I love these watches, I have a NY0040-17LE with an 8204 that hacks and hand winds, supplied in the 'Promaster air tank' case, I removed the original strap and replaced it with an after market ND Limits markings in blue.
Long Island Watch just released a jubilee style and an oyster style bracelet for this Citizen Promaster NY0040. Solid endlinks, solid links and milled clasp! Finally a decent bracelet for these! 🙌
Thanks for your kind words. One more thing to note: there should be an improved watch movement that HACKS. Quite useful if you ask me. That could also determine your buying decision.
Ny0040 new version with 8204 easily challenges and beats the rest of them. A diver with military specifications. Having used Makos, Rays, Skx for years and years i'd say Ny0040 is the best choice among them.
@@GadgetsforGentlemen There is no such thing, better than most 6r15 or 6r35 of Seiko. Performs identical to 6r15c of my old Sumo. Close to my new generation Alpinist with 6r35a in terms of timekeeping. 8204 should be standart for new generation Citizens.
Thank you! I absolutely love the fact the form and function stood their time. The Marina Nationale connection etc. The new Alpinist watches also look nice. I own the Sarb017.
My wife just ordered one for me for the Christmas present...I culdn't be happier...We are not really making much money and with 2 small kids have a lot of expenses, but she new I wanted it and ordered it for me...She's the best...I love her so much....can't wait for the delivery...
My wife hates you. Couldn't decide which Citizen colour should I get. So I ordered all of them. All 3 models. All reviews should be done like this one :)
when i got my promaster ecodrive bn0151 my in-laws did not send me the air tank box in order to save some space in the package.. i wish i had that tank, it´s such a cool little detain and it would look great on a shelf.
Good job. I am in love with divers, and since my Stargate after a decade of use is waiting for a successor or rather a worthy budget assistant, I watched the comparison with interest.
I have the Pepsi (NY0086) and the dark green one (NY0084). I love the Pepsi one, specially on a Nato or elastic blue strap. Colors really pop! Perfect beach/summer watch! Since they are affordable, I'm thinking of trying to collect more colorways. Maybe add the Coke (NY0085), Sunburst blue and the Full Lume too, eventually. Thanks for the video!
I think they've done it like that so they could increase the overall size of the triangle. Also, vintage Seiko divers have the cut off triangles too so they're amongst good company.
“…Which I don’t like!! 😡” lol 😂 Tell em, bro!!!! No cut off triangles!! But seriously, though, the blue dial is so killer, I wish I had one. Haven’t quite been able to justify it yet cuz my Ray II is kind of taking that spot.
Great review. I have the blue version of this watch but mine has a misaligned bezel. I guess i am just unlucky. Its a superb watch besides that. Try them with tropic straps. You wont regret.
G'day mate, I thought you did a really good review there. I bought the Citizen automatic divers watch from a dive store in Germany. It came with a 8204 movement that you probably know hacks and the rubber strap did not have the ND limits, it's just plain which I like. I've always liked the citizen automatic because it's built for task and is not a show watch ( does not have a see through glass back) which I don't like to see on a dive watch. You do really great videos there, and I think that you have persuaded me to get a Seiko skx oo9 as well. Very best wishes to you.
Hi Paul, thanks for your kind words. Excellent purchase. What color did you get? I bought a new black one with the new movement. Really love it. To me the 009 is a nice playful watch. Somehow the 0040 looks even more like a toolwatch (the real deal) imho. Anyway can’t go wrong with any of these (or Orient for that matter), but Citizen currently has one of the best bang-per-buck.
G'day mate, I am sorry, I bought the black version. Absolutely love it. Looked around for the Seiko skx oo9 and they are quite exy but have found a good deal on a new 009 j from Singapore so have ordered one and will use this for my hols. My Citizen is for the gym, running, the pool and the ocean. Once again superb review, good on you mate. Very best wishes from Paul.
This video is about Citizen entry level dive watches! Showing Seiko , Orient , Seiko , ..... Loooool ! And the only differenc between the Citizen watches are only the straps!! Great video!!! ;)
I have a question if you have an idea what is the best replacement for the orient ray 2 rubber strap? I have a small wrist and its big for me. Thank you:
Thanks for review. Nice collection. I'm in doubt now which option should I choose. I was thinking about orient ray raven as a military style watch, but black citizen looks great and was used by Italian navy. It's great to see all models in the same video!! Great job.
Thank you so much. You can’t go wrong with any of them. Make sure to get the updated watch movement that allows for hacking. I think it’s called the 8204 instead of the older 8203.
Beautiful watches and interesting choice. Similar personal taste, like mine. In one moment I had had a dilemma between buying Orient Ray 2 and Citizen NY0040. Finally I decided and bought NY0040, black version, which I prefer over all another versions of this watch including fugu version. Only one thing, I would complain is too small crown, for my taste. There is one thing, I have not found out about NY0040 is about antimagnetic protection. Do you know anything about this?
Hi Alem, Orient Ray 2 is a fantastic watch too. But it has an even smaller crown 😉 According to ISO 6425 divers' watches standard: all ISO certified dive watches should have some shock protection and some magnetic resistance. Hope this helps! For more information look up the Miyota watch movement, it’s ISO certification and the ISO explanation 😉
I am not sure. Here you can see the new 0040 that I bought with the hacking movement: Citizen NY0040 The Best Dive Watch Around $200 | Seiko SKX013, SKX009, Invicta 8926OB & Orient Ray 2 th-cam.com/video/IIbu8CX_a2g/w-d-xo.html
Is it possible to align the bezel? I know it pops off, but its placement is dictated by the spring underneath. But I was under the impression that the dial/numbered part of the bezel pops out. I thought maybe you could fiddle with that to align it. Otherwise maybe try another spring. I'm not sure. I'm just in the middle of finding myself a diver and have been researching a bit. I prefer the newer ny008x for the whiter indices and bezel font, but want a solid black (not "coke").
I am not sure about this. I know a seller in The Netherlands who manually aligns the bezel of the Seiko SKX before shipping. To correct for the sometimes poor quality control of the alignment. Not sure if this can be done with the Citizen.
@@GadgetsforGentlemen I can't recommend it as I don't have experience with it, but I watched a video from LongIslandWatch where he was replacing the spring in an SKX (which is where I learned it was the offset spring that gave it its 60 clicks; ie the underside of the bezel only has 60 grooves) and he mentioned that it could be slightly bent to fix the alignment. I'm just curious how the bezel insert sits and if it's possible to adjust. I ordered an NY0085 that I'll hopefully have by Friday. Maybe soon I'll be brave enough to find out myself!
I ordered the blue one from Amazon in Germany - NY0040-17LE, but it looks a bit different - strap is plain blue without any text written on it, and bezel looks like the one from pepsi model (no sharp triangle at the marker). Do such models exist, or did I get a fake watch?
I think it does exist. They no longer do the text on the strap I heard. I bought the pepsi from a reputable seller. Thus I think this might be the new design?
Did yours arrive with the German datewheel and 8204 movement? I live in South America, but would like to order one from Amazon Germany just to get a German datewheel.
Nice review, i have the black version, and the total full green dial version, the latter has never been out of box, but i dont like the rubber straps, I put a high end Super Engineer bracelet on the Black one and it looks wicked, ! totally uncompromising as a military watch.
@@stefpix it was from Amazon, not the citizen bracelet which has folded links and open end links and therefore costs too much at around £55, the one I got Super engineer was around £40, really chunky and with screw pins and solid flat end links , ok the citizen one is custom made for that watch , curved end links and what not, but the Amazon super engineer makes it look really kick ass.
I love these watches, I have a NY0040-17LE with an 8204 that hacks and hand winds, supplied in the 'Promaster air tank' case, I removed the original strap and replaced it with an after market ND Limits markings in blue.
Long Island Watch just released a jubilee style and an oyster style bracelet for this Citizen Promaster NY0040. Solid endlinks, solid links and milled clasp! Finally a decent bracelet for these! 🙌
Nice. Haven’t seen it yet.
finally
a COPYMAGE ???
It's out of stock....
Link?
Ny0040 is a great iso rated diver. Love the glossy dial and I wear mine on a tropic strap.
Sounds like an excellent and exciting combination!
Same here,it looks amazing on tropic rubber
The most useful video I found for the entry level Citizen Promaster automatics, and believe me I looked at a few. Thank you for your efforts.
Thanks for your kind words. One more thing to note: there should be an improved watch movement that HACKS. Quite useful if you ask me. That could also determine your buying decision.
@@GadgetsforGentlemen just got myself one of those with Miyota 8204 inside a couple weeks ago ;) love it!
I bet you love it! Good thing you were able to get the model with the improved movement 😉
Ny0040 new version with 8204 easily challenges and beats the rest of them. A diver with military specifications. Having used Makos, Rays, Skx for years and years i'd say Ny0040 is the best choice among them.
I love the new edition. Some say the accuracy is not as great as the 8203. What are your insights?
@@GadgetsforGentlemen There is no such thing, better than most 6r15 or 6r35 of Seiko. Performs identical to 6r15c of my old Sumo. Close to my new generation Alpinist with 6r35a in terms of timekeeping. 8204 should be standart for new generation Citizens.
Thank you! I absolutely love the fact the form and function stood their time. The Marina Nationale connection etc. The new Alpinist watches also look nice. I own the Sarb017.
My wife just ordered one for me for the Christmas present...I culdn't be happier...We are not really making much money and with 2 small kids have a lot of expenses, but she new I wanted it and ordered it for me...She's the best...I love her so much....can't wait for the delivery...
Have a fantastic Christmas celebration with the family and your new watch!
My wife hates you. Couldn't decide which Citizen colour should I get. So I ordered all of them. All 3 models. All reviews should be done like this one :)
Make sure to show your appreciation for your wife 😉 I am curious to know which one of the three watches you like the best!
when i got my promaster ecodrive bn0151 my in-laws did not send me the air tank box in order to save some space in the package.. i wish i had that tank, it´s such a cool little detain and it would look great on a shelf.
It’s a rare and cool feature at this price point!
Good job. I am in love with divers, and since my Stargate after a decade of use is waiting for a successor or rather a worthy budget assistant, I watched the comparison with interest.
Thanks for your kind words. I hope the video was helpful to you!
I prefer this over the Skx
There is a new video coming soon. Featuring a hacking movement Citizen NY0040 😉
I have the Pepsi (NY0086) and the dark green one (NY0084). I love the Pepsi one, specially on a Nato or elastic blue strap. Colors really pop! Perfect beach/summer watch!
Since they are affordable, I'm thinking of trying to collect more colorways. Maybe add the Coke (NY0085), Sunburst blue and the Full Lume too, eventually.
Thanks for the video!
Great collection! I might sell the blue one (ny0040-17) 😉
Just bought the Pepsi ny0040 last month. Love the watch!
Glad you enjoy it! 💪🏻
Need to get the yellow full lum one now and complete the collection!
What i hear is if the triangle is cut off on the bottom it means its the 8204 movement with hacking and updated lume
I think they've done it like that so they could increase the overall size of the triangle. Also, vintage Seiko divers have the cut off triangles too so they're amongst good company.
That it's I was looking for! Great comparison between new and old promaster's versions! Thank you for your detailing video review.
Thanks for your message!
“…Which I don’t like!! 😡” lol 😂 Tell em, bro!!!! No cut off triangles!! But seriously, though, the blue dial is so killer, I wish I had one. Haven’t quite been able to justify it yet cuz my Ray II is kind of taking that spot.
I have 2 rays, l really like them too. Orange and blue awesome.. but I just bought the blue ny should be here in a few days
Since this post I have had the blue dial Citizen NY0040 and I like it better than the Ray.
I just bought the blue eco drive version last week
Great review. I have the blue version of this watch but mine has a misaligned bezel. I guess i am just unlucky. Its a superb watch besides that. Try them with tropic straps. You wont regret.
Thanks for your reply. I have a few tropical traps laying around. Generally I love them on NATO straps for comfort and practicality.
G'day mate, I thought you did a really good review there. I bought the Citizen automatic divers watch from a dive store in Germany. It came with a 8204 movement that you probably know hacks and the rubber strap did not have the ND limits, it's just plain which I like. I've always liked the citizen automatic because it's built for task and is not a show watch ( does not have a see through glass back) which I don't like to see on a dive watch. You do really great videos there, and I think that you have persuaded me to get a Seiko skx oo9 as well. Very best wishes to you.
Hi Paul, thanks for your kind words. Excellent purchase. What color did you get? I bought a new black one with the new movement. Really love it. To me the 009 is a nice playful watch. Somehow the 0040 looks even more like a toolwatch (the real deal) imho. Anyway can’t go wrong with any of these (or Orient for that matter), but Citizen currently has one of the best bang-per-buck.
G'day mate, I am sorry, I bought the black version. Absolutely love it. Looked around for the Seiko skx oo9 and they are quite exy but have found a good deal on a new 009 j from Singapore so have ordered one and will use this for my hols. My Citizen is for the gym, running, the pool and the ocean. Once again superb review, good on you mate. Very best wishes from Paul.
Thank you very much! Hope you will love the 009!
This video is about Citizen entry level dive watches! Showing Seiko , Orient , Seiko , ..... Loooool !
And the only differenc between the Citizen watches are only the straps!!
Great video!!! ;)
False information 😉 Also different are the dial and bezel colors 🤓
I have a question if you have an idea what is the best replacement for the orient ray 2 rubber strap? I have a small wrist and its big for me. Thank you:
Zuludiver tropical rubber 22mm
Thanks for review. Nice collection. I'm in doubt now which option should I choose. I was thinking about orient ray raven as a military style watch, but black citizen looks great and was used by Italian navy. It's great to see all models in the same video!! Great job.
Thank you so much. You can’t go wrong with any of them. Make sure to get the updated watch movement that allows for hacking. I think it’s called the 8204 instead of the older 8203.
Thanks for letting know. That's an important advice!
You are welcome!
Beautiful watches and interesting choice. Similar personal taste, like mine. In one moment I had had a dilemma between buying Orient Ray 2 and Citizen NY0040. Finally I decided and bought NY0040, black version, which I prefer over all another versions of this watch including fugu version. Only one thing, I would complain is too small crown, for my taste.
There is one thing, I have not found out about NY0040 is about antimagnetic protection. Do you know anything about this?
Hi Alem, Orient Ray 2 is a fantastic watch too. But it has an even smaller crown 😉
According to ISO 6425 divers' watches standard: all ISO certified dive watches should have some shock protection and some magnetic resistance. Hope this helps! For more information look up the Miyota watch movement, it’s ISO certification and the ISO explanation 😉
Does Citizen still supply the gas cylinder gift containers? Did I hear a rumor that they now only supply the watches in cardboard boxes?
In my experience it really depends where you buy them. Some sellers provide the whole set. Others only provide a simple box.
Very good comparison. Thank you from Russia author!
Excellent comparison video.
Thanks :)
Thanks for honest review! 👍👍
I have black one, and it’s my favorite so far😎😎
Thanks for your kind words. Enjoy that beautiful diver!
Thank you for this great comparison.
Thanks for your kind words!
My NY0040-17LE bought in the same store, lucasdivestore, and I noticed that the triangle on the bezel is cut off also. Is this a new version?
I am not sure. Here you can see the new 0040 that I bought with the hacking movement:
Citizen NY0040 The Best Dive Watch Around $200 | Seiko SKX013, SKX009, Invicta 8926OB & Orient Ray 2
th-cam.com/video/IIbu8CX_a2g/w-d-xo.html
Seems like they also made these with the hacking 8204 movement
Yes. I feature this in my newer video. You can find it on my channel.
What is lug to lug of Citizen Promaster NY0086-16
Is it possible to align the bezel? I know it pops off, but its placement is dictated by the spring underneath. But I was under the impression that the dial/numbered part of the bezel pops out. I thought maybe you could fiddle with that to align it. Otherwise maybe try another spring.
I'm not sure. I'm just in the middle of finding myself a diver and have been researching a bit. I prefer the newer ny008x for the whiter indices and bezel font, but want a solid black (not "coke").
I am not sure about this. I know a seller in The Netherlands who manually aligns the bezel of the Seiko SKX before shipping. To correct for the sometimes poor quality control of the alignment. Not sure if this can be done with the Citizen.
@@GadgetsforGentlemen I can't recommend it as I don't have experience with it, but I watched a video from LongIslandWatch where he was replacing the spring in an SKX (which is where I learned it was the offset spring that gave it its 60 clicks; ie the underside of the bezel only has 60 grooves) and he mentioned that it could be slightly bent to fix the alignment. I'm just curious how the bezel insert sits and if it's possible to adjust. I ordered an NY0085 that I'll hopefully have by Friday. Maybe soon I'll be brave enough to find out myself!
I wish you a whole lot of fun with your new watch purchase!
Citizen, the king!!!
I think the Pepsi color is made in China and the other one is genuine from Japan.
I ordered the blue one from Amazon in Germany - NY0040-17LE, but it looks a bit different - strap is plain blue without any text written on it, and bezel looks like the one from pepsi model (no sharp triangle at the marker). Do such models exist, or did I get a fake watch?
I think it does exist. They no longer do the text on the strap I heard. I bought the pepsi from a reputable seller. Thus I think this might be the new design?
Did yours arrive with the German datewheel and 8204 movement? I live in South America, but would like to order one from Amazon Germany just to get a German datewheel.
They redesigned the new ny0040 models and removed the nd limits, added hacking and changed the bezel a bit
@BNYSean exactly! Also some small differences in crown (signed or non-signed), promaster logo and so on.
Hey man, great collection 😮. Would u plz share ur wrist size? I am about to buy one of these but I am afraid of my 6 and 2 inch wrist.
Hi sir, thanks for your comment. My wrist size is 6.3 inches. So you should be fine!
Is the 0040 a little bigger than the 0086?
I think it’s the exact same size
I don't know why they dont just paint with luminova gw9 or whatever..its cheap..
Excellent watch
The crown isn't at 4 o'clock. It's at 8 o'clock.
Every review of the ny0040 says there is no hacking. I have this watch and am I the only one that has it with the hacking option?
I figured it out already. Mine has the 8204 movement.
There should be an improved movement that allows for hacking. Mine unfortunately only have handwinding.
Nederlands accent?
Yes
@@GadgetsforGentlemen leuke review. Lekker kalm en rustig.
Hartelijk dank voor uw compliment!
Nice review, i have the black version, and the total full green dial version, the latter has never been out of box, but i dont like the rubber straps, I put a high end Super Engineer bracelet on the Black one and it looks wicked, ! totally uncompromising as a military watch.
Thank you!
Which bracelet did you get and where? Not original Citizen?
@@stefpix it was from Amazon, not the citizen bracelet which has folded links and open end links and therefore costs too much at around £55, the one I got Super engineer was around £40, really chunky and with screw pins and solid flat end links , ok the citizen one is custom made for that watch , curved end links and what not, but the Amazon super engineer makes it look really kick ass.
@@jezztech thank you!