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The only thing I’m upset about is the rise of price of the pro from 800$ to 1000$ …. Pro is the only iPad…. Just get old M1 Pro !!! Don’t be fooled !!! Don’t get iPad without 120 hz!!! Dosnt worth it, if you don’t have money or you are cheap, go for android
Even if you don’t own an iPad mini 6, the iPad mini 7 still isn’t worth buying unless you care about Apple Intelligence because outside of 8GB RAM and A17 pro chip there is nothing else that has changed. It’s literally the iPad mini 6 we’ve just those changes and not worth the money.
Not only did they not fix the display, but it is also using a year old chip when the 2021 used the current one. Feels like this was meant to release last year and was delayed for some reason.
@@Dmckdnsmssnsns yeah. They generally bin the chips in the iPad unless you get the top end pro models lol the chip in the mini 6 was binned lmao yall all acting like this is new
For speaker tests, don’t change it back and forth during the beats that the song is also changing. You should switch it in between the song changing sections so you can head the speakers playing the same bar of the song for a more accurate comparison
4:49 I truthfully cannot see any jelly scrolling on the 7 at all here. What are you referring to? Ghosting, sure, but that's a separate issue. If it's so slight that it doesn't even translate to video, in contrast to the 6 where it's very obvious, it's strange for the conclusion simply to be "it's still there". Based on the footage it appears to be either gone or almost gone.
It’s been the exact same capacity since the 5th generation. They just redesigned the mini in 2021 but still the same just like the iPad Air. No hardware changes just stuck in a new chipset.
I tried to make myself like my iPad Pro 11” so hard for over a year after always having an iPad mini before that… then they came out with the mini 6 and I “downgraded” to the mini 6 and gave the pro to my wife lol… 11” is just too damn big unless you use it on a table with a stand like a laptop
Just when you thought the iPhone 16 update was the worst, this one comes along. I get it, Apple doesn't have any formidable competition popularity-wise in the mini tablet field, but it has been THREE years. They could've at least given us 90hz refresh rate OR an OLED panel OR higher screen brightness OR bigger battery OR a small camera spec bump. Any one of those would have been a welcome addition, but then it's Apple, so...
@@Babynetta If they wanted to, they could've upped the specs more. But obviously the iPad mini sells. That's why they didn't discontinue it. And besides, incremental improvements is the name of the game. Acknowledging that won't make them change, but it doesn't invalidate such take. Be well.
The jelly scrolling was definitely way worse on the Mini 6. It’s definitely improved on the Mini 7 even though you still see it a little bit. And I also thought the speakers sounded better on the mini 7
@justinpelletier03 - On video is a bit more difficult to notice the jelly scrolling effect. If is still present, maybe is not to bother me as the Mini 6 that I skipped because of it. For me it was too much. About the speakers, I do too think the Mini 7 sounded slight better. I just wish it could have a better battery and at least a mini led display.
I tried in person at apple store today and I don’t see jelly scrolling a problem on landscape mode. It’s more so on portrait orientation, but not bad at all. The deal breaker for me is that the scrolling seems more laggy and choppy on the mini than on the ipad air.
I wish someone would measure the screen refresh rate. To me it looks like the ipad mini 7 is stuttering when scrolling. Wouldn't put it past Apple to be lowering the refresh rate when scrolling to make the jelly scrolling less visible.
@@sly2792004 People say that but I'm honestly a little baffled how that's the case. Maybe people only use it in landscape? In portrait it looks super obvious to me, hard to imagine people looking at it and not seeing anything.
Brian is an Apple fanboy if he say something about it, Apple will never speak to him again and also those in-person interviews he had with those executives will cease to happen again.
I had an iPad mini6 before I traded it for m4 11”. Never noticed any jelly scrollings but the main issue for me would be 60hz. I won’t go back to mini until they increase the refresh rate.
This is the only tablet that you can hold in one hand while half lying on the bed, and iCloud is available. This is the only one that can be linked to the iPhone in a size that fits horizontally in both hands as an adult male standard. I also know that OLED 120Hz is a pity. But there is no substitute. 8GB RAM, 128GB storage, Wifi6E, USB 3.2 Gen2 upgrade. I like lazy posture the most, and the iPad mini is actually the most frequently used. Now I'm going to retire the 5-year-old iPad mini 5.
Never had a mini. I think it’s a good product for me. Need a smaller device to use with my eDrums. The extra storage is definitely necessary. Great video!
Nice review! I have only two questions. 1. did apple upgrade the modem for the cellular version? 2. did battery life improve? Thanks! Considering to upgrade because I have the iPad mini 5 and I dislike the lightning port, single sided speakers, and the screen. I feel this iPad is a good upgrade for me.
I had the 256GB Mini 6 but I went with upgrading it to the Mini 7 for the higher RAM, 512GB option, future proofing and Apple Intelligence. I also managed to sell my Mini 6 for decent money and saved up some money I had and was able to purchase the 512gb mini (for half its price with the money I made off the Mini 6) which will be perfect for all my games, apps and storing all my photos. Personally, I'd only recommend upgrading if you want higher storage or want to take advantage of more RAM, Apple Intelligence and increased performances (both USB and A17 pro). Otherwise, both are practically the same and if your on budget, keep the Mini 6. If you don't have an iPad Mini and want to buy one, Mini 7 is awesome.
@ It does feel quite a bit snappier when scrolling or using the browser. The A17 Pro is a big bump in single core performance compared to the A15 in the Mini 6 and is better than that of the M2 iPad Air. The Mini 6 is still pretty fast though. Last time I used mine, i only really saw little lag but pretty consistent, fast performance but the new Mini definitely feels more snappier
Planning on getting the Mini with cellular and getting the smaller 16 Pro. Has anyone tried something similar like this combination? I just find the Pro Max too big. And planning to sell the iPad Air M1.
You currently own the Mini 6. If Loaded with cash. Buy the Mini 7 Else Keep the Mini 6 If you don't own any. Buy the Mini 7 If you want more savings. Buy the Mini 6 No changes in anything except you have to adopt the latest Pencil Pro and better CPU(?). Really disappointed that it is offered with a lower binned chip. Really was expecting at least A18 to be inside. The A17 "Pro" chip naming will definitely fool alot and really alot of people.
I had iPad Mini 6 since launch 2021, I originally wasn't going to buy the Mini 7 but decided to upgrade because I figured an upgrade after 3 years is worthwhile. I was also thinking who knows how long it will be before the next iPad Mini is launched since Apple included their AI on the Mini 7.
I am thinking the same thing. I also got the base model of the 2021 version so spring if 2025 ill be buying a mini 7 with more storage and keeping my 6 for out of the house since it’s also data compatible
I've been using a mini 6 since it released, perfect form factor, only issue is that I frequently exceed it's limit in freeform because it just does not have enough RAM, considering upgrading simply due to that. T-T
Coming from an ipad mini 5, this is a HUGE upgrade for me. Even if i was coming from the mini 6, you get a much faster chip and double the ram. Plus depending on who you speak with Apple either totally fixed or greatly minimized the jelly scroll issue. Yeah, a pro motion display with face ID & thinner bezels & 1,000 nits of brightness woulda been nice... but it's not the end of the world. I'm sure Apple will add those in the next update. But I'm not gonna wait another 3 yrs for that. I need to upgrade my ipad mini 5. I know you can pick up a mini 6 cheaper now, but as an artist, i really want Apple pencil pro support. Plus the 8 gigs of ram & faster chip will carry me thru the next 3 years until the ipad mini 8.
I’ve owned the 5 and upgraded and owned the 6 when it got released. I never thought it was ever slow 😂. And don’t even notice the jelly scroll. It’s been wonderful. And I’m not upgrading since it’s nots really much of an upgrade to me.
Current trade-in value up to $230, so reduced upgrade cost to $269? With a three year old battery (wish the Settings Battery app had health indication), getting 8GB RAM over 4GB, 128GB storage over 64GB (currently using ~50GB) I'm still on the fence. IF Mini 7 supported App;e Pencil 2 non-USB-C I probably would jump. Thoughts Max?
All the above plus fresh warranty led me to do this exact trade-in. I did not get Apple care, since I figure this will last until the next gen comes out 3 years from now.
I really like the iPad mini. You did not test the - to me most important thing. Battery-life of the small mini is the most annoying/limiting thing for me, not jelly-scrolling,… Any improvement there with e.g reduced power-consumption of the new chip during regular use (e.g. surfing, youtube) would be a major improvement.
Jelly Scrolling is a very minor issue. I had the iPad6, and couldn’t really see this unless I’m just trying to find it. In everyday use, it’s a non-issue. Transfer speed…while amazing improvement, the mini is a consumption device, not a creative device (and yes you can create on it, but the screen size alone will not make me reach for it over my MacBook). These Mini’s are amazing little devices for reading, note taking, and consuming content. I opted for the iPad5 because of my aging eyes, I prefer the larger screen for reading and note taking.
Well as far as upgrading- its really a question of whether its worth $270 or so. Because if we ipad 6 owners were to upgrade we would likely trade our mini 6 for it and right now the rate we would get for that is around $230. So we would be spending almost $300 to get these admittedly exciting upgrades in speed and usability. Is it worth spending $300 to upgrade for that boost of speed and performance? Idk!
I knew the iPad mini wasn’t going to get an OLED screen until at least 2026 or later. But I was hoping for a ProMotion display & Face ID in the mini 7. Even tho it didn’t get them, I am gonna buy the mini 7 for sure. It’s still a HUGE upgrade from my mini 5. Much Faster chip. Faster wifi & usbc. More internal storage and best of all, Apple Pencil Pro support. I’m an artist, and even tho my iPad Pro is my main content creation device, I always grab my iPad mini when I wanna travel light. It’s the perfect size digital sketchbook when on the go. It’s almost the same size as an A5 moleskin sketchbook which is a very popular sketchbook size for artists. I am gonna order a cellular iPad mini 7 in blue. Just trying to decide btwn the 256 & 512 gig model. Chances are the iPad mini won’t get another update for another 2 or 3 years again… so waiting for an OLED or pro motion display iPad mini with Face ID is not an option. I know the mini 7 will give me many years of creative productivity. ✍🏼
All I really want is Face ID. Otherwise it’s fine. Mean mini led or oled would be nice. I don’t see difference in frame rate. It being the only device with Touch ID and doesn’t use watch to unlock(Macs) is annoying
Don’t buy this iPad mini the fact that they haven’t even fixed the jelly scroll in which shows you just how much Apple cares about this iPad mini, and here’s a hint, they don’t.
Will that screen problem affect while playing games? I’m planning on getting it mainly for game streaming/emulation, reading, drawing and taking notes, but if the screen have that problem, will it affect the gaming experience?
I cannot see the jelly scrolling on the right side, and also the ipad 7 has more low end on the inbuilt speakers. Jelly scrolling is not subtle, think you’re a little suggested. Try to see that left half of the screen is moving slightly before than the right side and vice versa. What you can see on the mini 7 is just delay. Is curious that Apple Watch Ultra 2 have same issue but only few people realized because the screen is too small I can test it by myself tomorrow cause I’ve purchased one and have also the mini 6
I am ok with 60hz display, but I am not ok that the display quality(anti reflective, viewing angle, color, scrolling smoothness) is not on par with current ipad air. It’s basically the display quality of regular ipad which is not appealing to me. For the price point, I am not expecting oled or 120hz, but I guess because there is not much unit sold of ipad mini for apple to have incentive to spend more time on R&D on the mini.
Yes, this is one of the reasons that the Mini units are not sold enough for further R&D. The other one is Apple doesn't want competition among their products, so making a lower end device too appealing would diminish sales in the upper tiers. This is the reason for not letting iPad Air and Pro models to run macOS. They are more than capable of doing it, but Apple doesn't want to see declining sales for MacBooks for this reason.
I have the iPad mini 6, so there's no reason for me to upgrade. Will definitely sit this one out. I was hoping for external display support, that would have been the only thing that could have got me to upgrade.
have you considered looking at these new mini pc's with occulink? it's such a game changer, i know there's gaming laptops but you're constantly losing performance because of the battery. if i'm going away for a month i'd much rather take one of these and have a keyboard mouse and monitor on either end.
My only wish is rotation cannot be set - when reclining or lying down (and working with patients/clients with limited/unstable movements) the rotation auto goes from portrait to landscape constantly and is frustrating. The original iPad I remember I could set the rotation to not have it rotate. Tim needs to talk to ME! and put this back in the iPad. Also, I should be able to turn on or off the auto shaping when pausing my pencil when taking notes - my irregular line should remain so and not go to a straighten line when I don't want it to (I'm note taking a resting my pen! - I don't need an auto shape change!).
Is the iPad mini 6 the only one with jelly roll? I had a 4 or 5 (don’t remember which one) and I never noticed it. I’ll have to go to the Apple Store and see for myself and if it bothers me.
I hear people on here constantly complaining about the jelly roll effect…I have tried to re-create that effect on my Mini 6 and I just can’t see it. I’m actually going to upgrade to the Mini 7, but only because I needed more hard drive space. Otherwise I wouldn’t waste the money upgrading. It’s a great secondary/travel iPad to my iPad Pro 12.9.
iPad mini 6th gen I use a lot but sometimes app crashes,glitches,freeze ,battery warm forcing me to restart or defective What if this iPad mini 7th gen is same ?
Its a pity that the mini upgrades are even smaller an iteration than with the other devices from the looks of it. You’ve been quite critical and insightful on the whole new line up and it really helped me decide on what would be a good fit for me. 👍🏾
I want an "iPad Mini Pro" ehehe. What if we could combine the iPad mini chassy with an A18 Pro and 120 Hz and other things. Id buy that the moment it comes out
@@smashandburnyt6938 exactly so why are they asking for something they know Apple would never release. It’s a corporation and not a make a wish Tech company. They tried a mini with the iPhone and y’all basically spat in their faces and told them fck u with your wallets and lack interest in them. So we are even Lucky they release a new mini iPad at all. Take it or leave it. They sell the pro’s with those high features, if you can afford it, just be ready to pay. There’s a price and use case for everyone. People just over reach for things Even android manufacturers won’t do and the ones that do make it so bad with crap parts but they don’t complain, hypocrites.
Ahhh I really wanted to buy this iPad but the display and refresh rate alone is a huge turn off. I’m better off getting a Y700 from Lenovo that has way better hardware 😕
Got 350 through Best Buy for a trade in price for the 6th. Sure didn’t need to really, but also Apple Intelligence is only available for the mini with this model. Sure it still needs to deliver but effectively paid less than half the price with taxes.
I've been checking out reviews on the mini 7 - this is the best by far. Thx for the effort in making this! Awesome. I'm going from Mini 5 to 7.. almost skipped the jelly scroll, damn. Close enough maybe. On the updated video your planning, please play a couple of Steam AAA games. Gotta check the differences.
The jelly scroll on the mini 6 is absolutely atrocious and bothers me a lot! So my question is, the mini 7 seems to be improved over the 6, but by how much? Would you say it’s like a 50% improvement or more?? If it’s improved I might still upgrade.
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Apple Pencil timestamp is wrong. Just thought I would let you know.
The only thing I’m upset about is the rise of price of the pro from 800$ to 1000$ …. Pro is the only iPad…. Just get old M1 Pro !!! Don’t be fooled !!! Don’t get iPad without 120 hz!!! Dosnt worth it, if you don’t have money or you are cheap, go for android
People coping are wild. It's simple. If you own the 6, don't upgrade. If you don't own a 6, like me, get the 7. I think it's THAT simple.
No, its not. If you have the money and it doesn't hurt you the 7 is a good buy...
Even if you don’t own an iPad mini 6, the iPad mini 7 still isn’t worth buying unless you care about Apple Intelligence because outside of 8GB RAM and A17 pro chip there is nothing else that has changed. It’s literally the iPad mini 6 we’ve just those changes and not worth the money.
@@Adamtendo_player_1 That would be true if you are buying the 256GB version, but the base model at 128GB is worth it (compared to the 6 w/64GB)
The only iPad is the Pro
@@Kudammxknesebeck false buddy
Not only did they not fix the display, but it is also using a year old chip when the 2021 used the current one. Feels like this was meant to release last year and was delayed for some reason.
Not only a year old chip but a cut down version. It has only 5 cores of gpu vs 6 cores of iPhone 15 pro
@@Dmckdnsmssnsns yeah. They generally bin the chips in the iPad unless you get the top end pro models lol the chip in the mini 6 was binned lmao yall all acting like this is new
Next year will have OLED and 120hz
This Mini 7 release made me realise that my Mini 6 is still worth it and obviously future proof and will be my companion for another 3-4 years. 😊
yeah
100/100🤫
Jumping from Mini 5 to the 7. Looking forward to it 👍🏼 Love it as a camera also so I’m glad for the upgrades
Are you sure it will be future proof ?
there is nothing new to see here what hasn't been explained already
For speaker tests, don’t change it back and forth during the beats that the song is also changing.
You should switch it in between the song changing sections so you can head the speakers playing the same bar of the song for a more accurate comparison
Thank you, this is exactly right!
4:49 I truthfully cannot see any jelly scrolling on the 7 at all here. What are you referring to? Ghosting, sure, but that's a separate issue. If it's so slight that it doesn't even translate to video, in contrast to the 6 where it's very obvious, it's strange for the conclusion simply to be "it's still there". Based on the footage it appears to be either gone or almost gone.
The jelly scroll was my biggest hang up on the mini 6, so if it’s much better or hardly noticeable I might still upgrade.
Is battery size bigger? Is battery life significantly better?
It’s been the exact same capacity since the 5th generation. They just redesigned the mini in 2021 but still the same just like the iPad Air. No hardware changes just stuck in a new chipset.
I absolutely love the mini 7. After years with the iPad Pro 11” it’s really nice to go to a smaller form factor 😊
I tried to make myself like my iPad Pro 11” so hard for over a year after always having an iPad mini before that… then they came out with the mini 6 and I “downgraded” to the mini 6 and gave the pro to my wife lol… 11” is just too damn big unless you use it on a table with a stand like a laptop
Just when you thought the iPhone 16 update was the worst, this one comes along. I get it, Apple doesn't have any formidable competition popularity-wise in the mini tablet field, but it has been THREE years. They could've at least given us 90hz refresh rate OR an OLED panel OR higher screen brightness OR bigger battery OR a small camera spec bump. Any one of those would have been a welcome addition, but then it's Apple, so...
Yall be asking for stuff, but won’t even buy it if it’s released. Next thing yall gonna be crying about is price
@@Babynetta honey, it's one thing to be asking for what's long overdue, it's another to assume someone's capability to buy something.
@@highland_persuasion it’s not something that’s overdue cause apple doesnt owe us anything. If they wanted to, they could just discontinue the mini.
@@Babynetta If they wanted to, they could've upped the specs more. But obviously the iPad mini sells. That's why they didn't discontinue it. And besides, incremental improvements is the name of the game. Acknowledging that won't make them change, but it doesn't invalidate such take. Be well.
@@highland_persuasion be well too
The jelly scrolling was definitely way worse on the Mini 6. It’s definitely improved on the Mini 7 even though you still see it a little bit. And I also thought the speakers sounded better on the mini 7
I thought the speakers sounded better on the 7 too!
@justinpelletier03 - On video is a bit more difficult to notice the jelly scrolling effect. If is still present, maybe is not to bother me as the Mini 6 that I skipped because of it. For me it was too much.
About the speakers, I do too think the Mini 7 sounded slight better.
I just wish it could have a better battery and at least a mini led display.
The jelly scrolling on the new mini didn't look as bad as the mini 6 in your video. At least to my eyes anyway.
I tried in person at apple store today and I don’t see jelly scrolling a problem on landscape mode. It’s more so on portrait orientation, but not bad at all. The deal breaker for me is that the scrolling seems more laggy and choppy on the mini than on the ipad air.
@@tktkwei It was never a problem in landscape? Not sure you needed to test that. It was a portrait only problem
I wish someone would measure the screen refresh rate. To me it looks like the ipad mini 7 is stuttering when scrolling. Wouldn't put it past Apple to be lowering the refresh rate when scrolling to make the jelly scrolling less visible.
@@tktkwei thats what jelly thing actually is lol
I didn’t notice any jelly scroll. Brian Tong says there isn’t any jelly scroll either
Lot people like myself never saw it on mini 6. It’s likely non issue for majority of people and never was.
@@sly2792004 People say that but I'm honestly a little baffled how that's the case. Maybe people only use it in landscape? In portrait it looks super obvious to me, hard to imagine people looking at it and not seeing anything.
Brian is an Apple fanboy if he say something about it, Apple will never speak to him again and also those in-person interviews he had with those executives will cease to happen again.
yeah my eyes are wrong, a random internet guy can't lie about it
@@deon.zoldyckI had mini 6 since launch and never have jelly scrolling problems. I sold it for an iPad Pro.
I’m confused about the jelly scrolling issue, some say it doesn’t exist and some say it does
Honestly it depends on your vision
not all displays are affected by that
It exists but it’s way less bad. It was a legitimate complaint on the 6, it’s a nitpick on the 7
It literally does exist though, idk how anyone can deny it
I had an iPad mini6 before I traded it for m4 11”. Never noticed any jelly scrollings but the main issue for me would be 60hz. I won’t go back to mini until they increase the refresh rate.
This is the only tablet that you can hold in one hand while half lying on the bed, and iCloud is available.
This is the only one that can be linked to the iPhone in a size that fits horizontally in both hands as an adult male standard.
I also know that OLED 120Hz is a pity. But there is no substitute.
8GB RAM, 128GB storage, Wifi6E, USB 3.2 Gen2 upgrade.
I like lazy posture the most, and the iPad mini is actually the most frequently used.
Now I'm going to retire the 5-year-old iPad mini 5.
I am sure that Matt Talks Tech did these exact tests like 36 hours ago, nothing new to see here
Never had a mini. I think it’s a good product for me. Need a smaller device to use with my eDrums. The extra storage is definitely necessary. Great video!
“It now says iPad mini on the back and not just iPad, which is Soooo satisfying” 😭😵
It's embarrassing isn't it.
@@whereweregoingwedontneedey4374 how
@@DonDon45-i5h Because it's so trivial. It literally doesn't affect the device in any way at all in terms of it's functionality
@@whereweregoingwedontneedey4374Who cares lol
@@whereweregoingwedontneedey4374 that's literally just a passing commentary. Why are you losing sleep over it?
Max you need new content, other creators have done these tests already
lol it’s his content, pipe down
“Jelly scrolling” isn’t that big of an issue for those that don’t care. It’s not that serious
The fun is how u have to turn on slowmo to even see it. But yeah.. Ofc there are people seeing it in realtime (lol)
I’ve never noticed it on my mini 6
I didn’t notice any jelly scroll on the 7th gen iPad mini
He meant the iPad mini 6
@@AntonioOki And which iPad do you think I'm talking about?
@@Adgale he might misread cause I did too 😂
Nice review! I have only two questions. 1. did apple upgrade the modem for the cellular version? 2. did battery life improve? Thanks! Considering to upgrade because I have the iPad mini 5 and I dislike the lightning port, single sided speakers, and the screen. I feel this iPad is a good upgrade for me.
I had the 256GB Mini 6 but I went with upgrading it to the Mini 7 for the higher RAM, 512GB option, future proofing and Apple Intelligence. I also managed to sell my Mini 6 for decent money and saved up some money I had and was able to purchase the 512gb mini (for half its price with the money I made off the Mini 6) which will be perfect for all my games, apps and storing all my photos. Personally, I'd only recommend upgrading if you want higher storage or want to take advantage of more RAM, Apple Intelligence and increased performances (both USB and A17 pro). Otherwise, both are practically the same and if your on budget, keep the Mini 6. If you don't have an iPad Mini and want to buy one, Mini 7 is awesome.
Do you notice the daily usage speed is faster compared to mini 6? Like general scrolling through app, opening apps, opening webpage etc?
@ It does feel quite a bit snappier when scrolling or using the browser. The A17 Pro is a big bump in single core performance compared to the A15 in the Mini 6 and is better than that of the M2 iPad Air. The Mini 6 is still pretty fast though. Last time I used mine, i only really saw little lag but pretty consistent, fast performance but the new Mini definitely feels more snappier
Planning on getting the Mini with cellular and getting the smaller 16 Pro. Has anyone tried something similar like this combination?
I just find the Pro Max too big. And planning to sell the iPad Air M1.
You currently own the Mini 6.
If Loaded with cash.
Buy the Mini 7
Else
Keep the Mini 6
If you don't own any.
Buy the Mini 7
If you want more savings.
Buy the Mini 6
No changes in anything except you have to adopt the latest Pencil Pro and better CPU(?). Really disappointed that it is offered with a lower binned chip. Really was expecting at least A18 to be inside. The A17 "Pro" chip naming will definitely fool alot and really alot of people.
I had iPad Mini 6 since launch 2021, I originally wasn't going to buy the Mini 7 but decided to upgrade because I figured an upgrade after 3 years is worthwhile. I was also thinking who knows how long it will be before the next iPad Mini is launched since Apple included their AI on the Mini 7.
Probably another 3 years till the next mini sadly… my dream iPad is an iPad Pro with a 9 inch display
I am thinking the same thing. I also got the base model of the 2021 version so spring if 2025 ill be buying a mini 7 with more storage and keeping my 6 for out of the house since it’s also data compatible
Good job. Your channel excels at this type of research. Thank you.
1:14 that is not an apple pencil connector, it's just the antena band, even the iphone has one in the same side dummy
no, this is a connector for apple pencil pro, it looks like you've never seen the latest versions of ipad, dummy
The antenna on iPads is in a completely different place, iPads don’t have to be 100% similar to iPhones, ignoramus
I've been using a mini 6 since it released, perfect form factor, only issue is that I frequently exceed it's limit in freeform because it just does not have enough RAM, considering upgrading simply due to that. T-T
I'm also a display nerd that reads a lot and have not had any issues with jelly scrolling since I use dark mode.
Well I just wasted 18 minutes of my life of learning nothing new to other tech youtube channels
Coming from an ipad mini 5, this is a HUGE upgrade for me. Even if i was coming from the mini 6, you get a much faster chip and double the ram. Plus depending on who you speak with Apple either totally fixed or greatly minimized the jelly scroll issue. Yeah, a pro motion display with face ID & thinner bezels & 1,000 nits of brightness woulda been nice... but it's not the end of the world. I'm sure Apple will add those in the next update. But I'm not gonna wait another 3 yrs for that. I need to upgrade my ipad mini 5. I know you can pick up a mini 6 cheaper now, but as an artist, i really want Apple pencil pro support. Plus the 8 gigs of ram & faster chip will carry me thru the next 3 years until the ipad mini 8.
Great review thanks. But the speakers do sound better and I couldn’t see any jelly scrolling on the 7th gen.
I don’t have any problem with my mini 6 speed it’s quiet fast for most of the tasks i do, I had better hopes for the 7
Wow! I learnt nothing new
😂🤣😭
i found a ipad mini 6 for 300 used. vs mini 450 used. Not sure which one to buy.
How do you test everything but the battery?
I’ve owned the 5 and upgraded and owned the 6 when it got released. I never thought it was ever slow 😂. And don’t even notice the jelly scroll. It’s been wonderful. And I’m not upgrading since it’s nots really much of an upgrade to me.
I own a 6 and not planning on upgrading. What's the point?
Why did you not get a iPad Mini early Max like others?
Will the iPad Mini 6 get AI support in a future update? Or just on the 7?
Just the 7th. That is what this update for
Current trade-in value up to $230, so reduced upgrade cost to $269? With a three year old battery (wish the Settings Battery app had health indication), getting 8GB RAM over 4GB, 128GB storage over 64GB (currently using ~50GB) I'm still on the fence. IF Mini 7 supported App;e Pencil 2 non-USB-C I probably would jump. Thoughts Max?
All the above plus fresh warranty led me to do this exact trade-in. I did not get Apple care, since I figure this will last until the next gen comes out 3 years from now.
I was about to hit order when I saw the iPad mini being released. Then I read the difference from the mini 6. And I stopped.
I’m waiting for Face ID. Mini 6 is great and still preforming like new.
is it worth getting?
Yes
if you have the 6, then no
I really like the iPad mini. You did not test the - to me most important thing. Battery-life of the small mini is the most annoying/limiting thing for me, not jelly-scrolling,… Any improvement there with e.g reduced power-consumption of the new chip during regular use (e.g. surfing, youtube) would be a major improvement.
I did not notice the jelly scrolling it’s very apparent on the mini 6 tho
Jelly Scrolling is a very minor issue. I had the iPad6, and couldn’t really see this unless I’m just trying to find it. In everyday use, it’s a non-issue. Transfer speed…while amazing improvement, the mini is a consumption device, not a creative device (and yes you can create on it, but the screen size alone will not make me reach for it over my MacBook). These Mini’s are amazing little devices for reading, note taking, and consuming content. I opted for the iPad5 because of my aging eyes, I prefer the larger screen for reading and note taking.
The jelly thing seems quite less noticeable in the 7. It’s enough for me ✋🤚
I need an ipad for gaming less than 400$ wich one you recommend
Well as far as upgrading- its really a question of whether its worth $270 or so.
Because if we ipad 6 owners were to upgrade we would likely trade our mini 6 for it and right now the rate we would get for that is around $230.
So we would be spending almost $300 to get these admittedly exciting upgrades in speed and usability.
Is it worth spending $300 to upgrade for that boost of speed and performance?
Idk!
the answer is nope, unless you need that Pencil Pro
Thank you for a fair and balanced comparison.
Why would the chip be too small for the ipad when its the same chip but missing a core that the iphone 15 pro max uses?
I knew the iPad mini wasn’t going to get an OLED screen until at least 2026 or later. But I was hoping for a ProMotion display & Face ID in the mini 7. Even tho it didn’t get them, I am gonna buy the mini 7 for sure. It’s still a HUGE upgrade from my mini 5. Much Faster chip. Faster wifi & usbc. More internal storage and best of all, Apple Pencil Pro support. I’m an artist, and even tho my iPad Pro is my main content creation device, I always grab my iPad mini when I wanna travel light. It’s the perfect size digital sketchbook when on the go. It’s almost the same size as an A5 moleskin sketchbook which is a very popular sketchbook size for artists. I am gonna order a cellular iPad mini 7 in blue. Just trying to decide btwn the 256 & 512 gig model. Chances are the iPad mini won’t get another update for another 2 or 3 years again… so waiting for an OLED or pro motion display iPad mini with Face ID is not an option. I know the mini 7 will give me many years of creative productivity. ✍🏼
All I really want is Face ID. Otherwise it’s fine. Mean mini led or oled would be nice. I don’t see difference in frame rate. It being the only device with Touch ID and doesn’t use watch to unlock(Macs) is annoying
@@Regantdarcy why would the Mini get Pro Motion when the Air didn’t get it?
@@ChazUBCSExactlyy, the mini is just a smaller and weaker version of the Air, it will likely never get Oled or ProMotion
Don’t buy this iPad mini the fact that they haven’t even fixed the jelly scroll in which shows you just how much Apple cares about this iPad mini, and here’s a hint, they don’t.
@edengate1 ignorant statement dude. Im a professional artist, and the ipad mini is an indispensable tool in my creative workflow
Now I'm a bit confused, who are the ones that sill uses memory cards? I have not done it in decades🤐
I have the iPad 10th gen 256gb, should I trade it in for a mini 7?
Compare it with iPad Air M2 as few years back we use to get same specs on both. If it sucks then compare it with iPad Air M1.
Will that screen problem affect while playing games? I’m planning on getting it mainly for game streaming/emulation, reading, drawing and taking notes, but if the screen have that problem, will it affect the gaming experience?
Yes
Just bought an iPad mini 5 for $200 256gb, waiting for iPad mini pro oled 120hz and better battery life whenever that comes
I use my mini 6 outside. All I care is if there were awesome improvements in the max NIT brightness.
the power button with Touch ID is the killer, even my mini has a low mileage the power button will just shut itself.
Excellent comparison, thank you much as I don’t own a mini and your video convinced me the 7 is the way to go. Thank you. 👍
I cannot see the jelly scrolling on the right side, and also the ipad 7 has more low end on the inbuilt speakers.
Jelly scrolling is not subtle, think you’re a little suggested. Try to see that left half of the screen is moving slightly before than the right side and vice versa. What you can see on the mini 7 is just delay.
Is curious that Apple Watch Ultra 2 have same issue but only few people realized because the screen is too small
I can test it by myself tomorrow cause I’ve purchased one and have also the mini 6
Another brilliant video! Thank you for always giving the straight dope for potential buyers ! My best!
Ipad mini 7 256 gb or ipad air m2 11 inch 128gb . Which is batter ?
I am ok with 60hz display, but I am not ok that the display quality(anti reflective, viewing angle, color, scrolling smoothness) is not on par with current ipad air. It’s basically the display quality of regular ipad which is not appealing to me. For the price point, I am not expecting oled or 120hz, but I guess because there is not much unit sold of ipad mini for apple to have incentive to spend more time on R&D on the mini.
Yes, this is one of the reasons that the Mini units are not sold enough for further R&D.
The other one is Apple doesn't want competition among their products, so making a lower end device too appealing would diminish sales in the upper tiers.
This is the reason for not letting iPad Air and Pro models to run macOS. They are more than capable of doing it, but Apple doesn't want to see declining sales for MacBooks for this reason.
I have the iPad mini 6, so there's no reason for me to upgrade. Will definitely sit this one out. I was hoping for external display support, that would have been the only thing that could have got me to upgrade.
Ive never noticed jelly scroll and the mini 6 is my main device. I got the cellular version and it replaced my iphone
Watch this on my budget ipad with the a9 the screen is cracked really bad but it still runs for what I need it for even gaming
have you considered looking at these new mini pc's with occulink? it's such a game changer, i know there's gaming laptops but you're constantly losing performance because of the battery. if i'm going away for a month i'd much rather take one of these and have a keyboard mouse and monitor on either end.
I don’t see one thing that is better in the new seventh iteration that is relevant for me compared to my mini 6. It even looks the same.
My only wish is rotation cannot be set - when reclining or lying down (and working with patients/clients with limited/unstable movements) the rotation auto goes from portrait to landscape constantly and is frustrating. The original iPad I remember I could set the rotation to not have it rotate. Tim needs to talk to ME! and put this back in the iPad. Also, I should be able to turn on or off the auto shaping when pausing my pencil when taking notes - my irregular line should remain so and not go to a straighten line when I don't want it to (I'm note taking a resting my pen! - I don't need an auto shape change!).
Is the iPad mini 6 the only one with jelly roll? I had a 4 or 5 (don’t remember which one) and I never noticed it. I’ll have to go to the Apple Store and see for myself and if it bothers me.
I don’t notice it. Most people don’t notice it. It also present on older ones but in different orientation. They changed the screen layout for mini 6.
I hear people on here constantly complaining about the jelly roll effect…I have tried to re-create that effect on my Mini 6 and I just can’t see it. I’m actually going to upgrade to the Mini 7, but only because I needed more hard drive space. Otherwise I wouldn’t waste the money upgrading. It’s a great secondary/travel iPad to my iPad Pro 12.9.
Ipad mini 7 is a masterpiece. Period!
iPad mini 6th gen
I use a lot but sometimes app crashes,glitches,freeze ,battery warm forcing me to restart or defective
What if this iPad mini 7th gen is same ?
I think more ram better, but not the other way around
Its a pity that the mini upgrades are even smaller an iteration than with the other devices from the looks of it. You’ve been quite critical and insightful on the whole new line up and it really helped me decide on what would be a good fit for me. 👍🏾
I want an "iPad Mini Pro" ehehe. What if we could combine the iPad mini chassy with an A18 Pro and 120 Hz and other things. Id buy that the moment it comes out
Hope you would be willing to pay $800 for the base model when that drops? No
Complaints or buts
apple wouldnt do that as it would hurt the sales of iPad Pro
@@smashandburnyt6938 exactly so why are they asking for something they know Apple would never release. It’s a corporation and not a make a wish Tech company. They tried a mini with the iPhone and y’all basically spat in their faces and told them fck u with your wallets and lack interest in them. So we are even Lucky they release a new mini iPad at all. Take it or leave it. They sell the pro’s with those high features, if you can afford it, just be ready to pay. There’s a price and use case for everyone. People just over reach for things Even android manufacturers won’t do and the ones that do make it so bad with crap parts but they don’t complain, hypocrites.
You already got that lol search up 16 pro max
@@Testimony201it’s probably be around 600-700.
With the iPad Air M2, and iPad Pro M4, they changed the camera so the previous Apple Pencil 2 didn’t work. But what’s the excuse here?
I like it ! And is it included The Jelly scroll feature!
Ahhh I really wanted to buy this iPad but the display and refresh rate alone is a huge turn off. I’m better off getting a Y700 from Lenovo that has way better hardware 😕
Pls kindly test DaVinci Resolve with new mini - thank you very much in advance :)
I just got it because I got the 64g 6th gen
I paid a total of 239 after buying it through the education store and trading in my old 6th gen
Yeah it has bigger storage but how much storage would be left once AI drops next week? Probably the same as IPad 6.
As a person who had been waiting for this mini, I really loved your video! Thanks, very useful! Pleasantly disappointed with the performance 😍
What about battery life?
Got 350 through Best Buy for a trade in price for the 6th. Sure didn’t need to really, but also Apple Intelligence is only available for the mini with this model. Sure it still needs to deliver but effectively paid less than half the price with taxes.
Guys, is is possible to make the Neural Engine benchmark across iPhone generations? Let say since 12 or 13. That would be very interesting video!
This ipad was made by supply management. Cant buy the iphone 15pro anymore so they have all these leftover chips.
I use mine to read. I think the 6 will work the same.
What about battery life?
On 60hz not worth buying this year, i wait this one out 1-2 year after price drop 😅
I have the mini 6 and I use it a lot and I don’t even know what jelly scrolling is.
Thanks good video !! What about stage manager? Is it posible to use full screen with external monitor ?
No stage manager. Only for Air and above
The bezels seem thick still which is a shame
Kudos for REAL performance tests.. not just the bla de bla all other US reviewers are touting.. 🙏😍🙏
If the A17 Pro chip gets binned a GPU core and throttled performance, shouldn’t Apple ditch the “Pro” name? 🤔
Thank you very much for this video! I bought mini 7
I've been checking out reviews on the mini 7 - this is the best by far. Thx for the effort in making this! Awesome.
I'm going from Mini 5 to 7.. almost skipped the jelly scroll, damn. Close enough maybe. On the updated video your planning, please play a couple of Steam AAA games. Gotta check the differences.
I would be upgrading from a 5th gen, thats gotta be worth it??
Mini 5 is still superior to the 6 and 7
@@zorba4413 the main problem I have is that my 5 has run out of memory and I hate renting icloud!
The jelly scroll on the mini 6 is absolutely atrocious and bothers me a lot! So my question is, the mini 7 seems to be improved over the 6, but by how much? Would you say it’s like a 50% improvement or more??
If it’s improved I might still upgrade.
Its actually worse and choppier in portrait. Returning my mini 7 today while only trying for 10 min, made me feel nauseated.
Why no regular silver/gray color option? I hate hate Stardust!!!!