I think the best explanation for “sweet child o mine” is Gorr trying to save his kids and wife from a famine by praying to the gods, to which the gods don’t respond and his family dies, hence the following lyric “where do we go now”. It sets up a connection with the villain and is a lot more logical for the movie.
I just wanna point something out. Children in Viking times actually had their last names as their fathers first name and then "son" or "dottir" depending on if they're a boy or a girl. So Thors last name is Odinson. So calling Angela Odindottir actually isn't just lame and unoriginal it's also historically accurate! The uhh... the vikings were not known for their subtlety Edit: as people in the comments pointed out these naming conventions don’t apply in modern times in most Scandinavian countries. Hope that clarifies things!
For a well known example. Leif Erikson (the Viking that actually discovered the Americas) was the son of Erik The Red (whose name was Erik Thorvaldson)
I believe that the "not subtle" part was her original given name Aldrif, which if you check the translation means "adrift". Also, Icelanders still keep that custom, and some even have a secondary surname based on their paternal grandfather (-sonar). In the case of single mothers (or divorced mothers that cut off all ties with the fahter), the name used in the surname is the mother's, and in the case of people whose father has a second name, they use the one their fathers is mostly known as. As a side note, they've recently added -bur as an alternative for people who register themselves as "gender neutral".
I mean, it’s not like the vikings invented patronymic naming; they have found Ancient Greek pottery shards with patronymic naming on them from the 5th century BC, where the earliest recorded northmen raids wasn’t until year 700-something AD. It is also used prevalent in Arabic naming traditions and many other naming traditions. :-) I am just a nerdy person with an interest in linguistics, so I just had to jump in and say that.
That awkward moment when MatPat theorizes a plot that has absolutely nothing to do with the actual film, but would’ve been leagues better than the actual movie we got😬😂
Real. If I was a movie director for marvel or DC I'd just drop a trailer, see what Matpat comes up with, and do that cause his idea would probably be cooler than what I had in mind
Fun fact: The “where do we go now?” break in the actual song Sweet Child of Mine exists because when they were writing the song they weren’t really sure what to do after the guitar solo ended.
The "blonde hair, blue eyes, girl from Thor's childhood" could potentially refer to Amora the Enchantress too. Which would be less crazy than the Phoenix and Angela theories
Phoenix would be weird since she is heavily X-Men and they haven't shown any signs of bringing them in yet. Angela was his sister in the comics which was done with Hela in the last movie so unless there is some stuff happening she's out too. Edit: OK, I really gotta watch the video more before replying to comments I see.
I actually think it references Thor's daughter, as in the Next Avengers. A new generation of heroes after all the contracts expired. Hawkeye explores a new generation rising as well.
To be fair a lot of people immediately pointed out that the song had a deeper meaning to the movie. My favorite being that the song Is from Gorr's point of view
As much as I would love to see Angela make a film appearance, Hela kind of already took her role last film. So if she does appear, it’ll likely be with an altered backstory.
Fun fact: the whole "Where do we go now?" thing came up when they were first writing and practicing the song and couldn't figure out what to put in the bridge. They started improvising and throwing spaghetti at the wall and the in joke stuck and made it into the final product.
I always wait to watch these til after the movie, especially since he’s been spot on recently with marvel. But happy to see he’s dead wrong with this one!
Spoilers: . . . . He came sooooo close though 😅 he thought of up (mother) and sideways (sister), all he had left to cover was the correct answer of down (daughter)
Hela already took the "secret sister who has been trapped in another dimension" origin in the MCU. It would be really disappointing for them to do that two movies in a row.
It was really disappointing that Marvel removed Lady Death, changed Thanos to a misguided ecoterrorist instead of the pinnacle of "That Guy Who Thinks Escalation Is The Solution To Every Problem" trying to make a girl love him by flexing on the universe, and retconned in Thor's secret sister instead. Blocking the introduction of Angela is just one more disappointment to add to the pile.
What about Sif? I know from cast lists available online that the Sif character is definitely going to be in this movie. She was a blonde goddess in Norse myth, although in the comics, her hair color was charged by a magic curse. She's also an old girlfriend of Thor's.
Now that I've seen this, having known nothing about Angela before (I'm not a comic reader), when he mentions she appears after a multiversal tear or whatever.. I don't think she's completely ruled out as making an appearance.
Calling her "Odinsdottir" is just following old Norse naming conventions. That custom only died out relatively recent, a few hundred years ago, as part of a modernization and streamlining program that led to the growth of the Swedish empire. With a growing modern military, things like everyone having the same last name started to become a bit of a problem
Many common last names in all of Scandinavia still carries this tradition. If any last name ends with -son or -sen, it’s stems from “son of” patronymic meaning. Also, it didn’t die out as a practice until maybe around 150 years ago; my grandfather’s generation was around the last ones to have patronymic naming in Denmark. Also, while I am not Icelandic, I do believe they still do use the patronymic tradition (and being the absolute badass feminists that they are, they also have matronymic naming as well!), because the Icelandic language is very close to old Norse and as such, the Icelandic people are good at keeping the oral traditions of Norse culture alive. To my knowledge, they name their daughters and sons differently and therefore still use -son for sons, -dóttir for daughters. I remember my professor at university (who is Icelandic) telling me that they do not change last names when they marry, as your spouse isn’t suddenly the son/daughter of your mother/father. As such, even siblings could have different “last names”. I am not sure if this is still the case in 2022, but it definitely was for my professor, who is around 40-ish years old now.
@@consberg1990 I can see if the Icelanders still do it, as they never really had a need to switch to the traditional Christian system like the Scandinavian Norse. I do believe it did continue in Scandinavia, but not as last names, rather being the same as the Russian patronymic system, where it's effectively the middle name. It's actually still tradition in Russia to call someone who is either older than you, or, in the military, a superior officer, by their first name and patronym. For example, if you watch Attraction, you'll see Artyom refer to Yulia's father, both Artyom's senior and a colonel, later general in the second movie, as "Valentin Yurievich"
Iceland still follows it. When they still had phone books, they were sorted by first name, because the -sson and -sdottir names aren't nearly as useful as a family name.
sadly I wouldn't bet on it. Both barely appear in Marvel comics, neither of them even reaching ten appearances, the perun that showed up wasn't even a god, just a super soldier who got killed in one hit. It's not impossible but I highly doubt it
Sweet Child of Mine could also be in reference to the loss of Gorr's family and unborn child. Just another theory that kinda fits, in a grim way. "Where do we go now?" could be in reference to Gorr's decent into madness after so much tragedy.
@@akale2620 😂 I fuckn love Cassie Cage lol. She just comes out of nowhere and steals my favourite characters (Liu Kang) whole schtick of being the chosen one. Yet I still end up loving her character. Best of the new mk characters imo.
I thought the song was in reference to Thor's daughter/s because he meets his descendants in the storyline they're adapting in this movie (three women), thanks to time travel shenanigans. The movie could introduce a child he had and didn't know about (maybe with Lady Syf) or outright have his daughter from the future show up.
"Odinsdottir, real subtle..." I mean, that's how Norse names worked, and still do in Iceland at least. The Prime Minister of Iceland for example is Katrín Jakobsdóttir.
I think he means in combination with her first name “aldrif”, at the bottom of the screen he put the translation of her full name as “adrift odin’s daughter”, so not just her last name (14:17)
What I’m most interested in is the prospect of The Necrosword. Gorr uses it in the comics gaining it from the defeated Knull, witch means Knull could be the next villain. I love this future
I'm a minute thirty seven second in and my guess it's about Gorr's child, who wasn't saved by the gods. Gorr's sweet child died and the God did nothing to stop it.
Something I think needs to be said is that thanks to the Darkhold being introduced in Wandavision after it was introduced in Agents of Shield, we could see Ghost Rider make an appearance in the MCU
@@Kinobambino he took the darkhold at the end of his season of Agents of Shield after they saw what dangerous power it has (it tricks a person into gaining god-like power while corrupting them). He made a sling ring portal with his chain and wasn’t seen or mentioned since
The whole bringing Jane as a kind of Goddess now, the sweet child thing and the fact that we already have Wanda's twins, a recast for Cassie and Kate bishop might be pointing us to Torunn as the sweet child. I know she's Sif's daughter but they could theoretically change things to make her Jane's and she would be a really cool addition to the Young Avengers lineup they seem to be forming.
9:37 Matt : "Right now, The Comic is left on a Cliffhanger, waiting for a Resolution." The TF2 Fandom still waiting for Their 7th Comic : _"Hey, I've seen this one before"_
Out of the topics conveyed in this video I am more inclined to believe the first one with the X-Men connection because they've already done the whole surprise sister plot with Ragnarok
@@superrooster18 if the guy who nearly killed Thanos with the full power of the Infinity Gauntlet is "weak" to you, you've gotta re-establish what you think the power levels are
I think the child could be gorr with the song choice being from his mother's pov and the the tone shift is a shift to gorrs prospective after his mother’s death
I doubt Angela will make an appearance, but it was hella awesome to hear her mentioned in this video. I've been an Angela fan for about 11 years, but haven't heard her mentioned since I first laid eyes on her comics. This was definitely a treat.
I really like watching these predictive theories and I'm looking forward to watching it since I just started the video, but I have to say I find it kind of weird that you haven't done any moon knight theories yet. Maybe one will come out soon to try and predict the last episode or two. Just something I noticed because you usually are all over the Disney plus shows.
Yeah i dont think the Phoenix will show up in the mcu just yet. The Phoenix then requires including the M’kran crystal and the host. So they would have to include a mutant. It could only work because of the Gods theme in the MCU but it would take a lot of build up. I think we will see Angela but briefly and probably at the end like they introduced Eros on the eternals. However, I would like to see Angela as the Queen of Asgard with Valkyrie. I would believe the Angela theory before the Phoenix theory.
Oh god if they actually adapted the phoenix bull that Aaron's been sticking in his awful Avengers run I think I'd cry, thankfully that's definitely not the case considering how recent it is
I dont see either of these being viable, one would think we would have heard of casting news or something if it was Angela - you forgot to even address Valkyrie who is going to play a very large role in the film. The phoenix force here would be too confusing for casual movie going audiences without some prior setup. They both seem like a real stretch.
@@hammerofluke2013 lol. Just a quick reminders, because these times, people are to much untertained and forget their purpose in this life. Sorry if it was random.
Who doesn't know about the Phoenix Force by now? We've had two crappy movies about it lol.I think fans of comic book movies are alot more informed than they once were. Would be a great way to introduce the X-men and set up Avengers vs X-Men as well. So my vote is that its the Phoenix Force. But it will probably be Angela unfortunately.
As someone who loves to watch NewRockstars and all their breakdowns and theories on marvel content, was very shocking and extremely nice to see eric in the video :D
Sorry, but I disagree here. The two theories were indeed incorrect, but the song IS relevant. It was all about Gorr's daughter, eventually becoming Thor's. So MattPat was right about the song "spoiling" the movie.
One of my favorite theories ever! Love Guns N’ Roses, so dissecting the song choice made me so happy and delighted to hear it wasn’t just for the catchiness
Wow, I’ve been playing Contest of Champions for YEARS now, and I had no idea that Angela was a recent addition to the comics from another publisher, sweet! Also, I love the fact that you referenced Contest of Champions, even though the game isn’t nearly as popular as it was anymore
The "Sweet Child" can be Thor's daughter. A sweet kid, reminds him of his own childhood, makes him emotional and makes him think about the future (where do we go?)
come to islam, and stop being utilitarian liberals or whatever the moral system or ideology you have. Islam is the only metaphysical and moral system that doesn't generate contradictions. Learn more through sheikh like othman ibn faroq or mohammed hijab or free books (Divine reality and the mirage of atheism, the Burhan, etc) ... and hopefully you guys will understand that this life is made temporary and ment to follow our desires, but to worship the necessary existence, self-sufficient, etc, who created us (through evolution or whatever the theory). There is only one god (Allah). He is not a contingent existence. He is unique and has no partners. He descended revelations to prophets such as Moses, Abraham, Jesus, and finally Mohammed peace be upon them all. Islam structures your life so your din, intellect, family and property is protected. It makes sense and its a way of life that will make you happier as a consequence. Paradise is for ever, this life is temporary, don't be blind. Its just a reminder for those who reflect.
@@MrHouloul god isn't real. every action is the result of all actions before it therefore concluding that free will is also a myth. you have been manipulated into following this religion because that's how you are kept in line. stop pushing your religion on other people you insufferable sheep.
You guys should do a theory on the owl house! Like maybe what he's planning? The paintings in the "hollow mind" episode seem to tell an interesting backstory maybe you guys could look at it?
Since this "Multiverse" thing is happening across comic producers Do you think the Amalgam comics will become movies or a tv show? *(The comics that combine DC comics and Marvel comics)*
@@JayC_x see, the Rat is Endgame, and even then, Clint was on the field~ how about when they lost? Clint wasn't there. Therefor, Clint is their lucky charm of victory.
Little Know Fact: In "Sweet Child" when they get to "where do we go now" that was actually the band asking where they take the song from there in the writing of it, but they had nothing so they just put that in. Look it up.
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I think the best explanation for “sweet child o mine” is Gorr trying to save his kids and wife from a famine by praying to the gods, to which the gods don’t respond and his family dies, hence the following lyric “where do we go now”. It sets up a connection with the villain and is a lot more logical for the movie.
What about in the gorr the god butcher comics (godbomb), that we literally saw thor's 3 daughters?
Another comment here I agree with AS WELL AS being the 69th like on both
@@Daltem Weren't they his granddaughters?
My thoughts exactly.
@@obikenobi8855 still means he had a child, and as Jane's in this film, there is a path
16:35 “Cap is gone, Tony is gone, Natasha is gone”
RIP. It’s even sadder when you’re being reminded that they’re gone.
There is no eastern bunny, there is no Santa cause, there is no queen of England! - megamind
Even sadder to see him miss Hawkeye
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@@zcat9721 it’s actually Titan, not Megamind
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I just wanna point something out. Children in Viking times actually had their last names as their fathers first name and then "son" or "dottir" depending on if they're a boy or a girl. So Thors last name is Odinson. So calling Angela Odindottir actually isn't just lame and unoriginal it's also historically accurate! The uhh... the vikings were not known for their subtlety
Edit: as people in the comments pointed out these naming conventions don’t apply in modern times in most Scandinavian countries. Hope that clarifies things!
For a well known example. Leif Erikson (the Viking that actually discovered the Americas) was the son of Erik The Red (whose name was Erik Thorvaldson)
I believe that the "not subtle" part was her original given name Aldrif, which if you check the translation means "adrift".
Also, Icelanders still keep that custom, and some even have a secondary surname based on their paternal grandfather (-sonar). In the case of single mothers (or divorced mothers that cut off all ties with the fahter), the name used in the surname is the mother's, and in the case of people whose father has a second name, they use the one their fathers is mostly known as.
As a side note, they've recently added -bur as an alternative for people who register themselves as "gender neutral".
I mean, it’s not like the vikings invented patronymic naming; they have found Ancient Greek pottery shards with patronymic naming on them from the 5th century BC, where the earliest recorded northmen raids wasn’t until year 700-something AD. It is also used prevalent in Arabic naming traditions and many other naming traditions. :-)
I am just a nerdy person with an interest in linguistics, so I just had to jump in and say that.
He was talking about the Adrift part, adrift like she was lost to one universe and ended up in another...
@@marcusanark2541 there was an editor’s note that directly proves u wrong lol
That awkward moment when MatPat theorizes a plot that has absolutely nothing to do with the actual film, but would’ve been leagues better than the actual movie we got😬😂
The best part was he mentioned the actual plot when he talked about gorr
Real. If I was a movie director for marvel or DC I'd just drop a trailer, see what Matpat comes up with, and do that cause his idea would probably be cooler than what I had in mind
@@cybrogpotato7425 same 😂
Fun fact:
The “where do we go now?” break in the actual song Sweet Child of Mine exists because when they were writing the song they weren’t really sure what to do after the guitar solo ended.
Neat! Thank you 😊
@@d00mzDai , Yep, they were totally " lost" on what to do there.
That’s hilarious
That's clever lol
So basically it was a filler episode in a song
The "blonde hair, blue eyes, girl from Thor's childhood" could potentially refer to Amora the Enchantress too. Which would be less crazy than the Phoenix and Angela theories
Phoenix would be weird since she is heavily X-Men and they haven't shown any signs of bringing them in yet. Angela was his sister in the comics which was done with Hela in the last movie so unless there is some stuff happening she's out too.
Edit: OK, I really gotta watch the video more before replying to comments I see.
It's certainly *possible*, but Sylvie already was a partial adaptation of the Enchantress.
@@michaeldaniels642 wait if marvel is using Greek mythology which DC uses does that mean DC will use Norse mythology?
@@Kinji_Hakari I think it is nice that the Greek gods show up.
@@loganshaw4527 then that means DCU and MCU will meet like come together like join forces
Something like that happened in the comics
I love the trailers like this that don’t tell us too much but still leave enough room to theorize and get hyped about the movie
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Right or the movie makers make a twist so the theory is wrong.
I actually think it references Thor's daughter, as in the Next Avengers. A new generation of heroes after all the contracts expired. Hawkeye explores a new generation rising as well.
EXACLTY! Setting up for a Young Avengers movie or series...
Hawkeye got cancelled. Don’t know how sure they are about a young avengers lol
@@Him_Downstairs36 Kate bishop and yelena the new hawkeye and widow.....
That's what I was thinking
@@Him_Downstairs36 wait really? That's sad i loved that series...
To be fair a lot of people immediately pointed out that the song had a deeper meaning to the movie. My favorite being that the song Is from Gorr's point of view
I assume you are referring to the song. I know nothing about it so could you elaborate? I'm curious.
@@DoubsGaming the song is Sweet Child of Mine by Guns N Roses, and Gorr started to hate the gods when the gods didn't save Gorrs child
@@aidanwiehl2397 Ok that makes sense, tell me more. Is Gorr the person who wrote the song?
@McDoubletap Gorr is the villain of the movie
@@DoubsGaming gorr is the villain of the movie
As much as I would love to see Angela make a film appearance, Hela kind of already took her role last film. So if she does appear, it’ll likely be with an altered backstory.
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Sounds like a perfect opportunity to subvert expectations.
@@YellowyMations technically she was if you count the theatre lmao
Just make her not evil.
Fun fact: the whole "Where do we go now?" thing came up when they were first writing and practicing the song and couldn't figure out what to put in the bridge. They started improvising and throwing spaghetti at the wall and the in joke stuck and made it into the final product.
I'm about to eat some spaghetti guess I'm making a song
@@1thedanfan949 sounds like a plan. By the way, thanks for commenting on this with something that wasn't spam. Lol
Was it a great spaghetti incident by chance ?
which found a call back in the album Spaghetti Incident
I always wait to watch these til after the movie, especially since he’s been spot on recently with marvel. But happy to see he’s dead wrong with this one!
Same dude
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He came sooooo close though 😅 he thought of up (mother) and sideways (sister), all he had left to cover was the correct answer of down (daughter)
James Kim yeah I definitely thought he was going to get there lol. Now looking back all the clues were there
@@jwcaded ikr... what's funny is that it's literally there... Sweet *child* o' mine skdjjdkskssjsjks xD
Another thing is that Heimdall’s son has the same pronunciation as Axl, the writer of the song.
"Caps gone, Tony's gone, Natasha's gone. I guess Hulks still around."
Hawkeye gets left out of everything.
Hawkeye: Oh come on! Why do you always have to leave me out???
@@PrincessToyNerd also Hawkeye: at least I got invited to Civil War!
Legend says:He's still to this day collecting his lost arrows so no one has any idea about him
Hela already took the "secret sister who has been trapped in another dimension" origin in the MCU. It would be really disappointing for them to do that two movies in a row.
Yea sad that it had to be hela Angela sounds a lot more badass
Came here to say the same thing
I agree, I think matpat is stretching it on that one
It was really disappointing that Marvel removed Lady Death, changed Thanos to a misguided ecoterrorist instead of the pinnacle of "That Guy Who Thinks Escalation Is The Solution To Every Problem" trying to make a girl love him by flexing on the universe, and retconned in Thor's secret sister instead. Blocking the introduction of Angela is just one more disappointment to add to the pile.
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What about Sif? I know from cast lists available online that the Sif character is definitely going to be in this movie. She was a blonde goddess in Norse myth, although in the comics, her hair color was charged by a magic curse. She's also an old girlfriend of Thor's.
With Sif around Torunn being the Sweet Child becomes a possibility.
You're giving too much credit to a film made by a hack who makes comedy schlock and doesn't care what's in the comics, let alone Eddas.
WELLLL......VALkyrie was SUPPOSED to be blonde and blue eyed, but they wrecked her already
what the mcu did to Sif is a crime.
That's totally a possibility.
Ahh, I love watching these videos after the movie releases. Maybe next time Mat
Matt may have been wrong about the child's identity, BUT was totally on point about the song significance, indeed "spoiling" the end of the movie.
Now that I've seen this, having known nothing about Angela before (I'm not a comic reader), when he mentions she appears after a multiversal tear or whatever.. I don't think she's completely ruled out as making an appearance.
Calling her "Odinsdottir" is just following old Norse naming conventions. That custom only died out relatively recent, a few hundred years ago, as part of a modernization and streamlining program that led to the growth of the Swedish empire. With a growing modern military, things like everyone having the same last name started to become a bit of a problem
Many common last names in all of Scandinavia still carries this tradition. If any last name ends with -son or -sen, it’s stems from “son of” patronymic meaning. Also, it didn’t die out as a practice until maybe around 150 years ago; my grandfather’s generation was around the last ones to have patronymic naming in Denmark.
Also, while I am not Icelandic, I do believe they still do use the patronymic tradition (and being the absolute badass feminists that they are, they also have matronymic naming as well!), because the Icelandic language is very close to old Norse and as such, the Icelandic people are good at keeping the oral traditions of Norse culture alive. To my knowledge, they name their daughters and sons differently and therefore still use -son for sons, -dóttir for daughters. I remember my professor at university (who is Icelandic) telling me that they do not change last names when they marry, as your spouse isn’t suddenly the son/daughter of your mother/father. As such, even siblings could have different “last names”. I am not sure if this is still the case in 2022, but it definitely was for my professor, who is around 40-ish years old now.
@@consberg1990 I can see if the Icelanders still do it, as they never really had a need to switch to the traditional Christian system like the Scandinavian Norse. I do believe it did continue in Scandinavia, but not as last names, rather being the same as the Russian patronymic system, where it's effectively the middle name. It's actually still tradition in Russia to call someone who is either older than you, or, in the military, a superior officer, by their first name and patronym. For example, if you watch Attraction, you'll see Artyom refer to Yulia's father, both Artyom's senior and a colonel, later general in the second movie, as "Valentin Yurievich"
Iceland still follows it. When they still had phone books, they were sorted by first name, because the -sson and -sdottir names aren't nearly as useful as a family name.
Honestly, seeing how much mythology is being put into MCU, I hope they'll add someone from the Slavic mythology like Perun or Chernobog
That would be awesome
They were in the comics not too long ago as part of the Winter Guard(Russian Avengers)
Meanwhile I’m wondering why there hasn’t been any mention of gungnir after or before odin’s death
Maybe if a competent director-writer was at helm, not a comedy hack who has no grasp on the grandiose and mythological.
sadly I wouldn't bet on it. Both barely appear in Marvel comics, neither of them even reaching ten appearances, the perun that showed up wasn't even a god, just a super soldier who got killed in one hit. It's not impossible but I highly doubt it
Matpat always coming through with these trailer theories lol, can't wait
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Sweet Child of Mine could also be in reference to the loss of Gorr's family and unborn child. Just another theory that kinda fits, in a grim way. "Where do we go now?" could be in reference to Gorr's decent into madness after so much tragedy.
I dont know if you seen it but spoilers …………… it was gorrs kid but she becomes thors kid
You are a legend dude
You literally predicted the movie
The music direction in MCU always felt vital to set each stage of it. Excited to see what musicians provide to them next.
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I like the idea, but I doubt they would do another “long lost sister” plot immediately after Ragnorok
From the name of the movie they aren’t doing the sister thing
@@triggerhappy4199 y not
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On the other hand, it sounds like a really good setup for a joke
What about in the gorr the god butcher comics (godbomb), that we literally saw thor's 3 daughters?
What if the girl is Torunn Thorsdóttir, an ending with a another daughter to fill her father’s legacy would be fitting with Morgan and Cassie.
Cassie cage?
@@akale2620 cassie lang
@@akale2620 😂 I fuckn love Cassie Cage lol. She just comes out of nowhere and steals my favourite characters (Liu Kang) whole schtick of being the chosen one. Yet I still end up loving her character. Best of the new mk characters imo.
Fits in with the M-SHE-U
Mabye Jane was pregnant and kept her hidden...for reasons. Or maybe by the end of the movie he has a child with some new love interest, who knows?...
I thought the song was in reference to Thor's daughter/s because he meets his descendants in the storyline they're adapting in this movie (three women), thanks to time travel shenanigans. The movie could introduce a child he had and didn't know about (maybe with Lady Syf) or outright have his daughter from the future show up.
Almost right
This was almost correct
So close he did get a daughter (or niece based on the movie) but it was gors daughter
What an interesting prediction. Can't eait to see Marvel crush it into dust when the characters don't appear at all.
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I would love for Angela to show up, but it’d probably be awkward to have the “lost sister omg” plot again :(
I want Jormungandr and Magni and Modi
Yeah that’s exactly what I thought. I hope they keep it simple
I want the Phoenix to show up as a long lost mom. But we did have issues with mom issues back in thor2 and endgame.
Honestly having the "lost sister omg" plot again would be funny if they acknowledge it. "How many sisters do you have???"
Yeah, but it would be a very Taika Waititi joke.
"Odinsdottir, real subtle..."
I mean, that's how Norse names worked, and still do in Iceland at least. The Prime Minister of Iceland for example is Katrín Jakobsdóttir.
I think he means in combination with her first name “aldrif”, at the bottom of the screen he put the translation of her full name as “adrift odin’s daughter”, so not just her last name (14:17)
Soooo right about the song. Sooo wrong about the theory.... 😂
16:40 wow, MatPat just COMPLETELY forgot about how Hawkeye is still alive.
I was looking for this comment
Nope disney Cancelled it
“Hawkeye? He’s not an Avenger” - CinemaSins
everyone pretty much forgot Hawkeye.... is alive.
And thats why he became my favorite avenger
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What I’m most interested in is the prospect of The Necrosword. Gorr uses it in the comics gaining it from the defeated Knull, witch means Knull could be the next villain. I love this future
No. No. No. No Sony property
They made a Knull theory a while back. I think it might have been one of The Eternals theories
knull holds the title of killing celestials and external god of the abyss and lord of the symbiotes
Mat pat’s problem was assuming that the MCU is capable of writing a good story nowdays
Sad that this is the case now lol
his theories sounded more interesting than the movie itself tbh
Whenever a new Marvel trailer drops, you know MatPat will make theories on it. 😃
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@@dontreadprofilephoto1728 okay 👍
What’s gonna be hilarious is if Jane Foster becomes pregnant with Thors child and Mat pac is both on the right track and completely wrong yet again
The child could have the blue eyes and blonde hair.
@@joelsasmad yes she does fair hand with a sword too not to mention she threw Ultron off of earth at the climax of the movie
I'm a minute thirty seven second in and my guess it's about Gorr's child, who wasn't saved by the gods. Gorr's sweet child died and the God did nothing to stop it.
Negative
@@kaine8911 says the person with zero idea of plot.
@@jamesbee3087 What??? I watched the video, I know its "plot" I'm saying you were wrong about the video being about Gorr's child.
theory was so close you even brought up who the sweet child is and were correct about how the song matters
I love seeing the Theorist team's theories about new Marvel movies! This movie looks amazing!!
Something I think needs to be said is that thanks to the Darkhold being introduced in Wandavision after it was introduced in Agents of Shield, we could see Ghost Rider make an appearance in the MCU
Wait 2ait wait ghist rider is part of the dark hold?
@@aidenflame1576 sorta. I don’t want to spoil
@@grandmasterscott ? you can't spoil it it hasn't happened. ghost rider is apart of the dark hold?
@@Kinobambino he took the darkhold at the end of his season of Agents of Shield after they saw what dangerous power it has (it tricks a person into gaining god-like power while corrupting them). He made a sling ring portal with his chain and wasn’t seen or mentioned since
Boy oh boy do you need to watch Multiverse of Madness
Hi Matpat I would really enjoy it if you made “A series of unfortunate events” theory’s. Thank you and I hope you have a great day.
I also think many other people would like it.
Dude, yes!!
And also getting back to more sciency root too, like the strength of human teeth, physics of some of the crazier contraptions, etc. Good suggestion.
That was my favoite show until it ended. i like your idea about a theory but I don't think there will be any new seasons :(
@@dryiced2459 I don’t think that there will be new seasons but I would like it because there are many things that can be theorized about.
One of my camp counselors was actually a special effects editor for this movie, which makes me really excited to see it in theaters.
Ah, my favourite theorist whose theories may not come true but are no less entertaining than the movie itself
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Brilliant idea analyzing the song in the trailer, looking back at Ragnarok it's shocking how well its trailer songs foreshadows the film.
The whole bringing Jane as a kind of Goddess now, the sweet child thing and the fact that we already have Wanda's twins, a recast for Cassie and Kate bishop might be pointing us to Torunn as the sweet child. I know she's Sif's daughter but they could theoretically change things to make her Jane's and she would be a really cool addition to the Young Avengers lineup they seem to be forming.
I wish Cassie wasn’t recasted. Kinda sucks.
Coming back to this after just watching the movie. Boy was this theory wayyy off...
I still love the passion and effort you put into the videos Matt.
9:37
Matt : "Right now, The Comic is left on a Cliffhanger, waiting for a Resolution."
The TF2 Fandom still waiting for Their 7th Comic : _"Hey, I've seen this one before"_
I really enjoy watching these theories without worrying about getting spoiled!
Out of the topics conveyed in this video I am more inclined to believe the first one with the X-Men connection because they've already done the whole surprise sister plot with Ragnarok
His theory was far better than the actual movie, someone make this theory happen
MatPat: "Avengers 10,000 BC is a thing."
On-screen photo: "Avengers 1,000,000 BC."
Matt, your order of magnitude is off juuusssstttt a bit.
The child is Mjölnir. He even had it in a lil cradle when he lived with Daryl during Civil War.
I feel like since Ragnarok already did the whole "lost sister" trope that if it ends up being Angela it will feel like lazy writing
POV: your matpat and you guess a song in a trailer spoils the movie, your right but get what it spoils completely wrong
Fantastic Video matpat, can't wait to see the rest of it.
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@@SableUnderscore I will
I am absolutely shocked Matthew never brought up the possibility that Zeus could be Thor's father all along, and Odin raised *two* adopted sons.
Just no
Hercules wouldn't like that option
@@maxmcgar5732 yeahh where would be Hercules
Explains how weak he is compared to Odin.
@@superrooster18 if the guy who nearly killed Thanos with the full power of the Infinity Gauntlet is "weak" to you, you've gotta re-establish what you think the power levels are
I think the child could be gorr with the song choice being from his mother's pov and the the tone shift is a shift to gorrs prospective after his mother’s death
That why song becomes darker after some times, right
@@goswamisarthak9877 that's my guess
@@goswamisarthak9877 Papi
I doubt Angela will make an appearance, but it was hella awesome to hear her mentioned in this video. I've been an Angela fan for about 11 years, but haven't heard her mentioned since I first laid eyes on her comics. This was definitely a treat.
I really like watching these predictive theories and I'm looking forward to watching it since I just started the video, but I have to say I find it kind of weird that you haven't done any moon knight theories yet.
Maybe one will come out soon to try and predict the last episode or two. Just something I noticed because you usually are all over the Disney plus shows.
Yeah i dont think the Phoenix will show up in the mcu just yet. The Phoenix then requires including the M’kran crystal and the host. So they would have to include a mutant. It could only work because of the Gods theme in the MCU but it would take a lot of build up. I think we will see Angela but briefly and probably at the end like they introduced Eros on the eternals. However, I would like to see Angela as the Queen of Asgard with Valkyrie. I would believe the Angela theory before the Phoenix theory.
m'kraan crystal isn't mentioned all that much in the comics, so I don't think they would have to involve that. Just say PF is the nexus of realities
Oh god if they actually adapted the phoenix bull that Aaron's been sticking in his awful Avengers run I think I'd cry, thankfully that's definitely not the case considering how recent it is
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God bless Cates for the recent God of Hammers arc pushing in favor of Gaia instead of the Phoenix Force
I don’t know why y’all hate it so much. Trust me you guys did not care less who was Thor’s mother.
@@marcelcjr9313 It's really dumb and makes absolutely no sense, as expected, after all it's Jason Aaron we're talking about
@@Gfurys I don’t know why you guys make it a big deal. Trust me, Thors mother doesn’t matter. This is not Bruce Wayne
It's always scary when he gets it mostly. Oorrect accept Gorrs daughter is the sweet child
I dont see either of these being viable, one would think we would have heard of casting news or something if it was Angela - you forgot to even address Valkyrie who is going to play a very large role in the film. The phoenix force here would be too confusing for casual movie going audiences without some prior setup. They both seem like a real stretch.
It would be cool though 😂
@@MrHouloul dude wth are you talking about rn
@@hammerofluke2013 lol. Just a quick reminders, because these times, people are to much untertained and forget their purpose in this life. Sorry if it was random.
@Galactus what lie
Who doesn't know about the Phoenix Force by now? We've had two crappy movies about it lol.I think fans of comic book movies are alot more informed than they once were. Would be a great way to introduce the X-men and set up Avengers vs X-Men as well. So my vote is that its the Phoenix Force. But it will probably be Angela unfortunately.
Matpat sounds like the English teacher who exaggerates every line from a poem
The "where do we go now" part is apparently because they actually didn't know where to go with the song at the time and just rolled with it lol
Yup
You were definitely on the right track here. All about parental love.
As someone who loves to watch NewRockstars and all their breakdowns and theories on marvel content, was very shocking and extremely nice to see eric in the video :D
4:00 catchy old song brrr
😂
I trust matpat way too much to watch this now.
I will watch this only after the film is released and I have watched it.
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But...Is he ever right about Marvel?
4:01 I did not know Matpat could roll his r's this well that's neat.
7:57 Now that's an Ice Age reboot I'd like to see.
16:37 I hate how underrated Hawkeye is. He is still alive and he is one of the original 6
He never disappoints
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You were right on the “Sweet Child O Mine” theory 😉
He just needed to look a little more literal
8:18 Mat says 10,000BC while the picture says 1,000,000 BC. We cannot trust Mat anymore…
Film theory idea (phineas and ferb) How fast does the squirrel in Norm need to run in order to power him?
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I’m exited to see this movie as the trailer looks so good!
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The movie is woke, so it's not worth it.
Just came back from the cinema, Matpat predicted that the song will be linked to the plot
6:04 i just got the exact same ad that was playing in the video. The chance of that happening
13:02 "MIRCALE" oof
Other than that, interesting theories for thought, let's see if any of these end up calling it
Hey Matpat love the content❤ and good theories
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I like how Matt Patt probably spent hours on creating these 2 theories just for the song not to have any relevance with the movie.
He did get the villain
@@jpeg.. The villian was already confirmed to be gorr in like March.
@@northk1448 oh
@Malthizar Love has brown eyes and isn’t blond
Sorry, but I disagree here. The two theories were indeed incorrect, but the song IS relevant. It was all about Gorr's daughter, eventually becoming Thor's. So MattPat was right about the song "spoiling" the movie.
One of my favorite theories ever! Love Guns N’ Roses, so dissecting the song choice made me so happy and delighted to hear it wasn’t just for the catchiness
Mat never misses with these theories
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14:45 so you’re telling me Jesus is a marvel character. Lmao 🤣
Two different Jesus's ones catholic (and only seen at a bar) the other might not be
okay i’m not the only one that’s been stalking film theory for a moonknight theory right? right?
Wow, I’ve been playing Contest of Champions for YEARS now, and I had no idea that Angela was a recent addition to the comics from another publisher, sweet! Also, I love the fact that you referenced Contest of Champions, even though the game isn’t nearly as popular as it was anymore
The "Sweet Child" can be Thor's daughter. A sweet kid, reminds him of his own childhood, makes him emotional and makes him think about the future (where do we go?)
come to islam, and stop being utilitarian liberals or whatever the moral system or ideology you have. Islam is the only metaphysical and moral system that doesn't generate contradictions. Learn more through sheikh like othman ibn faroq or mohammed hijab or free books (Divine reality and the mirage of atheism, the Burhan, etc) ... and hopefully you guys will understand that this life is made temporary and ment to follow our desires, but to worship the necessary existence, self-sufficient, etc, who created us (through evolution or whatever the theory). There is only one god (Allah). He is not a contingent existence. He is unique and has no partners. He descended revelations to prophets such as Moses, Abraham, Jesus, and finally Mohammed peace be upon them all. Islam structures your life so your din, intellect, family and property is protected. It makes sense and its a way of life that will make you happier as a consequence. Paradise is for ever, this life is temporary, don't be blind. Its just a reminder for those who reflect.
@@MrHouloul god isn't real. every action is the result of all actions before it therefore concluding that free will is also a myth. you have been manipulated into following this religion because that's how you are kept in line. stop pushing your religion on other people you insufferable sheep.
@@MrHouloul no
@@dishwasher68 Stay a primate.
Very well done, y'all. This made me reconsider some of my past theories about phase 1 & 2.
Maaaaaan can you imagine how much better love and thunder would have been if this was the plot??
You guys should do a theory on the owl house! Like maybe what he's planning? The paintings in the "hollow mind" episode seem to tell an interesting backstory maybe you guys could look at it?
I'm still thinking the sweet child is Adam, and that's why we still see the guardians in this one.
bro that'd be so cool
Since this "Multiverse" thing is happening across comic producers Do you think the Amalgam comics will become movies or a tv show? *(The comics that combine DC comics and Marvel comics)*
Disney's too proud to ever do that I bet and dc but would be cool
I'm convinced at this point Marvel is making fake trailers and giving fake hints just to distract MatPat...
Well, he was dead on about the song being important. He just guessed everything about it wrong.
Matpat: *mentions all the Avengers...besides Hawkeye*
Me: Dude, ya can't forget Clint! He's literally the only reason the Avengers win!
He is retired
He is retired and turns out richer than Tony soo
I thought it was the van rat
@@WarGodV_ you guys are missing my point, he never mentioned Barton, just the rest of the Avengers.
@@JayC_x see, the Rat is Endgame, and even then, Clint was on the field~ how about when they lost? Clint wasn't there. Therefor, Clint is their lucky charm of victory.
Well Jane Foster is definitely a part of it cause she's at the top of the cast
Little Know Fact: In "Sweet Child" when they get to "where do we go now" that was actually the band asking where they take the song from there in the writing of it, but they had nothing so they just put that in. Look it up.
This genuinely feels like one of your most cohesive videos.
Congratulations on the peeps who's Here First and Last 👀✌️✨✨✨
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14:37 wait ghost rider team up with who? 😂
That sounds epic
Good trailer and always a good theory
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You were almost right!
He wasn't even close to being right.