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Range Report: Diamondback DB-15 (Sometimes you get what you pay for)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ก.พ. 2024
- In this Range Report I review the DB-15 rifle from Diamondback Firearms. This is an affordable entry level carbine that has a spotty reputation but offers many users familiar options with standard AR-15s. This firearm seems to have a few issues with it and I discover them as I get it to the range. This video documents my person thoughts, opinions and experiences with this rifle. Yours may vary.
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Hello, I need your help. I am French and I have the same weapon. do you know if it is possible to extend the picatinny rail on the top where it stops without having to change the entire handguard? if you have an internet link with the part that allows you to extend the picatinny rail I am interested. thank you friends .
I resigned from Diamondback 3weeks ago. I was a quality technician and CMM programmer. I left on very good terms. I’m sorry for the issues you have with this rifle. I can assure you that (as of three weeks ago) the locations and diameters of the release pin holes, the safety selector switch hole and the trigger pin holes are being inspected per sample inspection of each lot of 100 lowers. The diameters are measures with calibrated pin gages and the locations are measured with a programmable height gage (Tesa Hite). This was not always the case, but it is now. The uppers are purchased and could contribute to or be the problem for the release pins. On my last day Diamondback had just machined their firs upper. It will be meticulously inspected on a Zeiss CMM and all the bugs worked out before they go into full production. They may be in production now, I don’t know. With diamondback controlling both lowers and upper, these issues will go away. As far as the hand guard goes, Diamondback has five CNC’s dedicated to machining hand guards. They mak many different designs. Some are larger. You should look up the new Obsidian model. It has the larger diameter hand guard. I want one of those. I wish I could address the over gassing issue, but I cannot. The barrels are machined in another facility that is close by. I have worked there a couple of times, but I was just filling in for the vacationing QA tech there. The triggers are purchased. Some models have far better triggers. (The “Diamond” and “Black Gold” models)
In the 2.5 years I was there, the quality and mindset of the organization has made a 180 degree shift for the better. If you tested a rifle made today you would like it far better.
I’m sorry for this rifle’s poor performance.
I am glad to hear they are looking to improve and I have no doubt they will be working hard in the future. This might have been a one off, but I can only share with people what I experience. I am not a professional reviewer and like to think I create content that is unbiased. I have no love or hate for any company and want them all to succeed.
@@dalewells5880 I really appreciate this reply. It answered so many questions for me
My first AR was a Diamond back and I never had a problem.
I am glad to hear that.
Going on 12 years and never an issue.
I have mine currently on layaway! ❤
@@thenoobreturnz8968 lol I thought I was the only one
Just bought one yesterday 😌
I've had mine for at least 10 years and it works perfectly never once failed in any way.
I am glad to hear that yours is working so well for you.
I'm not a brand fan boy by any means, I just want the guns to work properly. And I have to say the DB15 I have worked Perfect right out of the box. Just my 2 cents
I am gto hear that. If you are happy with it, that is all that matters.
I've owned 3 diamondbacks. 2 AR-15 and ar10. All them ran great never had an issue or any problems. My ar10 was 308 and stainless steel barrel
I am glad to hear that. I am sure there are plenty that run great.
I just forwarded this and my previous comment to the Diamondback QA director and QA manager. The QA manager responded to me that the “over gassing” issue has recently been brought up to him. He suspects that it may be a barrel issue. I’m no longer there, but I suspect this will be investigated and corrected very soon. Thank you for this review, though it’s not what I want to hear. Please don’t give up on Diamondback. They are moving rapidly to being a supreme quality gun at a very good price.
I like to think I had a small part of that change while I was there.
Thank you for this. I am sure there are amazing people that work there and by no means am I saying anything bad about them as people. I can only comment on the rifle example I reviewed and share what I experienced. In no way do I hate Diamondback or anyone else. I just want to share what I discover with people who may be looking at the rifle and let them make their own choices.
I won a DB15 from a VFW raffle a year and a half ago. Runs smooth for me, I even replaced my circa 2008 Bushmaster with it.
I am glad it works well for you. That is all that is important.
I have 3,000+ rds with my diamondback. Absolutely love it! ❤❤
I am glad yours works so well for you. This was just an example of one.
My DB15 runs great. Came with Magpul furniture. No over gas, no loose trigger pin and my take down pin can be done with my fingers.
Added some aftermarket gear including fold-able sites and a red dot. It's awesome.
I am glad to hear that! Sounds like you made some good upgrades.
I've had my DB15 for almost 4 years and it always functions perfectly. The accuracy is very good especially with heavier bullets. Never had a single jam, stovepipe or any feed issues whatsoever.
That is great to hear and I am glad yours is working so well.
My DB15 works great. It literally eats all the ammo I put in it. Just keep it clean and take care of it. It's a great rifle.
I am glad to hear it. These issues might just be with this example as I stated in the video.
@@thetexasgunvault thanks for the content.
I have a DB15 16” in .300 Blackout. I’ve got just over 700 rounds through it and it has been flawless.
I am glad to hear that.
My takedown pins were great. Fact the entire rifle runs flawlessly
I am glad to hear that!
I have the DB-15 burnt bronze with the quad rail and I love it not one malfunction but I’ve only put about 500 rounds thru it!! I have a holoson sight and magnifier on it and don’t plan on getting rid of it anytime soon!!
I am so happy to hear that yours runs so well!
I just bought a higher end model. I hope I don’t have these issues when I get it.
Definitely will look out for these things you’ve mentioned.
Great video
Thank you and I hope yours runs great!
@@CatchingblissActually I have an issue with it already. I’m sending it back to the manufacturer. The retainer pin is hitting buffer around the rim. I’ve heard many other people have had this same issue. Check your buffer and see if you don’t have this issue as well.
Got my Db15 3 to 4 years ago and it doesn’t just sit in a safe. I put thousands of round through it and not one single issue I love it. Every company sells lemons and unfortunately you got one.
I think you might be right. I am glad yours is working well.
I have a diamondback db-15 i got about 1000 rounds through it. Has run flawlessly i havent even cleaned it yet
I am glad to hear yours runs great. When I review a firearm I only have one example.
@@thetexasgunvault I understand, I hope I don't have any of these issues myself
Crazy must be where there made at or something I have one and fires perfectly fine . Your right about the overgassing tho . Great video brother!
Thank you so much and I am glad yours works so well for you.
Had no issues with mines. Cheap doesn't mean bad and expensive doesn't mean good. Put nearly 2000 rounds through mines with few issues. Most were ammo related and from me not cleaning it during prolong shootings. When the firearm was properly maintained and lubricated it ran flawlessly. Any issues and link to this video should be sent to Diamondback Firearms?
Thank you and your are right. But I can only show my experiences with the guns I get to review.
Nice video as always. I have a DB15, only problem was the hand guard was crooked, rather the mounting of it was crooked I think. I losened it up and retighten it still the front was off center. Didn't even bother putting on iron sights, just went straight with a red dot. Otherwise no complaints about it. Quite accurate for a "low budget" MSR. I bought it as a comparison to my PSA builds... but must say my builds are about as good or even better. But still love my DB15, because it's my. Stay safe Big Jay.
Thank you so much and I am glad to hear yours works well.
I've had my Diamondback DB15 for about 2 years now. I've sent about 500 rounds down range with it since. I've experienced one double feed so far.
That's pretty good.
I have a Db15 DMB model. Absolutely flawless. Keeps up with my DD V7 pro all day. Never an issue. Shoots lighter than other ARs I own
I am glad yours works well for you.
I’m with the other guy…I have a couple of AR’s of almost every manufacturer…I’m old school and don’t like accessories…I will install a new grip, trigger, and maybe a buttstock…other than that ( besides an optic ) that is all I will add differently …my two DB’s are awesome…work fine…as do all my others…AR’s are you simple to modify…whether it be buffers, triggers or BCG’s….easy fixes…if you spend $399 then you have plenty of money to make it very reliable…or just to your liking…sometimes we get very nit-picky…with no reason to be that way…
All good points and I am glad yours is working well for you.
I just bought a diamondback db15 at the local hardware, $480. It came with an magpul stock and grip. It does seem to run a little over gassed, but am thinking about changing to a heavier buffer. So far I am happy with the purchase.
I am glad to hear that. Their quality seems to be spotty and I am happy to hear yours is a better one.
Well I was considering one in .308 once upon a time, with over-gassing possibilities and the weaker MLOK handrail is enough to stear me away. Appreciate the video!
You are welcome!
I think you went into this test with a biased opinion, listening to others first. I own a db15, have had it for 4 years. I have never had one problem with it period! And after more than 600 rounds through the gun, would recommend it to all my buddies!
I am glad yours works well. All I can do is share my experiences with the audience.
My DB10 has been a great rifle. All I have done is change stock and grip with the trigger to a flat face trigger.
It ran with a can on the end that way. So I have no problem with mine.
I am glad you hear that. I am sure that many are fine.
I've never owned a rifle before, but im saving up money to get one. Doing research, Ive narrowed it down to either this, or the Del-Ton echo. If anyone has any opinions about either, Id be happy to hear them. So far, the two of them seem like great options.
I hope you get a nice rifle and I hope it is only your first of many. Congrats and I am super excited to see more people like you getting into the 2nd Amendment.
I have 4 Diamondback DB-15’s the only issue I had was the takedown pin on my 300 blackout was a little tough getting it out but other than that I love the performance, I put a fostech echo trigger in one and it’s a blast
I am glad yours have worked so well for you.
Ive got one, dont have the takedown pin issue but i believe my trigger is probably just as heavy. Ive gotten used to it but will look into the one of the 2 you mentioned.
Sounds like you have a good one.
@thetexasgunvault Ended up installing the Geissele SSA-E 2stage trigger. Freaking awesome and light.
My takedown pins comes out with no problem. I got two diamondbacks and they both slide out without any problems.
I am glad yours works well.
I have a few DiamondBack rifles. I did however changed out the triggers, buffer tubes, springs and stocks. I thought the muzzle brakes were horrible as well so I ended up changing them as well.
Wow! You pretty much changed everything!
The trigger from db15 is one of the best stock ar triggers....
Good morning, Jason, I will take a budget friendly AR any day. Especially if it shoots as well as that one. Cheers I had a thought bubble, is the gun affordable so that it's a base for a custom build, 👍
I do not know if you would want this one. It is way over gassed.
I'm new shooter with very limited experience with guns. I haven't had any complaints. But then, I don't any experience to compare it to.
Welcome to the hobby!
That's good, just enjoy it and don't look for problems that may or may not exist. In the Corps we shot used up M16 A2's and guess what, with minimal range time and proper instruction and the BRASS principle you can shoot any rifle pretty accurately as long as you are cositant
Would it make a difference with the overgasing if you shoot .223 remington out it? Where i live, 556 is not available for purchase but the db15 is available at my local gunstore
I think they would be about the same.
I have the same DB-15, and I have the same over-gassing issue, not to the point of burning my eyes, and have had 1 malfunction in the first magazine, no issues since then. I'm thinking an H3 or 4 buffer to help negate the over-gassing issue.
I think that buffer change might help. That is a great suggestion.
I was wondering what you think of the Smith & Wesson sport ARs Sport 1 and Sport 2 because I own both . I have fired them once and couldn't fire many rounds through them because the gun range would not let me shoot certain ammo but there were no jams or misfires. I have the same stock like the gun you fired and it did have some punishing recoil . I have always seen positive reviews on these guns . Thank you .
I have not had any issues with the S&Ws. I have yet to review one though.
I agree. Thanks, but no thanks. Nothing less than Aero Precision for a budget build. Complete uppers and lowers are solid in my experience.
I agree. Aero makes good stuff for the money.
hell my SD9VE worked from Day 1 rite out of the box until I had a local gun smith try and install an Apex trigger and spring kit ...
I hope it worked out.
What r u talking about I own 2 DB-Copperhead AR-15 and have never had any of the problems u r talking about.Maybe the problems ur finding are not the rifle but the people who own them aren't taking very good care of it.
It is possible but I know and trust the owner of this rifle.
Most issues with budget guns are tolerances and qc stuff
Well, this one has plenty of them.
Thank you I think so too
You're welcome
How to tell manufacturing date on db15
You would have to do a serial number look up and probably contact them.
Man I would love to live in Texas some day.
Why is that?
Oh yeah. The Sound of FREEDOM!!!
Thank you.
Over gas I hear is due to a newer style m2 block they are installing.
That is good know! Thank you for sharing that information! It helps a lot!
That's why I use anti walk trigger pins exclusively.
I think that is a good idea.
I don't like the ping sound it makes when the bolt carrier closes. It sounds cheap. Thanks for the review. Going back to PSA.
I do agree.
You do realize you can change the buffer weight and spring for under $100 and make that gassed perfectly. Ive done it to 2 diamond backs. Spitting brass at 3 oclock now run Like a sewing machine. Cut the recoil in half. I have this same one. But if you cant do these things yourself mabie not the best choice tho. Just got one fde. Even the barrel was ceroketed fde on this newer model for 550. And it comes with the full length 15 in handguard now to.
The gas port is probably out of spec. Changing those things is just putting a band-aid on the problem but not fixing it.
@@thetexasgunvault how does it not fix the problem? If it's doing what it's supposed to with h2 and sprinco extra power spring? Cuts the recoil in half. I get it your right with the gas port is to big. But being able to adjust with a buffer is a good thing. If the port is to small you can't turn it up.. Only option is to drill it.. so I would think being over gassd being able to adjust it with buffer and spring is alot better. Alot more options. If it's under gassed your just screwed period.
I have one. No issues here
I am glad to hear it.
Yeahhh it’s all subjective or personal experience. I have the exact same Db-15 and I haven’t had ANY of the issues you found. Although the butt stock is definitely super aggressive lol
I am glad to hear that yours works so well for you.
My Diamondback never failed…..never
I am glad to hear that.
I wouldn't believe your "friend". Ive never had any issues with my DB15 ever in 6 yrs and ive put enough rounds through it to replace the batrel once. Db rifles are unlike most made all in-house so.parts fit together bettert Business is a dirty trade so you cant trust a business that might have stock in one company to tell you the truth about another that might be a competitor but you can trust the testimony of those whove owned it
Well, I do believe him. He is a good guy and has no reason to lie to me.
@@thetexasgunvault you said he told you they're the most returned rifle, how many would that be? I defend Diamondback for a few reasons one I've never heard of anyone returning their gum nut when the brand first started there was issues in some of the db15 but was quickly fixed. 2 they test a full mag through every hun before it leaves 3 all parts are made in house which lends to heater consistency and fitment of parts i.e. upper to lower and 4 they're an American company employing hundreds of people but most of all my experience has been a great one with Diamondback. I appreciate your video and thank you.
@@ourlifeinwashington4114 I hate spelling too
I build mine but have had no problem but I have CMMG lower parts kit
That is great to hear!
Looked at one but ended up with 2 Springfield saints put a red dot on one and a lobo on the other
I think you made the right choice.
Thank you I think so I put that new sig hvlp in 1x6 and that seems like a nice scope so far
Bought a week ago, not 1 issue!!!! Not even close
I am glad yours is working out so well.
"Mine works great"
"Never had a problem"
Translation, "I shoot 3 mags a year"
Lol, probably.
How long. Is the DB 15 warranted for.?
Well over 3k rounds through mine only 2 jams
Only thing I can say is the fitment of the upper and lower has a little play but that doesn’t effect the accuracy
That is great to hear. I am glad you have one that runs so well.
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I unfortunately owned a DB at one time... worst gun I ever purchased.
I am sorry to hear that.
bcm upper and bcm lower.
BCM makes good stuff.