As always Prof. Hoodbhoy comes up with sharp rational arguments. Thanks for this enlightening debate and some time in India I doubt if we can have such debates on our religious exuberance. More fundamental question: is this book available in India either paper version or Kindle?
Nuclear physicist talks about history..... historian talks on economy..... economists talks about geopolitics..... politician talks on religion... CLASSIC PAKISTANI.
Pakistanis are the most tolerant people in the world. Usually I hear Hindu baniya, Hindu Kaffir, Ghazwa-e-hind, lal qile par jhanda phrases on Pakistani discussions. These are all phrases of love and tolerance. Also see how Pakistanis have treated Hindus, bengalis, Shias, Balochs, Pashtuns, Sikhs, Parsis, Jews, Christians, Ahmadis, and now Afghans. No one will call Pakistanis intolerant.
The Islamic Conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precarious thing, whose delicate complex of order and liberty, culture and peace may at any time be overthrown by barbarians invading from without or multiplying within. - By Will Durant an American writer, historian, and philosopher.
Good but this so called Pakistani muslims will never agree!! Look how easily he tried to negate India/Hindus culture!! Falsehood is in Pakistani BLOOD!!!
The partition of India is still incomplete. There are still millions of Muslims in India who have Pakistani mindset. They should go to Pakistan or Bangladesh.
Sir Syed Ahmed Khan was an Islamist, a Ashraf Islamist, His only objective was to protect the leftover Muslim Elite remained with appropriated Landbanks over the generations after downfall of Mughal Empire. He was very clear about the distinction between Foreign Elite and Domestic Converted Pasmanda Muslims. The Hatred with this land the native Hindu Culture is Permanent
@@billbohat8646 we study Pakistan to understand what not to do and what a failed society looks like. For actual solutions we study US, china, Vietnam, Taiwan, South Korea. And this Maulana Hoodbhoy really doesn't know about Sushruta does he? He was all praise for ancient Chinese inventions the other day at the Black Hole while restricting ancient Indian achievements only to mathematics - not realizing that such things could not arise except in the context of an overall complex society. These guys will die happy that India is going down the 'same path as them' while ignoring all the signs that there are important differences. All signs point to the fact that Indian youth today knows far more 'real' history than they did a decade ago. "Indians don't have interethnic marriages" - kis dunia main rehte hain yeh buddhe ?
@@AKumar-co7oe Guy Takes lesson from Romila Thapar and Likes, But seems to have forgot to ask her abt Shusruta as Even the Loony leftists accept Sushruta as a Surgeon and all the World doctors too . Also lets say Indians brag that they wer so good at science and all, so whats the problem, atleast we r taking pride over something constructive and it motivates us to do Science again. Whereas This Dudes country ppl Take pride on Mythologies like Mo had ridden a Flaying donkey with women Face to jannah and Met allah ... Bla Bla. THey also take pride in Abdali , Ghori and all.
Dr. Pervez Hoodbhoy software updated to Maulana Haji Hoodbhoy!!! Just reading from other authors and referring them in your book to mention about India's history without doing an in-person fact checking shows the level of hate this guy has towards Hindus and India!!!
If Pakistan claim Kashmir because it's a Muslim majority state. Then on same merit India should claim whole Subcontinent because Hindus are in Majority 😂😂😂😂
there was a debate in un over jk inwhich atal bhiari ji took participate along with the then fm khurshid where india put the proposition to Pakistan if u want to claim jk on the basis of religion then r u willing to take 22 million scums aswell 😂😂
@@MohammedAhmed-ws3ho you just proved my point ☝️ Plus we are indigenous people, you draw your ancestry from Arabic descend, Christian draw there origin from Jerusalem and Jesus Christ was a Jew.
For establishing peace in your country and defeating Islam one has to clean its backyard For Israel it's Palestine For Europe it's North Africa For India It's Pakistan For China it's Xinjiang For Greece it's Turkey For Armenia it's Azerbaijan
Our minorities are billionaires and happily enjoying in India except second biggest majority all though a minority of them who wants to grow and not refrain itself in ghettos are also developed and progressing.
He also takes lot of Pride on Islamic Golden age of Abbasids which was in reality nothing but he collected all the Knowledge generated in India China and Europe and tried to mix them and rewritten in Arabic. We have lot of evidences of Them copying indian Ancient sanskrit text and Even stories Like Panchtantra were re written in arabic and called as Kalīla wa Dimna and becam lot of famos in arabic world later reached europe too. So was Indian Decimal based Number system. But biggest Problem is, THe ppl who came to India to spread islam etc had no links with abbasid what so ever . they were Simple barbarians from central asia.
@@avinash7335exactly I am from Kerala india ke 14 billionaires Kerala se ata hein usmein 8 log toh minority ka he Christian and muslims and sabse bada wealth ek muslim ke pass he MA Yusuf Ali owner of Lulu group theses are haters of this this land rahne do inko aise
How will you implement it? Force hindu to have more kids? Force minorities to have no kids How are you going to do that? Idiot doesn't even know hindu is not the name of religion Religion name in sanatan dharam And india doesn't belongs to sanatani As much its belongs to bhudhism jainism sikhism bharat is their country they are indic religion born in this great nation
Deng Xiaoping said - I don't care if the cat is black or white, so long as it catches mice... Pakistanis 👆 say - we don't care if the cat is black or white, so long as it...reads the Quraan! 👍😁
1) Sir muslim population have rose by 43% from 9% to 14% in independent india how are they in danger 2) India waft board is 3rd largest property holder in india 3) India have more mosques then pakistan 4) India being a secular country still have muslim personal law still minorities are in danger Lastly in Pakistan hindu population declined from 10% to 2% you killed and forcefully converted lacks of Hindus destroyed almost all the temples in Pakistan you don’t have any moral high ground to lecture us
People are same but religion change,Hinduism is not race but religion. Question is where native people gone who used to live here before Hindu religion? Thats answer of your question.
@@liaquatarain5338 we are the native people by DNA 🧬 , Linguistic, Culturally, Civilization uninterrupted History of last 20,000 years, We Are Bharatvarsh and soon will merge to become Akhand Bharat
@@liaquatarain5338 It's an evolved continuity, you can keep cooking up your useless theories as much as you want. Nobody brought Hinduism as a readymade package like Islam. It is not a book-based religion and actually a culture that evolved over millennia. Before Islam the whole of Central Asia and Afghanistan was Buddhist and Inshallah same will happen again.
Please stop Bakwaas about Narendra Modi...He is a statesman, and governs well and deals with Nuisance as well...If Muslims do not know how to behave in a society, expect any good leader to be tough...That does not mean Hate as you guys so freely think..He is more secular than any Muslim in the subcontinent...I expected better from Prof hoodbhoy, who sadly is becoming a a Hinduphobe himself.
@@sukhan2225 I tell you, the real Haha worth is..when Israel is thrashing the so called warrior Muslims single handedly, when in 67, six Arabic Moslem countries were beaten by a tiny Israel, and today Moslems are crying for peace after creating nuisance once again..Is it worth 'hahaha' sentiment ?
@garamiglm2026 The same Islamophobic mind, whatever the Muslims get, let them get it, if they could improve in future, no worries but all this doesn't make modi a statesman. 😜
@@sukhan2225 Let Arabs or anyone in the Muslim world let Hindus live with them, then we will talk who is a statesman or secular...Muslims must learn to stop complaining and whining like children against Modi, even when they live freely in a country they do not consider their own, Modi is secular and who knows how to deal with people who do not know how to behave in a society
Sir: can you deny the fact Nalanda University with 90,000 Books burned by Muslims Bakhityar Khilji. Taxila and Alexandra Library was burned by Muslims...
The level of education and enlightenment of the general mass of Pakistan is expressed at time stamp 1:38:15 of this podcast. Only a few people like Dr. Hoodbhoy can make no change to this abysmally low, backward and rotten society and nation. 😢
Only issue remaining between India-Pakistan is unfinished Agenda of partition, in which minorities of both countries should be transferred to their rightful ideological countries. So that long term peace can be achieved between two nuclear armed Nations
You and your north indian bihari/up family can easily go to pakistan as the bimaru states are taking India downwards, Bihar, UP, MP should have gone to pakistan , and indias per capita , GDP and HDI could have been much better
Have some common sense and be practical Minorities of both countries cannot be transferred its impossible to move 20-30 crore people Stop living in fools paradise
@@northeastchronicles9311lol UP bihar is what india is. Its Core of Indian state. Its the area whose history us considered golden period of Indian history be it ancient or medieval era. Even mughal and Delhi sultanate had kept this area of royalty. Yes today UP bihar r backward than other states , but it won't last much . Its just 70 years since freedom. With teh rise of Indian civilisation again these areas will rise faster tha the rest. UP is already galloping fast. Its not the matter of , will UP bihar rise. Its matter of when . And it seems time has come. Anyway if not the state UP bihar than the people of these states already have migrated to regions favored geographically and histoically for modern day economy and playing good role there. U may bark on UP bihar and all but everyone knows u can't do sht. They r core of Indian state and civilisation
Islam is seen as a problem in western and European countries . A person of the calibre of Dr . Pervez Hoodboy should discuss on the problems of Islam which have their origin in their so called holy book . These intellectuals of Pakistan will do well discuss about the problems of Muslims having their origin in their religion .
There is nothing wrong in Break-up of Pakistan into 5 pieces, Bangladesh me bhi tarrakki Pakistan se alag ho kar hi ki thi, Agar Aaj Balochistan Pakistan se alag ho jaye toh Apne dam par tarakki kar sakta hai, Sindh Alag ho jaye toh Karachi bhi tarraki apne Dam par kar sakta hai. Azaad Kashmir Hindustan ko de diya jaye toh wahan bhi tarakki ho sakti hai, Par Punjab ki hukumat ke rehte na Bangladesh tarakki kar paya tha, aur na Pakistan kabhi tarrakki kar payega. Thats why Pakistani people should divide Pakistan for their own peace and for the peace of South Asia and whole world
Ram Mandir is Hindus Latest Demand, next is UCC, Wakf Board Act, Free Temples and more India grows More of Indian Subcontinent Will fall into Hindu Fold. This Train which Started in 2014 is not going to stop before Akhand Hindu Bhartiya Rastra
In 1947 Pakistan had 20.5% Sikhs and Hindus. Today less than 1% are Sikhs and Hindus. India had less than 10% Muslims. Now India has almost 15% Muslims. This increase is due to very hight birth rate of Muslims and influx of Muslim refugees from Bangladesh and Myanmar. Pakistan should steps to Invite Indian Muslims to come and settle in Pakistan. Pakistan should welcome all Muslims of India and let them settle in Pakistan.
1:27:00 says India can’t take POK, Pakistan is temporary country, we will just wait another 30 years so that Pakistan will break itself. Hoodboy mentions that balochis were under occupation, another mentions KPK has insurgents, gilgit is already revolting. Pakistan Punjab will just break by itself no need nukes mr hoodboy, it’s just matter of time POK will merge back to India.
Sadly 😞 No one in Pakistan understand that main reason of conflict between India and Pakistan is their Islamic ideology. Why Pakistani intellectuals don't speak the truth Dispute between India and Pakistan is not so simple until you, go back to understand fundamental Differences between Hindus Sanatan Dharma and Muslims Islamic ideology, it's a Clash between Two Civilization, not of two nation or International Boundary 1000 year old battle between A Civilization and Barbarism
If they blame the Quran for all their ills, it would be blasphemy under Pak laws and punishment is being beaten to death by ordinary Paks, no need for law enforcement. It is just simple fear for own life.🤣🤣🤣
Dear Altaf Hussain, Dr. Hoodbhoy doesn't use any of social media. He responds to emails and calls. You can contact "Black Hole" TH-cam channel, Dr. Hoodbhoy is the owner/founder of Blackhole, they will guide you properly.
Do not believe what they tell you, because there is only one Islam, what Prophet Muhammad Said and what Prophet Muhammad Did in his life. There is no other version of Islam, Every thing else is to deceive you.
9:04 😂 what is that's 😂 Two nations theory is happening because of hindu want to learn from University and school. And muslim don't want that's why 😂 bhi ye kesa logic hai. Actually before British rule India 🇮🇳 is not United. They are many rules in India when British come to India 🇮🇳 they are many rulers like nizam. Ahmad ali . Mugal and Turkish rules by defornt reason the two nations theory is happening because muslim want to pawer in politics but Gandhi and nehru is not acsept it that's why jina want to separate state .
es seminar main aqalmand ke liye kafi kuch hy.... liken soch na rakhne walo k liye kuch nahi.. kyu ke unho ne apna dimagh tu use karna nahi bas wohi kuch repeat karna hy jo unhe seekhaya geya hy..khud se unho ne tahqeeq nahi karni.. appreciate your research Dr. hoodbhoy and Others.
The Hindutva perspective Prof. Hoodbhoy mentions is probably the loudest one in India but it’s not the majority opinion. Most Hindus believe that there should be 1) a secular uniform civil code for every citizen irrespective of religion and consequently 2) there should be total separation of religion and state, and 3) there should be total freedom to practice religion as long as it is not against the uniform civil code.
The way the Pakistani treated their minorities , the way they encoded their history, the way they glorified their Inveders and they justified their hate towards India , compelled secular, liberal and democratic indians to change their philosophy .
So does Dr Hoodbhoy disclaim the Ashoka Dynasty ( 250 BCE)and or the Gupta Dynasty ( 450 CE)which was surely before Bin Qasim invades Sindh (712 CE) …. By the maps most of North East frontier were either part of the Gupta or Ashoka dynasty … much before Bin Qasim arrived in the Sub continent .. or for that matter how does he he justify the fact that an invader an Anglo Saxon, is “Sikander-a-Azam” while the ruler at that time “Porus” who defended the homeland is never even acknowledged and lastly what about the Mohenjadaro heritage which was much before …. almost 5000 years back
Pak identity 1. People who live within the boundaries of the territorial land. Pak origin 1. Converted Indian hindus. If you are of Arab or Turk or any other origin, you have no claim on the land carved out of India. How you converted 1. Make up a story because the recorded history is horrifying and gruesome. Future 1. Whatever you make out of it.
अगर आप "पुरुष और पुरुषत्व" समझ सकते हैं तो "हिंदू और हिंदुत्व" भी समझ जायेंगे। बिना पुरुषत्व के पुरुष होने का कोई मतलब नहीं है वैसे ही हिंदुत्व रहित हिंदू नही हो सकता।
Huge respect to all da participants... But i just have 1 question.. Who will bring the change?? Debates and books r good but when we will enter the pratical world (steps towards the change)
Ideology of Palistan was a separate Country for Muslims , and a Separate Country of Hidu-Mushrikeen; with true implementation of complete "Quranic-System" i.e. "ISLAM" that actually means an "Islamic-Democratic-State" must be totally governed, based on the vision : - "Pakistan ka mutlab kia ? La ilaha illallah !!!"
Absolutely true, India is more diversified than Pakistan. But it is united as rightly spoken by one of the speaker. Democracy & Federal Govt with a lot of freedom to each state.....
They are no identify of Pakistan. The only identity they claim mugal invader and Islam . And they have no identity after mugal and Islam. Pakistan never tak about before mugal history because they know they don't have identity before mugal.
Topic thi Pakistani ki identity but talk horehihe India ki bareme 😂😂😂😂 Tum mantenehihe ki tum pehele Indian the to India ke bareme kyu batt horehihe. Full isi propaganda video against India 🖕😡🖕😡
Sir you openly cant critic Pakistan and Islam but in India we can openly critic India and other religion without fear, so definitely Pakistan need to get secular and remove Islam from state religion
Everyone in Pakistan should first become Pakistani first. Concentrate on primary education & secondary education. Teach proper history to all students. Establish civilian supremacy. Concentrate on economic growth...... Forget fighting with India...... In 10 years everything will fall in line slowly.....
When in minority they become secular and when in majority, they become islamist. Doc, you do not even have a moral eight when you created pakistan on religious line. It makes me mad when u talk about ratiionalty in your discussion. Maybe uneed to go on sabatical
How far its true that Zinna who had Pakistan for Muslims because they cant live with Hindus, created bloody partition CAN NEVER BE CALLED A SECULAR INDIVIDUAL !!??
As always Prof. Hoodbhoy comes up with sharp rational arguments. Thanks for this enlightening debate and some time in India I doubt if we can have such debates on our religious exuberance. More fundamental question: is this book available in India either paper version or Kindle?
Thanks for the feedback Dear. Stay tuned @PIDEOfficial
This Book is available at amazon & routledge
yes. on Amazon, in two formats - paperback and hard cover. However the price is discouraging.
Are yoy going to really purchase it - Mr. Pakistan with Indian Name?
Any Muslim who has read Quran ( badmash) . He knows that prophet was a looter . So are you his follower .
You should read great historian R C Majumdar's book, then you will know how big a hypocrite this Parvez Hodhbhoy is !
Nuclear physicist talks about history..... historian talks on economy..... economists talks about geopolitics..... politician talks on religion... CLASSIC PAKISTANI.
Indian subcontinent ke paxtani converts are rare breed yeh toh brief kar Raha hein 😂😂
Engineer on religion 😂
And Army makes bread and butter!
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Pakistanis are the most tolerant people in the world.
Usually I hear Hindu baniya, Hindu Kaffir, Ghazwa-e-hind, lal qile par jhanda phrases on Pakistani discussions. These are all phrases of love and tolerance.
Also see how Pakistanis have treated Hindus, bengalis, Shias, Balochs, Pashtuns, Sikhs, Parsis, Jews, Christians, Ahmadis, and now Afghans. No one will call Pakistanis intolerant.
@@manojchowdhary4208
दूनियाँ का sharif ही सब दुनियाँ से लड़ झगड़ और सबक़ sikh और सबक़ सिखान सकता है ।
PERVAIZ HATES 3 WORDS
ISLAM
IDEA OF PAKISTAN
MOHAMMED ALI JINAH
NO WONDER WHY MOST OF HIS FOLLOWERS ARE INDIANS
The Islamic Conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precarious thing, whose delicate complex of order and liberty, culture and peace may at any time be overthrown by barbarians invading from without or multiplying within.
- By Will Durant an American writer, historian, and philosopher.
Good but this so called Pakistani muslims will never agree!! Look how easily he tried to negate India/Hindus culture!! Falsehood is in Pakistani BLOOD!!!
If Dogs have a Holy Book which says its their holy duty to Bite every one who is not a Dog, Then I will be scared of every dog in the World 🐕
Most brief and complete comment, I've seen ever 👏👏👏👌👌👌👌👌
@@MaradonaVsPele ✌️
@@pawanbadhla424 🤣🤪👍😜😹
Thats the main thing and when you say " i am scared of them",they will play a dog victim card and say you guys are dogophobic 😂
Dogophobia.
The partition of India is still incomplete.
There are still millions of Muslims in India who have Pakistani mindset. They should go to Pakistan or Bangladesh.
they r worst than Pakistan 😢
and Aryaan tunni hindu should get out of Hindustan
Bhakt spotted
They stayed behind to complete Gazwa -E- Hind. Natural allies of Pakistanis.
You want India only for Hindus?? This is your secularism? You are an extremist bro. Try to be normal
Sir Syed Ahmed Khan was an Islamist, a Ashraf Islamist,
His only objective was to protect the leftover Muslim Elite remained with appropriated Landbanks over the generations after downfall of Mughal Empire.
He was very clear about the distinction between Foreign Elite and Domestic Converted Pasmanda Muslims.
The Hatred with this land the native Hindu Culture is Permanent
Hindus who promote Hindu Muslim Unity, should first ensure Shia-Sunni Unity 😂😂😂
Sir you are write.
Dr Hoodbhoy should replace his Dr to Maulana Pervez Hoodbhoy 😂
You’re citizens of 5th biggest economy but mind is stuck with Pakistan think bigger
@@billbohat8646 we study Pakistan to understand what not to do and what a failed society looks like.
For actual solutions we study US, china, Vietnam, Taiwan, South Korea.
And this Maulana Hoodbhoy really doesn't know about Sushruta does he? He was all praise for ancient Chinese inventions the other day at the Black Hole while restricting ancient Indian achievements only to mathematics - not realizing that such things could not arise except in the context of an overall complex society.
These guys will die happy that India is going down the 'same path as them' while ignoring all the signs that there are important differences. All signs point to the fact that Indian youth today knows far more 'real' history than they did a decade ago.
"Indians don't have interethnic marriages" - kis dunia main rehte hain yeh buddhe ?
@@billbohat8646 Your so called Dr. or Maulana Pervez Hoodbhoy mind is stuck with India.
@@AKumar-co7oe Guy Takes lesson from Romila Thapar and Likes, But seems to have forgot to ask her abt Shusruta as Even the Loony leftists accept Sushruta as a Surgeon and all the World doctors too .
Also lets say Indians brag that they wer so good at science and all, so whats the problem, atleast we r taking pride over something constructive and it motivates us to do Science again. Whereas This Dudes country ppl Take pride on Mythologies like Mo had ridden a Flaying donkey with women Face to jannah and Met allah ... Bla Bla. THey also take pride in Abdali , Ghori and all.
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Dr. Pervez Hoodbhoy software updated to Maulana Haji Hoodbhoy!!! Just reading from other authors and referring them in your book to mention about India's history without doing an in-person fact checking shows the level of hate this guy has towards Hindus and India!!!
Right 👍❤
Abhishek Mishra exposed him on Ribaha channel and Maulana got very irritated
spot on
If Pakistan claim Kashmir because it's a Muslim majority state.
Then on same merit India should claim whole Subcontinent because Hindus are in Majority
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there was a debate in un over jk inwhich atal bhiari ji took participate along with the then fm khurshid where india put the proposition to Pakistan if u want to claim jk on the basis of religion then r u willing to take 22 million scums aswell 😂😂
If@karolbagh3793 is correct then Christians on the basis of population majority should claim whole world
@@MohammedAhmed-ws3ho you just proved my point ☝️
Plus we are indigenous people, you draw your ancestry from Arabic descend,
Christian draw there origin from Jerusalem and Jesus Christ was a Jew.
@@karolbagh3793 it doesn’t mean I have agreed with what you have said
@@karolbagh3793 we draw our ancestry from Adam
For establishing peace in your country and defeating Islam one has to clean its backyard
For Israel it's Palestine
For Europe it's North Africa
For India It's Pakistan
For China it's Xinjiang
For Greece it's Turkey
For Armenia it's Azerbaijan
Looks like maulana pervez hoodboy frozen in 1947. Don't lecture India, we know how to manage our people, minority. Talk about your minority, people.
Our minorities are billionaires and happily enjoying in India except second biggest majority all though a minority of them who wants to grow and not refrain itself in ghettos are also developed and progressing.
He also takes lot of Pride on Islamic Golden age of Abbasids which was in reality nothing but he collected all the Knowledge generated in India China and Europe and tried to mix them and rewritten in Arabic. We have lot of evidences of Them copying indian Ancient sanskrit text and Even stories Like Panchtantra were re written in arabic and called as Kalīla wa Dimna and becam lot of famos in arabic world later reached europe too. So was Indian Decimal based Number system.
But biggest Problem is, THe ppl who came to India to spread islam etc had no links with abbasid what so ever . they were Simple barbarians from central asia.
@@avinash7335exactly I am from Kerala india ke 14 billionaires Kerala se ata hein usmein 8 log toh minority ka he Christian and muslims and sabse bada wealth ek muslim ke pass he MA Yusuf Ali owner of Lulu group theses are haters of this this land rahne do inko aise
Very well said!
Truth cannot be hidden. He is only speaking the truth about India..
the sun of rationality has set upon this newly baptizsd maulana hoodbhoy,, RIP ex-physicist dr hoodbhoy.
India should have a Policy called Project 95
In which HINDU demography should be improved to 95% and minority to 5%
Yessssssss...
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How will you implement it?
Force hindu to have more kids?
Force minorities to have no kids
How are you going to do that?
Idiot doesn't even know hindu is not the name of religion
Religion name in sanatan dharam
And india doesn't belongs to sanatani
As much its belongs to bhudhism jainism sikhism bharat is their country they are indic religion born in this great nation
Only way to save this great civilisation and Land. The day Moslems in india reached 33% consider it a gone case.
@@GuzzarAwanHindu Rashtra & Ghar Vapsi ✅✅👍✌️🙏
@@karolbagh3793 how many ghar wapsi have you done???
I am so happy that Pakistan has these kind of intellectual.
Thankyou brahmins for destroying our society in India.
Parvez hoodboy saying " apna mazhub dusre pe naa thope " 😂😂. Now he come to know what non Muslims feel😂
भूखे मरने की नौबत आ गई इसीलिए वरना मोदी को फासिस्ट बताते हैं।
Deng Xiaoping said - I don't care if the cat is black or white, so long as it catches mice...
Pakistanis 👆 say - we don't care if the cat is black or white, so long as it...reads the Quraan! 👍😁
Hey we git a country through it by breaking your country. So it paid off.
@@DWAGON1818 and India broke Pak BACK to form Bangladesh (and MORE to come, Insh'Allah!!) because weirdos 👆spell the word "got" as "git" 😀😁
Reading Quran?.....Paxtan has 50% literacy......Maybe you meant reciting Kalma.......
1) Sir muslim population have rose by 43% from 9% to 14% in independent india how are they in danger
2) India waft board is 3rd largest property holder in india
3) India have more mosques then pakistan
4) India being a secular country still have muslim personal law still minorities are in danger
Lastly in Pakistan hindu population declined from 10% to 2% you killed and forcefully converted lacks of Hindus destroyed almost all the temples in Pakistan you don’t have any moral high ground to lecture us
Logic does not work west of Wagah border.
They are not happy with muslim Pakistan now they want to make muslim India.
Victimisation is core of Islam
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Sir ?
Indan Subcontinent was 99.99% Hindu before 1091 A.D.
Which now is below 60% so where did all Hindu vanished.
People are same but religion change,Hinduism is not race but religion.
Question is where native people gone who used to live here before Hindu religion? Thats answer of your question.
@@liaquatarain5338 we are the native people by DNA 🧬 , Linguistic, Culturally, Civilization uninterrupted History of last 20,000 years, We Are Bharatvarsh and soon will merge to become Akhand Bharat
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It's an evolved continuity, you can keep cooking up your useless theories as much as you want.
Nobody brought Hinduism as a readymade package like Islam. It is not a book-based religion and actually a culture that evolved over millennia.
Before Islam the whole of Central Asia and Afghanistan was Buddhist and Inshallah same will happen again.
Please stop Bakwaas about Narendra Modi...He is a statesman, and governs well and deals with Nuisance as well...If Muslims do not know how to behave in a society, expect any good leader to be tough...That does not mean Hate as you guys so freely think..He is more secular than any Muslim in the subcontinent...I expected better from Prof hoodbhoy, who sadly is becoming a a Hinduphobe himself.
Hahaha 😂😂 you may get more scholars like him, a real joker !
@@sukhan2225 I tell you, the real Haha worth is..when Israel is thrashing the so called warrior Muslims single handedly, when in 67, six Arabic Moslem countries were beaten by a tiny Israel, and today Moslems are crying for peace after creating nuisance once again..Is it worth 'hahaha' sentiment ?
@garamiglm2026 The same Islamophobic mind, whatever the Muslims get, let them get it, if they could improve in future, no worries but all this doesn't make modi a statesman. 😜
@@sukhan2225 Let Arabs or anyone in the Muslim world let Hindus live with them, then we will talk who is a statesman or secular...Muslims must learn to stop complaining and whining like children against Modi, even when they live freely in a country they do not consider their own, Modi is secular and who knows how to deal with people who do not know how to behave in a society
Excellent point. This so called professor is a hard core mulla.
Sir: can you deny the fact Nalanda University with 90,000 Books burned by Muslims Bakhityar Khilji. Taxila and Alexandra Library was burned by Muslims...
Yes, he will deny it. And will mock it as well. A Muslim is always an hypocr….
@@dollartreeshark6786 true, at least he should not say these Hindus etc.. He can say our ancestors
Taxila was burnt by huns not Muslims
I feel for pakistani youth if this is the level of public intellectuality of these people and understanding of this region history.
Lage raho aise hi
The level of education and enlightenment of the general mass of Pakistan is expressed at time stamp 1:38:15 of this podcast. Only a few people like Dr. Hoodbhoy can make no change to this abysmally low, backward and rotten society and nation. 😢
Only issue remaining between India-Pakistan is unfinished Agenda of partition, in which minorities of both countries should be transferred to their rightful ideological countries.
So that long term peace can be achieved between two nuclear armed Nations
You and your north indian bihari/up family can easily go to pakistan as the bimaru states are taking India downwards, Bihar, UP, MP should have gone to pakistan , and indias per capita , GDP and HDI could have been much better
Have some common sense and be practical
Minorities of both countries cannot be transferred its impossible to move 20-30 crore people
Stop living in fools paradise
@@northeastchronicles9311lol UP bihar is what india is. Its Core of Indian state. Its the area whose history us considered golden period of Indian history be it ancient or medieval era.
Even mughal and Delhi sultanate had kept this area of royalty.
Yes today UP bihar r backward than other states , but it won't last much . Its just 70 years since freedom. With teh rise of Indian civilisation again these areas will rise faster tha the rest. UP is already galloping fast. Its not the matter of , will UP bihar rise. Its matter of when . And it seems time has come.
Anyway if not the state UP bihar than the people of these states already have migrated to regions favored geographically and histoically for modern day economy and playing good role there.
U may bark on UP bihar and all but everyone knows u can't do sht. They r core of Indian state and civilisation
Only VICTIM CARD 😂😂😂😂
Islam is seen as a problem in western and European countries . A person of the calibre of Dr . Pervez Hoodboy should discuss on the problems of Islam which have their origin in their so called holy book . These intellectuals of Pakistan will do well discuss about the problems of Muslims having their origin in their religion .
There is nothing wrong in Break-up of Pakistan into 5 pieces, Bangladesh me bhi tarrakki Pakistan se alag ho kar hi ki thi,
Agar Aaj Balochistan Pakistan se alag ho jaye toh Apne dam par tarakki kar sakta hai, Sindh Alag ho jaye toh Karachi bhi tarraki apne Dam par kar sakta hai.
Azaad Kashmir Hindustan ko de diya jaye toh wahan bhi tarakki ho sakti hai,
Par Punjab ki hukumat ke rehte na Bangladesh tarakki kar paya tha, aur na Pakistan kabhi tarrakki kar payega.
Thats why Pakistani people should divide Pakistan for their own peace and for the peace of South Asia and whole world
Dr. Hoodbhoy has a point but again coloured from Muslim point of view.
Ram Mandir is Hindus Latest Demand, next is UCC, Wakf Board Act, Free Temples and more India grows More of Indian Subcontinent Will fall into Hindu Fold.
This Train which Started in 2014 is not going to stop before Akhand Hindu Bhartiya Rastra
12:53 Ikbal was Lal Topi of 18th century
Why does Hoodboy not talk about the partition of Bengal in 1905?
I had lot respect for Mr. Hoodboy for his temperament. Some of his statments are radical. He said like a typical Pakistani.
India does not have to worry as long as these "so-called" educated in Pakistan are so deeply entrenched in Islam than the Maulanas themslelves!!!
Who read books in Pakistan 😅😂😂
We read beef recipes book
@@8903hadeedbahan se bacche paida kaise karte hai, ye bhi read Kiya hai ki nahi.
@@8903hadeed good for you just eat beef ❤ all your life and beg
@@8903hadeed We also read books on pork recipes. 🤣
@@harshittiwari7424 both nations are interested only in meat eating we eat beef you eat pork along with gaon muttar
Ahh the tension in the end the top Pakistani intellectuals felt the shiver in their spine for being misconstrued of being blasphemous 😂😂
In 1947 Pakistan had 20.5% Sikhs and Hindus. Today less than 1% are Sikhs and Hindus.
India had less than 10% Muslims. Now India has almost 15% Muslims. This increase is due to very hight birth rate of Muslims and influx of Muslim refugees from Bangladesh and Myanmar.
Pakistan should steps to Invite Indian Muslims to come and settle in Pakistan. Pakistan should welcome all Muslims of India and let them settle in Pakistan.
Knowingly OR Unknowingly Muslims of Pakistan Bangladesh and India are pushing Hindus for Akhand Bharat and Hindu Rashtra 😂😂😂
😂😂😂 It seems they want it more desperately than Indians and hindu
Having dream will not bring reality my boy😂😂
Why the faces of women who asked questions were not shown on the screen?
Origin-Not sure/Confused
Identity- Beggar's.
Future-Depends on the Amount of Funds collected through Shameless Begging.
No one cares about the views of gau mutra drinkers.
@user-od9co6yv3m better than connecting with gau mutra drinkers.
@user-od9co6yv3m😂😂😂😂😂
Dr. Pervaiz is not only a scientist but also a public intellectual. His services are commendable.
1:27:00 says India can’t take POK, Pakistan is temporary country, we will just wait another 30 years so that Pakistan will break itself.
Hoodboy mentions that balochis were under occupation, another mentions KPK has insurgents, gilgit is already revolting.
Pakistan Punjab will just break by itself no need nukes mr hoodboy, it’s just matter of time POK will merge back to India.
Sadly 😞 No one in Pakistan understand that main reason of conflict between India and Pakistan is their Islamic ideology.
Why Pakistani intellectuals don't speak the truth
Dispute between India and Pakistan is not so simple until you, go back to understand fundamental Differences between Hindus Sanatan Dharma and Muslims Islamic ideology, it's a Clash between Two Civilization, not of two nation or International Boundary
1000 year old battle between A Civilization and Barbarism
If they blame the Quran for all their ills, it would be blasphemy under Pak laws and punishment is being beaten to death by ordinary Paks, no need for law enforcement. It is just simple fear for own life.🤣🤣🤣
No one have dare to speak against pak army propaganda
TRUTH in Muslims & Pakistanis? What you are expecting? Its like wanting 1 billion% lottery!! Falsehood and twisting facts is in muslim BLOOD!!
Mout k dr sy
Wonderfull discussion from Multan . I learned so much this speech . I love perveez hoodbhoy
Is it my imagination or.... I ALWAYS seem to hear far MORE abt "Hindutva" from Pakistanis 👆 than Indians 😁😁 Why??
How do I visit Dr.Hood Bhai
Dear Altaf Hussain, Dr. Hoodbhoy doesn't use any of social media. He responds to emails and calls.
You can contact "Black Hole" TH-cam channel, Dr. Hoodbhoy is the owner/founder of Blackhole, they will guide you properly.
Kashmir is dominated by three foreign intervention popularly known as ATM (Afghan, Türk, Mangol)
Quality discussion. Indepth analysis .Appreciated from India.
This man shouldn't forget the fact that his ancestors goes by the name of ram lal
Really good show. I think people who comments negatively pls try to learn or read some books then say anything.
Enlightened Talks.....Thanks prof Hoodboy ,Zahid Hussain and PIDE...
Do not believe what they tell you, because there is only one Islam, what Prophet Muhammad Said and what Prophet Muhammad Did in his life.
There is no other version of Islam, Every thing else is to deceive you.
You mean, rape, genocides, paedophilia, forceful conversions, sex slavery, orgies, loot, torture and lies.
9:04 😂 what is that's 😂
Two nations theory is happening because of hindu want to learn from University and school. And muslim don't want that's why 😂 bhi ye kesa logic hai.
Actually before British rule India 🇮🇳 is not United. They are many rules in India when British come to India 🇮🇳 they are many rulers like nizam. Ahmad ali . Mugal and Turkish rules by defornt reason the two nations theory is happening because muslim want to pawer in politics but Gandhi and nehru is not acsept it that's why jina want to separate state .
10:10 two nation theory was debunked in dhaka in 1971.
I call it Three Nation Theory
Thank you brahmins for destroying our society in India.
سب سے زیادہ نقصان ہم ہندوستانی مسلمانوں کا ہوا،،، مگر جب پاکستان کی بربادی دیکھتے ہیں تو، سوچتے ہیں کہ چلو اچھا ہوا ، ہم یہیں رک گئے ،،،، 🇮🇳
es seminar main aqalmand ke liye kafi kuch hy.... liken soch na rakhne walo k liye kuch nahi.. kyu ke unho ne apna dimagh tu use karna nahi bas wohi kuch repeat karna hy jo unhe seekhaya geya hy..khud se unho ne tahqeeq nahi karni.. appreciate your research Dr. hoodbhoy and Others.
India ka development ko dek k fuckistan mai soch-vichar ka bagh-daur chal raha hai.😂
ڈاکٹر صاحب! پاکستان پر جرنیل اور ملوانے مکمل طور پر قابض ہو چکے ہیں!
The Hindutva perspective Prof. Hoodbhoy mentions is probably the loudest one in India but it’s not the majority opinion. Most Hindus believe that there should be 1) a secular uniform civil code for every citizen irrespective of religion and consequently 2) there should be total separation of religion and state, and 3) there should be total freedom to practice religion as long as it is not against the uniform civil code.
The way the Pakistani treated their minorities , the way they encoded their history, the way they glorified their Inveders and they justified their hate towards India , compelled secular, liberal and democratic indians to change their philosophy .
So does Dr Hoodbhoy disclaim the Ashoka Dynasty ( 250 BCE)and or the Gupta Dynasty ( 450 CE)which was surely before Bin Qasim invades Sindh (712 CE) …. By the maps most of North East frontier were either part of the Gupta or Ashoka dynasty … much before Bin Qasim arrived in the Sub continent .. or for that matter how does he he justify the fact that an invader an Anglo Saxon, is “Sikander-a-Azam” while the ruler at that time “Porus” who defended the homeland is never even acknowledged and lastly what about the Mohenjadaro heritage which was much before …. almost 5000 years back
"North East" ???
Alexander was a Macedonian. Macedonian are not Anglo-Saxons. Anglo-Saxons are from N Europe.
@@rmnair90 West …
"Proper summary" of Pakistanis (and indeed the entire discussion!) - please watch ONLY the last few minutes Q&A - just hope there's no "Qatl" later! 😁
Pak identity
1. People who live within the boundaries of the territorial land.
Pak origin
1. Converted Indian hindus. If you are of Arab or Turk or any other origin, you have no claim on the land carved out of India.
How you converted
1. Make up a story because the recorded history is horrifying and gruesome.
Future
1. Whatever you make out of it.
Thank You Sir!
Great debate. Loved it.
nice sir
अगर आप "पुरुष और पुरुषत्व" समझ सकते हैं तो "हिंदू और हिंदुत्व" भी समझ जायेंगे। बिना पुरुषत्व के पुरुष होने का कोई मतलब नहीं है वैसे ही हिंदुत्व रहित हिंदू नही हो सकता।
The highlighter" I look back how I was fooled". If such a genious can be fooled by this deeni churan, literally any one can be fooled.
Dr Parvez is a great man and his show is brilliant---- an Indian
Huge respect to all da participants... But i just have 1 question.. Who will bring the change?? Debates and books r good but when we will enter the pratical world (steps towards the change)
Chair was so right. There is little curiosity in DNA
1:38:00 damaged beyond repair. Goodluck for upcoming bad days ahead. 👍👍
India and Pakistan should again become one country like Germany and Vietnam to become Great together.
We are thankful to British that they removed cancer in pre 1 st stage !!!!
He is a pakistani instead of looking for solution for mess of pakistan. Instead of that he is fixated with india.
Thank you sir!
Ideology of Palistan was a separate Country for Muslims , and a Separate Country of Hidu-Mushrikeen; with true implementation of complete "Quranic-System" i.e. "ISLAM" that actually means an "Islamic-Democratic-State" must be totally governed, based on the vision :
- "Pakistan ka mutlab kia ?
La ilaha illallah !!!"
Pide is growing
Great comedy and great education 😄😄😄😄😄 please continue
Absolutely true, India is more diversified than Pakistan. But it is united as rightly spoken by one of the speaker.
Democracy & Federal Govt with a lot of freedom to each state.....
They are no identify of Pakistan.
The only identity they claim mugal invader and Islam .
And they have no identity after mugal and Islam.
Pakistan never tak about before mugal history because they know they don't have identity before mugal.
Prof Hoodbhoy & team.. Please do comparative economic analysis of Pakistan & Bangladesh.
Very enlightening
Topic thi Pakistani ki identity but talk horehihe India ki bareme 😂😂😂😂
Tum mantenehihe ki tum pehele Indian the to India ke bareme kyu batt horehihe. Full isi propaganda video against India 🖕😡🖕😡
Very good discussion
Dr has shown his true colours. 😊
One more reason to vote for Modi 🚩🚩🚩🚩
Sir you openly cant critic Pakistan and Islam but in India we can openly critic India and other religion without fear, so definitely Pakistan need to get secular and remove Islam from state religion
Everyone in Pakistan should first become Pakistani first.
Concentrate on primary education & secondary education.
Teach proper history to all students.
Establish civilian supremacy.
Concentrate on economic growth......
Forget fighting with India......
In 10 years everything will fall in line slowly.....
Sidhi se baat hai , Pakistan ko 100% Islamic mulk banane mein dar lagta hai😂😂😂
On Target 🎯 The Two Nation Theory began with the economic decline of the Muslims versus the rest of the population‼️
Pakistani getting it wrong all over again about Hindu lol 😂 … this is what I learnt from professor
Kyaa 56 countries main koyi Aisa country hai jo economically sound hai all problems from ur asmani kitaab i think
people of pakistan are now suffering from modi phobia
Can you give examples of the Nations that you mentioned have no Ideology and are Successful?
When in minority they become secular and when in majority, they become islamist. Doc, you do not even have a moral eight when you created pakistan on religious line. It makes me mad when u talk about ratiionalty in your discussion. Maybe uneed to go on sabatical
How far its true that Zinna who had Pakistan for Muslims because they cant live with Hindus, created bloody partition CAN NEVER BE CALLED A SECULAR INDIVIDUAL !!??
Those who forget & condemn history, The country will repeant & will never learn & improve upon.......
We know our weakness and strength.. But who will bring the change? I guess dats da biggest question..
History repeat itself