I agree I’m more into classic physique but the open class is wild and a good spectacle to watch both have their fandoms but anyone that loves bodybuilding loves to watch all the categories
Corey Bernard you’re talking about the same people who had Mike O’Hearn star in a documentary about natural bodybuilding. Not what I would call the most upstanding organization. 🤣🤣🤣
Honestly I’m being honest here Chris looks like shit IMO only due to the fact that he just does not compare to any classic bodybuilder I’ve ever seen lol, Ed corney? Franco? Serge? Cmon guys this “classic physique” thing is not hitting the mark, not yet at least, calum came very close to reaching that classic look
@@lunaticiousofficial7210 why the hell would I want to reach that "level"? Did you not read my comment kid, they look horrible. And I'm a mixed martial artist, being that big would impede my fighting abilities. A huge muscled guy went to my gym once and didn't even go a whole round sparring, my friend who was a Muay Thai fighter finished him in two minutes. He was way smaller than him at about 5'8, the wannabee Jay Cutler was about 6'0 and we never saw him again. What's the point of being that big and looking that ridiculous if you're a pu**y who can't fight and will get beat up by men way smaller than you.
Very true, I would love to look like and am working on a classic physique but watching the mass monsters push the limits of the body is fascinating af.
💯 exactly what I thought when I saw Roelly at the Arnold’s, I was impressed with the shear width of a human. But then I saw Calum Von Moger and to me that’s a body I would prefer:
No disrespect to Jay, he’s a legend, but when people envision the physique of the gods you think of the classic bodybuilding aesthetic. Zane, Arnold etc.
@@daddydeluxe8125 Anyone who wears athletic clothes as a apart their everyday outifts when there are perfectly great designers i.e. Tom Ford, Salvatore Ferragamo, Louis Vuitton, etc., opinion isn't valid lol
@@daddydeluxe8125 anybody that cares about what other men wear to the gym shouldn't be on a bodybuilding channel maybe Paris fashion week would be better suited for you.
@@ygbodybuilder3023 Bumstead is what the mass majority wants to look like. To the average person Bodybuilding is a joke, they see mass monsters with big guts and to them it looks shit. Literally over 99% of the world prefer the era with Arnold instead of rewarding people just because they are bigger. With the aesthetics of classic physique, bodybuilding is increasing in following vastly because people actually want to look like that. Classic physique will be the future of bodybuilding, still will be an open class but they are start going to reward more aesthetic physiques in open like Patrick Moore
@@T0YCHEST 212 is mainly for shorter guys. Most of them carry the same amount of muscle on their frame as open guys do. They are competing in 212 because it gives them better chance of winning. Look at Flex Lewis 2017 Mr Olympia if he was in the open division he would still be top 10 for sure but in 212 there's not as big completion as in the open.
Almost every open class pro bodybuilder: I got into bodybuilding because of Pumping Iron or Arnold Also open class bodybuilders: CLaSsiC PhYsiQuE iS BoRiNG
To sum up from Jay: My body type is only type that really matters, thick and blocky is inevitable because of bending, lifting, heavy weight, never heard of distaste for bubble guts or appreciation of aesthetics.
@@dannytymus1652 Didn't. Only point is he is heavily biased toward his own type and not acknowledging how it's unappealing when the waist/gut gets out of hand, which is why Arnold and a lot of others have complained about it.
I like the newer divisions. Every guy in open and 212 has the same stubby wide look. The point of classic and men’s physique is to showcase guys with different body types and shapes. Not everyone wants to see bloated mass monsters. I like seeing the vacuums and other classic style poses. Jay seems oddly butthurt in this for some reason.
No excitement? I look forward to seeing Cbum, Wesley Vissers, Logan Franklin etc on stage. Classic is filled with exciting prospects. If anything Open has become stale. Nobody wants to see bubble guts and sh*tty conditioning.
90s and 00s were too good too many champions... so many amazing massive huge bodybuilders that looked good. Wheeler leverone Yates ruhl dillet list goes on
Jadd Cavalberry Zane was a an aesthetic sculpture straight out of the mind of michaelangelo. I can’t stand the balloons that are on stage these days. Can’t even get through a posing routine without being completely out of breath
I like the change in Jay's perspective over the last few months with the rise in competition in the classic division. His interview with Palumbo recently showed he has respect for the goal and athletes in the Classic and 212 divisions.
Serious question why do men's physique competitors do that camp thing with their arm when posing it's completely distracting. Also why do they make you wear early 2000s board shorts that drown out the whole Physique?
@@marcellowheeler88 nobody has worn those shorts on beaches since early 2000s though and normally stick thin surfer guys not in shape athletic guys... Makes no sense
Bodybuilding would be much more popular today if they had 80s, early 90s physiques. Nobody outside of a niche group of bodybuilders wants to fucking see a bloated bubble gut unconditioned quadzillas Ifbb really fucked themselves with men’s open cause vast majority of people don’t wanna see that Phil Heath roelly winklaar bullshit
GZxNASTY I get what you mean but when I said more popular I meant with people that don’t follow bodybuilding. It would inspire more people to workout and follow the ifbb if the most awarded physiques were more god-like than straight up satanic
As he said before all this propaganda, it’s his opinion. I am more of a classic physique individual. But I don’t see anything wrong with what he saying....The most important take away is that he’s saying that the bodybuilding world is a little confused right now and then 3 to 5 years they should have more of an idea of what they want and at that point it’ll make this interview for him look good. Very well spoken.
"The waist gets bigger with all the heavy core work we do and all the heavy lifting" and all the insulin you inject too. Personally, the excitement is in seeing those small waists and everything flaring from that. That's what made bodybuilding aesthetic and desirable back in the day. Guys like Robby Robinson, Frank Zane, Brian Buchanan and even Arnold, while he had a relatively bigger waist in that day, his 3/4 back shot and side chest pose started from that twist that made his waist look tiny relative to his thighs and upper body. The look today of the bloated stomachs and oversized thighs is too much imho. When a man's head starts to look like a speck, the sport or art has gone too far.
'''There's No Excitement To The Classic Physique Division'' taking one sentence out an an entire interview to make it sound like Jay hates classic physique
@@brandontovar2978 Yes but they choose this phrase as a title for clickbait even though it convey the wrong tone. He said it in a context where doesn't seem like he diminish Classic Physic but the phrase was choose isolated to seem like it does and they know it. It's the default way that media works. It gives more clicks but damage credibility and people's image.
As an amateur theres no excitement looking at pregnant open competitors talking about eating the same exact diet. More like Gorillas vs Lions. My opinion
As a bodybuilder, the simple fact is it takes alot longer and is much much more difficult to be an mens open bb. Men's classic etc are just divisions for those they can't put on the size to be in men's open. But it's also a competition men can compete in on their way to men's open. Otherwise we'd be training for 10 years+ etc and not being able to compete. With all these new divisions it brings in more people to compete because there is basically a division for every level. From no muscle at all all the way up to men's open Olympia. There's nothing wrong with it, it brings people in and makes the sport bigger which is what we want and need. I do however have a problem with people ridiculing other classes because they themselves aren't in that class. Men's classic and classes alike got in to it because they like training and they want to be bigger and better looking than everyone else. Men's open is the same thing, they're just bigger. A lot bigger. And that's the definition of bodybuilding. Building the body to reach its maximum potential.
In the end, it's an argument of art that breaks traditional boundaries vs art that conforms to these boundaries. At the highest level, both can inspire and generate awe in people to those who witness them.
I wish they would put more into the classic physique. Symmetry, precision, and the art of bodybuilding is a beautiful thing. Bigger isn't always better.
Make Bodybuilding Great Again. Remove the weight cap from classic and classic will force open to keep and get it together. I haven’t had a single other guy my age say he’s going for open for a reason. I want our generation to bring back Mass with Class
There is 15 Mr. Olympias but in reality Platz was robbed in 81, Nasser in 97, Gunter in 02, and Victor in 07. You could also make an argument that Shawn Ray should have also won in 94 which I agree with.
@@EvangelistRBColbert no I don't think so in my and many others opinions Samir 100% deserved to win the Olympia in 83 he looked outstanding. Bertial Foxx also looked great no doubt and should have been 2nd place in 1983 but he did not deserve to win he deserved 2nd not 5th for sure🙌👊🏼
I love jay and what he’s doing these days. He’s full of knowledge and wisdom on how to sculpt your body. However, classic physique will ALWAYS be better than these mass monsters you see at the Olympias.
The difference in the divisions is in the name. All of you claiming that bodybuilding should be the classic physique class, I’m sorry but you are physique fanatics. Men’s open is about building the body to its full potential which is exactly what the open competitors are doing. It’s not about aesthetics, it’s about mass
Hm, if you don’t want to see an insulin filled , hgh gut, science experiment gone wrong, freak... you’re a soy boy U seem insecure about your masculinity going around projecting “soy boys” onto others
I trust whatever Jay says. He is right. With the judges now taking things like overtly distended midsections into account , we are going to see a more streamlined slightly on the aesthetic side type of open bodybuilding in times to come.
Regarding heights, the guys in the Open certainly have their share of shorter competitors, Flex (5’5), Bonac (5’6), Roelly (5’6.5), Dex (5’7), etc. These guys are going up against much taller competitors like Ramy (5’10), Juan (5’11), Antoine (6’0) and Cedric who is over 6’0. So there is always going to be that discrepancy with height regardless of division imho.
Honestly, we should always have the shows for the biggest freaks. I can be the best I can be but I honestly don't want to go up to 300 lbs to compete with the top guys. I don't have the genetics for being that big and alive for long.
Few guys are hyper responders. AAS don’t work the same on everybody, but these open guys, they also respond abnormally to peptides. IGF1 receptors make them huge outside and unfortunately inside.
The people who think classic physique is "the way it should be", these same people want to see a 6'5" monster dunk over three guys, they want to see a 250lbs NFL beast run 40 yards in 4.5 sec and obliterate a ball carrier, they want to see Brock Lesnar vs Cain Valesquez, they want to watch Michael Phelps soar through the water like he's half mermaid. But these people think open bodybuilding is a freak show? Get real. You wouldn't watch amateur bodybuilding show, you don't watch high school football, you don't watch local amateur MMA fights. Stop pretending like you're all about the "lil guys". You want the freak spectacle! It's why we watch sports.
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open - what people wanna watch.
classic/men's physique - what people wanna look like.
Great point !
That’s facts
Nailed it right there
Excellent way to put it!
This is the most accurate description I’ve seen so far of the difference between the two.
You know small waist, v taper, x frame, great proportions, you know EXACTLY WHAT BODYBUILDING SHOULD BE!
*being in shape x 110%
I agree I’m more into classic physique but the open class is wild and a good spectacle to watch both have their fandoms but anyone that loves bodybuilding loves to watch all the categories
Said nb ever
v taper and skinny ? no thanks
@@F_antomas what planet are you on to associate v taper and x frame with skinny?
Say NO to bubble gut, Classic ftw.
Every body like classic because they can't huge like Phil Ronnie and ramy👍
I mean atleast people like ramy don't have bubble gut
@@johnnydeefan8807 no because of this time he shows his best physic
Classic kinda boring tbh.
When your tummy rivals your chest for how far it sticks out it feels good.
This interview was 2 years old when classic was barely starting.
How disingenuous to put this out as if he is saying this now.
Typical generation iron, always never truthful and straight
Corey Bernard you’re talking about the same people who had Mike O’Hearn star in a documentary about natural bodybuilding. Not what I would call the most upstanding organization. 🤣🤣🤣
Mississippi Pitbull HAHAHA!! So true. That whole thing was an absolute joke!
ok so 1-3 years people will start transferring to open class
That puts it in context, and it makes total sense, my argument to this video is that a newly created division will not be exciting for a while.
Chris Bumstead looks incredible this year 😲😲
Honestly I’m being honest here Chris looks like shit IMO only due to the fact that he just does not compare to any classic bodybuilder I’ve ever seen lol, Ed corney? Franco? Serge? Cmon guys this “classic physique” thing is not hitting the mark, not yet at least, calum came very close to reaching that classic look
@@samuelamezcua2105 bruh you probably got 30% body fat stop talking shit about Chris that man is a god
@@samuelamezcua2105 loser
@@samuelamezcua2105 calum literally went on stage and looked like garbage. Cbum and him aren’t even the same stratosphere
@@samuelamezcua2105 can't believe you put Cbum and Calum in same sentence
Is the interviewer talking from the toilet?
So true lol
practicing social distancing
Yeah
They didn't mic him up like they did jay
It’s fucking terrible.
The guy is clueless.
Classic is aesthetically pleasing, they look like superheroes.
The open looks like steroid filled bulky cows.
Ye sthey all take shit, some are just born to grow, others don't push it because the potential isn't there
Yeah both devisions take stuff I think open uses a lot more GH and insulin tho, which might be why they can't keep their waist size proportional
Its because you are a light weight and cant reach the level open bodybuilders have
The supervillain look
@@lunaticiousofficial7210 why the hell would I want to reach that "level"? Did you not read my comment kid, they look horrible. And I'm a mixed martial artist, being that big would impede my fighting abilities. A huge muscled guy went to my gym once and didn't even go a whole round sparring, my friend who was a Muay Thai fighter finished him in two minutes. He was way smaller than him at about 5'8, the wannabee Jay Cutler was about 6'0 and we never saw him again. What's the point of being that big and looking that ridiculous if you're a pu**y who can't fight and will get beat up by men way smaller than you.
"I think Jay Cutler smoking crack, ain't in his right mind"
- King Coleman
🤣
Hahahahha
LOL
😭😭
I think you are smoking dry cocaine that's why you don't know what he say . don't forget who is he 🙏
I rather look like Frank Zane than Kai Greene.
CLPmakesMEhappy no one gives a shit cause you can’t look like either even if you tried.
@@RubenRodriguez-si6qb oof who shat in your breakfast bro?
@@billyjones3404 I shat in his breakfast, big steamy pile of nut butter and he loved it.
Don’t worry bro
You’ll probably never look like either :D
And Frank Zane would rather look like Frank Zane and Kai Greene would rather look like Kai Greene. To each their own.
I kinda agree to be honest. Most people want to look "Classic", but most people want to watch "Mens Open".
Very true, I would love to look like and am working on a classic physique but watching the mass monsters push the limits of the body is fascinating af.
Exactly couldn’t have said it better
Yup, people like the almost sideshow freak look of the open guys because it's just so crazy how big they are.
💯 exactly what I thought when I saw Roelly at the Arnold’s, I was impressed with the shear width of a human. But then I saw Calum Von Moger and to me that’s a body I would prefer:
Facts
No disrespect to Jay, he’s a legend, but when people envision the physique of the gods you think of the classic bodybuilding aesthetic. Zane, Arnold etc.
No i don't speak for yourself lol
Steven Kane Haha point taken.
@@Lrcombs i did like them though. Thanks for serving btw!
They’ve gone beyond the physique of the gods and are more like action toys.
Steven Kane No worries my dude 🤙🏻 thanks for the support.
I don't think its lions vs mice, I think its more like lions vs panthers.
Tigers vs Bobcats
Carole Baskin Vs Tiger King
Hippo vs lions
Lions vs pussycats
Mia khalifa vs bbc
I really respect that Jay Cutler can now say that Ronnie Coleman is the greatest of all time. Mad respect for that!!👍
Agreed!
He would say that because it makes him look better knowing he eventually beat him. Every bodybuilder likes to think they had the best competition.
He later changed his mind and says its arni
He has always given Ronnie props it's in countless videos.
Nah Dorain Yates was The 🐐
*Incoming 140lbs 16 year olds who wear Gymshark*
At over 1 billion in value I doubt its just 140lb men wearing gym shark when they make up like 2-5% of male population...
Ashley Gaden anyone who wears gymsharks opinion isn’t valid
@@daddydeluxe8125 Anyone who wears athletic clothes as a apart their everyday outifts when there are perfectly great designers i.e. Tom Ford, Salvatore Ferragamo, Louis Vuitton, etc., opinion isn't valid lol
@@daddydeluxe8125 anybody that cares about what other men wear to the gym shouldn't be on a bodybuilding channel maybe Paris fashion week would be better suited for you.
LOL @oliver Whittaker best coming I’ve read in a while
Jay knows he is great, speaks from a position of greatness, and yet sounds humble and down to earth. All of my respect for him.
Right. Looking at giant muscles while 9 months pregnant is great.
LMFAO. Requires more effort and responsibilities
Man when jay said “flex Lewis will never win mr Olympia .. he is to short” I felt that ... I’m 5’4 😂
flex can win the open mr o jays talking shit
Me too. But we can't say that. Look at lee priest
“Dexter Jackson is a lot taller than Flex Lewis”, it’s 2cm dif lol
He is wrong too
6:39
This has to be an older interview, today classic is much more competitive than 3 year ago.
No cuz he mentioned Dexter who is 50 now
Pretty sure it's older yeah Jay doesnt really look like this anymore
@@antoinesauve2695 he looks exactly like this. He's on TH-cam
@@BParker55 i was talking to him 3 weeks ago at the gym. He looks like this to me
Definitely an older interview. Regan decided to go back to open quite a while ago.
The Classic Division helped save bodybuilding...
No. it helped guys who couldn't make it in the open
Yg Bodybuilder thats the 212, u can see that classic is taking a new route with c bum
@@T0YCHEST bumpstead sucks
@@ygbodybuilder3023 Bumstead is what the mass majority wants to look like. To the average person Bodybuilding is a joke, they see mass monsters with big guts and to them it looks shit. Literally over 99% of the world prefer the era with Arnold instead of rewarding people just because they are bigger. With the aesthetics of classic physique, bodybuilding is increasing in following vastly because people actually want to look like that. Classic physique will be the future of bodybuilding, still will be an open class but they are start going to reward more aesthetic physiques in open like Patrick Moore
@@T0YCHEST 212 is mainly for shorter guys. Most of them carry the same amount of muscle on their frame as open guys do. They are competing in 212 because it gives them better chance of winning. Look at Flex Lewis 2017 Mr Olympia if he was in the open division he would still be top 10 for sure but in 212 there's not as big completion as in the open.
All the gymshark natties on here big mad
Hahaha
LOL fax
gymshark posers are the type to take massive doses of Tren and still have a naturally obtainable physique.
Almost every open class pro bodybuilder: I got into bodybuilding because of Pumping Iron or Arnold
Also open class bodybuilders: CLaSsiC PhYsiQuE iS BoRiNG
Gotta love how straight faced jay is all the time haha he’s more
Pro than a pro lmao 😂
Jay is always straight business. (っ▀¯▀)つ
Lol... I yeah Jay is the "straight type of guy" no deviating and laughing. I wonder if he's like that in his house with his family
@@tazz5406 Appears so if you follow his channel, he is at home in quite a few of them
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
To sum up from Jay: My body type is only type that really matters, thick and blocky is inevitable because of bending, lifting, heavy weight, never heard of distaste for bubble guts or appreciation of aesthetics.
@@dannytymus1652 No duh
@@dannytymus1652 Didn't. Only point is he is heavily biased toward his own type and not acknowledging how it's unappealing when the waist/gut gets out of hand, which is why Arnold and a lot of others have complained about it.
I like the newer divisions. Every guy in open and 212 has the same stubby wide look. The point of classic and men’s physique is to showcase guys with different body types and shapes. Not everyone wants to see bloated mass monsters. I like seeing the vacuums and other classic style poses. Jay seems oddly butthurt in this for some reason.
Everyone in classic looks the same. Much more so than men's open.
He is jealous of cbums popularity
Jay seems like that uncles/teacher/coach that makes you nervous as shit in a good way, to always do your best.
No excitement? I look forward to seeing Cbum, Wesley Vissers, Logan Franklin etc on stage. Classic is filled with exciting prospects. If anything Open has become stale. Nobody wants to see bubble guts and sh*tty conditioning.
This is also an old interview from 2 years ago. Not recently.
Why has everybody been all high on vissers? I never understood what the hype was about.
Who
classic is what you wish to see from open!
Agree to disagree
No is not! I want to see mosters, freaks of nature, huge bodybuilders not bodybuilders with 70s physiques. I do not care if they have a gut or not.
Charles Huang I prefer hard, mass. Yes old school was nice, but it’s been widely said that it’s easier to obtain. I want that extremem stuff
Charles Huang good for you, don’t watch open or 212 and stick to classic then. And don’t try to force your opinion on people.
90s and 00s were too good too many champions... so many amazing massive huge bodybuilders that looked good. Wheeler leverone Yates ruhl dillet list goes on
RUUUUUUUUUUHLLLL!!
That was the beginning of the circus we see today. Nothing gets better than the 70’s and 80’s
Jadd Cavalberry Zane was a an aesthetic sculpture straight out of the mind of michaelangelo. I can’t stand the balloons that are on stage these days. Can’t even get through a posing routine without being completely out of breath
I want to see a circus 🎪 or I’m not happy.
Priest.....
Mad respect for big jay, always keeping it real, but respectful at the same time
Actually yes the classic division is the only one I watch. Arnold actually had a classic build
“I gained 50lbs in the first year, 6mo actually...” - Jay
Holy shit, Jay! Now I don’t want to go to the gym...
Right like how....i need to step in my training
Classic Bodybuilding, no bubbleguts, this is how bodybuilders should look, a body type you would want to have💪.
I like the change in Jay's perspective over the last few months with the rise in competition in the classic division. His interview with Palumbo recently showed he has respect for the goal and athletes in the Classic and 212 divisions.
I'd much rather watch classic. Its an art form, the routines are beautiful. Men's open gets up there and begs for a crowd response
Wrong
Actually, its kinda like the other way around what you said
I'm a proud Men's Physique competitor. These were his comments on his opinion. Great interview. The lion and mice thing was harsh though lol
Serious question why do men's physique competitors do that camp thing with their arm when posing it's completely distracting. Also why do they make you wear early 2000s board shorts that drown out the whole Physique?
@@henrycooper4213 The division was created for guys wanting to get into bodybuilding, and they look for a "on the beach" look hence the shorts.
@@marcellowheeler88 nobody has worn those shorts on beaches since early 2000s though and normally stick thin surfer guys not in shape athletic guys... Makes no sense
@@henrycooper4213 well that's something you gotta talk to the ifbb/npc about. That's what the division was created for.
Jay cutler is as real as a person gets. Gives you the truth raw an unfiltered. I respect what had to say in this interview.
Yeah I agree with Jay. While classic might be what we all want to look like, I want to watch the freak show.
I'm good.
Bodybuilding would be much more popular today if they had 80s, early 90s physiques. Nobody outside of a niche group of bodybuilders wants to fucking see a bloated bubble gut unconditioned quadzillas
Ifbb really fucked themselves with men’s open cause vast majority of people don’t wanna see that Phil Heath roelly winklaar bullshit
Charles you should post this as a general comment
Charles hmm
GZxNASTY I get what you mean but when I said more popular I meant with people that don’t follow bodybuilding. It would inspire more people to workout and follow the ifbb if the most awarded physiques were more god-like than straight up satanic
The more I listen to Cutler, the more I appreciate his point of view. Him and Yates are two of the great ambassadors of the sport.
Can't compare the god that is Yates to Cutler!
@@andylindsay6078 yates was really handsome in his prime, looked like a bond character. Jay is just a chill dude that everyone can have a beer with
Seems like most of the comments disagree, but no one wants to downvote the Champ! 😁👍🏻
Yeah bruh he’s goated, we gotta respect the legends.
Close your eyes. Peter griffin. You cant unhear this.
Hahahahaha yep
Im a classic guy myself.but nothing beats open. And waists in open is good again, No more Bubble guts
It's like Ronnie said, "Everyone wants to be a bodybuilder but nobody wants to lift heavy ass weight"
LIKE LEE HANEY SAID, A BODYBUILDER IS NOT A POWERLIFTER!
As he said before all this propaganda, it’s his opinion. I am more of a classic physique individual. But I don’t see anything wrong with what he saying....The most important take away is that he’s saying that the bodybuilding world is a little confused right now and then 3 to 5 years they should have more of an idea of what they want and at that point it’ll make this interview for him look good. Very well spoken.
Jay is such a good interview. Man tells it like it is. No bs just the truth.
Classic means a lot less drugs. Guys like Cutler dont care how much they pump in themselves. Arnold took less than the average gym rat today
Drugs is drugs. They all took drugs. Yeah yo get bigger means more drugs. It's all drugs.
The best ambassador ever jay cuts cutler. 2009 unbeatable. Greatness.
The classic physique of now is different in that they're more shredded an actually have bigger legs than back in the 1970s an early 1980s.
True b/c they have more knowledge in what they are taking.
I feel like classic picks up from where the 90’s left off before Dorian ushered in the mass monster bubble gut trend.
I love how he added ronnie coleman in there. Respect, Jay
Last I check of the responses from Olympia 2020, Chris Bumstead just made Classic Physique more exciting than men's open.
I really enjoy listening to Jay in his retirement, very thoughtful and wise. You wouldn't expect that if you watched a Ronnie Coleman interview first.
The sound quality reminded me of Charlie Brown talking to his parents.
hahahahahah
For some guys like me, I couldn't add much size till my 40s. My metabolism was so fast in my teens and 20s that there was no way to gain mass.
It seems like Jay talking to himself after hearing the interviewer in the beginning 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
JAY CUTLER on Open Bodybuilding VS Classic Physic “Everyone wants to see the Lions fight they don’t wanna watch the mice fight” 😂
The future of bodybuilding is the Classic Physique division 💪🏻
Flex Lewis is a inch shorter then dexter Jackson, not gonna lie jay cutler just being disrespectful rn
And it took Dexter nearly* 20 years to win just 1 Olympia, Flex has no chance.
Now i want dr greg to react to this🤣
Holy smokes, who’s interviewing Jay, his Grandson?
It me interviewing him. No excuses baby we’re freaks
"The waist gets bigger with all the heavy core work we do and all the heavy lifting" and all the insulin you inject too. Personally, the excitement is in seeing those small waists and everything flaring from that. That's what made bodybuilding aesthetic and desirable back in the day. Guys like Robby Robinson, Frank Zane, Brian Buchanan and even Arnold, while he had a relatively bigger waist in that day, his 3/4 back shot and side chest pose started from that twist that made his waist look tiny relative to his thighs and upper body. The look today of the bloated stomachs and oversized thighs is too much imho. When a man's head starts to look like a speck, the sport or art has gone too far.
'''There's No Excitement To The Classic Physique Division'' taking one sentence out an an entire interview to make it sound like Jay hates classic physique
Well I find excitement in keeping a healthy heart and liver.
using roids isnt good for your heart regardless of open and classic. They use less, but are still using huge doses in classic
This misleading title for clickbait hurts someone's image. Eventually athletes could deny interview to not be susceptible to this.
What do you mean he literally said what is in the title
@@brandontovar2978 Yes but they choose this phrase as a title for clickbait even though it convey the wrong tone. He said it in a context where doesn't seem like he diminish Classic Physic but the phrase was choose isolated to seem like it does and they know it. It's the default way that media works. It gives more clicks but damage credibility and people's image.
As an amateur theres no excitement looking at pregnant open competitors talking about eating the same exact diet. More like Gorillas vs Lions. My opinion
"There's a size difference between classic and mens open"
Hercules on stage CBum- allow me to compete on classic and mens open stage at the same time
I am a fan of Classic but I have to agree with Jay on this one...
excitement is in the bubble bubble gut
I'd rather watch classic it's the new open, Once you have a gut it's game over
Well explained by cutler! He kept it honest but doesn't disrespect either division because both have there differences.
The trophies are bugging me. Are the barbells bent? Or am I losing it?
Haha the one next to his right here definitely is bent. The far left one is bugging my eyes. It looks bent but when I stare at it it’s straight.
As a bodybuilder, the simple fact is it takes alot longer and is much much more difficult to be an mens open bb.
Men's classic etc are just divisions for those they can't put on the size to be in men's open. But it's also a competition men can compete in on their way to men's open. Otherwise we'd be training for 10 years+ etc and not being able to compete.
With all these new divisions it brings in more people to compete because there is basically a division for every level. From no muscle at all all the way up to men's open Olympia.
There's nothing wrong with it, it brings people in and makes the sport bigger which is what we want and need.
I do however have a problem with people ridiculing other classes because they themselves aren't in that class.
Men's classic and classes alike got in to it because they like training and they want to be bigger and better looking than everyone else. Men's open is the same thing, they're just bigger. A lot bigger. And that's the definition of bodybuilding.
Building the body to reach its maximum potential.
Not to mention the human growth hormone that is used liberally.
Jay didn't wanna touch on it but everybody knows that "everything grows" means HGH
In the end, it's an argument of art that breaks traditional boundaries vs art that conforms to these boundaries.
At the highest level, both can inspire and generate awe in people to those who witness them.
I wish they would put more into the classic physique. Symmetry, precision, and the art of bodybuilding is a beautiful thing. Bigger isn't always better.
Make Bodybuilding Great Again. Remove the weight cap from classic and classic will force open to keep and get it together. I haven’t had a single other guy my age say he’s going for open for a reason. I want our generation to bring back Mass with Class
Classic is WAY better then bodybuilding
You mean men's open physique. Classic is bodybuilding.
It’s also way easier lol
There is 15 Mr. Olympias but in reality Platz was robbed in 81, Nasser in 97, Gunter in 02, and Victor in 07. You could also make an argument that Shawn Ray should have also won in 94 which I agree with.
Bertil Fox should have won in 83.
@@EvangelistRBColbert no I don't think so in my and many others opinions Samir 100% deserved to win the Olympia in 83 he looked outstanding. Bertial Foxx also looked great no doubt and should have been 2nd place in 1983 but he did not deserve to win he deserved 2nd not 5th for sure🙌👊🏼
Looks like classic is starting to pick up more traction🤔👀
I love jay and what he’s doing these days. He’s full of knowledge and wisdom on how to sculpt your body. However, classic physique will ALWAYS be better than these mass monsters you see at the Olympias.
WHO WILL WIN? GODS OR MONSTERS? Coming out this June
I already know nick’s strength and power is gonna cover this
The difference in the divisions is in the name. All of you claiming that bodybuilding should be the classic physique class, I’m sorry but you are physique fanatics. Men’s open is about building the body to its full potential which is exactly what the open competitors are doing. It’s not about aesthetics, it’s about mass
Classic is way above and beyond bodybuilding nowadays! All the bloated stomachs is out of control now!
The bunstead breon battle of the last two years has been better for bb than the fiasco of 19/20/21 open
He's 100% Right.. so many Soy boys in the Comments section
Hm, if you don’t want to see an insulin filled , hgh gut, science experiment gone wrong, freak... you’re a soy boy
U seem insecure about your masculinity going around projecting “soy boys” onto others
I trust whatever Jay says. He is right. With the judges now taking things like overtly distended midsections into account , we are going to see a more streamlined slightly on the aesthetic side type of open bodybuilding in times to come.
He’s right. We buy tickets to see the lions!
if they lion and classic mice it makes u insect
I don’t, I prefer to look at a physique without a bubble gut
Only dumb pays to watch half naked guys with bubble gut on stage. 😂
Conflicted between liking the video because Jay Cutler and not because Generation Iron.
It’s weird hearing a legend say “I’m trying to loose muscle.”
Stay healthy Jay!
Classic Physique looks amazing. It looks 10,000 x better than the bloated mess of the Heavyweight division.
Ronnie from another planet lol - Jay 😂
Classic is what we want to be, Open is what we want to see.
There not a single nucleus of BS in this man. The most intelligent Bodybuilder ever.
Regarding heights, the guys in the Open certainly have their share of shorter competitors, Flex (5’5), Bonac (5’6), Roelly (5’6.5), Dex (5’7), etc. These guys are going up against much taller competitors like Ramy (5’10), Juan (5’11), Antoine (6’0) and Cedric who is over 6’0. So there is always going to be that discrepancy with height regardless of division imho.
men like to watch open
men want to look like classic
women like men's physique
FRANCO COLUMBU WAS 5'5 OR 5'6 & HE WON THE OLYMPIA TWICE IN 1976 & 1981
7:13 three months later, Big Ramy wins the Olympia beating one of the greats on his huge flop of a return!
Honestly, we should always have the shows for the biggest freaks. I can be the best I can be but I honestly don't want to go up to 300 lbs to compete with the top guys. I don't have the genetics for being that big and alive for long.
"they wanna watch the lions fight they don't want to watch the mice fight" 5:17
cutler just murdered the entire physique division
Few guys are hyper responders. AAS don’t work the same on everybody, but these open guys, they also respond abnormally to peptides. IGF1 receptors make them huge outside and unfortunately inside.
Because there’s no fridge-like waist like you and bubble guts like Ronnie. Keep staying relevant Jay
so who are your top 3 favorite classic physique competitors?
carnaldesires1 keone, cambronero and hoffmann. Hands down
Hes the greatest of all time shut ur mouth
The people who think classic physique is "the way it should be", these same people want to see a 6'5" monster dunk over three guys, they want to see a 250lbs NFL beast run 40 yards in 4.5 sec and obliterate a ball carrier, they want to see Brock Lesnar vs Cain Valesquez, they want to watch Michael Phelps soar through the water like he's half mermaid.
But these people think open bodybuilding is a freak show? Get real. You wouldn't watch amateur bodybuilding show, you don't watch high school football, you don't watch local amateur MMA fights. Stop pretending like you're all about the "lil guys". You want the freak spectacle! It's why we watch sports.