BMW R1300GS 4-Month Brutally Honest OWNER REVIEW | In-Depth Pros and Cons (EP.6)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.ค. 2024
- In part 6 of the ownership review of the 2023 BMW R1300GS I lay out the brutallly honest pros and cons to owning and riding this bike after 4 months. Is it really better than a Ducati Multistrada, KTM 1290 Adventure, Triumph Tiger 1200, Honda Africa Twin, and the outgoing R1250GS? Let me explain why this is the best GS ever, despite a lot of misinformation out there. #advrider #adv #motorcycle #bmw #r1300gs #r1250gs #bmwgs
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00:00 Intro
00:45 Negativity?
02:14 Luggage Recall
03:15 Pro: Adaptive Height
05:46 Pro: Radar
07:48 Pro: Tech
09:29 Pro: Telelever
10:33 Pro: New Suspension
12:47 Pro: Wind Protection
14:09 Tires
17:06 Pro: Road Handling
20:07 Pro: Off Road Ability
29:18 Pro: Heating
29:35 Pro: Lighting
30:15 Pro: Forged Wheels
31:46 Pro: Shifting
32:53 Con: Controls
34:34 Con: Comfort
37:14 Con: Rebound Damping
37:58 Con: TCS
39:09 Con: Styling
40:02 Con: Price
42:56 Conclusion - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Would you buy the GS or something else? Why or why not?
➕ R1300GS Mods and Accessories so Far...
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⚡Mosko Moto Reckless 40 and BackCountry 25: tinyurl.com/2syntbhe
⚡Denali B6 Brake Light: tinyurl.com/9746het9
⚡Cool Covers Seat Cover: www.coolcovers.co.uk/
⚡Dabrabbit Graphics Kit: dabrabbit.co.kr/category/r1300gs/194/?page=3
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Looking forward to picking up a used one in 2035 when they fall into my price range. 😁
Never a BMW, I'm not stupid. Only Honda or Japanese, reliability is key and I'm not paying 30k € for a boomer overpriced motorcycle.
Bought a Trophy, love it 👍
Would you buy a GS?
Never in my life will a Beemer park in my garage 🤷
I already decided and the answer is no. There is a better bike, I was wondering if GS catches up to Multistrada but it seems they were aiming more for the SAS instead.
Somehow they felt the need to add so many electronic features such as the windshield which work worse than the manual ones (Triumph did a smart thing to remove it from their Tiger 1200), or combined brakes which make it hard to judge the force. They could have instead improved function of the suspension when riding fast or put a better clutch - KTM and Ducati have clutches that are much easier to modulate. Or redesign the electronic, the controls on GS were always a bit confusing and now are even more so. (Although ofc KTM and Ducati need the clutch more due to the boxer working from very low RPMs - something Multistrada tries to overcome with short gearing but only does maybe 80-90% job.)
Since I'm quite tall, the GS being very small (even smaller than the 900) is also a con for me.
Overall, is the GS a great and well made bike? Yes. Is Multistrada superior to it, apart from the price and fuel consumption? Also yes.
I personally wouldn't buy a big GS simply because my bike budget doesn't allow for it. My Tuareg does everything I need for half the price.
BUT, I can still admit without any hard feelings, that the GSs are without any doubt the absolut Kings of allround motorcycles. Their capabilities are absolutely astonishing and I would congratulate anyone who told me that they just bought one
Ian is such a nice guy, I have a hard time picturing him being "brutal" about anything. 😁😃🤜🤛
BMW R1300GS 4-Month Mercifully mendacious OWNER REVIEW
Ian, please don’t ever change your down to earth, concise and quickly informative waffle-free presentations.
No one ever presents me with free waffles.
I'm here tuesdays and thursdays @ Big rock comedy hour
Chapters:
00:00 Intro
00:45 Negativity?
02:14 Luggage Recall
03:15 Pro: Adaptive Height
05:46 Pro: Radar
07:48 Pro: Tech
09:29 Pro: Telelever
10:33 Pro: New Suspension
12:47 Pro: Wind Protection
14:09 Tires
17:06 Pro: Road Handling
20:07 Pro: Off Road Ability
29:18 Pro: Heating
29:35 Pro: Lighting
30:15 Pro: Forged Wheels
31:46 Pro: Shifting
32:53 Con: Controls
34:34 Con: Comfort
37:14 Con: Rebound Damping
37:58 Con: TCS
39:09 Con: Styling
40:02 Con: Price
42:56 Conclusion
As a UK owner of a R1300GS TE, I can't disagree with any of that. Thank you for providing level headed, balanced and informative reviews.
For me it just comes down to price. My $4500 VStrom + $97 a year for insurance is basically free. Moving into a 30k bike and full coverage is a totally different ballgame. Work part time and ride the crap out of the Wee or get a full time job...Uhhh
Similar to me. I have a $6000 rally raid CB500x. Commute on it, pay $150/yr for insurance, and have a great time. Hard to not see massively diminishing returns in paying 4x that for a motorcycle no matter how great it is.
The cheapest bike is the only you own and the easiest way to ride less is to need to work to Pay for your new bike.
Or:
The more I work the more I look at ads of new bikes ^^
I'll stick with my dr650.
Yep, I am in Australia, so things are more expensive. But last year I bought my brand new wee for $14,000, insurance, I asked if they made a mistake 😂. Apparently the combination of a wee and 56 years old means I am a danger to no one 😮😂, my confidence at staying alive rose significantly. The front suspension is terrible, the bike is 10kg, 22 pounds, too heavy. But, love ❤️ love 🥰 love 🎉the engine.
@@hair2050 The little Vstrom is a great bike. Just changing the battery and exhaust will probably get you halfway to 10kg without any real sacrifices apart from the dosh.
Nice job. I ordered one 6 weeks ago with all the right options and container ship arrived in NJ today. Rode 1300 with Edelweiss on Pyrenee ACT and it was terrific. Can’t wait, have boxes with LR bags, TaT rack and CW lights in the garage ready to go. Keep up the great reviews.
Ian, this is an awesome review. I am a 2022 GS1250 owner. I was in Riverside BMW on Saturday getting a new rear tire on Saturday and looking at the new bikes. They had a green one that really looked pretty nice. Hmmmmm.
Best statement when it comes to weight and off roads! Love it!
Ian, I am glad you are keeping your bike. You work hard, and you deserve the best
I appreciate that!
@@BigRockMoto I appreciate that too, but these more and more expensive bikes are part of consumerism trend that may trap you in having to work harder and harder to have the newest and the greatest. Work hard, feel you deserve a reward, spend your money and then work even harder. And next year all over again. It is difficult to resist the temptation, but do you really have a better time? (saying this as a person who is also sensitive to all this and is trying to restrain) I know you pointed out the price extensively. Great review!
Terrific comprehensive review. I love my 1250GSA for all the reasons you mentioned towards the end. They’re great all around bikes. Happy trails.
Thanks Ian. Interested in this. Hope to buy one one day! You're so good on what you do. Lucky to have you on the web!
I just returned from a week long rental of a GS 1300 in Germany and Italy. I agree with all of your comments and critiques. It was the best bike I have ever ridden. We were 100% on roads and it handles awesome. By the way we had a member of Champ School along with us also on the GS. Nice informative, insightful, and balanced feedback video, Ian.
Thanks for sharing!
I forgot to mention one thing that is super important to touring riders. Wind management. This thing has the best smooth flowing wind management of any bike I’ve ever rode. On my Harley’s and sport touring bikes I was always trying the latest shield or laminar lip in the quest to get smooth comfortable air without much success. The GS1300 just flat out kills it there. I dont even raise my electric shield up, it works so well!
And a quick comment on pricing. Yes it’s a ton of money. But from what I see they hold their value a lot better than most anything else. My ktm and Triumphs dropped like a rock, and everyone knows how normal Ducati models values drop like a rock. 50k mile BMWs still sell used for good money. Who’s buying a used triumph/ktm/ducati with 50k on it? And be honest, I’ve owned and loved them all and I know from personal experience!
I test rode so many bikes before deciding on multistrada V4. I personally feel like there’s nothing out there that looks sensational and rides like a Ducati Multistrada V4S in adventure touring segment. On freeways, there is no discussion at all.
Im gonna test ride both next week to try and decide between the V4S and 1300! I had an old 850 and sold it for the 1250 but switched to a 1600 and going back now! Wondering if the forthcoming 1300 adventure would be worth it for me since I dont need more range but love more wind/rain protection.
Whether it's adventure touring or just good ol' road touring, the things that should be very first, on the very top of your priority list when choosing a bike for that purpose, are, in order;
1. Reliability,
2. Center of Gravity and Weight Distribution of the bike,
3. The ability to fix and/or replace most things on the bike by yourself anyplace/anytime,
4. Environmental and debris protection,
5. Ergonomics and
6. Suspension.
And BMW R GS bikes already lose 3 out of these 6 very important check marks.
Over the years I did a lot of touring and adventure touring around Europe and Asia, including almost the entire Trans Euro Trail (I did about 88,000 out of 106,000 kilometers of the TET) and many other famous trails and routes, on many different bikes and with many different groups and moto clubs. The amount of times we had to adjust/change routing or wait for/stop or even put our trip to a halt because of BMW GS (and KTM) bikes and riders is more than I can count, whether it was because of reliability issues, inability to fix something or deal with the issue on the spot or just something really simple that would be a non-issue on other bikes...
ADV bikes from KTM, Ducati and BMW are more of a weekend/holiday road touring bike type, than anything else. There's a reason why the starbucks stereotype exists for these bikes 😅
@nogerboher5266 if youre taking the 1300gs, v4s and 890 SMT off my list does that mean you prefer the Japanese rides? Im also interested in the Transalp, Africa Twin, Tracer 9 and 800RE but none of the Japanese dealerships allow test rides. If i cant find one to rent I cant justify any price on something Ive never tried as my new daily commuter. :( such a bummer.
@@nogerboher5266I’m not sure I agree on the premise. While there are some limitations on roadside repairs with the newer GSs, mostly having to do with electronics, most of the mechanicals are easier to work on than many other bikes. I’ve had my 2012 R1200GSA since I bought it new at the end of 2011. It is still going strong. I took it on a solo BDR last summer, so reliability had to be there. Not a single issue. I had 2 other GSs before this one and no issues on them either.
To be fair, the newer water cooled boxer GSs especially since the shift cam are more complicated mechanically. Would that be a night & day difference from the earlier GSs? It’s really not that uncommon for BMW bikes to reach well over 100K miles on them, many hitting 250K. I was on a day ride to two states away last weekend and one of the other GSs with us was an R1100GS with 115K miles. We also had a R1200GSA water cooled and a R1250GS plus a 2006 Goldwing & an RT. None of them had any issues.
I just bought a couple used bikes from the local BMW dealer. I sat on the new GS. It was a lot heavier to get off the side stand than I thought it would be. I don't need the crazy power. I like my V85TT for the price and performance and weight.
You are the best, Ian. Thank you for all you do. 👊
Brilliant, honest, in depth revue. Enjoyed it!
Thanks so much for the thorough review and honesty!
Informative and honest. Thank you !
In my area the GS’s are ALL owned by older retirement age folks. The rest of us make do and have fun on the middleweight or small bikes for much less money.
All the money is in the hands of the older retirement age folks. They get more in pensions than we get for working. They own there houses outright. And most have around 40-50k in savings. My dad can't even spend all of his pension each month. And he goes to the pub with his mates most days and takes my mum out shopping and meals out.
@@chrishart8548 what country are you in?
@@On2wheels94 UK
TPMS needs to be on all bikes. Ian you're killing it. You talking about motorcycles, gear, and riding them is like a serenity sound generator. Soothes my soul. It keeps the motorcycle conversation going on days when it doesn't make sense to ride given life's routine. It's not easy to amass tons of subs in a relatively short timeframe in the motorcycle content segment, but keep going. Before you know it you'll be at a million and I think are the technical, realistic, and less-artsy equivalent of Fortnine. You have a niche and you're killing it. Let's goooooo!!!! BRAAAAAAP!!!
thanks!
Less Crap and more Braaaaaasp!
I really enjoy watching your reviews! Keep up the good work!
I was dying at Ian staring down the headlight. hahaha nice touch
Just another incredible video nice work, Ian
Thank you so much 👍
Great Review! Thank You!
Keep up your honest reporting. It’s so hard to find anymore.👏🏻
Practical analysis of Pros and Cons support our buying and crying less often. 🏍♾
Being a subscriber, and having viewed your videos, I think this is the best. So we’ll done Ian.
Thank you.
Wow, thanks
Ian, on TH-cam you have to be one of (if not the most) serious bike reviewer and the most invested. You really put these bikes to the test all around and we thank you for that. Cheers from Greece!
thanks
Thanks Ian. It is amazing bike. Your thorough review reflects many of my own thoughts after a week of extremely hard on/off road abuse.
awesome
Good job! I learned a lot about r1300gs …my dream bike!
You really do a good job with your reviews. This review on the 1300gs is full of useful information with none of the silly theatrical bull I've seen on other reviews. Keep doing what you're doing, and I'll keep watching.
GS/GSA, 690 and 350 - perfect Trifecta I totally agree!
I love your honest reviews. Honest thoughts. Jam packed with information. Thanks for all that you do.
You are so welcome!
This is compelling if it were not God awful ugly. Went to test ride one and while seated, revved the throttle and the bike immediately felt off balance. Promptly got off and purchased the 2024 triple black GSA. You are the first sincerely favorable review I have seen on this bike.
Thank you again for a great video. Your first 1300GS video convinced me to buy it, now I have it for 2 weeks and I already love it. Tomorrow I will have the run-in service done and than it is time to open that throttle up for the first time (for some reason I never did that on the test ride, never felt the urge I guess). This is my first bike after 9 years of a forced break (health) and I am so confident in riding it already. It is crazy.
I personally like the front a lot. Right from the very first video that was released by BMW, but I understand it is personal. I don´t mind the controls except for not being backlit, but I am not used to the controls from older BMWs, so I have a slightly different view on it I guess.
The comfort seems to be a topic. I have done a 6.5 hrs ride last weekend and I started to feel my but and right knee towards the end. Might be because I haven´t ridden in so long and might need to get some flexibility into my legs again. But we will see about it latest in August, when I do multiple trips with a couple of thousand km. In worst case I have Touratech, Wunderlich. Hornig and SW Motech here in Germany. One of them will be able to provide a good seat alternative for sure.
By the way, on friday the GSA video will drop on the BMW Motorrad TH-cam channel. From the light signature shown, it will have a similar front light but looks like thin stripes for aux lights. Really interested to see what it will bring besides the confirmed automatic gearbox option.
I love the cheeky job descriptions you give yourself.
I love this video keep up the good work
Great review ty
Great review Ian. Best adventure bike channel on TH-cam
I. LOVE. MINE. There is only one flaw, the dang seat angle. 100% agree it’s the best road going motorcycle. Checks all the boxes. I loved my Tiger 1200 Rally Explorer, loved my 1290R Super Adventure, Goldwing Tour DCT, Concours14, Speed Triple 1200RS etc etc my list is long. What a time to be a motorcyclist with so many great choices! I’ve never been a BMW fan despite demoing a ton over the years always considering them. After over 30 bikes this is my all time favorite. I’m just patiently waiting for my RDL seat date then I won’t be able to stay off this thing.
The GS has long had an adjustable seat angle by putting it in the high setting in the front and the low setting in the back. Is that no longer the case?
@youtubeaccount9058 nope. There's an adjustment but it's only at the back of the seat and it feels like it just pushes the middle area of the back up like a hump.
It’s simple. Ian your the most honest reviewer. That is a rare commodity across the globe now days. Thanks again for what you do.
I appreciate that!
Outstanding and informative review.Thanks.
Adaptive seat height. I had an '05 Gs for 110,00Km over 10 years. At 5'8"1/2 the bike was always High. I learned how to handle it.Did coast to Coast tro Coast 2 up ...42 days on the road. The height and the top heaviness never disappeared.....Several years later I ride a 23 year old R 1150 R and the joy of reaching the ground comfortably!!!!! No more dropping anxiety. The height and the top heaviness never ever disa[pears. I sat on the 1300 with the adaptive suspension....Forgot i was on a Gs. I agree 10000% that it is a game changer.
I have one and I’m in love with the thing. Your review is spot on, good work. My only problem, so far, was a loose headlight fastener.
Thanks Ian, this was a really good review.
Thank you for the objective evaluations you do on these bikes. After a lifetime of riding mostly off road, competition at a high level, I bought a '23 KTM 890 Adventure S. I thought a lighter bike would be a little easier for me in my dotage (I'll be 70 the end of this year). I'm used to riding big horsepower. I was looking at the GS 1250, but bought the KTM because it was lighter and I stumbled on a deal that I couldn't refuse. With this review of the GS 1300, I'm going to re-visit the BMW for the electronics, the ride and handling. It's more than adequate for the off-roading I'll do with it. All I ride with the KTM is 98% on-road. Thank you for helping put a dent (BIG DENT) in my checking account. When you buy something expensive that returns high value in experience, and is actually what you want, one never thinks about the cost after the initial pain of buying it. As I've always said; "You can always get what you don't want, for less."
Awesome vide! Great review. The best I have seen on the new GS. I remember when Porsche came out with that headlight on SUV's a couple years ago I noticed them. I don't anymore. Beautiful bike. Carl is the man! His channel is awesome. Best!
Loved the video! I turned in my beloved CBR 1000f Hurricane superbike a few years ago when the roads became just too dangerous in N. CA. I bout a 2017 KLR650. Love my KLR. I’ve never considered a BMW during my decades of riding. My buddy has 3 GS and I just never considered them. I saw the release of this bike and something intrigued me. I started watching the European reviews on it before its release in the US. You hit my algorithm and watched your vids on it. Loved this vid too! I’ve fallen in love with this bike lol. Considering pulling the trigger on a 2025 version so some of the bugs are worked out! Keeping pumping vids on it :^)
Great video!!! The GS sounds like an amazing machine.
What a great graphics kit! Nice touch.
It’s also funny what you mention about the bike looking great from every angle but the very front - I’m starting to think that’s a BMW thing 😂 I sometimes feel that of my R NineT, honestly.
I opted for the black cast wheels. Better look and easier to clean HOWEVER I can’t get them to look clean. Even after spending time getting the road grime off they don’t appear clean. Just a dull grey/black. Best longish term review I’ve seen so far. Well done Ian. Class.
Hello Ian,i always enjoy your opinion, i have a 23' GSA and come from a lifetime of Harley Davidson,got tired of cleaning after every ride and couldn't go down a dirt road for fear of messing it up,i love my bike,recently went on my first paid adventure ride,i learned a alot,it was 200 mi with 75 of that offroad with max 15 riders,the bike is heavy offroad if your a novice but im with you on the 1300,that front light just doesnt work for me,they are expensive but not much more than a nice Harley, im going keep my 23 and go adventuring,thanks for the superior content,keep up the good work you do and be safe
All valid points, I concur Ian. Price wise it’s up there, but so is everything else. I’ve owned a newer RT and honestly there’s something about these bikes, the quality of a BMW that made me feel good when riding them. Your bike is well optioned out and I’d do the same list to make it enjoyable indeed.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this sweet bike, I’d keep it for a while longer, with that undetermined length of time myself also. Well played 😎
Thx for another great review Ian...I like my R1200GSA but the new R1300GS is my dream bike but I'd wait another year until first year bugs worked out..
Straight up no bull shit review. Spend time with it. I'm all in for safety. It's good to live life. Telelever. I first rode it on my '93 1100RS and there has been nothing like it since. Firm believer in it. Total control of the chassis. Never doubt it. All others are inferior in performance. I don't give an F what others think. Good vid. It's a great bike. The RT will be but I really want to see the new RS. will it have Telelever? Only hope so.
Agree 100% on Hill Assist. Have it on my manual transmission car, too. On both it's seamless and I wouldn't want future manual transmission vehicles without this feature.
Really enjoyed your review. Yes indeed the GS is a swiss knife. Waiting for the GSA to decide which one to get.
High praise from Ian. These really are the S-Class Mercedes of motorbikes. I agree entirely with the wheel comments. Spokes are old school and a pain in the butt these days.
I just bought a 2024 BMW S1000 XR as a first «dip» into a more upright riding position after years on supersports and supernakeds. First BMW and wow, they are truly engineering marvels. Not quite ready to go all in on a GS, to become one of THEM just yet😅
Awesome bike. Personally could never justify that money for a bike but more power to you if you can. Considering current economic trends, we are probably living in the golden age of motorcycles
A great review and very thorough. I appreciate your realistic views.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Best review videos on the web!!!
Your summary is spot on.
good job love your vids
Excellent video!
I totally agree with your conclusion. The 1300 GS is my first BMW, and having previously owned a Tiger 1200 Rally Pro, I can confidently say the GS is the best bike I've ever had. While the Tiger is excellent, the GS surpasses it with its superior engine, chassis, and dampers, which significantly enhance road handling. The comprehensive electronic package, including ACC, is another major advantage. However, it's not without its flaws. It's expensive compared to the Tiger 900 and similar models, although the Multistrada V4 is also costly.
well said
Good honest review and insight into this bike. Would I buy one, probably not, but it is still nice to know more about this bike 😊
You know what my Man, BMW should give you a new 2025 model. I'm 100 percent certain that this Honest and Comprehensive Review has lead to people making the Decision to buy a new GS 1300.
That's his objective.
Get a free product and once he gets it, he'll do a bias review on it.
@@Solo_adv He seems like an Honest Man to me.
You realize he buys all his bikes yeah? Other products sure, they may be sent for free, it's the nature of the review business. Manufacturer and reviewer both benefit.
@@TheItalianZone yeah I realize he bought the bike. But he doesn't buy all his products he reviews. You do realize that free product more likely results in an all-around positive review. That's just the nature of the beast.
they'd never do that, but even if they offered, I'd have to say no. i prefer to buy my own bikes. accepting a free bike would ruin any credibility I have.
Love your honesty! I bought the Trophy version w/ enduro pro, dynamic, adaptive height, el. screen, forged wheels, no adaptive cruise, no luggage, enduro rear seat and luggage plate. I like the front of it, probably since the screen is lower when I have no adaptive cruise. With the standard rear seat, it looks like an NC750 from the side, and thats ugly. I noticed the same as Ryan F9 with hill hold, but I talked to the dealer and read the user manual, so controlling the revs helps. I am not a friend of the gearbox yet ;-) and I do not like the Metzeler knobblies on the tarmac/asphalt. But overall I love the bike and really like the way it looks. I was surpriced over the US prices, about the same as in Norway. Norwegian prices are usually a bit higher than US prices.
great review
Who's excited for the 1300 GSA on Friday?
me!
Very much so.
Keeping my fingers crossed they removed the ugly from the Adventure version.
Amen, brother! PREACH!
@@chamade166did you not see the instagram post? It's ugly
I found the Quickshifter to be absolute dog shit on the upshifts. Down shifts were fine. Upshifts damn near would launch me off the bike. Scared me shitless. Started just using the clutch.
Might be an issue, mine upshifts pretty darn smooth. That doesn't sound right at all!
Get it checked. Note what happens when and email to the suppling garage so they know you are serious
Thanks again for that awesome in-depth review of your likes and dislikes. I’m not one to buy this bike although I have my Africa twin, but it’s awesome to see what they put on the new bikes. The front light, think of it as the Scottish flag, I know it’s a German bike, but if you look at the Scottish flag it looks like the light. Thanks for the great video on the content. Looking forward to you next one thank you.
Great review , so well thought out.
Thank you kindly!
I completely agree with you about the hill start control. When I first got it, I wasn't used to it, and I would deactivate it before pulling away because it felt jerky. However, after some time, it seemed to adapt and work seamlessly. Perhaps it has some kind of adaptive logic that learns from how you ride.
Smooth airflow and no wobbles from 0 to topspeed are my top priorities.
Good morning.
First of all, congratulations for the serious and honest video review.
I own an R1300GS Trophy, with complete road setup, and I basically agree with all your observations on the pros and cons. However, regarding saddle comfort and aesthetics my opinion is more positive.
In general, I consider the 1300 improved compared to the 1250, let alone compared to my previous 1200 LC.
Naturally, before buying it I tried the competition several times (Ducati and KTM in particular), but I understood that the R1300GS is more suited to my motorcycling expectations and needs.
At the moment I am very satisfied.
Warm greetings from Italy.
Fantastic summary mate couldn’t have said it myself. This is the sort of review that needs to be out there in the market. I think I feel essentially the same as you about the headlight, I think they could’ve really done something way more beautiful with the radar. It’s pretty nice how Ducati hide their radar in between the headlights. Does beg the question for the new Euro standard about being only allowed one headlight which Ducati had avoided because their multistrand was released before the changes.
Thanks for that awesome in-depth review 👍👍
Glad it was helpful!
Absolutely the best review I’ve seen so far on the new GS. I’m waiting on the GSA and am seriously considering moving up from my GSA1200. The biggest concern you have given me is the ergonomics and seat comfort. At 6.2 and 220 I can’t afford less leg space and a harder seat. And at the price not wanting to upgrade the seat. I love all the new tech and strongly agree that the lack of control backlighting is ridiculous at this price. Jesus the Goldwing had it twenty years ago. We’ll see what this Friday brings and if the new GSA is what I hope for. Or I’ll be shopping for the last of the 1250’s.
I’ve got a later model 2018 1200 GSA with Tractive suspension.
I’ve not yet been convinced I want a more complicated; higher compression engine moto.
@@andrewpeter6128 I hear you. I have the Touratech suspension and it's perfect in addition with too many other farkels I'd hate to buy again, but that is the moto paradox. I'm getting on Ian's page to having 1 bike do 3 things which would have me selling my K1600GTL and just using the GSA as a Touring bike as well. I need to start thinning the heard in my garage.
I too should thin the heard. However, even though my GSA does everything better than my 3 Italian jobs, the latter always puts a smile on my face.
Yet, when a big trip arises and when I need to carry supplies and when the going gets tough; I commonly reach for the Bavarian.
@@andrewpeter6128 I totally agree on all your points. 😀
I had the possibility to buy a 1300 but instead I’ve choosen the latest 1250 model…One of the last 3000 unis of the Ultimate Edition! For me it was very easy to choose!!!
Regards from Portugal 🇵🇹
Nice job Ian
I have your same use case so I agree it is an improvement on the 1250 for my use, great video!
I always love your honest opinion. I'm going to go test ride the GS1300 soon and the GS900 but I think I will get the 1300.
Ian you are "The Voice of Reason". Great review.
You can get a brand new 1250 GSA cheaper than this 1300 GS. During the release of the 1300 GS, they were having heart attack in Berlin as the negative comments were overwhelmingly more than the positives. This was admitted by their own spokesperson at the Dealer Event. Looks like Berlin wanted to double down and the new GSA will have the same front design. If I ever go back to the GS route again, I will get the 1250 GSA instead of the 1300 GS. This may be the best time to own the true Classic 1250 GSA as BMW announced a $1,250 rebate for the month of July and Aug.
I decided between a 1300GS or a KTM 1290 SAS and ultimately got the KTM. The GS is great but I bought a new KTM 2023 Model from the Dealer in my spec version for less than 19k Euro. I got everything on it, teck pack, guards, fog-lights, all luggage cases etc. and was about 6-7k Euro cheaper than the BMW. Besides the KTM Engine puts the biggest smile on my Face.
But interesting video from you, looking forward to your upcoming videos with the GS. Greets !
I have a Gen 3 KTM 1290 SAS and would never trade it for any bike, including the 1300 GS, but there's no doubt the 1300 still a great bike, if priced exorbitantly high. Nice to know the sport touring tires were really good on this bike. I use my 1290 as just a big sport tourer with little to no offroad, so sport tourers are what I'm looking at putting once the factory tires are done, but will see.
At any rate, glad you are enjoying this bike. Have fun with it!!
Fantastic review Ian. Covered everything of interest!
As a 2022 Multistrada V4s owner you have me wanting to take a test ride of this one.
I understand the 1300 can’t hold a candle to the Multi in the power department but the overall package seems very appealing.
No spokes for me too, have never figured out everyone’s fascination for spoke wheels.
Look forward to your continuing series on the 1300.
Keep up the great work.
Cheers
Honestly the acceleration of the 1300 is close to the Multistrada. Maybe because of the additional torque. At high RPM and above 80 mph, I think the Multi will still pull away though... the V4 is simply amazing
@@BigRockMotoThis is what I felt too because the 1300 is ~25 bhp less but has ~25 nm more torque than the Multi.
Will take a test ride and update my perspective.
Thanks again.
Thank you. Best moto channel on YT and the web. Professional, detailed, straight forward. I rarely if ever pay YT folk. I do for this man. Please keep up the work.
Great video, thank you for your work.
I think the bike looks good. For me it looks like something from the future, some other bikes look like normal bikes with bolted on features and LED’s.
I completely agree on the hill start assist, though I have an R1250RS. Also, I think it was dumb to move the on/off switch from the center. If they left it where it was, they could have used that position on the right for a more useful button.
Good, comprehensive review as always and it is clear that you love the bike however, it seems you have watched so many negative videos that you felt it was necessary to defend the bike without thinking that other peoples experience have been completely different to yours. We can all be unlucky enough to end up buying a 🍋 through our buying history or even just have a bad experience on a test ride that puts us off buying a specific vehicle. We also have different opinions and we all need to keep that in mind. I say all that to say this, there is no need for you to defend any type of vehicle because people with common sense will already know that the vehicle is new and it may have recalls and besides, we all don't like the same thing.
You seemed to get quite frustrated and almost angry about it. It's just a bike not, a family member on life support, so just chill out and let the negativity fade into the breeze.
Keep up the good work and God bless. 👍🏿
I totally agree with the design. I can’t talk about anything else as I have never even sat on it, but the design could have been amazing, if only they didn’t make the weirdest headlight.
I think this is the first time I have watched such a long video from start to finish.
My dealer didn’t recommend the adaptive hight function.
I am going from a Triumph Tiger 800, nice bike but terrible sound and terrible brakes. I took a ride on the 1300 and loved it.
As for the design, i like it, even the headlight has grown on me.
Still waiting for delivery.
As usual a great job on this video and of course all of your others.
I recently purchased my own R1300GS trophy, and it is fantastic. It's all I thought it would be and more.
No way I'd go back to any other bike on the market.
One question I have is how you rigged your Mosko Moto tank bag? I'm having a hard time figuring out how to route the front harness so that it does not impact wires, shock, etc.
If you can reply with your routing I would appreciate it.
As I’m getting older I moved to a Multi V2S after three GSs, if I bought another GS I would have the adaptive height feature as with a 29” inseam it would give me so much confidence at low speeds etc. I like the new look but I think the dash is over complicated, I’d rather use a button anytime. As usual a great real world review Ian, I’m certainly testing one next time but as a road rider I still prefer the Multi V4S. Luggage I’d choose SW-Motech, I’m a big fan of all their gear…
PS. Agree with you re the front end but you can’t see it when you’re riding, regarding the price yes it’s too high but here in the UK it seems to be reducing for low mileage ex demo models etc.
Thanks for the excellent review Ian. And the full beard looks good.
Thank you kindly!
Hi Ian, thank you very much for all your informative reviews, I'm a big fan of your work. What is your opinion on the differences between the Ducati V4 Rally and the 1300 GS? In particular the wind experience on both motorcycles. Greetings from the Netherlands.
Hill start can be a trap that cost me a tip over once (1250GS): When you are stopped in Neutral with the brake "locked" on an incline, with the engine running, for example while trying to talk to someone, and then decide to turn off the engine because it's too loud: The bike rolls away from under you because the brake releases then. Why couldn't they keep the brake on as long as the ignition is on? Also, mine randomly releases the hill-assist standing on a mild hill, e.g. at a light, but only sometimes. Anyone else has seen this too?
And since I am at it: My "Trip Computer" that zeroes itself every morning automatically, sometimes just starts counting form 0.6 miles (1 km?) rather than from zero. SW glitch?
I don't understand this overwhelming group-think like demand or call to arms for backlit switch gear in recent months. Few riders ride in the dark and you should learn your bike and where certain buttons are as it will become intuitive to a point where you don't need to look. My only beef with the 1300 is the headlight and the price. As a spoked wheel lover for this class of bike I am starting to come around on the forged enduro wheels, I am really starting to like the look. I'll likely be keeping my 1250 GSA until the facelift of the 1300 3-5 years down the road. Very much looking forward to the unveiling of the 1300 GSA later this week.