Jodie...I very much think the majority of watch enthusiasts will disagree with you over this one. It's so good to see citizen pair back their designs to something that watch enthusiasts really enjoy. The majority of citizens other designs are too large and aggressive to be worn on a daily basis. It's not boring...it's a fantastic watch
Boring isn't for everyone. I prefer simple designs like this lol. I think it looks great and balanced, and would be giddy with excitement to own one, but on a bracelet.
This watch has no simplistic design, there's features everywhere. Only it's things we've seen millions of times before. That's what makes this one boring.
What ever your opinion there's nothing wrong with simple clean designs, it's a great everyday quality tool watch. I'm not into Mercedes hands to be fair, they are over done at this point but I'm digging the aluminium bezel. I like my watches to develop their own patina, I think all these watches with sapphire bezel inserts are going to look a bit weird when the watch starts to get a bit beaten up but the insert remains pristine.
True, but you can have a simple watch and still stand out or have a bit of it's own signature. This watch is nearly as dull as it gets. It would be much nicer to get a Victorinox alternative.
I love it. Faithful retro release, no embarrassing, orange fake aged lume, finally something that has an appropriate aluminium bezel for a vintage design, it's a proper diver's watch on top of that. Exactly my cup of tea! Just the price that is a bit more than I would have liked it to be and the non branded strap are actually the only disappointments I can share here.
I have to say, I like it! Would anyone fault a Submariner or a 62MAS for being black and white and therefore call either of them bland? I like the case shape and the fact it has that hardening coating that by the way you don't get on a Tudor Pelagos. And the rubber strap may be sterile but it suits the watch and it looks like good quality.
Personally I think for once Citizen nailed a watch with the essence of masculinity. Gets the job done without being a glib pratt!!! Well done Citizen!!!
I have to respectfully disagree ( 😃 ). I bought one of these recently and love it. Wonderfully light owing to the titanium construction, which I know makes some think it (and other titanium watches) has a "cheap" feel. Faithful to the design of the original Challenge diver, with some updates (ISO rating, 200m water resistance, titanium case). I wore it after wearing my Seiko Arnie and thought, "Crikey, this looks small"... but after a few hours of wearing it something clicked and I realised that it's dimensions were perfect, and I was just used to wearing that huge Arnie with its Tuna case. (FWIW, I have a wrist size somewhere between 7 and 7.5 inches, so I'm not a pipsqueak with noodle arms by any stretch of the imagination.) I don't mind the noisy movement if it's as accurate as this one seems to be (at least, in my experience with it). I have two small caveats: I'd love a larger, signed buckle on the strap; and the bezel action is admittedly a little "tinny" and thin. At a push, I'd say that I'd also prefer a matte dial than the glossy dial this has - or alternatively, some AR coating on the inside of the crystal. But I can live with both of those for now (and eventually put most of my watches on after-market straps, anyway). Cheers for the review.
Knew we’d disagree sooner or later lol. I’ve got the blue version on a bracelet and it’s got a certain X factor for me that just works. And in a world where Tudor are celebrated for releasing the same watch with a slight variation every year and Seiko charge thousands of dollars for a watch they will eventually repackage into a $700 watch a few years later, I appreciate citizens decidedly middle of the road approach to an archive watch (something they rarely do to begin with, which is also refreshing in this landscape of retro reissue mania)
Citizenhave an entire section of their website dedicated to re-issues and revivals, mostly digis also the Square promaster from last year was a r-issue as was the Orca, their heritage miners just like everyone else. imho
@@jamesblonde2271 maybe I should’ve worded that better. They rarely do reissues in the sense that reissues are not the core of their brand, as they are for most brands these days. When citizen reissues it’s usually something fun and niche. In the case of the challenge diver the average watch collector would be forgiven for not even realizing it’s a reissue given how purely functional and non ornamental they decided to go with it, which is a respectable approach to a reissue imo
It's not the most exciting watch that's ever been offered, sure. But for many people, they want something functional, reliable and which doesn't draw any sort of attention to itself. This is perfect for those people. The fact that Jody finds it relatively boring is hardly surprising: he's handled a TON of wild and weird watches.
I think the price point plays into it, too. This looks like the most bland Citizen you could find in a department store while costing five times as much. And, I am a Citizen fan. I have Promasters, dress watches and even the titanium Promaster EcoDrive in the scuba tank. If you're getting toward Oris pricing, Citizen will become the new Invicta. Just my opinion.
I mean, it's still boring nonetheless. This is the type of watch that I'd likely ask someone what they are wearing and then immediately regret asking or seeing it. Because now I'd feel like I need to at least look a little interested despite wanting nothing more to do with it.
It's a Citizen...rarely the most exciting designs with them. That said, this one doesn't look particularly boring either. Certainly not the most boring watch you've reviewed so far this year 😄
I dunno, I mean they have quite a few watches that have design ques that separate them from the norm. My gripe is that they mostly seem to be 44mm or bigger so kudos for making a 41mm dive watch. That's kind of a big deal for Citizen.
@cam-yu8wu On the contrary, Citizen has some of the most innovative designs in the past few years. Have a look at the Series 8, the Chronomaster series. Even the cheaper solar models are nice, like the Orca and the Ecozilla. On the opposite, I think Seiko has boring designs, reusing the same cases over and over for the past 50 years (Tuna, Turtle or SKX).
One of The Greatest releases made in the last years. Super cool looking, titanium, strapmonster. What's not to love? Everyone I know who got it absolutely LOVE it, and so do I.
@@satya.anandakrishnan Yeah, and unfortunately Jody is at his core, a Seiko enthusiast and very rarely does that mean open and honest reviews of its main competitor. Look at Jody gush countless times over mediocre spec 6R movement Seiko's that have the same level of QC as their $200 watches and still fail with low grade bracelets. They even sell $2,500 prospex models with modified 6R's for office GMTs lol Its remarkable what gets a free pass with Seiko people and I am a Seiko fan with several 62mas reissues.
I actually really love it and think it looks awesome. Guess I'm into boring designs. I love the simplicity and that everything is visible and legible at a glance without a fuss.
To each their own, I love a nice simple dial/watch and this citizen is very similar to the seiko 62 MAS reissue which everyone raves about (and rightfully so) but this citizen is better! In my opinion it's got an awesome backstory especislly for a dive watch!! Plus it's simple elegant, and titanium so has some unique features while still coming with the standard (but great) dimensions!
Helm Miyako for $375?! Sooooooooooooo many others if you are OK with 200m or 300m. I'd take a cheaper Citizen with more character plus the change, as I said. Cheers!
@@JustOneMoreWatchwhy ? Why did you have to mention this Miyako watch ? I looked it up … I am now am on a waiting list …but I do like this citizen watch ..
I think it's awesome, and a likely a great watch if you don't already have a drawer full of similar watches. If Citizen has released it back in '18 when I was getting "into" watches I'd have one on the way... Since it's not 2018, and I have a GSAR already, I don't have a Citizen "Barnacle" headed my way. I will say that I find it a bit unfair to hammer on Citizen for "boring" in a world where people spend thousands of dollars for a similarly boring BB58 or Submariner...
I feel like we are quite similar in watch preferences, affection for flexible, universal, possibly mundane designs in general, also typing this with a GSAR on my wrist. I think for the "Boring" watch to work, like the BB58 and Submariner, they need to be plain, timeless, and cohesive. I think the BB58 and Submariner meet those criteria, but I don't think this watch does, personally. This kind of feels like the kind of watch I'd expect to see if Citizen had excess parts inventory and combined what was lying around into a single watch. I also don't feel like it represents its price tier well. I think you can get more interesting or more refined watches, whichever is your preference, for that amount of money. The boring watch is usually the safe watch, so I agree it's appeal increases if you're looking for a single dive watch to buy. I just don't think I would recommend this one.
@DallenRex while I agree it's not a spec/value monster for its price, it's a better deal than anything the other big brands make around that price in my mind. I'd recommend it to anyone looking to buy one good/great diver. That said, I'd also recommend the CW C60 300, if someone wanted a bit more flash.
@@Not_me9791 He has been a long term Citizen basher / Seiko fanboi. He is willing to gush over $1,800 seikos that don't have signed crowns, aren't titanium, have common alignment issues and terrible, terrible bracelets and lower grade movements. He is not willing to give much ground for a watch that so many other reviewers have given legitimate praise (and negatives) to. Jody is grasping and likely trying to get some TH-cam algorithm magic from the activity on this one since it was far from his normal behaviour in a review.
I purchased the black on rubber from the Citizen flagship store while on a recent trip to Tokyo and I absolutely love it. My collection includes Rolex, Cartier, Breitling, Omega, Longines, Sinn …. You get the idea. But I LOVE the simplicity of the watch, the weight, and the 70’s vibe. It’s running at +5 a day, It’s understated, and it just works.
I don't hate this watch and normally I find Citizen's to be too busy or clunky for my likes. They just do not usually grab my attention. This is one of the few I have seen that I would happily wear though. To each their own :).
Love this simple design. It's simple but looks well executed. It's classic and understated. I think a price of around 700 USD is okay 1200 USD is a Bit much
The black citizen titanium sells for 900aud in stores here in Australia, starbuy and others. It has also been on sale for less. Even the blue one with the really nice titanium bracelet has been as low as 900 on sales. The only reason he has gone on about RRP is because it sounds dramatic.
jody i think you might be a victim of puffed up expectations on this one, its a fine watch, even pretty cool to many! but if you come from 50 watches a year and great reviews, a well done dive watch with a classic design may underwhelm?
Well, it's been a long time coming, but we'll agree to disagree on this one. A good, honest, down to earth watch. No pretentions to be something it isn't. I've seen plenty of 'boring' dive watches which will cost you 3K plus, of which, 2.5K will be for the name. Nothing wrong with Citizen being on the dial 🙂
When you opened the container and did the reveal my first thought was "Oh, that's quite nice actually" and was reminded of unboxing my San Martin 62mas homage.
I am a big fan of Citizen watches and have quite a few divers. This one at the price point wouldn’t be my first choice by far. I will still take a Citizen over a Seiko anytime.
@@wintermute8315 haha and if you wanted 80% more quality control issues and boat anchor weights, get a Seiko ;) P.S. Enjoy those non existent warranty support services from Seiko :P I had to send two off in the last year for laughably bad bezel dramas and another for a faulty movement. 2x bezel fixes took 3 months to get back to me. The faulty movement one took 5 months. I sent a Citizen in for a movement service after 8 years of no care and it was back in 5 weeks good to go.
It's not the best watch in the world but there's definitely things to like about it. I like the head on view. My main problem would be the side on view and the mismatch of the bezel. It's crying out for a matched titanium look with a coin edge and if it had that I'd consider buying it for the right price.
I’ll be honest, my eyes lit up when I saw this! Definitely subjective .. It’s one of the nicest Citizen models I’ve seen in a long while. Mostly they’re way too over complicated and the display window in a Jewellers just turns into a blur, but this is absolutely on the nail for me. 😊👍
It’s not that it’s boring, it’s just … conventional. It’s just paying for demonstrable durability, and actually there’s nothing wrong with that. Still a lot less than a Rolex sub, and if you think about it, it looks a lot better than Rolex’s more recent Sub offerings.
Citizens are good looking, well made, no nonsense tool watches and I think your distaste for this one relates to your prioritization of gimmicks and glitter
Wow Jody ! Kind of surprised ! I Love my Blue and Black versions ! I don’t know… hmmmmm . Rolex looks back, 10’s of Thousands , Tudor looks Back, a couple of Thousands but if Citizen looks back for UNDER a Grand and it’s a Meh 🫤 form You !!! Say no more !! You watch snob you !! Lol 😂…. Only kidding but I love both of mine still. Take care and keep up the Great work. Eric
I honestly really like the design of this watch.. more so than any of the Citizen divers that I have encountered. The only shortcoming of this watch is the light bezel action, but really not too bad for the price.
Love this watch, functional, no nonsense, unpretentious, the beauty is in the clean and simple design, right up my street, I'd love it to be my next Citizen, I have 2 Promasters and they get by far the most wrist time out of my modest collection of 17 watches, I guess we all like different things and that's what makes life interesting, but Jody's just wrong on this one 😉
In an era of garish over designed divers, I find this “boring”, I would say “classic”, design quite refreshing! Then again, I tend to gravitate towards field watches, so that’s why this appeals to me more than many modern divers.
Lately, there seems to be an overload of micro brands trying to out do each other with what I would call "jumping the shark" designs. These are of no interest to me. I appreciate Citizen in their approach. This is a faithful recreation of their 70's diver with modern coated titanium, sapphire crystal, and 9000 movement. The only changes I'd make are to offer a titanium bracelet on both colors and to engrave a picture of the original "Barnacle" on the case back.
Boring and vanilla for some. It’s utilitarian, lightweight, practical and carefree for me. I’m 52 and no longer need to flex my worth. Might grab one when I go get my white New Balance trainers.
Jody normally I hang firmly on your lips and am fit always your opinion. But here you are miles off the mark. I have had the watch for almost a year and still find it very exciting and beautiful. It glows like a flashlight in the dark and the glass phase combined with the dial makes many Seikos fade into the background. In addition, an excellent movement that runs very well. Its simple beauty makes it a keeper with me. Only the rubber strap is not to my taste. It was replaced with a vintage oriented rubber strap from Oris. Now the watch is just awesome.
@@JustOneMoreWatch that's your subjective opinion. Maybe you should be open to the possibility that some of your reviews might, just might, be wrong. I think this is a hit for Citizen and the passage of time might show that your review is on the wrong side of history.
Awesome watch, I love how it looks like my SBDC 105 but I don't like the Citizen's noisy rotor. Adorable kittens can't hide the rotor noise unfortunately.
In my opinion, this is a beautiful watch. As an owner of several Citizen watches, I have no complains about them, love each one of them, and although I´m not sure if I would get this one or not, I don´t care if this one is boring. It looks like a beautiful classy piece from an excellent brand.
I think that's a lovely watch - I think it will appeal to someone looking for a sub homage. Accept the comment about the crown being too small, though. I'd definitely have an eco-drive version at about half the price.
Don't understand the Citzen hate. "They're too blingy....or they're too boring...or they're not a Seiko!". Have had my Citizen Blue Angels World Chronograph for 7+ years and still love it.
Boring is good!! I really have been lusting after this watch for the past month. JOMW I would challenge you to find an alternative to this watch! ...I guess I would challenge you to best black submariner style watches, I think this would take the cake
Lol - I think it looks pretty cool. It's a dive watch. I like the black on black. But I wear black t shirts and black jackets. As you said wears well, comfortable and I'm sure looks great with the right clothes. I think you are being a little harsh here.....
I love this watch, for some it may scratch that explorer itch. It is light on the wrist and is understated. Have to disagree with you on this one. Citizen hit it out the park with this one. I got mine for $556 US. Just wish citizen and Seiko would do better with bracelet design.
Beauty in simplicity. Great review though. For what you pay you do seem to get a lot of dullness with this Citizen; I can understand why Seiko fans would pass this over: the excitement of paying over a thousand dollars or euros or pounds for a Seiko with a misaligned bezel, rattling end links and an absurdly huge 44 or 45 mm case is one hell of an experience.
The thing with the packaging, the dealer decides which kind of packaging you, the silver bottle or yellow or even the plain cardboard box. This has nothing todo with the watch itself, you can get the $200 Promaster diver with the yellow bottle. The blue one with the titanium bracelet is still on my shortlist, hard fighting against the new Sumo GMTs. The movement is rather new, is it not? The 9051 is pretty well build movement from my understanding, runs pretty consistent unlike Seikos offering. I personally like that aggressive chamfer of the sapphire.
I like it a-lot! Its minimalist , its practical from a long standing manufacturer with an in-house movement. Its original, it's the real. What's not to like? Its balanced and toolish. Oh thank goodness, its not another bloody Chinese knock off designed watch! So sick of them! I think its handsome and the kind of watch that our father's would have put on and forgotten about and worn for years and years without issue. Im 62 now and have owned from the cheap as chips to the bloody ridiculous in cost. I think your criticisms are valid for you Jody . However, I suspect this watch will appeal to normal people (those not suffering with watch collectors syndrome). I for one now gravitate to watches with original designs. This watch is a counterfoil a good juxtaposition if you will, to the shiny bling ,over rated sometimes hysterical and mostly pointless state of the modern watch market today. Rolex being a case in point. I own a very sturdy 16610, pre ceramic Sub. Had it from new. (1991). It has a lot of parallels with this watch with regard to basic design with it's toolish attention and function following form ,illustrating for me how silly the new incarnation watch 'jewellery' has become . Watches and wonders!! OMG! What a silly collection of fawning vids I have had to endure. Yes, your right, I'm not watching them anymore. Oh, Im one of those afflicted watch nuts! Oh well , i'm condemned forever I fear. keep up the good work Jody
Yeah, thank god it's not one of those chinese knock-offs. It's a totally original Citizen with those mercedes hands out of a Rolex, bezel out of an SKX and their own in-house Miyota.
This is essentially my problem with Citizen. They out spec Seiko (even on the high end), their QC is better (on the low end), but their designs generally are bland and I’m not interested. Show me a Citizen, and I will likely pass. Show me a Seiko and I’ll be so hyped that I’m willing to take my chances in the bezel/QC and accuracy lottery.
I usually like a bit of flair but I don't mind this one. It is boring but in a good way? also I don't mind the different metals for case/bezel gives it that bit of light play interest. Was it cadisen that used to do a tungsten bezel on a steel case?
YMMV, personally I think it's pretty cool that they made a homage to a classic diver with lots of horological history and made it into something that uses modern technologies and represents excellent value for money. A similarly specced Seiko diver is 2 1/2 times the price and probably uses a shitty and unreliable 6R movement. Personally I would pick this over most of Seikos new offerings and would even consider it over some of the more expensive Swiss offerings.
The 9015 and other high-end miyota movements are my favourite ones - I rarely hear them in day to day use, they run really well, theyre thin and high beat. Id pick them every day over a seiko or even an eta 2824.
Well. Another one that disagrees. I bought it in the weeks after its release and currently is one of the handful I have not flipped. Has a great story to it and I think it’s a Seiko killer. No accuracy or QC issues. I love it so much, I bought the blue one’s bracelet for my black one.
I think it's a generally good safe offering with some misses. As you mentioned, the case has an edge that's almost chamfered but not, the crown could be more functional... But as far as the overall package, you get a vintage style diver with real heritage in a titanium case, which really isn't bad at all at the 600 USD price point.
Another great review, Jody. I’d probably have to be a hardcore Citizen fanboy to go for this one. At that price? No thanks. There are too many more interesting choices for that amount of money.
In America house have what you call curb appeal. It means the house looks great form the curb. Generally, it also means the house is more style over subustance. A work friend of mine was thinking of buying a house. He was figured he was going to get married in two years, and he and wife would pick a house. His father was going to gift him the down payment. His father came down, and we drove around on our lunch break. We, looked at houses, most of which his wife liked. They had big roofs, with fake gables, and colored roof tiles. They had an open flour plan, which made it seem big, but you just lost rooms, and and upper floor. The kitchens had stone counter tops of various tupes. These place had great first impressions, but that's all. The doors were all foam core. The material was substanderd which was up to code now. They were all sitting on plotes of land the size of potage stamps. Then we passed a mid century modern brick home built in the late sixties. The origional owern still lived their. The cellar was dry, and bit dusty. In my area, it's a minor mircle to have dry cellar. The back yard was level with the cellar, and it was all open. It was like small country club. Window facing a back yard, and pool. You could see down on the citly from the bar in the cellar. The rest of the house was amazing, but it had no eye appeal. Best of all, it was just a little of the down payment of the other houses. The fater and I wanted him to buy it. The guy was afraid of what his wife would say. So the fahter just bought, and told his son he could live in for now. The son is living in the house now. His wife is not happy, but gives a flying fuck. She can't take the house in a divorce. I go there once week and have a steak in his back yard. Play a little pool in his cellar, and watch the cityy lights down below. That watch is just to expensive.
I got the exact one , wearing like every day and it is super tough watch , super light weight, super accurate than Seiko’s 6R movement. Plus 5 years warranty. I fully recommend this watch
Thanks for the video - I still can't get my head around how they make the "Super Titanium" so tough. Crazy that more companies haven't invested into this kind of tech (I can only think of "Sinn" and "Seiko" with the Seiko's one not being that great to be honest)
This watch is gorgeous, it's got a lovely understated, classic style, a combination of design elements that just comes together and works in that way that the most iconic watches do. Bit overpriced and I'd like the crystal to be a bit clearer though
I agree with you, somewhat. The black one looks quite “ordinary,” but the blue one looks great!! I happen to love titanium, and the crystal looks beautiful. Shame you don’t do blue, Jody.
Hold on for a sec, Jody. C'mon man 😂 A Seiko 62mas or similar is equally boring, it comes with a terrible 3hz movement (for the price) and you have to face the true possibility of ending up with an expensive watch which bezel doesn't align properly. And this is a titanium watch with a reliable hi-beat movement in it. You can't even have that nowadays if you buy a Certina DS action diver or any Swatch group diver for under $2000. I understand this is your opinion, sure, and no one can be objective because we all have stuff influencing what we think about this or that, but I tend to believe you are being a bit too demanding here.
As someone who only buys really, really weird watches (e.g. bronze case Seagull, Antarctic special edition Vostok, Vietnam special forces re-issue Seiko), I love the idea of having at least one boring watch in the collection. Maybe this could be the one!
You're too young to appreciate the 70's vibe this one rocks. I friggin love it, black dial on Ti bracelet. Great lume, on the fly ajustable beautiful bracelet Guess you are more into the tacky stuff 😂 Disclaimer: video not sponsored by Citizen
I love this watch... Simple, classic, no frills, diver. Wish it had been one of their more recient Eco-Dive movements, and had the option/inclusion of a braclet. Those are my only "moans & niggles"
This watch is soon to be on my wrist! I have a 12 year old ecodrive promaster 200 that I love and this Titanium version seems better in every way. They really should use a slightly bigger crown and do something, anything, with the caseback.
Shoutout to Mr P for another watch loan and Jody for another fun video. I agree for the $$$ you'd expect some colour and the rotor noise is off putting but I really like the look although more colours would be welcomed! 👍
All titanium is very cool. UPDATE- Just saw the full Ti version in Tokyo. Looks good on the screen, but in person it looks a bit cheap. Also, what's the deal with 40 hour power reserve? If you're going to mimic the Pegalos, then at least get the 70 hour power reserve. Mido has a nice all Ti diver with day, date, and 70 hours... ;-)
I think the appeal of this watch is that it’s “boring”. It’s purely functional, a true tool. Do good hammers have extra beveling and polishing and intricate carvings on the handle? No, they’re no nonsense and built to serve a purpose. I think that’s why I like this one.
I love it. It is beautiful within the aesthetic proposal of a 70’s utility quasi military diver. Something that IDF or Roya Ordinance Clearing divers would use. I would buy it...
Jodie...I very much think the majority of watch enthusiasts will disagree with you over this one. It's so good to see citizen pair back their designs to something that watch enthusiasts really enjoy. The majority of citizens other designs are too large and aggressive to be worn on a daily basis. It's not boring...it's a fantastic watch
Totally agree. And we can always change the strap, to bring new life and joy to a watch.
No comment. I wear mines with pride and joy daily
Boring isn't for everyone. I prefer simple designs like this lol. I think it looks great and balanced, and would be giddy with excitement to own one, but on a bracelet.
This watch has no simplistic design, there's features everywhere. Only it's things we've seen millions of times before. That's what makes this one boring.
What ever your opinion there's nothing wrong with simple clean designs, it's a great everyday quality tool watch. I'm not into Mercedes hands to be fair, they are over done at this point but I'm digging the aluminium bezel. I like my watches to develop their own patina, I think all these watches with sapphire bezel inserts are going to look a bit weird when the watch starts to get a bit beaten up but the insert remains pristine.
I think the black only comes in rubber. Blue comes with a bracelet.
I've got the blue version and I love it (yes, the crown is too small).
True, but you can have a simple watch and still stand out or have a bit of it's own signature. This watch is nearly as dull as it gets. It would be much nicer to get a Victorinox alternative.
I love it. Faithful retro release, no embarrassing, orange fake aged lume, finally something that has an appropriate aluminium bezel for a vintage design, it's a proper diver's watch on top of that. Exactly my cup of tea! Just the price that is a bit more than I would have liked it to be and the non branded strap are actually the only disappointments I can share here.
I think I saw o another video the strap is also faithful to the original watch
Looks incredible imo. If this is boring, so is a Rolex Sub or a Pelagos.
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Rolex can't be boring, it has 29 lines of text printed on the face, for your reading leisure.
I bet it gets a bit boring when people keep saying "is that a real one" though 😆
@@wtfiswiththosehandles lol true 😂
I think the Submariner is supremely boring. Feels like someone i've seen everywhere. If i had one i fear the honeymoon would last one hour.
I have to say, I like it! Would anyone fault a Submariner or a 62MAS for being black and white and therefore call either of them bland? I like the case shape and the fact it has that hardening coating that by the way you don't get on a Tudor Pelagos. And the rubber strap may be sterile but it suits the watch and it looks like good quality.
62 mas is sunburst gray
Haha....sorry but you will find many who will disagree with you Jody. I reckon this is one of the best looking Citizen divers ever !
Most people in the comment section seems to think that he really dropped the ball on this one... And so do I.
@@TheMainCore dropped the ball? It's his opinion. Dropping the ball would be giving a poor quality review, not disagreeing with you
@@TheMainCore Aye. Different opinions are WRONG aren't they.🙄
Personally I think for once Citizen nailed a watch with the essence of masculinity. Gets the job done without being a glib pratt!!! Well done Citizen!!!
I love boring watches, just straight forward tool watch. I paid US$ 545 for mine. Love the boring look of this watch.
500 for a citizen ? Lol you can get a real watch for that money
@@onraj9mmsold it for $650🤑
@@JB-qt8eh should have kept and enjoyed it
@@onraj9mmPray tell what the stellar alternative would be
@@onraj9mmCitizen are a real watch
Nobody’s perfect, everyone can be wrong sometimes, Jody 😂 I for once disagree… this watch looks absolutely great in my opinion…
I have to respectfully disagree ( 😃 ). I bought one of these recently and love it. Wonderfully light owing to the titanium construction, which I know makes some think it (and other titanium watches) has a "cheap" feel. Faithful to the design of the original Challenge diver, with some updates (ISO rating, 200m water resistance, titanium case). I wore it after wearing my Seiko Arnie and thought, "Crikey, this looks small"... but after a few hours of wearing it something clicked and I realised that it's dimensions were perfect, and I was just used to wearing that huge Arnie with its Tuna case. (FWIW, I have a wrist size somewhere between 7 and 7.5 inches, so I'm not a pipsqueak with noodle arms by any stretch of the imagination.) I don't mind the noisy movement if it's as accurate as this one seems to be (at least, in my experience with it).
I have two small caveats: I'd love a larger, signed buckle on the strap; and the bezel action is admittedly a little "tinny" and thin. At a push, I'd say that I'd also prefer a matte dial than the glossy dial this has - or alternatively, some AR coating on the inside of the crystal. But I can live with both of those for now (and eventually put most of my watches on after-market straps, anyway).
Cheers for the review.
Knew we’d disagree sooner or later lol. I’ve got the blue version on a bracelet and it’s got a certain X factor for me that just works. And in a world where Tudor are celebrated for releasing the same watch with a slight variation every year and Seiko charge thousands of dollars for a watch they will eventually repackage into a $700 watch a few years later, I appreciate citizens decidedly middle of the road approach to an archive watch (something they rarely do to begin with, which is also refreshing in this landscape of retro reissue mania)
I agree - I really like it. Unpretentious solidness.
I love it but I mean to be fair he does rave about some gaudy tat sometimes😂
Citizenhave an entire section of their website dedicated to re-issues and revivals, mostly digis also the Square promaster from last year was a r-issue as was the Orca, their heritage miners just like everyone else. imho
@@jamesblonde2271 maybe I should’ve worded that better. They rarely do reissues in the sense that reissues are not the core of their brand, as they are for most brands these days. When citizen reissues it’s usually something fun and niche. In the case of the challenge diver the average watch collector would be forgiven for not even realizing it’s a reissue given how purely functional and non ornamental they decided to go with it, which is a respectable approach to a reissue imo
@@ichris2011 gotcha
It's not the most exciting watch that's ever been offered, sure. But for many people, they want something functional, reliable and which doesn't draw any sort of attention to itself. This is perfect for those people. The fact that Jody finds it relatively boring is hardly surprising: he's handled a TON of wild and weird watches.
I think the price point plays into it, too. This looks like the most bland Citizen you could find in a department store while costing five times as much. And, I am a Citizen fan. I have Promasters, dress watches and even the titanium Promaster EcoDrive in the scuba tank. If you're getting toward Oris pricing, Citizen will become the new Invicta. Just my opinion.
Regarding the fact that it's a titanium watch with a 4hz movement I don't think it's expensive at all.
Without hearing the brand, I would have said Citizen. I will say, I just bought an Endeavor model diver and I like it better than my Seiko 5 auto.
I mean, it's still boring nonetheless. This is the type of watch that I'd likely ask someone what they are wearing and then immediately regret asking or seeing it. Because now I'd feel like I need to at least look a little interested despite wanting nothing more to do with it.
@@legumbro, very true, but it's expensive for its presence... or lack of...
I love this watch and am thinking of adding this to my collection. Not boring 😊
It's a Citizen...rarely the most exciting designs with them. That said, this one doesn't look particularly boring either. Certainly not the most boring watch you've reviewed so far this year 😄
I dunno, I mean they have quite a few watches that have design ques that separate them from the norm. My gripe is that they mostly seem to be 44mm or bigger so kudos for making a 41mm dive watch. That's kind of a big deal for Citizen.
@strongandco The sizing is just a Citizen Watch group flaw period bc Bulova has scant few sub 42 mm watches for men.
@cam-yu8wu On the contrary, Citizen has some of the most innovative designs in the past few years. Have a look at the Series 8, the Chronomaster series. Even the cheaper solar models are nice, like the Orca and the Ecozilla. On the opposite, I think Seiko has boring designs, reusing the same cases over and over for the past 50 years (Tuna, Turtle or SKX).
One of The Greatest releases made in the last years. Super cool looking, titanium, strapmonster. What's not to love? Everyone I know who got it absolutely LOVE it, and so do I.
People are mad it doesn't have a crappy 6R movement, cost $2K and have a Prospex logo on it.
@@satya.anandakrishnan Yeah, and unfortunately Jody is at his core, a Seiko enthusiast and very rarely does that mean open and honest reviews of its main competitor.
Look at Jody gush countless times over mediocre spec 6R movement Seiko's that have the same level of QC as their $200 watches and still fail with low grade bracelets.
They even sell $2,500 prospex models with modified 6R's for office GMTs lol Its remarkable what gets a free pass with Seiko people and I am a Seiko fan with several 62mas reissues.
@@awdtw Tbh the 6r series is fucking terrible,it's absolutely atrocious
I actually really love it and think it looks awesome. Guess I'm into boring designs. I love the simplicity and that everything is visible and legible at a glance without a fuss.
To each their own, I love a nice simple dial/watch and this citizen is very similar to the seiko 62 MAS reissue which everyone raves about (and rightfully so) but this citizen is better! In my opinion it's got an awesome backstory especislly for a dive watch!! Plus it's simple elegant, and titanium so has some unique features while still coming with the standard (but great) dimensions!
Super titanium and a Hi-beat antimagnetic movent is definitely NOT BORING. Great watch with great history.
I agree that it's not ground breaking looks but can you think of any other 4hz certified diver for under USD700? Glad to see the kittens again!
….add in titanium too! There aren’t many about.
Helm Miyako for $375?! Sooooooooooooo many others if you are OK with 200m or 300m. I'd take a cheaper Citizen with more character plus the change, as I said. Cheers!
@@JustOneMoreWatch Way too fussy.
@@JustOneMoreWatchwhy ? Why did you have to mention this Miyako watch ? I looked it up … I am now am on a waiting list …but I do like this citizen watch ..
I think it's awesome, and a likely a great watch if you don't already have a drawer full of similar watches. If Citizen has released it back in '18 when I was getting "into" watches I'd have one on the way... Since it's not 2018, and I have a GSAR already, I don't have a Citizen "Barnacle" headed my way.
I will say that I find it a bit unfair to hammer on Citizen for "boring" in a world where people spend thousands of dollars for a similarly boring BB58 or Submariner...
I feel like we are quite similar in watch preferences, affection for flexible, universal, possibly mundane designs in general, also typing this with a GSAR on my wrist. I think for the "Boring" watch to work, like the BB58 and Submariner, they need to be plain, timeless, and cohesive. I think the BB58 and Submariner meet those criteria, but I don't think this watch does, personally. This kind of feels like the kind of watch I'd expect to see if Citizen had excess parts inventory and combined what was lying around into a single watch. I also don't feel like it represents its price tier well. I think you can get more interesting or more refined watches, whichever is your preference, for that amount of money. The boring watch is usually the safe watch, so I agree it's appeal increases if you're looking for a single dive watch to buy. I just don't think I would recommend this one.
@DallenRex while I agree it's not a spec/value monster for its price, it's a better deal than anything the other big brands make around that price in my mind.
I'd recommend it to anyone looking to buy one good/great diver. That said, I'd also recommend the CW C60 300, if someone wanted a bit more flash.
Exactly!!! Having myself a Tudor BB and a Rolex Sub, all recently bought, I wonder why is he calling this Citizen watch boring!?!?!?
@@Not_me9791 He has been a long term Citizen basher / Seiko fanboi. He is willing to gush over $1,800 seikos that don't have signed crowns, aren't titanium, have common alignment issues and terrible, terrible bracelets and lower grade movements.
He is not willing to give much ground for a watch that so many other reviewers have given legitimate praise (and negatives) to.
Jody is grasping and likely trying to get some TH-cam algorithm magic from the activity on this one since it was far from his normal behaviour in a review.
I purchased the black on rubber from the Citizen flagship store while on a recent trip to Tokyo and I absolutely love it. My collection includes Rolex, Cartier, Breitling, Omega, Longines, Sinn …. You get the idea. But I LOVE the simplicity of the watch, the weight, and the 70’s vibe. It’s running at +5 a day, It’s understated, and it just works.
I don't hate this watch and normally I find Citizen's to be too busy or clunky for my likes. They just do not usually grab my attention. This is one of the few I have seen that I would happily wear though. To each their own :).
Love this simple design. It's simple but looks well executed. It's classic and understated. I think a price of around 700 USD is okay 1200 USD is a Bit much
The black citizen titanium sells for 900aud in stores here in Australia, starbuy and others. It has also been on sale for less. Even the blue one with the really nice titanium bracelet has been as low as 900 on sales.
The only reason he has gone on about RRP is because it sounds dramatic.
@@awdtw Aha, just looked it up. Here in Germany you can get it for around 580 to 600 Euro on the rubber strap.
jody i think you might be a victim of puffed up expectations on this one, its a fine watch, even pretty cool to many! but if you come from 50 watches a year and great reviews, a well done dive watch with a classic design may underwhelm?
It's no more boring than any Tudor I've seen.
Haha.
Do you have any Tudor?
I disagree, I love the two tone black bay chrono
Or Rolex for that matter!
Seriously, I dont understand the Tudor hype train.
I was excited when it came out but disappointed when I finally got one... until I started wearing it. Now it's my favorite.
I think it looks great. A proper tool watch for diving
Well, it's been a long time coming, but we'll agree to disagree on this one.
A good, honest, down to earth watch. No pretentions to be something it isn't.
I've seen plenty of 'boring' dive watches which will cost you 3K plus, of which, 2.5K will be for the name.
Nothing wrong with Citizen being on the dial 🙂
The big problem is the price point. I wouldn't say it's boring. More of a no nonsense classic design.
Spot on. The Casio Duro is equally 'boring' but at that price point it's excused.
Yes, I like it. I would buy the blue dial myself. It is all about personal taste. It's not spectacular, but it is good quality.
When you opened the container and did the reveal my first thought was "Oh, that's quite nice actually" and was reminded of unboxing my San Martin 62mas homage.
I am a big fan of Citizen watches and have quite a few divers. This one at the price point wouldn’t be my first choice by far. I will still take a Citizen over a Seiko anytime.
Me too!
Yeah, if I ever want a Seiko design made 20% uglier and 30% blander, I'll pick up a Citizen.
@@wintermute8315 The world would be totally boring if everyone thought the same.
@@wintermute8315 to each his own
@@wintermute8315 haha and if you wanted 80% more quality control issues and boat anchor weights, get a Seiko ;)
P.S. Enjoy those non existent warranty support services from Seiko :P I had to send two off in the last year for laughably bad bezel dramas and another for a faulty movement.
2x bezel fixes took 3 months to get back to me. The faulty movement one took 5 months.
I sent a Citizen in for a movement service after 8 years of no care and it was back in 5 weeks good to go.
It's not the best watch in the world but there's definitely things to like about it. I like the head on view. My main problem would be the side on view and the mismatch of the bezel. It's crying out for a matched titanium look with a coin edge and if it had that I'd consider buying it for the right price.
I’ll be honest, my eyes lit up when I saw this! Definitely subjective .. It’s one of the nicest Citizen models I’ve seen in a long while. Mostly they’re way too over complicated and the display window in a Jewellers just turns into a blur, but this is absolutely on the nail for me.
😊👍
Sounds like somebody got out of the wrong side of the bed this morning. Tell us what you really think Jody!
It’s not that it’s boring, it’s just … conventional. It’s just paying for demonstrable durability, and actually there’s nothing wrong with that. Still a lot less than a Rolex sub, and if you think about it, it looks a lot better than Rolex’s more recent Sub offerings.
Personally I love it Jody & plan to buy one. It’s party time! 🎉🍾🤪
Citizens are good looking, well made, no nonsense tool watches and I think your distaste for this one relates to your prioritization of gimmicks and glitter
I do love a bit of glitter Eli, that's for sure.
Wow Jody ! Kind of surprised ! I Love my Blue and Black versions ! I don’t know… hmmmmm . Rolex looks back, 10’s of Thousands , Tudor looks Back, a couple of Thousands but if Citizen looks back for UNDER a Grand and it’s a Meh 🫤 form You !!! Say no more !! You watch snob you !! Lol 😂…. Only kidding but I love both of mine still. Take care and keep up the Great work. Eric
I honestly really like the design of this watch.. more so than any of the Citizen divers that I have encountered. The only shortcoming of this watch is the light bezel action, but really not too bad for the price.
Love this watch, functional, no nonsense, unpretentious, the beauty is in the clean and simple design, right up my street, I'd love it to be my next Citizen, I have 2 Promasters and they get by far the most wrist time out of my modest collection of 17 watches, I guess we all like different things and that's what makes life interesting, but Jody's just wrong on this one 😉
Respectfully I have to disagree with you on this Jody. I would definitely buy this! 😍
I like the clean simple design. Cons: that rounded bezel edge and high price.
In an era of garish over designed divers, I find this “boring”, I would say “classic”, design quite refreshing! Then again, I tend to gravitate towards field watches, so that’s why this appeals to me more than many modern divers.
Lately, there seems to be an overload of micro brands trying to out do each other with what I would call "jumping the shark" designs. These are of no interest to me. I appreciate Citizen in their approach. This is a faithful recreation of their 70's diver with modern coated titanium, sapphire crystal, and 9000 movement. The only changes I'd make are to offer a titanium bracelet on both colors and to engrave a picture of the original "Barnacle" on the case back.
Boring and vanilla for some. It’s utilitarian, lightweight, practical and carefree for me. I’m 52 and no longer need to flex my worth. Might grab one when I go get my white New Balance trainers.
A bit harsh, Jody?
Jody normally I hang firmly on your lips and am fit always your opinion. But here you are miles off the mark.
I have had the watch for almost a year and still find it very exciting and beautiful. It glows like a flashlight in the dark and the glass phase combined with the dial makes many Seikos fade into the background. In addition, an excellent movement that runs very well.
Its simple beauty makes it a keeper with me.
Only the rubber strap is not to my taste.
It was replaced with a vintage oriented rubber strap from Oris. Now the watch is just awesome.
Seems like you've been handling too many fruity micro brands, cause this one is pure class.
Pure boredom! Could and should have been better, even if they wanted to keep it simple.
@@JustOneMoreWatch that's your subjective opinion. Maybe you should be open to the possibility that some of your reviews might, just might, be wrong. I think this is a hit for Citizen and the passage of time might show that your review is on the wrong side of history.
Awesome watch, I love how it looks like my SBDC 105 but I don't like the Citizen's noisy rotor. Adorable kittens can't hide the rotor noise unfortunately.
Third for me today but that citizen looks like a great daily wear haha 😊
In my opinion, this is a beautiful watch. As an owner of several Citizen watches, I have no complains about them, love each one of them, and although I´m not sure if I would get this one or not, I don´t care if this one is boring. It looks like a beautiful classy piece from an excellent brand.
I think that's a lovely watch - I think it will appeal to someone looking for a sub homage. Accept the comment about the crown being too small, though. I'd definitely have an eco-drive version at about half the price.
This watch seem NOT boring to me at all. It looks very interesting and very versatile.
Don't understand the Citzen hate. "They're too blingy....or they're too boring...or they're not a Seiko!".
Have had my Citizen Blue Angels World Chronograph for 7+ years and still love it.
I think it's better than the various Seiko divers on the market. Plus, it lines up perfectly.
Boring is good!! I really have been lusting after this watch for the past month. JOMW I would challenge you to find an alternative to this watch! ...I guess I would challenge you to best black submariner style watches, I think this would take the cake
An alternative? The SPB143 is right there, looking better than this in every way.
You mean the RRP $1,800 lesser quality movement boat anchor of a watch with around 50-50 bezel alignment failures and no signed crown? Oh....
Citizen, love them. I wear : Citizen, Casio, Armitron & Bremont for work. The Citizen, I'd wear on a NATO strap. That would give it some colour.
Lol - I think it looks pretty cool. It's a dive watch. I like the black on black. But I wear black t shirts and black jackets. As you said wears well, comfortable and I'm sure looks great with the right clothes. I think you are being a little harsh here.....
For once Jody. I think you got it wrong this time 😅 This is actually fire
Sorry, but this is indeed one of the prettiest skin divers I have come across!!! Honestly!
I love this watch, for some it may scratch that explorer itch. It is light on the wrist and is understated. Have to disagree with you on this one. Citizen hit it out the park with this one. I got mine for $556 US. Just wish citizen and Seiko would do better with bracelet design.
Beauty in simplicity.
Great review though.
For what you pay you do seem to get a lot of dullness with this Citizen;
I can understand why Seiko fans would pass this over: the excitement of paying over a thousand dollars or euros or pounds for a Seiko with a misaligned bezel, rattling end links and an absurdly huge 44 or 45 mm case is one hell of an experience.
Where'd you get that blue rubber strap that tapered out a little outside of the lugs before tapering back down ?
The thing with the packaging, the dealer decides which kind of packaging you, the silver bottle or yellow or even the plain cardboard box.
This has nothing todo with the watch itself, you can get the $200 Promaster diver with the yellow bottle.
The blue one with the titanium bracelet is still on my shortlist, hard fighting against the new Sumo GMTs.
The movement is rather new, is it not? The 9051 is pretty well build movement from my understanding, runs pretty consistent unlike Seikos offering.
I personally like that aggressive chamfer of the sapphire.
I like it a-lot! Its minimalist , its practical from a long standing manufacturer with an in-house movement. Its original, it's the real. What's not to like? Its balanced and toolish. Oh thank goodness, its not another bloody Chinese knock off designed watch! So sick of them! I think its handsome and the kind of watch that our father's would have put on and forgotten about and worn for years and years without issue. Im 62 now and have owned from the cheap as chips to the bloody ridiculous in cost. I think your criticisms are valid for you Jody . However, I suspect this watch will appeal to normal people (those not suffering with watch collectors syndrome). I for one now gravitate to watches with original designs. This watch is a counterfoil a good juxtaposition if you will, to the shiny bling ,over rated sometimes hysterical and mostly pointless state of the modern watch market today. Rolex being a case in point. I own a very sturdy 16610, pre ceramic Sub. Had it from new. (1991). It has a lot of parallels with this watch with regard to basic design with it's toolish attention and function following form ,illustrating for me how silly the new incarnation watch 'jewellery' has become . Watches and wonders!! OMG! What a silly collection of fawning vids I have had to endure. Yes, your right, I'm not watching them anymore. Oh, Im one of those afflicted watch nuts! Oh well , i'm condemned forever I fear. keep up the good work Jody
Yeah, thank god it's not one of those chinese knock-offs. It's a totally original Citizen with those mercedes hands out of a Rolex, bezel out of an SKX and their own in-house Miyota.
This is essentially my problem with Citizen. They out spec Seiko (even on the high end), their QC is better (on the low end), but their designs generally are bland and I’m not interested.
Show me a Citizen, and I will likely pass.
Show me a Seiko and I’ll be so hyped that I’m willing to take my chances in the bezel/QC and accuracy lottery.
I usually like a bit of flair but I don't mind this one. It is boring but in a good way? also I don't mind the different metals for case/bezel gives it that bit of light play interest.
Was it cadisen that used to do a tungsten bezel on a steel case?
YMMV, personally I think it's pretty cool that they made a homage to a classic diver with lots of horological history and made it into something that uses modern technologies and represents excellent value for money. A similarly specced Seiko diver is 2 1/2 times the price and probably uses a shitty and unreliable 6R movement. Personally I would pick this over most of Seikos new offerings and would even consider it over some of the more expensive Swiss offerings.
The 9015 and other high-end miyota movements are my favourite ones - I rarely hear them in day to day use, they run really well, theyre thin and high beat. Id pick them every day over a seiko or even an eta 2824.
Well. Another one that disagrees. I bought it in the weeks after its release and currently is one of the handful I have not flipped. Has a great story to it and I think it’s a Seiko killer. No accuracy or QC issues. I love it so much, I bought the blue one’s bracelet for my black one.
I think it's a generally good safe offering with some misses. As you mentioned, the case has an edge that's almost chamfered but not, the crown could be more functional...
But as far as the overall package, you get a vintage style diver with real heritage in a titanium case, which really isn't bad at all at the 600 USD price point.
Another great review, Jody. I’d probably have to be a hardcore Citizen fanboy to go for this one. At that price? No thanks. There are too many more interesting choices for that amount of money.
I like it & especially the lightness of the Ti case, in a world full of heavy chunky divers watches.
In America house have what you call curb appeal. It means the house looks great form the curb. Generally, it also means the house is more style over subustance. A work friend of mine was thinking of buying a house. He was figured he was going to get married in two years, and he and wife would pick a house. His father was going to gift him the down payment. His father came down, and we drove around on our lunch break. We, looked at houses, most of which his wife liked. They had big roofs, with fake gables, and colored roof tiles. They had an open flour plan, which made it seem big, but you just lost rooms, and and upper floor. The kitchens had stone counter tops of various tupes. These place had great first impressions, but that's all. The doors were all foam core. The material was substanderd which was up to code now. They were all sitting on plotes of land the size of potage stamps. Then we passed a mid century modern brick home built in the late sixties. The origional owern still lived their. The cellar was dry, and bit dusty. In my area, it's a minor mircle to have dry cellar. The back yard was level with the cellar, and it was all open. It was like small country club. Window facing a back yard, and pool. You could see down on the citly from the bar in the cellar. The rest of the house was amazing, but it had no eye appeal. Best of all, it was just a little of the down payment of the other houses. The fater and I wanted him to buy it. The guy was afraid of what his wife would say. So the fahter just bought, and told his son he could live in for now. The son is living in the house now. His wife is not happy, but gives a flying fuck. She can't take the house in a divorce. I go there once week and have a steak in his back yard. Play a little pool in his cellar, and watch the cityy lights down below. That watch is just to expensive.
I got the exact one , wearing like every day and it is super tough watch , super light weight, super accurate than Seiko’s 6R movement. Plus 5 years warranty. I fully recommend this watch
I absolutely love it. It's a kick-a$$ tool watch. It's not going to win a fashion show, but who cares?
Getting a bit picky J ... I think it looks good !
Citizen automatics just don't cut it for me. They should stick to what they are good at, which is Eco-Drive quartz.
Thanks for the video - I still can't get my head around how they make the "Super Titanium" so tough. Crazy that more companies haven't invested into this kind of tech (I can only think of "Sinn" and "Seiko" with the Seiko's one not being that great to be honest)
I think it is a great watch
This watch is gorgeous, it's got a lovely understated, classic style, a combination of design elements that just comes together and works in that way that the most iconic watches do. Bit overpriced and I'd like the crystal to be a bit clearer though
“On wrist at least it does wear very nicely…” Admit it, you saw this angle and were like, “…ah, now I get it… the faithful execution is gorgeous.”
I agree with you, somewhat. The black one looks quite “ordinary,” but the blue one looks great!! I happen to love titanium, and the crystal looks beautiful. Shame you don’t do blue, Jody.
couldn't disagree more😊
Hold on for a sec, Jody. C'mon man 😂 A Seiko 62mas or similar is equally boring, it comes with a terrible 3hz movement (for the price) and you have to face the true possibility of ending up with an expensive watch which bezel doesn't align properly. And this is a titanium watch with a reliable hi-beat movement in it. You can't even have that nowadays if you buy a Certina DS action diver or any Swatch group diver for under $2000.
I understand this is your opinion, sure, and no one can be objective because we all have stuff influencing what we think about this or that, but I tend to believe you are being a bit too demanding here.
As someone who only buys really, really weird watches (e.g. bronze case Seagull, Antarctic special edition Vostok, Vietnam special forces re-issue Seiko), I love the idea of having at least one boring watch in the collection. Maybe this could be the one!
You're too young to appreciate the 70's vibe this one rocks. I friggin love it, black dial on Ti bracelet. Great lume, on the fly ajustable beautiful bracelet Guess you are more into the tacky stuff 😂 Disclaimer: video not sponsored by Citizen
The ultimate tool watch, mate.
No. Mate.
I love this watch... Simple, classic, no frills, diver.
Wish it had been one of their more recient Eco-Dive movements, and had the option/inclusion of a braclet.
Those are my only "moans & niggles"
This watch is soon to be on my wrist! I have a 12 year old ecodrive promaster 200 that I love and this Titanium version seems better in every way. They really should use a slightly bigger crown and do something, anything, with the caseback.
Shoutout to Mr P for another watch loan and Jody for another fun video. I agree for the $$$ you'd expect some colour and the rotor noise is off putting but I really like the look although more colours would be welcomed! 👍
Not boring, classic! Love this watch ❤
Its not boring. Its a clean and classic design
All titanium is very cool. UPDATE- Just saw the full Ti version in Tokyo. Looks good on the screen, but in person it looks a bit cheap. Also, what's the deal with 40 hour power reserve?
If you're going to mimic the Pegalos, then at least get the 70 hour power reserve. Mido has a nice all Ti diver with day, date, and 70 hours... ;-)
I think the appeal of this watch is that it’s “boring”. It’s purely functional, a true tool. Do good hammers have extra beveling and polishing and intricate carvings on the handle? No, they’re no nonsense and built to serve a purpose. I think that’s why I like this one.
Actually I like it. I would go for the blue dial on the bracelet.
ooo a citizen promaster! i don't know that it's boring, the price has me gasping a bit!
I love it. It is beautiful within the aesthetic proposal of a 70’s utility quasi military diver. Something that IDF or Roya Ordinance Clearing divers would use. I would buy it...
Well, not paying that price. I would be better with a Steeldive MÁS62 homage, or the Tandorio one... :)
It is an excellent tool watch ,with a grey-man stick. Citizen makes excellent watches and is no more blah than the Seiko 62Mas.C'mon Jody.