What if Native Americans Discovered the Old World First (Pt. 2)

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  • People often wonder about non-Europeans "discovering" the Americas, but what if things went the other way around?
    Second part of an special collaboration with Jabari from the From Nothing channel
    For Part 1, click here and visit Jabari's channel!
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  • @OllieBye
    @OllieBye 5 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Really enjoyed this collab, well done both of you!

  • @tyronechillifoot5573
    @tyronechillifoot5573 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Groups like the yoruba igbo and benin if contacted would probably spread their specific type of furnace that they used to make steel to to them trade iron goods ivory in exchange for stuff like peppers copper bronze crafts you'd probably see benin depiction of various Mesoamerican groups similar to their depictions of the Portuguese the pagans africans would probably start worshiping various Mesoamerican gods as a result of trade it would intresting to imagen what benin depiction of Mesoamerican gods would be like

    • @sjappiyah4071
      @sjappiyah4071 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Would definitely be interesting to see

  • @matthewmann8969
    @matthewmann8969 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I think that they would have some conflicts for each other but mostly they would get along sharing details and information with one another in various ideals and styles

  • @gnomesayin1440
    @gnomesayin1440 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I think the horse would have helped spread other crops and goods to places outside of Mesoamerica, a lot faster, and paper like amatł, but it would also expand the empires of Tawantinsuyu and Yexcan Tlahtolloyan to really far distances. It would probably also create ties or interaction between the two empires.

    • @AztlanHistorian
      @AztlanHistorian  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Given the point of divergence we had for this scenario, there wouldn't be any Excan Tlahtoyocan nor Tawantinsuyu to speak of :)

  • @titogarcia1169
    @titogarcia1169 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Hello. Seeing the first video of yours. Funny how when you start watching a channel and forget why, this will be how I find yours. I really enjoyed this. Someone has to tell Amerindian history

    • @AztlanHistorian
      @AztlanHistorian  5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Glad you enjoyed the video! And yeah, Amerindian history definitely needs to be told :)

  • @earlymanproductions8863
    @earlymanproductions8863 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Very Interesting Aztlan. I wouldn't have found out about your channel if it weren't for the Discord Server.

  • @blackvelvet5320
    @blackvelvet5320 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    From Nothing brought me here. Learning about African History was fun & enlightening. I know extremely little about America before Europeans arrived. I'll be sure to look at all of you prior videos for more information :)

    • @AztlanHistorian
      @AztlanHistorian  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Be welcome! Hope you keep enjoying my content!

  • @bigdurk4115
    @bigdurk4115 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Jabari brought me here

    • @AztlanHistorian
      @AztlanHistorian  5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Be welcome to my channel!

    • @bigdurk4115
      @bigdurk4115 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@AztlanHistorian glad to be here

  • @supaa4512
    @supaa4512 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have been asking myself this question for years. Good video

  • @MPDthegamer
    @MPDthegamer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Could you please do a video on how the political map would look like in Central and South America if there was never colonization

    • @vacatiolibertas
      @vacatiolibertas 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would definitely want that since I'm working on a map right now for an "Ideal World" where I'm planning on liberating various minority peoples such as many of the American natives

    • @hellknightf1
      @hellknightf1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vacatiolibertas "liberating minority people" wouldnt work as in most of the American continent the direct european descendants are actually the minority, this would only work in the US

    • @hellknightf1
      @hellknightf1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Im too Interested on this, as it would be ovbious to think Mayans and Aztecs would have consolidated the strongest empires in the region and Mexico would be not as we see it today, with probably as many countries as we see in the European region and maybe just as many languages.

    • @AztlanHistorian
      @AztlanHistorian  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The indigenous peoples are a minority in many countries in the Americas. Not only the US
      Canada, Dominica, Brazil, Argentina, Chile and others have very small indigenous populations in proportion to their total populations. Not to mention that countrie slike Haiti, Bahamas or Uruguay don't have any native peoples left :(

    • @AztlanHistorian
      @AztlanHistorian  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There were far more civilizations that could've established strong empires in the region, yet everyone seems to only know the proverbial "Aztecs and Maya". Man, that duo makes a grest disservice to Mesoamerica

  • @wafalme851
    @wafalme851 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Jabari that’s why I’m here

  • @devs2kwik588
    @devs2kwik588 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awesome bro absolutely awesome, do more

  • @mygvmtnamepublicallyavailable
    @mygvmtnamepublicallyavailable 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I wish I had a time machine to have this happen thereby stopping the ecological and humanitarian holocaust that was European colonisation.

    • @YungSeti
      @YungSeti 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same

    • @MMasterDE
      @MMasterDE 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you think it would have been better....

  • @grandmastercrusader8724
    @grandmastercrusader8724 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Awesome video, great collaboration between you two.

  • @klip8726
    @klip8726 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Music in the video was tight. Good vid

  • @TheRealFrankZombo
    @TheRealFrankZombo ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is incredible thank you!

  • @HassanUmer
    @HassanUmer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    happy to discover this great channel!

  • @takshashila2995
    @takshashila2995 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Nice!

    • @AztlanHistorian
      @AztlanHistorian  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Glad you enjoyed it :)

    • @takshashila2995
      @takshashila2995 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AztlanHistorian Are you Russian?

    • @AztlanHistorian
      @AztlanHistorian  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@takshashila2995 Niet, why? Do I sound Russian? :)

    • @takshashila2995
      @takshashila2995 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@AztlanHistorian Yes,You do.

  • @kylewatson23
    @kylewatson23 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We would have taken our rightful spot as rulers of the world lol

  • @ANTSEMUT1
    @ANTSEMUT1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another what if scenario is what if they made the discovery through the Pacific route, as in first contacting the nearest polynesian and just making they way to south east Asia by island hoping.

  • @EmethMatthew
    @EmethMatthew 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Here because of From Nothing!

  • @sjappiyah4071
    @sjappiyah4071 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Excellent Collaboration !

  • @vacatiolibertas
    @vacatiolibertas 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What are your thoughts on the Zapotec Maya Liberation Movement?

    • @AztlanHistorian
      @AztlanHistorian  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The what? Didn't you mean "Zapatista"?
      And I prefer to keep my political opinions for myself :)

  • @kylewatson23
    @kylewatson23 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I wish I knew about this channel earlier lol

  • @vazak11
    @vazak11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very cool!

  • @thomasmccullough7233
    @thomasmccullough7233 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent video.

  • @ancientbuilds3764
    @ancientbuilds3764 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just found this today. You guys are on the ball.

  • @swatisquantum
    @swatisquantum 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    America is the old world.

    • @ANTSEMUT1
      @ANTSEMUT1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      WUT no? Granted it is a eurocentric concept of the world but it still represents places Europeans had constant contact since antiquity. So that doesn't include the Americas.

  • @earlymanproductions8863
    @earlymanproductions8863 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you take video requests?

    • @AztlanHistorian
      @AztlanHistorian  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I plan to do so in the future. I already have a list of projects to do for the next year, including the prospect of getting a Patreon account if possible, so I can accept them on demand :)

  • @임태녹
    @임태녹 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    subtitles plz ㅠㅠ

    • @임태녹
      @임태녹 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      i means auto_translate
      sorry for poor english;;

    • @AztlanHistorian
      @AztlanHistorian  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@임태녹 Sorry I don't know Korean :(