My setup for automatic, hands-off battery backup for a sump pump using an Ecoflow River 2 Pro in conjunction with a Basement Watchdog 12v dual pump system.
Thanks for this video! I'm in the process of adding a backup to my sump pump, I was looking at the Liberty 441 backup sump pump system with the Watchdog battery that the local Plumpers recommend. Adding this Ecoflow River power station would definitely increase the capacity overall and allow me to use the eco-flow sometimes to go camping or to power other projects
One other thing you can do is to look into a 'Ting' which is offered free thru some insurance companies (in my case, State Farm). It monitors your 120V, looking for indicators that could be a fire hazard (arc's), brownouts, quick dips in the voltage, etc. But a side benefit is that it will send you a text message that your power is out (since it's not sending data back to the mother ship) and also when it is restored. So if you are on travel , shopping, etc, you will know your house is powered or not. I have a whole house Generac and incredibly, it was even able to realize the generator turned on during an outage. I was seriously impressed (and I'm an electrical engineer). How well will it spot micro arcs, etc...I can't vouch for that.
That's interesting...thanks for the info! I'm not familiar with a "ting," but I might look into them. I kind of already get a notice because I have various "smart" devices (cameras, thermostat..etc.) that text and email me when the power goes out because I lose wifi.
@@MrNiceguy259 I also use a Zooz ZEN15 (Z-wave via SmartThings hub) to monitor the sump pump current, how long it runs, and how often it runs. The ZEN15 is a heavy duty device that's meant to handle high current loads like a sump motor. You can set it in SmartThings to never shut off (i.e. the output is always on). I was leery of using anything that might break, but it seems to be the 'go to' device that people use to monitor a sump pump. By monitoring sump pump current, I'll be able to spot any issues before they become serious (hopefully!).
Thats a good solution to keep the main pump alive for a little while longer. Ive ran our old main pump (1/3 hp) on a 1500va APC ups in the past. It did the job for the few times the pump had to cycle.
Thanks for this video!!! I just hooked up my Ecoflow Delta 2 (with the P04 battery good for a stated 3000 full recharges) as my primary backup and it’s working flawlessly!
Just some quick things to check here, make sure that the inverter on the Eco Flow is set to never turn itself off under no load. This way it wont turn off after a period of no use. Also might be worth for the health of the battery (if you’re thinking of keeping it for 10years+) to set the max charge to 80-90%. And to cycle it down to 30% once a month or so. Edit: In UPS mode the inverter timeout might in inapplicable.
Thanks for the tips! I do have the unit set to never time-out, and I have charge/discharge limits set at 95% and 2%. I probably should allow it to cycle down more often.
Thanks for great video sir! I just bought a 1500w inverter with a 200amp deep cycle battery for my second pump. Have not hooked up yet. I just saw your video and now I’m more inclined to get the ecoflow. My question is what is the shelf life for the deepcycle battery if the power only goes out once a year? We don’t lose power much but I live in a high water table therefore sump pump is critical. Do I need to buy a battery charger to charge the battery once a year?
May I ask why you prefer to use a lead acid battery instead of a lithium battery? You could literally buy a 200 amp hour battery for under $500 and it would extend your time for over one week easily. You could literally go on a trip around the world if you got a 300ah or larger battery. I do like your system set up . I don't have a sump pump but am waiting for the manual transfer which you displayed. We have power failures all the time here in Texas and I am going to use it with a 5KW server rack battery and a 3KW inverter / charger from EG4. I'm building it to be portable using a hand truck or dolly as some people call it. You have a beautiful basement.
The Basement Watchdog system comes with the lead acid battery. That system is around 10 years old but still working great. The addition of the Ecoflow just gives me extended run time on the primary pump.
Great question. I thought about doing that. The main reason I wanted to go this route is because this way, my primary pump will still run first. The 12v backup pump seems to work ok, but it rarely has to run, so I don't trust it as much. Plus, it's not as strong as the primary. I got a good deal on the Ecoflow at $429, so I felt it was worth it to keep the primary pump running during an outage.
I tried that with my Ridgid RBBS sump system and the charger didn't like the additional battery, maybe because it was an AGM and the other was a SLA. It never seemed to go to a trickle charge (wall transformer was very warm).
You could also buy additional deep cycle batteries and run them in parallel and save yourself a ton of dough and a longer time off grid with LifePo4 batteries.
Thanks for this video! I'm in the process of adding a backup to my sump pump, I was looking at the Liberty 441 backup sump pump system with the Watchdog battery that the local Plumpers recommend. Adding this Ecoflow River power station would definitely increase the capacity overall and allow me to use the eco-flow sometimes to go camping or to power other projects
Great idea! I'm considering doing this for my mom because anytime the power goes out the sump pump becomes an immediate stress point for her.
Could you please make a video with details on how to set up and what equipment you use for automatic on
One other thing you can do is to look into a 'Ting' which is offered free thru some insurance companies (in my case, State Farm). It monitors your 120V, looking for indicators that could be a fire hazard (arc's), brownouts, quick dips in the voltage, etc. But a side benefit is that it will send you a text message that your power is out (since it's not sending data back to the mother ship) and also when it is restored. So if you are on travel , shopping, etc, you will know your house is powered or not.
I have a whole house Generac and incredibly, it was even able to realize the generator turned on during an outage. I was seriously impressed (and I'm an electrical engineer). How well will it spot micro arcs, etc...I can't vouch for that.
That's interesting...thanks for the info! I'm not familiar with a "ting," but I might look into them. I kind of already get a notice because I have various "smart" devices (cameras, thermostat..etc.) that text and email me when the power goes out because I lose wifi.
@@MrNiceguy259 I also use a Zooz ZEN15 (Z-wave via SmartThings hub) to monitor the sump pump current, how long it runs, and how often it runs. The ZEN15 is a heavy duty device that's meant to handle high current loads like a sump motor. You can set it in SmartThings to never shut off (i.e. the output is always on). I was leery of using anything that might break, but it seems to be the 'go to' device that people use to monitor a sump pump. By monitoring sump pump current, I'll be able to spot any issues before they become serious (hopefully!).
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Thats a good solution to keep the main pump alive for a little while longer. Ive ran our old main pump (1/3 hp) on a 1500va APC ups in the past. It did the job for the few times the pump had to cycle.
I bought two of the Anker 767’s, as they have 2 kW apiece and UPS back up!
you can also add 1000 W of solar to keep them charged up!
Thanks for this video!!! I just hooked up my Ecoflow Delta 2 (with the P04 battery good for a stated 3000 full recharges) as my primary backup and it’s working flawlessly!
Just some quick things to check here, make sure that the inverter on the Eco Flow is set to never turn itself off under no load. This way it wont turn off after a period of no use. Also might be worth for the health of the battery (if you’re thinking of keeping it for 10years+) to set the max charge to 80-90%. And to cycle it down to 30% once a month or so.
Edit: In UPS mode the inverter timeout might in inapplicable.
Thanks for the tips! I do have the unit set to never time-out, and I have charge/discharge limits set at 95% and 2%. I probably should allow it to cycle down more often.
@@MrNiceguy259how do you program it to cycle down and the other suggestions above?
What is UPS mode?
Thanks for great video sir! I just bought a 1500w inverter with a 200amp deep cycle battery for my second pump. Have not hooked up yet. I just saw your video and now I’m more inclined to get the ecoflow. My question is what is the shelf life for the deepcycle battery if the power only goes out once a year? We don’t lose power much but I live in a high water table therefore sump pump is critical. Do I need to buy a battery charger to charge the battery once a year?
May I ask why you prefer to use a lead acid battery instead of a lithium battery? You could literally buy a 200 amp hour battery for under $500 and it would extend your time for over one week easily. You could literally go on a trip around the world if you got a 300ah or larger battery. I do like your system set up . I don't have a sump pump but am waiting for the manual transfer which you displayed. We have power failures all the time here in Texas and I am going to use it with a 5KW server rack battery and a 3KW inverter / charger from EG4. I'm building it to be portable using a hand truck or dolly as some people call it. You have a beautiful basement.
The Basement Watchdog system comes with the lead acid battery. That system is around 10 years old but still working great. The addition of the Ecoflow just gives me extended run time on the primary pump.
Was wondering why not just get another battery for the watchdog system and run parallel ? might of been cheaper and possibly more watt hours .
Great question. I thought about doing that. The main reason I wanted to go this route is because this way, my primary pump will still run first. The 12v backup pump seems to work ok, but it rarely has to run, so I don't trust it as much. Plus, it's not as strong as the primary. I got a good deal on the Ecoflow at $429, so I felt it was worth it to keep the primary pump running during an outage.
I tried that with my Ridgid RBBS sump system and the charger didn't like the additional battery, maybe because it was an AGM and the other was a SLA. It never seemed to go to a trickle charge (wall transformer was very warm).
You could also buy additional deep cycle batteries and run them in parallel and save yourself a ton of dough and a longer time off grid with LifePo4 batteries.
Aren’t marine batteries like $300 each though? This is $450 on sale
get a cable to go from your battery to ecoflow and your doubled.
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