Great take, Ben. These same people who are complaining are the same ones who were laughing at the Dodgers early exit the previous several seasons. Turnabout is fair play. 👍
Whats funny , Before Snell signed with the Giants last year. He was looking for a longterm deal and no one wanted to offer him the contract. Even the 182 mill right now. Teams didn’t wanna give it to him but all of a sudden Dodgers said ok we’ll give u a long term contract. Everyone is up and arms about it. There were plenty of times other Teams could have signed him but they didn’t...Also, Deffered contract is not exclusive to Dodgers. All MLB teams can do the same,. Actaully deffered contracts has been happening for more than 30 yrs. that's why there was a Bobby Bonilla contract.
You can’t tell this to fans of other teams they’re not ready for the truth unfortunately. They like to just play victim of dodgers dominance on the field and in the front office.
Yeah and you notice how nobody had a problem with the mets and Yankees spending cap until the Dodgers started spending. I wonder how many of those people are mets and Yankees fans. Lol
He’s right about the Dodgers making it a great place to come play if you’re a professional baseball player. The culture is fun and about winning, the analytics, player development, the players already on the team, and how they go about the fan experience. They put out a great product.
I mean I would love to see it happen. But if Dodgers knock out 3-4 World Series titles in a row, then I could see an argument for being mad at what the Dodgers did to get there haha. But yeah Dodgers could assemble a super team every year, but you still gotta play 162 games and win 11 games in the playoffs to get crowned. And that's extremely tough.
Ben on fire with this take, calling out all the hypocritical fans. Owners should stop being cheap and invest in their team and try to win Edit: I dont want Soto on the Dodgers. I'd rather have Teo back and he should go back to the Yankees (can't believe I'm saying that)
Arte had both Trout and Ohtani at the same time for 6 years. That's right, it wasn't a dream it really happened. Some people mistakenly call the angels a small market team, maybe in terms of popularity but Arte has Dodgers money, and he refused to do anything to make his starting rotation better. Dodgers had similar starting rotation problems but did not waste any time at all while they had Shohei to fix it and they are still trying to improve. I agree with with Ben, get mad at your team for not willing to spend.
You nailed it!! Not all owners are in win mode!! Those owners are about the money!! I hope all fans stop to think about what you are saying!! DODGER FAN FOREVER!!!!!
Yes that putz that bought the A's is a perfect example. If he had made the A's a winner, they would not be playing in Sacramento this year. And chances are he won't bring in any great numbers in Vegas unless he puts a competitive team in the field... Its not rocket science... 🚀🚀🚀
Just found the show. I have only listened to Dodgers shows up to now. I love your line we don’t have a problem until we have a problem. Looking forward to future episodes.
Spot on. The only way to fix thus is to have a system that football(soccer) has in rest of the world: promotion/relegatiom. Bottom few teams in the standing get relegated to AAA and top few teams from AAA get promoted to the majors. NOBODY will be complacent to sit around in that system.
Thanks for the SANE and LOGICAL discussion on a team lime the Dodgers actually trying to win instead of languishing in mediocrity to turn a bigger profit
I followed baseball before the Curt Flood Case. That led to Free Agency. Before then Teams controlled players even after their 1-year contracts expired. A lot of these debates were also around during the Big Red Machine. 3 MVPs in a line up at one time. Every team had the opportunity. Some do it, some play money ball.
I also followed baseball before free agency and spoke to a MLB player who played before free agency. He said that Johnny Bench earned $60,000 per year and he was paid $18,000 as a catcher for the San Diego Padres. I know that player usually worked part time jobs after the season. I agree with free agency and it is difficult to become a free agent in MLB and just ask any MLB player than never became a free agent.
@@johnwakamatsu3391 As a pre-teen, watched Pete Rose's ROY and within the last decade or so talked with him for about a half-hour. For his 2nd job, Pete was in the Military Reserves, thus the hair cut. He too talked about those days and how once you signed on that line, they owned your career. If not for Curt Flood filling a case, even though he lost in SCOTUS, it brought everything to a head and my opinion. Owners still run those first years in MiLB contracts like those old days. Understandable. They put money into player development and deserve some guarantees for their investment risk. However, once that time is put in, so happy they can get paid their worth today. A cap would only pull us back to the old days. The owners make so much money today from playoffs, while unless in the contract, the player ends up playing for free after only a percent of the take in the minimum number of games in the series. Even before then do no get a percent of all return from the playoffs. Then expected to give bonuses to a lot of staff, etc. Instead of going backwards, it is time to move more forward. The Owners need to give players more for playoffs than champagne in the clubhouse and a ring for the winners. To win is not easy. The Owners may field the team, but I have yet to see one of them drive in a run or participate in making an opponent out.
As a life long Dodger and Angel fan. The difference between the large and small market teams is obvious. the Dodgers look at it like the product on the field is how you make the money. the fans will come if you win. the money will be there if you win.
The psychological term often associated with people who always dislike the winners is "counterdominance bias" or "anti-dominance bias." This refers to a tendency to resist or reject individuals or groups perceived as dominant or successful.
What do you think Players consider most when offers are within a small percentage of range of difference? Player Development? Location? Team Mgmt? Teammates?
Excellent analysis of what the true situation is. Cubs, Pirates, Orioles make a ton of money but don’t put a good product on the field and no one bats an eyelash. Cheap owners are the problem.
I don't understand the issue with deferred money if the AAV / CBT hit is still fair? Ohtani has most of his contract deferred but it's still $46M against the CBT threshold and $46M the Dodgers have to pay into escrow every year - which is the highest salary of any player in the league. How is it unfair that the Dodgers are paying more for Ohtani than any player in the MLB?
I like your idea of a salary floor. I've always wondered if the salary cap might make rich owners pay less to players, which would be bad for everyone else. By setting an appropriate salary floor, this problem might be solved as well.
In Japan, in a certain field, a person who is so strong that it is difficult to beat them no matter how much time, money, hard training, state-of-the-art equipment, machines, data analysis, etc., is spent, and who continues to be active for a long time, is called a "musou（kanji 無双）." Examples of such Japanese men include current baseball player Shohei Otani, gymnast Kohei Uchimura at the peak of his career, and swimmer Kosuke Hagino. Skating star Yuzuru Hanyu was so strong that he was nicknamed the "Japanese Emperor" of the skating world.
I was personally aiming at Blake since MLB revealed 24-25 FA list. He was on top same as Corbin with 7.2 WAR amongst starting pitchers(Shohei's highschool superior Yusei was the 3rd with 6.0). So I'm so happy with his joining LAD. But TTTT the team's pitching competence is still insufficient. Yossy, Glasnow, Blake, Shohei, Jack...we need 1 more potent starter to firm six-men.
The context about this is appreciated. Objectively speaking, I think a lot of people are upset because the Dodgers fanbase is known to be insufferable. Not my take. Just from what I've seen online. Here's my issue. MLB likes to prop up the same markets globally. There are superstars on most other teams. If the NBA can make Oklahoma City and Denver merchandise cool in the mainstream, MLB can do the same with its teams not from LA or NY. Even if my team, the Toronto Blue Jays, spent a billion dollars, the media will still contextually get everything wrong about my team and city. Not to mention the xenophobic jokes. National media writers last year deemed Toronto "bad for baseball" if Ohtani signed there.
I want to put this out there. I think the Dodgers should fill Right Field...NOT with Soto, but rather...Mike Trout. Dodgers can give quiet a few assets like Landon Knack, Michael Grove and 3 first round picks (***can't trade picks apparently... therefore add 2-3 more pro ready prospects). That is extremely fair, and the way Trout has not played most of the past 5 seasons...I think they'd strongly consider it
@@ponyexpress2724 Okay... good to know. Then trade LA Angels 4 Pro-ready players. The two I named plus two more. It would be hard for Arte to say no to that, considering the return.
Flippin Bats guy...please read. I don't how u came up on my feed , but u are the best! I don't know who u are or what team you support? But u are natural. If u are not on the radio you should be. Happy Thanksgiving buddy!
That is my point. A lot of teams do defer, not just the Dodgers. Every team can, they just don't. They make a lot of money from winning playoffs. Break out that Uncle Scrooge Coin Purse.
Angels will always be the biggest fool’s in baseball history. They had a chance to get 10 top 100 prospects and instead let Ohtani walk and trout lose his trade value
Will be interesting to see where LA goes from here. Does this mean that they are out on Sasaki and Burnes? With the Dodgers, you can never be sure. Happy Thanksgiving.🦃
I'd say that it may point to them being out on Walker Buehler... POSSIBLY out on Teoscar Hernandez... I don't believe they were ever in on Corbin Burnes... BUT, Roki Sasaki's price tag is low, so they're definitely still in on him. Happy🦃Thanksgiving!
omg - please don't be out on Sasaki!! Can you imagine that starting lineup? Ohtani, Yamamoto, Sasaki, Snell, Kershaw, Glasnow, Stone? 'Coach, I wanna throw today - Coach: maybe tomorrow.' 🤯🥳
Putting a good product on the field generates more fans, which will generate more views, demand on TV, resulting in better TV deals. Cheap owners don’t want to do the work or take the chance.
another thing, ppl are "yelling to yell, to be mad" bec it garners views. Its hard to get views if you're like "Yeah, I guess Im okay with that, I dont care either way." Whos going to click on that video?
I don’t care if they go over the luxury tax. It’s the differ part for me which I get upset about and you’re right it’s the owners. I agree with you. So I’m upset at both the owners and differ. I wish more teams spent money like the rangers go get a few of the top end pitchers like the dodgers but that’s not the case. You’re right been but I hate it love the show
If they can't re-sign Teo ! They will trade for Robert Jr and most likely crochet!! I believe they got a verbal agreement with willy adames they land sasaki for a rookie contract 😂😂😂 good luck to the rest of MLB teams trying to win a world series
holy dynesty in the making, big ben. this past year the l.a. dodgers won their first true world series title since '88 without a starting rotation. now they'll start '25 with an embarassment of riches in that department, ohtani may not need to pitch? but, as we saw in '24 nothing's a guarentee when the white lines are drawn, 162 a helluva long season -go halos
All deferring this money does is allow the players to be able to collect the paycheck in a state with no income tax. So in reality they’re saving money, unless they’re cool paying a 14% state income tax. Ohtani is saving $100 million not having to pay California income tax by deferring
they just want to play with Ohtani. When you are unwilling to spend money to sign Shohei Ohtani, you are already doomed to fail. Shohei Ohtani can share most of the pressure of other stars, which is the most important thing
Garrett Crochet will go to the Dodger..they been eyeing him and they want him..Dodger is gonna go with 6 man rotation and they need depth to maintain a 6 man rotation..they learn 2024 and won't let that happen again with starting pitching..it their # 1 weakness and it need to be fix with 6 man rotation so they won't lose alot of pitcher and keep them healthy for post season.
All the teams could have signed Snell to a long term contract last year. No one wanted him. How much of this is like seeing your ex who you dumped suddenly on tv dating a movie star?
Rich people are often cheap people. They got rich by not spending everything they have all the time. That habit results in some owners not putting out a competitive product. The team makes money though, which is what really matters to them.
Dodger fans don't want SOTO and if it wasn't for Scott Boras' ego he would never leave the Yankees...its the perfect fit for a good hitting, meh fielding Soto... Give us Teoscar Hernandez and we want him back NOW!
I don’t think anyone is mad at the Dodgers people are pissed off that this is allowed by MLB. Also the Yankees were hated for this exact reason so your takes are way off on this topic. I normally agree with you but not on this
The Yankees did this since the beginning and are still doing this, The Mets are about to spend big bucks The dodgers are more creative than other franchises. Afraid I don’t see your point.
You can say whatever you want it is unfair to the small market teams that you can spend whatever you want unless a small market team doesn’t mind losing money what they really need to do is get rid of all the TV contracts and have it be MLB TV that you pay for and they’ll be revenue sharing equal with every team and get rid of the deferred contracts
I am so sick of the deferred battle cry. Many teams defer money. Ken Griffen Jr just got paid this year because of deferment. Same people whining about deferment are the same people who will say, you can't buy wins if LA doesn't win. It's a joke
No buddy, the Dodgers aren’t paying the same luxury tax the Mets are. They’re avoiding paying part of this by deferment. Not just that but the best player in the league has deferred all of his contract, so other teams can’t catch up.
The Dodgers are not avoiding a luxury tax. The deferred payments still count against the luxury tax. Ohtani's hit is $46m a year, the present-day AAV of the contract. Snell's will be $34m a year. Betts, Freeman, etc - all of their present-day AAVs count against the luxury tax. Then the Dodgers are also required by the CBA to set aside the present-day AAV of every contract in escrow. They can't just kick the can down the road and hope for the best, they need to have that money. Every year. So yes, the Dodgers are paying the luxury tax just as all the other teams above the threshold.
@what? That’s the very definition of avoiding part of the tax penalty. They’re avoiding the other percent of that salary. If Ohtani hadn’t deferred they’d be on the hook for 70 mil. It’s quite literally the main reason to do this, to be able to pay people a copious amount of money but not facing the penalty of having to pay the luxury tax for the full amount.
@eddyrdz7543 They are literally not avoiding anything. They are paxing the tax according to the rules set. Deferred contracts are taxed at NPV instead of total value because deferred money inherently has less value. $68m in 2034 will be worth a LOT less than $68m paid out this year, that's just how money and economics work. If Ohtani hadn't deferred it would have just been a standard $460-500/10 contract, which is... what the tax hit is already. The extra $200m-ish is just to make up for the devaluation of the money he'll receive. Deferring helps with payroll/cashflow. But it does not circumvent the luxury tax the way people are hung up on. The team still takes a hit at the contract's NPV, for every player.
Will the Los Angeles Dodgers repeat as World Series Champs?
Blake Snell is going to be a gem for the dodgers
I hope so 👍
The Dodgers are the favorites to repeat, maybe even more so with Snell and whatever other acquisitions they make.
I would not bet against it. But we are still fairly early on in the free agent sweepstakes/off-season trading period.
halo nation remains defiant
Great take, Ben. These same people who are complaining are the same ones who were laughing at the Dodgers early exit the previous several seasons. Turnabout is fair play. 👍
Whats funny , Before Snell signed with the Giants last year. He was looking for a longterm deal and no one wanted to offer him the contract. Even the 182 mill right now. Teams didn’t wanna give it to him but all of a sudden Dodgers said ok we’ll give u a long term contract. Everyone is up and arms about it. There were plenty of times other Teams could have signed him but they didn’t...Also, Deffered contract is not exclusive to Dodgers. All MLB teams can do the same,. Actaully deffered contracts has been happening for more than 30 yrs. that's why there was a Bobby Bonilla contract.
You can’t tell this to fans of other teams they’re not ready for the truth unfortunately. They like to just play victim of dodgers dominance on the field and in the front office.
Yup, truth! Hater be hating!
Yeah and you notice how nobody had a problem with the mets and Yankees spending cap until the Dodgers started spending. I wonder how many of those people are mets and Yankees fans. Lol
I actually saw a video with a Yankees podcaster calling for a salary cap. Oh the irony😂
Blake Snell going to LA means that he has now pitched for all three NL West California teams. The Padres, Giants, and Dodgers.
He’s right about the Dodgers making it a great place to come play if you’re a professional baseball player. The culture is fun and about winning, the analytics, player development, the players already on the team, and how they go about the fan experience. They put out a great product.
This is a unique awesome great time to be a Dodger fan. Dodgers are building a dynasty. I see 3 titles in the next 4 years.
You hit the nail on the head Ben.
Love this. Ben is right and people will complain.
Dodgers are not messing around! This sends a clear message to everyone else. Avengers assembling! Roki up next
Imagine.. they already have 4 number ones
I mean I would love to see it happen. But if Dodgers knock out 3-4 World Series titles in a row, then I could see an argument for being mad at what the Dodgers did to get there haha. But yeah Dodgers could assemble a super team every year, but you still gotta play 162 games and win 11 games in the playoffs to get crowned. And that's extremely tough.
👏👏👏👏👏👏 thank you for speaking the truth! All the dodger haters gonna continue to hate. Especially when they sign Sasaki 💙😂
Well said Ben. There are too many cheap owners in MLB.
"You're mad at the cheap franchise that you're rooting for." 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
😅😅😅😅
Facts
Ben on fire with this take, calling out all the hypocritical fans. Owners should stop being cheap and invest in their team and try to win
Edit: I dont want Soto on the Dodgers. I'd rather have Teo back and he should go back to the Yankees (can't believe I'm saying that)
Arte had both Trout and Ohtani at the same time for 6 years. That's right, it wasn't a dream it really happened. Some people mistakenly call the angels a small market team, maybe in terms of popularity but Arte has Dodgers money, and he refused to do anything to make his starting rotation better. Dodgers had similar starting rotation problems but did not waste any time at all while they had Shohei to fix it and they are still trying to improve. I agree with with Ben, get mad at your team for not willing to spend.
You nailed it!! Not all owners are in win mode!! Those owners are about the money!! I hope all fans stop to think about what you are saying!! DODGER FAN FOREVER!!!!!
Yes that putz that bought the A's is a perfect example. If he had made the A's a winner, they would not be playing in Sacramento this year. And chances are he won't bring in any great numbers in Vegas unless he puts a competitive team in the field... Its not rocket science... 🚀🚀🚀
Amen Ben. Great on point perspective! Congrats Sir. GO DODGERS !!!
Actually you're not in the minority. Most real experts and smart baseball minds feel the way you do, 💯
Just found the show. I have only listened to Dodgers shows up to now. I love your line we don’t have a problem until we have a problem. Looking forward to future episodes.
LETS GO DODGERS 🙌🏻🙌🏻🔥
29 other MLB teams: Why did you sign the pitcher that we never wanted to sign to a long-term deal? That is so unfair! BOOHOO!!
Dodgers are assembling Voltron. ❤😂
nobody's twisting Snell's arm to defer his money. Nor Shohei, Betts, Freddie, Will Smith, etc. They WANT to play in LA, is it so hard to understand?
Your are good at talking baseball
Great Angel's take with KC example, on fire Ben!❤
Spot on. The only way to fix thus is to have a system that football(soccer) has in rest of the world: promotion/relegatiom. Bottom few teams in the standing get relegated to AAA and top few teams from AAA get promoted to the majors. NOBODY will be complacent to sit around in that system.
Thanks for the SANE and LOGICAL discussion on a team lime the Dodgers actually trying to win instead of languishing in mediocrity to turn a bigger profit
❤right on Ben!
That’s one heckuva take, Ben.
The Dodgers are building a DYNASTY 😂🎉
Multiple World Series 😅❤
Any objections?😢
Nope!
Ben, is this Amen…? I’m from Japan and it’s my first time the word came out from me.
ベンさん❤
アメリカ人アナリストとして一番最初に大谷翔平の価値に気付いてくれて有難うございます❤❤
おそらく日本人全員が貴方に感謝しています❤❤❤
貴方の情熱や分析力は当代随一と思います🎉
今後も応援しますねー😊
You Sir are RIGHT!! No Wtong!!
True. Every team can spend their money too if they want to win world series
I followed baseball before the Curt Flood Case. That led to Free Agency. Before then Teams controlled players even after their 1-year contracts expired. A lot of these debates were also around during the Big Red Machine. 3 MVPs in a line up at one time. Every team had the opportunity. Some do it, some play money ball.
I also followed baseball before free agency and spoke to a MLB player who played before free agency. He said that Johnny Bench earned $60,000 per year and he was paid $18,000 as a catcher for the San Diego Padres. I know that player usually worked part time jobs after the season. I agree with free agency and it is difficult to become a free agent in MLB and just ask any MLB player than never became a free agent.
@@johnwakamatsu3391 As a pre-teen, watched Pete Rose's ROY and within the last decade or so talked with him for about a half-hour.
For his 2nd job, Pete was in the Military Reserves, thus the hair cut.
He too talked about those days and how once you signed on that line, they owned your career.
If not for Curt Flood filling a case, even though he lost in SCOTUS, it brought everything to a head and my opinion.
Owners still run those first years in MiLB contracts like those old days. Understandable. They put money into player development and deserve some guarantees for their investment risk.
However, once that time is put in, so happy they can get paid their worth today.
A cap would only pull us back to the old days.
The owners make so much money today from playoffs, while unless in the contract, the player ends up playing for free after only a percent of the take in the minimum number of games in the series. Even before then do no get a percent of all return from the playoffs. Then expected to give bonuses to a lot of staff, etc.
Instead of going backwards, it is time to move more forward. The Owners need to give players more for playoffs than champagne in the clubhouse and a ring for the winners.
To win is not easy. The Owners may field the team, but I have yet to see one of them drive in a run or participate in making an opponent out.
As a life long Dodger and Angel fan. The difference between the large and small market teams is obvious. the Dodgers look at it like the product on the field is how you make the money. the fans will come if you win. the money will be there if you win.
The psychological term often associated with people who always dislike the winners is "counterdominance bias" or "anti-dominance bias." This refers to a tendency to resist or reject individuals or groups perceived as dominant or successful.
Happy Thanksgiving ben
Preach it, Ben!
I want Atlanta to spend and make some splashes!
Same with the Mariners. They need to spend and get a great infield that are also great bats.
Appreciate your valid point of views 👍
What do you think Players consider most when offers are within a small percentage of range of difference? Player Development? Location? Team Mgmt? Teammates?
If the salaries were the same, I would choose the Dodgers without even considering it.
Excellent analysis of what the true situation is. Cubs, Pirates, Orioles make a ton of money but don’t put a good product on the field and no one bats an eyelash. Cheap owners are the problem.
I don't see it happening but man, Soto to the Red Sox would be the BEST timeline. He can be the next Big Papi as well. Generational DH.
I don't understand the issue with deferred money if the AAV / CBT hit is still fair? Ohtani has most of his contract deferred but it's still $46M against the CBT threshold and $46M the Dodgers have to pay into escrow every year - which is the highest salary of any player in the league. How is it unfair that the Dodgers are paying more for Ohtani than any player in the MLB?
I like your idea of a salary floor. I've always wondered if the salary cap might make rich owners pay less to players, which would be bad for everyone else. By setting an appropriate salary floor, this problem might be solved as well.
In Japan, in a certain field, a person who is so strong that it is difficult to beat them no matter how much time, money, hard training, state-of-the-art equipment, machines, data analysis, etc., is spent, and who continues to be active for a long time, is called a "musou（kanji 無双）." Examples of such Japanese men include current baseball player Shohei Otani, gymnast Kohei Uchimura at the peak of his career, and swimmer Kosuke Hagino. Skating star Yuzuru Hanyu was so strong that he was nicknamed the "Japanese Emperor" of the skating world.
@9:24 I thought the CBT hit for Snell’s deal was $32M not $34M?
I was personally aiming at Blake since MLB revealed 24-25 FA list. He was on top same as Corbin with 7.2 WAR amongst starting pitchers(Shohei's highschool superior Yusei was the 3rd with 6.0). So I'm so happy with his joining LAD. But TTTT the team's pitching competence is still insufficient. Yossy, Glasnow, Blake, Shohei, Jack...we need 1 more potent starter to firm six-men.
The context about this is appreciated. Objectively speaking, I think a lot of people are upset because the Dodgers fanbase is known to be insufferable. Not my take. Just from what I've seen online.
Here's my issue. MLB likes to prop up the same markets globally. There are superstars on most other teams. If the NBA can make Oklahoma City and Denver merchandise cool in the mainstream, MLB can do the same with its teams not from LA or NY. Even if my team, the Toronto Blue Jays, spent a billion dollars, the media will still contextually get everything wrong about my team and city. Not to mention the xenophobic jokes. National media writers last year deemed Toronto "bad for baseball" if Ohtani signed there.
the padres and giants subreddits are in absolute shambles right now. all of their fans need to watch this.
I want to put this out there.
I think the Dodgers should fill Right Field...NOT with Soto, but rather...Mike Trout.
Dodgers can give quiet a few assets like Landon Knack, Michael Grove and 3 first round picks (***can't trade picks apparently... therefore add 2-3 more pro ready prospects). That is extremely fair, and the way Trout has not played most of the past 5 seasons...I think they'd strongly consider it
I have no idea what I'm talking about, but that trade sounds nuts. But, I'd love to see Trout play in more meaningful games. 😪
no way arte moreno wants to trade mike trout anywhere let alone to LA.
MLB teams can trade prospects, not draft picks. The Dodgers can't deal 3 number one's, this isn't the NFL or NHL.
@@ponyexpress2724 Okay... good to know. Then trade LA Angels 4 Pro-ready players. The two I named plus two more.
It would be hard for Arte to say no to that, considering the return.
With all due respect to Mike Trout he is in no shape to play RF. That man needs to be a full time DH at this point.
It's a reason to be mad at your cheap team and more teams should be like the Dodgers. PREACH BROTHER!!!
Flippin Bats guy...please read. I don't how u came up on my feed , but u are the best! I don't know who u are or what team you support? But u are natural. If u are not on the radio you should be. Happy Thanksgiving buddy!
I appreciate that!
Agree 100%
That is my point. A lot of teams do defer, not just the Dodgers. Every team can, they just don't. They make a lot of money from winning playoffs. Break out that Uncle Scrooge Coin Purse.
They’ll sign Soto, Sasaki, Alonso and Adames next. They can play in their own division with the Yankees.
Preach
625 million Shohei fans agree with you! 😃😄😁🙂🙃
I just don’t see how there isn’t a lockout after the ‘26 season. The owners are gonna want a hard cap like the NHL has.
Angels will always be the biggest fool’s in baseball history. They had a chance to get 10 top 100 prospects and instead let Ohtani walk and trout lose his trade value
The Angels are the Clippers of baseball, though the Angels did win one.
Will be interesting to see where LA goes from here. Does this mean that they are out on Sasaki and Burnes? With the Dodgers, you can never be sure. Happy Thanksgiving.🦃
I'd say that it may point to them being out on Walker Buehler... POSSIBLY out on Teoscar Hernandez... I don't believe they were ever in on Corbin Burnes... BUT, Roki Sasaki's price tag is low, so they're definitely still in on him.
Happy🦃Thanksgiving!
omg - please don't be out on Sasaki!! Can you imagine that starting lineup? Ohtani, Yamamoto, Sasaki, Snell, Kershaw, Glasnow, Stone? 'Coach, I wanna throw today - Coach: maybe tomorrow.' 🤯🥳
@milton480h we need Teoscar back. I think he will be back
@@THEMASTER26 I hope you're right. Teoscar seems to be a great teammate.
Putting a good product on the field generates more fans, which will generate more views, demand on TV, resulting in better TV deals. Cheap owners don’t want to do the work or take the chance.
another thing, ppl are "yelling to yell, to be mad" bec it garners views. Its hard to get views if you're like "Yeah, I guess Im okay with that, I dont care either way." Whos going to click on that video?
I don’t care if they go over the luxury tax. It’s the differ part for me which I get upset about and you’re right it’s the owners. I agree with you. So I’m upset at both the owners and differ. I wish more teams spent money like the rangers go get a few of the top end pitchers like the dodgers but that’s not the case. You’re right been but I hate it love the show
All the complaints come from jealousy and self anger, whether they want to admit it or not.
If they can't re-sign Teo ! They will trade for Robert Jr and most likely crochet!! I believe they got a verbal agreement with willy adames they land sasaki for a rookie contract 😂😂😂 good luck to the rest of MLB teams trying to win a world series
Talk about collecting all the infinity stones! I like the way you think! LFG!
@02phenom Snell sound good to you 💀
@@Userrrtube at his best he’s a top 3 pitcher in the game. I do like the signing for sure
holy dynesty in the making, big ben. this past year the l.a. dodgers won their first true world series title since '88 without a starting rotation. now they'll start '25 with an embarassment of riches in that department, ohtani may not need to pitch? but, as we saw in '24 nothing's a guarentee when the white lines are drawn, 162 a helluva long season -go halos
salary cap the owners?
All deferring this money does is allow the players to be able to collect the paycheck in a state with no income tax. So in reality they’re saving money, unless they’re cool paying a 14% state income tax. Ohtani is saving $100 million not having to pay California income tax by deferring
they just want to play with Ohtani. When you are unwilling to spend money to sign Shohei Ohtani, you are already doomed to fail. Shohei Ohtani can share most of the pressure of other stars, which is the most important thing
18:28 lol, Soto dont give a damn about the history
Garrett Crochet will go to the Dodger..they been eyeing him and they want him..Dodger is gonna go with 6 man rotation and they need depth to maintain a 6 man rotation..they learn 2024 and won't let that happen again with starting pitching..it their # 1 weakness and it need to be fix with 6 man rotation so they won't lose alot of pitcher and keep them healthy for post season.
Ask the owners - you want a salary cap? Ok then no more revenue sharing. What do you think they'd prefer lol
All the teams could have signed Snell to a long term contract last year. No one wanted him. How much of this is like seeing your ex who you dumped suddenly on tv dating a movie star?
Rich people are often cheap people. They got rich by not spending everything they have all the time. That habit results in some owners not putting out a competitive product. The team makes money though, which is what really matters to them.
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if dodger hater ben verlander is telling you guys that the dodgers AREN’T the problem… you should probably listen
Dodger fans don't want SOTO and if it wasn't for Scott Boras' ego he would never leave the Yankees...its the perfect fit for a good hitting, meh fielding Soto... Give us Teoscar Hernandez and we want him back NOW!
The Yankees win, ahhhh Yankees wiiiin !!!!
Soto will not sign with the Dodgers. He will sign with a NY Team.
I don’t think anyone is mad at the Dodgers people are pissed off that this is allowed by MLB. Also the Yankees were hated for this exact reason so your takes are way off on this topic. I normally agree with you but not on this
The Yankees did this since the beginning and are still doing this, The Mets are about to spend big bucks The dodgers are more creative than other franchises. Afraid I don’t see your point.
You can say whatever you want it is unfair to the small market teams that you can spend whatever you want unless a small market team doesn’t mind losing money what they really need to do is get rid of all the TV contracts and have it be MLB TV that you pay for and they’ll be revenue sharing equal with every team and get rid of the deferred contracts
I am so sick of the deferred battle cry. Many teams defer money. Ken Griffen Jr just got paid this year because of deferment. Same people whining about deferment are the same people who will say, you can't buy wins if LA doesn't win. It's a joke
No buddy, the Dodgers aren’t paying the same luxury tax the Mets are. They’re avoiding paying part of this by deferment.
Not just that but the best player in the league has deferred all of his contract, so other teams can’t catch up.
The Dodgers are not avoiding a luxury tax. The deferred payments still count against the luxury tax. Ohtani's hit is $46m a year, the present-day AAV of the contract. Snell's will be $34m a year. Betts, Freeman, etc - all of their present-day AAVs count against the luxury tax. Then the Dodgers are also required by the CBA to set aside the present-day AAV of every contract in escrow. They can't just kick the can down the road and hope for the best, they need to have that money. Every year. So yes, the Dodgers are paying the luxury tax just as all the other teams above the threshold.
@what? That’s the very definition of avoiding part of the tax penalty. They’re avoiding the other percent of that salary. If Ohtani hadn’t deferred they’d be on the hook for 70 mil.
It’s quite literally the main reason to do this, to be able to pay people a copious amount of money but not facing the penalty of having to pay the luxury tax for the full amount.
@eddyrdz7543 They are literally not avoiding anything. They are paxing the tax according to the rules set. Deferred contracts are taxed at NPV instead of total value because deferred money inherently has less value. $68m in 2034 will be worth a LOT less than $68m paid out this year, that's just how money and economics work. If Ohtani hadn't deferred it would have just been a standard $460-500/10 contract, which is... what the tax hit is already. The extra $200m-ish is just to make up for the devaluation of the money he'll receive.
Deferring helps with payroll/cashflow. But it does not circumvent the luxury tax the way people are hung up on. The team still takes a hit at the contract's NPV, for every player.