Are Poker Shows Rigged?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 มิ.ย. 2024
- Everyone loves high stakes poker on television. From the World Series of Poker, to Hustler Casino Live, and especially the live streams on Poker At The Lodge, there are tons of great shows to choose from. But are they legit? And how can we know for sure? Let's take a deep dive.
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I think the answer with Postle is rather clear… he was checking to see if he had the nuts
given the amount of checking...I think NO NUTS is a good bet.
Go nad or go home.
We needed this joke 6 years ago but dang that shit is clever
Ballsy!
he had but they were very small
Can we just appreciate the fact that a person with a criminal history who was working in the back room of HCL with access to hole cards, on the same night as the J4 hand, "stole" 10K off the stack of the person accused of cheating... yeah.
def was his payout for the info.
15
I would have taken more lol
Also happens to be 10% of the total.
It just seems to unprobable that it was a coinsidence..
By far the most suspicious part of the Hustler cheating bit is that Robbi gave it back. I would never in my entire life give back a legit win on no evidence
Yeah it makes no sense to give the money back. If you did nothing wrong, you would fight that. Weird situation
If I beat you with a retarded call .. I ain’t giving sh… , and that the hustler allowed it is despicable
Right, id be laughing it up at Garret and dangling the money in front of him like nah nah you’re never gonna get this. All facts aside, I’ve never seen someone give back someone’s chips they won in a poker game for six figures. If this was commonly done like some reverse slow roll then okay she got him but she paid him back instantly is odd.
She won’t have wanted to. She’d have felt pressured into doing so.
@@joshuamitchell5530that’s called guilt my guy 😂
Nobody is ever calling with J high there ever . She only beats that exact hand Garrett has & then its still a flip . She gave Garret the money back because she wanted it to go away as she had been caught along with the guy in the backroom & didn't want it to blow up . She called in totally the worst spot she could have & the only way she does that if she was cheating . She got let of light & is lucky to still be playing .
She would if you have ever seen her play. If she knew it was a flip, why would she call the all-in?
@@user-ly6pl3bk7jsimple. She didn’t have access to the exact cards, but just knew if she was good or not.
@user-ly6pl3bk7j it wasn't a flip tho. She was still a dog. The person relaying the message. Just relays she has the best hand. Probably gets a cut, sees she has the best hand. And says fuck it go for it
prove it or stfu
@@brandonf4196 Doesn't matter. She had pot odds. It was the correct call being completely results oriented. She cheated.
This is even more interesting in a way after reading and watching Negreanu and Ausmus during the 50K this week, because Ausmus was insistent that a lot of his hands that were shown he held were not accurate throughout the tournament so it might be funny to find cheating fails, where people thought they won but their cheating went awry by way of faulty RFD
In plo or stud, a player could keep his cards over one another, so the chips get hard to read
Seems like Doug is saying come play poker at the lodge, high stakes players don’t play at a hustler casino live, throwing some shade at Nick Vertucci
could be we can never know.........at hcl. all the $$$ tossed around....
He's slowly going to take HCL place I feel like. They keep slipping up and there's Doug always in the background
Or he's saying 30 minutes delay is the only way to know that nobody cheat.
Nick Vertucci deserves allllll the shade
@@seankiesling2054I was watching HCL last week while visiting my grandma and Nick was on. My grandma said "isn't that the sweet boy I paid $30,000 for that real estate course?
Bro went hard against HCL. Basically called them out as a bunch of back-room cheaters at the end.
Doug should’ve added that Garrett donated the Robbi money to charity and didn’t keep it.
In case anyone is thinking that a cheat could use a RFID card reader at the table to cheat by logging which unique strings of numbers, say, the aces are transmitting, the number sent to the reader is different every time.
Every time the card needs to be read, the RFID reader sends a newly generated number to the chip in the card, which then uses a secure algorithm to calculate and generate a different identification number to send back to the reader. That number is then plugged into another algorithm to identify the card for the viewers. The entire interchange is encrypted for good measure.
So even if someone gets an RFID card reader close enough to another player's hole cards, it's not going to read anything useful.
His opinion on the title is within the last minute of the video, so you can skip the other 13 min. Oddly enough 30 seconds in I skipped to the end of the video knowing his thoughts of the title would be at the end.
Thank you.
I remember during the original Poker Stars Big Game, there was some speculation as to whether the pros were playing with their own or real money. The production suggested it was legit. However, in one big hand between Phil Laak and Daniel Negreanu, Laak tanked with trip aces on the river before calling the large bet and winning. He immediately explained the tank by saying, “In a *real* cash game, that’s a fold” … and his table mates’ expression made it look as though Laak just revealed a secret that he shouldn’t have.
I'm not sure I would read that as, "we are playing with fake money." To me that sounds more like, "In a real cash game that isn't televised (so people can see me being nitty) and doesn't have poker pros splashing money with awful hands I would fold." Those games (and really any televised/streamed cash game tbh) used to play incredibly loose, Phil Galfond actually has a vid about being kicked off high stakes poker for playing too tight.
Oh c'mon..... Who names their kid Bort?
@@BortSamsung Agreed. It doesn't necessarily mean the game was a hoax/fake money. It could mean just since it was in a different context/format than usual cash games, his decision-making process was different. However, the immediate reaction of a couple table mates appeared a little suspicious. Will post a link if I can find it.
@@southbeachtalent My son is also named Bort.
@@Kanders190 we have another jumper off of T.G.I McScratchy's
When is Mike Matusow heater gonna start?
When someone else loans him a million dollars.
You didnt watch that Hustler session where he flopped like 4 sets in 2 hours and got max value? 😂
@@Brazz27 No I didn't, but I'm glad he finally found a way to win.
It'll be after Jean Robert's heater...
The intro kept me glued to the screen. Polk, you are a natural show host. Like 👍
Dude, Polk is arguing THE BEST poker narrator, announcer we have in the pro world. Few are as sharp. I love his breakdown of the game. The faces, the issues.
Well done, Doug! Long time fan!
Postle got away with it???? I've lost all faith in the legal system
wtf are you talking about. How on earth are you gonna convince a judge that he was cheating?
Bro lol that was like 2 years ago or more he was found innocent. Not exactly breaking news
Yeah when the shitstorm on Postle was happening Doug even said hos difficult it would be to convince the judge. "Your Honor, this is not how you play 54o", good luck with that
@@behhe1235 his unrealistic win rate with video of him folding AK with a dry Ace flop but calling a post flop 3 bet with 9-6o with a gutter and winning is the only evidence they woukd have and if the judge has absolutely no idea how poker works it's gonna be impossible for a judge to know what he's looking at lol
@@seankiesling2054 The only solution is to give it to judge who knows and plays poker
Hey Doug, If I could convince Postle to come to the Lodge, would you let me play too? 🤝
He answered it in the video
‘My personal opinion? I have eyes, and a brain that works.’ Thank you for not being so diplomatic about it. Insane that so many pros say they believe she wasn’t cheating.
Just a question. So if all the cards can be identified then is it safe to say that the technology exists to be able to put those cards In whatever order they see fit coming out of the shuffling machine. I think the dealers should earn their money and offer a cut every time
So when does the lodge go online ? . Id love to see a site which electronically shuffle the cards and then export the deck to a third party just prior to them being dealt but with a time delay lock and then the BB gets to cut the deck at any number they choose . Ie so there's no option to cheat
Are u guys hiring in San Antonio?
Mr Doug, I play in a home game every few weeks and when people make big bets on the river I think "I know they haven't bluffed the previous 8000 times, but this'll be the time that they are!!" and yet, they are not. Is this rigged?!?!
Yes it’s rigged keep trying
They are only bluffing when you don't call. Would you like to join my home game? I will pay for your share of the snacks! 😂😂😂🎉
ALWAYS snap off river check raises
Most of the players in my home game haven't learned how to bluff yet and there's not much point in bluffing them either since they always bet based on what's in their own hand anyway!
Ya these are the people who play cards...not poker. 😅
Depending on how often the decks are swapped, the RFID codes could be mapped. It wouldn't be hard to scan your hold cards. Eventually, you could scan the cards for most of the deck. If you had a strong enough scanner, you could probably scan the players to the direct left and right. You wouldn't have a lot of data, but even knowing the value of 1 hold card could mean the difference of a win/loss.
I still think Robbi was cheating in that J4 hand. I can't think of any other reason she'd call there
for those who are unsure when he says i have eyes and a brain that works, he also agrees robbi cheated like every other rationally thinking poker player. hmmm just so happens the guy she was cheating with took/stole his cut(10%) from her stack!!!1 because he was upset she gave the money back to garret if thats not enough evidence i mean calling 100k with j hi lol no! not in this spot
The biggest skill in poker is game selection. It basically and simplistically means that you choose games where you play against whales/noobs and you avoid playing with those who have some skill and try to never play with those who have better skill. Well, if you calculate this, it means that the whole scheme is ponzi. It relies on attracting noobs who will lose their money to you. But eventually you will run out of noobs
great observation
I think it was more fun not knowing what the cards are.
Would you say Hustler covered up the Garrett hand investigation?? It would make sense especially at how well their streams were and are doing.. potentially fooooks their business if it come out he was cheated☺️ I have eyes and a brain 🧠 too Doug☺️☺️
100% Did you know that she claimed she didn’t know the HCL employee that “stole” 10K from her stack? But somehow they followed each other on Twitter. Did you also know that same employee moved (can’t remember if it was a chair or a cabinet) to block the cameras view of him that day? (This wasn’t listed in HCL’s “investigation report” btw). Same report that also stated there was no evidence there was collusion between Robbi and Rip… Even though Robbie literally admitted that her and Rip were intentionally soft playing each other.
If a game is confident in their security they will allow players to ask, "what is your RFID security? What is your stream delay? Do you do background checks on dealers and production staff." They will give you a detailed and comprehensive answer (like Doug does here).
If anyone ever says "we can't disclose any information for security reasons"...run.
Finally, Thank you for making this. Its a conversation I have constantly about my RFID Games
Hey, Doug! At 2:22 you show a photo of "Henry Orenstein" inventor of both the Hold card cam, and the Transformer toy line. Coincidentally, the photo you show is not Orenstein, but my old boss, Ron Van Leeuen, owner of Toronto's Silver Snail Comic Book Store showing off his Transformers in June, 1985. This photo was taken for a Toronto Star shoot, but subsequently used in several obit articles about Orenstein. Ron, however, is alive and well and living on the profits he made selling Transformers.
My first time watching poker, i remember them playing on a glass table, with cameras underneath it for the cards.
I dont play internet poker anymore. Filled with cheaters.
Online poker is rigged af
OL Poker is suspect as all hell. There have been many studies on the percentages of X happening, and they happen WAY more frequently in OL poker. Something like 4times as much. The thing is, I dont think it's rigged to any one person. It is rigged as such to amplify action.
You have any proof of that or are you just talking out of your a$$ ?
how can a player scan the cards in an automatic shuffler? is it possible to set the deck when it goes through the machine?
Yes there has been rigged decks where it transfers which player has the winning hand.
I thought that the dealer cut the cards after they came out of the shuffler so to rig the game you would also need to get a perfect cut.
@@higheloshow can you elaborate? Why would a card club or casino do this?
@@jackbauer789 home games. You can youtube poker phone scam reader.
During the million dollar game there was table talk about how they would all get the money back after, and Tom Dawn exclaimed “guys Ryan doesn’t want us to talk about that on the show”
Thats because tom dwan was annoyed at Ryan and is diablical
I felt the last million dollar buy in game was rigged with fake money after people stopped showing up to play (after day 1 I think). It was really sketch when they put that guy out there with a mask and hat on and said he was some foreigner. He folded a straight when he would have won. It was super shady. I don’t watch HCL anymore. The world is a stage and I don’t trust anyone in CA putting on a show for YT.
@@evanprothro7810yahoo Are you talking about the guy in blue face paint called 'Enigma'?
man watching mike postle was so entertainment! I watched so many videos on that topic and he was a god. man that robbi was wild it was just one hand though. Mike had thousands
nice vod ty doug keep up the good work
I'm still on Robbi's side. If she knew what Garrett had then she , or whoever she was in cahoots with knew the odds weren't in their favor 53% to 47% odds so calling would be a bad risk. Also, she said it herself, I'm playing you Garrett, not the cards. She knew he was bluffing a lot, had a reputation for bluffing, and had a feeling she had top card with the J. Giving back the money doesn't spell cheating to me either, it spells a young woman in a largely men's game in a very new to her casino on a very popular steam. She didn't want the notoriety, but even after returning the money, Garret wouldn't let it go, and caused them both a lot of grief! We'll never know the 100% truth on this one, but she did take a polygraph, and passed so whatever that's worth plays into my opinion she wasn't cheating!👍😎✌🗽
I think you are right. You can't rely on players doing the logical, by the percentages move every time and if they don't they are cheaters. People gamble, get a feeling, or are playing the player. The fact she gave back the money is the same sort of thing - It wasn't logical (or something I would ever do), but that doesn't necessarily mean she cheated. If she had lost the hand no one would even noticed. If it was Dnegs instead of Robbie we would all think it was just another great read by the maser.
@@goodcopbadcop9872 Great read, Dnegs is a great analogy, and your correct, everyone would have put it down to his mystical skill!😁👍
Robbi was a committed recreational player who had studied Garrett and his habitual bluffing. She practiced for months or years to take him down. This was her opportunity and she made the most of it. Garrett publicly accused her of cheating, maligned her play, her and her husband and under pressure, she refunded the money on the condition that he return to play more in the same game that night. She was 100% confident she could win the same money back from him AGAIN and MORE. Unfortunately, he changed his mind, chickened out and absconded with the money she had won from him. In my opinion, she and her husband have a slam dunk case against him for character assassination as proven by thousands of online comments posted against her by people taking Garrett's word for it.
Suppose anything with a computer can be compromised
poker, or even elections.
@@stevet8121why does every conversation in America have to have this subject interjected ? It's like 10% of this country whole identity has become who resides in the Whitehouse even though whoever is actually there couldn't care less about everyday Americans and show examples every day of the disdain they have for John Q Public . Let it go already and your life will get better immediately
@@stevet8121especially elections
@@dwayneb72 Did you know? The "Q" in John Q. Public stands for "quisquam."
The first recorded use of that name is from the late 1700s, when the new United States of America was discussing whether English or German would be the country's official language. (btw, do you know what the official language of USA is?)
Many Lutherans of German heritage also spoke Latin and used the term "quisquam" to mean "anyone in general."
I didn’t know we were getting old news Doug today.
A more interesting question is "Is online poker rigged?".
When you look at the facts that not one poker site has all its code audited by an outside source apart from poker stars random number generator.
Banks had to do this after some programmer started shaving interest which forced by law external audits of the banks software code.
But why would poker sites manipulate the results?
To encourage bad gamblers to win more , to play more to get more rake!
Are the poker sites owners that greedy to risk that?
If they had nothing to hide they would have an external audit but not one does it even to get a completive edge in marketing against other online poke sites.
It makes you think!
You also notice nobody in the poker industry talks about this issue. Yes talking at you Doug!
I'm curious about the RFID being secure. If the RFID chips in each card are assigned randomized IDs before the game, and if someone saw those RFIDs they would only see the ID and not the card suit and value, couldn't they just play for an hour or so, and every time they got their hole cards match it up to the two RFID IDs. At first you couldn't be sure which of your two cards match up to which of the two RFID IDs, but after a while you would be able to eliminate and match up the IDs with the card to where you know what every RFID ID represents?
Imagine for one Mike Postle who don't care about his reputation or being caught, how many other cheaters are doing the same thing but in a smart calculated way..
For some reason I absolutely love the old under the glass hole cam
Do we really believe Annie Duke won the 2004 tournament of champions?
you had me at impostleable
He keeps using that word. I do not think it means what he thinks it means.😏
i mean gotta admit, being able to use some kind of gto chart or solver mid live sesh for your specific situations peeking down out of the corner of ur eye is a skill in itself lol
I'm pretty sure "Rounders" was pre-scripted!!!
They need to check players eyes for special contact lenses that can see marked cards. PERIOD.
FYI: Potripper was on Absolute Poker, not Ultimate Bet. And granted, they shared a parent company at the time and eventually merged under the Cereus Network, but they weren't the same. It's sort of like saying "Patrik Antonius was a huge winner as FinddaGrind on PokerStars in 2013" just because Stars owned Tilt by then.
Cool story bro, what's next?
The thing that I think people are missing with these RFID readers is that if you have one built into a cell phone or some other device, or one that’s easily held in the palm of your hand, you can scan the RFID chip to get that string of characters. If you send one of these strings to somebody else via text message or some other method, and then let them know what that card was, that player could easily keep a database of what string of characters is for which card. Now, if you use the same portable RFID reader and got caught enough to your opponents chips, for instance, standing over them, staring at their cards or their chips and pretending to get a chip count, cough cough, you could have a way to read those RFID readers and get a response back from your collaborator in in real time what cards they have.
It would be difficult and time-consuming, but most streams last for several hours so the chances that you’re going to see a majority of these cards is not out of the question.
You would have to have some way of getting close enough to that person, so when you’re playing heads up against somebody next to you, it’s quite feasible to cheat in this method
They could easily swap decks with different card values, destroying this method. But I guess you only really need to identify a few cards to get an edge.
Lodge Vs HCL beef has Started 😂
4:07 How is it "surprising" that they are not easy to read? It makes perfect sense, surprising would be if they were actually easy to read.
the HCL live chat whenever Peter won a hand during the million dollar game was priceless
INVESTIGATION
THE FIX IS IN
HIT AND RUN
Postle was just the best LIVE body language reader of all time! But he only wanted to prove his talents on a live stream... other than that he was just slightly above average.
I think this is a bit of rewriting of history by Doug, Robbie and that guy were never found to have any connection whatsoever and by the end I'd say most ppl were of the thought that she didn't cheat or at least that there was no evidence, I also remember lots of ppl calling Doug out for being so dug in on saying she cheated, because it seems pretty clear to me that she's just kinda dumb with a little to much money, ain't no way she was pulling off something like this and after all this time we still have nothing
But you could use a reader to read the code on the cards dealt to you then you have to code to the card
Nothing beats Mike Postles " Nut Cam " view. " May cause neck strain "
the cam under the tale was dope imo
Anytime the hold cards can be view in real time, there is room for cheating, there is no secure way to prevent cheating.
Alan Keating wasn’t sitting with his money the other day , intentionally lost it .
Great video Polk, althougg he didnt really touch on if the money is real etc. I always see coments about o there not playing with there actual money its someone elses etc...
If Robbi had an inside edge tell me why she would take this moment to use the information on the turn when she had a huge chance of losing the hand?
One thing I always think that could be used as cheating is these stupid card protectors players use they could easily have like a UV coating on the bottom marking certain cards
hold up, isn't it better to not know the hole cards? So much of todays game is people saying they how they would have played it with the perfect information. But what makes poker much more interesting is not knowing what the cards are. I'd rather we didn't know the players hole cards until after the hand.
another thing is really, how it comes that she now plays like an absolute standard fish in all the games after this stream?? If you are able to pull moves like that on the best in the game (clicking back on turn with A high etc.)..you should crush most of the games.
This feels like convert sponsorship video for The Lodge. He has had plenty of other videos that have been stitched together for this.
You didn't address whether the chip value is being inflated for effect. I strongly suspect that many of these so-called million dollar hands just appear to be big hands, but the players only post a fraction of that money. It's juiced up to get a wider audience that gets googly eyes at big pots.
I want to know how much players are given to be in the high roller televised games. They are not all playing with their own money
Doug what’s your opinion on the Robbi poker hand & money thing afterwards ?
There are literally hours of content discussing this. Go look
l love ur honesty ... good luck
Noone brought up that Jack Rag is also the hand that Potripper (UB scandal) got caught with also
First time I thought this was 2006 WSOP with Gold the card run he caught while also being teamed up with Chan who’s obviously in the club just seemed to suspect
The self-plugs are the best parts of these videos
Robi misread her hand. Garrett’s a punk for asking for the money back.
RFID can be easily read by flipper zeros lol. I’m sure the numbers and letters are a lot less random than you think.
Whether there is cheating during those shows or not doesn’t matter.
Those are paid actors pretending to gamble with zero actual value chips. No real money.
This show, like the rest of them, are basically commercial advertisements to get players who don’t know any better to come bet with real money at their casinos.
As someone who has walked away from a $1-2 game up a couple thousand, yeah, sometimes you just sun run. Nothing is rigged at a casino card room
It depends what you mean by rigged. Phil Hellmuth does not play by the same rules as others. Players have had penalties and been kicked from tournaments for much less than what Phil does on a regular basis. It is disgusting these double standards exist and are far from subtle.
Section IV. 30. Harrah’s may in its sole and absolute discretion impose penalties of any kind or nature upon any person who, in Harrah’s view engages in inappropriate conduct during tournament play.
Section IV. 31. Harrah’s also reserves the right to exclude any individual(s) acting in a disruptive or inappropriate manner.
Section IV. 35. Any player who directs any profane and/or abusive language at another player, dealer or tournament staff member or who makes any profane and/or abusive comments about another player, dealer or tournament staff member will be penalized in accordance with
Rules No. 31 and/or 51. In particular, the use of the so-called "f-bomb" and "c-bomb" as well as derivatives of those and similarly offensive terms, will subject the offending player to penalties if they are directed at or refer to another player, dealer, staff member, patron or official of Harrah's or the WSOP. In Harrah’s sole and absolute discretion, it may impose at any time a zero-tolerance policy for profane language whether directed at another person or not.
These rules do not Apply to Phil Hellmuth and other famous players that get a pass no matter what they do.
There are other provisions in the rulebook to disqualify or penalize players except Phil Hellmuth.
If you think this is not rigged, then I suggest you get a dictionary and read what rig(ged) means... NOT the shipping term.
I am not saying Phil is a bad person or good person - I've never met him. I don't give a faeces about famous people. All I want is a fair game for every player with the rules applied equally to everyone. Swear or don't swear - I don't care. Just have the same rules for everyone.
It is obvious and clear to anyone with ears, eyes and a brain that much of poker is rigged in some way or another.
Maybe not your club, I don't know. It wouldn't matter to me either way as I would lose because I am crap at poker. It is still fun for me to play in a fair game.
Do ‘most’ of the community really think Robbi cheated? Seems a bit weird to cheat for literally just 1 hand, then return the money you won.
Seems a bit weird to think that she cheated for only one hand, and that she would give the money back if she didn’t cheat
@@anatolytsinker5317 It makes it look more suspicious, if she was cheating why would she want to look more suspicious. Get a grip you have zero actual proof.
@@anatolytsinker5317 but no one seems to think any other hands are suspicious.
Did you know that she claimed she didn’t know the HCL employee that “stole” 10K from her stack? But somehow they followed each other on Twitter. Did you also know that same employee moved (can’t remember if it was a chair or a cabinet) to block the cameras view of him that day? (This wasn’t listed in HCL’s “investigation report” btw). Same report that also stated there was no evidence there was collusion between Robbi and Rip… Even though Robbie literally admitted that her and Rip were intentionally soft playing each other.
@@KevinDurantisnotwhy are you copy lasting this response all the way down the comment section ?
Don't the cards only have a tag, not a chip? Essentially working as a barcode. The tag doesn't emit messages, it just bounces back
It's has the same tech as your credit card storing the information about that card in a heavily coded security form .. each spot at the table has an area in front of the spot with an RFID reader same reader as your phone or a card machine or tap to pay has we high sends that decide code to a central computer and that information is overlayed over the broadcast and wham you have a poker stream .. most "good secure" streams will postpone that and the play in the room is locked down and the broadcast room is on a delay so the broadcasters are commenting on the information from 30 minutes to an hour earlier . As it's shown to the audience they comment on it . Thilus preventing cheating .. production doesn't need to see the cards to do the video in advance they can get shots of the players in hands and what they sre doing without rhe need of actually seeing the cards innreal time
@@dwayneb72 heavily coded is a stretch. Basic encryption that the production has the hash for anyway
If you had a reader on the table you could mark them as you see them
Doug don’t be mad that they don’t allow pros in the MDG24 it was a very consistent rule that they didn’t stray from at all!!
All I know is that looking at the Postle graph, who ever was the poor sucker in the bottom left, I hope they quit poker forever.
Robbie has played on Poker at the Lodge.
Thanks Doug for this content, but you still didn’t answer the question.. is this real money these high stakes players are playing with?))
I wish the Robbie Postle events were reversed due to recency bias, Postle story so much bigger
i know what u are thinking! thats impostleble, you are right
I AM DYING. the way u said that was great
How in the WORLD was Postle acquitted?
"We investigated ourselves and found ourselves to have done nothing wrong"
@@IAmPez Mike Postle was effectively acquitted of the cheating allegations due to a combination of legal and procedural reasons. The civil lawsuit filed against him, Stones Gambling Hall, and its poker and livestream manager Justin Kuraitis, was dismissed by Federal Judge William B. Shubb in June 2020. The dismissal was based on a California law that prevents the recovery of gambling losses through civil suits. This law, rooted in public policy, disallows the judicial resolution of disputes arising from gambling activities [❞] [❞].The judge's decision cited the 1999 Kelly v. First Astri Corp case, reinforcing that gambling losses cannot be recovered in court under California law. Consequently, the case against Postle was dismissed with prejudice, meaning it could not be refiled. This decision effectively protected Postle from civil liability related to the cheating allegations [❞].
An answer I never ask for but now I need to know.
I agree be very aware of the game situation I played in road games in my area for many years (no casino within a 2-5 hour drive) and games like that are high risk to me so you have to watch out for yourself and be aware of the players and the equipment used (cards, table, lighting etc.) it is just too easy to get scammed or worse
This was an interesting video. I learned things that I didn't know.
And didn't tons of people instinctively lash out and say terrible things about Veronica Brill when she voiced her concerns about Postle? I hope they all apologized profusely to her once the statistics ended up entirely supporting her allegations, but I doubt they did.
But what if they have the second half of the NOC list?!
Where is Adelstein? Why is he no longer in any streams? Why is he not invited to play in these streamed games any more? Why dont we see him?
If I ever play on a Lodge stream, my chosen name will be...
*SKULL POSTLE*
The idea that there is a single human being on earth who thinks Robbi didn't cheat is astonishing to me. Like, we all have working brains right? What else are you using oxygen for if not...?
Lol. Garret got to flip 50:50 2 times for 130k… for free. If anybody cheated anybody, it was Garrett.
Literally this. If anything she cheated him out of 30k cause she should have folded to the turn 3b?? But she still had to win the flip. Crazy to take back 130
@@connorwhite2964 exactly. They both got it in good, had nothing to complain about. If there wasn’t a river to come, I can see people complaining.
It was all clickbait for all the vloggers. Anybody who thinks robbi had a huge sophisticated cheating scam is either lying for clicks, or is a moron.
@@santaclause3487 How in tf do you call off 109k on that turn with J4??????????????????????????? She cheated. G-man put her all in and she could have saved 109k and folded with J high, but she chose to call? Why, or better yet how could you call there? lol
@@omgDavidGlasper Yeah I get it how insane the call is. But even if she somehow cheated this hand she stole 30 in EV not 130. Unless we think she knows the two board allin on turn runout but no one suspecting this.
The Botez sessions were rigged to make her win… she instantly got sponsored by GG and started advertising the game in the chess community in hopes of bringing new players to the platform… It’s an obvious move!!