thrown out there to comply with emissions and massed produced regardless!
    I have always raised an eyebrow regarding timing chains running along plastic tensioners and how long they last?
    Something’s gotta give eventually!
    Even my APX 1.8 turbo 20v with a cambelt driven exteriorly with a timing chain inside, Why????
    Interfearing engines! 😠😡😢😱🙆🏻‍♂️🙈
    Gone are the good old days!
    Pitty!
    Time moves on!
    Thanks for a great video! 👍💪

    • @grahamek86
      @grahamek86 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The good old days? Of what? Non interference engines? You mean low compression, low power, low efficiency engines? People want their cake and eat it these days. You don't get 240-260hp from a diesel engine that's good on fuel and has low emissions without some intricate engineering. Most of these "design flaws" only rear their head once the car has been neglected and not serviced correctly. Excessive oil change intervals, poor quality oils and mechanically unsympathetic driving. I have customers with 1 or 2 owner cars with 3-400k on the clock that are looked after religiously.

  • @tonychamberlain8057
    @tonychamberlain8057 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It’s a shame I can’t hear what you’re telling me when there is a cow mooing in the background

  • @sttm1283
    @sttm1283 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    damn. thats a lot of parts to keep track of. looks so easy when a pro does it :D i am in the process of going from bmw f30 to either A6 allroad 2017 and up or a6 3.0tdi(the 272hp version) 2018 or up. when looking at all of these videos i get the feeling that there are many problems with the audi engines. or are these just monday examples.

  • @racekar80
    @racekar80 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I used to worry about timing belts, American V8 engines almost never have problems, but now with variable valve timing almost every engine has problems with chain guides, the chain it self, or some other issue. Designers and engineers are making things worse, throw away cars.

    • @pliedtka
      @pliedtka 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      All thanks to CAFE - lower fuel consumption, more efficiency, more HP, more torque, bigger chassis. First it was 5w-20 use in engines designed for 5w-30, then thinner rings, then VVT with chains. Overly complicated ticking road bombs - all in the name for progress.

  • @V10PDTDI
    @V10PDTDI 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    people are asking for no maintenance timing chain set up yea right I like a timing belt engine way better especially if the chain is between the engine and transmission I work on European cars for a living I have changed my fare share of chains in VW and Audi cars MINIS AND BMW I remember when i had a Mercdes benz 190 2.3 L 16V Cosworth engine and the chain guide broke and then the chain cut one of the metal guide pins and then it fell into the oil sump and the metal part got suck in the oil pump because the metal screen mesh was torn off the engine ran out of oil pressure but the timing chain never jumped time it was great .

  • @mrmrmrcaf7801
    @mrmrmrcaf7801 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Because "long life oil"...change your oil every 10-12k km and you will be fine....I have the same engine on Q7 and it's very good, did my chain and tentioner at 280k currently the car has 335k .I'm on the waiting list for the Q8 and will get it this fall, I can't wait!I got the same 3l diesel 286 BHP engine.

  • @stevendegreef93
    @stevendegreef93 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Glad I sold such an Audi with a similar engine and troubles a long time ago! 😅

  • @maximus1720
    @maximus1720 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Those VAG approved timing chain alignment drill bits 😂

  • @paulsimpson2232
    @paulsimpson2232 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very disappointed with this model AUDI ! Put me off buying one of these ..my friends A4 2010 done 195,000 miles without any issue...Audi should be accountable if it has Audi service history...great work chap !!!

  • @Countrylovecocoa
    @Countrylovecocoa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How long did it take you to remove the engine and transmission? And how long did it take you to change the timing chain?

  • @camforcars3412
    @camforcars3412 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What an absolute awfully designed engine for one single chain drive at the back and a chain tensioner system that clearly is not fit for purpose Crap !

  • @garagepoland
    @garagepoland 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    👍

  • @IrishPikeHunter
    @IrishPikeHunter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I drive a 2006 b7 a4 with asb 3.0 tdi engine. Have owned it 7 years now and there was 80k on when I bought it. Now just about to hit 170k and I'm dreading this when it happens. I have done oil changes every 5-6k miles from 100k as I was told this will prolong the life of the tensioners.

  • @ofeliawotsits6080
    @ofeliawotsits6080 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The reliance on plastic tensioners is just crap. I think it’s deliberate as it means these engines won’t last, otherwise why not use steel tensioners? Considering the cost to do this work it’s hardly worth the money to buy the car. Knowing the price of Audi parts and the ridiculous costs charged for this work the car would be a write off.

  • @R2D2trashcan
    @R2D2trashcan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Never, ever own an Audi out of warranty period. Period.

  • @TheSonyjoseph
    @TheSonyjoseph 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    From my experience, why these newer engines die soon ,just because manufacturers adding too much power and at the same time restricting the free flow of exhaust due to numerous pollution reasons....also sensors everywhere than nuts and bolts.
    Older direct injection non turbo charged engines last longer than common rail...
    Just best example, older Mercedes diesel engines...

  • @nigelsears7191
    @nigelsears7191 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    poor design as cam chain does not run in a straight line but requires the chain slipper to keep position and tension so as it wares timing slips granted only slight but this is still crucial as its a diesel , either put decent chains etc in them or go back to belts at least they dont need quite so much effort to change what happened to the old days when a chain lasted 200,000 and a cam belt would do 10 years + 100,000 miles

  • @VinDieselS70
    @VinDieselS70 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's a shame Audi did this,when you know how good and reliable the VW/ Audi 2.5 L straight 5 cylinder Diesel engine was, as long as you replaced the belts every 80'000 miles, at least when that engine was used by Volvo. I had an S70 TDI and the engine never missed a beat.

    • @stevenjohnson4283
      @stevenjohnson4283 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The volvo 5 cylinder wasn't audi designed. It was a collaboration between Ford, Fiat and Volvo. Each brand having the exact same 5 cylinder variants.

  • @denozuzo5344
    @denozuzo5344 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Zákazníkom to mením pravidelne ale na mojej vlastnej A7 sa mi to tak strasne chce robit🤣🙏
    Inak super chaloši🤘

  • @stevetaylor9482
    @stevetaylor9482 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just to let you know that your commentary is too quiet in many places and is then not helped by being drowned out with the music track.

  • @Adioss121
    @Adioss121 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What about electronic Oil pressure regulator?

  • @juhaammalainen6284
    @juhaammalainen6284 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love watching your videos guys! Keep up the good work!

  • @RicMura
    @RicMura 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My A6 3.0TDi has 500.000 km… still running as a baby 😅… Still trying to find a good garage close to Eastmidlands to take care of it… Great Job!!!

  • @yourboyhas693
    @yourboyhas693 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How long this whole process took from taking the engine doing the timing and putting back in.but yeh great video

    • @VAGTechnic
      @VAGTechnic  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi,
      It’s possible to get it done in 1 week

  • @Alltakenbla
    @Alltakenbla 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Its a pitty the sound engineer got the audio mix wrong. BG music was way infront.

  • @vincecarlo
    @vincecarlo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Job
    Will be Avoiding VAG n BM Like A PLAGUE

  • @spiki_x6863
    @spiki_x6863 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Mine 3.0 tdi has 400.000km and 15 years. Chain still good, no rattling. I will tell you the secret: oil changes were at 15.000km. Oh, and if you remove dpf and disable egr, it lasts almost forever.

    • @pliedtka
      @pliedtka 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Larry Butler
      But it not as cool as the new toy, people like new toys. Sadly the days of bullet proof Benzes are also over.

  • @gerardoquirogagoode8152
    @gerardoquirogagoode8152 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm in México and have a 2015 Q5 3.0 TDI with 140,000 km. Scanner reports problems with bank 2. Still, engine runs smooth and strong. Would you recommend a Timing chain kit brand in particular ??

  • @2pink1stink
    @2pink1stink 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    After dropping the entire power train we found out it was a wheel bearing, that will be 4000 dollars please

  • @bibhabbag1
    @bibhabbag1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rattling!!?? I thought that was just a diesel engine doing its natural thing

  • @kevina.4036
    @kevina.4036 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Video would be so much better without the copyright free music. Just let us hear the sounds of the shop and the tools!

  • @godwor848
    @godwor848 ปีที่แล้ว

    After chain replacement and all gasket was replaced ( without HEAD GASKET) on A6 C7 3.0 dti 2011 , car going bad on fuel! Before thet (had a 1 st stage eco tuning) for same distance 50-60 ml give me 6-6.3 l/100 . After that going to 7.5 -8 l/100 km ! What the Garage told me they just cleaning a bit the nosels and put back the injectors ! 😢Any suggestions?

  • @bigjak7358
    @bigjak7358 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Theres a ton of expensive things what can go wrong on a turbo diesel engine . The exhaust dpf is the main 1. Big money fk that stick with petrol. Small engine petrol cars are easy to get the tools in. Most jobs are quick 5 mins . Replacing belts or chains is 2 hours at the most . Not 2 days haha

  • @ghingenieriatallerautomotriz
    @ghingenieriatallerautomotriz 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello is possible to send me the picture of camshaft pinion possition or web page where i check the assembly of camshaft.
    Tanks

  • @lamachhorne9043
    @lamachhorne9043 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was beginning to wonder if you guys do any diesels. We would get a lot of these 3.0TDIs at my old job. A very common fail on this engine is the oil cooler gasket under the EGR cooler. Not a fun job at all.

    • @orlandovlore4873
      @orlandovlore4873 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I did similar job in mine pain on a ass but definitely much better than a timing job

  • @moneymikeslickwill8749
    @moneymikeslickwill8749 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro i love my 15 Q7 TDI im in the middle of doing this job an cleaning the intake and egr from soot but at 199k miles our Audi has been trouble free

  • @charlesdefrancisco5056
    @charlesdefrancisco5056 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow..you are certainly very well versed into this very complex repair…you are very skilled..I have only one question..just how much does this repair cost

    • @VAGTechnic
      @VAGTechnic  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Just over 3k £

  • @YSvet27
    @YSvet27 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    wow! How much could a potential 3.0 TDI enthusiast expect to pay for such a service?

  • @manxman8008
    @manxman8008 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great technicians and videos, but I'd get frustrated that Audio keep making unreliable stuff that needs an engine-out to fix.
    Buy an expensive car and rebuild the engine every 5 years. Then wake up... no... no... it's not a nightmare.
    Audi love customers to buy a car then stump up for expensive spare parts more often than other models.

  • @colchronic
    @colchronic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Audi CEO talking to an engineer: I told you to make the timing chain guys break after warranty not before warranty!

    • @VAGTechnic
      @VAGTechnic  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah , probably true story

  • @litefoot900
    @litefoot900 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is called Built In Obsolescence, Audi and BMW among others are using basically a push bike chain that you can't easily replace. To drive four cams with this is negligence and disrespectful to their customers. The Lada 1.5 engine for example was a double chain driving a single cam. Think about what's going on here. Zee Germans are taking you for a yride.

  • @ytSuns26
    @ytSuns26 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My experience has been the more expensive , or special the car the crappier it actually is.

  • @baitish1
    @baitish1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had 3 tdi audis. The 2012 was a disaster. Timing started rattling at 120k km and the gearbox was shit too. Barely got rid of that shit. The 2009 3.0 tdi a6 i sold with 300k km and 0 problems with original everything. Fuck Audi. I have 2 Tesla model 3 now.

  • @simon-hl8eb
    @simon-hl8eb 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why does a timing chain that is fitted with too many links need a tensioner..oh yes because its got too many links .you could fit a chain that fits snug with a manual adjuster outside of the engine block that would probably only need adjusting every ...lets say 50000 miles but no lets all make..Loads of money..anybody remember harry enfield

  • @Icutrauma11
    @Icutrauma11 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is very disappointing. Audi had this issue with low grade guides in the B6 S4. The majority needing upgraded guides from the RS4. Thousands of dollars of Labor to replace hundreds of dollars of parts. Now a whole another generation has this Achilles heel.

  • @wazza33racer
    @wazza33racer 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    All V6 engines are horrid.....except the Buick 3.8 that never breaks down. Look at that thing.....the cams are on a single row, standard chain that drives both banks, and the chain is not even a morse chain for extra strength and life. Utter engineering failure. Thanks for the video.....its a real education on the junk that passes for modern design and engineering.

  • @jasonevans6720
    @jasonevans6720 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yet another disappointing VAG product for the purchase price and mileage this is disgraceful

  • @miketaylor6282
    @miketaylor6282 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did anyone else hear the cha-ching sound every time he zipped a bolt out?

  • @kamilianos
    @kamilianos ปีที่แล้ว

    my mate got this car/engine for free by a family member. He spent equivalent to it's market value on repairs within 6 months. Granted, the car is on 150k miles.

  • @jiyushugi1085
    @jiyushugi1085 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Endless Money Pit. Smelly, Noisy, Unbelievably complex. No wonder people are buying EVs.

  • @lauretiu
    @lauretiu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Come to USA. we need people like you that don't charge the price of a new car to do the type of job you do

    • @VAGTechnic
      @VAGTechnic  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching ! What’s the prices in US like for material ?

    • @lauretiu
      @lauretiu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@VAGTechnic I'm originally from Europe and the price for your work was the same in my country but here in the us for the service you it runs upwards of 6-7k(if you are lucky and find a decent service, because stealerships will charge you the price of the whole used car with 100k miles on it upwards of 9k). They wanted to charge me 5k only in labor to swap a blown engine with a used one that had 80k miles, that i got off ebay. so is said hell no, i paid 4k for the engine and changed it myself in the garage in 4 nights(about 5h-6h work each night) and i have never opened the hood of a car prior to that in my whole life, so an experienced technician that knows what he is doing would have probably done that in half the time considering he would have a lift, not like me jack stands and a cherrypicker, and would not have to pull off the whole front end of the car just to be able to take the engine out(not bragging about doing all of that myself, I'm trying to say that the prices they ask for working on European cars are outrageous)

    • @lauretiu
      @lauretiu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@VAGTechnic and the prices for parts are usually close to double. if i need parts it's cheaper for me to buy them from Latvia in Europe or Poland etc on ebay than buying even some used ones here

    • @prickowens9341
      @prickowens9341 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lauretiu thats because latvian an polish car parts are often stolen

  • @fivedotsdave9723
    @fivedotsdave9723 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That is the most horrible sound, which some people call music, it's far too loud and totally distracting.....

  • @miketaylor6282
    @miketaylor6282 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A TDI POWERED CAR LIFT!!!😮 I HAVE TO HAVE ONE!!!!!! 00:01

    • @VAGTechnic
      @VAGTechnic  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      😂 only one in the whole world , always plugged in to car what we working on . Electric is expensive you know

  • @leprechaunshelper
    @leprechaunshelper 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Modern cars in general nobody can seem to make a decent engine…even after being repaired the engine sounds terrible on this Audi …I certainly wouldn’t want to work on that respect anyone that does 👍

  • @rfox864
    @rfox864 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm dyeing to know how many hours and what was the cost?🤦‍♂💲💰⚡😫🤷‍♀

    • @VAGTechnic
      @VAGTechnic  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      30h labour / 3300£

    • @kingdomfor1
      @kingdomfor1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@VAGTechnic I would imagine that doesn't include parts ?

  • @ronaldrussell5481
    @ronaldrussell5481 ปีที่แล้ว

    WOW! Big $$$ to replace a piece of plastic. But as the saying goes "If you can afford it, you can afford to fix it." I don't happen to be in that position.

  • @gazzaeabc3805
    @gazzaeabc3805 ปีที่แล้ว

    Timing chain or injectors. Quite common on these... Also, so many weak plastic water and oil parts under the hood, cheap shit cracks and leaks abound.😳

  • @jtg2737
    @jtg2737 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a horrible engine design! You have to drop and separate the engine from the transmission just to get to the timing components?! WHAT the hell?!😡🤬

    • @modafoka24
      @modafoka24 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeah, lets put the chain on the back of the engine.
      A few times i almost bought an Audi, but the chain position always freaked me out.
      Got the OM642 now

  • @scottjames6960
    @scottjames6960 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely no need to drop the engine for this job. Did the chains myself with only dropping the gearbox. Audi A7 3.0tdi.
    Truth is these engines are shite.

  • @lv4977
    @lv4977 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    😎 Good job friend but to much music .

  • @daniaalekhan8764
    @daniaalekhan8764 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi I have a 2017 a7 272 bhp model and it’s making a noise from the left side of the engine constantly could you look at the video I’ve posted

  • @rosshannemann7772
    @rosshannemann7772 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Polo 1.4 fsi, did a similar job, camshaft A ,not sync with crankshaft, nice tidy job you did.

  • @Qp0int
    @Qp0int 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Germans WERE good engineers. Then they began over complicating things and now many of their cars are junk.

  • @2Str0k3
    @2Str0k3 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The audio is totally screwed. The totally pointless music breaks your ears and you cant hear the speech at all.

  • @costonzap
    @costonzap 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a 2013 a6 c7 allroad 225,000kms .change oil every 10,000kms.
    A perfect engine...early oil changes are a great thing!
    Perth Australia

    • @tommyodonovan3883
      @tommyodonovan3883 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I change my oil every 5000 kms, 2004 Chevy Avalanche.

  • @klyddmeisters
    @klyddmeisters 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The main problem isnt the chain guide or the tensioner. It is the low oilpressure. After repair you should reflash ECU to work on high oilpressure only. No problem and no rattle. And check the oilsquirters so the arent clogged

    • @VAGTechnic
      @VAGTechnic  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Oil pressure is not controlled electronically 🙂

  • @marciogomes5260
    @marciogomes5260 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello . I d like to now your opinion about box chip piggyback, and its bad for the engine. Thanks

  • @LesGorePL-1001
    @LesGorePL-1001 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Question
    How many miles or kilometers got car got before all this happened.
    For high price you pay this is called bl crap .

  • @skillz1855
    @skillz1855 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I see the problem. Too many chains and engine in the car backwards

  • @caerleon9176
    @caerleon9176 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    BMW engines are in the same boat, brackets disintergrate and then plug the engine and starve it of oil - then a rebuild in vehicle. Just noticed that reg, he lives on my road.

  • @erniehogan2404
    @erniehogan2404 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video...apart from the music which is TERRIBLE!

  • @GNX157
    @GNX157 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Video feedback: I would of appreciated if you did voiceover commentary current or after the fact of what you were doing instead of the music, of which also, the level of the music was too loud in relation to your voice parts to the extent I had to lower the volume drastically every time you went from talking to the music.

    • @VAGTechnic
      @VAGTechnic  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes thank you for your feedback, hopefully we did improve in our newest videos

  • @drfrenchy100
    @drfrenchy100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    It's sad to see that even with numerous years of experience, failures, and customer complaints, Audi, in their infinite wisdom, did not apply changes to their materials based on lessons learned. These issues are known, and we're seen as early as 2004. The 4.2 s4, for example, had severe problems with the timing guild, and it's was mainly to the use of this stupid plastic material. SMH

    • @schinken800
      @schinken800 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You cant use anything else than plastic guides! But i agree that they should be better quality. In Japanese engines the guides last forever!

    • @MT-cr1to
      @MT-cr1to 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its really not the guides in this case that were the issue. Its the tensioner not giving proper tension. Audi can never get chain tensioners right it seems. This is coming from an Audi tech.

  • @helmutswetglanz2590
    @helmutswetglanz2590 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pure garbage … I love my vintage two Mercedes’ , the new euro vehicles do not have the quality or longevity that made their reputation in the old days , sad .

  • @FirstLastOne
    @FirstLastOne 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You mean that's NOT how a diesel is supposed to sound like? That's whole reason why people avoid diesels, I though at least.

  • @ricowswave1324
    @ricowswave1324 ปีที่แล้ว

    The worst car I’ve ever owned transmission is made out of chocolate engine had issues spent nearly 5k on bills got rid of it in the end..

  • @hyper_active_snail
    @hyper_active_snail 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    such a shame these cars are manufactured so shit!!! nice looking cars but when it comes to repairs and maintenance, makes you question the sanity and intelligence of the idiot designing these cars.. smh