Strange! While we are claiming that Jesus is a Muslim, because Muslim is defined as a person who submitted to the will of Allah (God), they cannot claim that Jesus is a Christian because Christianity does not exist before Paul.
Tengku Mohd Affandi CLAIMS: "they cannot claim that Jesus is a Christian because Christianity does not exist before Paul" Biodegradable Bill RESPONDS: Me dear Tengku Mohd Affandi, YOU are CLUELESS about Pai;! ACTS 11:26 "And the disciples were called CHRISTIANS FIRST in Antioch." Paul had NEVER SET FOOT in Antioch before ACTS Chapter 11 and in ACTS Chapter 11 it was BARNABAS that was SENT by Jerusalem to teach the people in Antioch NOT Paul. So YOUR theory that "Christianity did NOT exist before Paul is PURE Black Rock Kissing NONSENSE!
@@michrohm Let's assume that Ahura Mazda has such descriptions and attributes. In that case, there was no reason for Persians to convert to Islam, since they had already been "Muslims"
@@SundayBeastz WHY JESUS DISCIPLES NEVER CALL CHRISTIAN FRONT OF JESUS???MATT 5:17,WHO JESUS FOLLOW ACTUALLY,MOSES,AND HOW JESUS KNOW ABOUT MOSES PRAY,AND JESUS DO THE SAME PRAY LIKE MOSES...DID MOSES CHRISTIAN TOO..😀😀HOW ABOUT ABRAHAM,CHRISTIAN TOO..BUT ABRAHAM PRAY SAME LIKE JESUS,ISAIAH 60:3-7,DO YOU DO FESTIVAL LIKE MUSLIM DO..IF NOT,THAT MEAN YOU ARE UNDER WRONG FAITH..AND FAITH WITHOUT WORK..😀😀
@Let Me Talk for quran all manuscripts point inly to 8th century... Surprisingly haufsa copy, 5/ 7 uttman copies which were sent to different places are missing without even a mild trace.... Ie., no original to verify according to scholarship. We know uttman had copies and haufsa had a written copy but not found till date. Islamic text reliabilitis based on single source ie., Mohammed... The original single source is lost/ destroyed by uttman and company or missing. Christian source of preservation is diverse source... New testament has 27 books to talk bout Jesus divinity. If 20 books are lost still 7 will prove it. Bible is a compilation of many books by different authors. New testament is not dictation book by God. So not verbatim by verbatim. It is narration by different authors and we believe in inspiration, but individual writes using his language, style of writing, ... So we have different compilers and writers,... But all writers are clear about Jesus divinity... And scholarship accepts it. That is why Christians have no problem with some Bible having extra books in its compilation. It is for Muslim the believe 1."every prophet a book" 2. Allah dictates "so verbatim by verbatim" So no change is possible and only Arabic etc. 3. So for you original is important because you believe in "only Mohammed" for quran and haddis. 4. All original manuscript and first written quran lost or destroyed purposely and hence scholarship have difficulty to check or verify verbatim by verbatim same or not. 5. Injeel introduced by Muslim and claimed dro be lost without a trace... 6. Allah protects and copy is available in heaven. 7. Many abrogations are done in haddis 8. Many sahih haddis are getting knocked out by Muslim scholarship of 21 th century. 9. Preservation of quran and haddis were done only by Muslims under kings so how it got lost? 10. Chain of narration is by arabs, and haufs quran is perfect but haufs is a lier🙃 and his haddis is rejected. 11. Contradictions in text...like sun setting, adult breast suckling, 4 wives for men, creation and order, jazia, fight till the last days, pretend to be a friend with Jews and Christian, apostasy punishment, claiming no sacrifice is possible but instead of Jesus someone like Jesus got crucified, satanic versus, etc... 12.Scholarship is after these kind of controversies of Islamic text Your criteria asre applicable only to Islamic text ours is different.... Because both have different philosophy when we talk about nature of preservation. In Christianity we don't have that criteria.., everyone knows there are minor changes in number of books or different manuscript available.... This is because many independent sources and each author write what information he was having.... Hence now scholarship has lot of source to check and cross check the divinity of Jesus and majority of them accept it. Our preservation perfectly matches our belief and scholarship.... Your preservation perfectly matches Islamic belief but not scholarship.... So problem in validity and reliability. ... And scholarship is now digging deep and found "the holes in the narrative" - Yasir Quadi In other words we don't claim audio recording of the text to have same script... Different writers and have different script but the story remains the same. You claim audio recording of your text. Single source Mohammed so source is necessary without which no way to verify. And the surprise is Calif uttman burnt manuscript... Why? Absolutely needed in this context, how can Mohammed verified text be burnt by a Muslim cailf.. How? All originals gone like injeel. And even now many qurans.... Haufs and walsh are not same...
@@bbccnn8836 @bbc ccn lets talk about issues you have raised -the divinity of jesus -the authenticity of Quran -the contradictions in quran due to abrogations in the hadiths -the verbatim of quran -the polygamous nature of islam -the strive/jihad/fight to the end concept -the corruption of scriptures books before Quran -the validity and reliability of these scriptures -ancient manuscripts and the list goes on and on.......
You are doing a great job Paul. You bring the smartest scholars all the time. I'm on my way to becoming a Muslim scholar n bible. I even quit my career at 28 to focus on scholarship.
Paul might I suggest you make a website too, so after you, may you live a long life, people can still benefit from your videos if youtube decides to take it down.
@@BloggingTheology This website is very chaotic and not neatly organized. I suggest making a completely new website with only useful content from your past endeavors and all TH-cam videos.
Good idea brother, give him helping hand . If you know how to , or a friend knows so either by brain or by money . I will help by money as much as I can . See if br paul will like. First make design and content suggestions and if approved by br paul let us help build it . The work of Br Paul should be UNIVERSAL and revolutionising . Inshallah. The other PAUL muddled the message of JESUS our br PAUL is straightening CHRISTIANITY after 20 centuries . May Allah make him successful . I think br Pauls interviews to translated to all important languages of world. Russian , Chinese and German etec etc inshallah.
Brilliant interview Paul and an insightful session with Professor Barrie Wilson....may I suggest Paul, that you start using timestamps on your videos, it would be really beneficial for your viewers, I hope.
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What I gathered from all that is Jesus never came up with a new religion called Christianity he came to simply to correct the ways of those went astray and to give them the good news.
Me dear hope, What YOU have gathered from all this is WRONG.. Jesus Christ came to save YOU FROM your SINS! YOU might like to ACTUALLY read the Glorious Holy Bible instead of WASTING your TIME watching worthless black rock kissing TH-cam Videos. MATTHEW 1:21 And she shall bring forth a SON and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall SAVE his people FROM their SINS.
@@SundayBeastz dear bill, we muslims truly love jesus more than christians do.....He came as a messenger of Allah to spread the truth,to worship only one God and save themselves from hell.....
Jesus was going to be crusified because he claimed he was the Messiah to the Jews, but he didn't fit there prophecy; Allah, clearly states in the Quran, "Remember when I protected you from the children of Israel when you came to them with clear proof, but the disbelievers amoug them said "this is nothing but clear magic". Since the Jewish people were familiar with magic at there time in Babylon, they rejected him as the meissah thinking his a fraud as he didn't fit there prophecy, that's why he was 'going' to get crusified. Then God, raised him up before getting crusified.
" Save HIS people from the sins" this doesn't mean he is god . He came to certain people, lost sheep of Jews , to save them from their religious hypocrisy and get them to the right way to God .
@@SundayBeastz Quran, The Heifer, 2:174-177 174. Those who conceal what Allah revealed in the Book, and exchange it for a small price-those swallow nothing but fire into their bellies. And Allah will not speak to them on the Day of Resurrection, nor will He purify them, and they will have a painful punishment. 175. It is they who exchange guidance for error, and forgiveness for punishment. But why do they insist on the Fire? 176. That is because Allah has revealed the Book in truth; and those who differ about the Book are in deep discord. 177. Righteousness does not consist of turning your faces towards the East and the West. But righteous is he who believes in Allah, and the Last Day, and the angels, and the Scripture, and the prophets. Who gives money, though dear, to near relatives, and orphans, and the needy, and the homeless, and the beggars, and for the freeing of slaves; those who perform the prayers, and pay the obligatory charity, and fulfill their promise when they promise, and patiently persevere in the face of persecution, hardship, and in the time of conflict. These are the sincere; these are the pious.
"easy religion"! Paul offered a religion with no 'baggage'! This is the single most significant sentence Mr Wilson spoke! Simply accept Christ as saviour and dump all your sins on Christ's tab! Terrific! just so convenient, I mean how can Judaism or islam compete with that? absolute delusion...
@@tripp8833 excuse me? Just what position is this? İs it not a fact that Christ paid for... infact according to doctrine was crucified for the sins of man? You people are unbelievable!
@@adnankaba3372 The fact that Jesus died for our sins “dump all your sins on Jesus’ tab” ….. but this is to deliver us from sin ….. that we might live pure, holy lives that are pleasing God!
@@banzakidimye348 The issue here is responsibility! What difference do your excuses make? Here's a scenario for you to contemplate...a 'child molesting priest' who accepted Christ as his saviour is seen by his innocent victims as he is walking hand in hand with 'Christ' in the garden (paradise) so the horrified kids start pleading with Christ...'O Christ our lord... how can this monster be in here with us? Don't you know what he did to us? So...tell me sir İn your opinion, how would Christ respond to this? & By the way the same applies to a Muslim impostor imam if he were to commit the same hideous crime. The issue here is responsibility...& Logic.
A very interesting and thought provoking discussion, both of you discussed such deep topics concisely and clearly so even a lay person like me enjoyed and understood the material. Thank you
مَثَلَ عِيسَىٰ عِندَ اللَّهِ كَمَثَلِ آدَمَ ۖ خَلَقَهُ مِن تُرَابٍ ثُمَّ قَالَ لَهُ كُن فَيَكُونُ (ال عمران 59) Verily, the likeness of Issa (Jesus) before Allah is the likeness of Adam He created him( Adam ) from dust, then He said to him (Adam) : Be and he was. Quran, Chapter 3 verse no 59
Really great video brother Paul!! Im wondering if in the future you would do a video on Jewish Hellenism? It would really great to learn more! Thank you so much again brother Paul!!
@@seekthetruthandthetruthwil2388 Which "Holy Spirit" is "true"? The Catholic "Holy Spirit"? The Baptist "Holy Spirit"? The Methodist "Holy Spirit"? The Pentecostal "Holy Spirit"? The Episcopalian "Holy Spirit"? The Unitarian "Holy Spirit"? The Jehovah's Witness' "Holy Spirit"? Which one? According to Christian creed "Holy Spirit" is 100% "God", and as such God does not contradict Himself. But these different sects of christianity have some differences in their core doctrines that contradict each other and they all claim to be "guided" by the "Holy Spirit" in determining their beliefs. So all of their "Holy Spirit" cannot be the true "Holy Spirit", only one of them is true and the rest are fake. SO, WHICH SECT'S "HOLY SPIRIT" IS TRUE? AND WHICH ONES ARE FAKE holy spirits?
@@seekthetruthandthetruthwil2388 You did not answer my question. Which sect of Christianity has the "true" Holy Spirit? And which ones are the fake "Holy Spirit"?
Salam Paul, I recently found your youtube channel, and I've been binge watching since. You have outstanding view points, topics, discussions, and guests. For that, I thank you. I highly recommend you to look into the works of the Moroccan philosopher Abdurrahman Taha. A good intro in english to this would be the book "Reforming Modernity: Ethics and the New Human in the Philosophy of Abdurrahman Taha" by the world renown Wael B. Hallaq. And even better, if you can get one of Abdurrahman Taha's students on your show that would be amazing. Regards, A brother
My humble request to all please watch one more discussion related to this topic. First generations of Christians in History - Dr. Steve Mason, but on different channel.
Hello brother Paul. Could you do a session with Dr Omar Zaid. He is an American revert. He has vast experience and knowledge on pagan origins of Christianity
Thanks Brother Paul for your usual informative stream with intellectuals. This stream on your end was not the best. I hope you fix that for future discussions. May Allah bless you and your efforts to educate us.
@50:50 prof Wilson says: "they couldn't stay together they couldn't eat together...", can you please explain? Thanks 👍 ...awesome interview! greetings from Rome.
It seems yet again that an honest exploration of evidence is leading toward a picture of Christ and his teachings which confirm the Islamic understanding.
I disagree. But then I'm not a believer in Islam. I do think we have to inquire of the knowledge of various scholars. I respect how you feel and I need myself to seek "an honest exploration of evidence". But first I have to define for myself what "evidence" means. Peace to you....
@@johnbrzykcy3076 Thank you for your thoughtful and respectful response. I completely agree with continuously seeking knowledge, and certainly not all Christian scholars would conclude the same as the current guest, but it is interesting that the majority, if not all, of the esteemed Biblical scholars on this channel seem to lean more toward an Islamic view rather than a Trinitarian/ credal Christian one. The epistle of James is very Islamic in its content, and the words attributed to Christ in the Gospels can almost all be seen in conformance with the Islamic understanding ( some much more readily than others, certainly). May we all be led closer to the Truth.
@@quixoticmelancholic7141 Thanks so much for your civil reply to me. I like where you say that "the epistle of James is very Islamic in it's content". The reason I like your comment is because I think James is also strongly communicating the truth of Jesus' teachings regarding "faith". And as a Christian, I struggle to understand "faith." So I need to read James again. To me, "faith" and "works" should always go together. How do you see the "words attributed to Christ" as almost "in conformance with Islamic understanding"? Do you mean when Jesus talks about God? I appreciate your time. PEACE to you....
@@johnbrzykcy3076 I believe what he is trying to say is that Jesus(PBUH) preached the same message that Islam teaches. Muslims have already been aware of this because the Quran says that the injil(You would call it the gospel) revealed to Jesus(PBUH) & preached by Jesus; is true and that every Muslim should believe it. Today’s Christianity has gone away from the true message of Jesus(PBUH) they’ve diluted their minds with the belief that Jesus(PBUH) is God & the existence of a Trinity. These are grave mistakes made by many Christians. Inshallah Allah will guide you back to the straight path & to the Truth🙏🏾
@@johnbrzykcy3076 Certainly when he spoke about God (though the term "Father" is never used in Islam, the attribute of Rabb subsumes it), but in almost every other instance as well. When he calls himself a prophet; when he makes it clear it is through God's power, not his own, that he does miracles; when he teaches that forgiveness comes from repentance (the Prodigal Son), and forgiving others (The Parable of the Unmerciful Servant); when he teaches that sincere love of God is worlds away from hypocritical, carping "obedience"; how those who believe AND do righteous deeds will inherit eternal life (the parable of the goats and the sheep), and so on. Compare the Lord's Prayer with Sura Al-Fatihah- I can't imagine any sincere Christian or Muslim finding any issue with accepting both.
This is so interesting. The first thing that comes to my mind is the interaction between what Jesus referred to in Matthew 23:23 and the point made in Micah 6:7 and 6:8. Is it reasonable to understand, when one reads these together Jesus, by referring to the " the more important matters of the law-justice, mercy and faithfulness" set out in Micah 6:8, that he also aligns himself to the question in Micah 6:7 which Micah 6:8 is answering? i.e. "...7 Shall I offer my firstborn for my transgression, the fruit of my body for the sin of my soul? 8 He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly[a] with your God." Is this not a clear indication that Jesus aligned himself with the view that God does not require the sacrifice of first born sons for the forgiveness of sins? The second thing that comes to mind is the content of 1 Samuel 8:7. " And the Lord said unto Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them." Was Jesus not then, by telling the 'lost sheep of Israel' that they should seek the kingdom of God, simply calling them to return to God that He may reign over them? This would imply that Jesus was calling them to return to God's existing kingdom rather than establishing an entirely new one in the future. After all if Psalm 110 says the messiah will be a priest forever in the order of Melchisidek, and Melchisidek was the priest-king who 'admitted' Abraham into God's preceding domain, then to me it makes sense that the Kingdom of God is a long standing entity in which Jesus plays a major role rather than an entirely new one yet to be established. Does this not then clarify why Jesus spoke in the present tense to his audience about the Kingdom of God?
stop bying demon inspired book of lies and think for yourself . the "professor said that jesus was a copie of pagan myth taking the exemple of mithra and said that mithra died and rose again like jesus . it's false mithra never died according to the pagan myth of mithra. so mithra never rose again neither . you peoples believe anything really. you have thousands of books of lies it's not because a new book is released that you have to buy it.
@@godhasgivenussalvationinth5223 I don't think I'll be reading the book by this scholar but I would not go so far as to say it is a "demon inspired book of lies". I would say rather the book is probably the worldview of this scholar based on how he understands Christianity ( which is differently from how I view Christianity ). But I still respect this scholars knowledge even if I disagree with some statements that he makes. I'm no scholar therefore I need a scholar. Jesus was the Greatest scholar !! God bless
@@johnbrzykcy3076 the guy said that mithra died and rose again like jesus. mithra never died according to the story of mithra and therefore didnt rose again neither. to tell thoses kind of lies it's a joke . he said that the gospel of mark does not talk about the crusifixion and the resurection , it's a joke , everybody is a scholar today you just have to go through some classes where you will be taught an antichrist view of the bibe, christianity , lies about the message of the bible ext... and then you gain the title "scholar" . satan got pretty much all the education system under his control: schools,universities, colleges ext... so anybody that goes to thoses classes and formations to search for the truth have no idea what they are doing.
I really agree strongly with the views of this scholar (Barrie Wilson). To me, Jesus was a very admirable figure, while Paul was a usurper who bears much of the responsibility for two millennia of "Christian" anti-semitism.
Hy dear Paul. I really enjoy your content. Extremely interesting and it makes me think. Are you Muslim? I love it how you use your knowledge to bring the truth to the World. Please keep going. The World is in need of you.
Brother Paul please add the link in description of other books reviewing episode especially Jesus Dynasty and Islam, James the brother of Jesus, unity and diversity in the new testament.
The bit about the visions becoming a big thing was prophesied by Joel. The two biggest groups coming to Jesus today through dreams and visions that I hear about are Muslims and Jews, not Catholics or westerners.
II Corinthians 11.13-15 (minute 18:20-18:31) does not mention James. There is no reason from that passage to think that Paul would have considered James to be a false apostle, at least not that I can see. I may be confused because there are more than two James-named early followers of Jesus. Was the James in question a Judaizer who insisted that the Gentiles be circumcised in order to follow Christ? If James took that position for a time, did he still take that position after the council of Acts 15? "Purified their hearts by faith" sounds like the fulfillment of the new covenant prophesied in Deut. 30.6, which Paul writes of in Romans 2.29, Colossians 2.11-12. Ezekiel 44.6 makes mention of the two circumcisions - the one of the flesh seems to foreshadow the one of the heart. The Hebrew Scriptures say that both are necessary, but they point to a new covenant hashem will establish (Jeremiah 31.31-34) which will be open to all nations, beginning with Israel. God is not going to stop with being the God of one nation; He will not rest until all nations acknowledge him. See the book Hidden but Now Revealed (Mystery) by Gladd and Beale, which unwraps the bits about how the Hebrew Scriptures foretold a time of waiting between the first and second Messianic coming, and how the Hebrew Scriptures foretold a day when Gentiles would be included, even as the gods of the Gentiles would be destroyed. Not only was Israel to be redeemed from idolatry, but all the nations as well.
Hey Paul... although I disagree with some of the statements by this scholar, I do find them thought-provoking. Therefore if I ponder the scholar's words, they should challenge me to study and understand better the teachings of Jesus. Thanks
Allah the one and only true eternal god says: (33. God chose Adam, and Noah, and the family of Abraham, and the family of Imran, over all mankind. 34. Offspring one of the other. God is Hearer and Knower. 35. The wife of Imran said, “My Lord, I have vowed to You what is in my womb, dedicated, so accept from me; You are the Hearer and Knower.” 36. And when she delivered her, she said, “My Lord, I have delivered a female,” and God was well aware of what she has delivered, “and the male is not like the female, and I have named her Mary, and have commended her and her descendants to Your protection, from Satan the outcast.” 37. Her Lord accepted her with a gracious reception, and brought her a beautiful upbringing, and entrusted her to the care of Zechariah. Whenever Zechariah entered upon her in the sanctuary, he found her with provision. He said, “O Mary, where did you get this from?” She said, “It is from God; God provides to whom He wills without reckoning.” 38. Thereupon Zechariah prayed to his Lord; he said, “My Lord, bestow on me good offspring from Your presence; You are the Hearer of Prayers.” 39. Then the angels called out to him, as he stood praying in the sanctuary: “God gives you good news of John; confirming a Word from God, and honorable, and moral, and a prophet; one of the upright.” 40. He said, “My Lord, how will I have a son, when old age has overtaken me, and my wife is barren?” He said, “Even so, God does whatever He wills.” 41. He said, “My Lord, give me a sign.” He said, “Your sign is that you shall not speak to the people for three days, except by gestures. And remember your Lord much, and praise in the evening and the morning.” 42. The angels said, “O Mary, God has chosen you, and has purified you. He has chosen you over all the women of the world. 43. “O Mary, be devoted to your Lord, and bow down, and kneel with those who kneel.” 44. These are accounts from the Unseen, which We reveal to you. You were not with them when they cast their lots as to which of them would take charge of Mary; nor were you with them as they quarreled. 45. The Angels said, “O Mary, God gives you good news of a Word from Him. His name is the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, well-esteemed in this world and the next, and one of the nearest. 46. He will speak to the people from the crib, and in adulthood, and will be one of the righteous.” 47. She said, “My Lord, how can I have a child, when no man has touched me?” He said, “It will be so. God creates whatever He wills. To have anything done, He only says to it, ‘Be,’ and it is.” 48. And He will teach him the Scripture and wisdom, and the Torah and the Gospel. 49. A messenger to the Children of Israel: “I have come to you with a sign from your Lord. I make for you out of clay the figure of a bird; then I breathe into it, and it becomes a bird by God’s leave. And I heal the blind and the leprous, and I revive the dead, by God’s leave. And I inform you concerning what you eat, and what you store in your homes. In that is a sign for you, if you are believers.” 50. “And verifying what lies before me of the Torah, and to make lawful for you some of what was forbidden to you. I have come to you with a sign from your Lord; so fear God, and obey me.” 51. “God is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him. That is a straight path.” 52. When Jesus sensed disbelief on their part, he said, “Who are my allies towards God?” The disciples said, “We are God’s allies; we have believed in God, and bear witness that we submit.” 53. “Our Lord, we have believed in what You have revealed, and we have followed the Messenger, so count us among the witnesses.” 54. They planned, and God planned; but God is the Best of planners. 55. God said, “O Jesus, I am terminating your life, and raising you to Me, and clearing you of those who disbelieve. And I will make those who follow you superior to those who disbelieve, until the Day of Resurrection. Then to Me is your return; then I will judge between you regarding what you were disputing. 56. As for those who disbelieve, I will punish them with a severe punishment, in this world and the next, and they will have no helpers. 57. And as for those who believe and do good works, He will give them their rewards in full. God does not love the unjust.” 58. This is what We recite to you of the Verses and the Wise Reminder. 59. The likeness of Jesus in God’s sight is that of Adam: He created him from dust, then said to him, “Be,” and he was. 60. The truth is from your Lord, so do not be of those who doubt. 61. And if anyone disputes with you about him, after the knowledge that has come to you, say, “Come, let us call our children and your children, and our women and your women, and ourselves and yourselves, and let us invoke God’s curse on the liars.” 62. This is the narrative of truth: there is no god but God. God is the Mighty, the Wise. 63. But if they turn away-God knows the corrupt. 64. Say, “O People of the Book, come to terms common between us and you: that we worship none but God, and that we associate nothing with Him, and that none of us takes others as lords besides God.” And if they turn away, say, “Bear witness that we have submitted.” ) sourate 3 al-imran (family of imran) ayah 33 to 64
@@seekthetruthandthetruthwil2388 You have to understand that every living man or woman is the child of Adam and Eve (peace be upon them both) and also the child of Noah (peace be upon him) Allah the one and only true eternal god revealed to his last prophet Muhammed (peace be upon him) in the last book the holy quran this: (13. O people! We created you from a male and a female, and made you races and tribes, that you may know one another. The best among you in the sight of God is the most righteous. God is All-Knowing, Well-Experienced.) sourate 49 al-hujurat ayah13
@@seekthetruthandthetruthwil2388 Allah is the one and only true eternal living god who had created his servant our father Adam, god says: (30. When your Lord said to the angels, “I am placing a successor on earth.” They said, “Will You place in it someone who will cause corruption in it and shed blood, while we declare Your praises and sanctify You?” He said, “I know what you do not know.” 31. And He taught Adam the names, all of them; then he presented them to the angels, and said, “Tell Me the names of these, if you are sincere.” 32. They said, “Glory be to You! We have no knowledge except what You have taught us. It is you who are the Knowledgeable, the Wise.” 33. He said, “O Adam, tell them their names.” And when he told them their names, He said, “Did I not tell you that I know the secrets of the heavens and the earth, and that I know what you reveal and what you conceal?” 34. And We said to the angels, “Bow down to Adam.” They bowed down, except for Satan. He refused, was arrogant, and was one of the disbelievers. 35. We said, “O Adam, inhabit the Garden, you and your spouse, and eat from it freely as you please, but do not approach this tree, lest you become wrongdoers.” 36. But Satan caused them to slip from it, and caused them to depart the state they were in. We said, “Go down, some of you enemies of one another. And you will have residence on earth, and enjoyment for a while.” 37. Then Adam received words from his Lord, so He relented towards him. He is the Relenting, the Merciful. 38. We said, “Go down from it, all of you. Yet whenever guidance comes to you from Me, then whoever follows My guidance-they have nothing to fear, nor shall they grieve. 39. But as for those who disbelieve and reject Our signs-these are the inmates of the Fire-wherein they will remain forever.”) sourate 2 al-baqarah (the heifer) ayah 30 to 39
@@johnbrzykcy3076 was good from what I remember. Pretty much told us what most scholar have always been saying. Pauline churchinaity is very different too what the original church of Jesus followed
Luke 22:34 Jesus said, “I tell you, Peter, the rooster will not crow this day, until you deny three times that you know me.” John 13:11 For He knew the one who was betraying Him; for this reason He said, “Not all of you are clean.”
I just don’t know how many more proofs a person needs against the deity of christ. The volume of detailed information that shows the NT is a disjointed contradictory muddy text is immense.
Allah says,"Is one who worships devoutly during the hour of the night prostrating himself or standing ( in adoration ) , who takes heed of the Hereafter , and who places his hope in the Mercy of his Lord - ( like one who does not ) ? Say : " Are those equal , those who know and those who do not know ? It is those who are endued with understanding that receive admonition . Say : " O ye my servants who believe ! Fear your Lord , good is ( the reward ) for those who do good in this world . Spacious is Allah.s earth ! those who patiently persevere will truly receive a reward without measure ! ami ("Surah-Jumar)Al Quran
@@mohamedsmaili297, that is exactly what satan would like everyone to believe. The moment Jesus died without sin was the very moment satan's claim on man was destroyed. Without his sinless death, there were no reason for his virgin birth neither his manifestation in flesh...
@@andrevisser7542 Allah who is called "Dieu=Dio=Deus" is the one and only true eternal living God who had elevated his servant and prophet the messiah Jesus son of Mary (peace be upon them both) to him, in the holy Quran God says: (156. And for their faithlessness, and their saying against Mary a monstrous slander. 157. And for their saying, “We have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the Messenger of God.” In fact, they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him, but it appeared to them as if they did. Indeed, those who differ about him are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it, except the following of assumptions. Certainly, they did not kill him. 158. Rather, God raised him up to Himself. God is Mighty and Wise.) sourate 4 an-nisa ayah 156 to 158
@@andrevisser7542 of jesus took everyone sin the he became the most sinful person on earth so therfore he was not sinless, also according to Christianity everyone is born with sin also why did he baptised also when a person called jesus good teacher he responded don't call me good, no one is good accept God.
I don't think the person of jesus is being treated with the respect due to him. His teachings was to love God with all youy soul yout mind your strength and love your neighbour. He said love your enemy. Pray for him who despite fully uses you. How can anyone find fault with these teachings other than that they are si difficult to put into practice.
"The impact of what Paul did was to deprive Jesus of any kind of Jewish stature." Wow... interesting. I have not studied Paul's writings very much. I think the Jewish background of Jesus is very important. I do think Jesus came to reveal God's love for everyone, including people of other religions. I know that Paul's "theology" is somewhat confusing. But disregarding the way that we perceive Paul's words, Jesus' own teachings were grounded in Judaism and hopefully cannot be seen as any "fundamental attack upon the basic character of the Jewish religion". I appreciate the scholar's views regarding Paul. But to say " none of it comes through ever, in his letters" ( in reference to Saint Paul's understanding of Jesus ) is hard for me to swallow and accept. Peace....
It hard for YOU to swallow and accept because YOUR false faith collapses with that. The E.V.I.L fruits of Paul of the Bible. *BY THE FRUITS YE SHALL KNOW THEM* No wonder Jesus foretold and WARNED. Thanks to Saul aka Paul the Feroci0us W0LF in SHEEP'S clothing whom Jesus WARNED about, it's Christianity / Christians making a 🚩 *LIAR of Jesus Christ* till the end of times. 1) ✔️ Jesus: THE FATHER IS THE ONLY TRUE GOD. ✖️ Christians: NO. The Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit (The Trinity) is the true God. 2) ✔️Jesus: NO payment needed, NO Jesus died for us. Just repent sincerely and the Merciful God (THE ONLY TRUE GOD - THE FATHER) forgives. ✖️ Christians: NO. Salvation comes by the blood of Jesus and his dying on the cross 3) ✔️ Jesus: Keep the Laws and the commandments if you want eternal life ✖️ Christians: NO. Eternal life comes by faith in the sacrifice of Jesus 4) ✔️ Jesus: Do NOT neglect even the smallest laws ✖️ Christians: NO. Those laws are unimportant 5) ✔️ Jesus: I was sent ONLY for the lost sheep of Israel ✖️ Christians: NO. Jesus came for us all, Jesus came for all of mankind Peace.
There this video by Lawrence Kuhn in Closer To Truth in the project The Global Philosophy of Religion where he interviews Hamza Yusuf about Islam. You might find it illuminating.
Jesus spoke to Paul, of course, and sent him out as an apostle. Acts 26.17 Jesus says "I am sending you", and the word apostle refers to one who is sent.
I have watched several of the videos posted on your channel. It seems odd to me that no one quotes Schillebeeckx. (For example, when you are talking about visions).
it's an irony that you will not find any Christian utter the Crystal Clear statements of Jesus Christ about himself and how He differentiate Himself from God Almighty, they even hate to heard from others.
No, you will. I utter the Crystal Clear statements of Jesus Christ about himself and how He differentiated Himself from God Almighty. He said multiple times that his Father is greater than him, that we should worship the Father, the God Almighty, that he will return to the Father, etc.
I tend to agree with you although I won't generalize in such a way. I do appreciate scholars, even if I often disagree with their statements, because often their worldviews and beliefs make me think. And I need to think better. Thanks for sharing....
Speaking from a person with no title before (or after) their names? Not to disrespect, academia is fundamental to ensure your beliefs are vetted and critiqued. Otherwise, it's nothing more than hearsay and magic books.
@@NsShadid, I surely don't disrespect people with a lot of titles to their names, they bring knowledge to all of us. All I'm saying is that it seems most of them don't have knowledge about the spirit realm and what happened or is happening there...
Don't you think there must be something fundamentally wrong with the administered layman's narrative if the more educated someone is, the more skeptical they become?
@@hassankassim8078, not at all what my comment is about, it is just a general observation and definitely not true for everyone. Point is to get knowledge of the spirit realm, you have to get your spirit resurrected first and there is only one way to achieve that... Something many learned people reject because there are no degrees to the names of the people who wrote the manual.
The millennial messianic Jewish community of minute 17:30 - 17:35 is inaugurated by Jesus to some degree at the first coming, but Jesus himself (Matthew 24.14, The parable of the sower, the Parable of the Wheat and Tares, etc.) and the Apostles (see II Peter 3:3-15, James 5:7--11 (two rains like the two comings and two appearances in Hosea 6:3 that James apparently alludes to), II Thes. 2 the beginning verses of the chapter, Revelation from Jesus to John 22.11 which is so much like David Gooding's explanation of Daniel's last few chapters (surrounding 12.10) ... all these testify to early Christians and Jesus himself recognizing that the first coming would not be the day of reaping and immediate judgement - separation of the righteous from the wicked - but instead there would be an undetermined passage of time before Jesus would send the angels to gather the harvest and then the judgement would come. It is at that time, after the judgement, that there would be the millennial messianic Jewish community, except that many Gentiles would be included as one with the righteous physical descendants of Jacob, as prophesied to Abraham and to / through so many other Hebrews in the Hebrew Scriptures.
barrie is saying anything different to Bart Ehrman or James Tabor who have spoken on this channel. paul is very clever with his questions. He knows full well that the apostle Paul doesn't have a scripture reference for dyeing in accordance with the scriptures but Paul williams pretends surprise at this. Still interesting and worth a listen. Dont misunderstand me, i like this channel.
Assalamualaikum brother Paul I would like you to give us an insight religion wise and historically on Joseph/Yusaf a.s for some reason there is so much interest that I have on this subject because it's one of those historical things that I have been confused about according to Judaism Christianity and Islam does it all match or is it different and what's history take on it pls help understand this better thank you very much.
Paul the apostle bases his theology on Moses and the prophets. Isaiah 53:7-12 speak of a dying and rising Messiah. But even if it hadn't been foretold, once Jesus rose from the dead, it was pretty much a given that the resurrection was the work of God, which vindicated Jesus' claims to have been the holy one, and not the cursed pretender that the crucifixion events made Jesus look like. Once God had performed the resurrection, the logical step in thinking was to go back and see how the prophets had foretold it in passages like Isaiah 53:7-12, or the story of Isaac coming off the altar, or how Jesus would be the firstfruits of what was prophesied in Daniel 12:2 and Exekiel's valley of dry bones in chapter 37, etc. God even expressed that he had the power to raise Israel from the dead in Hosea 13.14. Then there's Jonah coming out of the fish's belly, which Jesus himself referred to as a resurrection prophecy applicable to himself. In all these ways, what Paul was saying about Jesus were the same things that Jesus had said about himself, and that the prophets had foretold.
@@BloggingTheology If we start at Isaiah 52:13, he is called "my servant" and it is announced that he would be raised up and highly exalted. 53:1 could be referring to this person as the arm of hashem (see 52.10 of Isaiah). I find convincing the arguments/explanations presented by Dr. Michael Brown and One for Israel, when it comes to how the servant is the Messiah. We see connections in the phrase "high and lifted up" with the enthroned one in Isaiah 6. The Gospel of John shows these two Isaiah passages interpreted as applying to Jesus. Again, beforehand, it may have been hard to understand the passage as Messianic, but once we historically see Jesus resurrected as vindication that He is the Messiah, and we see how Isaiah 53 speaks of Jesus, then we can see that Isaiah 53 is about the Messiah. I can only provide some of the support here, and this paragraph is already long, but I have directed you to where you can find pages of support.
Different perspectives of the word "christ". You define it to be the ever saving figure . We believe that he was a savior of the misled Jews of that time ,as he said. A savior of all sins is a misleading idea that has no basis in Jesus's words. If that was true ,anyone who once believes in him as god and savior, should be in heaven on the spot . Why still suffering the ordeal of life.
@@johnbrzykcy3076 How many Messiah in YOUR Bible? *MANY* ✔️ Jesus is *NO EXCEPTION* 🚩 Of course the NO Christian gave this knowledge to YOU in their lack of knowledge or DECEPTION Bonus: "Messiah / "Christ" / "Anointed". Even the pagan king is Messiah, pillar is Messiah, horn is Messiah, cherub is Messiah, priest is Messiah. Yes. In your Bible. MESSIAH / CHRIST / ANOINTED: NOT A NAME The word CHRIST is derived from the Hebrew word Messiah, Arabic - Masih. Root word m-a-s-a-h-a, meaning to rub, to massage, to anoint. Priests and kings were anointed when being consecrated to their offices. But in its translated, Grecian form "CHRIST", it seems unique: befitting Jesus only. What the Westerner wants do is to translate names into his own language like "cephas" to Peter 1 , "messiah" to Christ. How ? Very easily. MESSIAH in Hebrew means anointed. The Greek word for anointed is "christos". Just lop off the 'os from christos and you are left with Christ. Christos means ANOINTED, and anointed means APPOINTED in its religious connotation. Jesus (pbuh) was appointed (anointed) at his baptism by John the Baptist, as God's Messenger. Every prophet of God is so anointed or appointed. The Holy Bible is replete with the appointed ones. In the original Hebrew - made a "messiah". Let us keep to the English translation - "anointed." Not only were prophets and priests and even heathen kings anointed (christos-ed), but horns, and cherubs and lamp-posts also. I am the God of Beth-el, where you ANOINTED a pillar ... Genesis 31:13 If the priest that is ANOINTED do sin ... Leviticus 4:3 And Moses. ..ANOINTED the tabernacle and all things that was therein... Leviticus 8:10 ...the Lord shall. ..exalt the horn of his ANOINTED. 1 Samuel 2:10 Thus saith the Lord to his ANOINTED to Cyrus... (Cyrus was a heathen, a pagan King. Even he is Christ) Isaiah 45:1 Thou art the ANOINTED cherub... Ezekiel 28:14 a hundred more such references in the Holy Bible. Every time you come across the word ANOINTED in your English Bible, you can take it that that word would be Christos in the Greek translations, and if you take the same liberty with the word that the Christians translators have done, you will have - Christ Cherub, Christ Cyrus, Christ Priest and Christ Pillar, etc.
Exodus 3:13 Then Moses said to God, “If I come to the people of Israel and say to them, ‘The God of your fathers has sent me to you,’ and they ask me, ‘What is his name?’ what shall I say to them?” 14 God said to Moses, “I AM who I AM.” And he said, “Say this to the people of Israel: ‘I AM has sent me to you.’” 15 God also said to Moses, “Say this to the people of Israel: ‘The Lord, the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you.’ This is MY NAME FOREVER, and thus I AM to be remembered throughout ALL GENERATIONS. John 8:58 Jesus said to them, 'Verily, verily, I say to you, Before Abraham's coming -- I AM;'
The religion that Jesus taught was Judaism, himself being the Jewish Messiah. It is a shame so many Christians got away from that, but with the huge number of Jewish people rejecting Jesus' kingship, it makes sense that the Gentiles would struggle keeping the Jewish perspective.
There is a very simple explanation for the life of the life of Essa called Y'Esua, that fits both the Islamic belief and fulfills the Jewish scriptures. One that confirms everything the scriptures said, but it doesn't work under a western christi-anity model that claims the Messiah is some godlike entity who saves the World from evil. When people talk con-fusing words, this is exactly what they do. They mix up one word meaning with another, meanings put together into a new mashed up contaminated concept that only dilutes the actual truth, turning it into an iconic style false doctrine that loses it proper place and meaning to be of Bene-fit to anyone. By twisting the truth so that others can still believe in the players who are correct, but the game has been changed and no longer played correctly. When Y'Esua said that he came to fulfill the scriptures, for the Jews, his claim that he was the enlightened one who by full-filling his destiny was a Prince of Peace prophesied as one of the true Princes (one who bring the right principles) of the true 12 blessed tribes of IsReal. Not that fake Jewish group who falsely and arrogantly claim themselves the chosen people. The truth tribes of Our Creator's people who really submitted to Allah's Will and followed the one straight path given for humanity. Those leaders of this tribe who all stood out annointed and honoured by Our Creator to bring the exact messages they were asked to impart to humanity, but wererejected. Just as Our beloved Seal of these Prophets is now being rejected by humanity as it reaches its last end and all those who follow are also sealed finding their way back are finalized. The Messiah was never or never claiming to being just one person, but the one true light, that all those annointed shone with. One true message, that the many messengers were given. Their messianic duty to show humanity the errors of their ways. Then at the end, the Seal of the Prophets, One most lovely, sent to confirm this message, to close the book, to end a word that was sent from above. All that remains is that time given, for those who would be born to come into existence, for them to see and acknowledge this message , change their direction, to look back up to where we really come from. To see this truth Is Real. This the true Place of Peace we are asked to walk towards in this life. Still there, still accessible, still being de-scribed by the very same words that have always existed, imported into every language because of the important meaning they express. To show those who are able to under-stand this higher straight path to take to reach up where we were all de-signed to get to. To overcome evil and live forever. True Islam, The True Path of Peace. live-evil love-evolve lived-devil de-mon-straighting the true reason why we only deserve to be chained up, to be removed from that tree of life, of those who would given the power destroy life for our own ends. As has been proven by the outcome of our ugly human hi-story. Those who failed to be what was asked of us, to be kind. Human-kind.
Muslim and Christian claim that they both believe in Jesus. 🙏 *I CHALLENGE CHRISTIANS TO EXAMINE WHAT JESUS ACTUALLY TAUGHT (THE AUTHENTIC TEACHINGS OF JESUS).* 🙏
*HOW TO KNOW WHAT JESUS ACTUALLY TAUGHT (THE AUTHENTIC TEACHINGS OF JESUS) ?* WE HAVE A GOOD WAY TO KNOW WHAT JESUS ACTUALLY TAUGHT (THE AUTHENTIC TEACHINGS OF JESUS)......AND THAT IS FROM “THE AUTHENTIC VERSES”……..THE VERSES THOSE AUTHENTIC FROM JESUS HIMSELF OR FROM “THE REAL DISCIPLES”. OFF COURSE, WE DON’T WANT UN-AUTHENTHIC VERSES !!! NOW LETS EXAMINE WHICH VERSES THOSE WERE AUTHENTIC FROM JESUS HIMSELF OR AT LEAST FROM “THE REAL DISCIPLES”. I DON'T SAY THAT ALL VERSES IN "NOWDAY NEW TESTAMENT" ARE 100% AUTHENTIC OR 100% FAKE. NOW, HOW TO KNOW WHICH VERSES THOSE WERE AUTHENTIC FROM JESUS HIM SELF OR FROM “THE REAL DISCIPLES” ? OFF COURSE, WE NEED TO VALIDATE WHICH VERSES WERE AUTHENTIC AND WHICH VERSES WERE NOT. THEN LETS VALIDATE EVERY SINGLE VERSE IF IT WAS AUTHENTIC OR NOT. TO VALIDATE EVERY SINGLE VERSE, WE NEED TO EXAMINE TWO THINGS : 1). THE SOURCES CHAIN 2). THE CONTENT LETS EXAMINE : 1). THE SOURCES CHAIN OF THE VERSE HAD TO BE CLEAR AND CREDIBLE. EVERY SINGLE MAN OF THE NARATORS MUST BE CLEAR AND CREDIBLE 2). THE CONTENT OF THE VERSE HAD TOBE VERIFICATIONABLE IF IT WAS GOOD, STRANGE, CONTRADICTIVE OR ANYTHING. NOW, LETS PICK ANY VERSE TO BE EXAMINED FIRST !!!
Prof.Wilson you need to search about the lineage of Reum and Reul the founders of Roman empire.Did you know that they were the descendents of prophet Izaac pbuh..!? You have to discover the real reason of Jews' hatred of Romans and Roman emperors.That will decide the real reality of the roumors about the second coming of Jesus pbuh.
The first Christian was Paulus. Poor Jesus was born a Jew, lived as a Jew, and died as a Jew. No Christianity at the first years after his death. Only Jews who believed in him who lived among ordinary Jews and prayed in the same Synagogues.
Just my opinion: I think Paul was successful in destroying what Jesus taught. Paul changed his tactics of persecution and even started his own religion calling it Christianity. Fooled so many
@🌜🚬 I think for those who believe Paul’s teaching it was successful. Also for those who saw through it and then turned their back on religion because of the inconsistencies they found in the bible. I find it sad because they now believe that all religions are like that. This is just my opinion based on my experience from what I’ve heard from my friends who are no longer Christian.
@🌜🚬 Well there were are still are unitarian christians existing till this day. Some famous ones include Sir Tim Berners Lee (creator of Internet), Linus Pauling, Erasmus darwin (charles darwin father), John Locke, Boole, Isaac Newton, etc. Also at the time, there are enough clues to show that Jesus half brother preached monotheism as well as Jesus disciples. All monotheists. Theres enough evidence in the bible to dissuade trinitarianism.
@@dom3073 Paul, the follower of Jesus, was not trinitarian. Why does anyone think he was trinitarian? He wrote no such thing. Some people unjustly accuse him of that.
Christ comes from the Greek word χριστός (chrīstós), meaning "anointed one". The word is derived from the Greek verb χρίω (chrī́ō), meaning "to anoint." In the Greek Septuagint, christos was used to translate the Hebrew מָשִׁיחַ (Mašíaḥ, messiah), meaning "[one who is] anointed". Christians means Christ followers If Jesus was a christian then he follow whom?
Your statement makes no sense. You said: "If Jesus was a christian then he follow whom?" >> You are confused! Jesus was a Jew, who recognised himself as the Messiah to prepare the Jewish people spiritually for the coming of the Son of Man (the Davidic Messiah). The Messiah followers were James, Peter, John and Paul and thousands of other Jews and later countless Gentiles, through Paul's obedience to Christ to take the gospel to the Gentiles as per Isaiah 42 "a light to the Gentiles" and 49.
@@idworkhard The title reveals ignorance of history and theology - so "tongue in cheek" or not, any fool can put his tongue in his cheek and spout any garbage.
This is unrelated but something has been keeping me up at night... I keep coming across people saying that the story of Adam and Eve has been scientifically proven to be false and that would automatically negate Islam and the other abrahamic religions because it would mean that we all came from incest and we should all be disfigured and stuff. Apparently they proved it with biology or something. And apparently they also proved the story of Nuh AS is impossible too. There is a video on it on youtube. Could someone explain this to me??
Insightful . The Gospel of Matthew was the closest of Jesus teaching . He was crucified and resurrected with the help of his friends and his heavenly father according to extrateresstrial sources . Jesus is not an ordinary human . His biological father was from heaven .In ancient times ,those human that traveled from faraway heaven to earth was called god . Therefore Jesus claimed that he was a son of god is true . His mission to earth was to teach the universal law to earth inhabitants but his people and disciples had a hard time in understanding it . Jesus was known as king of travellers . He was a mysterious person .
Strange! While we are claiming that Jesus is a Muslim, because Muslim is defined as a person who submitted to the will of Allah (God), they cannot claim that Jesus is a Christian because Christianity does not exist before Paul.
Was Zoroaster a Muslim? He was submitting to one god, Ahura Mazda.
Tengku Mohd Affandi CLAIMS: "they cannot claim that Jesus is a Christian because Christianity does not exist before Paul"
Biodegradable Bill RESPONDS: Me dear Tengku Mohd Affandi, YOU are CLUELESS about Pai;! ACTS 11:26 "And the disciples were called CHRISTIANS FIRST in Antioch."
Paul had NEVER SET FOOT in Antioch before ACTS Chapter 11 and in ACTS Chapter 11 it was BARNABAS that was SENT by Jerusalem to teach the people in Antioch NOT Paul. So YOUR theory that "Christianity did NOT exist before Paul is PURE Black Rock Kissing NONSENSE!
@tombuddy100 if Ahura Mazda match all descriptions and attributes of Allah then....he COULD BE a muslim
@@michrohm Let's assume that Ahura Mazda has such descriptions and attributes. In that case, there was no reason for Persians to convert to Islam, since they had already been "Muslims"
@@SundayBeastz WHY JESUS DISCIPLES NEVER CALL CHRISTIAN FRONT OF JESUS???MATT 5:17,WHO JESUS FOLLOW ACTUALLY,MOSES,AND HOW JESUS KNOW ABOUT MOSES PRAY,AND JESUS DO THE SAME PRAY LIKE MOSES...DID MOSES CHRISTIAN TOO..😀😀HOW ABOUT ABRAHAM,CHRISTIAN TOO..BUT ABRAHAM PRAY SAME LIKE JESUS,ISAIAH 60:3-7,DO YOU DO FESTIVAL LIKE MUSLIM DO..IF NOT,THAT MEAN YOU ARE UNDER WRONG FAITH..AND FAITH WITHOUT WORK..😀😀
Q 17:81 And say, “Truth has come and falsehood has vanished. Falsehood is surely bound to vanish.”
Alhamdulillah for islam
Yes sir 💯🙌
Why holes in the quranic narrative are visible more prominently.... Or haddis are being destroyed as weak🙃
@@J-DUDE- what is your logic everything muslim says is true and everything others say is false🙃
@Let Me Talk for quran all manuscripts point inly to 8th century... Surprisingly haufsa copy, 5/ 7 uttman copies which were sent to different places are missing without even a mild trace.... Ie., no original to verify according to scholarship.
We know uttman had copies and haufsa had a written copy but not found till date. Islamic text reliabilitis based on single source ie., Mohammed... The original single source is lost/ destroyed by uttman and company or missing.
Christian source of preservation is diverse source... New testament has 27 books to talk bout Jesus divinity. If 20 books are lost still 7 will prove it.
Bible is a compilation of many books by different authors. New testament is not dictation book by God. So not verbatim by verbatim. It is narration by different authors and we believe in inspiration, but individual writes using his language, style of writing, ... So we have different compilers and writers,...
But all writers are clear about Jesus divinity... And scholarship accepts it. That is why Christians have no problem with some Bible having extra books in its compilation.
It is for Muslim the believe
1."every prophet a book"
2. Allah dictates "so verbatim by verbatim" So no change is possible and only Arabic etc.
3. So for you original is important because you believe in "only Mohammed" for quran and haddis.
4. All original manuscript and first written quran lost or destroyed purposely and hence scholarship have difficulty to check or verify verbatim by verbatim same or not.
5. Injeel introduced by Muslim and claimed dro be lost without a trace...
6. Allah protects and copy is available in heaven.
7. Many abrogations are done in haddis
8. Many sahih haddis are getting knocked out by Muslim scholarship of 21 th century.
9. Preservation of quran and haddis were done only by Muslims under kings so how it got lost?
10. Chain of narration is by arabs, and haufs quran is perfect but haufs is a lier🙃 and his haddis is rejected.
11. Contradictions in text...like sun setting, adult breast suckling, 4 wives for men, creation and order, jazia, fight till the last days, pretend to be a friend with Jews and Christian, apostasy punishment, claiming no sacrifice is possible but instead of Jesus someone like Jesus got crucified, satanic versus, etc...
12.Scholarship is after these kind of controversies of Islamic text
Your criteria asre applicable only to Islamic text ours is different.... Because both have different philosophy when we talk about nature of preservation.
In Christianity we don't have that criteria.., everyone knows there are minor changes in number of books or different manuscript available.... This is because many independent sources and each author write what information he was having.... Hence now scholarship has lot of source to check and cross check the divinity of Jesus and majority of them accept it.
Our preservation perfectly matches our belief and scholarship....
Your preservation perfectly matches Islamic belief but not scholarship....
So problem in validity and reliability. ... And scholarship is now digging deep and found "the holes in the narrative" - Yasir Quadi
In other words we don't claim audio recording of the text to have same script... Different writers and have different script but the story remains the same.
You claim audio recording of your text. Single source Mohammed so source is necessary without which no way to verify.
And the surprise is Calif uttman burnt manuscript... Why? Absolutely needed in this context, how can Mohammed verified text be burnt by a Muslim cailf.. How?
All originals gone like injeel. And even now many qurans.... Haufs and walsh are not same...
@@bbccnn8836 @bbc ccn lets talk about issues you have raised
-the divinity of jesus
-the authenticity of Quran
-the contradictions in quran due to abrogations in the hadiths
-the verbatim of quran
-the polygamous nature of islam
-the strive/jihad/fight to the end concept
-the corruption of scriptures books before Quran
-the validity and reliability of these scriptures
-ancient manuscripts and the list goes on and on.......
You are doing a great job Paul. You bring the smartest scholars all the time. I'm on my way to becoming a Muslim scholar n bible. I even quit my career at 28 to focus on scholarship.
Oh wow really
@@Fahad-gf1wx yup. The purpose of life is to spread the truth about God.
The Almighty Allah increase your knowledge and protect you and your family
You may continue pursuing your career as well.
The Messenger's companions continued Their profession along with jihad and acquired ilm as well.
@@iqbalhussain5352 no, if u fight for Allah...he will give U everything in this world n the afterlife....Allah makes everything happen
Paul might I suggest you make a website too, so after you, may you live a long life, people can still benefit from your videos if youtube decides to take it down.
bloggingtheology.com/
@@BloggingTheology This website is very chaotic and not neatly organized. I suggest making a completely new website with only useful content from your past endeavors and all TH-cam videos.
@@hassanmirza2392 Define 'useful content'.
@@BloggingTheology whatever you think is useful. Depends on what you want. But website design needs a more professional makeover.
Good idea brother, give him helping hand . If you know how to , or a friend knows so either by brain or by money . I will help by money as much as I can . See if br paul will like. First make design and content suggestions and if approved by br paul let us help build it .
The work of Br Paul should be UNIVERSAL and revolutionising . Inshallah. The other PAUL muddled the message of JESUS our br PAUL is straightening CHRISTIANITY after 20 centuries . May Allah make him successful .
I think br Pauls interviews to translated to all important languages of world. Russian , Chinese and German etec etc inshallah.
This is very clear that, GOD THE ALMIGHTY IS ONE. That’s the truth of the matter.
yes yes yes yes
@@hkhj139
Are you agreeing or being sarcastic ?
Brilliant interview Paul and an insightful session with Professor Barrie Wilson....may I suggest Paul, that you start using timestamps on your videos, it would be really beneficial for your viewers, I hope.
Great idea!
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A very interesting, informative and useful interview. I very much enjoy learning from such discussions. Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
How did I miss this! Fascinating. Getting the book today. God bless you both!
What I gathered from all that is Jesus never came up with a new religion called Christianity he came to simply to correct the ways of those went astray and to give them the good news.
Me dear hope, What YOU have gathered from all this is WRONG.. Jesus Christ came to save YOU FROM your SINS! YOU might like to ACTUALLY read the Glorious Holy Bible instead of WASTING your TIME watching worthless black rock kissing TH-cam Videos.
MATTHEW 1:21 And she shall bring forth a SON and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall SAVE his people FROM their SINS.
@@SundayBeastz dear bill, we muslims truly love jesus more than christians do.....He came as a messenger of Allah to spread the truth,to worship only one God and save themselves from hell.....
Jesus was going to be crusified because he claimed he was the Messiah to the Jews, but he didn't fit there prophecy;
Allah, clearly states in the Quran,
"Remember when I protected you from the children of Israel when you came to them with clear proof, but the disbelievers amoug them said "this is nothing but clear magic".
Since the Jewish people were familiar with magic at there time in Babylon, they rejected him as the meissah thinking his a fraud as he didn't fit there prophecy, that's why he was 'going' to get crusified. Then God, raised him up before getting crusified.
" Save HIS people from the sins" this doesn't mean he is god . He came to certain people, lost sheep of Jews , to save them from their religious hypocrisy and get them to the right way to God .
@@SundayBeastz
Quran, The Heifer, 2:174-177
174. Those who conceal what Allah revealed in the Book, and exchange it for a small price-those swallow nothing but fire into their bellies. And Allah will not speak to them on the Day of Resurrection, nor will He purify them, and they will have a painful punishment.
175. It is they who exchange guidance for error, and forgiveness for punishment. But why do they insist on the Fire?
176. That is because Allah has revealed the Book in truth; and those who differ about the Book are in deep discord.
177. Righteousness does not consist of turning your faces towards the East and the West. But righteous is he who believes in Allah, and the Last Day, and the angels, and the Scripture, and the prophets. Who gives money, though dear, to near relatives, and orphans, and the needy, and the homeless, and the beggars, and for the freeing of slaves; those who perform the prayers, and pay the obligatory charity, and fulfill their promise when they promise, and patiently persevere in the face of persecution, hardship, and in the time of conflict. These are the sincere; these are the pious.
I'm very thankful for the job you doing Paul.
"easy religion"! Paul offered a religion with no 'baggage'! This is the single most significant sentence Mr Wilson spoke! Simply accept Christ as saviour and dump all your sins on Christ's tab! Terrific! just so convenient, I mean how can Judaism or islam compete with that? absolute delusion...
That is a gross simplification & indicates you do not actually understand the position you’re criticizing.
@@tripp8833 excuse me? Just what position is this? İs it not a fact that Christ paid for... infact according to doctrine was crucified for the sins of man? You people are unbelievable!
@@adnankaba3372 The fact that Jesus died for our sins “dump all your sins on Jesus’ tab” ….. but this is to deliver us from sin ….. that we might live pure, holy lives that are pleasing God!
@@adnankaba3372 Very well said
@@banzakidimye348 The issue here is responsibility! What difference do your excuses make? Here's a scenario for you to contemplate...a 'child molesting priest' who accepted Christ as his saviour is seen by his innocent victims as he is walking hand in hand with 'Christ' in the garden (paradise) so the horrified kids start pleading with Christ...'O Christ our lord... how can this monster be in here with us? Don't you know what he did to us? So...tell me sir
İn your opinion, how would Christ respond to this? & By the way the same applies to a Muslim impostor imam if he were to commit the same hideous crime. The issue here is responsibility...& Logic.
A very interesting and thought provoking discussion, both of you discussed such deep topics concisely and clearly so even a lay person like me enjoyed and understood the material. Thank you
Glad you enjoyed it!
مَثَلَ عِيسَىٰ عِندَ اللَّهِ كَمَثَلِ آدَمَ ۖ خَلَقَهُ مِن تُرَابٍ ثُمَّ قَالَ لَهُ كُن فَيَكُونُ (ال عمران 59)
Verily, the likeness of Issa (Jesus) before Allah is the likeness of Adam He created him( Adam ) from dust, then He said to him (Adam) : Be and he was.
Quran, Chapter 3 verse no 59
Really great video brother Paul!! Im wondering if in the future you would do a video on Jewish Hellenism? It would really great to learn more! Thank you so much again brother Paul!!
Yes I'd like to see such too. Because I think Jesus grew up surrounded by "Jewish Hellenism". I wonder though what scholar/historian should we invite?
Jesus was neither catolic nor protestant, nor did he found a church
Exactly 💯🙌
@@seekthetruthandthetruthwil2388 Which "Holy Spirit" is "true"? The Catholic "Holy Spirit"? The Baptist "Holy Spirit"? The Methodist "Holy Spirit"? The Pentecostal "Holy Spirit"? The Episcopalian "Holy Spirit"? The Unitarian "Holy Spirit"? The Jehovah's Witness' "Holy Spirit"? Which one?
According to Christian creed "Holy Spirit" is 100% "God", and as such God does not contradict Himself. But these different sects of christianity have some differences in their core doctrines that contradict each other and they all claim to be "guided" by the "Holy Spirit" in determining their beliefs. So all of their "Holy Spirit" cannot be the true "Holy Spirit", only one of them is true and the rest are fake.
SO, WHICH SECT'S "HOLY SPIRIT" IS TRUE? AND WHICH ONES ARE FAKE holy spirits?
@@ashokaagniashokaagni1876 hadoukeen..😅
I always maintained this, if yeshua existed e was not a christian, enever built a church, never collected tithes, never wrote or compiled a holeybook.
@@seekthetruthandthetruthwil2388 You did not answer my question.
Which sect of Christianity has the "true" Holy Spirit? And which ones are the fake "Holy Spirit"?
There is a book called "blasting the foundations of atheism" by abulfeda ibn masoud.One of the best books against atheism
Salam Paul,
I recently found your youtube channel, and I've been binge watching since. You have outstanding view points, topics, discussions, and guests. For that, I thank you.
I highly recommend you to look into the works of the Moroccan philosopher Abdurrahman Taha. A good intro in english to this would be the book "Reforming Modernity:
Ethics and the New Human in the Philosophy of Abdurrahman Taha" by the world renown Wael B. Hallaq. And even better, if you can get one of Abdurrahman Taha's students on your show that would be amazing.
Regards,
A brother
Salam and many thanks!
his name is essa son of saint Maryam blessed and he is a messenger of God almighty blessed .
Peace and blessings be upon all prophets ..🌺🌹
Thanks, Brother Paul. Hope more people will come to the truth.
Not to mention a huge thanks to Professor Wilson too, for his deeply insightful frank discourse.
After watching the above video and reading the depth of comments from this section,they SURE do brother !!!!! They suuuuurrre do !!
My humble request to all please watch one more discussion related to this topic.
First generations of Christians in History - Dr. Steve Mason, but on different channel.
Fantastoc session gentlemen, really learnt alot. Thank you
More content with Dr. Wilson please.❤
Very educational video again, jazakum Alaahou Khairan brother Paul.
Hello brother Paul. Could you do a session with Dr Omar Zaid. He is an American revert. He has vast experience and knowledge on pagan origins of Christianity
Can u interview sheihk uthman faruq? From the onemessagefoundation channel...I wish guys like ahmed deedat were alive today so u can interview them.
Thanks Brother Paul for your usual informative stream with intellectuals.
This stream on your end was not the best. I hope you fix that for future discussions.
May Allah bless you and your efforts to educate us.
Yes, it was not very clear for some reason!
@@BloggingTheology It came through "loud and clear" at my end.
Amazing and Brilliant !!!
Dear Paul may God admit you into the highest rank of paradise.
Your follow from a far.
fascinating- Jazakh Allah khair
Good discussion. Had to check the Bible learned more.
Gained a lot of new information regarding the true companions of Jesus after his “crucifiction”.
It was one of the younger disciples who volunteered to take Jesus's place on the crucifixion!
Thank to this channel
Mr Paul williams . thank you .
@50:50 prof Wilson says: "they couldn't stay together they couldn't eat together...", can you please explain? Thanks 👍 ...awesome interview! greetings from Rome.
It seems yet again that an honest exploration of evidence is leading toward a picture of Christ and his teachings which confirm the Islamic understanding.
I disagree. But then I'm not a believer in Islam. I do think we have to inquire of the knowledge of various scholars. I respect how you feel and I need myself to seek "an honest exploration of evidence". But first I have to define for myself what "evidence" means.
Peace to you....
@@johnbrzykcy3076 Thank you for your thoughtful and respectful response. I completely agree with continuously seeking knowledge, and certainly not all Christian scholars would conclude the same as the current guest, but it is interesting that the majority, if not all, of the esteemed Biblical scholars on this channel seem to lean more toward an Islamic view rather than a Trinitarian/ credal Christian one.
The epistle of James is very Islamic in its content, and the words attributed to Christ in the Gospels can almost all be seen in conformance with the Islamic understanding ( some much more readily than others, certainly).
May we all be led closer to the Truth.
@@quixoticmelancholic7141 Thanks so much for your civil reply to me. I like where you say that "the epistle of James is very Islamic in it's content". The reason I like your comment is because I think James is also strongly communicating the truth of Jesus' teachings regarding "faith". And as a Christian, I struggle to understand "faith." So I need to read James again. To me, "faith" and "works" should always go together.
How do you see the "words attributed to Christ" as almost "in conformance with Islamic understanding"? Do you mean when Jesus talks about God?
I appreciate your time. PEACE to you....
@@johnbrzykcy3076 I believe what he is trying to say is that Jesus(PBUH) preached the same message that Islam teaches. Muslims have already been aware of this because the Quran says that the injil(You would call it the gospel) revealed to Jesus(PBUH) & preached by Jesus; is true and that every Muslim should believe it.
Today’s Christianity has gone away from the true message of Jesus(PBUH) they’ve diluted their minds with the belief that Jesus(PBUH) is God & the existence of a Trinity. These are grave mistakes made by many Christians.
Inshallah Allah will guide you back to the straight path & to the Truth🙏🏾
@@johnbrzykcy3076 Certainly when he spoke about God (though the term "Father" is never used in Islam, the attribute of Rabb subsumes it), but in almost every other instance as well. When he calls himself a prophet; when he makes it clear it is through God's power, not his own, that he does miracles; when he teaches that forgiveness comes from repentance (the Prodigal Son), and forgiving others (The Parable of the Unmerciful Servant); when he teaches that sincere love of God is worlds away from hypocritical, carping "obedience"; how those who believe AND do righteous deeds will inherit eternal life (the parable of the goats and the sheep), and so on. Compare the Lord's Prayer with Sura Al-Fatihah- I can't imagine any sincere Christian or Muslim finding any issue with accepting both.
Very informative
This is so interesting.
The first thing that comes to my mind is the interaction between what Jesus referred to in Matthew 23:23 and the point made in Micah 6:7 and 6:8. Is it reasonable to understand, when one reads these together Jesus, by referring to the " the more important matters of the law-justice, mercy and faithfulness" set out in Micah 6:8, that he also aligns himself to the question in Micah 6:7 which Micah 6:8 is answering? i.e. "...7 Shall I offer my firstborn for my transgression,
the fruit of my body for the sin of my soul?
8 He has shown you, O mortal, what is good.
And what does the Lord require of you?
To act justly and to love mercy
and to walk humbly[a] with your God."
Is this not a clear indication that Jesus aligned himself with the view that God does not require the sacrifice of first born sons for the forgiveness of sins?
The second thing that comes to mind is the content of 1 Samuel 8:7. " And the Lord said unto Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them." Was Jesus not then, by telling the 'lost sheep of Israel' that they should seek the kingdom of God, simply calling them to return to God that He may reign over them? This would imply that Jesus was calling them to return to God's existing kingdom rather than establishing an entirely new one in the future. After all if Psalm 110 says the messiah will be a priest forever in the order of Melchisidek, and Melchisidek was the priest-king who 'admitted' Abraham into God's preceding domain, then to me it makes sense that the Kingdom of God is a long standing entity in which Jesus plays a major role rather than an entirely new one yet to be established. Does this not then clarify why Jesus spoke in the present tense to his audience about the Kingdom of God?
I just bought the book. Amazon should thank you or give you some Amazon stocks :)
stop bying demon inspired book of lies and think for yourself . the "professor said that jesus was a copie of pagan myth taking the exemple of mithra and said that mithra died and rose again like jesus . it's false mithra never died according to the pagan myth of mithra. so mithra never rose again neither . you peoples believe anything really. you have thousands of books of lies it's not because a new book is released that you have to buy it.
@@godhasgivenussalvationinth5223 I don't think I'll be reading the book by this scholar but I would not go so far as to say it is a "demon inspired book of lies". I would say rather the book is probably the worldview of this scholar based on how he understands Christianity ( which is differently from how I view Christianity ).
But I still respect this scholars knowledge even if I disagree with some statements that he makes. I'm no scholar therefore I need a scholar. Jesus was the Greatest scholar !!
God bless
@@johnbrzykcy3076 the guy said that mithra died and rose again like jesus. mithra never died according to the story of mithra and therefore didnt rose again neither. to tell thoses kind of lies it's a joke . he said that the gospel of mark does not talk about the crusifixion and the resurection , it's a joke , everybody is a scholar today you just have to go through some classes where you will be taught an antichrist view of the bibe, christianity , lies about the message of the bible ext... and then you gain the title "scholar" . satan got pretty much all the education system under his control: schools,universities, colleges ext... so anybody that goes to thoses classes and formations to search for the truth have no idea what they are doing.
@@johnbrzykcy3076 Continue to reject truth and keep on dreaming and in the end disagreeing.
@@wiseguy8342 I never said that I "reject truth." Where do you get that idea?
PEACE
JazakAllah Khair Paul
Very nice discussion
everytime Mr Paul makes a video it's an illumination
Is this James the same one noted in I Cor. 15 and the Council of Acts 15?
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I really agree strongly with the views of this scholar (Barrie Wilson). To me, Jesus was a very admirable figure, while Paul was a usurper who bears much of the responsibility for two millennia of "Christian" anti-semitism.
Hy dear Paul. I really enjoy your content. Extremely interesting and it makes me think. Are you Muslim? I love it how you use your knowledge to bring the truth to the World. Please keep going. The World is in need of you.
Aslm brother Paul. Beautiful discussion Mr Barrie Wilson confirmed what Dr Ali atai said about paul the wolf....
Br. Paul, the audio is not too good. Too much echo.
salam Alaykoum. Please, are there any books like this one but in the spanish langage ? thanks.
Brother Paul please add the link in description of other books reviewing episode especially Jesus Dynasty and Islam, James the brother of Jesus, unity and diversity in the new testament.
The bit about the visions becoming a big thing was prophesied by Joel. The two biggest groups coming to Jesus today through dreams and visions that I hear about are Muslims and Jews, not Catholics or westerners.
Was it Paul who made Jesus divine or council of necaea, then they put words into Paul's mouth ?
You know who is missing on this show?
Bart D Ehrman.
He asked for 5000 dollars fee
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who told you that?
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Brother Paul mentioned in one of his video.
@@saj638
I didn’t expect that from him. Oh well, no need then.
definitely he is loadiiiiiiiiiiiiing
i hope bro paul seeees this
II Corinthians 11.13-15 (minute 18:20-18:31) does not mention James. There is no reason from that passage to think that Paul would have considered James to be a false apostle, at least not that I can see. I may be confused because there are more than two James-named early followers of Jesus. Was the James in question a Judaizer who insisted that the Gentiles be circumcised in order to follow Christ? If James took that position for a time, did he still take that position after the council of Acts 15? "Purified their hearts by faith" sounds like the fulfillment of the new covenant prophesied in Deut. 30.6, which Paul writes of in Romans 2.29, Colossians 2.11-12. Ezekiel 44.6 makes mention of the two circumcisions - the one of the flesh seems to foreshadow the one of the heart. The Hebrew Scriptures say that both are necessary, but they point to a new covenant hashem will establish (Jeremiah 31.31-34) which will be open to all nations, beginning with Israel. God is not going to stop with being the God of one nation; He will not rest until all nations acknowledge him. See the book Hidden but Now Revealed (Mystery) by Gladd and Beale, which unwraps the bits about how the Hebrew Scriptures foretold a time of waiting between the first and second Messianic coming, and how the Hebrew Scriptures foretold a day when Gentiles would be included, even as the gods of the Gentiles would be destroyed. Not only was Israel to be redeemed from idolatry, but all the nations as well.
Hey Paul... although I disagree with some of the statements by this scholar, I do find them thought-provoking. Therefore if I ponder the scholar's words, they should challenge me to study and understand better the teachings of Jesus. Thanks
Allah the one and only true eternal god says:
(33. God chose Adam, and Noah, and the family of Abraham, and the family of Imran, over all mankind.
34. Offspring one of the other. God is Hearer and Knower.
35. The wife of Imran said, “My Lord, I have vowed to You what is in my womb, dedicated, so accept from me; You are the Hearer and Knower.”
36. And when she delivered her, she said, “My Lord, I have delivered a female,” and God was well aware of what she has delivered, “and the male is not like the female, and I have named her Mary, and have commended her and her descendants to Your protection, from Satan the outcast.”
37. Her Lord accepted her with a gracious reception, and brought her a beautiful upbringing, and entrusted her to the care of Zechariah. Whenever Zechariah entered upon her in the sanctuary, he found her with provision. He said, “O Mary, where did you get this from?” She said, “It is from God; God provides to whom He wills without reckoning.”
38. Thereupon Zechariah prayed to his Lord; he said, “My Lord, bestow on me good offspring from Your presence; You are the Hearer of Prayers.”
39. Then the angels called out to him, as he stood praying in the sanctuary: “God gives you good news of John; confirming a Word from God, and honorable, and moral, and a prophet; one of the upright.”
40. He said, “My Lord, how will I have a son, when old age has overtaken me, and my wife is barren?” He said, “Even so, God does whatever He wills.”
41. He said, “My Lord, give me a sign.” He said, “Your sign is that you shall not speak to the people for three days, except by gestures. And remember your Lord much, and praise in the evening and the morning.”
42. The angels said, “O Mary, God has chosen you, and has purified you. He has chosen you over all the women of the world.
43. “O Mary, be devoted to your Lord, and bow down, and kneel with those who kneel.”
44. These are accounts from the Unseen, which We reveal to you. You were not with them when they cast their lots as to which of them would take charge of Mary; nor were you with them as they quarreled.
45. The Angels said, “O Mary, God gives you good news of a Word from Him. His name is the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, well-esteemed in this world and the next, and one of the nearest.
46. He will speak to the people from the crib, and in adulthood, and will be one of the righteous.”
47. She said, “My Lord, how can I have a child, when no man has touched me?” He said, “It will be so. God creates whatever He wills. To have anything done, He only says to it, ‘Be,’ and it is.”
48. And He will teach him the Scripture and wisdom, and the Torah and the Gospel.
49. A messenger to the Children of Israel: “I have come to you with a sign from your Lord. I make for you out of clay the figure of a bird; then I breathe into it, and it becomes a bird by God’s leave. And I heal the blind and the leprous, and I revive the dead, by God’s leave. And I inform you concerning what you eat, and what you store in your homes. In that is a sign for you, if you are believers.”
50. “And verifying what lies before me of the Torah, and to make lawful for you some of what was forbidden to you. I have come to you with a sign from your Lord; so fear God, and obey me.”
51. “God is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him. That is a straight path.”
52. When Jesus sensed disbelief on their part, he said, “Who are my allies towards God?” The disciples said, “We are God’s allies; we have believed in God, and bear witness that we submit.”
53. “Our Lord, we have believed in what You have revealed, and we have followed the Messenger, so count us among the witnesses.”
54. They planned, and God planned; but God is the Best of planners.
55. God said, “O Jesus, I am terminating your life, and raising you to Me, and clearing you of those who disbelieve. And I will make those who follow you superior to those who disbelieve, until the Day of Resurrection. Then to Me is your return; then I will judge between you regarding what you were disputing.
56. As for those who disbelieve, I will punish them with a severe punishment, in this world and the next, and they will have no helpers.
57. And as for those who believe and do good works, He will give them their rewards in full. God does not love the unjust.”
58. This is what We recite to you of the Verses and the Wise Reminder.
59. The likeness of Jesus in God’s sight is that of Adam: He created him from dust, then said to him, “Be,” and he was.
60. The truth is from your Lord, so do not be of those who doubt.
61. And if anyone disputes with you about him, after the knowledge that has come to you, say, “Come, let us call our children and your children, and our women and your women, and ourselves and yourselves, and let us invoke God’s curse on the liars.”
62. This is the narrative of truth: there is no god but God. God is the Mighty, the Wise.
63. But if they turn away-God knows the corrupt.
64. Say, “O People of the Book, come to terms common between us and you: that we worship none but God, and that we associate nothing with Him, and that none of us takes others as lords besides God.” And if they turn away, say, “Bear witness that we have submitted.” )
sourate 3 al-imran (family of imran) ayah 33 to 64
@@seekthetruthandthetruthwil2388 You have to understand that every living man or woman is the child of Adam and Eve (peace be upon them both) and also the child of Noah (peace be upon him)
Allah the one and only true eternal god revealed to his last prophet Muhammed (peace be upon him) in the last book the holy quran this:
(13. O people! We created you from a male and a female, and made you races and tribes, that you may know one another. The best among you in the sight of God is the most righteous. God is All-Knowing, Well-Experienced.)
sourate 49 al-hujurat ayah13
Hey john remember me ..
Good luck with your studies 🌹🙏
Best regards your brother from egypt 🥰😍🌹🌺
How to study jesus the truth when the present day bible are compiled to matched the beliefs of the Christians as to the divinity of jesus....
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Allah is the one and only true eternal living god who had created his servant our father Adam, god says:
(30. When your Lord said to the angels, “I am placing a successor on earth.” They said, “Will You place in it someone who will cause corruption in it and shed blood, while we declare Your praises and sanctify You?” He said, “I know what you do not know.”
31. And He taught Adam the names, all of them; then he presented them to the angels, and said, “Tell Me the names of these, if you are sincere.”
32. They said, “Glory be to You! We have no knowledge except what You have taught us. It is you who are the Knowledgeable, the Wise.”
33. He said, “O Adam, tell them their names.” And when he told them their names, He said, “Did I not tell you that I know the secrets of the heavens and the earth, and that I know what you reveal and what you conceal?”
34. And We said to the angels, “Bow down to Adam.” They bowed down, except for Satan. He refused, was arrogant, and was one of the disbelievers.
35. We said, “O Adam, inhabit the Garden, you and your spouse, and eat from it freely as you please, but do not approach this tree, lest you become wrongdoers.”
36. But Satan caused them to slip from it, and caused them to depart the state they were in. We said, “Go down, some of you enemies of one another. And you will have residence on earth, and enjoyment for a while.”
37. Then Adam received words from his Lord, so He relented towards him. He is the Relenting, the Merciful.
38. We said, “Go down from it, all of you. Yet whenever guidance comes to you from Me, then whoever follows My guidance-they have nothing to fear, nor shall they grieve.
39. But as for those who disbelieve and reject Our signs-these are the inmates of the Fire-wherein they will remain forever.”)
sourate 2 al-baqarah (the heifer) ayah 30 to 39
I bought this book maybe 10 years ago.
But what did you think about the book?
@@johnbrzykcy3076 was good from what I remember. Pretty much told us what most scholar have always been saying. Pauline churchinaity is very different too what the original church of Jesus followed
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Audio from your end wasn’t perfect but I enjoyed it.
We are to emulate truth and righteousness
Luke 22:34
Jesus said, “I tell you, Peter, the rooster will not crow this day, until you deny three times that you know me.”
John 13:11
For He knew the one who was betraying Him; for this reason He said, “Not all of you are clean.”
How did paul preached other places/country when there were no means of transport?a bit curious 🤨
I just don’t know how many more proofs a person needs against the deity of christ. The volume of detailed information that shows the NT is a disjointed contradictory muddy text is immense.
Allah says,"Is one who worships devoutly during the hour of the night prostrating himself or standing ( in adoration ) , who takes heed of the Hereafter , and who places his hope in the Mercy of his Lord - ( like one who does not ) ? Say : " Are those equal , those who know and those who do not know ? It is those who are endued with understanding that receive admonition . Say : " O ye my servants who believe ! Fear your Lord , good is ( the reward ) for those who do good in this world . Spacious is Allah.s earth ! those who patiently persevere will truly receive a reward without measure ! ami ("Surah-Jumar)Al Quran
There is a reason why God allowed Jerusalem and the temple to be destroyed 40 years after Jesus's crucifixion.
40 is the number of judgment....
God knows best
but it was not Jesus that had been crucified
@@mohamedsmaili297, that is exactly what satan would like everyone to believe.
The moment Jesus died without sin was the very moment satan's claim on man was destroyed. Without his sinless death, there were no reason for his virgin birth neither his manifestation in flesh...
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Allah who is called "Dieu=Dio=Deus" is the one and only true eternal living God who had elevated his servant and prophet the messiah Jesus son of Mary (peace be upon them both) to him, in the holy Quran God says:
(156. And for their faithlessness, and their saying against Mary a monstrous slander.
157. And for their saying, “We have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the Messenger of God.” In fact, they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him, but it appeared to them as if they did. Indeed, those who differ about him are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it, except the following of assumptions. Certainly, they did not kill him.
158. Rather, God raised him up to Himself. God is Mighty and Wise.)
sourate 4 an-nisa ayah 156 to 158
@@andrevisser7542 of jesus took everyone sin the he became the most sinful person on earth so therfore he was not sinless, also according to Christianity everyone is born with sin also why did he baptised also when a person called jesus good teacher he responded don't call me good, no one is good accept God.
بارك الله فيك 🌹
Great discussion Mr. Williams!!! Just a little problem with the audio from your side. Quite a bit of echoing.
I don't think the person of jesus is being treated with the respect due to him. His teachings was to love God with all youy soul yout mind your strength and love your neighbour. He said love your enemy. Pray for him who despite fully uses you. How can anyone find fault with these teachings other than that they are si difficult to put into practice.
"The impact of what Paul did was to deprive Jesus of any kind of Jewish stature." Wow... interesting. I have not studied Paul's writings very much. I think the Jewish background of Jesus is very important. I do think Jesus came to reveal God's love for everyone, including people of other religions. I know that Paul's "theology" is somewhat confusing. But disregarding the way that we perceive Paul's words, Jesus' own teachings were grounded in Judaism and hopefully cannot be seen as any "fundamental attack upon the basic character of the Jewish religion".
I appreciate the scholar's views regarding Paul. But to say " none of it comes through ever, in his letters" ( in reference to Saint Paul's understanding of Jesus ) is hard for me to swallow and accept.
Peace....
It hard for YOU to swallow and accept because YOUR false faith collapses with that. The E.V.I.L fruits of Paul of the Bible.
*BY THE FRUITS YE SHALL KNOW THEM*
No wonder Jesus foretold and WARNED.
Thanks to Saul aka Paul the Feroci0us W0LF in SHEEP'S clothing whom Jesus WARNED about, it's Christianity / Christians making a 🚩 *LIAR of Jesus Christ* till the end of times.
1)
✔️ Jesus: THE FATHER IS THE ONLY TRUE GOD.
✖️ Christians: NO. The Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit (The Trinity) is the true God.
2)
✔️Jesus: NO payment needed, NO Jesus died for us. Just repent sincerely and the Merciful God (THE ONLY TRUE GOD - THE FATHER) forgives.
✖️ Christians: NO. Salvation comes by the blood of Jesus and his dying on the cross
3)
✔️ Jesus: Keep the Laws and the commandments if you want eternal life
✖️ Christians: NO. Eternal life comes by faith in the sacrifice of Jesus
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✔️ Jesus: Do NOT neglect even the smallest laws
✖️ Christians: NO. Those laws are unimportant
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✔️ Jesus: I was sent ONLY for the lost sheep of Israel
✖️ Christians: NO. Jesus came for us all, Jesus came for all of mankind
Peace.
There this video by Lawrence Kuhn in Closer To Truth in the project The Global Philosophy of Religion where he interviews Hamza Yusuf about Islam. You might find it illuminating.
Jesus spoke to Paul, of course, and sent him out as an apostle. Acts 26.17 Jesus says "I am sending you", and the word apostle refers to one who is sent.
Yes he was a Muslim in Islam
Was Zoroaster a Muslim? He was submitting to one god, Ahura Mazda.
Also, if he and later Persians were already Muslims, why did they convert to Islam?
I have watched several of the videos posted on your channel. It seems odd to me that no one quotes Schillebeeckx. (For example, when you are talking about visions).
it's an irony that you will not find any Christian utter the Crystal Clear statements of Jesus Christ about himself and how He differentiate Himself from God Almighty, they even hate to heard from others.
No, you will. I utter the Crystal Clear statements of Jesus Christ about himself and how He differentiated Himself from God Almighty.
He said multiple times that his Father is greater than him, that we should worship the Father, the God Almighty, that he will return to the Father, etc.
My experience is that the more titles before the name, the less the understanding and knowledge about God and the spirit realm....
I tend to agree with you although I won't generalize in such a way. I do appreciate scholars, even if I often disagree with their statements, because often their worldviews and beliefs make me think. And I need to think better.
Thanks for sharing....
Speaking from a person with no title before (or after) their names?
Not to disrespect, academia is fundamental to ensure your beliefs are vetted and critiqued. Otherwise, it's nothing more than hearsay and magic books.
@@NsShadid, I surely don't disrespect people with a lot of titles to their names, they bring knowledge to all of us. All I'm saying is that it seems most of them don't have knowledge about the spirit realm and what happened or is happening there...
Don't you think there must be something fundamentally wrong with the administered layman's narrative if the more educated someone is, the more skeptical they become?
@@hassankassim8078, not at all what my comment is about, it is just a general observation and definitely not true for everyone.
Point is to get knowledge of the spirit realm, you have to get your spirit resurrected first and there is only one way to achieve that...
Something many learned people reject because there are no degrees to the names of the people who wrote the manual.
The millennial messianic Jewish community of minute 17:30 - 17:35 is inaugurated by Jesus to some degree at the first coming, but Jesus himself (Matthew 24.14, The parable of the sower, the Parable of the Wheat and Tares, etc.) and the Apostles (see II Peter 3:3-15, James 5:7--11 (two rains like the two comings and two appearances in Hosea 6:3 that James apparently alludes to), II Thes. 2 the beginning verses of the chapter, Revelation from Jesus to John 22.11 which is so much like David Gooding's explanation of Daniel's last few chapters (surrounding 12.10) ... all these testify to early Christians and Jesus himself recognizing that the first coming would not be the day of reaping and immediate judgement - separation of the righteous from the wicked - but instead there would be an undetermined passage of time before Jesus would send the angels to gather the harvest and then the judgement would come. It is at that time, after the judgement, that there would be the millennial messianic Jewish community, except that many Gentiles would be included as one with the righteous physical descendants of Jacob, as prophesied to Abraham and to / through so many other Hebrews in the Hebrew Scriptures.
barrie is saying anything different to Bart Ehrman or James Tabor who have spoken on this channel. paul is very clever with his questions. He knows full well that the apostle Paul doesn't have a scripture reference for dyeing in accordance with the scriptures but Paul williams pretends surprise at this. Still interesting and worth a listen. Dont misunderstand me, i like this channel.
This seems all new to Paul which I find interesting.
Assalamualaikum brother Paul I would like you to give us an insight religion wise and historically on Joseph/Yusaf a.s for some reason there is so much interest that I have on this subject because it's one of those historical things that I have been confused about according to Judaism Christianity and Islam does it all match or is it different and what's history take on it pls help understand this better thank you very much.
All prophets or messengers are teaching Tauhid (oneness of God, non idolatry) or Islam since the beginning until the End !!!
Great 👍🏾
Paul the apostle bases his theology on Moses and the prophets. Isaiah 53:7-12 speak of a dying and rising Messiah. But even if it hadn't been foretold, once Jesus rose from the dead, it was pretty much a given that the resurrection was the work of God, which vindicated Jesus' claims to have been the holy one, and not the cursed pretender that the crucifixion events made Jesus look like. Once God had performed the resurrection, the logical step in thinking was to go back and see how the prophets had foretold it in passages like Isaiah 53:7-12, or the story of Isaac coming off the altar, or how Jesus would be the firstfruits of what was prophesied in Daniel 12:2 and Exekiel's valley of dry bones in chapter 37, etc. God even expressed that he had the power to raise Israel from the dead in Hosea 13.14. Then there's Jonah coming out of the fish's belly, which Jesus himself referred to as a resurrection prophecy applicable to himself. In all these ways, what Paul was saying about Jesus were the same things that Jesus had said about himself, and that the prophets had foretold.
'Isaiah 53:7-12 speak of a dying and rising Messiah.' - Isaiah 53 never mentions a messiah, not even once.
@@BloggingTheology If we start at Isaiah 52:13, he is called "my servant" and it is announced that he would be raised up and highly exalted. 53:1 could be referring to this person as the arm of hashem (see 52.10 of Isaiah). I find convincing the arguments/explanations presented by Dr. Michael Brown and One for Israel, when it comes to how the servant is the Messiah. We see connections in the phrase "high and lifted up" with the enthroned one in Isaiah 6. The Gospel of John shows these two Isaiah passages interpreted as applying to Jesus. Again, beforehand, it may have been hard to understand the passage as Messianic, but once we historically see Jesus resurrected as vindication that He is the Messiah, and we see how Isaiah 53 speaks of Jesus, then we can see that Isaiah 53 is about the Messiah. I can only provide some of the support here, and this paragraph is already long, but I have directed you to where you can find pages of support.
Jesus was, is and ever shall be the CHRIST. Even Muslims believe this!
Different perspectives of the word "christ".
You define it to be the ever saving figure . We believe that he was a savior of the misled Jews of that time ,as he said.
A savior of all sins is a misleading idea that has no basis in Jesus's words. If that was true ,anyone who once believes in him as god and savior, should be in heaven on the spot . Why still suffering the ordeal of life.
I agree... the Christ who was the "anointed one" and the "suffering Messiah." But wait... Muslims don't believe that, right?
Christ , messiah, anointed one, maseeh ( in Arabic ) are equivalents but in different languages.
As for suffering, this is always a point of argument.
@@popcornagain7034 I agree with you. I dislike argument. Because the more I learn, the more I realize how much I don't know !!
@@johnbrzykcy3076
How many Messiah in YOUR Bible?
*MANY* ✔️
Jesus is *NO EXCEPTION* 🚩
Of course the NO Christian gave this knowledge to YOU in their lack of knowledge or DECEPTION
Bonus: "Messiah / "Christ" / "Anointed".
Even the pagan king is Messiah, pillar is Messiah, horn is Messiah, cherub is Messiah, priest is Messiah. Yes. In your Bible.
MESSIAH / CHRIST / ANOINTED: NOT A NAME
The word CHRIST is derived from the Hebrew word Messiah, Arabic -
Masih. Root word m-a-s-a-h-a, meaning to rub, to massage, to anoint.
Priests and kings were anointed when being consecrated to their offices. But
in its translated, Grecian form "CHRIST", it seems unique: befitting Jesus only.
What the Westerner wants do is to translate names into his own language like
"cephas" to Peter 1 , "messiah" to Christ. How ? Very easily.
MESSIAH in Hebrew means anointed. The Greek word for anointed is
"christos". Just lop off the 'os from christos and you are left with Christ.
Christos means ANOINTED, and anointed means
APPOINTED in its religious connotation. Jesus (pbuh) was appointed
(anointed) at his baptism by John the Baptist, as God's Messenger. Every
prophet of God is so anointed or appointed. The Holy Bible is replete with the appointed ones. In the original Hebrew - made a "messiah". Let us keep to
the English translation - "anointed." Not only were prophets and priests and even heathen kings anointed (christos-ed), but horns, and cherubs and lamp-posts also.
I am the God of Beth-el, where you ANOINTED a pillar ...
Genesis 31:13
If the priest that is ANOINTED do sin ...
Leviticus 4:3
And Moses. ..ANOINTED the tabernacle and all things that was therein...
Leviticus 8:10
...the Lord shall. ..exalt the horn of his ANOINTED.
1 Samuel 2:10
Thus saith the Lord to his ANOINTED to Cyrus... (Cyrus was a heathen, a pagan King. Even he is Christ)
Isaiah 45:1
Thou art the ANOINTED cherub...
Ezekiel 28:14
a hundred more such references in the Holy Bible. Every time you come across the word ANOINTED in your English Bible, you can take it that that word would be Christos in the Greek translations, and if you take the same liberty with the word that the Christians translators have done, you will have -
Christ Cherub, Christ Cyrus, Christ Priest and Christ Pillar, etc.
Please sir, if you make most of your videos translated into Arabic, your follower is from Jordan
Exodus 3:13 Then Moses said to God, “If I come to the people of Israel and say to them, ‘The God of your fathers has sent me to you,’ and they ask me, ‘What is his name?’ what shall I say to them?” 14 God said to Moses, “I AM who I AM.” And he said, “Say this to the people of Israel: ‘I AM has sent me to you.’” 15 God also said to Moses, “Say this to the people of Israel: ‘The Lord, the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you.’ This is MY NAME FOREVER, and thus I AM to be remembered throughout ALL GENERATIONS.
John 8:58 Jesus said to them, 'Verily, verily, I say to you, Before Abraham's coming -- I AM;'
Who is the father of James?
The religion that Jesus taught was Judaism, himself being the Jewish Messiah. It is a shame so many Christians got away from that, but with the huge number of Jewish people rejecting Jesus' kingship, it makes sense that the Gentiles would struggle keeping the Jewish perspective.
What about the similarities between the cult of Christianity and philosophy of ALEXANDRIA!
Hy bro i really want to have a da'wa discussion with you on da'wa.
There is a very simple explanation for the life of the life of Essa called Y'Esua, that fits both the Islamic belief and fulfills the Jewish scriptures.
One that confirms everything the scriptures said, but it doesn't work under a western christi-anity model that claims the Messiah is some godlike entity who saves the World from evil.
When people talk con-fusing words, this is exactly what they do.
They mix up one word meaning with another, meanings put together into a new mashed up contaminated concept that only dilutes the actual truth, turning it into an iconic style false doctrine that loses it proper place and meaning to be of Bene-fit to anyone.
By twisting the truth so that others can still believe in the players who are correct, but the game has been changed and no longer played correctly.
When Y'Esua said that he came to fulfill the scriptures, for the Jews, his claim that he was the enlightened one who by full-filling his destiny was a Prince of Peace prophesied as one of the true Princes (one who bring the right principles) of the true 12 blessed tribes of IsReal.
Not that fake Jewish group who falsely and arrogantly claim themselves the chosen people.
The truth tribes of Our Creator's people who really submitted to Allah's Will and followed the one straight path given for humanity.
Those leaders of this tribe who all stood out annointed and honoured by Our Creator to bring the exact messages they were asked to impart to humanity, but wererejected. Just as Our beloved Seal of these Prophets is now being rejected by humanity as it reaches its last end and all those who follow are also sealed finding their way back are finalized.
The Messiah was never or never claiming to being just one person, but the one true light, that all those annointed shone with.
One true message, that the many messengers were given.
Their messianic duty to show humanity the errors of their ways.
Then at the end, the Seal of the Prophets, One most lovely, sent to confirm this message, to close the book, to end a word that was sent from above.
All that remains is that time given, for those who would be born to come into existence, for them to see and acknowledge this message , change their direction, to look back up to where we really come from.
To see this truth Is Real.
This the true Place of Peace we are asked to walk towards in this life.
Still there, still accessible, still being de-scribed by the very same words that have always existed, imported into every language because of the important meaning they express.
To show those who are able to under-stand this higher straight path to take to reach up where we were all de-signed to get to. To overcome evil and live forever.
True Islam, The True Path of Peace.
live-evil
love-evolve
lived-devil
de-mon-straighting the true reason why we only deserve to be chained up, to be removed from that tree of life, of those who would given the power destroy life for our own ends. As has been proven by the outcome of our ugly human hi-story.
Those who failed to be what was asked of us, to be kind.
Human-kind.
Muslim and Christian claim that they both believe in Jesus.
🙏 *I CHALLENGE CHRISTIANS TO EXAMINE WHAT JESUS ACTUALLY TAUGHT (THE AUTHENTIC TEACHINGS OF JESUS).* 🙏
*HOW TO KNOW WHAT JESUS ACTUALLY TAUGHT (THE AUTHENTIC TEACHINGS OF JESUS) ?*
WE HAVE A GOOD WAY TO KNOW WHAT JESUS ACTUALLY TAUGHT (THE AUTHENTIC TEACHINGS OF JESUS)......AND THAT IS FROM “THE AUTHENTIC VERSES”……..THE VERSES THOSE AUTHENTIC FROM JESUS HIMSELF OR FROM “THE REAL DISCIPLES”.
OFF COURSE, WE DON’T WANT UN-AUTHENTHIC VERSES !!!
NOW LETS EXAMINE WHICH VERSES THOSE WERE AUTHENTIC FROM JESUS HIMSELF OR AT LEAST FROM “THE REAL DISCIPLES”.
I DON'T SAY THAT ALL VERSES IN "NOWDAY NEW TESTAMENT" ARE 100% AUTHENTIC OR 100% FAKE.
NOW, HOW TO KNOW WHICH VERSES THOSE WERE AUTHENTIC FROM JESUS HIM SELF OR FROM “THE REAL DISCIPLES” ?
OFF COURSE, WE NEED TO VALIDATE WHICH VERSES WERE AUTHENTIC AND WHICH VERSES WERE NOT.
THEN LETS VALIDATE EVERY SINGLE VERSE IF IT WAS AUTHENTIC OR NOT.
TO VALIDATE EVERY SINGLE VERSE, WE NEED TO EXAMINE TWO THINGS :
1). THE SOURCES CHAIN
2). THE CONTENT
LETS EXAMINE :
1). THE SOURCES CHAIN OF THE VERSE HAD TO BE CLEAR AND CREDIBLE.
EVERY SINGLE MAN OF THE NARATORS MUST BE CLEAR AND CREDIBLE
2). THE CONTENT OF THE VERSE HAD TOBE VERIFICATIONABLE IF IT WAS GOOD, STRANGE, CONTRADICTIVE OR ANYTHING.
NOW, LETS PICK ANY VERSE TO BE EXAMINED FIRST !!!
My opinion: Paul is Dajjal opostle, he learned how to corrupt the injil from him before dajjal was chained up in that tiny Island.
I think Paul planned with the Jews and pretended to be a beliver to destroy the teaching of jesus.
Anyone read this book 'Malfuzat' volume 1 sayings and discourses of Promised Messiah. Very interesting and eye opener.
Prof.Wilson you need to search about the lineage of Reum and Reul the founders of Roman empire.Did you know that they were the descendents of prophet Izaac pbuh..!? You have to discover the real reason of Jews' hatred of Romans and Roman emperors.That will decide the real reality of the roumors about the second coming of Jesus pbuh.
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The first Christian was Paulus. Poor Jesus was born a Jew, lived as a Jew, and died as a Jew. No Christianity at the first years after his death. Only Jews who believed in him who lived among ordinary Jews and prayed in the same Synagogues.
Just my opinion: I think Paul was successful in destroying what Jesus taught. Paul changed his tactics of persecution and even started his own religion calling it Christianity. Fooled so many
@🌜🚬 I agree with you 100% Makes no sense to me. I believe Jesus' teachings are still authentic and thought-provoking. And inspiring !
@🌜🚬 I think for those who believe Paul’s teaching it was successful. Also for those who saw through it and then turned their back on religion because of the inconsistencies they found in the bible. I find it sad because they now believe that all religions are like that. This is just my opinion based on my experience from what I’ve heard from my friends who are no longer Christian.
@@johnbrzykcy3076 agree
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Well there were are still are unitarian christians existing till this day. Some famous ones include Sir Tim Berners Lee (creator of Internet), Linus Pauling, Erasmus darwin (charles darwin father), John Locke, Boole, Isaac Newton, etc.
Also at the time, there are enough clues to show that Jesus half brother preached monotheism as well as Jesus disciples. All monotheists. Theres enough evidence in the bible to dissuade trinitarianism.
@@dom3073 Paul, the follower of Jesus, was not trinitarian. Why does anyone think he was trinitarian? He wrote no such thing. Some people unjustly accuse him of that.
Christ comes from the Greek word χριστός (chrīstós), meaning "anointed one". The word is derived from the Greek verb χρίω (chrī́ō), meaning "to anoint." In the Greek Septuagint, christos was used to translate the Hebrew מָשִׁיחַ (Mašíaḥ, messiah), meaning "[one who is] anointed".
Christians means Christ followers
If Jesus was a christian then he follow whom?
Your statement makes no sense. You said: "If Jesus was a christian then he follow whom?" >> You are confused! Jesus was a Jew, who recognised himself as the Messiah to prepare the Jewish people spiritually for the coming of the Son of Man (the Davidic Messiah). The Messiah followers were James, Peter, John and Paul and thousands of other Jews and later countless Gentiles, through Paul's obedience to Christ to take the gospel to the Gentiles as per Isaiah 42 "a light to the Gentiles" and 49.
If jesus was christian then he follow whom? Is that a question
The title is a tongue and cheek
@@idworkhard The title reveals ignorance of history and theology - so "tongue in cheek" or not, any fool can put his tongue in his cheek and spout any garbage.
Weird things are happening in Canada..The students are being burnt in residential schools subhan Allah..!
This is unrelated but something has been keeping me up at night... I keep coming across people saying that the story of Adam and Eve has been scientifically proven to be false and that would automatically negate Islam and the other abrahamic religions because it would mean that we all came from incest and we should all be disfigured and stuff. Apparently they proved it with biology or something. And apparently they also proved the story of Nuh AS is impossible too. There is a video on it on youtube.
Could someone explain this to me??
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Christianity that spread east of the Euphrates in the first two centuries was hardly modeled after Roman government, or not at all.
Jesus converted to Timothism after I seen him in 1985. Gospel of Timothy
Insightful . The Gospel of Matthew was the closest of Jesus teaching . He was crucified and resurrected with the help of his friends and his heavenly father according to extrateresstrial sources . Jesus is not an ordinary human . His biological father was from heaven .In ancient times ,those human that traveled from faraway heaven to earth was called god . Therefore Jesus claimed that he was a son of god is true . His mission to earth was to teach the universal law to earth inhabitants but his people and disciples had a hard time in understanding it . Jesus was known as king of travellers . He was a mysterious person .