@@joshx022 I donated because two years ago by dad had a three month stay in a hospital / transition ward before he passed away from dysphagia. By the grace of god we are in Canada where we have great health care and my dad got the best coverage anyone could ask for. Everything was covered by our OHIP (public medical plan) but i cant even imagine to guess what we would have had to pay in the states. Not eating my lunch out one day and donating $10 in honour of my dads memory (his birthday is Nov 19 and he would have been 87) is the least I could do . 🙏❤🙏
What makes Jim that much more commendable for speaking out on this is at no point did he call out the fact that he donated $5K to Dutch’s cause (which went unreported by Meltzer). He just wants to see his good friends get healthy.
It's not him. Someone else makes something up, and Meltzer just reports it as fact, with no checking. Some guy joked that next year's Backlash is going to be at the Tokyo Dome. And Meltzer reported it as a serious fact.
"Many are saying" is a classic use of what are termed "weasel words". en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weasel_word Dave has been doing it with his "reporting" for years now.
@@dngn4774 Every good podcast has a good co-host. Even Brian reels Jim in sometimes to get him back on topic. It's something Conrad never does which is why his stuff generally sucks.
@@thesupervisor3270honestly who is reading or listening him that will boycott him? It’s the AEW faithful. I can’t read his words or listen to him talk without feeling like I’m having a stroke. It’s constant hemming and hawing over any criticism of AEW like blatant safety issues and bad programming broken up with 50 umm’s and you know’s.
I think Brian has said it best in the past that Dave thought he was going to anoint the next big thing and come out smelling like a rose. He's got to stick with that at this point because his fortunes are so firmly hitched to them.
"And then Davey, as fear went through your body, tears went down your cheek, and piss rolled down your leg! Your house started to shake again, the clouds parted, the heavens opened, and what seemed like millions - of voices all said to you in unison, Jabroni!"
@@Hyde_HillConrad. Damn. That dude. Why? He's so overweight he can't fit onto the camera. I don't mind that, but the hustling for his loan business or whatever it is? It's constant. And he's done podcasts with everyone from Rick Flair to Austn (I think he's actually Rick Flair's son-in-law, explains a lot). They even chose him to host those expanded Dark Side episodes. At least he couldn't mention his "save with Conrad" scam there.
Philosophically, AEW is the embodiment of everything Meltzer has been advocating for his entire career. His bias against big men, his Japanese and Mexican fetish, his insistence that if a wrestler was over in one market, they're entitled to be pushed everywhere. Meltzer's influence is all over AEW, of course he's a habitual wagon circler. That said, Tony Khan did a genuinely good deed and Meltzer managed to turn it into a negative. Jake Hagar made Tony Khan look better than Meltzer did.
Don't thats a false negative. If that was the case all of ROH's matches would have been 7 stars. For some reason either he has a financial stake in the company or really really really wants it to succeed. Dave Meltzer from 10 15 years ago would have shit on aew. Again he shit on a lot of ROH stuff back in the day and that's pretty much aew with better booking.
@@nikoladzhurov1800 I do remember Meltzer back in the day whining about CM Punk being held down in WWE when he’d only been on TV for a month and was still undefeated. In his and other dirt sheet writer’s minds, Punk should have been brought in like he was Flair in 91. Make no mistake, Meltzer never had principles. He knows that his readership wants to feel like they have inside info that the rest of us don’t. It’s in his interest to convince fans that what’s happening on the indies is the ‘real deal’, that’s how he gets subscribers. Case in point, anyone who was okay with Jungle Boy, the shooshing librarians, the pizza guy, Joey Ryan, the Broken Matt Hardy gimmick or anything related to Orange Cassidy has no right to complain about Doink, the Red Rooster, Undertaker’s superpowers, Duke the Dumpster or Bra and Panties matches. But they do and Meltzer is just as hypocritical. If it’s happening on the indies, it’s by definition good. That’s Meltzer’s philosophy.
Dutch said on his podcast with James that Tony Kahn is a great person and has no problem with him on that. It's only his booking that he doesn't like. Dutch was very complimentary of Tony and his charitable nature
He maybe a good guy who does bad booking. But that doesn't excuse the fact that he compared WWE to Harvey Weinstein. That was disrespectful towards Harvey's victims
How can I put this in the nicest way possible? Meltzer is an insufferable prick. the fact that Dave wrote that hit piece on Dutch while he nearly died as Dutch said on his podcast because he had criticisms about Tony Khan and Khan's business shows his true character. Tony was even nice enough, out of the goodness of his heart, to contribute to the GoFundMe as Meltzer reported himself, and you still can't be civil enough to say "get well soon" really says a lot all about Meltzer as a person and a "journalist" because Dutch critiqued Tony's multimillion Indy promotion.
As noted in the video, his numbers were outdated, Jim and his wife donated a day after TK, might be that they, at the time Meltzer wrote that article, hadn't been on that list. Still bad reporting, those numbers and donors should have been updated prior to the release of the newsletter.
I love how jim said "well, never the less.." when it was brought up that there was another name conveniently left off that list. Nice one Jimmy, that's class. Everybody knows jim donated $5000 to the fund but doesn't make a big thing of it. Thankyou jim!
Tony Kahn really needs to make a public statement and denounce Dave at this point. But knowing Tony, he's going to just let Dave continue spiraling and sperging out.
Dutch started getting genuinely angry in his recent podcast episode about it, especially as Dickhead Dave brought his wife into it. You rarely hear Dutch swear in that manner, it was obvious Meltzer has crossed the line with it.
@@catherinepye2708 Dave Meltzer has never, nor will ever, behave as a professional journalist. He's just a gossip, and as his mental capacities decline, it's being fully exposed. That's still not an excuse for him being scum by mentioning her health when, as stated, her business ain't no one but her's (and Dutch's by proxy).
If Dutch was younger, he would’ve ripped uncle Dave’s head off and shit down his bastard neck. Ironic thing is that he’s never had a bad conversation with Tony from the first time he met him. I mean shit the bed Dave there’s a difference between talking about Tony Kahn aBooker/matchmaker and just as a human being doing something for somebody and just wants to help someone out because he has the means to do so
Meltzer is deeply sick in the mind with how many hand grenades he has jumped on and bullets he has jumped infront of to try protect Tony Khan, AEW and the wrestlers he champions
I'm a diehard fan of many things, games, movies, whatever, but I would never defend those things from valid criticism or opinions, or would even consider to endanger my friendships. this is not normal behavior.
Yeah, it's getting to the point where I think Dave should seek professional help (I say this as none judgmental as possible, as I too struggle with mental health and I'm on meds and regularly sees a therapist) this is not normal behavior.
The fact that Jim and Stacey matched Tony Khan's donation and Meltzer intentionally ignored that in his article is frankly disgusting. Dave has gone from delusional to reprehensible.
That was despicable from Dave to leave Cornette out just because he doesn't agree with him & what makes it worse is Cornette is correct & Dave is always incorrect on wrestling. He's a very strange man.
This is twice in the span of a few months where Meltzer has used the serious health issues of a wrestling legend to his benefit and it's sick well beyond wrestling just as a human being
Brian got it right, Dave is _emotionally_ invested in AEW. People say he’s on the payroll, but Dave is in deeper than money can buy… he _needs_ AEW to sound good.
EgoMania running wild is the fastest path to self-destruction. When Meltzer finally loses everything, it’s going to be satisfying with only himself to blame.
I’m a retired 911 medic. Sepsis is 1 of the most dangerous medical emergencies we encounter. It’s such a fine line of catching it before it’s too late. And once you have passed point of no return there basically no return. We were trained on recognizing early signs of being septic than on any other thing we responded to. I actually had it from a skent knee and a knee sprain that happened at the same time playing football in 1970 as a child and Drs told my mom I had the flu. Thus went on for a week. My mom being persistent took me back to the Dr 1 more time and they realized what I had then. I spent the next 45 days in the hospital. The Dr told my mom if she had waited 1 more day I would have died.
As someone who genuinely disagreed with Dave and can truly honestly say after all these years Dave had earned my disliking towards him. Dutch is the most inoffensive personality in wrestling and it was a good thing that Tony did. Instead of just reporting on how it was amazing and kind and generous of what Tony did (don’t even have to mention Jim) he taints it by weaponizing Tony’s donation. I’m beginning to believe it isn’t Tony rather people he generously allows in his circle and gives his money to
There is a universe where Dave Meltzer retired as the most celebrated historian in the history of professional wrestling. We do not currently live in that universe. AEW broke his brain. I can’t think of anybody who has tanked their legacy over the last 5 years to the degree that Meltzer has, besides maybe Chris Jericho.
@@DripsawKillawouldn't that assume he had a brain in the first place? I mean he could of had tge shibata operation his stance is hilarious that's our Dave.. 😂😂😂😂
What Dave doesn’t understand is that if you wildly overpay for talent that doesn’t draw you much money in return, what happens is that you price out any competition (TNA, MLW, indies), costing jobs in the long term, and ensure that when AEW eventually fails, no one will want to start another national promotion.
Notice Jim squashed Brian trying to bring up that he donated $5k to Dutch’s gofundme. Quickly shutting it down to avoid bringing attention to it because he’s a good man who just wants his friend healthy again.
I hope this shameful display by Meltzer is the nail in his coffin, and drives people away from his out of touch newsletters and his TH-cam channel. KARMA wrote down his name and number and will be keeping tabs on him from here out.
I imagine the lead-up to that slap going like that segment where he fires Cornette lmao. "Dave, you don't drink, do drugs or anything like that, do ya?"
Next AEW show, the crowd should do the dual chants of, "Fuck you, Meltzer!" and "Get well, Dutch!" To help, the cadence would be in the style of fuck you Cena, Cena sucks which we all know and love.
No one has done more to damage the mystique of wrestling than Dave Meltzer. His fanzine killed Kayfabe more than the Madison Square Garden incident and he spoils every single surprise or angle. He should have been black balled years ago. Wanker
He doesn't ruin the surprise for anyone who doesn't pay him for his newsletter or click on one of his stories. The people who read him over the years wanted to learn more and wanted things exposed.
@Rjensen2 every other two bit website also quotes or takes his word as law. Wrestling is much better when you don't know what is happening behind the curtain.
@@averylargecrow It comes down ENTIRELY to choice. Why are you so pissy about choices others make in how they consume entertainment? Side bar...it's hilarious how you think Meltzer damaged the mystique of wrestling. It has been routinely exposed as a work since the late 1800s, at least.
I’ve disagreed with Dave’s takes for a long time but this is the first time he’s gotten this low, that I can remember. It’s one thing to have bad takes defending AEW, but to use the health of Dutch as a segway into these takes is just low and gross.
Just checked the Gofundme, Unless Dave donated anonymously, he didn’t donate to Dutch. So who is to question when he hasn’t done it himself. Considering without wrestlers Dave wouldn’t have a bad newsletter to spew.
Just wondering, if Dirty Dutch slaps him in Florida will we hear it in Kentucky? I'm hoping for a sonic boom that cracks windows and sets off car alarms. LOL
Tony Khan made one of the biggest donations to Dutch's Go Fund Me, so clearly he's willing to put disagreements over wrestling aside, but Dave can't. Why is Dave sticking up for AEW to the point that he's even going against Tony's wishes? Truly crazy behaviour.
Dave has exposed himself as a tribal AEW fan. Why he had to take shots at someone for criticising someone on a professional level and not liking what he sees with AEW is beyond me. He isn't criticising Tony as a person and even Jim has said he is a nice guy from when he met him but the two things aren't the same and you can be critical of someone on a professional level and still like them as a person. Dutch is under no obligation from this point going forward to say noce things about AEW just because Tony was kind enough to donate and Tony even knows that. It shows how petty and vindictive Dave is for him to do that just because someone doesn't like AEW as much as he does.
Meltzer started off talking about Dutch & ended up talking about AEW. Corny started off talking about Meltzer & ended up talking about AEW. WHERE'S THE HEAT?!?!
It's not really possible to talk about anything related to Dave Meltzer over the past 5 years without mentioning AEW. They are attached at the hip. AEW is literally Dave Meltzer's entire personality now, to the point where he takes criticism of AEW as being a personal attack on himself.
I wouldn't pay Orange Cassidy $1 for that lame ass shit he does in a ring. Tony has a lot of cash but absolutely zero respect for pro wrestling unfortunately
Election years are always divisive, but it's great that Left, Right, Middle, and the Politically Homeless can all unite to take a well-deserved shit on Dave Meltzer.
Actually when the subject was first mentioned by James over on Dutch’s show, I commented that I couldn’t wait to see you guys show’s cartoon and comments on Uncle Dave and quite a few people seemed to feel same. lol. I never tire of that picture of Meltzer looking as he behaves for ages now!
I think Dave's ranting and raving about a guy's podcast while that guy is battling life threatening health conditions is a contender for the Observer's "Most Disgusting Promotional Tactics Of The Year". Good on Tony for the sum, but that "report" was the worst thing Dave's ever written.
I listened to Dutch talk about this on his podcast as well (Dutch is feeling better which is great!) I think it is hilarious that both shows had to stop in the middle of Meltzer's article to mention how badly written it is.
Yep, and half the country thinks they can reason with the half that fucked it up for forty years. That's WHY nothing meaningful gets done; one side is soulless while the other is spineless.
Dutchs daughter posted an update and thank you this morning. Over $100K ...well done to all who helped an old man who needed it.
Easiest donation I ever made. Dutch is amazing and his family is loved by proxy.
Not just Dutch but it also helps his wife too.
@@joshx022 I donated because two years ago by dad had a three month stay in a hospital / transition ward before he passed away from dysphagia. By the grace of god we are in Canada where we have great health care and my dad got the best coverage anyone could ask for. Everything was covered by our OHIP (public medical plan) but i cant even imagine to guess what we would have had to pay in the states. Not eating my lunch out one day and donating $10 in honour of my dads memory (his birthday is Nov 19 and he would have been 87) is the least I could do . 🙏❤🙏
I've heard Dutch say some really racist shit, I can't support him
Not well done to Tony Kahn though. Who disrespected Punk and wrestling. He is still hated, and always will be, by me..
What makes Jim that much more commendable for speaking out on this is at no point did he call out the fact that he donated $5K to Dutch’s cause (which went unreported by Meltzer). He just wants to see his good friends get healthy.
Jim is a good dude deep down
Not that deep
@@robertkelly8559What point was there in you commenting this?
@@walkedoverwaterI think he’s just saying that Jim is a good guy
I took it as a joke, right.@@walkedoverwater
When Dave says "Many are saying" that means "I've made some shit up I'm going to spew out".
It's not him.
Someone else makes something up, and Meltzer just reports it as fact, with no checking.
Some guy joked that next year's Backlash is going to be at the Tokyo Dome. And Meltzer reported it as a serious fact.
"Many are saying" is a classic use of what are termed "weasel words". en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weasel_word Dave has been doing it with his "reporting" for years now.
“ my source is that I made it the f up “
😂 @@danielburger1775
Think he means "me and the voices in my head"
Shout out to James Romero Dutch’s cohost, you can tell how much he loves Dutch based on his reaction to this situation
yea . good guy like Dutch
I love Dutch but I don’t think anyone really thinks about how incoherent that podcast would be with James. He’s the backbone of that show.
@@dngn4774 Every good podcast has a good co-host. Even Brian reels Jim in sometimes to get him back on topic. It's something Conrad never does which is why his stuff generally sucks.
James is one of the best host in all interview based podcast.
Agree@@cameronguerra1480
This was ridiculous and petty even by Dave Meltzer standards
That may even be an understatement.
It was downright pathetic
Boycott Dave
@@thesupervisor3270 if I've never read his magazine in the first place does that count?
I want to see Dutch last the shit out of Meltzer so bad. Even in his weaken state.
@@thesupervisor3270honestly who is reading or listening him that will boycott him? It’s the AEW faithful. I can’t read his words or listen to him talk without feeling like I’m having a stroke. It’s constant hemming and hawing over any criticism of AEW like blatant safety issues and bad programming broken up with 50 umm’s and you know’s.
Dave is a five star muppet.
6 and 3/4
Can we get it up to seven if he's at the Tokyo Dome?
7 star in the Tokyo Dome muppet 😂
I disagree,muppets can actually be entertaining
@@adomorgo You have no clue what is being talked about here, do you? Seppos smh
Brian pointing out that Dave has a vested interest in AEW from the standpoint that it makes the Observer look better is so spot on.
I think Brian has said it best in the past that Dave thought he was going to anoint the next big thing and come out smelling like a rose. He's got to stick with that at this point because his fortunes are so firmly hitched to them.
Well, you really put me on the spot (WOOO!) I got a dog named Spot (WOO!) What I'm really trying to say (WOO!) Is that you really put me on the spot!
It's running down Dave's legs 😂🤣😅 good artwork Travis!
It IS tastefully disgusting! Great job threading that needle.
Very subtle but very accurate!
The russo is loose.
Apparently just like Daves stools
"And then Davey, as fear went through your body, tears went down your cheek, and piss rolled down your leg! Your house started to shake again, the clouds parted, the heavens opened, and what seemed like millions - of voices all said to you in unison, Jabroni!"
James Romero surgical dissection of Meltzer was truly enjoyable. James is a genuinely good dude, and his shows are enjoyable.
It's certainly was.
Yeah he is a great dude. I don't get why all the podcasters are not with him or Brian instead of con man Conrad.
@@tommyfraz. English Conrad is a man among Englishmen 👍
@@Hyde_HillConrad. Damn. That dude. Why? He's so overweight he can't fit onto the camera. I don't mind that, but the hustling for his loan business or whatever it is? It's constant. And he's done podcasts with everyone from Rick Flair to Austn (I think he's actually Rick Flair's son-in-law, explains a lot). They even chose him to host those expanded Dark Side episodes.
At least he couldn't mention his "save with Conrad" scam there.
His takedown of Logan Paul is a good watch too.
Philosophically, AEW is the embodiment of everything Meltzer has been advocating for his entire career. His bias against big men, his Japanese and Mexican fetish, his insistence that if a wrestler was over in one market, they're entitled to be pushed everywhere. Meltzer's influence is all over AEW, of course he's a habitual wagon circler.
That said, Tony Khan did a genuinely good deed and Meltzer managed to turn it into a negative. Jake Hagar made Tony Khan look better than Meltzer did.
Don't thats a false negative. If that was the case all of ROH's matches would have been 7 stars. For some reason either he has a financial stake in the company or really really really wants it to succeed. Dave Meltzer from 10 15 years ago would have shit on aew. Again he shit on a lot of ROH stuff back in the day and that's pretty much aew with better booking.
@@nikoladzhurov1800 I do remember Meltzer back in the day whining about CM Punk being held down in WWE when he’d only been on TV for a month and was still undefeated. In his and other dirt sheet writer’s minds, Punk should have been brought in like he was Flair in 91.
Make no mistake, Meltzer never had principles. He knows that his readership wants to feel like they have inside info that the rest of us don’t. It’s in his interest to convince fans that what’s happening on the indies is the ‘real deal’, that’s how he gets subscribers.
Case in point, anyone who was okay with Jungle Boy, the shooshing librarians, the pizza guy, Joey Ryan, the Broken Matt Hardy gimmick or anything related to Orange Cassidy has no right to complain about Doink, the Red Rooster, Undertaker’s superpowers, Duke the Dumpster or Bra and Panties matches. But they do and Meltzer is just as hypocritical. If it’s happening on the indies, it’s by definition good. That’s Meltzer’s philosophy.
@@nikoladzhurov1800 As his relevance declines, he's craving the dopamine hit of validation. Ego is more dangerous than any drug.
AEW was created to please 4 people, Tony Khan, Meltzer, and the DoucheBucks.
Dutch said on his podcast with James that Tony Kahn is a great person and has no problem with him on that. It's only his booking that he doesn't like. Dutch was very complimentary of Tony and his charitable nature
Jim and Brian have said Tony is a good guy, he's just not a good booker.
@@joemusolf Exactly
@@joemusolfright. He's a nice person, but a fucking nitwit. Just look at the Jaguars 😂
He maybe a good guy who does bad booking. But that doesn't excuse the fact that he compared WWE to Harvey Weinstein. That was disrespectful towards Harvey's victims
5000$ to Tony is like 10$ to regular people so it's not nearly as impressive as other donations proportionally.
How can I put this in the nicest way possible? Meltzer is an insufferable prick. the fact that Dave wrote that hit piece on Dutch while he nearly died as Dutch said on his podcast because he had criticisms about Tony Khan and Khan's business shows his true character. Tony was even nice enough, out of the goodness of his heart, to contribute to the GoFundMe as Meltzer reported himself, and you still can't be civil enough to say "get well soon" really says a lot all about Meltzer as a person and a "journalist" because Dutch critiqued Tony's multimillion Indy promotion.
Time to flood every social media venue with #DaveMeltzerIsTrash
Also Dave just recently wrote about Konnan's health issues, but left out KDawg being critical of TK in the past. FUDM.
@@governorerbe839Konnan's been a Meltzer mark for decades. Meanwhile, Dave hates Dutch and has years for some reason.
First time I've ever heard an American use 'take the piss' 100% correctly.
He also knows how to use ‘wanker’ correctly!
Corny has been around a lot of British wrestlers over the years and has always been somewhat enamoured of British culture.
Corny uses a lot of British slang. Not sure why but as an Englishman I'm all for it.
@@ekmadProbably from being around Adrian Street and Davey Boy.
We're learning 😂
Never mentioned you and Stacy's donation. Or James from WSI, what a stand up dude.
Shameful
As noted in the video, his numbers were outdated, Jim and his wife donated a day after TK, might be that they, at the time Meltzer wrote that article, hadn't been on that list.
Still bad reporting, those numbers and donors should have been updated prior to the release of the newsletter.
They gave after Meltzer wrote his article.
@@Bob-k8pNot after he published it though, he could've easily put them in
@@syko2695 good point.
I love how jim said "well, never the less.." when it was brought up that there was another name conveniently left off that list.
Nice one Jimmy, that's class. Everybody knows jim donated $5000 to the fund but doesn't make a big thing of it. Thankyou jim!
@Michelle-kc8ht your Mom cares, or at least that what she said
We may not always agree with him, but most of us are on the same page that Cornette is a great guy.
ATTA BOY LUTHER
@@Michelle-kc8ht obviously you do if you commented
Good job from the Liberal Trump, glad he still loves him some publicity
When America is at its most divided. We all can come together in our shared hatred and disgust of uncle Dave.
When Cornette, Russo and Bischoff all agree on something you know you’re a real fool
Tony Kahn really needs to make a public statement and denounce Dave at this point.
But knowing Tony, he's going to just let Dave continue spiraling and sperging out.
I second this. If he wants to be taken seriously as a business owner, he needs to distance himself from this clown.
Tony needs Dave to stay his friend so I doubt he will.
Why denounce someone that is actively on his payroll? He needs to fire him.
Not possible,Dave is an investor
and Dave will still give Tony 4 stars, 5 stars if it was in NJPW! 🤣🤣🤣
Dutch started getting genuinely angry in his recent podcast episode about it, especially as Dickhead Dave brought his wife into it.
You rarely hear Dutch swear in that manner, it was obvious Meltzer has crossed the line with it.
Dutch's wife is not a public figure. Dave should keep his mouth shut about family members that are not involved.
@@catherinepye2708 Dave Meltzer has never, nor will ever, behave as a professional journalist. He's just a gossip, and as his mental capacities decline, it's being fully exposed. That's still not an excuse for him being scum by mentioning her health when, as stated, her business ain't no one but her's (and Dutch's by proxy).
If Dutch was younger, he would’ve ripped uncle Dave’s head off and shit down his bastard neck.
Ironic thing is that he’s never had a bad conversation with Tony from the first time he met him.
I mean shit the bed Dave there’s a difference between talking about Tony Kahn aBooker/matchmaker and just as a human being doing something for somebody and just wants to help someone out because he has the means to do so
Meltzer is deeply sick in the mind with how many hand grenades he has jumped on and bullets he has jumped infront of to try protect Tony Khan, AEW and the wrestlers he champions
$$$$ talks.
I'm a diehard fan of many things, games, movies, whatever, but I would never defend those things from valid criticism or opinions, or would even consider to endanger my friendships.
this is not normal behavior.
Those weren't hand grenades.They were Chuck Taylor's invisible grenades from PWG
@@EnforcerX71 Vanity's louder.
Yeah, it's getting to the point where I think Dave should seek professional help (I say this as none judgmental as possible, as I too struggle with mental health and I'm on meds and regularly sees a therapist) this is not normal behavior.
The video we've all been waiting for, for the past few days. Perfect thumbnail as well, Travis never disappoints.
The fact that Jim and Stacey matched Tony Khan's donation and Meltzer intentionally ignored that in his article is frankly disgusting. Dave has gone from delusional to reprehensible.
Dave Meltzer is the new "shit stain" in the wrestling business. Makes Russo looks like a boy scout.
Russo is harmless as long as he don't have a job. Dave has turned into a pos
The fact that Russo and Cornette both have the same opinions of Meltzer and AEW speaks volumes.
He's a turtles head that talks
New? He's always been one
@mattrant3722 Holy shit! Wait, THEY.......AGREE on something?! I never thought those 2 would ever agree on anything in my lifetime 😂
Dave reported TK and Jericho as the 'Top' donors, despite The Cornettes giving $500 more 🤤
That was despicable from Dave to leave Cornette out just because he doesn't agree with him & what makes it worse is Cornette is correct & Dave is always incorrect on wrestling. He's a very strange man.
Adam Copeland donated 10 thousand he ignores that
They didn't.They matched Tony's donation of 5000
@@leemoore8446That was Chris Bey's gofundme, not Dutch.
@@leemoore8446no he didn’t
Been waiting 3 days for this. TBH Jim sounded more exasperated than angry. I guess u can’t get angry at Dave who’s clearly having a mental breakdown
As someone who was too lazy to look up what Dave said, this is helpful
Love your content btw
"Based on the gibberish thats being spoken today dare I say you are not missing a thing." Witness for the Prosecution
I think I’m pretty safe saying on behalf of everyone who knows - you rule!
With Dave's grammar, you could look it up and still not understand what he said...
It’s generally a good idea to never look up anything Meltzer has to say.
I have been eagerly awaiting this one!
Me too.
We all have. And I'm saddened we never to to read "Edmund; a butler's tale".
@@Sir_Gerald_Nosehairs. Cccrrraammed with sizzling gypsies!
This is twice in the span of a few months where Meltzer has used the serious health issues of a wrestling legend to his benefit and it's sick well beyond wrestling just as a human being
As much as i and everyone else have been looking forward to this.... i'm just more happy that Dutch is doing better.
Brian got it right, Dave is _emotionally_ invested in AEW. People say he’s on the payroll, but Dave is in deeper than money can buy… he _needs_ AEW to sound good.
The only thing on this planet that corrupts more quickly, more severely, and more thoroughly than money is ego and its constant need to be fed.
EgoMania running wild is the fastest path to self-destruction. When Meltzer finally loses everything, it’s going to be satisfying with only himself to blame.
He's also financially invested tbf. I don't think it's an understatement to say Dave Meltzer's newsletter subscribers are almost entirely AEW marks.
Dave Meltzer's motivation is wanting someone, anyone to finally overtake WWE for good and it's now costing him friendships and credibility.
I’m a retired 911 medic. Sepsis is 1 of the most dangerous medical emergencies we encounter. It’s such a fine line of catching it before it’s too late. And once you have passed point of no return there basically no return. We were trained on recognizing early signs of being septic than on any other thing we responded to. I actually had it from a skent knee and a knee sprain that happened at the same time playing football in 1970 as a child and Drs told my mom I had the flu. Thus went on for a week. My mom being persistent took me back to the Dr 1 more time and they realized what I had then. I spent the next 45 days in the hospital. The Dr told my mom if she had waited 1 more day I would have died.
As someone who genuinely disagreed with Dave and can truly honestly say after all these years Dave had earned my disliking towards him. Dutch is the most inoffensive personality in wrestling and it was a good thing that Tony did. Instead of just reporting on how it was amazing and kind and generous of what Tony did (don’t even have to mention Jim) he taints it by weaponizing Tony’s donation. I’m beginning to believe it isn’t Tony rather people he generously allows in his circle and gives his money to
Dave sucks and continues to prove he’s irrelevant.
But. These weirdos (excluding Jim,Brian,)keep listening to him
Does Meltz have a Rating Fetish 😂😂
There is a universe where Dave Meltzer retired as the most celebrated historian in the history of professional wrestling. We do not currently live in that universe.
AEW broke his brain. I can’t think of anybody who has tanked their legacy over the last 5 years to the degree that Meltzer has, besides maybe Chris Jericho.
Tell that to reddit who cream themselves any time Meltzer gives his world renowned stars to the plebs
@@DripsawKillawouldn't that assume he had a brain in the first place? I mean he could of had tge shibata operation his stance is hilarious that's our Dave.. 😂😂😂😂
That makes no sense, everyone keeps mentioning him
What Dave doesn’t understand is that if you wildly overpay for talent that doesn’t draw you much money in return, what happens is that you price out any competition (TNA, MLW, indies), costing jobs in the long term, and ensure that when AEW eventually fails, no one will want to start another national promotion.
WWE making TNA into OVW 3.0: Fine I'll do it myself
Even when your business is a passion project, no owner likes to admit they overpay for talent.
People are too quick to ignore/forget that a duopoly is no less fucked than a monopoly.
@@badladyami Making all talent over priced is bad for everyone
Meltzer digging himself into another hole he can’t seem to understand how it popped up. That’s just another Wednesday.
Notice Jim squashed Brian trying to bring up that he donated $5k to Dutch’s gofundme. Quickly shutting it down to avoid bringing attention to it because he’s a good man who just wants his friend healthy again.
I hope this shameful display by Meltzer is the nail in his coffin, and drives people away from his out of touch newsletters and his TH-cam channel. KARMA wrote down his name and number and will be keeping tabs on him from here out.
Meltzer: I must defend the honour of fair Tony at every opportunity.
Khan: Dave, please stop. You're making me look bad.
Weirdest white knight crusade this side of Trumpsters defending fornicating kids.
For clarity, I'm referring to Dave.
More realistically he would be fearing for his life.
Anyone see what Mike Johnson wrote about Dave? He ripped him to shreds LOL
Have you got a link to that?
Where can i read that please
Love how Jim doesn't even care that he wasn't mentioned for donating.. He cares way more about his former freind disrespecting his friends family
Muck Feltzer!
Dutch?
Mad?
No, no, no ,no.
He just wanted to slap the taste out of Uncle Dave's mouth. 😁🤣
Just like Dirty Dutch said, some things just need a good, hard slap - and Dementia Dave might need several
I imagine the lead-up to that slap going like that segment where he fires Cornette lmao.
"Dave, you don't drink, do drugs or anything like that, do ya?"
Here we fucking GO buddy. Been waiting for this.
Travis is a national treasure.
“Here we are years later, it’s probably tough to realise that The Young Bucks don’t mean a FUCKIN’ thing!” 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
As someone who wasn't familiar with their work before Aew I was very interested in what they can do, But goddamn it's been such a let down
The moment we've been waiting for 😊
Travis Heckel hits it out of the park with this thumbnail ! Keep him on the podcast!
Next AEW show, the crowd should do the dual chants of, "Fuck you, Meltzer!" and "Get well, Dutch!"
To help, the cadence would be in the style of fuck you Cena, Cena sucks which we all know and love.
Sadly, you know almost all of the 2,200 in attendance will be on DAVE'S side.
All twenty-seven of them?
Travis, this artwork may be your finest yet. Absolutely awesome😂
lol, really?
Well done Jim and Stacey for donating 5k.
The Russo around the calves is a really nice touch. A1 illustration once again.
Ohhhhh i was waiting for this one. Dave, prepare for a real ass chewing.
"If you always do what you always did, then you always get what you always got" great words
No one has done more to damage the mystique of wrestling than Dave Meltzer. His fanzine killed Kayfabe more than the Madison Square Garden incident and he spoils every single surprise or angle.
He should have been black balled years ago. Wanker
He doesn't ruin the surprise for anyone who doesn't pay him for his newsletter or click on one of his stories. The people who read him over the years wanted to learn more and wanted things exposed.
@Rjensen2 every other two bit website also quotes or takes his word as law.
Wrestling is much better when you don't know what is happening behind the curtain.
@@averylargecrow It comes down ENTIRELY to choice.
Why are you so pissy about choices others make in how they consume entertainment?
Side bar...it's hilarious how you think Meltzer damaged the mystique of wrestling. It has been routinely exposed as a work since the late 1800s, at least.
@Rjensen2 I'm not pissy. I was stating my opinion, if you can't debate like an adult and have to leap to Dave's defence, maybe you're the pissy one.
@@averylargecrow The truth hurts, doesn't it?
Just look at how you replied.
Seek professional help.
Been waiktng on this all week. Just got in from work. Just got a cheese steak and some mozzarella sticks. Bout to enjoy this.
I’ve disagreed with Dave’s takes for a long time but this is the first time he’s gotten this low, that I can remember. It’s one thing to have bad takes defending AEW, but to use the health of Dutch as a segway into these takes is just low and gross.
Now, we wait for Jim's reaction to Dutch's reaction, complete with offer to slap the dogshit out of Dave on his behalf.
I’m sure that even when Unlce Dave is on his deathbed he’ll remind us of how great Aew is and has been doing.
Travis outdid himself with the artwork on this one LOL
This was the most anticipated clip from Corny
If AEW filled the arena with poison gas, Meltzer would give it 5 stars and say "it was the best air i ever did breathe"
@4:30 Tony listens to him so much that Dave takes it as a criticism of himself when AEW is criticized.
Love when Corny pulls out the UK slang 👌💯
Just checked the Gofundme, Unless Dave donated anonymously, he didn’t donate to Dutch. So who is to question when he hasn’t done it himself. Considering without wrestlers Dave wouldn’t have a bad newsletter to spew.
Just wondering, if Dirty Dutch slaps him in Florida will we hear it in Kentucky? I'm hoping for a sonic boom that cracks windows and sets off car alarms. LOL
Nah, see that's what happens when Danny hodge and Gene Anderson shake hands. LOL
I've been waiting for this for Jim and Brian's take on this issue
Much tamer reaction than I was expecting .
Insane how Tony or WWE as rich as they are didn’t cover the bills in good faith out of how much Dutch has done in the wrestling business
I cant believe people pay for Meltzer's writing at this point. That article sounds like an average wrestling reddit post.....
Tony Khan made one of the biggest donations to Dutch's Go Fund Me, so clearly he's willing to put disagreements over wrestling aside, but Dave can't. Why is Dave sticking up for AEW to the point that he's even going against Tony's wishes? Truly crazy behaviour.
Dave has exposed himself as a tribal AEW fan. Why he had to take shots at someone for criticising someone on a professional level and not liking what he sees with AEW is beyond me. He isn't criticising Tony as a person and even Jim has said he is a nice guy from when he met him but the two things aren't the same and you can be critical of someone on a professional level and still like them as a person. Dutch is under no obligation from this point going forward to say noce things about AEW just because Tony was kind enough to donate and Tony even knows that. It shows how petty and vindictive Dave is for him to do that just because someone doesn't like AEW as much as he does.
I hope Corny talks about the go cart race he had with Macho Man - its on the Macho Man Mixtape posted by WWE Vault.
Sweet, three hours! Looking forward to watching this.
The ART / ILLUSTRATION for this is ❤😂 just....BANG, ❤😅
Meltzer started off talking about Dutch & ended up talking about AEW.
Corny started off talking about Meltzer & ended up talking about AEW.
WHERE'S THE HEAT?!?!
It's not really possible to talk about anything related to Dave Meltzer over the past 5 years without mentioning AEW. They are attached at the hip.
AEW is literally Dave Meltzer's entire personality now, to the point where he takes criticism of AEW as being a personal attack on himself.
Dave legitimately thinks he's Locutus of the Dubbalos.
Finally! How many people have been waiting for this?
I wouldn't pay Orange Cassidy $1 for that lame ass shit he does in a ring. Tony has a lot of cash but absolutely zero respect for pro wrestling unfortunately
This isn't about personal preferences in wrestling, it's about something more important
Anyone who still sees Uncle Dave as a credible source for news, need to get their collective heads checked.
Been waiting for this one!
Election years are always divisive, but it's great that Left, Right, Middle, and the Politically Homeless can all unite to take a well-deserved shit on Dave Meltzer.
How about a Gag Order on Meltz. 🤔
Actually when the subject was first mentioned by James over on Dutch’s show, I commented that I couldn’t wait to see you guys show’s cartoon and comments on Uncle Dave and quite a few people seemed to feel same. lol. I never tire of that picture of Meltzer looking as he behaves for ages now!
Dave will always double-down on Stupid to keep from admitting he's wrong
The point was that Meltzer busted on Dutch for being "ungrateful " to Tony, accepting TK's donation but still critical of him
I think Dave's ranting and raving about a guy's podcast while that guy is battling life threatening health conditions is a contender for the Observer's "Most Disgusting Promotional Tactics Of The Year".
Good on Tony for the sum, but that "report" was the worst thing Dave's ever written.
i was expecting "lets start with a man thats very ill... dave meltzer"
Dave really ruined himself with this imo🎉
I listened to Dutch talk about this on his podcast as well (Dutch is feeling better which is great!) I think it is hilarious that both shows had to stop in the middle of Meltzer's article to mention how badly written it is.
The one we’ve been waiting for.
Huge respect for Jim donating 5k and well done to everyone who donated to Dutch.
Would love jim's take on dave's WWE in the tokyo dome blunder😂
"how dare you speak bad about my boyfriend" -Dave Meltzer
One could say that Meltzer face-planted into dog shit with this one.
My brain read that as "face-painted in dogshit" on the first read. Both accurate. 🤣
Saw the notification and said ‘hooboy, here we go..’ out loud
According to the executives at TBS they agree that Dave is an out of touch old man.
Don't ever change Jim you are awesome, thank you for being yourself
Dave should be ignored
0:34 😂😂😂 I love this show but yes 😂
Oh shit...here we go
Moral of the story is the American health care system is fucked
Yep, and half the country thinks they can reason with the half that fucked it up for forty years. That's WHY nothing meaningful gets done; one side is soulless while the other is spineless.
Yep just like their gun laws
That thumbnail
Smeltz is on the take. There's no way someone defends something to the extent he does. He defends better than Cochran. 😂