This PROVES that Tubes are OVERRATED!
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- The Orange Super Crush is a unique amp that delivers a very impressive tone, and it's not based on ancient out of date tube technology! Get it at this Thomann Affiliate LInk: www.thomann.de/gb/orange_supe...
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Many thanks to @Mendelian for helping out on this one!
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Amp makers should add a "sparkly", "deep", and "warm" knob to every amp. They should also label every amp for which tonewood they're built for.
I need some tonewood IR plugins for my DAW
They wouldn't even have to be connected to anything and people would still "hear the difference" when they turned them
@@matiosmi137 I swear an amp company actually did this, I wanna say Marshall or VOX maybe? They added a knob, hooked it up to nothing and labeled it like "awesome" or something, so you could turn the awesome knob up. That wasn't the exact idea, but it was something similar I believe.
@Dude McGuybro : what brand? What amp? I want to see that.
And they should be required by law to disclose the year of manufacturing of their chips, so that real experts know whether the amp can actually sound any good or not.
I've always said that there is a place for solid state, but the tube bros would laugh at me. When I used to use an Ampeg VH140C, my band had banners in front of the amps so they couldn't be seen, and every once in a while a tube bro would ask me what amp I'm using when complimenting my tone, and their face when I told them it was solid state was priceless. A shitty amp is a shitty amp, and a good amp is a good amp regardless of whether or not it is tube, solid state, or modeling.
i used an ss140c with 2 4x12's for years...i had no less than 5 different soundmen offer to buy my rig lol
SPEAKERS
To be fair, even great speakers can't fix a shitty amp
There's a reason people still search out the VH140C!
Well said
I like it when a guitar player pulls out his vintage valve amp, slams the front of it with six pedals, then mics it to the PA and says "Gotta love that vintage valve tone, eh?!"
I only use boost pedals with my tube amps. Push the actual amp and a little character to it. Its shame seeing giant pedal boards being used on a tube amp. TS and a ratt is all I use.
I'm in a band with a gal who uses a small Orange amp and it keeps up with my 2x12 Marshall JCM800 somehow. Made me happy and sad at the same time.
I think the stigma against solid state amps comes from the fact that for a while all the beginner level practice amps were solid state with really shitty distortion, but when you think about it, distortion pedals are "solid state" distortion, so it's not any different from using a pedal.
This is exactly it. Solid state amps have come a LONG way. Solid state are getting their own sound. I love a good cranked tube amp but SS are sounding better than ever.
agreed. 2nd is over reliance of op amps for clean channel. the clean channel op amp have no clipping diodes in feed back loop. this means they hard clip when overdriven. In terms of cost this could be easily fix by using jfet for clean channel. only amp that does clean right with op amps is peavy transtube. most amp are still design like it early 1970s when jfet where more expensive and not well known.
Guitar players have double standards. They hate solid state amps because they don't like the distortion, but they also buy heavy distortion pedals, which are solid state.
There seems to be this thinking of “using a solid state pedal makes the amp solid state”, and thats not exactly whats going on. Tube guys like using overdrives because it makes the guitar hit the amp harder to drive the tubes even more. So no, its not making it solid state, its giving you MORE of what TUBES sound like. I have a $2000 friedman and a $70 marshal SS amp and I love them both, im not a boomer tube elitist or a tube hater, I just want to be knowledgable. @godzilla964
A huge part of a tube _preamp_ circuit is SS as well. That's all a pedal is; they're basically preamps.
But the output compression and feel of a tube amp is totally different than SS due to the necessity of much more powerful transformers required for tube power sections. SS amps have a very immediate response - no sag - in most every example. It's more of a feeling than a sound.
If you want that saggy compression you can *feel* in the strings, there are _very few_ SS amps that can deliver that tactile experience. The Super Crush is great sounding, and it basically stops there because it doesnt have the massive voltage swing necessary to create that sag.
I'm a huge SS amp lover, but facts are facts.
It's good to have a leftie in these videos to compare. The left hand is definitely a bit more sparkly than the right hand. I might have to learn to play both ways now so I can choose the hand sounds that's best for each situation.
Well, that's another level of tones 😂
Peter K. Rosenthal? Shouldn't you be reviewing movies for The Onion?
this is why i played lefty tbh
That sounds like those fools at the thegearpage would say.
When we were industrial noise punks we switched hands and it was like
"wow ! its just like before I could play the thing - KEWL!!!" ;)
Loved doing this vid with ya Glenn! 🤘🏾
Impressive skills holding the guitar while we get our faces melted with incredible riffs. Well done Glenn!
It's not so much that they're overrated, it's that there's lots of good tube amps, and only a few good solid states.
My favourite amp that I use now is a Quilter Superblock US. It's absolutely tiny, which is great for portability, it has a direct line out for recording, it has a cab sim, it has an attenuator system, and it does 3 very good Fender amp style sounds. It sounds absolutely amazing.
I love mine as well; it sounds great, takes up no room, can run on a 1-spot for lower wattage, and I just have one or two pedals in front - it's literally all I'll ever need.
I just ordered my daughter who lives out of state the combo version of this for Christmas.
She currently has been learning on one of those really tiny line 6 amps. This video helps reassure me that I made a good choice.
I actually have the predecessor to this amp, the Crush Pro 120. It's essentially the same thing as the Super Crush, although personally I like the Super Crush a bit more. Anyway- Several people have come to me after sets asking me about the amp, what model is it, what kinda tubes do I have, etc. I always love to put on a shit eating grin and tell em it's all solid state. I've also had a handful of sound guys set up my amp on stage and accidentally switch between channels because they think the channel selector is a standby switch. Fantastic amps all around.
For the doomheads out there the Crush Pro is typically a lot more sought after due to the thicker and sludgier sound you get when you really crank it. Too bad Orange only made such a short run of them and replaced them with the Super Crush, they're already becoming hard to obtain 😄
I've played both amps back to back and, while I think that both sound awesome, the super crush felt better to play to me. It has more of that sag or compression that make tube amps more appealing to me. Love the super crush!
I never liked the gain from the original crush. This new one is killer
The super crush is a bit unhinged I love it. The crush pro is definitely not as fun.
That amp does sounds fucking wicked. I really hope Orange and others keep pushing the edge tone-wise, as Glenn makes a good point. We don't need any more 5150's, Plexis, Dual-recs, etc. All that shit has been done to death. We need more interesting sounding amps!
Players take the lead, them we need more of.
Dude's a human delay pedal! Incredible phrasing all-round, too.
Have Rick on more often.
FYI - The Orange Super Crush 100 Head is $500 in the USA - I just checked Sweetwater for you. Available in orange or black box colors. Looks like Zzounds and Chicago Music Exchange as well...
I'd love to have one of these. I know everyone says tube amps are the way to go, but not replacing tubes is a huge bonus for me.
I’ve been waiting for this amp on this channel for ages! I bought one a while ago because I couldn’t wait any longer hahaha. But yeah, love it. You have to boost it with a Tubescreamer or something just to tighten it up a little but it’s great!
Hearing this demo, it sounds great. Really seems like all I needs is the lower end tightened up slightly, if you are going for that sort of tone. Overdrive would be perfect for that, other wise if you are playing more sludgy type metal, it sounds good as is for that.
I knew this already simply because the Roland Jazz Chorus has been a legendary clean amp for decades, even being used by Metallica on occasion and of course Dimebag predominantly used solid state Randalls throughout his career.
A lot of death metal bands used solid state peaveys, and those rockman headphone amps were on professional recordings back in the 80s.
And Brian may.
Dimebags tone sounded like a bag of shrill angry bees though
@@zs8784 he could’ve gotten his same sound if not better if he used a 5150. Im firmly convinced he either never tried it or no one showed him how to actually get good high gain tones from it
@@applesauceblues6952 Angry bees are the keys
What overdrive are yall using this sounds amazing. Can’t get mine to sound the same even with the same settings
This channel cannot have enough Mendel. Awesome player, cool dude.
best audio Ive heard from your channel, warm and soothing
also what was the cab/speaker used for this video ?
I am big fan of orange amps and I own the orange crush CR120 head with 2x12 cab the orange crush CR120 2x12 combo and the orange crush CR60 combo and I love them all. I own a few tube amps as well but I am always playing out of my orange amps as they are my main gigging and recording amps I use. I pretty much keep the tube amps around in the studio for someone else to play if they are a tube person. For me my orange amps are were it is at and they will be my go to amps for the foreseeable future. Glad to see you review this amp Glenn.
The Revstar with the Orange is a rig I'd have given my right eye for when I first started playing. Kids today are lucky.
Ive been a proud owner of a super crush 100 for 7 months now, switched to it from a Randall 1503212RG and I couldn't be happier, the Randall was an amazing amp but the orange just builds the distortion different. I don't know how else to explain it but I highly recommend the amp to anyone looking for a great solid state amp.
Ty Tabor used solid state in the 80s to produce his unique mid tone. He now uses the Super Crush.
A well designed SS amp sounds great. They became the whipping boy of the vintage snobs in the late 80s and were turned into the cheap alternative for the broke 16 yr old. There's some fine stuff that ZT and Henriksen make for jazzy clean play but the Super Crush has a much better gainy tone. 🤘🏼
I got a Super Crush 100 back in February just because of the internet buzz on it, and it is 100% the only piece of gear that has lived up to the hype for me. Absolutely love that beast of an amp.
I almost went for the crush, but ended up going for the Invective because of all the functionality.
@@felinekaiju4517 how are you finding the invective?
@@gazzaduce3424 I'm loving it, it's also a great pedal platform on the clean channel. It's so versatile, and with 9 midi programmable channel pre-set slots, it's essentially a 12 channel amp. I know a lot of people don't lile the noise gate, but I don't have a problem with it, and I only use the OD on the clean channel to push it into EOB. There's so much functionality in this amp, it's insane. I've not used the MSDI out, nor the parralell speaker outputs.
Ty Tabor of King’s X used Gibson Lab series amps for years, so rock players who are familiar with him know a great solid state circuit sounds excellent. Ty started using the solid state Orange amps several years ago, so it’s no surprise how nice they perform.
We have the crush pro100 here at the studio and it's criminally underrated. These are such solid amps for those who don't care about having to own a tube amp.
@Bloom Tik Bloom Meh, we record tube amps all the time for clients with heavy projects so that's actually what we would consider "ordinary" (5150, dual recs, Rockverbs etc). We actually shot this (crush pro) out against a rockverb before our session with stoner metal band Sonolith and it 100% holds it's own, just in a different way. The Rockverb couldn't tighten up on the low end as much as the crush and the crush didn't have the transient response of the Rockverb. So from where I'm sitting and my hands on experience, they're both just two different paintbrushes that an artist could use to sonically paint with. You can buy a Mercedes which is ranked last in consumer reports and spend twice as much as a Toyota which is ranked first in consumer reports, so I don't think the old chestnut "you get what you pay for" is really applicable as much these days. Just like most Mercedes owners won't admit there are other awesome options for cars that are cheaper, because the status of the car is what they are really paying for, most tube amp aficionado's will refuse to hear great tones from anything other than the holy valve because of the status associated with it.
@Bloom Tik Bloom terms like lofi and hifi are in reference to fidelity of a recorded sound being reproduced by 70's equipment (op amp powered receivers), not the initial sounds being produced by a heavily distorted guitar head (which is low fidelity by nature of the insane T.H.D. induced by the gain staging) as we are discussing here. Again they are different sounds, neither better than the other in all cases while each being better than the other in some cases.
I'm learning alot here and I drive a Jeep.
@Bloom Tik BloomAgain, we are talking hi gain distorted amps where a clear signal is being greatly distorted. The term as you are using it doesn't apply to this subject. I can't argue with your opinion about what difference you perceive in clarity, for all I know you have hearing loss that causes you to hear differently than me. I will say the "solid state is trash" fallacy being espoused here is easily disputed by the fact the the majority of the best preamps in the world used to record the best classic tones were all solid state. Neve, API and Solid State Logic (it's in the name lol) were responsible for amazing tones with their fat, transformer based saturation (just like a solid state amp). Back to my original point, the Orange solid state amps are killer if you aren't emotionally invested into thinking a tube is some sort of magic tone device. So no, it's not more Hifi to use a tube amp design from decades ago vs a modern design. Technically speaking it's the opposite. As far as solid state amps being a thing of the past because of digital modeling, the fact that the modeling then will go on to a class d solid state power amp 10 times out of ten times in a live scenario, greatly disputes your assumption my good tone dude! Cheers!
@@topfloorstudio2684 jeeps are definitely more lo-fi than h-fi!
I have a Crate GX-40C that I found used for $50 and I LOVE IT. The lead channel is unreal. It sounds WAY BETTER THAN IT SHOULD for a 2x8 practice combo. Have you ever tried 8" speakers before? They have a certain bark that is very unique to them. When they're mic'd up they have a surprisingly usable amount of low end that you may not hear in the room. Crank them up and they HONK LIKE NO OTHER! Great as a blender for distorted tones and clean tones shine and crack right through the mix. I think they are definitely worth a shot if you're searching for tones that nobody has heard before.
What was the signal flow for the set up. Sounded great.
Mendel is amazing! A crossover I didn't expect at all!
Great playing @Mendelian !
I think Glenn was the hung over guy in this video. Weren't you. Even more snappy than usual 😂
Amp built for working musicians and simplicity in a studio... I can appreciate that! Amp is not a heirloom or trinket, it's a TOOL.
GLEEEEEEN! Hey dude, hope you're well. I would find it really helpful if you did a video explaining the signal chain and what actually affects the different parts of the overall sound, from the strings, to the pick ups, to the head and to the speaker ect?
All the best buddy!
Speaking of tube vs solid state and tone is in the speaker. I’m looking into changing my speakers. One I’m sort of looking into is the celestion seventy 80. Many say it’s shit. Some comments say it’s because it’s not a good speaker for tube amps. Is there any truth in that? Do some speakers have a tone change depending on solid state vs tube?
Great Demo!!
Finally! I've been waiting on this video. 😁 Thanks Glenn!
What speaker cab are you using? Sounds great!!
What model is the Yamaha black guitar? Seems a nice guitar to play
Thank you Glenn for making this video! I have this amp and absolutely love it!!! One reason I bought it is because it is SOLID STATE. I hate fuckin with tubes and I love pissin off tone snobs much like yourself 😂 please don’t ever stop!
Have you got a chance to play Michael amotts old ninja sig , had preamp tubes but solid state power section
I have question can I use this amp for hardcore music
It helps that the Revstar is a KILLER guitar! Some of the best sounds I've ever got in a guitar... Great construction, amazing neck, incredible pickups!
I've been using a Vox Brian May Solid state through my cab since last year. Does it sound as good as my "tube" amp ? I don't know but it sounds very, very good and that's all i meed to know
I'm actually using an Orange crush 60 watt combo for all of my tones and it's delivering the goods pretty damn well. And I absolutely love pissing off tone snobs and tube purists with this amp simply because their reactions are priceless when I tell them it's solid state and not powered by vacuum tubes😂 one of them even looked for tubes on the back of the amp simply because he didn't want to believe me that it's not powered by tubes at all😂😂😂
This sounds great, especially at that price point.
I'd be really interested in some kind if shoot-out with maybe a few tube amps vs a few good solid states and see if people can tell the difference between them all in a mix.
I own one of these amps and it's honestly a super affordable all round good amp. I also run a clean boost in the front and a 10 band EQ in the back, this really is key to unlocking some really great sounds in this amp.
Yeah man I do the same thing. I'll also throw a compressor and a sonic stomp in the FX loop too. Solid states seem to respond better to tinkering that way.
I like it. Been thinking of adding a solid state to my arsenal. I still think I’m gonna get a Randall RG series. But this Orange is def on my watch list. 🍊 🔈
What speakers are you running through with the Orange head? Super vid. Cheers from Canada.
One of my favorite amps I’ve ever owned was my Fender Ultimate Chorus from the ‘90s. The high gain sound was so damn cool because it was so aggressive and nasty, kind of like this Orange.
It is a unique tone that cuts through a dense mix with no problem being heard
I think I had a similar Rack version and blew it the first day
i had that Amp in college.. LOVED IT.
@@OpportunityInLife no pedals
Just plug in and play
I'm still a sucker for the stereo chorus!
Loved that amp. Played it for many years in a country/rock band. Used the AMP for the clean and distorted sounds. Outboard pedals were not anything that were tone changing or gain adding units. Just a classic, under rated amp that can be had for a song now days and they have a proven record of lasting such a long time.
"You don't need good stuff because you suck" - Glenn. Plugs into SLO "Listen to my terrible playing" - Also Glenn
What speaker was used for this demo? What mic?
My custom 2022 IR :p. Btw, great to see you, dude!
All the old Floridian Death Metal bands used solid state. Those old Crate Excalibur's have some of the tightest distortion ever. Tubes and transistors can sound amazing. Jim Lill kinda proved that tone is all in the preamp not the power section
Cheap and abundant had nothing to do with it, right?
I believe they were all using the Valvestate amps Morrisound studios had
I still have one of those Crate half stacks in my garage from the early 2000s! It was all i could afford at the time, but i got some cool sound out of it with the help of a graphic EQ.
Can you please not misrepresent information like that, in no way did Jim Lill prove what you said, what he proved is that solid state, tube preamp, and tube power amp distortion sound really really similar when entirely isolated.
To hear a guitar amp REQUIRES that a guitar, amp, speaker, and mic (or simulation of some or all of the above, unless you're in the room then you can skip the mic) all be in the signal chain together, and every single one of those is absolutely loaded with variables (EQ signature shows up like 6 times among each of those), you cannot simply isolate "tone" into a specific subsection of a circuit of an amplifier.
@@nelke3891 This.
The best guitar tone I ever heard was on Iron Maiden's Seventh Son of a Seventh Son, using Gallien-Krueger 250ML solid-state lunchbox combos, and on the Seventh Tour of a Seventh Tour, using Gallien-Krueger 2000CPL rack units, again all solid state. Those units especially had everything one could want in an amp: an effects loop, a recording out, a 4-band EQ section with separate, foot-switchable channels, and built-in compression, delay, and chorus. In addition to having the potential to sound really good, solid state is much cheaper to manufacture, and uses far less energy than tube amps to run, with a significantly lower carbon footprint.
You remind me, I'vealways wanted to know Greta Thunberg's favorite amp.
Absolutely brilliant guitar sound on that record. My favorite probably still is Powerslave, though.
There is actually a guitar pedal called "Seventh Son", which is modelled after the GK preamp section. I forgot the name of the manufacturer, but you can find it easily enough.
@@mrcoatsworth429 My favorite old-school guitar tone is on Piece of Mind. Powerslave is very similar-basically, a continuation of that sound, but a little more compact.
I had no idea there was a Seventh Son 250ML-in-a-box type of pedal. I just checked out the demo by the manufacturer. To my ear, it is, unofortunately, missing the midrange thickness and the tight bottom end the GK amps had. Plus, let's not forget about the importance of that beautiful compression that the GK amps had, which made each note sound fluid and even, without the need for much gain. So, you get the best of both worlds: low gain tone with high gain sustain.
@@mickeythompson9537 How DARE yhooo?
@@metalinsights9664 I'm tempted to buy the pedal, just because it's cheaper and more convenient than an actual vintage GK.
Personally, I found the demos to be less than ideal. So I won't judge the pedal just yet. Not until I've heard it for myself. And there are two versions of the pedal. So maybe it's the less "accurate" version that you listened to. Anyways, I don't know how it is, but it might be interesting!
You sould make a video explaining all those adjectives that mean nothing when describing a guitar tone. I think it would help us non-producers to speak more clearly to a producer. GREAT VIDEO GLENN
How well does it take a Metalzone in the fx loop?
I got the amp recently. It sounds just as good, no regrets. Now I may finally start building a pedalboard.
I have a H&K tube amp and a Orange Crush Pro 60c. They are both amazing and the orange punches way above and beyond what you would think. Good stuff.
FINALLY SOME ORANGE!!! I run a wall of Orange and used to have a Cr120 briefly before getting the Rockerverb MKII, Dark Terror, Micro Dark, and a SS Bass Crush 100 1x15 combo I run as well. The 15 adds a different tone and while there is more Sizzle on the Crush, mixed in with tube it all sounds amazing, especially with all my SS gain hitting the front of each amp too
It’s so warm with that fret board!!
Does it have a cooling fan?
I played this a while back. I love how it’s tight and sludgey at the same time.
But surely it matters that you have vintage solid state components. You need to do a test comparing transistors op amps and diodes 😉
blaaaah
Inserts the demo where behringer tube screamer is side by side compared to a OG ceramics component tube screamer and is sonically identical
you can get these at guitar center in the us
As an owner of this amp I can say its excellent value for money, and with a few pedals really versatile. I run either a clean boost with bass/treble control, a tube screamer or boss sd1 and achieve a wide variety of tones.
I'd love to see more videos on tubes vs solid state heads
Thank you Glen always insightful
I know people have been bitchin' about your screaming at the start, but please bring it back. lol It always brings a smile to my face.
For me, I want an amp that's versatile. This video showed me an amp that can do perfect cleans and super high gain sounds.
Neither of those things interest me.
I like my clean sound to have just a little dirt, and my overdriven sound to be... well, not that. Take an old Fender or a Vox, crank the volume to about 7, and you're in the ballpark.
I don't have anything against well-made solid state amps. I had a Fender Frontman 212R for years that, with the right overdrive pedal, was pretty good. There's just something about the sound of tubes that solid state can't replicate.
After a dozen of amp sims, modelers, tube amps I figured out that I wanted a sturdy, dependeable simple amp that sounds good. The Orange Crush 60C is an absolute beast and I love it
I thought you said the pickup video was coming out today. Really looking forward to that one.
It’s going to take more time. Lots of elements!
Wow Glen you sure have a gift with finding good musicians! Give these guys more credit ffs like display their names on screen! That said, Great vid as always 🤘❤️
Looking forward to this one!
most important thing wasn't mentioned.What cabinet was the supercruch playing through??
My custom IR :p
This amp Rips through the speakers, awesome Tone it works for bands like Down and I think for a Live Set-up can't beat the cheap price I was surprised by the Lead Guitar Tones.. I like it for the Grindcore-Doom like sounds
For anyone here thinking about buying one of these. We’ve had one of these going through my circle of friends. Consensus is pretty much, it definitely lives to the hype. We all think the distortion on it sucks (especially for metal/extreme metal) but it is about the best pedal platform out there. It moves air like tubes dude, but it’s kind of it’s own thing. Closest thing I could think to compare it to are Sunn Beta Leads and other vintage solid states. But with a lot more clarity and less noise. Over all killer amp! Wish I had room for one!
Crate GX-130C, which was supposedly a clone of the Ampeg VH-140C. I had the 2x12 combo back in the 90s and bought a head version years ago for like $100. Best $100 I ever spent. Killer drive sound and stereo chorus.
"Supposedly", but not really. Their schematics have many similarities, but Ampeg has a completely different tonestack and overall voicing (for example, the controls are placed at different frequencies, Crate has a boost-only low control and much more lower mids), some clipping stages are different, but it should be relatively easy to convert one into another. BTW, I have a Crate XLP, it's a rack version of the G130CXL/GX130C (same amp, just restyled), pretty cool, but I like the sound of Ampegs better.
This amp sounds awesome and I want one. Only potential problem is that I have a single V30 12” speaker rated for 60 watts…bad idea to get this amp since it’s 100 watts??
Aren't tube amps louder though? Which would be better for band practice bc they could keep up with a drummer
been singing the praises of the yamaha thr amps for years most people on the internet seem like they're recording direct into the interface and doing all the eq, reverb, and IRs in the daw because it makes the most sense if you don't already have a sparkly tube amp, mic, and a room to turn up and record in, the gain structures sound pretty good i'm sure you could dial in any gradient of crunch on there, seems like a perfect pedal platform would work great with a matching 2x12.
I've only known about this amp for a few days and after watching several reviews I'm convinced it was made for me.
I always thought about Orange Amps. A few artists use them recording and live. And thinking outside the box by going away from the high mainstream ones. Like Marshall, Yamaha, etc.
Orange amps do have an actually unique tone. there's a upper midrange hump in them that is pretty unmistakable.
is that the rse20?
I've got a tube pre amp in my pedal board that can be mixed in - really only sounds different in real life when playing clean. By the time it is in a mix in a live setting it wouldn't matter.
I wouldn't say it "proves tubes are overrated", but I WOULD say it proves ORANGE makes BADASS AMPS!
Your first co host crushes! What an amazing player. I like his style.
I love low energy Glenn lol
I had this one at home a few months back when deciding for a lightweight gig amp and it hurt a looot to send it back, because it sounded amazing. Man I wish I had a lot of money so I could have kept it too. It lost the battle against a Laney IRT SLS (preamp tubes, no pesky power tubes) which won the race for me because it has more features and a DI out with the option to deactivate the speaker sim (for using a real IR loader). The latter is the only real downside of the super crush, because its ever present speaker sim sounds like ass. But the amp itself gives my tube gear a run for its money. I recommend to anybody looking for orange tones check out this amp, you won't regret it.
You're playing a Valiant! Awesome, love those guys!
My favorite guitarist has used this head as his main touring amp for a few years now and he sounds great. I bought one and sounded like crap. Must be the gear! 😁
Would that be Ty Tabor?
@@ruination775 Yep!
We have the old 150w Orange PA, with the two 5ft cabs at my moms somewhere.
It used to get that hot it would crack tubes in a cold breeze.
But a new transformer and it was a workhorse, a stereo pedal at the end of the guitar fx chain and it was a signature sound.
We got it in the industrial estate the original oranges and Marshall’s were built (full disclosure the guy who told me that also tried selling us crack so...)and another head and cab called a Lenard.
Would like to get one of these eventually, the max speaker load of 8ohms sucks though.
Hey Glenn can you do a how to reamp Solid State amps through IRs?
Nice amp!
Really hard to read fonts at the ORANGE website though.
This is an interesting video. I’m not a fan of the tone you’re getting, but I think that may have more to do with how you prefer your eq (low mids, high treble). You mentioned that this amp is better for blending with a tube amp like a 5150. I have to ask, what is it about a 5150 that makes it more suitable for other purposes than this super crush, which you said is more of a blending amp? I have to assume it’s not just the tubes. Genuinely curious, not a gotcha.
The highly regarded SS amp from the past that was not mentioned due to forgetfulness was the SUNN Beta Lead, of which I have 2 of. I have the combo 2-12, and the Beta Lead head with a Sunn 4-12 cabinet. Both the speaker configurations sound great, and I like using both depending on the tone I want at the time. These Sunn Beta Leads were very expensive back in 1979-1980, but can be found for a decent price.
The Sunn Beta Lead is an absolutely beautiful amp. I would kill for one. Curious how everyone forgets that amp
I have a Sovtech MIG 100 with 4 x 10 90's Jenson speakers. I have a AC30 with 2 x 12 green backs. And a Carvin 2 x 12 speaker open back. But what I'm using live is a new Orange Crush 20. Which I believe has a 8 inch voice of the world speaker. I plug my pedal board straight into the crush with a a 57 mic going to the PA. And it works amazing. It is has a great clean tone and I use the distortion from my board. That being said it is around 100 lbs lighter and is plenty loud for stage volume for small clubs. I love that little thing!
I bought one 3 years ago and have gigged with it ever since. It has PLENTY of gain and it loves pedals. I have it paired with a Hughes Kettner 2/12 cabinet with vintage 30’s and it absolutely sounds great cranked. I have no complaints with this head and for $500 bucks new it is well worth the price, especially if you don’t have $2000-$3000 bucks for a tube head. If you have not tried one, you need too!!!
Now if only Marshall would give their sound the Super Crush treatment and release a modern great sounding solid state line...