Having lyn, eirika , and alear be where they are all makes sense. Ironically two of the three happen to be winter envoys in feh. I wonder if this means lyn will get to be one soon.
Merry Christmas! While Sigurd arguably ends up on the naughty list just because of what his deeds lead to more often than not (good intentions do not always lead to good deeds), I don't think he's a bad person. His campaigns go on way too long, but most of the time that's out of his control. -Verdane: When they're not invading his home, Sigurd fights castles controlled by active creeps, one of two power hungry Prince's, or a cult member looking to resurrect a dark god. -Agustria: All started because Eldigan was captured by Chagall and Lachesis was being sieged by a creep's goons. Could've ignored Anphony castle (the top left in Chapter 2), but they were actively threatening 10 villages (and more importantly the Bargain Ring). Lewyn points out that Sigurd has pushed too far and acted too rash, but at that point peace would've been futile and put more lives at risk. Sigurd was also ordered to keep up his advance directly by his king, but even if not any peace with Chagall wouldn't have meant anything. This can be seen in... -Agustria (again): A lot quicker to explain. Sigurd is ordered to hold the capital of Agustria, Chagall orders one city's forces and then his own to advance anyway, Pirates put citizens at risk so gotta clean those guys up too. It is actively shown that Sigurd does not want to be in Agustria anymore. -Silesse: Sigurd isn't there by choice, any moves he makes are either in defense of the land he has been given during Silesse's civil war or by direct order of the queen of Silesse, aka the person who is harboring him. -Granvale: awful situation to be in, but Sigurd had to either go on the offensive and make himself out to be against the crown, or wait for war to come to him and a Silesse which has nothing to do with his struggles. When he engages in forces trying to kill his father, who with his dying breath confirms the conspiracy against them, you can see why Sigurd and troops march on. Not to mention the list of personal grudges or desires within his forces at this point; Aideen, Brigid, Erin, AND Lewyn want Andre dead for directly causing the death of loved ones, Lex wants his father dead for killing the king, Azel wants to talk to his brother and figure out what's going on, Tailtiu needs to confront her dad, Lachesis wants her home back and to see Finn again, Claud foresaw all events and is going along with them, Chalphy boys prob wanna go home, and everyone else is either tied up by relationships, romantic or otherwise, or loyal to their last breath. Also tell me that the meteor mages AND wyverns in the desert weren't on the naughty list themselves... Sigurd's biggest flaw was that he was a strong and good hearted character in a world where that's not enough to get the right thing done. Heck, Arvis was verifiably a great leader before the Loptyrians took over but I wouldn't exactly praise the path he took or the choices he made. But that's just my POV on the events.
True while it's easy to say the " Sigurd could have stopped that's ignoring his actual situation at any time" the truth is that wasn't the moral choice to make in his situation.
Good list Axomm! I have no objections to any of your choices. In slight defense of Corrin, (s)he was locked in a tower for a long time and was always being served by servants. That would make most anyone pretty naive and then make poor decisions. Still, I agree with Corrin being on the naughty list
Hector being on the naughty list just cuz he got very upset at Jafar (which is very reasonable. I would absolutely despise any guy who killed my bro's wife) and has "innate anger"(I really disagree with this. He's just hotheaded at times) is absolutely insane. I feel like the anger he displays toward Jafar is just as bad as the anger Lyn shows to the bandits who killed her family. Ik this video is supposed to be lighthearted but this really bugs me and honestly I think most of these decisions were ridiculously surface level
Even if we go more in depth on it, I think Hector is still naughty list. Continuously disobeyed Uthers orders, putting all of the Lycian league at risk, is willing to empty the coffers for his adventure with eliwood and is only stopped by Oswin, constantly bickers with Lyn, (either because he like her or because he’s just antagonistic, either way that’s not a good quality). He obviously has kind moments too, like with nils in the desert and around Lilina, but I feel the naughty moments outrank the nice ones here.
At first I thought you were going to go back to Leif at the very end. Because it's so clear he's on the naughty list for all the war crimes. Missed opportunity lol.
Also Now Ephraim yes could be in the naughty list but he is just focus on offensive and get things done. Also Ephraim its just not strategy savvy of going with 4 people to the castle that has the boss and its full of guards. Thats one of the what what what I had with sacred stones, but also could be seen as balls of steel if you dont use your brain.
@@addambarcelos oh damn. I forgot about Leif ahahhaha. He’s definitely on the naughty list. Between making bad decisions and ignoring his advisors, costing one of them their life, he’s on the naughty list for sure
Man, we reached a point where Corrin gets even called a "bad" person despite trying his best to make peace... I know you guys really don't like him but at least be fair...
@@lightv700 he’s not bad, he’s just on the naughty list. Two completely different things. Person can be good be on the naughty list, which is exactly what Corrin is to me. I don’t think they’re intentionally being malicious, but their actions wind up hurting the group and the nations involved a lot more than help them
@@FireEmbros If we're basing the list off of good actions rather than good intentions I don't think many should be on the good list, like Eirika whose actions often hurt more than her brother's despite the difference in intentions...
Sigurd isn't on either list. He's the lump of coal Santa puts in the naughty Lord's socks.
Having lyn, eirika , and alear be where they are all makes sense. Ironically two of the three happen to be winter envoys in feh. I wonder if this means lyn will get to be one soon.
Merry Christmas! While Sigurd arguably ends up on the naughty list just because of what his deeds lead to more often than not (good intentions do not always lead to good deeds), I don't think he's a bad person. His campaigns go on way too long, but most of the time that's out of his control.
-Verdane: When they're not invading his home, Sigurd fights castles controlled by active creeps, one of two power hungry Prince's, or a cult member looking to resurrect a dark god.
-Agustria: All started because Eldigan was captured by Chagall and Lachesis was being sieged by a creep's goons. Could've ignored Anphony castle (the top left in Chapter 2), but they were actively threatening 10 villages (and more importantly the Bargain Ring). Lewyn points out that Sigurd has pushed too far and acted too rash, but at that point peace would've been futile and put more lives at risk. Sigurd was also ordered to keep up his advance directly by his king, but even if not any peace with Chagall wouldn't have meant anything. This can be seen in...
-Agustria (again): A lot quicker to explain. Sigurd is ordered to hold the capital of Agustria, Chagall orders one city's forces and then his own to advance anyway, Pirates put citizens at risk so gotta clean those guys up too. It is actively shown that Sigurd does not want to be in Agustria anymore.
-Silesse: Sigurd isn't there by choice, any moves he makes are either in defense of the land he has been given during Silesse's civil war or by direct order of the queen of Silesse, aka the person who is harboring him.
-Granvale: awful situation to be in, but Sigurd had to either go on the offensive and make himself out to be against the crown, or wait for war to come to him and a Silesse which has nothing to do with his struggles. When he engages in forces trying to kill his father, who with his dying breath confirms the conspiracy against them, you can see why Sigurd and troops march on. Not to mention the list of personal grudges or desires within his forces at this point; Aideen, Brigid, Erin, AND Lewyn want Andre dead for directly causing the death of loved ones, Lex wants his father dead for killing the king, Azel wants to talk to his brother and figure out what's going on, Tailtiu needs to confront her dad, Lachesis wants her home back and to see Finn again, Claud foresaw all events and is going along with them, Chalphy boys prob wanna go home, and everyone else is either tied up by relationships, romantic or otherwise, or loyal to their last breath. Also tell me that the meteor mages AND wyverns in the desert weren't on the naughty list themselves...
Sigurd's biggest flaw was that he was a strong and good hearted character in a world where that's not enough to get the right thing done. Heck, Arvis was verifiably a great leader before the Loptyrians took over but I wouldn't exactly praise the path he took or the choices he made.
But that's just my POV on the events.
True while it's easy to say the " Sigurd could have stopped that's ignoring his actual situation at any time" the truth is that wasn't the moral choice to make in his situation.
Good choice on lyn
Lyn always on the good list!! Thank you for the super thanks!!!
Good list Axomm! I have no objections to any of your choices. In slight defense of Corrin, (s)he was locked in a tower for a long time and was always being served by servants. That would make most anyone pretty naive and then make poor decisions. Still, I agree with Corrin being on the naughty list
Hector being on the naughty list just cuz he got very upset at Jafar (which is very reasonable. I would absolutely despise any guy who killed my bro's wife) and has "innate anger"(I really disagree with this. He's just hotheaded at times) is absolutely insane. I feel like the anger he displays toward Jafar is just as bad as the anger Lyn shows to the bandits who killed her family. Ik this video is supposed to be lighthearted but this really bugs me and honestly I think most of these decisions were ridiculously surface level
Even if we go more in depth on it, I think Hector is still naughty list. Continuously disobeyed Uthers orders, putting all of the Lycian league at risk, is willing to empty the coffers for his adventure with eliwood and is only stopped by Oswin, constantly bickers with Lyn, (either because he like her or because he’s just antagonistic, either way that’s not a good quality). He obviously has kind moments too, like with nils in the desert and around Lilina, but I feel the naughty moments outrank the nice ones here.
@@FireEmbros yeah with those reasons it makes a lot more sense but the original reasons in the video feel very half assed
Glad you put Lyn on the nice list! There may have been trouble!
Hi, Hector on the naughty list bro for real. He is a nice guy. Merry xmas and thanks for the videos.
Peak vid bro, Merry Christmas! God bless ya and Jesus loves ya!
At first I thought you were going to go back to Leif at the very end. Because it's so clear he's on the naughty list for all the war crimes. Missed opportunity lol.
@@GreatAether58 I 100% forgot Leif and that’s on me , but he’s ont the naughty list for sure
I would have similar takes, especially on Micaiah. Anyone saying she is a "good" girl in that sense are out of their mind :D
Yes let's go Lyn
Also Now Ephraim yes could be in the naughty list but he is just focus on offensive and get things done. Also Ephraim its just not strategy savvy of going with 4 people to the castle that has the boss and its full of guards. Thats one of the what what what I had with sacred stones, but also could be seen as balls of steel if you dont use your brain.
Merry christmas, man o/.
Btw, what about leif? Should he be on the naughty or nice list?
@@addambarcelos oh damn. I forgot about Leif ahahhaha. He’s definitely on the naughty list. Between making bad decisions and ignoring his advisors, costing one of them their life, he’s on the naughty list for sure
Man, we reached a point where Corrin gets even called a "bad" person despite trying his best to make peace... I know you guys really don't like him but at least be fair...
@@lightv700 he’s not bad, he’s just on the naughty list. Two completely different things. Person can be good be on the naughty list, which is exactly what Corrin is to me. I don’t think they’re intentionally being malicious, but their actions wind up hurting the group and the nations involved a lot more than help them
@@FireEmbros If we're basing the list off of good actions rather than good intentions I don't think many should be on the good list, like Eirika whose actions often hurt more than her brother's despite the difference in intentions...
And Byleth picks favorites! Claude is the the only lord that can survive every route!