Take my upvote. Thanks for the two videos. 1. I'd love to see a video just about how to check if each P4 is profitable to do. 2. I'd love to see the setups for each P4 in video format. Thanks for all you've done.
That looks like fun! Is it possible to make or mine all of those resources by oneself? That would be the best feeling; going out and mining the materials, finding the blueprints etc. and turning them all into the finished product. At least once. I imagine it would be almost impossible to get all that together every four days. This video makes me want to play Eve again :)
Nice little setup. P4 Factory only has 50% uptime but there is only so much you can do on one planet. Production planets are a good choice for highsec but taxes are still brutal compared to wormholes / nullsec.
@@DoceoDuoEVEOnlineYou missed his point. Your P4 factory will only be running half the time. You need 2 P3 per P4 factory for it to run 100% of the time.
Excellent and very informative video. I would love to see other planet setups plus maybe some industry / manufacturing or T2 products to this level of information. Fly Safe o7
At current market prices, the 3 different T3 resource input sold at market value equates to the same as 1 Wetware Mainframes. Factoring in Custom Tax for inputs, you're actually better making T3s and selling them to the market instead.
Say you had a pile of one of the T2 components like Supercomputers (eg watercooled cpus, coolant and consumer elec) - you COULD just dump them into the corresponding launchpad right and they'll be used up even if the advanced fatories sit idle.
You need to join a wormhole or pochven corp to get the -1.0 bonus. Even with reasonable taxes on the pocos there you should be able to do what your doing with 6 vice 9 characters.
Q, you say this setup makes 48 Wetware Mainframes every 4 days, however, your High-Tech factory produces 1 unit per hour, 24 per day. So it's operating only at half capacity due to limited inputs. Could you optimize this and feed P2s instead of P1s, so that your single High-Tech factory runs at 100% efficiency?
awesome, can you do one for the semi easier P4s like broadcast or recursives? im in null and ive been re-doing my IRD and WWM planets to your setup sense its more convenient. but wondering if theres something i can do to make my nodes and recursives set up like this but without wasting any planet cpu/pg.
In the video he speaks the words "24 and a half million every 4 days per planet," but the closed caption words does read 24 and a half Billion with a B. It's obviously 24 million with an M.
With some fast math 48*2.488.000=119.424.000-75.000.000(invest)=36.783.072(taxes 10%CO/8% market) per 4 days/4=9.195.768 per day per 1 planet. 9.195.768x6 planets=55.174.608 per character x3 characters per account = 165.523.824 per account in 1 day x 30 = 4.965.714.720. So almost 5 billion isk passively per account
Noob here. Sorry I didn't get the level of ROI. Fill up for 4 days costs 70mil and return is only 24mil? If I'm mistaken and return is 48 * 2.5 mil, then do you think it makes sense with default high taxes for customs and brokers?
Default taxes are a huge burden, always train as soon as you can into them. Yeah thats the average cost/income * x amount of toons and planets. Makes it worth it
Every 4 days you input materials and take out the wetwares. Thats where those taxes come into play. So i just deduct these from the profit every 4 days.
Billion. Fluctuates depending on supply and demand. But your always making billions. Ofc you have to invest like with anything. But your ultimately making billions in profit.
They do :D , of course you need the skill to get it as low as this, but there are HS systems out there that get down to 10%, I do run my P.I in one of those systems :)
Dependant on Taxes. As of now - 6 Planets x 30 days = 1.48 bill profit. Times that by how many toons you run. Myself currently is 9 toons = 13.32 bill profit. At time of recording when new skyhooks dropped meant alot more profit. All depends on market and your own taxes.
Excellent video. Clear and concise. Thank you.
@franklinbradley3160 thank you for your kind words 😊
Take my upvote. Thanks for the two videos.
1. I'd love to see a video just about how to check if each P4 is profitable to do.
2. I'd love to see the setups for each P4 in video format.
Thanks for all you've done.
Chapters will be available soon, just waiting for TH-cam to accept them.
Anything else you would like to see us create, drop us a comment or a message
Hi could you update the description with a buy list of things needed so we can play along :P
@@pilks4k sure, will sort that out this evening
@@pilks4k Done, check the description :)
That looks like fun! Is it possible to make or mine all of those resources by oneself? That would be the best feeling; going out and mining the materials, finding the blueprints etc. and turning them all into the finished product. At least once. I imagine it would be almost impossible to get all that together every four days.
This video makes me want to play Eve again :)
Thanks for the great comment. it is possible and i will get round to making a vid on it and seeing what is possible.
Nice little setup. P4 Factory only has 50% uptime but there is only so much you can do on one planet. Production planets are a good choice for highsec but taxes are still brutal compared to wormholes / nullsec.
Yeah taxes can be a pain, but being low risk and decent income. Evens itself out enough.
@@DoceoDuoEVEOnlineYou missed his point. Your P4 factory will only be running half the time. You need 2 P3 per P4 factory for it to run 100% of the time.
@@buddytoups1129 His setup has 3 P3 factory surrounding 1 P4.
Very well made, easy to follow guide! Looking forward to more of these!!
Thank you :)
Excellent and very informative video. I would love to see other planet setups plus maybe some industry / manufacturing or T2 products to this level of information.
Fly Safe o7
Thank you! And that would be cool!
At current market prices, the 3 different T3 resource input sold at market value equates to the same as 1 Wetware Mainframes. Factoring in Custom Tax for inputs, you're actually better making T3s and selling them to the market instead.
6 planets per 4 days nets 115.8 Mill income after all taxes and buying costs. At current prices as of 28.08.24 @ 18:35 eve time.
Buy orders for 1 planet 4 days worth is now in the comments :)
Say you had a pile of one of the T2 components like Supercomputers (eg watercooled cpus, coolant and consumer elec) - you COULD just dump them into the corresponding launchpad right and they'll be used up even if the advanced fatories sit idle.
Hey, Yes thats totally possible.
You need to join a wormhole or pochven corp to get the -1.0 bonus. Even with reasonable taxes on the pocos there you should be able to do what your doing with 6 vice 9 characters.
Oh for sure, more risk comes reward. But there is a big risk with that.
Cheers chap, has given me an idea
Glad to hear it!
Q, you say this setup makes 48 Wetware Mainframes every 4 days, however, your High-Tech factory produces 1 unit per hour, 24 per day. So it's operating only at half capacity due to limited inputs. Could you optimize this and feed P2s instead of P1s, so that your single High-Tech factory runs at 100% efficiency?
I do think thats possible, all depends of the prices of P2's and if thats worth it, i will have to work out the maths on it :)
great video thank you!
Thanks for the nice comment 👍
awesome, can you do one for the semi easier P4s like broadcast or recursives? im in null and ive been re-doing my IRD and WWM planets to your setup sense its more convenient. but wondering if theres something i can do to make my nodes and recursives set up like this but without wasting any planet cpu/pg.
I can try, i will have to speak to some Null people to let me do some testing lol
nicely done
Thank you :)
2,488,000 X 48 = 119,424,000 ... 2 1/2 Billion would take 20 sets of 48 x 4 days = 80 days almost 3 months, am I right?
@@johnharrell817 hi there, based on average prices. Wouldn't be far off that.
In the video he speaks the words "24 and a half million every 4 days per planet," but the closed caption words does read 24 and a half Billion with a B. It's obviously 24 million with an M.
Do you have a video for the ressource extraction? I am new to PI
Thats one of the next videos on the agenda
o7 magnificient!
With some fast math
48*2.488.000=119.424.000-75.000.000(invest)=36.783.072(taxes 10%CO/8% market) per 4 days/4=9.195.768 per day per 1 planet.
9.195.768x6 planets=55.174.608 per character x3 characters per account = 165.523.824 per account in 1 day x 30 = 4.965.714.720.
So almost 5 billion isk passively per account
Very roughly and will fluctuate either way, depend on prices and your skills for taxes plus standings.
Example - I have combined sell taxes down to 5%
@@DoceoDuoEVEOnline Agreed, o7
how did u manage to calculate how much u needed in total per 4 days ?
Each factory tells you how much it requires for each cycle, then u work that out with how much the poco can hold at any one time
Noob here. Sorry I didn't get the level of ROI. Fill up for 4 days costs 70mil and return is only 24mil?
If I'm mistaken and return is 48 * 2.5 mil, then do you think it makes sense with default high taxes for customs and brokers?
Default taxes are a huge burden, always train as soon as you can into them. Yeah thats the average cost/income * x amount of toons and planets. Makes it worth it
how do you take in to account the custom office taxes?
Every 4 days you input materials and take out the wetwares.
Thats where those taxes come into play.
So i just deduct these from the profit every 4 days.
24 billion or did you mean million? Because the numbers really don't add up to billions unless you invest billions :D
Billion. Fluctuates depending on supply and demand. But your always making billions.
Ofc you have to invest like with anything. But your ultimately making billions in profit.
@@DoceoDuoEVEOnline Did you buy the T1 materials or did you source them from other alts making T1?
@@adamblade9156 Bought them
Youre correct, 24 million profit per 4 days on one planet
Is it possible to produce the raw materials for this plant on other planets within 4 days?
You would possibly need more toons for this, but yes possible
24 Billion per 1 planet per 4 days? I have done the maths on this and it doesn't add up. Are you sure you never meant 24 million?
which if its 24 million its hardly worth it
Never said 1 planet makes billions in 4 days, 9 toons can make that much, depending on the market.
@@andycx2 Its average profit, 1 planet every 4 days is 27 million. Thats 202 million profit every 30 days on 1 planet.
You clearly say 23 billion in the video. 27 million is nothing. A waste of time imo @DoceoDuoEVEOnline
I make much better money making uranium one jump into low sec.
Algorithm stat padding comment!
things that dont exist in high sec 10% tax customs lol they are all 16-100% nothing lower
They do :D , of course you need the skill to get it as low as this, but there are HS systems out there that get down to 10%, I do run my P.I in one of those systems :)
What is the average cost of 4 days worth of materials?
1 planet, 4 days = 72 million in costs on average.
PI is complicated
@@denuwananuththara6014 take it step by step. U will get there
🤣🤣🤣🤣 this has got to be a joke. Costs about 90 mill to fill up, and 4 days later, sell for 120 mill. Where does the 24.5 billion come from exactly ?
Dependant on Taxes. As of now - 6 Planets x 30 days = 1.48 bill profit. Times that by how many toons you run. Myself currently is 9 toons = 13.32 bill profit. At time of recording when new skyhooks dropped meant alot more profit.
All depends on market and your own taxes.