EUROPEAN vs AMERICAN Cabover Semi Trucks!
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I had a Scania 530 myself and drove throughout Europe, Asia and Russia in the 1990s.
In the end it had 1.6 million miles on the clock when the Scania died in Romania and I sold it there.
5 years later I saw him driving again in Germany, the Romanians had patched him up again.
I had tears in my eyes, my old buddy was still there
Greetings from România!🍻
beautiful ending
the odemator probably has 300k now
@@davewsh8434 lmao
Oh man, i felt so sad reading this, and it never happens... it's weird how we can get attached to objects, and weirder how i felt your sadness.. Dont worry bro, your scania is doing what it's loving, and she has a good owner i guess.
I’m from Tennessee and my dad is a truck mechanic so I grew up around every kind of American truck there is. Last year I went to Sweden and to the Scania museum and was able to get up in one of the new ones and it is miles beyond anything that is offered here in the states, the quality of the interior is Audi level and the one I got in was a 770S so completely flat floor with 5 steps to get up in it.
I totally bet the Murican truck has it's merits but tbh the exterior of the cabin looks not like a mid-90's but a late 1950's design :D I guess Murica designs it's shit to a higher standard so if it's done, it's done. No upgrades for 40 years :D
the appearance of these trucks looks 50 years apart to be honest. Fantastic video
I live in Sweden and drive a Scania Next gen S500, so it has the flat floor and 4 steps up to the cab. Love it and compared to the Americans trucks it looks like a new truck should when the americans trucks looks like they stopped designing in the 80-90s :) i wouldn't wanna change it for any american truck.
why would American manufacturers spend any money to upgrade the cab appearance when no fleets were buying cab-overs and only diehard fans that liked the existing styles were buying them. @@liammeehan8264
Witch city are you from?
American truck , Black smoke . European truck , clean .
If you compare it with a 80s truck then yes
15:19 The sunroof is common place in Europe for many reasons. The most important is to have fresh air coming into the cab. Nowadays, they also have blinds and a mosquito net.
As a plus, they serve to let some light in, when on a break.
15:46 The Griffin is the symbol of Scania, as it is on the original emblem of Scania.
You may see the original symbol on the front of the truck.
The Griffin is the Coast of Arms of the Scania region in Sweden, which provided the name for the truck brand.
15:53 On the old Scanias - like the ones you have - the secondary bed was above the windshield.
Currently, the secondary bed, when optioned, is above the primary bed.
When it is not optioned, the space above the primary bed is storage.
Above the windshield there is storage. Nowadays, especially with flat floor designs (which make the truck significantly taller), those storage compartments are used to place a microwave, a coffe machine, a printer, or other electronic components.
16:04 The fridge and "freezer" is, nowadays, placed below the primary bed, in between the seats.
By doing this, a water bottle is quite more accessible for the driver to take out of the fridge and drink.
21:16 On the trucks I rode in, to split gears you would just need to press the clutch - not to go into Neutral.
Did you try to just change the Split switch, and follow that with a clutch press?
It should change.
The most important part about sunroofs is that it acts as an Escape route if the truck turns over in a ditch. (If you are skinny)
@@ZappaSheik or normal size in Europe.
I have been driving Scania trucks for 30 years of my life, and It may sound extremely boring but i would strongly recommend reading the manual (if you haven't allready chugged it into the bin) you can find the manual online as well, it might enlighten some of your misconceptions about how some things work.🙂
I nearly spat my coffee when Bruce slammed the parking brake on while driving ... 🤣
Or watch Stavros the Irish loon...he's good at pointing out what everything does?
@@1chish yeah me too 😂😂😂
....And he learned not to shift after so many miles... And there is not the versus question ;-) The Scania must not idle in the winter, no dust or noise comes into the cabin, an European truck is much more comfortable than these good looking US-trucks from the older time... I prefer the old F16 Volvo Globetrotter or the MAN Commander with the V10 machine... 500hp and good 10 gallons Diesel p/100km
Oh Noooo! Not the MANUAL!!!!!!
About the cockpit, you forgot to mention that in Scania the steering wheel has depth and tilt adjustment, and that the surface of the mirror glass is curved, which gives a much wider view vs blue collar straight mirror classes. Also there should be possible to tilt the gearstick forward on Scania, much easier to go on the bed. And when you want to split the gear, just preselect hi or low, and then press the clutch pedal. No need to shift neutral
He's american, ofc he doesnt know jagshit about a scania nor how to drive it correctly
Sweet!
and electric adjustment mirrors!
@@tinosenf6937 Or no mirrors at all, only camera's.
Just need to be sloooow when splitting with these older Scanias.
Single vs double back axles is country dependent in Europe. Up here in the North - Norway, Sweden, where there are a lot of hills and mountains and snow and ice, double axle tandem drive is preferred.
So that's the reason I hardly see double axles these days. Apart of dumptrucks
In Sweden and Finland roads are way more spacious and sturdy than in other European countries, vehicles can be up to 113 ft long weighing 84 short tons on 10 axles. So you'll mainly see three-axle tractors there (and they're so much more comfortable to drive). In Sweden they have a mocking term for 4×2 tractors like that Scania in the clip which their poor southern neighbours got to use, they'd call suchlike a 'moped'.
@@sjoormen1 In continental European cabover trucks, 4*2 can hold more fuel that 6*4, so using 4*2 makes more sense for articulated trucks (tractor-trailers).
I am long haul european driver from Poland with almost 30 years experience and I found this video as a great tutorial for all the truck lovers.
Just to make it right a few explanations:
1.Not all the tractor units in Europe are so rich equipped and filled with such interriors (for me this styling of scania interrior remind a bordello from Wild West:). Such trimming is usually made on the demand of drivers/owners. Standard cabs for normal drivers are usually much more "calm"
2. The cabs are not always the same size. Makers offers three heights of cabs and two widths. The one above Scania is called Topline version, just biggest.
4. The trucks in Europe are speed limited to 56 mph (90 kph) (safety reasons, and economical too, look at the price for fuel there...)
4. Tanks are so big due to a differences in cost of fuel in each european country. If you fill them up in cheap country then it is your profit to drive much more on cheaper fuel. than if had small tank.
And tanks are originally not covered with anything.
5. Nowadays gear boxes in europe are usually full automtatic. Manual transmission only for order.
6. Tractor units in Europe have two axle to minimize length. Here we don;t have much big wide streets like in States but plenty of tight roundabouts, so 3 axles be more difficult to manouver. But some firms use 3 axles to carry heavier loads (popular in UK and Norway) they can be 44 t heavy then instead of standard 40 t.
50t in Norway 🤷
Thanks for the information 👍
And they come with blinkers too. 😂
And for extreme loods there are also 4 or 5 alle cabovers.
your infos are righ, just for 6: The lenght (or better shortage) of the tractor is not only important because of the narrower streets in Europe. The other reason are restrictions on lenght over all. In the US they just restrict the lenght of the trailer, so your tractor can be as long as you want. In Europe there is a restriction over all. Thats why you want to have a short tractor to maximize your trailer lenght.
Because the scania is limited to 90kph the diff ratio is completely different... with 530 v8 you can start in 3rd and skip a load of gears to get to top gear... keep the revs low and the v8 will do the rest 😉
The 14 liter V8s like to rev a bit higher than the 16's actually.
When Europeans have to teach Americans about V8s 🤣🤣🤣
I feels weird
@@sierp13pl ngl everyone uses i6 diesels for a reason Scania is like the only one with a v8 because they think its cool
@@alouisschafer7212 mercedes also uses a v8 and v6, MAN also uses a v8
@@alouisschafer7212it is cool tho
And that lever you pulled on the dashboard is not the exhaust brake. It's the retarder in the gearbox. It is attached to the planetary gear behind the gearbox.
The exhaust brake is the button on the floor next to the clutch if I remember correctly.
and with an automatic box the floor button does down-shift by one short press even depends on the eco roll pack and wich drive modes are programmed company i know only uses eco mode and normal mode that really sucks above 60km no downshift on the shift leveler
When you go to the Last Position with the Retarder lever the exhaust brake is On by the 4 Series.
you can shut it off with an switch in the Dashboard
The retarder is a 5 step hydraulic unit attached to the gearbox output(so it works even in neutral). And then an exhaust brake(butterfly valve in the exhaust just down from the turbo) on top of that. There should also be a button in the centre of the floor that activates just the exhaust brake by it's self. New models have around 1000hp of braking power from that system alone and some owners report almost 1million klms out of a set of brakes due to no needing to use the service brakes.
The best part. Here in Australia we have roadtrains running down mountain ranges in low gears at around 20kph. But a Scania with that retarder will do double that and still not need to use the brakes. And this system was being used in Scanias in the 80s
Nice that you kept our Dutch license plates on the truck. Was able to look up the history and the technical specs of the truck.
Odd, because I believe those plates stay property of the RDW (DMV)
@@Nightdare how? when I buy a German car, it comes with German plates and I, the buyer am responsible for swapping them for Dutch ones.... why would it be different the other way around? the RDW just updates their database that plate XX-YY-XX is not viable anymore.
@@Blackadder75
I was wrong:
"In Nederland is een kenteken gebonden aan het voertuig. Bij verkoop blijft het kenteken bij het voertuig."
_In the Netherlands, a license plate is tied to the vehicle. When sold, the license plate remains with the vehicle._
It also had to be some time in Germany, because the "Schaustellerbetrieb" on the side.
Wait that is possible?
With that remote for raising and lowering the rear suspension (air bags) there's a button on there to auto level the truck after you raise or lower it so you don't have to stand there watching it and guess the ride height, just hit the button and walk away and it'll automatically raise or lower to the correct ride height. Those air hook ups on the Scania are the same as we use in NZ on all trucks.
With the splitter you don't have to shift the lever to get the splitter to change gear, just stab the clutch and it'll change, so flick the switch then stab the clutch and it should shift.
Even no need to dab the clutch on the split, Just release the throttle all way and youre good to go
@@carlpro14 it does not work like that with synchronized gearbox
it is the green button
@@carlpro14dude, on the European trucks transmissions are fully synchronized and the range and splitter buttons on the gearshift are electric and they only preselect the next shift, but at this point the electric circuit is still open and nothing happens. To finish the job and actually change the range or split the gear there is a switch which further needs to close the circuit only when you step on the clutch pedal and that’s when the range and/or splitter electro-pneumatic valve/s is/are finally actuated.
Pros: any knucklehead can drive the truck without tearing the transmission into a thousand pieces. Kind of a “dummy proof transmission”.
Cons: complicated system, needs more $$$ for maintenance, and of course for many more parts when it needs repairing as compared with a non synchro.
On the non synchronized American transmissions the range and splitter switches on the gear shifter knob are pneumatic and that’s why it works when floating gears.
Pros: simple and very cheap system to maintain and keep working. Does not require the use of the clutch pedal when shifting main gears, for range change and splitting gears.
Cons: you can easily cause serious damage to the transmission or even completely blow up the transmission if you don’t know what you’re doing. A cheap thing that could end up costing you allot of mullah.
@@hereintranzit im a Uk trucker and I’ve had one of these trucks and you are exactly right preselect the half gears dip the clutch it’s goes over no need to pull outta gear. I would drive that bobtail pull away 3rd/4th depending on how good the clutch is and then miss a gear accordingly in the lower half’s until in top gear and then click it once and you’ll be cruising at 60+ in no time
this was the type of video ive been searching for all these years. European cabover vs american cabover, direct comparison.
You should come to Australia
Still not that accurate. Beat down old Scania isn't very good truck to compare to.
@@alpharaptor7510 Better to go to New Zealand. They have both varieties too. A friend of mine wouldn't drive European for any amount of money.
On top of that most of those options were available on American trucks in 1996. The freightliner might not have been ordered with very many options from the factory. The biggest part with US manufacturers is they have a ton of option because you can put them on aftermarket but the manufacturers don’t install them because they want to add a new feature every year so they can continuously increase the price as well as keep people buying new trucks because they want the factory options. They also want to have the ability to up-charge you for a bunch of factory accessories. I’ve been in some really nice loaded out trucks from the 90’s, even a several with 250 and 300 gallon fuel tanks. Plus US trucks cabs are much larger so you have more room to stretch out at the end of the day. It would be nice if they brought back the big V8 and V12 twin turbo diesels again. He would have more room in the US truck if he had the high roof version. Not really an apples to apple comparison when you have one truck that was top of the line version and the other wasn’t. Compare a top of the US truck next to top of the Euro truck and see which comes out on top. That includes actually pulling equally loaded trailers to see which one actually pulls better and rides better while fully loaded at legal maximum weight.
Europeans are kings of bad taste. That interior would make a gypsy proud.
Start on 4 low split, up to 5 low split, 5 high split, 6 low split and as you go in to 6 high split you have reach 90 kmh or 55 mph and done correct you should have done it in 9 sek. Just start training and be careful of the clutch. 😄👍 good luck
Enjoyed your comparison between your American trucks and our European ones. The big v8s now go to 770hp while a straight 6 cylinder Volvo is 750hp. All now standard with auto gearboxes. Cabovers are the norm over here but there are some bonnetted trucks on the roads. That was a great video and loved to see the differences.
Cabovers are the norm because European regulations limit the length of the entire truck, while American regulation just limits the length of the load.
Bonetted trucks in Europe are mainly used for transporting heavy materials, where the weight limit is reached way before the length limit.
Vlastuin makes custom bonnets for Scania and Volvo. Go check them out. It’s not that I like the bonnets but you can’t mod them.
In oltre in Europa le strade sono più strette e le curve sono più chiuse...
Un "nasone" con semi rimorchio avrebbe molte difficoltà... Soprattutto il passo lungo farebbe "tagliare" troppo le curve al rimorchio.
Molte aziende hanno piazzali piccoli dove fare manovra. Il nasone diventa un incubo...
@@sanderd17 ty, I watched many videos, but you are the first to explain it this clear and briefly
jaja automtikschrottgetriebe - für weiber und alte säcke ! gut das ich vor 30 jahren aufgehört habe - keiner wird dich heute fragen ob du unsynchronisiertes getriebe fahren kannst ! brauch die kupplung nur zum anfahren und rangieren - - - automatik getreibe wie kann ich das schalten
Being an original build for Belgium, it will probably have a short diff ratio. The speed limit in Belgium and Holland is 50mph, you can expect a ticket over 53 mph, but they run at high weights. That tractor has a maximum weight (this is only Belgium and NL) of 21000kg (46400lbs) about the same as a US 6x4 I think the single drive is legal to 13000kg (28600lbs) the front to 8000kg (17600) a tri-axle trailer has a 27000kg (59400lbs) bogie giving 48tonnes (105600lbs) gross on 5 axles 2+3, plus they don't really enforce weights anyhow. The view is more weight per truck means fewer trucks on the road. So high weights and low speeds equal short gearing. In the UK, that unit would have had a 3.08 diff. Whilst it may have that, it's more likely to be a 3.5 or even 3.77.
The turbo lag has always been a Scania V8 thing, when Mercedes, MAN and IVECO built turbo V8 and V10 trucks they used a smaller turbo on each side to get around that, Scania always stuck to the big single, drivers like it for that sudden thump on the back it gives. I think I'm the only European who thinks the twin small ones is the better way.
That pintel coupling must have been fairground related. No normal tractor in Europe has that set-up; weird.
it sure was a Gypsy Tractor last time in europe, says it on the Spoiler,
also he said it in an earlier video.
Also true statment about the Turbo, I drive an 2018 MAN D2676 500 with the Bi-Turbo that thing hauls out like nothing,
the newer 520 are a dying Donkey, they stuck with no revs and a big turbo.
@@dark_one1337Also the interior looks Gypsy compatible. 😄
@@serpent213 aye, definitely gee's me the boke.
Speed limit in Belgium is 56mph (90kph) only The Netherlands have the 50mph (80kph) limit ;)
@krofski it is now, but it wasn't in 1996 when that unit was specced. I have the ticket to prove it, west bound just before Lokkeren.
Hello! I've noticed that when you approach an intersection or turn, you put the transmission in neutral. In European trucks with manual transmission and automatic (older versions), the oil pressure depends on the operation of the transmission, so it's better not to do it in order not to damage the transmission. For this reason, the propeller shaft must be removed when towing such a truck. I use a translator because I don't know English very well, but I hope the content is understandable 🙂 Nice video!
It's also safer to engage the drive-train and remain in control (compared to freewheelin') of the vehicle.
This only applies if you turn the engine off. There is a big difference when taking corners with gear engaged and it is that it keeps the turbo running, so you will reduce your fuel consumtion and don´t need to wait for the lag.
@@Rubensgardens.SkogsmuseumReally? The turbo relies on exhaust pressure, right? So whether you are in gear or not, the engine load will determine the rpm of the turbo and hence the power and lag you get. If you mean that you should keep the RPM up, I agree, but that has nothing to do with being in gear or not.
One correction. In order to use split gears you only have to press the clutch. No need to go to neutral. :)
Well, you know, we have different schools) let's say on the same zf16s151 the same on all European boxes, to switch the "half" it is enough to squeeze the clutch well, the main gears can be switched without a clutch, although experience is already needed for this)
Think he meant the high/low.
The griffin is an heraldic symbol for Skåne ( Scania in Latin language)and a slightly different version as Malmo Town weapon and it appeared in the year 1457 . Scania started in Malmo, a town in Skåne in the year 1900 . Later on it became Scania-Vabis and 1968 became SAAB-Scania ( SAAB= Svenska Aeroplan Aktie Bolag= Swedish Airplane Limited) and became Scania in 1972...
That drifthandle is your parkingbrake and should always be pulled back (until it clicks) when parked. To undo it just pull it upwards and let go.
There is no need to park it with a gear as you have the parkingbrake and the brakes works backwards, if you run out of air they will lock up, so you actually need air in the system to make them come loose and can start rolling.
If you ever run out of air like something breaking or its been standing to long there (under 6 bar airpressure) there will be an autofeature that will lock the brakesystem, to undo this you need to air up the system over 6 bar and push a button thats below the drifthandle.
Also looks like your exhaustbrake is turned off, its the button to the most right thats says AUT (for automatic use when tapin on the brakepedal there is a microswitch that will turn it on).
The other lever to the right of your steeringwheel is the retarder, its a brake that sits on the gearbox, youll figure it out when driving more.
For ease of use there is a lever on the left side of the steeringwheel (can be a bit janky) that will tilt you steeringwheel to any position you like and will make it easier to climb around in the cab.
Also at the bottom of the gearshifter ther is a little pullingthing similar to the range that will tilt your gearshifter so you can climb around easier.
Seems like something is wrong with your EDCsystem (Electric Diesel Control), there should be alot more power down the revs, could easy run that thing from 800rpm up to 1600, i would bet its the "special" injector (front passengerside) all of the other 7 are mechanical injectors while the last has a electric part to it that messure something, when that fails she gets all weak and feels like 200hp less.
Make sure you get the correct Orings/injectorseals(only the 14l seals will work 16l seals wont), otherwise they will piss fuel all over the place
For racing with no load like that just hop her away on low 4th gear and then run her all the way to 2k rpm and then shift to low 6th, less shifting more use of engine saves time shifting gears (not recomend way of driving normaly this is just for mexico dragstrip).
edit: whatever you do dont run out of fuel, 14l is a pain to get any air out of the fuelsystem and she wont start, you can crank for hours, you have to handpump all the air out throughout diffrent places on the engine(before fuelfilter and after then on the pump and then on the injectors if she ran all dry, incase of getting out of fuel just turn engine off fast, beware that you have no servos working so might depend if you wanna coast her to a safe place with the engine spinning by being connected to the road but then she will be dry)
Pain in the ass nr2: always keep her topped up on coolant/water, if she gets to low (empty coolanttank and abit less) she will get an airpocket in the engine even if you fill her up, to get rid of said airpocket you need to pump the water up from below with special tools while having the coolanttank open.
Also on the top part of the frontgrill where the Scaniatext is, you can give that a little tug and it will pop out so its easy to fill up water without having the grill in the way or in your case have to lower the whole frontbar.
edit2: inside of the speedometer is the tachograph, opens with the little key above it, make sure you have a tachographpaper in it and that it is correctly sealed and the speedometer will pop back to life and show correct speeds.
Tip for trackuse/countries that dont have laws to have speedlimiters, put a magnet on top of the gearbox, there is a little steelball inside that will drop down and cut the speed at what the limiter is configured to, with said magnet it can not drop down and you can speed on without pulling nr1 fuse or have it turned off with a computer.
Lastly above the drifthandle there is a black little cover that says diagnosis, you can pop that open and you have a bunch of buttons that you can diagnose stuff with (never played around with this as we had computers that we hooked into the obd2port instead, witch you will find left of the steeringwheel with the cabdoor opeb behind a small cover)
Drove a 144 for 10years, best truck i ever had miss her every day.
edit3: almost forgot, other than regular maintenance like oil and filter and such you should adjust the valves every 50000 to 100000km.
At 1200000-1500000km (1.2mil to 1.5mil kilometers) you should change the main crank bearings and rodbearings and she will do another 1.5million kilometers:)
Nlp
V. V. 😊
Muy bien explicado, incluso demasiado técnico para un americano que sube al truck arranca pone 2a y accéléra . supongo que eres inglés o del Reino Unido.
Yo soy Español y vi un documental sobre la última versión del Magnum (Renault)520 modelo ruta66.
Y en el área más grande de USA subieron varios yruckers americanos y se sorprendieron del espacio interior que tenía la cabina con el piso plano .sobre todo les sorprendió la comodidad de conducción con sus 4 balones neumáticos que mantienen la cabina suspendida del Magnum.
Lo podéis buscar en TH-cam si no lo s retirado.
Muy entretenido
Otra cosa, ellos o vosotros los norteamericanos tienen la visión de un truck europeo por el Volvo VNL 860.
Pero no han probado un Volvo FH16 con no hace falta 750HP. Simplemente El XL 610HP es un vehículo impresionante como sube con 44 toneladas y poniendo el I.Shift en modo manual.ya pueden ponerse a su lado el cummins o el Caterpillar a su lado que no se intimida.
Ah y también hay un Scania XXL francés de transporte de carne 620Hp impresionante Transports BEAU
Hats off sir. You know your stuff.
WOW. It is sad how you need to explain that it is the parking brake for the guy that owns the truck. I hope in the end the Scania finds a good home with him. And yes there is no excuse to not use the parking brake on this things. And never leave the gear in when parked. Asking for trouble.
Beware when driving with the magnet on your gearbox, that the low range lockoff doesnt work so the truck will allow you to shift it into say second gear when driving 90kph. Just the shifting to low range at that speed can do damage to it. Normally therr is a lock, that would shift it to low only when under 30kph or something like that. With the magnet on it does not work anymore
You shouldn't need to take it out of gear while splitting gears. Just flip the switch and clutch in and out.
Depends on which split, there are 2 different
@@psundberg123well if he was going into high range he would but if a gear is getting split like 5L go 5H you don’t require clutch press.
@@computerman9971 You’ll always need clutch press, I would know since I’ve driven a manual Scania for a year.
@@computerman9971 You won’t have to fully put it out of gear although between a 5L-5H split.
@@psundberg123 yeah I meant to say you can just leave it in gear and split if the throttle if let out
When it was still in Europe, that truck seemed to have belonged to Carneval showmen (that's what the German text on the side says btw) - which also explains the interior. Showman families haul everything from rides to Caravan Trailers with these things.
my dad in australia drove his k model kenwrorth for 40 odd years until recently retiring number plates were kw-1965.
he bought it as a dump truck, revoved the tub an put a fithwheel on it.. and it just kept growing..
twin axle on air bag with abs. cat signature serries and all b- double rated in our strict ass country
i loved that truck being so hands on with it growing up.. but u can not beat the newer euro trucks now.
back in the 90s they were full of electronics which is why alot of people stayed away untill the American brands caught up and used shit loads of electronics too
Now in australia we need both..
euro truck in the cities and American for the dirt outback long haul roads
Put 90,000lbs behind you and watch the Griffin piss over everything?!
😃
Generally speaking, europe allows more weight per axle than america and generally more overall weight.
Its fairly close in overall weight though, up to 88184 lbs with a 4x2 truck and 3 axle trailer in europe which is pretty much the standard
Basic explanation: The US's bridges (and a lot of the roads...) aren't built to handle as much weight as they tend to be in europe, hence more strict maximum weight per axle.
I'm also gonna say the Scania will pull a lot better with weight behind it, the v8's love the weight
yes the weight restrictions are much different, that scania could handle something arround 25.000 lbs on its rear axle easily.
Not really true. In wyoming (and many western states) you can go well over 115,000 lbs and much higher with permits. In some states such as Michigan they haul as much as 180,000 lbs daily. In Idaho they're allowed 91 feet of trailers without a permit. But yes, a lot of east coast and interstate is limited to 80,000.
Google michigan gravel trains
*well over 52,1631226 tons; as much as 81,6466266 tons daily;
27, 7368 meters of trailers; limited to 36,2873896 tons
@@denzzlinga*around 11,3398093 tons
I do have an '86 Freightliner FLC12064 over here in the Netherlands. I am telling almost the same story the other way. The reason why European trucks are shorter is because our total length limit is 16.5m (54ft). The max weight, on the other hand, is in the Netherlands 50 metric tons.
The inside of the Scania, it was a Schausteller-truck, a Circus-truck, hauling amusement-arcades across Europe, that's why they chose the strange interior.
3:57 Sorry man but that depends on country, here in the Nordic countries most trucks are tandem drive unlike Southern Europe that mostly use single or tag.
Tandem drive is rare except for construction. Raisable tag axles are the norm.
Well as he said. In Norway or Sweden there are more bogie axle tractors than in elsewhere. It's because usually double driven rear axles cutting down on your payload going to the other parts of Europe. That's why they are found more often where it's legal to pull more than 40 (43) tons.
Sometimes you even struggle to keep the weight with an lift axle (tag or pusher) not speaking about the overall length registration here.
Adding a bull bar doesn't do anything good for the length problem either 😂
UK we typically run a midlift or single tag although twin tag is common too
@@calumhowieson9511 I never understood the midlife axles. Sure, they add some payload capacity but in the winter they are totally useless. I get that in GB there are less traction issues but still...
@@ImForwardlook to be honest I don’t totally know the reason for the midlift preference, considering our narrow streets I’d have thought a taglift would be better for turning circle. And also as mentioned the tag is better for traction though our winters etc
The eagle in the Scania label is actually a Griffin. The Griffin is also used by SAAB. Back in the days Scania and SAAB worked together and developed the SAAB 900. There also is a Scania Silver Griffin series.
Keep up the good work! Great channel!
Saab and Scania become one Company in 1968 and ended in 1995 when GM buy Saab 😊
they developed Saab 99,90,900 and 9000 😊
It's also called "the puking chicken"
Griffin is taken from the weaponshield of Skåne as Scania is latin for Skåne. Skåne is the southest region of Sweden
@@martinwallin3674 GM only bought the car division of Scannia. Scania kept they weapons and plane divisions of SAAB.
GM destroyed the SAAB cars then closed it down after taking all the tech from it the US companies could not figure out how to make them selves. GFord did the same with Volvo cars.
The workers at the SDAAB facory bought SAAB back from GM and tried to make more cars but GM refused to let them have the tech designs back so they ended up not being able to make decent cars again and went bankrupt.
Then Chinese investors wanted to invest in SAAB to get them running again but GM saiud no as they had the rights to the SAAB car brand name and told Scania to not let the Chinese use the Scannia factory to make the cars and refused to let the Chinese use the SAAB name or griffin logo.
So now SAAB cars r only made and sold in China and they r now all electric and the best electric cars in the worlds and a lot cheaper than the ones made in the USA.
Forgot the name SAAB now uses but u can only buy them in China.
I used to have a SAAB 9000 2 litre eco power light pressure turbo. automatic even hitting 150mph it felt like i was only doing about 30mph it was so smooth a ride. Took it on a race track to see how fast it would go. hard down the the accelerator even doing 60mph u got pushed back into the seat with the acceleration of it and it just kept going till it hit 150.
It would do 18mpg round towns with stop start driving. but get it on a motorway and get it to 70mph and turn on cruise control it did 70mpg.
Even my sisters 1 litre Nissan micra only got 30mpg on a motorway.
Only car i had that was faster was the volvo 760 2.8 litre v6. that hit 190mph on the race track before i ran out of straight and had to hit the brakes and it still wasnt at full speed. took a lot longer to get upto speed as its a bigger heavier car but it was fast.
Just about every safety feature on cars now was invented by either SAAB or volvo. Like 3 point seat belts. anti lock brakes, disk brakes, safety cells, crumple zones. air bags just to name a few. US wanted that tech so bought out the Swedish car companies just so they could get their hands on the tech. Same with the British car companies bought out by German companies to get their hands on British car tech.
And they even made planes too like the Saab 340 and 2000.
Factory airbrush art is really the coolest thing one can point out.
14:29 The US truck honks with the gas pedal. 😄
The American truck design seems insane when you consider the time that truckers have to spend on the road. Cabin comfort should have very high priority.
One important thing that’s missing from your compare video: Yes, the Scania may have more options/tech, but you have to pay for it: they are EXPENSIVE, compared to the US cabover. So you have to take the economics into account as well
As an 88M in Mannheim, Germany I found things could get very tight very fast. The tandem axle 915 A2 (a freightliner conventional day cab painted in green camo) was a beast to control on narrow European roads at times. One wrong turn could lead to disaster. There was the time "someone" had to jackknife "their" trailer into a pond in front of a school surrounded by gawking school kids and glaring teachers. Then there was the time "someone" turned too soon into a factory and wound up having to turn around in their exquisitely manicured front lawn. If "they" had been a fraction of a second too slow about flipping on my power divider I would probably still be there today! And that was over twenty years ago. Of course, nothing was tighter than the time "someone" ran out of fuel on the autobahn due to a faulty sending unit. "They" wound up using the shackles from the front bumpers of two trucks to get off at the first rest stop we could get to. I guess there was between 10 to 15 inches between the two rigs. It was pretty hairy. At least that's what I "heard". I wonder if anyone else ever tied two trucks together to keep OPPS from finding out they had run out of fuel on the autobahn.
It's the way of the road, Bubs. The way of the road....
I'm so glad that what happens on the road, "Stays on the ROAD!" , because that is not even the tip of the iceberg my friend. 😜 @@straybullitt
@@-OICU812-don’t worry, bud, we all know that sh!t happens ! LOL
Our unit had the honorable tradition of taping tach boxes as well. Battalion would go through those tachometer records to find such transgressions as speeding and the like. The tradition of putting a piece of tape on the tach graphs just ahead of the speed limits was thus honorably passed down through the ranks. I thought I might actually get in trouble over it once. Just after getting a promotion to E-6 and being made responsible for the tachometer box records the new tach officer calls me in and says that he intends to report me to battalion for taping my box and showing a new soldier how to do it. I looked at him and said, "That's fine sergeant, but I'll be letting the CO know who it was that taught me how to do it. The tach records for that mission are probably already down at battalion, so good luck with that. Of course, he was the honorable NCO that had passed our gloried tradition of the taping of the tach box on to me, so I never heard another word out of it. People who try to look good by stepping on others really piss me off. Especially if I'm the one being stepped on! 🤬@@hereintranzit
No doubt, the European trucks are something else in a lot of important driver focused ways.
No doubt, the USA trucks are something else in a lot of cool factors ways.
There is nothing as bad ass like the idea of not using a clutch when sifting gears. Real mans work. :)
Or the fact that the engine is in the front and you get super long trucks. Just look when they pull in from the road. Even now we got non fifth wheelers that are just as long. There is just something about the American older trucks that is hardcore. Even if they are worse of a place to work in/with.
@TheDiner50 that length would be a problem on European roads and in European cities. It would also give manoeuvring problems at a lot of delivery and collection places where the yard isn't so big. There's a place I go to unload and reload and you can just about put a 40 foot trailer on the bay with the type of European truck in the video, another half a foot in overall length and it would be impossible. In Europe we do have shorter trucks than the US but I think we have a lot of trailers that are taller than are used there, we have a LOT of trailers being hauled that are around 16ft in height and have 2 load decks inside. I use these trailers most nights.
BR-HZ-47. Still registered in the Netherlands and was imported to the Netherlands in 2005. It has seen better days...
That truck used to live a few kilometers away from me and belongs to a company that runs attractions on state fairs and such.
Those air couplings front and back are used to maneuver attractions around the fairgrounds into their position. Search for clips with titles containing "Kermis".
I indeed see it registered on the RDW site, stating it's not exported. How is that even possible?
@@XRRS24 heel vreemd . Met export moeten de platen ingeleverd worden. Ding staat niet gestolen of exporteerd op rdw ?
@@brambo113 ja precies, dat dus. Erg apart. Idd niet gestolen of geëxporteerd. Alleen al jaren geen apk meer en niet verzekerd.
Its original Belgian, ceusters Willy transport..
The green button on the remote for the air is drivemode, just hit it and it will go to standard or drivemode as we call it in Europe.It's especially important when you need to know how high your truck is. Most trucks in Europe will have a sticker somewhere in the cab which tells the driver how high the truck is in drivemode so you don't hit a bridge or something.
Great video, keep up the great work!
21:18 when you want to split gears you can leave the gearstick in gear. Just put the button on the side up, use the clutch once and thats it.
You missed on the scania at the outside this small air ducting on either side at the height of the radiator. That actually has a use: When it rains normally your front wheel would throw up a lot of mist and water, making your mirrors all clogged up and you can´t see. Those duct make air move along the side of the truck, making a rather strong air stream there just above the front wheel whcich blows away all that water that is thrown upwards by the wheel, therefore keeping your mirrors clean
so thats what those things are:D
@@ElysiaWhitemoonOmega the latest generation euro-trucks (for example the new DAF, IVECO, the just released electric actros) have removed them again, as they have improved aero in such a way that they no longer are necessary
@@CrazyJacala interesting, i didnt even know what those protucions where for until that comment, never to old to learn new stuff
The Scania is highly modified. European trucks tend to be much more utilitarian, especially on the inside.
The closed deck is after market and the air connectors are a special kind, predominantly used in Scandinavia. So we call them "swedish couplings". The normal ones are the same as yours.
On the inside, all of the red plush is a custom job.
That style is also very Scandinavian, but has been adopted to other parts of Europe as well. The Netherlands, though not Scandinavian, have adopted that truck culture with slight modifications.
With an automated transmission, drag racing would be pointless. The system is developed, to avoid wear on the clutch.
If it is a manual, you can start in 5th, or 6th gear, and that thing will launch.
The bed in the roof is quite wide, for a European truck of that time. This was the main reason, for installing it up there.
In Europe, it is not only the length of the trailer, that is limited, but the length of the rig as well. So there is no way, to make the cab longer, to fit in wider beds. Downside to this bed, you will witness in winter temperatures. The roof gets quite cold and touching it in your sleep, will probably wake you up.
But still, a 1982 142H is more modern inside and out than this US cabover ...
I think the Scania was used by East Europeans.
11:03 "you can see the eyelids of a deer from a 1 000 yards away"😭🔥🔥🔥
There is a gentleman who if I'm not mistaken he is Portuguese (EU) who lives in Newark and he has some scanias, his name is Abreu Truck Services, Frelinghuysen Ave, Newark. He is scania knowledgeable if you need some help, he has scanias for racing too 😁
Fun fact: The little tree is an american invention, but shortly after it was popular in cars, a swedish manufacturer reach out and got a contract to produce them for europe. A factory in western sweden (fjällbacka) makes these trees called wonderbaum for europe. About half the fraigrances are the same, but the rest is individual to work with the europeen sense of smell.
Another fun fact is that the little tree he found was the Italian version called "Arbre Magique" with the Vanilla scent
The name is Wunder-Baum, not Wonderbaum. The headquartes and the factory of the European company Wunder-Baum AG producing those under license from Julis Sämann Ltd. is located in Switzerland. Those things smell awful and give you a headache.
Oh, there are many that produce them on license. The one in sweden are the biggest manufactor in europe. Thats why i took that as an example.@@laakeri84
SCANIA - a first class vehicle made in SWEDEN, the same small country where we make VOLVO, another first class truck!
Look wise there is nothing to beat that Freightliner. What a beautiful truck!
Here in Staya we get to choose both. I've driven plenty of Kenworths and Freightshakers, and although some did have the "cool" factor, nothing beats a Euro truck for comfort and driver focus. Used to own a 143H TopLine gumboot Scania, and that thing fully loaded used to roar, uphill it would lift the left steer in the air, and with dual drive axles on the back it would drift in corners when bob tail. These days the company truck I drive is a Mercedes Actros with what is pretty much a rebadged and tweaked DD15 Detroit motor. Shits all over the Freightliners we have for pulling power, comfort, fuel economy and just build quality in general. when I got into my works frieghtliner cabover with 120,000km on it, it was already creaking and rattling, cracks in plastics, cupboards behind the drivers seat had broken latches, problems with electrical stuff, the Merc has over 700,000km on it and the only thing rattling is the beer bottles in the fridge. If I was to buy a truck for me these days I'd look at a Euro truck hands down.
Another example of a low life lying on the internet for no disenable reason. Its utterly Insane to say that Europe can even match American standards, much less surpass them. I know this is something people want to believe, but it will never be true not matter much you lie or gaslight yourself.
Fun thing. The longer you make the straight pipe the louder the Scania gets. Seen some weird pipe contraptions underneath Scania's in the past. That's why it's now quieter than before you cut the "muffler" off.
In Dutch they call it "klapperpijp" Scania's with a very loud straight exhaust.
There is a Dutch Scania with a 18 meter long exhaust. It sounds absolutely epic.
No brasil tem bastante, chamos de "diretão" escape direto
Great video and cool trucks! It would be interesting with more of driving comparing, especially in a litle challengin conditions. I wish someone could do similar videos and comparing US and European trucks also from the 60's, 70's and 80's.
Fun fact: The Scania is a product with heritage of SAAB, and the mentality of the military origin as a airplanemaker. SAAB was early on designing landvehicles with aerodynamics in consideration. (Google the different car models from 1940's and forward, and you will notice the vingshape from the side, the curved frontwindow etc.)
The exterior of a truck is also designed by testing in max speed (55mph in Europe) in a windtunnel. The wind forced around the corner is making a whirl that in fact pulling the side of the cab forward. Removing parts or not replacing damaged parts can cost a lot of fuel.
Now Scania have v8 770 HP and they do have 6x4 drive as well
Im a truck driver from Scotland, UK. Ive spent most of my career in Scania Trucks. Ive been trucking since 1999 and still love it! Great Video mate.
Those Peterbilt cabovers look really cool.
As a finnish truck driver, couple comments hit a nerve. There are some things on your truck that may seen odd because its seen so much life. Like you showed in the first episode, where you bought it, it used to be a box truck with towing hitch and after that it was concerted to be a semitractor. Thats why there is two sets of air/light connectors. If it was bougtt as semitractor, it wouldnt have the second set.
Also, about the weight limits here. I would say 95% of our semi trailers are 3 axle. So even with a 2 axle tractor it would total to 5 axles.
Max weight for said setup would be 44 000 kg (~97000 pounds). Tho there is a lot of w3 axle tractor. Weight limit for them is 53 000kg/97000lb. Most of them are 6x2 config, with second axle being streering and liftable. 6x4 are rare in semi usage, mainly used in hct (high capacity transport, up to 110ft long, 168 000 lb).
Some of this is info is off topic cause these are the modern regulations, things have off course been different in the 90s.
And about your truck. There is so much after market on it that its hard to compare them. Fuel tank covers are custom, from factory theyre bare. Naturally all of the red leather on the inside is custom.
And what comes to sunroof, its actually mandatory here. It doubles as a evacution route if you tip your truck. Youll find one from pretty much every single european truck.
Hit me up if you want to know more, too lazy to type more here :)
Hi Bruce to split the gears just flick the switch then dip the clutch in and out. No need to take it out of gear at all. 😊
In the UK we've started making it mandatory for trucks visiting London to have one of the small windows on the doors at the bottom or having a system in place to detect and alert the driver that someone or something is in that blind spot aswell
shame we didnt make it mandatory for people to fing look before crossing the road.. or just dont stand infront of a truck.. cus those cameras they are having us fit are FUGLY and irritating to drive with.
@@Gazzxy agreed not exactly stealth.
Because of female cyclists...haven't checked latest stats, but truck v bike kill rate,was 100% women...opens up a whole can of questions?
U did a great comparison especially with the suspension, the steps and the add. HELLA lights. Great job.
Kenworth still build cab over prime movers here in Australia, many are 'roadtrain rated' with multiple fuel tanks, big HP and an excellent reputation for chassis strength needed on many of our outback roads and severe duty conditions.
They are built to Australian specifications and are quite different to US trucks, and in right hand drive.
Build quality and finish is excellent.
The big difference is the incredible braking power of European trucks is because of abs braking I've seen a video where a dad truck slams on brakes with trailer to perfect straight line no jack knifing in front off 2 kids who crossed without looking
The single rear axel trucks are for mid and southern Europe. Up north we have tandems, with lift.
Also, the bed up top in the Scania is usually placed above the bottom bed, and it folds up. So you have room to stand up straight in the truck.
Yeah, I though that too, this one is very wierdly specced inside, never seen a front mount upper bunk tbh.
@@PowerslideSWEthis particular model is the 4 series topline model. The topline always had a bed above the driver. Bruce was talking about a standard European truck but I think he needs to do some research because this one was fully pimped by the first owner in Belgium. Ronny Ceusters😅
You guys have to come to Europe to try out a new model Scania.. and you have to learn how to drive them.. and check out the fuel mileage.
@@arvidsrensen3250 Yeah, new s-series is like driving a big go-cart, it handles so well. Also cabin layout is outstanding with big bed and flat floor
Yeah, new 530S can make with heavy load and bit og mountains about 29-34l liter per 100km. Depends on driver. I had S580 and with fully loaded Norway mountains i had like 37 liters per 100km. Also had frigo. It was 6x4 and treiler 3 sets of axel.
S models have flat floor.
SCANIA V8 POWER! So Iconic for those of us viewing from outside the US. Where I live Scania has been the number 1 brand for years and I remember seeing my first Scania which was a 1113 series cabover and was just blown away when they started it up. Most of those 113-146 series trucks are Gems these days especially the V8's and the T-cab trucks. I am so happy to see that our American friends can finally import and enjoy these as we have. Your Scania is a BEAST. A good service and a thorough check/repair of all systems and I think she'd whip the blue collar truck. Would be awesome to see brad take it out for a drive.
Volvo n1.
After the first Scania truck I saw on Utube. I have wanted one. I love the Longline the best.
Having few things to disagree with you, Bruce: the deckplate and tank covers are not standard.
We also have a single truck in Europe with the steps behind the wheel, that's the Renault Magnum. And hey, that thing had a Mack V8 in it in the late 90s.
Also for the gear splitter you dont have to take it out of the gear. Just use the splitter then kick the clutch while holding gear.
Also, your Scania is 530, not 550. The 144 mark means its a 14 Liter, 4 series.
There are also 164 versions. 16 Liter V8 going up to 580hp as stock.
I dont know much about American V8 shaped engines, but nice to know things about Scania engine is that the camshaft is whitin the block (OHV), each piston has it's own head and the cooling system has 2 thermostats.
Ah, Renault Magnum... When it came out we had a underpowered motorhome. Every time a Magnum with it's suspended cabin appeared in the rear view mirror, I tought PacMan was chasing me! 🤪
Mach v8 and Scania v8 is the same in 70s and 80s think 90a too
so it's a pushrod V8?
@@blockstacker5614 yes, it is
A lot you point out on the Scania is not really standard. Like a lot of the lichts, the deck and the interior is all custom. The side-scirts are optional like the air-ride. But you should really check out a modern European truck. Big steps were made over the past 20 years!
We run trailers with as much weight as in Amerika but our trucks are much shorter because if the truck is shorter than the trailer can get bigger. Them max length is 18,5m or so don't remember the exact length. But the weight can go up to 50 metric tons without the need for extra permits and such. Fun fact it's also mandatory to have a mirror so you can see people in front of your truck in Europe😆
both beautiful workhorses.Interesting video sir
In Europe a Drive Axle can carry 12'500 kg which is 28000 pounds and the total weight of a 2 axle truck and 3 axle semi-trailer combo is 40 tonnes which are 88000 pounds. There are some countries that allow up to 60 tonnes which are about 126000 pounds. I hope this helps and sorry for my bad English :)
The weight limit for the whole combination was increased in Sweden to 74 tonnes a few years ago. The general length limit is 24 meters or 25,25 meters for some combinations but later this year 34,5 meters will be allowed on some roads. Finland already allow 76 tonnes and 34,5 meters length.
We have trucks with totally 10 axles and a total weight of 76 tonnes here in Finland, length 34.5 meters.....
Even in Canada we allow 63,500 kg (140,000 lb), with a 27.5 m length limit for B-tains without a permit. It's the US that likes the half-weight trucks.
My 81 k100 had 4 bag air ride plus air ride on the cab. It also had a air dump switch on the dash which was installed at the factory.
Ford had a four air bag air ride on the cab back to the 1970s.
if you lowered or raised the air lift on the Scania you can press the green button to reset it to travel height. dont forget to clean the oil spinner when you do the service.
Really interesting comparison - greetings from UK 👍🙂
Scania all the way for me! The Scania R770 once had the world record for most powerful factory made truck at 770hp. And when it comes to axles,
alot and I mean alot as in 9 of 10 trucks I see in central Sweden. Are tag axled trucks (where the rear axle can be lifted). Rarely have I seen powered tandem drives. But the single rear axles are less common for my area. When you see one it's normally foreign trucks.
Remember some KT8s running around . But it was also 40 years ago …
Scania has most powerful engine, but Sisu hybrid truck is 900hp, but engine alone is 625hp.
@@shermandaniel8285
I'm sorry but what on earth is KT8? Am I supposed to know that? All I get is shoes and forklifts for that on Google🤣
@@JuhaLehtinen
The new record holder for the most powerful production truck belongs to SHACMAN X6000. With their 800hp cummins Diesel V8.
Cummins KT series 800hp . @@MattiAntsuK
Should be a button on the remote if you press it it will level out to correct ride height
it is
The green one
Super interesting, thx!
Btw; unplug fuse 1 under the dash on passangerside... it disables the limiter and it goes right out of the clock
The American cab-over style is my favorite look on a truck so I'd absolutely drive it. I don't always love the European look on a lot of brands but I do happen to love Scania's style, so I'd be happy with either to be honest.
For comparison it would be better if they used a Scania from the Nordic countries though as boggie axles (with lift) are standard here because of the weather changes and winter roads.
When I was in the Army in the 80's & 90's, I drove a Volvo F16. It had a similar gearbox to your Scania. Yes you have to use the clutch to change gears as it's air assisted and syncro mesh.
But you said when splitting the gear, you had to move the gear stick in and out of gear, I used to preselect the split (up or down), and it wouldn't change gears until you actually depressed the clutch. Try giving that a go.
Love your videos...
Both super cool !
As someone from the UK 🇬🇧 I would pick the American truck over the Scania any day, look and sound way better !!
About the speed of the trucks. They are geared very differently, especially in the higher gears. Scania has been limited to 90km/h from the factory so the gearing has been optimized for those speeds and considering fuel efficiency also. Also that particular scania does not represent a stock factory scania at all. That interior and most of the exterior are completely custom.
Note…. When using the the splitter you pre select then just depress the clutch to change, you don’t need to move out of gate and back in again …. Give it a go👍🏻
I drove trucks on both sides of the ocean, even delivered the Freightliner cabovers to the port of New Jersey to be shipped to Australia, as for safety, high speed stability or cornering a Scania cabover cannot touch an American truck, the Euro trucks are built for congested European roads and city's where sometimes your concern is not to run over bycicles, thats where a Scania shines, but real long haul i take an American truck regardless of brand or cabover or conventional, my humble opinion😅
That Detroit inline 6 sounds amazing!
You're the absolute first to compare both trucks side by side. I've been through many truck shows here in the Netherlands and got a good look at some American trucks but to actually see it from an overseas perspective was refreshing.
"it only goes 60" lol so now i know nobody has mentioned the scania easter egg. when on the highway and hitting the limiter turn the ignition key off and on again quickly, it trips out the limiter for about 30 seconds, once the limiter comes back and you are not accelerating anymore, trip it again and youll still accelerate. we used to get 80 on a straight motorway and 90 down hill!!!
At 7:44 "Lion bird looking thing."
It's called a Griffin. 🤣🤣
Love the comparison but there is something else you need to consider.
1- The American truck has been properly maintained
2- The Dutch truck looks like it has been through war.
Coming from Germany I was actually shocked at generally the level of what is sold over here as the norm compared to what is normal in Europe. I can see things in stores here, that I last saw in Eastern germany when I lived behind the iron curtain.. old electric stoves, american windows, faucets,etc. Even European carmakers downgrade their car features for the north american market because they can. So yeah, not surprised in the slightest, even though that Scania has a remarkably ugly interior 😁
American workers have no rights so I guess that's why. You're not happy? Well don't come back tomorrow.
That scania interior is not standard. The normal is gray like the dash.
Americans never demanded to have amazing interior for cars. Maybe if Europe bordered the US and we compared cars all the time, things would've changed faster. 🤔 Us Americans are always amazed at how Europeans don't have air conditioners as the norm in your houses. Crazy. 😋
For 10 years, Chinese will say that when they come to Germany 😂
Im sorry for Europe, but this politics with no politics kiling europe, specially Germany, you have bunch of idiots running country. And they will destroy Germany. Merkel was trying to make Germany free from usa and gb ocupation (1945-2023 you count how many years) , and some negotiations about that was going. But those now, i just can't believe who leads Germany into gender green future 😂
I drive truck true the europe 20years, lot of things are changing from good to bad.
@@Northanteusbecause in most countries you don't need them and even if most people don't like constant air-condition because it messes with your circulation and the mucus membranes in nose or throat
In europe 4x2 tractor units with a 3 axle trialer can operate at 40,000kg (88,000lbs). Your scania would look great with a tag-axle, alloy wheels and a pair of 6 inch stacks. Stick in a new set of bushes in the cab suspension and it'll make it much smoother.
In Belgium 44 ton
@@pattersonpi3027 and Norway 50 ton 😊
@@trondhalvorsen3331 I knew that Scandinavian countries and the Netherlands had the highest tonnage , but not the axact numbers
Here in Finland we have biggest rigs in Europe. Maximum gross weight is 76 metric tons (167551 lbs), maximum lenght 34,5 meters (113 feet) and maximum height 4,4 meters (14 feet 5 inches).
68 tons is maximum here with one drive axle and 8 axels total, or 9 axels if there's only single wheels in trailer(s). 76 tons need two drive axels and at least 9 axels total, or 11 axels if there's only single wheels in trailer(s). Engine power must be at least 5 kW/ton (~6,7 hp/ton).
With these HCT rigs (High Capacity Transport) I prefer Volvo tractors because of they are so easy to manouveur. Electric power steering makes it possible to steer with only one finger even in tight corners. It's possible to adjust axle weights betveen drive axles or even lift up and cut off power from the rear drive axle when empty or light load that makes turning much more easier when reversing 34,5 meter long A-train.
I like both trucks, stil drive a scania r620 v8 here but a oldschool us cabover looks good
Apart from the Longline. That was the best bunk layout Scania ever did. It was a short run though. They reverted to a pull out bunk behind the seats. The V8 is bombproof all be it a bit thirsty. That unit with a 3 axle trailer would run at 41tons across Europe.
A quite important thing not to forget later when you're going to do an oil service on the Scania, is to take apart the centrifugal oil cleaner and clean it too, don't just change the oil and filters and think you're done.
And the quickest/easiest way to refill the engine with oil when doing the service is to pour it down into the centrifugal oil cleaner housing before you put centrifugal back in.
Only works on V8s and Pre Next gen i6 engines. Newer one got the centrifugals below
I learned to drive in a international cabover back in 1989. I can agree with the fact there is no room in American cabovers as i an 6'4".
Even some hooded trucks still to me didn't have enough leg room.. But i dont have to worry about that anymore as i can no longer drive do to bad heatlh.
Thanks for sharing this video doing the comparison between the two different trucks. It was interesting to see some of the things they did across the pond even back then.
Keep up with the awesome content Sir an be safe. ✌️❤️🙏
I can't imagine you being in a gmc crackerbox. 😂
Nope never had the chance to drive one of those. But I did drive a old GMC dump truck for about a year. It did have some leg room .
Ok but my uncle has and drives a blue and white 1980 International transtar 2 which where going to the truck show in Missouri,Joplin U.S
What got me hooked on driving a big truck was in the mid 70's one of my uncles drive a Mack cabover and he took his boys an myself for a ride in it an I thought I was on top of the world then.
I have always loved the European cabovers. They have so much personality
abt as much personality as my refrigerator maybe.
Tandem drive is nice not sure about anywhere else but in B.C. Canada most logging trucks, low beds, and straight trucks working on rigs or hauling gravel are going to tri drives with full lockers. only real issue with the tri drive is when it is fully locked up on a slippery road they tend to want to go straight.
The new Scanias and Volvos are so comfortable and effortless to drive. Large horse power engines too. Idk how good they be for pulling trucks though.
I can tell you nothing pulls like a Scania. The Scania in the video is old and even though they ate legendary as regards reliability she is probably missing a few horses at this stage but great to see the interest in it in the U.S
The new Scanias are absolute beasts with the most powerful one with 770 hours as standard.
@@martinstewart5205 Be great to see one in an American pulling race. I use to drive a car transporter and we'd pick up new cars from the wharf. I'd often drive the brand new trucks amongst other vehicles. Felt like a kid in a candy store to be honest 🤣A brand spanking new Volvo had I Shift and it was so effortless that I could turn the steering with one finger. This was 7 years ago. I still love me rugged Freightliner though👍💯😎
You know the states has air rijde to??
Brand new Volvo vs similar brand new Peterbilt or Kenworth or International or Freighliner are not much different. The Volvos are in general a little bit more light duty
@@martinstewart5205I had a 560 fuckin hell it was an animal the current fh I'm in is a decent tool tho
You can run 11.5 metric tons (~25,400 LB) on a single drive axle in most EU countries and 7.5 MT (~16,500 LB) on the steer (even more if you have wide tires and your axle is spec'd properly). And the standard gross weight in the EU is 40 MT (~88,400LB) on a standard 5 axle tractor trailer combination (seacan haulers can go up to 44MT ~ 97,000LB), which is higher than in the US.
In the uk it’s 44t on a 3 axle tractor and 3 axle trailer.
Which is not part of the EU anymore.
50MT max on dutch roads and with lzv permit its 60MT
In the US, single axles can carry 20,000 lbs (approximately 18,000kg) while tandem axles can carry up to 34,000 lbs (approximately 31,000kg). The weight limit is 80,000 lbs or roughly 36,000 kg.
Well, it all depends on the state but yes, in general the 20k/34/k/80k is a rule of thumb but your math is totally wrong. 20k lb is around 9k kg, 34k lb is around 15.4k kg, and 80k lb is 36.2k kg…
Waow, great video! This Flemish driver, now in Quebec, used to own an awesome Scania 143H, looong ago, in Belgium.
When I arriverd in Canada (2012) I noticed several "working" Scania's along the eastern seaboard, thanks to Abreu Truck Service in Newark NJ.
Iwrocker need this reaction video series. ❤
What i like about american trucks as a european is the materials used, way more metal and very little plastic. Also the sound the american truck door makes is so tacticle and satisfying 😁
American semi’s are made from aluminium and poly
@@aluminium3574 Alumin(i)um is a metal though.
You dont need to get out of gear to split. Just push the clutch and it shifts. :)
That Freightliner forgot her makeup in th 70's! That Scania cab was so ahead of it's time in -96 when it came out that the last face lift of it came out 2017! The cab air suspension was an option in the few first years. But the dash board cracked because of the stiffness. Then Scania changed it to standard equipment. Funny thing about the dash is that it's from it's predecessor 3-series Scania. Only the frame is new and tilted up compared to the 3-series. That bunk upstairs was wide but darn hot as the heat goes up. There is a lever for height and tilt adjustment for the steering wheel left side of the pole at your knee height. The lever works two ways unless it's stuck. Common failure. That Scania engine can be tuned up over 1000hp quite easily. In Finland we carry max load of 76 000kg on max 34,5m with 20 000kg(a40 000lbs) on double rear axle, with similar trucks than your Scania. Double semitrailers often. The tilted staircase was option first years. Abandoned totally due to not function so well in snow and shitty whether in Scandinavia. The lights in the bumper are not only fog lights. The outer ones are fog but the inner lights are actually high beams. Those extra high beams and deer catcher are aftermarket in Europe also. Factory extra high beams were carved inside the drop visor. That was for the better air stream. You don't have to shift to neutral to use splitter. It's broken if you have to.
The sun roof is an escape for the driver if it's ever in a ditch on its side. The model before the 144 , 143 the 144 and 164 were the heartbeat of Europe in the 1990s-2000s to date there are still many owner operators who run a 144 or 164 through Ireland into the UK or onto the continent. The 143 is considered a classic and belongs at shows her days of hard work are done.