DMC: Peak of Combat Gameplay Analysis
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ม.ค. 2024
- This is an unbiased analysis without comparing unavailable previous versions of this game (1.0), because it is unrealistic for a gacha game to not sell characters, and is officially discarded by the developers. So, I only take the version we're currently playing to make my video.
Of course I will bring Punishing: Gray Raven, because that game is EVERYTHING that Peak of Combat wants (and needs) to be, starting from how incredible responsive feels from everything related to its gameplay.
I'm using AI voice. The format of this video is a prototype of the guide I'm working on for DMC5 Dante (it has a better, less robotic voice, don't worry).
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Didn't expect that PGR would be positively used as the point of comparison here :O
Well PGR and dmc are hack n slash games so yeah comparing them is legit and also the PGR devs have also stated that PGR go it’s inspiration for dmc
The fact that it's way more satisfying and easier to acquire to use Alpha (A PGR character) than the character where she's literally taken inspiration from is just disturbingly disappointing.
@@yaboilascall Yeah, PGR's character gacha design is unironically quite merciful compared to most other gacha game's banner designs. Couple that with other factors like us being able to earn enough BCs for nearly 20x rolls within a single month from just clearing the dailies and weekies alone, and also the fact that KuroGames basically gives us a free unit once every two months (given us yet more time to save up for that 60 Pity Ceiling)... Small wonder that getting a new character in PGR can feel more like simply buying them from an in-game for some.
Sure there's the weapon and CUB gacha too, but their pity are significantly lower in comparison. And let's not forget about the Transcendant/Un unit banner, who can be earned from a single 10x roll (sure, pairing them with Construct/Omn units applies a damage penalty on them, necessitating them to be upgraded fully to have little issues in the damage dealing department. But if fun factor is what you're more concerned with over the big number...)
@@chiboy5567 I was more not expecting it considering PGR doesn't have a traditional jump button and dedicated aerial rave combo system in place (excluding cases like Karerina Radiant Daybreak/Scire and Bianca - Abystigma/Stigmata at least, although keeping the latter aired for longer period of time is pretty challenging to pull off) to make for the comparison. But it definitely also feels like a stylish action-esqe game on its own
@@SapientiaNight It's literally the peak of action in mobile games right now. I couldn't come up of another title as fast paced as the battles in PGR, probably Black Desert but you're stuck with one character/job class.
That's really funny, because we already had beta, where charecters was independent AND with guns. But developers just threw it away🥲. And i'm not talking about 1.0
WDUM there are only two versions the alpha version which had newer version which is the average mobile game actually scratch that even worse
@@ETERNAL_9000 th-cam.com/video/jP-LsKzzQTA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=qgv8Uey_4Deop1lp
Which version are you talking about if not 1.0 then? DMC4 refrain? XD
@@Darenca th-cam.com/video/jP-LsKzzQTA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=ninYV8pbIZdisFkk I'm talking About this version
Guns, taunts, weapon switching, styles, close to full movesets with multiple new moves for old weapons, and more than just 2-3 weapons total. As well as combo trials, a first for the series, which they seem to have taken out.
Even with compromises, a DMC game with every character playable and most of the old weapons with new moves, with long wanted features/modes like combo trials, co-op, pvp and a superboss, would've been something to celebrate.
Great analysis video. I wasn't interested in this game at all but it's great that people are breaking down what exactly is wrong with this game on a functional level.
It's a damn shame this game couldn't have been as good as it should have been. There was a lot of potential in the beginning from what I saw.
the devs must be smoking some illegal most rarest dr*gs when they took away dante guns xD
Also no wonder why many DMC players play PGR, their combat gameplays are really good and polished, especially for a mobile game
Personally my favorite way to play this game is how I love to play my favorite game in the series: DMC2. Ice Lady featuring old reliable hand and gun.
In all seriousness, she's one of the few "fun" characters only because she has "E&I" as her style skill. Besides normal Dante, most other characters, including her, are rigid and/or have glaring issues with their movesets.
I understand that PoC can end up being good gacha game with the current system thanks to these suggestions.
But my hope for this game is for it to be a portable version of the DMC experience. And I feel that 1.0 is closer to that role than 2.0. You draw a lot of parallels to PGR cuz it's essentially just another version of the game that PGR was. I was kinda hoping for a mobile game that played uniquely like DMC.
It sucks that Dante used his two guns during the cutscenes but can't use it in gameplay.
You think that´s bad? Notice how all the playable Lady variations don´t have a Kalina Ann?
@iminto-tactical-waifumost likely as a separate character tho
@iminto-tactical-waifui guess they will add char bcz u know they will run out of characters to release if they used all of it
I still dont understand why they release gacha game when dmc have limited characters
@nolabjin there are many unused stuffs that devs haven't reuse yet from 1.4 to 2.0... Dante with his guns would come... as a seperate character and get this, there is a DMC2 costume back in the 1.4 beta... so, put two and two, then you get what i mean; "Gunslinger Dante"
Here's another one, Dante in 1.4 have more movesets with his Rebellion back then and know that there's two combo buttons back in the beta (attack A and attack B). The Default Dante we start with only have all the stuffs from attack A button, the ones from attack B are either scrapped (which i doubt) or unused. But i bet they would reused it if they... release Dante in his DMC1 costume (yes, that also exist in the beta) and have those unused moves, reused... called it "Swordmaster Dante" or, Trish later would have some moves/combos reused from Dante's unused attack/combo animations.
Money hungry game, with unpolished, buggy gameplay.
Where are all the money go, one may wonder...
Yep, PGR exists and handled these battle mechanics waaaaaaaaaaay better
This video is actually a very good summary of what's fundamentally wrong with the games basic combat. People who have played other action games know that the operation is very bad here, and the flow of combat is not smooth at all. Even if there are more combos, the lack of command buffering wont be fun.
no way they made vital aspects of combat server sided on a dmc game...
this is why Judgement cut and royal guard will never work properly. Ping
We definitely need to show this video to the developers in some way
Like if they care
@@len1802 To some capacities they do and you can see it in the beta 1.0. I'm pretty sure Capcom had something to do with the direction this game took.
@@anolongerhuman2853 Trust me, I see it in the 1.0 version, but with how development went, devs people getting fired, chats from Discord getting on mad fire, thousands of money being only used in ads in everywhere, it's a mess and they said "We're pointing to a casual audience", they even scammed a lot of players with false promises of rewards in concursos, also asking to the fans to make their cooperation for free, like translation, casting of voice, even using footage of the previous version with the discarted system mechanics in the publicity. I refuse to believe that Capcom was involved, neither Itsuno in his sane judgement.
There are many unused stuffs that devs haven't reuse yet from 1.4 to 2.0... Dante with his guns would come... as a seperate character and get this, there is a DMC2 costume back in the 1.4 beta... so, put two and two, then you get what i mean; "Gunslinger Dante"
Here's another one, Dante in 1.4 have more movesets with his Rebellion back then and know that there's two combo buttons back in the beta (attack A and attack B). The Default Dante we start with only have all the stuffs from attack A button, the ones from attack B are either scrapped (which i doubt) or unused. But i bet they would reused it if they... release Dante in his DMC1 costume (yes, that also exist in the beta) and have those unused moves, reused... called it "Swordmaster Dante" or, Trish later would have some moves/combos reused from Dante's unused attack/combo animations.
Money hungry game, with unpolished, buggy gameplay.
Where are all the money go, one may wonder...
Analysis by Widow without a clickbait title??? We are going serious in 2024
the game in general is still a fun game, probably better than 2 and even DmC. I still highly expect the future of poc.
You've never played DmC lmao
I think you pretty much nailed it. Gameplay is enjoyable, but the game needs more polish with the combos. As long as you see the three characters as one, the moveset isn't as limited as if you view them as individuals. Once you start getting a few Legendary characters, you notice they got a whole lot more to their movesets as well, with the peak right now being the SSR Limited Vergil that has his own Rate Up banner at launch.
A problem I had was the initial impressions of the 100-summon banner having a $60 price tag attached, and that made me actually uninstall the moment I saw it, but I gave it another go a bit later. Now that I've played it for a while, have taken a step back and looked at its Shop and gameplay modes, it's honestly not that bad a game, nor all that greedy (outside of that 100-summon that other games provide its players starting out for free). There's plenty of things to do outside of Story which ends up being one of the few things in the game that require the Pizza stamina. The monetization is reasonable when comparing it to other popular gacha games. Reverse: 1999 has a subscription for $6.99, PoC asks $5. Nikke sells skins for $60 and PoC's most premium skin is $30, most being $20 and weapon skins $10. Personally I find these prices for skins to be not worth it, but it's competitively priced with other gacha games. Let's not pretend that most gacha games don't tend to have options in their monetization that pushes well into and over the $100 range as well. And it's not like DMC5 isn't a $60 game on Steam that sells $140 worth of DLC, one such DLC being the character Vergil (although at a cost much cheaper than PoC).
I also think they need to re-evaluate the Pizza stamina cost per story section though, as you get 1 per 8 minutes, and it is around 30 per section at least in Ch.4, meaning you can end up taking an elevator that cost you 30 Pizza, then have to wait 4 hours before you can take a few more steps and get into a battle. It breaks up the pacing way too much, but at least as I mentioned before, there are quite a few modes that unlock as you progress through the Story, which do not cost Stamina and are necessary to progress your characters and account anyways, so you can get some time out of the game even when you've chomped away all your Pizza.
Overall I like the game. I think it's getting a bit too much unfair criticism, although it definitely still deserves some, and I hope the developers can take steps to improve it so that it won't be a predictable End of Service game within a year or at most two.
take a look on beta 1.0 gameplay, search "DMC peak of combat Combos" is a video from 2 years later. U gonna understand what this game could have been
It may lead to EOS if they keep the game not f2p friendly, and the stamina sucks
The stamina sucks but I haven’t spent a dime and got 6 s ranks already 😂
If I describe my impressions over these couple of days from the release, it will be “I already saw this in the PGR, it is implemented in the same way as in the PGR, and so on”. Also, from an aesthetic point of view, the gameplay of PGR currently looks much nicer than in PoC due to more detailed models, smooth animations and special effects.
But as was said in the video, if the developers make Jump Cancels more useful, diversify and deepen the gameplay of each character (I don’t know, maybe add reversals, directional moves or something else), so that one character on the field becomes more independent and does not depend on changing characters to make it stylish (like in the PGR), then this would help make the PoC more similar to the classic DMC gameplay...
For now, my interest in the game is only based on nostalgia for what was in DMC 3-5 (movements, music, sounds of weapons and voice lines) and that I can play it on my phone.
I hope the game has a good future and it won’t turn into a donation ocean only for whales.
This is just my opinion and impression, don't take it too seriously.
My problem with this game? Everything.
Lady is cool
I played the beta verison of the game and I'm absolutely hate it i can't believe they changed the entire combat.
You got that right ma friend. No gunslinger dante is disrespectful. That's why i delete it.
Whelp judging from RK's recent Twitter, looks like they weren't trying to make the game good in the first place. They've never intended to listen to the community
I just can’t believe they ditched 1.0 for this shit. Like I get why, this hypothetically makes more money (idk why people would spend money on a bad combat system though), but the original version was night and day better compared to this. It’s disgraceful.
1.0 beta has the best combat
hey guys the game gacha system is horrible i have opened over 50 summons and havent got anything for dante except once the victory sword which i ranked up once and everything else came for lady and for characters i dont have, lady has became an s rank where dante and nero are still at rank b and every fight encounter you get (no way you can win) unless you spend orbs and other things to improve your odds and not having guns and weapon switching is not what i was expecting anyway game need many more improvements
I’ll be honest. I never really gave 2 shits about the game. Even if it was good. A good phone game vs the other games on PC is just leagues better regardless
Nope its a big nope prices need to be fixed especially the "discounts" that are only visually discounts limited tickets needs to be removed no cacs grab characters anymore dix 50/50 rates and make a guarantee 50/50 after you loose it fix first clear rewards cause they removed them and added them to the shop make story mode dont cost stamina either way you need to power up your character in order to advance the story there is no 30 stamina needed every 20 steps my character takes and they literally should balance the bosses gameplay in raid who on the developer team has ever fought the part 3 raid and defeated it in the time given since it always respawns orbs that take time to kill and they heal it 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 the game needs a 2-3 day maintenance and revert it to its first beta state that was far superior to the actual release unless they want to stay with the 50 whales they have cause i dont see f2p stay for long in this game
So, I was omegaright for all those years that this game will turn out as garbage. Figures.
Yup, turning DMC as a mobile gacha game is already a bad move.
This games is fun as fuck tho, despite it flaws
Never thought there would worst devil may cry than the dmc reboot lol
DMC2 says hello !
Even DMC2 have better gameplay with mods lol
@@dragonsdogma2062DMC 2 can now be a fun game thanks to mods. It fixed every single problem that DMC 2 had.
the fact that it looks this good yet they managed to fucc up the combat and overall game with gacha is just saddening.
If you can pkay this game smoothly, then just stick with emulating DMC3 special edition or stream DMC 5 if you really want an authentic dmc experience.
This game is a soulless gacha garbage
No guns? Cringe bro
Technically, there's Lady, which is a whole arsenal of guns and gun skills across her three versions currently in the game. You just happen to swap to a different character than Dante when you use them. I don't personally mind this approach, if the developers polish the system further.
@nustaniel don't just step in to defend them bro, I mean we can't even use ebony and ivory, and the fact that we have to switch characters makes it worse, we could of had lady as a fully fledged out playable character but instead we only get her as a ranged character that doesn't use catalyna ann
@@Deathy75 I honestly don't care if a free mobile gacha adaptation of DMC has Dante not using Ebony and Ivory with currently available Dante characters. They can have plans to add that later for all we know. The whole point of the guns is to string combos together and keep enemies airborne, which Lady does perfectly well if you swap to her. I don't see each character as individual characters, but a collection of moves I can string together between the three I have selected. The more they add, the more customization there will be and the more synergetic characters you can swap between. Personally, I don't care if it switches from Dante to Lady to do the same things I'd do with only Dante. Why does it make it worse because you have to switch characters? I see the three you select as part of a bigger whole, not as three different characters on their own. I see it as a way to customize the moves you bring into battle. The system needs more polish though, as it can be a bit wonky, but there's a good foundation to build upon in the game already.
@@nustaniel I will not go into a full debate for something as simple as keeping the iconic weapon of a character
@@Deathy75 I'd expect a variant of Dante in the gacha that is revolving solely around the use of his guns in the future. Would make sense from a company making profit point of view.
This game have a clunky movement since the beta. Other Chinese game do much better like PGR, Hi3, AG,...
Clunky gameplay
Give up, they won't make any changes! As early as the start of the test in 2023, I and other players who participated in the test actively gave suggestions, but they all ignored them!
So he went even harder to find ways to extract money! For example, the Virgil Demon Crusher was originally free, but now it costs $2.
Or maybe the main story line originally gave you the fire attribute Leti in the early stage, but now it’s gone!
By the way, I’d like to remind you one thing. The last new character to be released in the Chinese server is September 21st. After that, there will only be an ugly one on Christmas Day and a skin that costs 30 US dollars.
Let's face it, their company probably just wants to make a buck and call it a day, and that's it, come on 😏
@user-uv4io6tu8p they Even removed vergil count thunder from the base pool, so they can milk him later, this fucking sucks
you cant expect the game will have the same experience with the console
Didnt expect it console lvl. 1.0 combat already provide fun enough gameplay
they just had to take all combo potential out for more microtransaction thats is current 2.0 combat
My guy didn't even check the previous version that had all that. They removed it and dumbed down so they can sell you more characters in the gacha shop.
take a look on beta 1.0 gameplay of this game, search "Peak of combat combos" u gonna understand what this game could have been.
The original was definitely more like the console games idk wtf they was thinking when they went global😭 it isnt that bad in my opinion but the old versions was way more fun
And this is exactly why Punishing: Gray Raven was present in the video with so much emphasis.
It clearly shows that a mobile game can be THAT good if you do things correctly.
This game turned out to be a horrible
DISGUSTINGLY GREEDY SHAMELESSLY CASH COW FOR THE DEVS LIKE LITERALLY THE COMPANY SHOULD JUST BEG FOR MONEY OUTSIDE
"Peak of Combat" ☠️, what a joke 😂.
Peak of downfall
Bad at the end of the day
Bro get a mic and narrate it yourself, this artificial voices take all the soul out of any video.
Good commentary on the game tho.