@@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 Well, yes, I suppose he is inconsistent at times and still seems to be figuring things out theologically. (But then, so am I!) It does seem to be the case that Sir Anthony Buzzard has rejected the Trinity, but seeks to maintain the Christian religion more or less intact. I don't think it's possible, to my mind, if the Christian Bible has been messed-up so badly that there's little left that can be considered authentic or reliable (just pieces here and pieces there). At the end of the day, I thought it was a great discussion between two intelligent and respectful gentlemen! As it should be.
33:11 - the 'gotcha!' moment. But all due respect to Sir Anthony Buzzard who demonstrated humility with answering the question and did not resort to Bible gymnastics. Very refreshing to see someone who is honest enough to admit when they don't have the answer rather than to improvise incessantly; A lot of Christians could learn a thing or two from him. May Allah guide him.
Masyaallah Love Sir Anthony Buzzard, Feel Like Paul meet a long lost Older Brother who he admires, watch from the beginning without skipping just from how enjoyable the conversation is, Hope you can talk with him again in the Future.
Please remember that no one has to profess their belief for the benefit of others. Allah knows the truth always and people need for their own benefit to remember to not be judgemental Even if it is coming from a concerned heart. One does not have to profess a religion for Allah to know who is a follower
This man is such a delight .... With all title he is such a humble man and a person who is seeks the day seeking new knowledge and experience in life .. and not a person who shy away if he not sure of the answer ... hopefully have another chat with this man again
Unofficially Paul said😅! And at the same time he made it officially 😀 What ever it is! It's between you and Almighty Allah subhanehu we teala May Allah bless you Mr Paul, we all learning a lot from you
Imho, Sir Anthony represents the best in "Biblical Unitarianism". He does pose questions that are very difficult to adequately answer from any mainstream Trinitarian perspective. It's always a pleasure to hear him and to watch how he handles standard christological questions in debates. Thanks for this video.
Very enjoyable and informative discussion. I'm glad you slightly challenged re the forgiving of sins and the food laws. He is a very likeable man and exudes sincerity. Great work Paul.
Sir Paul even you say you are not "officially" a Muslim still you are my Muslim brother, because you ankowledge that God is one and accept all the prophets who been send by God the almighty. That's true Islam brother (whether practicing or not) still you have all the aspect of a Muslim. May God grant you and your beloved ones happiness and a place in His kingdom. Greetings from a Muslim.
But Imaan consist of 2 sides, 1. You need to believe it fully in heart without any doubts. 2. You need to verbally testify or a that you are a muslim. 😥😥
Sir Buzzard said," we not say Jesus Is God but God in messianic sense ! If so then why people Christians forgotton about the father completely? We need to be aware of what saying regarding God. God wants us to be known , recognised and worshipped the way he wants and not they way we think about him that's why he sent all prophets and messegers. Without them we would never know anything about him.
@@AnalyseThat being baptized is basically your display of dying to your sins and following Christ. It's a part of being "born again" or "born from above". "This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ." "Or do YOU not know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? Therefore we were buried with him through our baptism into his death, in order that, just as Christ was raised up from the dead through the glory of the Father, we also should likewise walk in a newness of life. For if we have become united with him in the likeness of his death, we shall certainly also be [united with him in the likeness] of his resurrection; because we know that our old personality was impaled with [him], that our sinful body might be made inactive, that we should no longer go on being slaves to sin. For he who has died has been acquitted from [his] sin. 8 Moreover, if we have died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him. For we know that Christ, now that he has been raised up from the dead, dies no more; death is master over him no more" Also "For the wages sin pays is death, but the gift God gives is everlasting life by Christ Jesus our Lord."
@@Thedisciplemike You must be in some kind of a weird dream for none of what you believe was preached by Jesus. A touch of reality might help: Actually, you are NOT yet dead nor buried - you'll need immerse yourself in water for a while longer to achieve that! Neither are you acquitted of your sins which you accumulate everyday - surely you know that yourself. As for your resurrection, I don't know when you imagine that to be. The fanciful story of parousia (rising in glory with Christ) was concocted by Paul, who promised it would happen in his lifetime - but it's not happened for 2000 years! Sorry for the disappointment but Jesus is not coming back - you were duped by a dodgy salesman called Paul.
@@AnalyseThat If you deny Paul, then you have to deny the whole Bible, and even Jesus our Lord. That puts you in a strange situation if you call yourself a Christian. You can say Paul lied or whatever all you want if you don't call yourself a Christian (however, your argument is pretty weak if you don't have anything to back your argument with). And remember, this isn't Paul's doctrine, but Christ's; Matthew 28:19, John 3:3. It is true that when we die our sins are acquitted. But if we are to enter into the Kingdom, ruling with Christ as Kings and Priests, gaining immortality, as taught by Jesus, Peter, Paul, Luke, John, and James, then we must be born again, or born from above, i.e, die to our life of sin, our life of our own will and live in God's will, having been called by Him to be His Sons and Daughters. This is the whole message of the NT, the "Good News", the Gospel taught by Christ. It doesn't mean those not called won't be resurrected. They just won't be a part of that first resurrection to immortality and rulers of God's Kingdom
I very much enjoyed listening to this discussion. Some interesting points were touched upon in regard to John the baptist and Paul. Looking forward to more like this.
"La Iqra Fideen" There's no compulsion in religion as stated in the Holy Quran. And Hidhaya comes from God when the time is right for an individual. To that end let's respect peoples doubts until such time the penny drops for them. May Allah swa guide us all.... it was an interesting watch!!
Thank you Paul for this amazing discussion I am addicted to your channel can’t seem to get enough of it your intellect is inspiring I really don’t care what religion you follow you are a man of faith may God bless you and continue to open paths for you so you can shed light on people who have the thirst for this knowledge keep it up it is much needed
Sir Anthony actually replied to an email I sent regarding a debate he was in some years ago. Truly a scholar and a gentleman- just as you are 🙂. May we all be guided closer to the Truth.
Very suprised to hear SAB say that Paul the Apostle (who is not a Prophet of God) thinks that John the Baptist's (who is a Prophet of God) ministry is invalid and re-baptises people. Indeed that would be considered Kufr /blaspheme! :O
What a pleasure hearing Sir Anthony again, he is a gold mine of information, i hope he will be rewarded for his sincerity and you too Sir, please bring him again.
Due to my English shortage I didn't understand all of it but it seems a wise and clear dusscution, I love Allah/God what ever language u use to call and worship him doesn't matter at the end of the day He the Creator of every thing shubganahu wataala
Watch out, there are plenty of self styled experts who would disagree. And if you disagree they are ultra quick to respond to comments. Personally I think your correct. Yes there are many Christians who are Unitarian , those mayo believe there is no other God but God or in Arabic Allah. If it was good enough for Jesus to call God Alaha then I have no problem with saying ashahoo an. La il Shah IL Allah.
Just to clear up Paul's question about the ministry of John somehow undermined by the cross. The Baptist did say "After me will come One more powerful than I, the straps of whose sandals I am not worthy to stoop down and untie. I baptize you with water, but He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit." Mar 1.7-8. In other words, the Baptist himself recognized that he was sent/commissioned to "prepare the way for the Lord," that is the lord Messiah. carlos@thehumanjesus.org
I pray that Allah swt through his holy spirit brings rise to Christianity (socinianism) and may he make it the strongest faith in the world and preserve it till the day of resurrection
John the Baptist is a prophet of God and is undoubtedly of higher status than any of the direct disciples of Jesus, let alone paul of tarsus who has never met Jesus , to say that John’s baptism is inferior to Paul’s is nonsense.one would expect the holy sprit to support john’s baptism ( who is acknowledged by Jesus himself ) rather than supporting Paul’s . Also on a different subject that you were discussing,only Jesus can abolish or change some of the teachings of the law of the Torah , because this is a huge thing , to say Paul has also the right to change that law is a big stretch, the authority to change Prophet Moses laws is not light Nevertheless we have enjoyed that zoom session, thank you for sharing this with us. Also it’s my first time hearing that fulfilling something is to do its opposite 😅😂
A thoroughly respectful and thought provoking theological discussion between two gentlemen seeking the truth.The Biblical Unitarian belief system that Sir Anthony Buzzard discusses, offers a more accurate understanding of what early century Christians believed before the sad events of the fourth century ecumenical councils - that Jesus is the son of God, the chosen Messiah. At no point did Jesus ever claim to be God, or in any way equal to God. He was a faithful servant of God, even up to the point of death on the cross. Jesus repeatedly taught and affirmed God's singularity "Hear, O Israel: the LORD is our God, the LORD is one" (Deuteronomy 6:4). This verse encapsulates the monotheistic essence of Judaism, as well as that of early century Christianity. Through the centuries there have always existed Unitarian Christians who have rejected the Trinity, many of whom have been terribly persecuted by so-called Christians (Trinitarians) for their faith.
@@teachmetheway7081 Lol. No trust needed in islam, the Quran challenges you to disprove it. “And if you all are in doubt about what I have revealed to My servant, bring a single chapter like it, and call your witnesses besides God if you are truthful.” (Quran 2:23) The Quran cannot be imitated... its just impossible...
@@craigthebrute2409 The Quran has been disproved already!!! Where are the palm branches, and stones that it was written on. Think sir. If as you say this writing is so heavenly and divine why weren't they as important then? Why didn't your muslim forefathers not save the "palm branches and stones on which the quran was written"? If the very words of God's commands on stone tablets were kept in the ark of the covenant why didn't your islamic 'moses and or joshua' have them saved? that alone should hint to you that something is wrong!!!
@@teachmetheway7081 😂😂😂 the Quran has always been memorised... you could throw every paper Quran in the ocean tomorrow & it still wouldn’t be lost... this makes christians FURIOUS 😂😂😂 “And We have certainly made the Qur'an easy for remembrance, so is there any who will remember?” (The Noble Quran 54:17)
He already is I pray that Allah swt through his holy spirit brings rise to Christianity (socinianism) and may he make it the strongest faith in the world and preserve it till the day of resurrection
Hey Paul why are you not 'officially' a Muslim? Is there such a position in front of Allah? Considering you're very analytical and seem intellectual and sincere, I'm hoping you will pronounce the Shahada soon. You know our lives can end anytime. I wish you long life and InshaAllah hoping to hear good news soon. may Allah SWT guide us all in the true path.
I actually thought you were already a muslim for a long time. I did remember an older video with Abdullah al Andalusi where he mentioned you both as reverts and friends?
those that are doubtful and full of flaws are discussed and discussed and used as guidelines, while those that are clear and certain are without a doubt ignored. Even though life is so long in a count, but not for a second gives understanding and it is too late to realize it. When the time comes there are only regrets.
IT IS GOOD TO HAVE WITH CHRISTAINS AND JEWS MORE ZOOM DISCUSSION WABOUT THE TRUTH AND THE ONLY TRUE FAITH. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE THAT ALL FAITHS ARE CORRECTEDLY FOLLOWABLE AT THIS TIME
Irony is very talented Christian scholars do understand the Gospels ( 4x Books from new Testament) authenticity and its texts. Its humen nature & in ours DNA we all accept the TRUTH regardless which way it took us. Good intellect discussion.
I just came across your wonderful channel and successively become addicted to your videos. Can I ask your opinion on pantheism? It has striking similarity to the Sufis mysticism as it shares the notions of the entirety of the real being (truth) attributed to one God and the very fact that God cannot be a being without “absolute” encompassing presence and the universe or shall we say in all the multiverses, if any, should essentially be a part of this supereme being to make that being a God! If we accept this notion ( Ibn Arabi being the first advocate of it is Islamic Sufism) then I wouldn’t nag too much about the Christian trinity or essentially any delusional misinterpretation one may make!
Dear Paul (if I may), Did I understand you correctly that you said you are a Muslim, but not 'officially'? If so, can I ask if you have met many others in the same situation as yourself i.e. people who basically believe in Islam, but have not adopted, as their official identity, the title of "Muslim"? I do not mean to put any pressure on you at all concerning this; I am just *very* curious about how many people out there are as convinced about the truth of Islam as you are, and yet have not taken on the identity "Muslim" in any official way.
Sir Anthony Farquhar Buzzard, 3rd Baronet, ARCM, is a biblical scholar, unitarian Christian theologian, author and professor on the faculty of Atlanta Bible College.
I pray that Allah swt blesses Christianity (socinianism) with thousands of more people like him and may Allah swt through his holy spirit use people like him to restore Christianity and may he make it flourish till the day of resurrection
Assalamualaikum brother Paul. thank you for your precious videos.I think in my very humble point of view that among the reasons a lot of christians revert to Islam is that the gospel or the bible is proved to be written by different people where in a lot of passages or verses one contradicts the other and thus creating this sort of complications to the receiver. The revelation of the Quran wich is the words of God directly to his prophet Muhammad peace be upon him seems logic to correct all the chaos and corruption that writers of the gospel created. I think when God sent his prophets peace be upon them all to show mankind throughout history the truth he subhanah sent some of his messengers carrying books like Torah Gospel Quran and other books. so what was the inner intention of those who replaced words by others to fit and match and etc... we're they better than God himself in chosing the right words!
Matthew 15:11 "What goes into someone’s mouth does not defile them, but what comes out of their mouth, that is what defiles them.” Again, Jesus directs people to see that, it is our internal thoughts and attitudes towards our neighbours and our creator God are what truly matters.
the problem is that death dont wait, why not accepting islam to be an official muslim and have paradise for guaranteed, Thats better, i knew some people who are never sure about islam and stay in between for 3 or 4 years. But really, i understand the right he has to choose wisely, because salvation is on the line, but just don't abuse that right😄
Regarding the baptism of John the Baptist in Acts 19, there is no indication that Paul thought these individuals sins had not been adequately forgiven through the baptism of John. The text also indicates that these men may not even have known of the message /ministy of Jesus? I do not think it is unfair to assume assume that Paul shared the gospel message with these men thus allowing them to be baptised into the name of Jesus, thereby allowing them to recieve the gift of the Holy Spirit when Paul laid his hands on them. Again, there is no reference as to the adequacy or otherwise concerning the forgiveness of sins. This passage should be read in light of a similar occurance concerning re-baptism in Acts 8. Again here, the purpose of re-baptism has nothing, according to the text, to do with the forgiveness of sins but rather with the infilling of the holy spirit. This is particulary acute here, as the passage says they were already baptised into the name of Jesus. But despite already being baptised into the name of Jesus they had not received the infilling of the Holy Spirit whihc then occured through the laying on of hands.
Paul never met Jesus, he tortured Christians, why wouldn't Jesus choose one of his diciples who he lived with to preach law doesn't apply to them. Why Paul - what relationship did he have to change the whole message of Jesus.
Sir Anthony brought up Acts 19; but in Acts 19, the apostle Paul acknowledges that John's baptism was a baptism of repentance; he doesn't challenge the efficacy of that baptism for repentance, but thinks that receiving the Holy Spirit goes beyond what John's baptism can offer. So I think this does not challenge what Paul Williams was saying.
@@BloggingTheology - I pray that Allah swt through his holy spirit brings rise to Christianity (socinianism) and may he make it the strongest faith in the world and preserve it till the day of resurrection
We came to life from the darkness of the womb. The Creator made us think. Animals are lust without a mind. Angels have neither desire nor mind. We are mind and lust.
Hello mr Paul, my name is Mohammed and I'm a muslim from egypt, I have had a past of agnosticism but then became a muslim "again, as I was born to a Muslim family", I spent a year comparing and discussing religon, anyway, I would love to have a chat with you about modern teenagers and religion, it would be lovely to have a chat with you.
Dear sir, now that I follow your blog closely, I would really appreciate if you could clarify what it means to accept islam “unofficially”. Very sincere curiosity question, nothing more. This would help me understand your starting point when you address issues, which I have and am sure will continue to follow with joy. Warm regards.
He is not a revert but someone who leans towards it and sympathizes/shares the basic Islamic view, but not without the things he is yet to work out before deciding if he really believes it or not. Aka still searching but Islam-leaning
Paul, i steel alwayse loving you, please, i have never read the bible, could you tell me if there is in the bible, where and when did jesus say i am god worship me, thank you.
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Jesus never said that he is God that's a fact (In the Bible also no mentioning about Jesus as GOD or a god). It's pure a human fabrication ( The Council of Nicaea established this "biggest scam all time"). May God help our Christian brothers and sisters to find the way back to The One and Only God.
I admire Sir Anthony's passion for the truth
Sir Anthony is an example of a Christian who's genuinely seeking the truth and not just following the crowd like most.
I beg to differ. And are you seeking the truth and not just following the crowd????
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... and what will he be then when death approaches ?
Sir Anthony Buzzard is a unitarian Christian, I suppose. He does not believe in the Trinity.
@@zainiabdullah621 he doesn't associate partners with Allah , so may in his Unitarian state , he will be forgiven
I adore Sir Anthony Buzzard's radiant personality, enthusiasm and energy!
but he is so inconsistent, with Jesus & paul...
@@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 Well, yes, I suppose he is inconsistent at times and still seems to be figuring things out theologically. (But then, so am I!) It does seem to be the case that Sir Anthony Buzzard has rejected the Trinity, but seeks to maintain the Christian religion more or less intact. I don't think it's possible, to my mind, if the Christian Bible has been messed-up so badly that there's little left that can be considered authentic or reliable (just pieces here and pieces there).
At the end of the day, I thought it was a great discussion between two intelligent and respectful gentlemen! As it should be.
33:11 - the 'gotcha!' moment. But all due respect to Sir Anthony Buzzard who demonstrated humility with answering the question and did not resort to Bible gymnastics. Very refreshing to see someone who is honest enough to admit when they don't have the answer rather than to improvise incessantly; A lot of Christians could learn a thing or two from him. May Allah guide him.
@@charlievaughan1308 like what Charlie?
@@charlievaughan1308 i don't disagree, im all for that on both sides of faiths
You are truly an eye open sir Paul! Thank you for all the information so far !
Sir Anthony Bizzard and Adnan Rashid also had a peace conversation like this, may Allah give him hidayah
He already has hidayah and I pray that Allah swt blesses Christianity (socinianism) with thousands if people like him
seems like Anthony is willing to talk with people
so why dont we invite him to more talks
Mashallah!!! Thoroughly enjoyed every minute of the exchanges. So much of energy and enthusiasm. Loved your guest. May God Bless you’ll. 🤩 👏 👏 👏
That was fantastic, Paul. Sir Anthony’s passion and enthusiasm are indeed wonderful. Thank you for sharing this. More please 🙂
Masyaallah Love Sir Anthony Buzzard, Feel Like Paul meet a long lost Older Brother who he admires, watch from the beginning without skipping just from how enjoyable the conversation is, Hope you can talk with him again in the Future.
I.am shocked that william is not a Muslim. May Allah guide him to the faith that he cherished so much. Aameen thumma Aameen thumma Aameen.
Ameen
Ameen
May Allah guide them both
Paul is a Muslim I think. He said “I’m not officially a Muslim”. He didn’t say: I am not a muslim.
Please remember that no one has to profess their belief for the benefit of others. Allah knows the truth always and people need for their own benefit to remember to not be judgemental Even if it is coming from a concerned heart.
One does not have to profess a religion for Allah to know who is a follower
This man is such a delight .... With all title he is such a humble man and a person who is seeks the day seeking new knowledge and experience in life .. and not a person who shy away if he not sure of the answer ... hopefully have another chat with this man again
Sir Anthony Buzzard is very good and gentle person . May ALLAH Swt show Mercy on us and on him .
Very interesting discussion Paul. Thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it
Unofficially Paul said😅! And at the same time he made it officially 😀
What ever it is! It's between you and Almighty Allah subhanehu we teala
May Allah bless you Mr Paul, we all learning a lot from you
I appreciate your valuable information
Imho, Sir Anthony represents the best in "Biblical Unitarianism". He does pose questions that are very difficult to adequately answer from any mainstream Trinitarian perspective. It's always a pleasure to hear him and to watch how he handles standard christological questions in debates. Thanks for this video.
Very enjoyable and informative discussion. I'm glad you slightly challenged re the forgiving of sins and the food laws. He is a very likeable man and exudes sincerity. Great work Paul.
Thank you. Will be a great watch
Sir Paul even you say you are not "officially" a Muslim still you are my Muslim brother, because you ankowledge that God is one and accept all the prophets who been send by God the almighty. That's true Islam brother (whether practicing or not) still you have all the aspect of a Muslim. May God grant you and your beloved ones happiness and a place in His kingdom. Greetings from a Muslim.
thanks
But Imaan consist of 2 sides,
1. You need to believe it fully in heart without any doubts.
2. You need to verbally testify or a that you are a muslim.
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Paul what a nice topic to discuss 🖤
Much love to Sir Anthony Buzzard. Such a lovely man.
I pray that Allah swt blesses Christianity (socinianism) with thousands of people like him
Really love to watch these two english gentlemen converse in theology. Jazakallah khayr br. Paul W.
Sir Buzzard said," we not say Jesus Is God but God in messianic sense !
If so then why people Christians forgotton about the father completely?
We need to be aware of what saying regarding God. God wants us to be known , recognised and worshipped the way he wants and not they way we think about him that's why he sent all prophets and messegers.
Without them we would never know anything about him.
What a cracking challenge 👏 'If baptism achieves forgiveness of sins what's the point of Jesus death on the cross?'
We are baptized into Christ, that's why. We aren't baptized separately
I'm not sure what that means for you.
@@AnalyseThat being baptized is basically your display of dying to your sins and following Christ. It's a part of being "born again" or "born from above".
"This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ."
"Or do YOU not know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? Therefore we were buried with him through our baptism into his death, in order that, just as Christ was raised up from the dead through the glory of the Father, we also should likewise walk in a newness of life. For if we have become united with him in the likeness of his death, we shall certainly also be [united with him in the likeness] of his resurrection; because we know that our old personality was impaled with [him], that our sinful body might be made inactive, that we should no longer go on being slaves to sin. For he who has died has been acquitted from [his] sin. 8 Moreover, if we have died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him. For we know that Christ, now that he has been raised up from the dead, dies no more; death is master over him no more"
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"For the wages sin pays is death, but the gift God gives is everlasting life by Christ Jesus our Lord."
@@Thedisciplemike You must be in some kind of a weird dream for none of what you believe was preached by Jesus. A touch of reality might help: Actually, you are NOT yet dead nor buried - you'll need immerse yourself in water for a while longer to achieve that! Neither are you acquitted of your sins which you accumulate everyday - surely you know that yourself. As for your resurrection, I don't know when you imagine that to be. The fanciful story of parousia (rising in glory with Christ) was concocted by Paul, who promised it would happen in his lifetime - but it's not happened for 2000 years! Sorry for the disappointment but Jesus is not coming back - you were duped by a dodgy salesman called Paul.
@@AnalyseThat If you deny Paul, then you have to deny the whole Bible, and even Jesus our Lord. That puts you in a strange situation if you call yourself a Christian. You can say Paul lied or whatever all you want if you don't call yourself a Christian (however, your argument is pretty weak if you don't have anything to back your argument with). And remember, this isn't Paul's doctrine, but Christ's; Matthew 28:19, John 3:3.
It is true that when we die our sins are acquitted. But if we are to enter into the Kingdom, ruling with Christ as Kings and Priests, gaining immortality, as taught by Jesus, Peter, Paul, Luke, John, and James, then we must be born again, or born from above, i.e, die to our life of sin, our life of our own will and live in God's will, having been called by Him to be His Sons and Daughters. This is the whole message of the NT, the "Good News", the Gospel taught by Christ. It doesn't mean those not called won't be resurrected. They just won't be a part of that first resurrection to immortality and rulers of God's Kingdom
It's a very nice conversation. You both need to make more conversation. May Allah bless you for your journey.
I very much enjoyed listening to this discussion. Some interesting points were touched upon in regard to John the baptist and Paul. Looking forward to more like this.
Woah, Really enjoyed this talk😅
"La Iqra Fideen" There's no compulsion in religion as stated in the Holy Quran. And Hidhaya comes from God when the time is right for an individual. To that end let's respect peoples doubts until such time the penny drops for them. May Allah swa guide us all.... it was an interesting watch!!
You are right, Brother. Bro. Paul is on his intellectual searching journey. of Truth. Hope Allah help him to find His Aim..
Nice conversation with an energetic delightful man.
Thank you Paul for this amazing discussion I am addicted to your channel can’t seem to get enough of it your intellect is inspiring I really don’t care what religion you follow you are a man of faith may God bless you and continue to open paths for you so you can shed light on people who have the thirst for this knowledge keep it up it is much needed
That was so interesting and informative
Sir Anthony actually replied to an email I sent regarding a debate he was in some years ago. Truly a scholar and a gentleman- just as you are 🙂.
May we all be guided closer to the Truth.
nice discussion. looking forward to other such interviews/conversations
Very suprised to hear SAB say that Paul the Apostle (who is not a Prophet of God) thinks that John the Baptist's (who is a Prophet of God) ministry is invalid and re-baptises people. Indeed that would be considered Kufr /blaspheme! :O
Great work, please create one video on "origin of Christmas", thanks
There is English subtitle now. Thank you.
What a pleasure hearing Sir Anthony again, he is a gold mine of information, i hope he will be rewarded for his sincerity and you too Sir, please bring him again.
Our common ground is, say God is 1.
Absolutely brilliant stuff!
Due to my English shortage I didn't understand all of it but it seems a wise and clear dusscution,
I love Allah/God what ever language u use to call and worship him doesn't matter at the end of the day He the Creator of every thing shubganahu wataala
We love you both Sir...
Love this.
New definition of fulfilling!
I’m in no way an expert, but Christianity has nothing to do with Jesus PBUH! It owes everything to its founder “Paul”!!
@You Say Not really
Watch out, there are plenty of self styled experts who would disagree.
And if you disagree they are ultra quick to respond to comments.
Personally I think your correct.
Yes there are many Christians who are Unitarian , those mayo believe there is no other God but God or in Arabic Allah.
If it was good enough for Jesus to call God Alaha then I have no problem with saying ashahoo an. La il Shah IL Allah.
Paul should've called it Paulinity after his own name.
It is more like old wine (Roman paganism) in a new bottle (Paulianity).
I am a muslim and I disagree
Just to clear up Paul's question about the ministry of John somehow undermined by the cross. The Baptist did say "After me will come One more powerful than I, the straps of whose sandals I am not worthy to stoop down and untie. I baptize you with water, but He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit." Mar 1.7-8.
In other words, the Baptist himself recognized that he was sent/commissioned to "prepare the way for the Lord," that is the lord Messiah.
carlos@thehumanjesus.org
I pray that Allah swt through his holy spirit brings rise to Christianity (socinianism) and may he make it the strongest faith in the world and preserve it till the day of resurrection
لقاء هادى و محترم
نرجو لقاء اخر 💜
At the beginning I thought he will be like Ann Widdecombe 😅 but he was quite different
Please Do an interview with Hamza from EFDawah , he knows a lot about the bible and it would be interesting to watch you two talk about this
John the Baptist is a prophet of God and is undoubtedly of higher status than any of the direct disciples of Jesus, let alone paul of tarsus who has never met Jesus , to say that John’s baptism is inferior to Paul’s is nonsense.one would expect the holy sprit to support john’s baptism ( who is acknowledged by Jesus himself ) rather than supporting Paul’s .
Also on a different subject that you were discussing,only Jesus can abolish or change some of the teachings of the law of the Torah , because this is a huge thing , to say Paul has also the right to change that law is a big stretch, the authority to change Prophet Moses laws is not light
Nevertheless we have enjoyed that zoom session, thank you for sharing this with us.
Also it’s my first time hearing that fulfilling something is to do its opposite 😅😂
A thoroughly respectful and thought provoking theological discussion between two gentlemen seeking the truth.The Biblical Unitarian belief system that Sir Anthony Buzzard discusses, offers a more accurate understanding of what early century Christians believed before the sad events of the fourth century ecumenical councils - that Jesus is the son of God, the chosen Messiah. At no point did Jesus ever claim to be God, or in any way equal to God. He was a faithful servant of God, even up to the point of death on the cross. Jesus repeatedly taught and affirmed God's singularity "Hear, O Israel: the LORD is our God, the LORD is one" (Deuteronomy 6:4). This verse encapsulates the monotheistic essence of Judaism, as well as that of early century Christianity. Through the centuries there have always existed Unitarian Christians who have rejected the Trinity, many of whom have been terribly persecuted by so-called Christians (Trinitarians) for their faith.
Excellent
That is amazing paul you could get even more people over
Very nice person Sir Buzzard.
He rather trusts the words of Paul of Tarsus too much.
And you trust the words of Muhammad too much as well.
@@teachmetheway7081 Lol. No trust needed in islam, the Quran challenges you to disprove it.
“And if you all are in doubt about what I have revealed to My servant, bring a single chapter like it, and call your witnesses besides God if you are truthful.” (Quran 2:23)
The Quran cannot be imitated... its just impossible...
@@craigthebrute2409 The Quran has been disproved already!!!
Where are the palm branches, and stones that it was written on.
Think sir. If as you say this writing is so heavenly and divine why weren't they as important then?
Why didn't your muslim forefathers not save the "palm branches and stones on which the quran was written"?
If the very words of God's commands on stone tablets were kept in the ark of the covenant why didn't your islamic 'moses and or joshua' have them saved?
that alone should hint to you that something is wrong!!!
@@teachmetheway7081 😂😂😂 the Quran has always been memorised... you could throw every paper Quran in the ocean tomorrow & it still wouldn’t be lost... this makes christians FURIOUS 😂😂😂
“And We have certainly made the Qur'an easy for remembrance, so is there any who will remember?” (The Noble Quran 54:17)
@@craigthebrute2409 not always. your hadith history clearly says that it was on palm leaves and stones AND SOME IN MEMORIES
Sir Anthony is a wise man.
May Allah guide him.
He already is I pray that Allah swt through his holy spirit brings rise to Christianity (socinianism) and may he make it the strongest faith in the world and preserve it till the day of resurrection
@@faithfultheology - If you're ever curious to what I believe about Jesus research the ismaili muslim perspective on jesus because I'm an ismaili
Sir do a live with Rabbi Tovia Singer
Nice conferance, even thow most of the quetions were not answered, seemed to be a turn arround, but hej there is no realy explination for it..
Hey Paul why are you not 'officially' a Muslim? Is there such a position in front of Allah? Considering you're very analytical and seem intellectual and sincere, I'm hoping you will pronounce the Shahada soon. You know our lives can end anytime. I wish you long life and InshaAllah hoping to hear good news soon. may Allah SWT guide us all in the true path.
I actually thought you were already a muslim for a long time. I did remember an older video with Abdullah al Andalusi where he mentioned you both as reverts and friends?
He said not officially...
ASLAMWLKUM Brother PAUL . you have the lowest mic volume every time ?
Please turn it up a bit . will be appreciated MUCH . JazakAllah Khair ..
those that are doubtful and full of flaws are discussed and discussed and used as guidelines, while those that are clear and certain are without a doubt ignored. Even though life is so long in a count, but not for a second gives understanding and it is too late to realize it. When the time comes there are only regrets.
Denying the existence of the Devil is Kufur
i am atheist but i love carlos and Sir Anthony Buzzard
Sir do a meeting with Bart Ehrman
intresting Topic.....
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Brilliant Paul *******
IT IS GOOD TO HAVE WITH CHRISTAINS AND JEWS MORE ZOOM DISCUSSION WABOUT THE TRUTH AND THE ONLY TRUE FAITH. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE THAT ALL FAITHS ARE CORRECTEDLY FOLLOWABLE AT THIS TIME
Irony is very talented Christian scholars do understand the Gospels ( 4x Books from new Testament) authenticity and
its texts. Its humen nature & in ours DNA we all accept the TRUTH regardless which way it took us.
Good intellect discussion.
I just came across your wonderful channel and successively become addicted to your videos. Can I ask your opinion on pantheism? It has striking similarity to the Sufis mysticism as it shares the notions of the entirety of the real being (truth) attributed to one God and the very fact that God cannot be a being without “absolute” encompassing presence and the universe or shall we say in all the multiverses, if any, should essentially be a part of this supereme being to make that being a God! If we accept this notion ( Ibn Arabi being the first advocate of it is Islamic Sufism) then I wouldn’t nag too much about the Christian trinity or essentially any delusional misinterpretation one may make!
Dear Paul (if I may),
Did I understand you correctly that you said you are a Muslim, but not 'officially'? If so, can I ask if you have met many others in the same situation as yourself i.e. people who basically believe in Islam, but have not adopted, as their official identity, the title of "Muslim"?
I do not mean to put any pressure on you at all concerning this; I am just *very* curious about how many people out there are as convinced about the truth of Islam as you are, and yet have not taken on the identity "Muslim" in any official way.
Anthony Buzzard is delightful. :D
Sir Anthony Farquhar Buzzard, 3rd Baronet, ARCM, is a biblical scholar, unitarian Christian theologian, author and professor on the faculty of Atlanta Bible College.
Am very happy with the whole research and facts. I have a request please give a brief description about dead sea scrolls
Good conversation may allah guide him
I pray that Allah swt blesses Christianity (socinianism) with thousands of more people like him and may Allah swt through his holy spirit use people like him to restore Christianity and may he make it flourish till the day of resurrection
Assalamualaikum brother Paul. thank you for your precious videos.I think in my very humble point of view that among the reasons a lot of christians revert to Islam is that the gospel or the bible is proved to be written by different people where in a lot of passages or verses one contradicts the other and thus creating this sort of complications to the receiver. The revelation of the Quran wich is the words of God directly to his prophet Muhammad peace be upon him seems logic to correct all the chaos and corruption that writers of the gospel created. I think when God sent his prophets peace be upon them all to show mankind throughout history the truth he subhanah sent some of his messengers carrying books like Torah Gospel Quran and other books. so what was the inner intention of those who replaced words by others to fit and match and etc... we're they better than God himself in chosing the right words!
Matthew 15:11
"What goes into someone’s mouth does not defile them, but what comes out of their mouth, that is what defiles them.”
Again, Jesus directs people to see that, it is our internal thoughts and attitudes towards our neighbours and our creator God are what truly matters.
I can hear the speaker's corner out of brother Paul😅
This was brilliant.
Not officially Muslim 🤔
May Allah swt make you firm on the Deen
Paul, "I'm not officially a Muslim yet". I'm very surprised. 🙁
Can you make a video about your takeaways from the call
I am really curious about the unitarian view on the cruci - fiction...
What does this Paul guy thinks about the crucifixion
@@faithfultheology - They believe in the holy Bible because they are real christians
Lovely conversation...
What did you meant unofficially Muslim?
This is between him and Allah, just leave it.
He said he is looking for the truth, & Islam seems to be it!
the problem is that death dont wait, why not accepting islam to be an official muslim and have paradise for guaranteed, Thats better, i knew some people who are never sure about islam and stay in between for 3 or 4 years. But really, i understand the right he has to choose wisely, because salvation is on the line, but just don't abuse that right😄
Regarding the baptism of John the Baptist in Acts 19, there is no indication that Paul thought these individuals sins had not been adequately forgiven through the baptism of John. The text also indicates that these men may not even have known of the message /ministy of Jesus? I do not think it is unfair to assume assume that Paul shared the gospel message with these men thus allowing them to be baptised into the name of Jesus, thereby allowing them to recieve the gift of the Holy Spirit when Paul laid his hands on them. Again, there is no reference as to the adequacy or otherwise concerning the forgiveness of sins. This passage should be read in light of a similar occurance concerning re-baptism in Acts 8. Again here, the purpose of re-baptism has nothing, according to the text, to do with the forgiveness of sins but rather with the infilling of the holy spirit. This is particulary acute here, as the passage says they were already baptised into the name of Jesus. But despite already being baptised into the name of Jesus they had not received the infilling of the Holy Spirit whihc then occured through the laying on of hands.
Paul never met Jesus, he tortured Christians, why wouldn't Jesus choose one of his diciples who he lived with to preach law doesn't apply to them. Why Paul - what relationship did he have to change the whole message of Jesus.
Sir Anthony brought up Acts 19; but in Acts 19, the apostle Paul acknowledges that John's baptism was a baptism of repentance; he doesn't challenge the efficacy of that baptism for repentance, but thinks that receiving the Holy Spirit goes beyond what John's baptism can offer. So I think this does not challenge what Paul Williams was saying.
I agree.
@@BloggingTheology - I pray that Allah swt through his holy spirit brings rise to Christianity (socinianism) and may he make it the strongest faith in the world and preserve it till the day of resurrection
We came to life from the darkness of the womb. The Creator made us think. Animals are lust without a mind. Angels have neither desire nor mind. We are mind and lust.
May Allah guide him
So will there be any video from you expressing your thoughts about this discussion?
Just curios. Wonder why Christians ( enlightened ones ) not move to Unitarian churches?
We should accept the truth very quickly because death can come any time.May Allah guide u and all of us.
Hello mr Paul, my name is Mohammed and I'm a muslim from egypt, I have had a past of agnosticism but then became a muslim "again, as I was born to a Muslim family", I spent a year comparing and discussing religon, anyway, I would love to have a chat with you about modern teenagers and religion, it would be lovely to have a chat with you.
Too many ads on this video.
sorry
@@BloggingTheology No worry.
@@BloggingTheology i don't see any.
Dear sir, now that I follow your blog closely, I would really appreciate if you could clarify what it means to accept islam “unofficially”. Very sincere curiosity question, nothing more. This would help me understand your starting point when you address issues, which I have and am sure will continue to follow with joy. Warm regards.
He is not a revert but someone who leans towards it and sympathizes/shares the basic Islamic view, but not without the things he is yet to work out before deciding if he really believes it or not. Aka still searching but Islam-leaning
Paul, i steel alwayse loving you, please, i have never read the bible, could you tell me if there is in the bible, where and when did jesus say i am god worship me, thank you.
Jesus never said that he is God that's a fact (In the Bible also no mentioning about Jesus as GOD or a god). It's pure a human fabrication ( The Council of Nicaea established this "biggest scam all time"). May God help our Christian brothers and sisters to find the way back to The One and Only God.
The most interesting in this video is;
" Unofficially um i do accept that, but.."
I'm gonna say, What are you waiting Paul?
You work in an office? Out of interest what do you do? Or is thst too personal a question? )
personal :)
As much as I enjoyed this video, the adverts aren't timed well when they appear. Sometimes cutting to advert mid sentence.
There is no English subtitle 😢
paul is not a muslim?