Join Dr. Pervez Hoodbhoy as he explains the rise and downfall of Muslims. This insightful video provides a brief overview of the history of Muslims and their impact on the world.
There were Arab Muslim traders settled along the Malabar coast even during the life time of the Prophet.. Rest of the Muslims did not come from outside but local Hindus got converted.Before tge arrival ofMuslims, India had wi
Continue: India had witnessed many upheavals including greek, Kushan, Huna, and scythian invasions. The disapoearance of Buddhism from India was due to the hostilities Buddhists faced. So history is the record of past happenings.But it is humannature not to accept unsavoury facts. .
My point is why do Muslims in India consider the history of the Arabs as their history? Just as the history of Indian Christianity and European Christianity is different.
It is such a strange phenomena where Muslims of India and Pakistan take pride in achievements of foreign Muslims. Even the Muslim rulers within India were all foreigners. It is like a converted Christian in India and Pakistan taking pride in European civilizations and empires. It just does not make any sense whatsoever.
After watching what Pervez Hoodbhoy had to say, its sad to see that Islam can destroy the last vestige of honesty, integrity and decency in an educated person
Correction with no offense. Baghdad was destroyed by Halagu in 1258, not Genghis Khan who had been dead for 31 years, way before arrival of his grandson Halagu in Baghdad theater. By the way, Genghis Khan died in year 1227.
I don't understand this concept of "we Muslims". Which Muslims is he talking about when he says "Muslims"? Muslims have been spread in multiple kingdoms from 7th century. At the time when some Muslims were occupying foreign lands, other Muslims in other kingdoms were starving for food! When some Muslims were translating advanced Indian knowledge into their local languages in Bagdad and Persian, foreign invaders were producing destitute Muslim children in India. When Abdul Gafar Khan was fighting for India's freedom, orphan children of foreign invaders were fighting for an Islamic Caliphate, which is now being called as Pak! All kinds of Muslims existed always! Since Pakistanis are not clear on who their father is, they call every great father as their own. But, no father, including Afghanistan is willing to accept this orphan!
Indian Moslesm or Invaders had no relations with civilisation of baghdad under abbasids. 😂😂😂 Those who came to india or converted here were mostly central asian turks mongols afghans etc.
Sirs,it is the institutions/Universities/Academies which propelled European science and technology. The golden age of Arab religion with Abbasid caliphate at Baghdad had some individuals of different nationalities who did some seminal work and translations in science but not backed by institutions. Madarsas remained the backbone of Arab religion's religious education.
Pl. Ignore typos in my above post. The period of Islamic contributions to scientific knowledge was from 8th CE to 14th CE. The destruction of Islamic centres of learning by Mongol invasions in 13thCE all acrosd West Asia brought about the decline in Islamic knowledge traditions and due to the rise of orthodox clergy.
Great men of Mutazilites movement were Ex Muslim and atheists. Dr. Parvez Hoodbouy is also an Ex Muslim and atheist. Why does he yearn and lament for Muslim and not for humanity is beyond my comprehension. After all , Muslim will do the same to Dr sahab what Gazali did to mutazilites.
The question is not what Imam Ghazali said, but why everyone had to accept what he said This is the real question. Rather than talking about the religious complexities of Islam, you were free to blame everything on someone else
The guy, and others like him, have no clue about what Imam Ghazali said and what impact it had on Muslims. Imam Ghazali believed in occasionalism, and the belief in occasionalism does not negate human initiative and effort. It is clearly stated by scholars who explained occasionalism that it is the custom of God that He creates things in a certain way, and that is for our benefit also. Hence, for example, we need not worry about gravity every morning we wake up, as we can be reasonably confident that our feet will land in the ground and not fly upward when we walk. The guy mentions the Muslim custom of saying if God wills for everything, as if that entails doing nothing and ceasing all human initiative, which is just not true. If that were the case, Muslims would cease going to school for knowledge, stop going to doctors for treatment, stop drinking water for thirst, and basically stop doing anything in life: but surely that's not the case. For the record the scientific method was introduced by Ibn al Haytham, who believed in occasionalism himself. If occasionalism were the cause behind decline in science among Muslims, then what stopped the Iranian Shias from producing scientific geniuses for hundreds of years despite their mutazila creed?
He does not talk of Contributions made by Islamic scholars of Cental Asia, Iraan, Iraq Ottoman Turkey, Spain, and N. Africa. The European Dark Ages were lighted upby the scientific contributions of Muslim scholars.true they got their initialimpetus from Greek, Indian and Christian sources. But madtook that knowledge forward by doing olreserch and investigation. The period of Islamic knowledge was fro 8Th Century CE to 1th CE.
He is religious scientist he is so old man should start praying for his heaven in his last days but so rediculised person he is destroying future of youths
All Religions specially three prominent revealed ones are BASED ON THE WORD "BELIEVE" .Which simply means "SUPERSTITION"that is why religions are "Manipulatable"or "Manoeable"to exploit their believers causing bloodshed hates.
Only Abrahamic religions don't . All Eastern religions budhdhism, Jainism, various sects of Hinduism are extremely scientific and atheistic. In fact astronomy is common to them plus native American Maya Inca and chinese. Only Abrahamics like Christians and Muslims believe in a flat earth.
if we follow hood bhi...then why Nato and usa with very high technology....run away from Afghnistan.....with hand very weaker and less taliban...this gentelman studied physics..and ...speaking about islam even he dont ABC of islam....
🌀🌍🔭🔬 *professor* 👉 *would you please explain, the first & fore most commandment of Allha (SWT) after Qalmatu alast ash Had* ☝ *اشھدان لا الہ الا الله وحدہ لا شریک لہ و اشھدان محمد عبدہ و الرسول الله* *and where the same has been written in Al Quran Alazeem ?* *Eumalr lbs.*
Seize of Baghdad ended the knowledge seeking and intellectual part and turned all practices military. Namaz became disciplined army assembly, animal sacrifice became a must to desensitize Mujahideen to killing and all hadiths became military strategy doctrines about war, conquest and subjugation of conquered. First attacks were on budhdhists because mongols who attacked Baghdad later turned budhdhists. Then all axial age religions Jainism, charvahaka, aajivaka etc. which were basically the same as Greeks (atheistic & philosophical). After that Muslims turned to their cousins zoroasters and Vedic brahmins (who migrated to India following polytheism while zoroasters converted to monotheism in iran) With no regard to philosophy or culture differences between shaive, Vaishnav, Jain, budhdhist brahmins, aajivaka, etc. Everyone was labelled as a Hindu and kafir worthy of killing, conversion and enslavement by the religious army. This understanding prevails till today.
For this so-called liberal Pakistani discussing and glorifying history of science ostensibly by Muslims is academic exercise and if Hindus discuss and glorify their past scientific and technological achievements then it’s Hindu extremism.
Those people who drove the Baghdad Renaissance were Persian subjects . Persians had great tradition of learning before advent of Islam.
How many Muslims were there in India when Baghdad was destroyed, that is, when you were not converted, but before that you feel the history is yours.
There were Arab Muslim traders settled along the Malabar coast even during the life time of the Prophet.. Rest of the Muslims did not come from outside but local Hindus got converted.Before tge arrival ofMuslims, India had wi
Continue: India had witnessed many upheavals including greek, Kushan, Huna, and scythian invasions. The disapoearance of Buddhism from India was due to the hostilities Buddhists faced. So history is the record of past happenings.But it is humannature not to accept unsavoury facts. .
My point is why do Muslims in India consider the history of the Arabs as their history? Just as the history of Indian Christianity and European Christianity is different.
Therefore, the point that Indian Muslims suffered because Baghdad was destroyed there is wrong
It is such a strange phenomena where Muslims of India and Pakistan take pride in achievements of foreign Muslims. Even the Muslim rulers within India were all foreigners.
It is like a converted Christian in India and Pakistan taking pride in European civilizations and empires. It just does not make any sense whatsoever.
Finally koi toh akal se bol raha h
After watching what Pervez Hoodbhoy had to say, its sad to see that Islam can destroy the last vestige of honesty, integrity and decency in an educated person
Muhammad was a warlord. Islam is a political ideology like marxism. There is no spiruality and philosophical essence in Islam
We converted to Islam. For fear of our lives or money. But let us talk about people who were not racially related to us at all and call them "we" 😄
😂😂😂
Correction with no offense. Baghdad was destroyed by Halagu in 1258, not Genghis Khan who had been dead for 31 years, way before arrival of his grandson Halagu in Baghdad theater. By the way, Genghis Khan died in year 1227.
Why you are searching a logical man in Pakistan
@@tigerpandey7636 I am a Historian.
I don't understand this concept of "we Muslims". Which Muslims is he talking about when he says "Muslims"? Muslims have been spread in multiple kingdoms from 7th century. At the time when some Muslims were occupying foreign lands, other Muslims in other kingdoms were starving for food! When some Muslims were translating advanced Indian knowledge into their local languages in Bagdad and Persian, foreign invaders were producing destitute Muslim children in India. When Abdul Gafar Khan was fighting for India's freedom, orphan children of foreign invaders were fighting for an Islamic Caliphate, which is now being called as Pak! All kinds of Muslims existed always! Since Pakistanis are not clear on who their father is, they call every great father as their own. But, no father, including Afghanistan is willing to accept this orphan!
Very immature and superficial talks by Mr. Hood bhy. Not his calibre.
😂😂There is a session going on brainstorming about how madarsa will survive in the age of artificial intelligence and machine learning
Indian Moslesm or Invaders had no relations with civilisation of baghdad under abbasids. 😂😂😂
Those who came to india or converted here were mostly central asian turks mongols afghans etc.
Sirs,it is the institutions/Universities/Academies which propelled European science and technology.
The golden age of Arab religion with Abbasid caliphate at Baghdad had some individuals of different nationalities who did some seminal work and translations in science but not backed by institutions. Madarsas remained the backbone of Arab religion's religious education.
Pl. Ignore typos in my above post. The period of Islamic contributions to scientific knowledge was from 8th CE to 14th CE. The destruction of Islamic centres of learning by Mongol invasions in 13thCE all acrosd West Asia brought about the decline in Islamic knowledge traditions and due to the rise of orthodox clergy.
Great men of Mutazilites movement were Ex Muslim and atheists. Dr. Parvez Hoodbouy is also an Ex Muslim and atheist. Why does he yearn and lament for Muslim and not for humanity is beyond my comprehension. After all , Muslim will do the same to Dr sahab what Gazali did to mutazilites.
I thought Hoodbhoy wasn't an ex-Muslim but an (ex-)Parsi -- probably Auntie Google will clarify.
@@preetumgiani1585does hoodbouy believe in Allha or in the laws of physics? If he is an advocate of the latter, it is called Ex Muslim.
The question is not what Imam Ghazali said, but why everyone had to accept what he said This is the real question. Rather than talking about the religious complexities of Islam, you were free to blame everything on someone else
The guy, and others like him, have no clue about what Imam Ghazali said and what impact it had on Muslims. Imam Ghazali believed in occasionalism, and the belief in occasionalism does not negate human initiative and effort. It is clearly stated by scholars who explained occasionalism that it is the custom of God that He creates things in a certain way, and that is for our benefit also. Hence, for example, we need not worry about gravity every morning we wake up, as we can be reasonably confident that our feet will land in the ground and not fly upward when we walk. The guy mentions the Muslim custom of saying if God wills for everything, as if that entails doing nothing and ceasing all human initiative, which is just not true. If that were the case, Muslims would cease going to school for knowledge, stop going to doctors for treatment, stop drinking water for thirst, and basically stop doing anything in life: but surely that's not the case. For the record the scientific method was introduced by Ibn al Haytham, who believed in occasionalism himself.
If occasionalism were the cause behind decline in science among Muslims, then what stopped the Iranian Shias from producing scientific geniuses for hundreds of years despite their mutazila creed?
He does not talk of Contributions made by Islamic scholars of Cental Asia, Iraan, Iraq Ottoman Turkey, Spain, and N. Africa. The European Dark Ages were lighted upby the scientific contributions of Muslim scholars.true they got their initialimpetus from Greek, Indian and Christian sources. But madtook that knowledge forward by doing olreserch and investigation. The period of Islamic knowledge was fro 8Th Century CE to 1th CE.
Religions does not have any concern with Science.❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
He is religious scientist he is so old man should start praying for his heaven in his last days but so rediculised person he is destroying future of youths
All Religions specially three prominent revealed ones are BASED ON THE WORD "BELIEVE" .Which simply means "SUPERSTITION"that is why religions are "Manipulatable"or "Manoeable"to exploit their believers causing bloodshed hates.
Only Abrahamic religions don't . All Eastern religions budhdhism, Jainism, various sects of Hinduism are extremely scientific and atheistic. In fact astronomy is common to them plus native American Maya Inca and chinese.
Only Abrahamics like Christians and Muslims believe in a flat earth.
Mr PhD
Permanent head Damage
if we follow hood bhi...then why Nato and usa with very high technology....run away from Afghnistan.....with hand very weaker and less taliban...this gentelman studied physics..and ...speaking about islam even he dont ABC of islam....
اقبال کچھ بھی نہیں تھا۔ اسے مصنوعی زبردستی بنایا گیا ھے
لو۔۔۔ پرشادوں کو اقبال کیسے سمجھ ا سکتا ہے۔
The anchor is really a dull mind.
Kya Aga khani Muslim Hain?
پرویز ھود بھائ خود آغاخانی ہے۔
Professor sab darhi ke bare mai batayie plz
🌀🌍🔭🔬
*professor*
👉 *would you please explain, the first & fore most commandment of Allha (SWT) after Qalmatu alast ash Had*
☝ *اشھدان لا الہ الا الله وحدہ لا شریک لہ و اشھدان محمد عبدہ و الرسول الله*
*and where the same has been written in Al Quran Alazeem ?*
*Eumalr lbs.*
Sir u are legend great
Ics Islam aur Pakistan dushman joker ko TV per kuun lata hai, kyun lata ha ?
Like you dr sahib, u r my hero
Seize of Baghdad ended the knowledge seeking and intellectual part and turned all practices military. Namaz became disciplined army assembly, animal sacrifice became a must to desensitize Mujahideen to killing and all hadiths became military strategy doctrines about war, conquest and subjugation of conquered.
First attacks were on budhdhists because mongols who attacked Baghdad later turned budhdhists. Then all axial age religions Jainism, charvahaka, aajivaka etc. which were basically the same as Greeks (atheistic & philosophical). After that Muslims turned to their cousins zoroasters and Vedic brahmins (who migrated to India following polytheism while zoroasters converted to monotheism in iran)
With no regard to philosophy or culture differences between shaive, Vaishnav, Jain, budhdhist brahmins, aajivaka, etc. Everyone was labelled as a Hindu and kafir worthy of killing, conversion and enslavement by the religious army. This understanding prevails till today.
For this so-called liberal Pakistani discussing and glorifying history of science ostensibly by Muslims is academic exercise and if Hindus discuss and glorify their past scientific and technological achievements then it’s Hindu extremism.
Raise and fall ke beech me 8cr mara, duniya me 25cr mara ,destruction is another facet
Proof ,any original book other than vague descriptions?