People are still trying to defend it. Saying to just not use fencing until they fix it. "Just don't use it" Just don't play the awful new operation or any chaos missions. Just endlessly play inferno hive tyrant or the other Tyranid missions. Just don't care how lazy the dark angel cosmetics are.
@clevergoblin1714 Give it a week or two. This tone will shift. And yes I will make a "I told you so" video. The honeymoon phase still isn't fully over yet
Odd thought just hit me, since it seems the majority of people never touch Lethal, have you tried a mission on the "normie" difficulties? Just curious if the worst of the problems aren't as glaring on Easy mode and that's why so many are praising this stuff.
@@requiemagent3014 Easy mode, as in Average difficulty or substantial. I imagine that's the difficulty the normie players stick to. Was just watching streamers to get the stupid twitch drops because they're a limited time thing and had to waste 2 hours watching morons. A lot of the people I looked into are beyond blind to the actual problems of the game, thinking fencing is perfect where it's at now (broken) and thinking Gunstrikes that leave you vulnerable to damage is a good thing. Thinking the game is super balanced while dying to a Zoanthrope because they didn't have the ammo to kill it. Players praising the game just seem to be easily impressed..
same bullshit as always. Can't buff one thing without nerfing something else so it's not "overpowered". I'm so sick of game companies pulling this shit instead of just making their game better overall. Make all the weapons better and then balance around enemy spawn rates and types to up the challenge otherwise you're just making the weapons worse for the sake of it.
Like I said the grenade launcher is a way for Saber to jingle some keys in front of the redditors. So they ignore all the other problems the game has. I am not even disagree with the assessment it's too strong. But it should be very low on the priority list.
One step forward two steps back should've left fencing as it was and buffed other types. You cant do anything now when you get hit by multiple majoris.
Staggering how many "WOW, best patch EVAR!" Channels are praising this fluff. Had to fire up my beloved 7 Days To Die and patch 1.2 in order to wash the taste out of my metaphorical mouth. This is what I get for having hope, I really thought THIS was the 40k game that would set the standard and bring us years of entertainment.
@@eloquentsarcasm Problem is I cannot make more videos about this. Three is already stretching it. I am planning on covering the fencing issue tomorrow. Because this is really bad. Worse than I thought. I did a solo lethal run on ballistics engine and it was so bad I did not expect this. I have no idea how anyone can praise this patch
Heh, at least you're on console and can PLAY the bloody thing. A patch breaking MOUSE controls is beyond unacceptable. Saber has ZERO QC, none of these issues should have made it past initial in-house testing.
@@requiemagent3014just turn your camera face the enemy don’t get surrounded parrying works great on my average gameplay. These are all Reddit tips the hot fix patch will not bring fencing back and if it does patch 6 or 7 will finally kill it mark my words brother
I have another bug: My interact but only works when sprinting. Also with Assault the interact button wastes my jump pack charge! Only a few ppl are reporting this but it's really f-ing up my love for this game
When the first Mouse failure happened to me, I almost tried to change the batteries in the middle of the attack from Big Z. When Brother started texting me, "Tap Alt-Tab Brother," I did and barely made it alive with almost no HP left. My controls are also messed up, and after getting new Nvidia drivers, my background starts flashing in-game. It's an untested patch, I guess.
I have been playing lethal and have been getting killed quite often. My bulwark doesnt feel as good anymore. Tactical felt ok. Got a couple clears in on lethal last night but im glad to hear other people are struggling with the power sword and its not just me. I still enjoy playing and all but im there with ya guys. Really want to see the game succeed but they need to get with program
Tbf to Saber the community is dogshit, they think everything needs to be hard as possible, they have no issue with bolters feeling like water pistols, they’re fine with the game being nothing but rolling, they’re fine with stun lock. Seriously go even try to mention these things need fixing on the Reddit or the other community forums and it’s just nothing but try hards who think it’s fun to pump a whole magazine into a single low level enemy. Let’s be real, the 40k community don’t play video games, they have idea how they work of how balance works, they’re just like the ppl who play tabletop today… obsessed with numbers and fine with a single turn taking 20 minutes. These people are anti fun. Edit: re the operation, chaos are boring. They need a rework or just abandon chaos content. Seriously, it reminds me of when they removed the covenant from halo4 and replaced them with knights. Just a boring enemy to fight
Bro you are the realest sm2 content creator I got murdered on Reddit for saying they will kill this game. I will never understand nerfs in a pve hoard shooter buff or rework all the crappy stuff.
@@Acerbase Thanks brother. I just say it how it is. This content drought is not sustainable for the game. The realization is going to hit reddit sooner or later. Rather they like it or not
@ The thing people aren’t talking about is making people watch twitch for content they should already have or receive by paying for the ultra or gold additions of the game.
@@Acerbase Saber has sponsored some content creators to cover this patch. I saw some sponsored videos about it. Obviously on low difficulty with people who haven't touched this game since release
This patch is bullshit. You kill a wave of 1000000 enemies just to see 3sec later the next wave comes… the bugs and nerfs are bullshit too. I got the feeling with every patch this game got worse
I was bitching hard yesterday about connectivity and the fencing weapons. Today connectivity was better and I could actually play more than one march. The fencing power sword is ASS now but the fencing chainsword only seems slightly worse? I can’t figure out how they fucked all this up the way they did. It’s like letting a child cook. “This tastes like shit WTF did you put in the pot Jimmy?!”
So fencing had a parry window bonus but was a little weaker then balance and power. But that was for people that liked the melee game and were more hand to hand. 5.0 they removed the parry bonus completely so it’s pointless to even have in the game or use. Further, they reduced the radius around you in which you can parry so you get hit and staggered waaaay more now. Even further they upped enemy damage across the board while nerfing youre defensive parry abilities making survival much more difficult now. They also altered the animations and added frames so it altered the timing on a lot of enemy attacks we all had down for 100s of hours of gameplay. It’s a whole combination of shit that ultimately broke the entire melee combat part of the game.
@ interesting you say enemies hit harder. I didn’t notice it at all on bulwark but when playing sniper on Ruthless yesterday it felt like 1 hit from a Major or even 3 gants jumping at me simultaneously broke my shield and dropped my health down 50-75%. I would have to go back and verify but there were several times I was surprised my health was getting low because I barely got hit (from whiffing fucking parries)
Ive tried to make Block Weapons work on a few different builds but no luck yet. Block and the perfect Block Mechanic are not very good because you need to perfect block three times to build up an adrenaline charge which, if Block had a generous Blovk window might not be too bad, but the perfect block has the smallest fucking window of any of the weapon types so it gets difficult. Not only that, but Blocking does 0 damage to your enemy so if you are on the back foot, getting swarmed by enemies, and also getting shot by ranged Tyranids at the same time, its mega important to be able to Defend yourself AND damage the enemy at the same which can turn the tide in your favor. Not only that but parrying ONE time usually results in getting and armor back via gun strike or parrying minoris but you'd have to block three times to do that and you'd probably be dead by then in lethal.
@@BrentCox2B I said this a million times already but Saber never test their ideas on lethal. Those developers are spreadsheet warriors. I would bet money on the fact nobody in this studio has ever finished a solo lethal run. So stuff like this flies straight over their head.
Bought the game like 3 days ago not knowing about any of the issues. Made it to the second campaign mission and the game crashes and I get a driver timeout as soon as the cutscene starts for archmagos. Not to mention making me restart my pc after it does that since it bricks my drivers. Thanks Sabre 🙏🏼
@@Astorrin If you are only interested in playing the campaign solo you can just downgrade the game. At least you should be able to do that on steam. Patch 4.1 was pretty stable.
@@requiemagent3014i appreciate the info my man, I might give that a try this weekend. Had to unplug my second monitor just to make the game stop freezing during the first mission. Would just be like a visual freeze for a half second but it was happening a LOT. Stopped after I only had one monitor plugged in. But like fr dude a game like this shouldn’t be FULLY crashing my $2k rig to the point where it just shut off completely at one point
To many people using the one type of weapon nerf try and forced you to you blocking weapons by disabling parry impute they think we're stupid and call it a bug fixed in a day come on really
I agree that these missions are cut content from the main story mode. They both feel a bit off to me in terms of gameplay wise vs the other operation missions. But it could be that I’m entering fatigue since I played this religiously since its release. This new operation is so boring to me and I don’t understand why 1 of 3 characters have to be handicapped at all in this operation. Not to mention the bio titan mission as well. It’s dumb to me and not fun. Hold the targeting device as a sidearm and never switch to your main until you’ve fired 3 shots in bio titan and now holding a lit up chalice in one hand only while you use a sidearm and kick your way through the shittiest enemy in the game to play against…chaos. Just a little disappointing this patch is. Also I haven’t heard anything new come down the pipe for PvP mode. Just weird they are letting that lay dormant. Idk. 🤷
@@boldfacedred1023 oh I have 500 hours in this game. More even I think. I literally have to force myself to keep playing. But yes the last two operations are super gimmicky. But at least Termination was good outside the boss fight. Obelisk is just bad overall
They ruined Killing floor 2 although Tripwire greenlighted the "balance" changes. Saber Pushed them and wanted them after Tripwire stopped caring about Killng Floor 2. WW2 that flopped and now they are runing Space marine 2? not a suprise Saber just sucks.
@@CaptainSAWB5 I am working on a very big video essay about Saber. But it's a big project. It won't be ready in December. But I go over all of their questionable work so far.
They straight up ruined the parry system. Just not fun to play anymore because they made fencing pointless to use and killed the melee game. And at the same time introduced the block system which is just…trash
Yeah, man. This patch was pretty shit. I’m from Brazil, and this game is so expensive here, there are not many persons playing the game. Which means, I usually have to wait soooo long to find a game and after the patch its taking much longer Lmao. And I play on PC, the mouse glitch sucks and the fencing weapon is the same thing that having a balanced one 😑
It is more than likely over for the game. I give it a week. Two at best. Thanks Saber. I hate it
People are still trying to defend it. Saying to just not use fencing until they fix it. "Just don't use it"
Just don't play the awful new operation or any chaos missions. Just endlessly play inferno hive tyrant or the other Tyranid missions.
Just don't care how lazy the dark angel cosmetics are.
@clevergoblin1714 Give it a week or two. This tone will shift. And yes I will make a "I told you so" video. The honeymoon phase still isn't fully over yet
Odd thought just hit me, since it seems the majority of people never touch Lethal, have you tried a mission on the "normie" difficulties? Just curious if the worst of the problems aren't as glaring on Easy mode and that's why so many are praising this stuff.
@@eloquentsarcasm I guess I could try. Has been a long time since I played ruthless
@@requiemagent3014 Easy mode, as in Average difficulty or substantial. I imagine that's the difficulty the normie players stick to.
Was just watching streamers to get the stupid twitch drops because they're a limited time thing and had to waste 2 hours watching morons. A lot of the people I looked into are beyond blind to the actual problems of the game, thinking fencing is perfect where it's at now (broken) and thinking Gunstrikes that leave you vulnerable to damage is a good thing. Thinking the game is super balanced while dying to a Zoanthrope because they didn't have the ammo to kill it. Players praising the game just seem to be easily impressed..
same bullshit as always. Can't buff one thing without nerfing something else so it's not "overpowered". I'm so sick of game companies pulling this shit instead of just making their game better overall. Make all the weapons better and then balance around enemy spawn rates and types to up the challenge otherwise you're just making the weapons worse for the sake of it.
Like I said the grenade launcher is a way for Saber to jingle some keys in front of the redditors. So they ignore all the other problems the game has. I am not even disagree with the assessment it's too strong. But it should be very low on the priority list.
Yes they’re making the helldivers mistake.
One step forward two steps back should've left fencing as it was and buffed other types. You cant do anything now when you get hit by multiple majoris.
Staggering how many "WOW, best patch EVAR!" Channels are praising this fluff. Had to fire up my beloved 7 Days To Die and patch 1.2 in order to wash the taste out of my metaphorical mouth. This is what I get for having hope, I really thought THIS was the 40k game that would set the standard and bring us years of entertainment.
@@eloquentsarcasm Problem is I cannot make more videos about this. Three is already stretching it. I am planning on covering the fencing issue tomorrow. Because this is really bad. Worse than I thought. I did a solo lethal run on ballistics engine and it was so bad I did not expect this. I have no idea how anyone can praise this patch
Heh, at least you're on console and can PLAY the bloody thing. A patch breaking MOUSE controls is beyond unacceptable. Saber has ZERO QC, none of these issues should have made it past initial in-house testing.
So many glazers bro
@@requiemagent3014just turn your camera face the enemy don’t get surrounded parrying works great on my average gameplay. These are all Reddit tips the hot fix patch will not bring fencing back and if it does patch 6 or 7 will finally kill it mark my words brother
@@Acerbase Those tips are all horrible. Who would have thought redditors are bad at this game
darktide still going strong
@@Peppermintnull With the PS5 launch and everything. Hard to disagree
Learned nothing from Helldivers lmao!
Looks like Helldivers and darktide are gonna remain my horde shooters for now. maybe ill get this on sale later just for campaign one day
I have another bug: My interact but only works when sprinting. Also with Assault the interact button wastes my jump pack charge! Only a few ppl are reporting this but it's really f-ing up my love for this game
I have to be honest I wasn't aware of this either. Thanks for sharing
When the first Mouse failure happened to me, I almost tried to change the batteries in the middle of the attack from Big Z. When Brother started texting me, "Tap Alt-Tab Brother," I did and barely made it alive with almost no HP left. My controls are also messed up, and after getting new Nvidia drivers, my background starts flashing in-game. It's an untested patch, I guess.
I have been playing lethal and have been getting killed quite often. My bulwark doesnt feel as good anymore. Tactical felt ok. Got a couple clears in on lethal last night but im glad to hear other people are struggling with the power sword and its not just me. I still enjoy playing and all but im there with ya guys. Really want to see the game succeed but they need to get with program
Tbf to Saber the community is dogshit, they think everything needs to be hard as possible, they have no issue with bolters feeling like water pistols, they’re fine with the game being nothing but rolling, they’re fine with stun lock.
Seriously go even try to mention these things need fixing on the Reddit or the other community forums and it’s just nothing but try hards who think it’s fun to pump a whole magazine into a single low level enemy.
Let’s be real, the 40k community don’t play video games, they have idea how they work of how balance works, they’re just like the ppl who play tabletop today… obsessed with numbers and fine with a single turn taking 20 minutes. These people are anti fun.
Edit: re the operation, chaos are boring. They need a rework or just abandon chaos content. Seriously, it reminds me of when they removed the covenant from halo4 and replaced them with knights. Just a boring enemy to fight
Bro you are the realest sm2 content creator I got murdered on Reddit for saying they will kill this game. I will never understand nerfs in a pve hoard shooter buff or rework all the crappy stuff.
@@Acerbase Thanks brother. I just say it how it is. This content drought is not sustainable for the game. The realization is going to hit reddit sooner or later. Rather they like it or not
@ The thing people aren’t talking about is making people watch twitch for content they should already have or receive by paying for the ultra or gold additions of the game.
@@Acerbase Saber has sponsored some content creators to cover this patch. I saw some sponsored videos about it. Obviously on low difficulty with people who haven't touched this game since release
This patch is bullshit. You kill a wave of 1000000 enemies just to see 3sec later the next wave comes… the bugs and nerfs are bullshit too. I got the feeling with every patch this game got worse
I was bitching hard yesterday about connectivity and the fencing weapons. Today connectivity was better and I could actually play more than one march. The fencing power sword is ASS now but the fencing chainsword only seems slightly worse? I can’t figure out how they fucked all this up the way they did. It’s like letting a child cook. “This tastes like shit WTF did you put in the pot Jimmy?!”
@@Sinsofcarolina I love that analogy. I might steal it haha
So fencing had a parry window bonus but was a little weaker then balance and power. But that was for people that liked the melee game and were more hand to hand. 5.0 they removed the parry bonus completely so it’s pointless to even have in the game or use. Further, they reduced the radius around you in which you can parry so you get hit and staggered waaaay more now. Even further they upped enemy damage across the board while nerfing youre defensive parry abilities making survival much more difficult now. They also altered the animations and added frames so it altered the timing on a lot of enemy attacks we all had down for 100s of hours of gameplay. It’s a whole combination of shit that ultimately broke the entire melee combat part of the game.
@ interesting you say enemies hit harder. I didn’t notice it at all on bulwark but when playing sniper on Ruthless yesterday it felt like 1 hit from a Major or even 3 gants jumping at me simultaneously broke my shield and dropped my health down 50-75%. I would have to go back and verify but there were several times I was surprised my health was getting low because I barely got hit (from whiffing fucking parries)
Ive tried to make Block Weapons work on a few different builds but no luck yet.
Block and the perfect Block Mechanic are not very good because you need to perfect block three times to build up an adrenaline charge which, if Block had a generous Blovk window might not be too bad, but the perfect block has the smallest fucking window of any of the weapon types so it gets difficult.
Not only that, but Blocking does 0 damage to your enemy so if you are on the back foot, getting swarmed by enemies, and also getting shot by ranged Tyranids at the same time, its mega important to be able to Defend yourself AND damage the enemy at the same which can turn the tide in your favor. Not only that but parrying ONE time usually results in getting and armor back via gun strike or parrying minoris but you'd have to block three times to do that and you'd probably be dead by then in lethal.
@@BrentCox2B I said this a million times already but Saber never test their ideas on lethal. Those developers are spreadsheet warriors. I would bet money on the fact nobody in this studio has ever finished a solo lethal run. So stuff like this flies straight over their head.
Bought the game like 3 days ago not knowing about any of the issues. Made it to the second campaign mission and the game crashes and I get a driver timeout as soon as the cutscene starts for archmagos. Not to mention making me restart my pc after it does that since it bricks my drivers. Thanks Sabre 🙏🏼
@@Astorrin If you are only interested in playing the campaign solo you can just downgrade the game. At least you should be able to do that on steam. Patch 4.1 was pretty stable.
@@requiemagent3014i appreciate the info my man, I might give that a try this weekend. Had to unplug my second monitor just to make the game stop freezing during the first mission. Would just be like a visual freeze for a half second but it was happening a LOT. Stopped after I only had one monitor plugged in. But like fr dude a game like this shouldn’t be FULLY crashing my $2k rig to the point where it just shut off completely at one point
To many people using the one type of weapon nerf try and forced you to you blocking weapons by disabling parry impute they think we're stupid and call it a bug fixed in a day come on really
I agree that these missions are cut content from the main story mode. They both feel a bit off to me in terms of gameplay wise vs the other operation missions. But it could be that I’m entering fatigue since I played this religiously since its release. This new operation is so boring to me and I don’t understand why 1 of 3 characters have to be handicapped at all in this operation. Not to mention the bio titan mission as well. It’s dumb to me and not fun. Hold the targeting device as a sidearm and never switch to your main until you’ve fired 3 shots in bio titan and now holding a lit up chalice in one hand only while you use a sidearm and kick your way through the shittiest enemy in the game to play against…chaos. Just a little disappointing this patch is. Also I haven’t heard anything new come down the pipe for PvP mode. Just weird they are letting that lay dormant. Idk. 🤷
@@boldfacedred1023 oh I have 500 hours in this game. More even I think. I literally have to force myself to keep playing.
But yes the last two operations are super gimmicky. But at least Termination was good outside the boss fight. Obelisk is just bad overall
thought the mouse thing was just me lol
@@LiesOfPaso No this is every person on PC. How this isn't front news everywhere is beyond me
They ruined Killing floor 2 although Tripwire greenlighted the "balance" changes. Saber Pushed them and wanted them after Tripwire stopped caring about Killng Floor 2. WW2 that flopped and now they are runing Space marine 2? not a suprise Saber just sucks.
@@CaptainSAWB5 I am working on a very big video essay about Saber. But it's a big project. It won't be ready in December. But I go over all of their questionable work so far.
@@requiemagent3014 I'll be waiting for it.
Yea they did ruin killing floor 2 it’s just sad
They straight up ruined the parry system. Just not fun to play anymore because they made fencing pointless to use and killed the melee game. And at the same time introduced the block system which is just…trash
Yeah the blocking may work in a 1vs1 but in 98% you are surrounded by 10000 enemies huh hit you 💁🏻♂️ so pretty useless.
they say mod support and then they remove it 🤦
Yeah, man. This patch was pretty shit. I’m from Brazil, and this game is so expensive here, there are not many persons playing the game. Which means, I usually have to wait soooo long to find a game and after the patch its taking much longer Lmao. And I play on PC, the mouse glitch sucks and the fencing weapon is the same thing that having a balanced one 😑
@@MarcoAntonio-bp6lu Alt tab fixes the mouse issue. But it's obviously not acceptable in the first place
@@requiemagent3014 Exactly. And that new Tzaangor man… Its so frustrating to fight them
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