How to coach paint a car at home with a 3” brush. Please share
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- Here I am painting the drivers door of my classic mini,I’m using coach enamel paint,just like the craftsmen did in the 1900s to 1970s it’s a dying art form, I decided to paint my car this way because I was quoted £4000-£8000 for re spray, and this way cost me only £350 yes that’s right £350 inc sundries!
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Bit late finding the video but very interesting. As an enthusiastic amatuer, I coach painted several cars about 40 odd years ago. Used ICI coaching enamel, no thinning. Warmed the paint tin up on a hot radiator, prepared as you did but didn't use a tipping brush. Worked in a very warm garage, careful but swift brushing gave a brilliant finish - brush marks melted away into a high gloss as I worked. Did a Mini, mk1 Escort and an E493A Prefect. Currently thinking about coach painting my Morris Minor.
Brilliant I like it.
Cheers Steve
Your work is truly excellent - so this is only a thought, not in any way a criticism, just a tip that might help others - I was taught in the RAF (many many years ago!!) to coach paint exactly as you're doing it (albeit with paints of the time such as Tekaloid and Mason's and no additives like PPA - we had to work fast!!! ) but with one difference - we were educated to wherever possible not put the tipping brush directly into wet paint; instead start at the wet edge, run it into and lift off in wet paint. It prevents potential "start marks" as they were called, where no matter how gently you put the tipping brush onto the wet surface, the paint couldn't flow out enough to eradicate where it had "started". Anyway enough of the old times! Excellent work.
Thank you great tip!
I’m not very good at explaining,that’s what I was doing in effect 🤷♂️
Thank you once again sir and help and advice is much appreciated 👍
First of all, this finish is spectacular. Whatever works, works. Stick with it and finesse it all you can. But Mr. Wingham, to your point, a great painter told me: "Always paint into the wet, an' you'll ne'er have a holiday." Meaning you'll always have work and your jobs will look great, because you'll never miss a spot.
You can sometimes avoid changing directions at all. In the same set-up as depicted, I would start by the handle, and paint towards it, from farther away to closer. Lifting the brush out of the wet part, as you describe, and starting near the edge of the unpainted side of the work.
I think its wonderful way of Painting a real Propper way for old classics. Thankyou for sharing Jim in Australia.
Thank you Jim, it’s much appreciated 👍all the best Steve
Brilliant, Thank You very much love this Tutorial 😊
The first time I ever seen a vehicle painted with a brush was in the 70's and the painter
used gasoline to thin the paint on a van and it was a very nice paint job. Thank you
for the video.
Thanks Ray👍
The finish looks amazing, it looks like it has been sprayed from the distance the camera was away from it, it certainly doesn’t look like it was brush painted, well done!!.
Thank you Katie, Anyone can do this, as long as you can hold a brush, it’s easy 👍🥂
I've seen countless spray jobs that were a tragedy. It can be done, but 9 out of 10 I always say "spray jobs are sh!t jobs!" Anywho, glad you got to hear my opinion. Take care🤠👋
Nice one mate, I'm gonna do my van, just one question, what paint did you use?
Top work Steve really enjoying watching your progress and looking forward to seeing the car as a whole 👍🏻
Thank you so much, I really appreciate the kind words Regards Steve
Ps I’m looking forward to see the finished car as well!.......
Great video and it's made me decide to do my Moggy this way. I was quoted £7.5k for a respray. It's a daily drive and not a show car. When I worked in an HGV garage 40 years ago I was amazed at the coachpainters skill, true craftsmen.
Thank you Bob, if you take your time and don’t cut corners a brilliant finish can be achieved by a novice, that was the very first time I had done it myself!
I don’t know where they get the price for Re sprays 🤷♂️
Cheers Steve
Unbelievable job 😍
Well this is great I`m definately going to try this on my van and probably save a fortune on the paintwork it requires. Thank you , very informative.
Thank you Richard glad you enjoyed it.
Hi Steve, I've just found this and am very impressed, I'm in Australia now but when I get back to Scotland I'm going to give this a crack . Great job great instrucions and Thank you very much.
Thank you Ian, glad your giving it a go and it’s enjoyable too.
I have a Facebook group called ( coach painting old cars ) lots of members doing their own cars offering loads of advice.
Regards Steve
Slow Cooker? Brilliant idea Steve! Great video as well. More power to you sir.
Billy. UK
Cheers Billy 👍
Looks brilliant thank you for sharing this.
My pleasure,thank you for watching.
Regards Steve
Hello from the colonies. You are a great teacher. Thank you
Thank you sir, greetings from Uk 👍
Regards Steve
I'm a narrow boat painter, I've done parts of my 1994 Talbot express motorhome in the same way, debating getting a bit more involved this summer 👍
Go for it John the finished results will be fabulous if you choose the right colour, my brother wants me to paint his Bedford CF when he’s finished welding it🤷♂️👍
Good old fashioned craftsmanship 👍love the finished article such a lovely shine good on you pal 👍
Thank you so much for your kind comment,it’s much appreciated 👍
Love it, repainting in my place is so expensive. I tried but failed I used urethane paint but the result is bad. I have to scraped it again.
I will follow your method . Hope it works
Good luck with your project, please keep us updated on the progress.
Regards Steve
I'm a coach painter. I started at 15 in 1973. I've been doing it for 47 years now. Sorry to say that you painted that door wrong. The panel should have been painted in one go. No joins and the brush strokes should have been Vertical to the floor. So window to the bottom of the door. The term laying off is used in the trade. Put more paint on than you need and take it off again. Fill the panel. The wipe the brush. Brush vertical through it. Wipe the brush after every stroke. Then sideways. Then finish top to bottom lightly as to minimise 'tram lines'. The lines from the brush.
Well Larry, in all fairness this was the very first time I had done this, with no help,or knowledge only from what I looked up!🤷♂️
But I appreciate your comments, Thank you
@@2194steve I admire you taking on the task it's not a small thing to do.
Please let us have a look of your profession in a video please... and maybe (pretty please) share us some tips and tricks on old-school paint technique's.
I'm foremost interested in how they painted antique bicycles back in the day's before the 40's...
Can you paint the doors on the cars? And if so, how does painting a vertical surface differ from horizontal surface?
@@tommak6516 No difference. With coach painting. You put more on than you need and then lay it off. So the brush removes and levels it.
Lovely job, lad, and I love the classic old English White! My Mg1100 was black originally but was treated badly, and I'm not a great body man, so I'll paint it primrose in an effort to minimize it's imperfections. I also live in the desert in California, and black would kill me. LOL
Thank you, I have a Facebook group if you’re interested called ( coach painting old cars) lots of help advice and information from fellow painters.👍
Got an old 4door moggy, thinking of repainting it at home and this was very informative thankyou.
You’re very welcome, good luck on the painting.
I use brush paint on my classic Brit Bikes. I find you get a more authentic Finnish although it’s shinny it’s not too shinny, it has an old style look about it. Many people comment is that the original Finnish? Perfect.
Some nice tips in your tutorial. Thank you
Thank you Stuart for watching my videos regards Steve
I love you sir ❤❤ I had a really good time watching your video, kind of like a heart to heart conversation with someone. You're very polite. Wish you good health.
Thank you Kevin, I’m glad you liked the videos as much as I loved doing it.
Regards Steve
If only an intelligent, British man with a depth of painting knowledge would make a video on how to paint a car with a brush. Oh, here it is! Thank you very much!
I have 2 spots of rust on my Corolla, each about as large as my outstretched hand. And I was thinking it's such a chore to use spray cans. I wonder if I could ... patch the rust spots and then paint them with a brush.
Hi Anthony,Thank you for your comment it’s much appreciated,as for the painting of the roof,yes it’s quite easy,just prime with 3 coats, 3 coats of undercoat, then flatten with 1200 W&D then topcoats rubbing between coats with 1200 then 1500 job done!
Also warm the topcoat in hot water,helps the paint flow better.
Cheers Steve
Wow... incredible work and you are a master teacher!! Love the videos 👍👍
Thank you Dan, I’m glad you liked the videos anyone can do it,just taking your time and don’t rush is the secret 👍
Great video. Gives me confidence to begin hand painting my chassis and parts on my 4wd. Was nervous bout having brush strokes
The trick to it is to take your time and enjoy the experience, do one panel at a time .
I'm about to roll and tip my 1970 boat and depending on how it goes I might give it a go on my 1988 truck the same color/paint as well, thanks for the vid!
Good luck with the boat, I think one you start, nothing will stop you painting as many cars and trucks you can get your hands on 😂😂 Main thing is to have fun doing it . 👍
@@2194steve Definitely! I was just thinking, if this boat comes out alright what's stopping me there! I'll use the same topside paint as well so it matches the boat (Rustoleum marine paint sounds good enough for a car right? lol). Nothing like doing it yourself and having fun doing it :)
@@richardbently7236 I’ve only used craftmaster paint, it’s very good stuff! But I’ve heard Rustoleum is brilliant to use and more forgiving ie it can be cut and polished at a later date👍 but what ever paint you use it’s in the preparation decent amount of coats I used 3 primer,3 undercoat, and probably 5 or more topcoats.🥃👍
@@2194steve Hello really enjoyed the video. can the craftmaster clear coat be used over rustoleum paint? Just asking because I think rustoleum is oil based. And how many days did you wait before applying the clear after the base paint? And one last question will craftsmaster deliver to California thanks so much
@@talle2029 as long as you make sure it has a good key,it should be ok for over painting rust oleum.
I put on 3 primer,3 undercoat, 4 top coats then 2 clear coat.
As for delivery to California I don’t know, I would email them if I were you.
Good luck regards Steve
Lovely some old school painting....quite impressive...very cheap, no need for a noisy compressor and no overspray....
Exactly Jean Paul, That was my main reason for painting it with a brush in the first place,it only cost me £350 to paint inside and out, I was quoted £4000-£8000 depending on the finish I wanted.
So I thought I could hand paint it myself, I read up on it how the old timers did it in the 1900s and went from there! And to be very honest with you, it’s very hard to tell it’s not sprayed.
Very nice work. I wasnt aware painting with a brush was really a thing. My cars paint is so bad and the panels are plastic. I was going to use a foam roller, but other than the hood, there isnt enough space to justify using one so I started using a brush today with matte black rustoleum 15% mineral spirits . So far, its looking ok, I figure its going to be a bit textured when done after 5-6 very very light coats(the panels flex so I think it will crack). If it seems durable, I will sand it smooth later and maybe add a satin clear coat, but honestly no matter what it will be an improvement from how it was looking lol.
Brilliant well done, I hope it looks great 👍
Got some paint brushes today for urethane paint because was gonna use it on painting truck I see Harbor Freight also has paint brushes for painting Arcylic Enamel too. I started painting front of my truck with a spray gun but after painted the hood used a roller a little bit but didn't like the result a paint brush will be to get all the paint on the vehicle without getting overspray in other spots if I like using this method I won't go back to using a spray gun. I just bought a foam hookup for a garden hose today. Want to get rid of the pressure washer got at home now used it some but really don't need it to wash a car all need is water pressure washer is just more pressure and it can get deep dirt stains off better. And for other things other than washing a car.
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Looking a nice job very good video too thankyou
Thank you Paul, I. Glad you liked the videos.
All the best regards Steve
Good video, thanks for sharing it with us , a mate once painted his car with a kit he bought from exchange and mart back in the day the car was white and he painted it red ,we all took the pis when he told us of his plan but when it was finnished it looked really good and we all had to eat our words .
I would like to see the finnished car if possible .best regards Frank 😊
Sorry Frank I sold the car last year .
Cheers Steve
@@2194steve Hi Steve, no problem, I bet the car sold well with the new paint 😀 👍 ps I saw the car in another video 😀
Regards Frank
Amazing finish for a brush job.
Thank you,Anyone can do it no special skills required only time.
great tip here, great job too!
Thank you Tony, it’s much appreciated 👍
Alright.
Painted my van using finest brush and alkyd oil based paint of Tikkurilla brand ,It is enamel type of paint as far as i am concerned as well as in your video.
Mixed it with about 20% white spirit , did not warm paint up and applied thick coat of it .
Turned out grate, i have tipped with my only brush i used for painting van.
Dark blue colour so some strokes are visible , but overall looking great with good reflection, better than from sponge roller.
I have tested with sponge roller on my test hood at home before hand and brush gave 2 times more.clarity in reflection, so thank you for promoting brushing and not rolling.
P.s. paint I used seems to better level when applied thick layer or pretty thick consistency
5.5 hours whole car.
Quastion.
Enamel oil based paint , alkyd paint not supposed to be clearcoated .
Car paint shop adviced so as well as other car painter and google.
Paint will crack or clear coat peel off within not very long time.
Is your car still alright in this regards ?
How long since clearcoated ?
Glad it worked out for you, clear coat was advised by manufacturers of my paint.
Don’t know how it is now, I’ve sold the car last year.
You are the only proper TH-camr who painted the entire car with paint brush that too with smooth finish. I also want to try painting my old motorcycle with brush. What type of paint do you recommend for metal tank and other plastic parts? for Base coat and clear coat that should be UV as well as solvent resistant.
As well as suggest how long to wait between coats.
Thank you Krishna The paint I used was from Craftmaster! As for plastic I don’t know if this can be used on plastic?. Craftmaster also do clear coat, I did one coat and re coated the next day, but it was cold, so if it’s warmer weather then maybe do another same day! 👍
@@2194steve Thank you so much for your reply. Really appreciate you....Is the based coat you used is oil based Enamel, and is the clear coat Polyurethane based with hardner mixed (2k clear)?
@@Krishna-ok5eo it’s all oil based by craftmaster paints
The clear coat I got from Symphony coatings in Birmingham it’s all brush on
No spraying but you could if you wanted to I suppose 🤷♂️
@@2194steve What you think. Is oil based clear coat resistant to gasoline/diesel spill?
@@Krishna-ok5eo it seems ok, as long as you wipe it off quickly, and don’t leave it!
Planning on doing this with enamel Land rover paint to my old campervan. Hoping for a flat glossy finish. I can't lay the panels down flat like you have there tho so it's a guessing game 😂
Hi Christopher, only reason I painted mine flat is because the restoration company took them off!
If you take your time, and make sure you keep a wet edge at all times till the end of a panel you should be ok, warm up the paint in a hot water saucepan this helps the paint flow better.
Do a panel when your happy with the finish, only then move to the next, otherwise you will create a lot of work for yourself removing and starting again!🤷♂️
Don’t cut corners on the preparation, I put on 3 coats primer,3 coats of undercoat 4 coats of topcoats and then 2 coats of clear coat all brush on!
Any help advice please ask👍 good luck and enjoy it . Regards Steve
@@2194steve thank you very much Steve and I must say great work it looks brilliant. My motorhome is fairly large so the preparation will take a very long time but I want her to look right and as original as I can possibly achieve. I'll take my time. Iv sprayed cars in the past but this will be my first enamel job and I'm looking forward to it after watching your videos.
Hi not a bad attempt as somebody has already said always paint top to bottom of panels the tipping brush should start off the panel at the top and go off the panel at the bottom in one stroke and also wipe and turn the brush with each stroke try watching John Bernhard how to paint a narrowboat he is one of the best painters around and brilliant at teaching how to do it
It’s a lot easier on a straight long panel,as demonstrated in John Bernards videos, I’d like to see him coach paint a car!
I take it your a professional coach painter Big ?
Thank you for your advice and comments
Excellent video ! Thank you very much for sharing.
My pleasure,thank you for watching 👍
Great job, keep up the good work mate 😉
Thank you , I’m hoping to paint a motor home next .
Cheers
Love how you clean the door with a tack cloth and then lean on it with your sleeve😂😂😂!
Now now Dereck settle down now! It’s only a quick demo to show the progress 🤷♂️.
And my shirt was clean on. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Fantastic work! Really impressed!!!
Thank you it’s much appreciated 👍
Well done.
Thank you
Very nice work. Do you cut and buff when you’re finished? Or is this quality sufficient. I can see how good it came out and I like it.
Thank you Larry No cut and buff just as it came out of the tin.
@@2194steve thank you for your timely response.
Very interesting, Im currently about to hand paint my Mk3 Cortina. I'll probably use craftmaster paints but what primer did you use? I have some etch primer and wondered if that would work with Craftmaster top coat.
Hi all the information and product details are in the videos!
Have you watched all the videos because if not you might struggle with the technique. It’s pretty easy once you know how.
you wet and dry that with 2000 grit then give it a polish with cutting compound you would be amazed at the finish ;)
I don’t think you would mate, this paint goes dull if you cut and polish it!
To get the shine like a mirror as you see in the video, it’s all about the technique.
@@2194steveI can confirm what you're saying sir with cut and polish. Though I didn't master your technique yet I experimented with your hand painting (satisfying results) instead of spraying this time and then when I tried the sanding and compounding because the internet said so, I screwed up what was a "good enough" job. So this time 3rd time I'm actually really studying your technique to do even better and have little to no brush marks this time. Because last time I just painted up and down. All of this was still better than spraying for me. Thx.
Wow,thats not a bad finish at all.I might have a play when the weather gets better.All the best.
Thank you glad you like it, it was fun doing it as well🥃👍
Nice! Your paint job was probably a 100 times better than the BMC's!
Thank you
Never seen this method, fantastic job. How many coats do you do. I take it the enamel is pretty tough
Hi it’s hard to remember to be honest, if you watch the videos all the information and techniques and most importantly the tips and shortcuts are easy to understand,anyone can do this.
All it takes is time and patience.
Yes the enamel is tough and if you damage a panel at a later date, it cost pennies to re due in paint, win win 🥇
Thanks for sharing.
I can’t afford a pro spray job , and have good painting skills, so reckon I can do this!
Can you please confirm has it lasted?
If polished regularly and maintained it should last at least 5-10 years depending on the preparation and quality of the paint used.
The good thing is if you get fed up of the colour after say 3 years,it doesn’t cost a fortune to do it another colour!
Great video Sir; what do you think about sanding after painting? Are we going to obtain a better reflection?
Thank you.
A very light sanding between coats only, and don’t buff this paint as it will do dull ( I’ve tried believe me!🤷♂️)
What you can do is apply a clear coat that’s compatible with your chosen paint, as mine was white spirit based.
Thank you 👍
@@2194steve Thank you Sir and Blessings from Venezuela.
This looks fantastic! You inspire me.
Would this technique work on the tubing of a Sand Rail or Dune Buggy?
Thanks
Can’t see why not Clary
So glad I found this video. I think I am going to try this on my HJ45 Land Cruiser. What primer did you use? Thank for the video
All the paint is from Craftmaster primer, undercoat and topcoat
@@2194steve Thank you!
This is amazing work! Would this technique work with Matt paint? I need to paint my Land Rover over the summer
Yes it would
learned this style from prepping boards for advertising signs........ years ago. very nice! seems better than a roller, right?
For me I found it better using a brush,more control I tried it with the roller but didn’t like it.
Some people swear by the roller.🤷♂️
@@2194steve THANK YOU! very well presented - and useful information. My conversation van TOP was quoted at $2000 and Im sure I can use your method.
What do you do with the inside of the door panel, or the inside of the car, did you paint that the same way, or use something more aggressive anti rust paint? For surfaces that won't be visible, under carpets etc, just curious.
Nice job by the way.
Hi I painted the whole car inside and outside the same as spraying but by BRUSH
Thank you
looks really good, and a minimum £3650 saving! Brilliant
Thank you Martin, anyone can do this no special skills really, just time and patience.🥃
Thanks Martin
Looks good
If that door would be on car , would paint run down ?
Isn't sponge brush better ?
Hi the only reason I painted the door off, was it was already off for welding work otherwise I would have left it on.
As for No as long as you don’t rush the job, you shouldn’t get runs.
I have never used a sponge brush so I can’t comment I’m afraid, I know the brush I used worked for me👍
Hope this helps
@@2194steve ty vm
Loved the vid what tipping brush did you use. Just off to hit the subscribe button 👍
Hi Alan it’s a Hamilton tipping brush,called a laying off brush on eBay.
Hope this helps. Regards Steve
A good result..well done.
Thank you John, it’s much appreciated glad you like it👍🥃
HI Steve,
Thank you for your informative videos, they are clear and easy to follow.
I am looking at doing this to my Mini as soon as possible and am ordering the materials over the weekend. I’m looking to paint the car red including roof. Apologies in advance for the lengthy comment and if you have already answered some of my queries in previous videos and comments. I’d really appreciate if you could check through the below and confirm all looks OK, before I buy materials and commit to the job.
ALL MATERIALS I THINK I NEED:
Craftmaster’s Enamel Primer, Craftmaster’s High Build Undercoat, Craftmaster's Enamel Paint (Colour Coat), HMG's Coma Berenice Clear, Craftmasters PPA thinners, 3’’ Purdy Brush, Tipping Brush, 3’’ Harris Brush , Purdy Rollers, general brush for primer and undercoat, something to heat the colour paint with, tac cloths, general rags, 800 grit wet and dry, 1200 grit wet and dry, 1500 grit wet and dry, white spirit
PROCESS ORDER:
- Rub down car
- Craftmaster’s Enamel Primer (no thinners) x3 coats
- Craftmaster’s High Build Undercoat (no thinners) x3 coats
- Wet sand all painted areas with 1200
- Craftmaster Enamel Paint with 10% thinners x6 coats (wet sanding between coats with 1200 & 2000)
- HMG Coma Berenice Clear x3 coats (wet sanding in-between coats with 1200 & 2000)
A FEW QUESTIONS:
1. Craftmaster do a Clear Varnish. Is there any reason why you chose to use HMG’s Coma Berenice over the Craftmaster’s Clear Varnish product?
2. How long do I need to wait between coats for the Primer/Undercoat/Colour Coat/Clear Coat to dry?
3. How many litres of Primer/Undercoat/Colour Coat/Clear Coat will I need to paint a Mini in one colour for each stage taking the amount of coats into consideration?
4. For the top coat (colour coat), do you measure out your paint/thinners with measuring jugs for consistency or do you just free pour the thinners into the paint and guess the 90% / 10% ratio?
5. How long should I wait for the colour coat to dry before adding a clear coat?
6 . How long did the process take you for the whole car?
Thanks again!
Hi Miles you seem to have all the bases covered, I wouldn’t use rollers again I prefer a brush,but that’s me!
As for paint required for my mini
3 litres primer
3 litres undercoat
3 litres top coat
Why don’t you join our Facebook page
Coach painting old cars
And upload your photos as you go along that way I can and others can steer you in the right direction if you go wrong.
Good luck with your project, all the best Steve
Ps I forgot the reason I used symphony coatings varnish is it was highly recommend by a coach painter who said it had 15 years uv protection.
That’s cool… 👏
you’re using automotive paint? Can any exterior enamel or acrylic paint be used?
That’s a very interesting point Paul, I think any exterior enamel paint could be used,although I’ve not tried it personally!
As for acrylic paint in theory it could as long as it’s sealed afterwards 🤷♂️
The paint I used was called craftmaster and made for purpose of painting cars by brush.
Hope this helps.
Regards Steve
Ive seen some videos using a hardener as well, w enamel (and thinner). Curious. Painting a different color might pop abit more, fyi. Well done.
Sorry I don’t know about hardener to add to the paint.
Hi Steve. Fantastic video .I have an old skoda .which has really tatty paint on it .could I do this without taking the panels off the car .
Yes of course Tom, the only reason my panels were off because it needed welding otherwise I would have painted them in situation. Thank you for watching and good luck painting and most of all enjoy it.
Regards Steve ps keep me updated 👍
MashALLAH.u r genius.is this enamel paint because typical car paint cant be used with brush,
Yes enamel paint, as normal car paint dries to fast.
Thank you Regards Steve
It was like watching paint dry.
Brilliant, Thank you
My father painted his 46 Chevy with a brush outside in the woods. It looked better then before. He had to paint it because my brother and I washed his car with Lestoil and his maroon car turned pink.
In the 1960s
😂😂😂😂love it Francis, bet you dad was happy.
Im giving this a try thanks 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
Good luck James, if I can help in anyway,advice and so on please contact me by all means.👍
I also have a Facebook group called ( coach painting old cars) lots of advice and techniques by other people doing their own cars.
Love manual work make wanna paint my car that way
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A £4000 quote is ludicrous, but there are affordable alternatives to hand painting. I've painted a Fiat 128 using an electric spraygun that cost peanuts. The trick is to thin the paint progressively with each coat so as to reduce the size of the paint particles left on the surface, effectively filling the gaps left by the sputter caused by such crude equipment. Rubbing back well with buffing compound leaves a professional finish. I sold that car to a collector for AU$3000 in 2004 when you could buy them for AU$500
If sprayed countless cars over 40 years, but where I live now there’s no option of spraying so I had to come up with a alternative solution,and coach painting is it!
Anyone anywhere regardless of money can achieve fabulous results, and very cheap.
Also a advantage of this method is if you say scrap a wing, it cost less than £20 to repair,rather than £500 plus a garage would charge.
Thank you for your comments it’s much appreciated.
Good effort I feel more confident I’d doing my old Renault master ex ambulance now a camper it’s been hand painted and I’m going to rub it all flat and use roller as you suggested,what size roller is best?let me know bro👍
And does vertical painting of van make a difference like runs?
Hi Allan, I used a 3” brush in the end, more control for me anyway🤷♂️ I got a better finish with it!
As for vertical panels,just take your time and don’t put to much paint on in one go, you can add more coats as you go.👍
@@2194steve thanks will try it this weekend Iv got few tins 2k I acquired or scavenged 🤣and activator I take it I can do the same with this paint?
@@ambread1 I don’t think you can Allan,it will dry to fast!
Look pretty good man
So how many cout you put on that and how long wait between cout???
Hi Blue I put on
3 coats of primer
3 coats of undercoat
6 coats of topcoat
2 coats of clear coat
All brush on, only thin coats
When I painted it which was in October/ November last year it was cold, so I waited till the next day before re coating, but if it was very warm I would say 6 hours between coats.
Thank you Regards Steve
@@2194steve ok thanks...
i believe you can polish or wet sand paper gently and reapply paint again to get a smooth finish. but you need to wait 3 days every time for the enamel to dry. being quoted 4000 gbp is absolute insanity. yea, id rather have some streaks (:
Wet sanding some paint,but not craftmaster unfortunately but mine came out as good as a re spray to honest. Yes £4000-£8000 is insanely and I did it for £350 .
@@2194steve have you used FOAM brushes? i heard they are the only way to not have streaks. i have some side mirrors i need to renew the paint without removing and i just dont wanna do rattle can, its a delicate area.
@@vampire_kiril sorry I haven’t used foam brushes?
I used synthetic brushes
Nice job, what is the mixing ratio of thinner to paint
Thank you Charles ,I found personally about 10-15% worked well for me.
Regards Steve
Great video and work
Thank you very much,glad you liked it!🥂👍
WOW amazing
You can get amazing results if you take your time and persevere,anyone can do it.
Hi..what brushes did you use? I have pearl paint..can I thin with thinners?
I used Purdy brush to put the paint on and a Hamilton lay off brush
I’ve not done pearl paint, but I would thin it down and try it on a panel to see if it works.
Great job Steve. Do you have to rub it back with wet and dry afterwards? Ta
Hi Keith, no rubbing back on the final coat, just straight out of the tin, heat the paint in a saucepan of water to help paint flow.
@@2194steve thanks for your advice Steve. 👍
May I ask why you are not rolling and tipping: I have been considering doing that technique, What are your views about it, please?
Hi I tried the roller method,but I found more control and a better finish using a 3” brush.
It’s just my own personal preference. Thank you 👍
@@2194steve I'd like to just tag on here and say I was a sign painter for six years, and we did even large solid sign backgrounds with a brush, instead of a roller, because the paint flowed out much more smoothly. I'm really excited to do my MG 1100, now that I know it can look this good!
@@kellybrickey4300 keep us posted Kelly 👍 ps I have a Facebook group if your interested called (coach painting old cars)
Lots of help advice and information.
Regards Steve
Great video, could I use this for stone chips and small area’s or would it look different from the standard paint???
Can’t see why not, as long as you get the correct colour 🤷♂️👍
Hi there, do i do the same with the undercoat, ie heating it up etc etc, regards mick.
No need to mick, but you could if you wanted to so to get used to the process of applying the paint.
Hi, I am restoring my 1961 rover p4, I'm currently doing a lot of welding and filling etc so am down to bare metal, I will be using a high build filler/primer to get a good finish before painting, torn between roller or brush, just a bit worried that if I use a roller I will get small air bubbles. Did you find any brush marks after drying and if so did you sand them?
Also how many top coats did you do?
Many thanks.
Hi I found the brush better to use, for myself anyway! Overall you can’t see any brush marks, so much so even professional sprayers think it’s been sprayed!
I did 6 thin topcoats, then 2 coats of clear coat all brush on.
I use sponge to paint, and it's got very good result. Just make liquid paint and use gloves.
Sounds interesting, have you any photos?👍
Spot on job....what paint are you using please?
I used craftmaster paint
Does it level completely or are there some brush strokes?
It depends on your ability to paint to be honest
Great video, thanks for sharing
Thanks Mark my pleasure 👍
How many high build undercoat layers and how many to top coat layers are recommended..
Cheers Peter
Hi Pete, I did 3 primer,3 undercoat and 6 topcoats all very thin coats,then I used a brush on lacquer .
How many coats would you give it when starting from a primer?
Hi Harry, all the information is in depth in the videos, from start to finish.
Hope you enjoy watching them.👍
I tried to paint with a brush and a roller but didn't work for me. I used the Prevail reusable spray paint system too and it was bad for me. I use more reducer now when I paint now but the paint jobs still not coming out good enough.
Sorry to it’s not working for you, try practicing the method on a old door or wing before doing the car, you might find it easier. I didn’t like the roller way, yet some on TH-cam do get fantastic results, I prefer to use a brush more control for me anyway! Hope this has helped in some ways. Regards Steve
I'm going to start painting my father's 1930 Model A Coupe he left me after he passed away. Does the paint on the main and tipping brush start to dry quickly and then make it so it can't be used anymore after just a small area like the door you worked on? Should I look at buying multiple brushes if I plan on painting the whole car, or is there a way to keep them supple and be continuously used throughout the whole process? Thanks.
Hi John 1 brush is enough as long as you clean it after use ready for the next panel.
Buy a good one though,like Harris or Hamilton Don’t go for budget ones they will ruin the paint job for sure!
Keep me posted with photos as you go.
Happy painting.
Enamel paint drys very slowly,and wash the brushes out in Turpentine or white sprit
The give a good wash out in warm soapy water and dry for the next days painting.
@@2194steve Thank you for replying so quickly. I'm in the U.S., but will look for those brand of brushes (it looks like Amazon carries them). Is a laying off brush is the same as a tipping brush? Also, I'm seeing multiple types of brushes from those brands. What's the best type of brush to use for the car?
@@greenmanjph yes the laying off brush is the same as a tipping brush
Synthetic 3inch Harris is what I used.
Hope this helps.
Regards Steve
@@2194steve One more question, and I apologize if it was said in the video. What type of paint are using, is it single stage car paint? It looks like you thinned it, what did you thin it with, and how much? Thanks.
Great vlog and so effective 🎉👌
Thank you so much John 👍👍
Amazing
Thank you David, you’re kind comment is very appreciated it wasn’t a quick and easy job but very enjoyable and I would love to do another sometime. Regards Steve
@@2194steve i will try it in my car🙌🏻
Would you cut or polish that afterwards, and can it be painted vertically? Essentially if I had an assembled car could I paints it fully assembled and not get runs?
The paint I used craftmaster cannot be cut and polished as it will burn!
Yes it can be painted fully assembled, I only did mine the way in the videos because the car needed welding,so the welder took doors off for access otherwise it would have been complete .
Just take your time and watch the videos I give tips on how to avoid runs and what to do if you do get runs.
Hope this helps regards Steve
@@2194steve tha is Steve I will definitely watch a few more the end result turned out great!
Can you add metal flake wih clear coat?
That’s a very good question Eric, the answer is I don’t know but just think of the possibility if it works (mind blowing)
Do u need tipping brush when your applying the lacquer
Strictly speaking no, as long as the brush you are using is a very soft bristle brush.
i was painting on a racing stripe with a brush, but the edges were not straight. So I just painted it again, a little wider. The edges were still not straight, so did it again, and again, and again, etc. By the time I was done the entire car was the color of the racing stripe.
Ha Ha brilliant Tom, I like it 😂😂
How does enamel paint compare with 2k for hardness and durability ?
Different animals completely
Enamel paint is slow drying, easy to do an very cheap especially to do repairs at a later date.
2 pack you need special equipment ie compressor and respiratory system
Paint expensive, and costly to do repairs at a later date.
There is a bit more to it, but that’s it basically.
I hope this helps you regards Steve
Thanks Steve, I was referring to the hardness of the enamel paint rather than the application my 1932 MG may have had this or cellulose paint when new., I would like to recreate this look again. MG did spray their cars in the 30’s however I would like to attempt a brush finish. Would you normally sand between both top coats.. Great site by the way and thanks for the impartial advice.
@@robertclarke5593 Hi Robert you would have to re paint after about 5 years as the paint will fade quite a bit.
But then again after 5 years if you’re like me you wouldn’t mind re painting the car anyway to make it new again!
Glad you liked the videos
Ps I did coat mine with brush on lacquer
Hi Steve can u use a brush too put on clear coat on top of coach paint
Yes that’s what I have done in the videos, all brush painted
NO SPRAYING
Sorry Mick, I forgot to say the clear coat is a special one for the coach paint, not the one car sprayers use.
Made by symphony coatings ltd Thank you Regards Steve
Hi Steve just finished a engine rebuild on a lambretta ser2 coach painted my li ser3 last summer which turned out brill is the weather too cold too paint at the moment with coach paint thanks
can i do that with my 1948 harley davison frame
That’s a good question,I’m not sure to honest.
I suppose it depends on if it’s going to get rubbed it will scrape off, as it’s not hard like cellulose
Thanks for the question Scotty, let us know how you go on if you try it.
Regards Steve
I’m having a problem with brush marks, I’m painting a valve cover and other engine parts. Is my paint not thin enough?
What paint are you using?
@@2194steve oil paint.
@@asslowshop396 yes but what make of paint?
@@2194steve Rust-oleum Farm and implement
Going to do it your way this week.
Dark blue van .
Scared to death
Outside , under sun
Don’t do it in direct sunlight it will dry to fast! Good luck and keep us updated on progress 👍
@@2194steve Thank you very much for the warning.
Will do it later in the evening then.
18 years old dark true blue van.
Will sand down with dual action polisher 1200 grid sandpaper wet before painting.
Will paint in same colour without removing old paint.
Some filling here and there beforehand.
1 step paint with built in clearcoat to get away with just 2 coats =paint twice.
@@2194steve i have done one coat on the hood using alkaloid paint deluted with 10% white meniral spirit and heated in nearly boiling water , sometimes it even boiled a little as it was difficult to control the heat.
That's all i could get locally and what professional paint shop suggested for this project as i do not live in uk.
Dark blue paint turned light blue on the hood and while brushing paint on it was very sticky but manageable to cover whole hood, but i could not get thin layer.
In terms if orange peel , there is nothing crazy but still worst that factory paint and therefore has to be sanded and polished any way
I am going to just use rust olleum paint instead and sponge roller I Think.
Hi could you tell me did you flat and polish this after painting
Hi David, no cutting or polishing at all just straight on with the brush 👍
@@2194steve wowthats an amazing finish with a brush ten out of ten for this
@@davidhumby Thank you, it’s really not as hard as it looks it’s taking your time and getting one panel right before moving on to the next.
I had to paint one panel and rub it back 3 times when I started, and that was the first one, I nearly changed my mind to be honest but I carried on and so glad I did.
This is why I posted the videos in the first place to show people and one can do this and achieve good results,I hope this has helped you in some way.
All the best Steve👍
@@2194steve Thank you it has i will be getting a project car in the summer and i will give this a go. many thanks