When i decided to go back to motorcycles, my target was an adventure. So, went to BMW to get the 1300, when i saw how tiny it is i was shocked! The salesman showed me the last 2024 1250GSA TB, fully loaded. So i got it. I fell in love with it. When i saw the 130GSA, my love for my 1250 increased. Thank god i did not wait. Now, i am looking to add 1 more bike in the garage, and i am considering an M109R
Me too! They moved to far away from the look and style that made BMW so popular to begin with. Theyre trying to appeal to a younger generation I think. Also, your losing a few extras on the 1300 just to save a bit of weight? Ill happily keep my 1250GSA
I ran and bought the last 1250 GS Rallye when I saw the 1300! Came home and told my wife “this is the bike that will be here for ever!”. 😅 That was just a few months ago… However, now, 8.000 kms later, having suffered the clunkiness of this horrible gear box, and having tried ASA, I am sold on the platform. Last week I saw the 1300 GSA in person and it was love at first sight! I absolutely love the design of it and have decided I will be changing soon. Still trying to figure out though what to tell the wife this time!
35,000 faultless miles on my 2021 GSA, brilliant bike. I’ve just ordered the new GS 1300 adv. like it or not, the GS 1300 is the top selling adv bike and the GSA 1300 will sell like hot cakes when it’s launched. This is change, it’s been the same with cars. You start off saying ‘ don’t like the look of that ‘ … a year down the line and old faithful in the garage is looking dated and your little neurons in your brain have started to process all the positives of the newer model. You said ‘ this will be the big one, the Rhino ‘….. well the new GSA is a utilitarian battle tank in looks and I’m going to black it all out as I have with my current bike. A few kilos here and there won’t matter as most of us need to lose some kilos ourselves 😂
Had a 1250GSA, traded it in for a 1300GS. Only to sell the 1300 and buy a 1250GSA again after 3 weeks. The 1300 is a great bike, but not a GS. I don't agree with FIKA often but the 1200/1250 will go down as legendary indeed. The 1300 will go down as just another sportstourer.
I know at least one who part exchanged his 1300gs for the last of the 1250gsa's, I too won't be parting with my 1250gsa if I had money spare would definitely buy the last of the 1250gsa.
I laugh like crazy watching your videos ... so damn funny! Anyways, the TWO reasons I purchased my Tiger 1200 over the GS is: Had two final drive failures on my older BMW. The Triumph uses a double sided swingarm to properly support the final drive. I do not worry the damn FD is going to crap out on me miles and miles from home. I did like the 1200 boxer, but where the hell am I supposed to put my feet to stretch out. Highway pegs on a boxer? With the Triumph, I am able to stretch out with ease, no contortions. BMW can blow for all I care. Ned, SC, USA
@@LMO169 So you have your legs splayed out to the side, outboard the cylinder heads? Or do you rest on top of the cylinders? This 'ol boy does not bend like that anymore!
You know what. The GS was my 3rd choice and I signed up for a Multistrada v4 rally and Tiger 1200 rally explorer. How I ended up with the 1250 GS is a story for the future
Why did you find it crap? Isn't it more powerful, smoother and better handling? I had a 1250GS and found it lacking in character. I'm hesitating between the 1300 and the Guzzi Mandello V100s
On my third GS ready for a good compromise because they're too expensive now, going for a Suzuki 1050 Vstrom it's got all the toys minus shaft. But a Scottoiler will sort that
LMAO just saw a drag race between the 1250 and 1300. Exactly the same speed. I think the 1250 has a little (very little) advantage over the 1200 LC, and that's it. They are all amazing but they are the same bike. The 1300 has 10x the restrictions and regulations than the 1200, and still has about the same speed. That's why it sucks, like modern sportbikes compared to old. I guess that's the problem with Rayguns, she was great but she's learned Euro6 breakdance.
@@adv_addict both of my bikes have been the standard GS with ESA. My 2016 with Sachs shocks had 4 levels of preload an 3 damping settings. My 2022 with ZF shocks has 1 usable preload setting (auto) with the min and max settings being too extreme, and 2 damping settings. The 22 Enduro modes only have 1 damping setting with a significant difference off road between the two bikes. The electronic damping valve on the older suspension had a higher quality coil arrangement with a faster response time. I have three sources: The Beemer Shop, my dealer, and my ass. BMW addressed the suspension on the 1300 but I rode one off road, and while it is much better than my 1250 the rebound damping is still lacking IMO. Big Rock Moto has mentioned the same observation.
Not only did we (England) get beaten in the Euros, our weather has been monumentally shit (even for the UK) for the past two summers. Just set off for a camping trip in Scotland on the mighty R1250 GSA, only to nope the fuck out three hours into the journey when torrential rain soaked through my textile suit and high winds were blowing me about the road. Rain was coming through the vents on my helmet! I got up at 2am for this! Think i'll just spend my day getting shitfaced in my garage, and stroking my cardan shaft instead. Great presenting style by the way. Fresh and different 👍
I absolutely despise the 1300. I'd go for the 1250 in a heartbeat but as it's huge money and will probably develop problems a millisecond after its warranty expires, I'll go for a Japanese bike instead. Fuck European bikes. They're all shite to some degree.
@@thefika Not sure but will see what happens. Is the front and rear on the 1300 GS suppose to pogo up and down? A youtuber has videos showing his is and claims that is a big problem? I can see the rear but the front on my 1250 is stiff as a board and no diving at all?
Decent video. Have the exact 1250 GSA (same colors! 👍). It’s the perfect adventure bike. I think he’s right,about the 1300. I am not at all tempted to upgrade. I found all the f-bombs a real distraction and they take away from all his work in putting the video together.
NO NO NO - the new 1300 is the best and everyone needs to sell the 1250 .........so that i can buy the 1250 cheap...................i hope your mum doesn't watch this what with all the swearing......
You're gonna miss it. It's tearing my ears out. So far the worst review on youtube and the content is also about nothing. You're trying to be funny but the opposite is true. Sorry
When i decided to go back to motorcycles, my target was an adventure. So, went to BMW to get the 1300, when i saw how tiny it is i was shocked! The salesman showed me the last 2024 1250GSA TB, fully loaded. So i got it. I fell in love with it. When i saw the 130GSA, my love for my 1250 increased. Thank god i did not wait.
Now, i am looking to add 1 more bike in the garage, and i am considering an M109R
So happy with my 2023 R1250GSA Rallye. Incredible motorcycle.
💯 GOAT 🐐
I have the same bike and love it.
I don’t have any issues with it looking ugly and I’m starting to like the look 👀👍
Me too! They moved to far away from the look and style that made BMW so popular to begin with. Theyre trying to appeal to a younger generation I think. Also, your losing a few extras on the 1300 just to save a bit of weight?
Ill happily keep my 1250GSA
I ran and bought the last 1250 GS Rallye when I saw the 1300! Came home and told my wife “this is the bike that will be here for ever!”. 😅 That was just a few months ago… However, now, 8.000 kms later, having suffered the clunkiness of this horrible gear box, and having tried ASA, I am sold on the platform. Last week I saw the 1300 GSA in person and it was love at first sight! I absolutely love the design of it and have decided I will be changing soon. Still trying to figure out though what to tell the wife this time!
35,000 faultless miles on my 2021 GSA, brilliant bike. I’ve just ordered the new GS 1300 adv. like it or not, the GS 1300 is the top selling adv bike and the GSA 1300 will sell like hot cakes when it’s launched. This is change, it’s been the same with cars. You start off saying ‘ don’t like the look of that ‘ … a year down the line and old faithful in the garage is looking dated and your little neurons in your brain have started to process all the positives of the newer model.
You said ‘ this will be the big one, the Rhino ‘….. well the new GSA is a utilitarian battle tank in looks and I’m going to black it all out as I have with my current bike. A few kilos here and there won’t matter as most of us need to lose some kilos ourselves 😂
Epic mate! Thanks for sharing
Had a 1250GSA, traded it in for a 1300GS. Only to sell the 1300 and buy a 1250GSA again after 3 weeks. The 1300 is a great bike, but not a GS.
I don't agree with FIKA often but the 1200/1250 will go down as legendary indeed. The 1300 will go down as just another sportstourer.
4 minutes into this and so far nothing but fluff. Do you ever get to the point ??
The best fluff you ever had. Youre welcome.no one is forcing you to watch
@@thefika The problem with videos like this is that you don't respect people's time.
Thats ironic. Why are you wasting my time?
@@thefika they are all out there mucka! We’re bleeding surounded!😂
@@AB-hx9hsno one cares about your time issues.
Now that the GS 1300 Adv. is out there, I can't wait to see the updated version of this video :-))).
Im dying!!!! lmfao!!!! Love your channel and your honesty. Fuck all!!!! First channel I come by without fanboy comments. Subscribed!
Laughed out loud with you here mate. Subscribed 😂😂😂🙏🙏🙏
Thanks. I love your work
Battle tested is the one. 1250 would do the job for me.
Great comparison.
Great video, I am looking at Triumph Tiger 1200 rally explorer. or a low km GSA rally 1250, you can keep the new GSA1300, thanks for sharing. Cheers
I love the Tiger 1200 and you can get it a song atm
Masterful! 😂 Great video, and I agree, although I’m still a sucker for the old oilhead R1200 GSA.
Yer airhead is epic
I know at least one who part exchanged his 1300gs for the last of the 1250gsa's, I too won't be parting with my 1250gsa if I had money spare would definitely buy the last of the 1250gsa.
The only way to fly
Don’t mind the looks , the cost is crazy 😢,great video chuckling to myself your comments,😢🏴
Have a good one mate
I laugh like crazy watching your videos ... so damn funny!
Anyways, the TWO reasons I purchased my Tiger 1200 over the GS is:
Had two final drive failures on my older BMW. The Triumph uses a double sided swingarm to properly support the final drive. I do not worry the damn FD is going to crap out on me miles and miles from home.
I did like the 1200 boxer, but where the hell am I supposed to put my feet to stretch out. Highway pegs on a boxer? With the Triumph, I am able to stretch out with ease, no contortions.
BMW can blow for all I care.
Ned, SC, USA
I have the additional Wunderlich bars for the stock crash bars and on long cruises I rest my legs on them.
@@LMO169 So you have your legs splayed out to the side, outboard the cylinder heads? Or do you rest on top of the cylinders? This 'ol boy does not bend like that anymore!
@@NedRochford Legs are on top of the cylinders
You know what. The GS was my 3rd choice and I signed up for a Multistrada v4 rally and Tiger 1200 rally explorer. How I ended up with the 1250 GS is a story for the future
@@thefika Do tell, do tell.
Ned
I agree that the 1300gs is crap compared to my 1250gs, I rode it twice.
If bmw follow what they did with the 1300gs, we are screwed. I hope not!
Thanks for your thoughts
Why did you find it crap? Isn't it more powerful, smoother and better handling? I had a 1250GS and found it lacking in character. I'm hesitating between the 1300 and the Guzzi Mandello V100s
1300 is better if you want a sports tourer but the1250 GS is better. This explains th-cam.com/video/sF8NXhiIhpc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=qgq_DFMRdI9tEH6r&t=6171
1250 GSA all the way no AMMO CAN with wheels for me.
Woof
love this video. Although it is rubbish, no fact, nothing to be based on, only emotion talking, but I loved it!
🐑 Have a great day
On my third GS ready for a good compromise because they're too expensive now, going for a Suzuki 1050 Vstrom it's got all the toys minus shaft. But a Scottoiler will sort that
Yep. 👍 the prices have gone crazy
When will you be riding the 1300 GSA?
LMAO just saw a drag race between the 1250 and 1300. Exactly the same speed. I think the 1250 has a little (very little) advantage over the 1200 LC, and that's it. They are all amazing but they are the same bike. The 1300 has 10x the restrictions and regulations than the 1200, and still has about the same speed. That's why it sucks, like modern sportbikes compared to old.
I guess that's the problem with Rayguns, she was great but she's learned Euro6 breakdance.
Thanks for sharing. Raygun for life
Same was said about the 1200 vs 1250
I liked my 1200 GS more than my 1250GS.
Yer but it’s basically the same bike with a shift cam motor and some extra tech
@@thefika My 1200 had a better suspension. BMW cheapened them up in 2018.
@@Brad-RB Do you have any source on this information? How is the 2018 GSA suspension worse than the 2017 version?
@@adv_addict both of my bikes have been the standard GS with ESA. My 2016 with Sachs shocks had 4 levels of preload an 3 damping settings. My 2022 with ZF shocks has 1 usable preload setting (auto) with the min and max settings being too extreme, and 2 damping settings. The 22 Enduro modes only have 1 damping setting with a significant difference off road between the two bikes. The electronic damping valve on the older suspension had a higher quality coil arrangement with a faster response time. I have three sources: The Beemer Shop, my dealer, and my ass. BMW addressed the suspension on the 1300 but I rode one off road, and while it is much better than my 1250 the rebound damping is still lacking IMO. Big Rock Moto has mentioned the same observation.
Not only did we (England) get beaten in the Euros, our weather has been monumentally shit (even for the UK) for the past two summers. Just set off for a camping trip in Scotland on the mighty R1250 GSA, only to nope the fuck out three hours into the journey when torrential rain soaked through my textile suit and high winds were blowing me about the road. Rain was coming through the vents on my helmet! I got up at 2am for this! Think i'll just spend my day getting shitfaced in my garage, and stroking my cardan shaft instead. Great presenting style by the way. Fresh and different 👍
Ah mate at least you got a good stoke in. I hope you see better days soon.
Thanks for sharing that. It was a good laugh.
Unfortunately every time I see a photo of the R1300GSA all I see is the slab of a gas tank that looks like a BMW key fob !!
A good one
Absolutely spot on coment.
But which one has the bigger shaft? (not that it matters 👀)
Yes. 1300 wins then. I tell my misses my small but cute
I as well went for brand new GSA, instead of the GS 1300.
The only way to fly
got a GSA triple black back in '22 racked! Best decision eva'!😅🤣
The only way to fly
Maybe you could be Raygun 2, being such a stroker
yea nah. GS Man With Long Shaft
I commented too soon, great review and I totally agree. But still a stroker
Oh no, not Mr Shouty again.
You love it
1300 GSA 💪🏻
The 1300 has a bigger shaft!!! That’s more than enough to buy one!!! Great video!
That is a good reason
Cheers mate. Like it. Just buy the S1000XR
Oh Yes. I love that bike
I absolutely despise the 1300. I'd go for the 1250 in a heartbeat but as it's huge money and will probably develop problems a millisecond after its warranty expires, I'll go for a Japanese bike instead. Fuck European bikes. They're all shite to some degree.
Some people say the 1300 is a appliance and the 1250 is a machine
To me the new GS looks like a Honda NC750X!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yep the normal 1300 does
SUZUKI DL250
I just saw the 44 TOOTH guys latest video and he says he has a 1300 GSA on order.
Did you expect anything else?
@@thefika Not sure but will see what happens. Is the front and rear on the 1300 GS suppose to pogo up and down? A youtuber has videos showing his is and claims that is a big problem? I can see the rear but the front on my 1250 is stiff as a board and no diving at all?
Fried Rice Kernel for the 1300 GSA
Wash the starch off that rice
Typical video from a 1250 owner. I bet they are all so bitter 😅
Speak for yourself
@thefika ive been riding GS's since 1999. Oh, ive just ordered a new GSA 1300 for March delivery. Is that speaking for myself ?
😍😍😍😍🤣🤣🤣🤣Your approach is marvellous, real motorcycle journalism.
Thanks mate. Av a good one
its like comparing two turds!😂big heavy smelly turds laying about in starbucks while someone on a c90 is smashing it offroad just down the road!😂😂😂😂
You tell em
谨慎购买BMW的新款车辆，2年3年后可能会稳定可靠的多
他们的新产品并不完善，后期各种修补和升级才逐渐完善
Decent video. Have the exact 1250 GSA (same colors! 👍). It’s the perfect adventure bike. I think he’s right,about the 1300. I am not at all tempted to upgrade. I found all the f-bombs a real distraction and they take away from all his work in putting the video together.
Totally agree
Ha!
Woof
Clickbait annoying junk with no substance at all. Like, you are really taking people for idiots.
I’ll take that on advisement from the foremost expert on idiots.
Take it easy on the kiwis man 😄
baaaaa 🐑
NO NO NO - the new 1300 is the best and everyone needs to sell the 1250 .........so that i can buy the 1250 cheap...................i hope your mum doesn't watch this what with all the swearing......
Hehehe Shhhhhhh… don’t tell everyone
you make me laugh
Glad I could help 👍 everyone is just to serious
Tallyho😂
😂😂😂
Woof
You're gonna miss it. It's tearing my ears out. So far the worst review on youtube and the content is also about nothing. You're trying to be funny but the opposite is true. Sorry
Thank you
The person in the yellow shirt is also an attention seeker... The action is too much, hee hee
Do you mean the Green and Gold Jacket?
😂😂😂