Three Quick Tips for Quick Scenery Building in RCT2
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ย. 2024
- Build scenery faster by using shift, control, and saved rides!
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After all these years, this is still a touchy subject to me.
So much real time and fake money was wasted raising and lowering the ground until I learned that this was a thing.
Well it wasn't a thing in the first one
@@TS_Mind_Swept lol that was my problem. I only really played the first one because I couldn't get into the second one, for some reason. Then I found out about rct classic and how to place stuff. So glad it's a thing.
I think this game might have a slightly lacking tutorial
I remember as a kid building up terrain under a coaster station to elevate it and then lowering the ground back down after. I was shocked when I learned the shift trick for the first time.
Iirc, the shift and ctrl features were added in RCT2. I do remember these tricks not working on RCT or its expansions. (Of course, OpenRCT2 allows you to play RCT scenario's with RCT2 functionality)
@@StefanVeenstra RCT Classic backported stuff like that as well, right?
Marcel you should make a video on the questions you’d ask Chris Sawyer if given the opportunity!
He said in a stream he would just thanks him for creating this wonderful game.
1. What do you have against Heartline Twister Coasters?
He said in a stream, and if I'm correct, on a FAQ video.
He should have a question list and really contact it with some better questions, like his opinions, the difficulties creating the game etc.
@@efoley27 and 1a. Miniature Golf
@@efoley27 I assume really low stats.
I wish I could go back in time and tell 11 y/o me all of these haha. I'm 30 now btw...
Same lol. Just got back into this game at 28 because of Marcel
Same. Though, I used to play RCT1, I recently bought RCT2 because of Marcel. And I'm 38.
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Exactly the control binding would've been very useful 15 years ago for 10yr old me 🤣🤣🤣
Amen!
I love how at 3:00 the automatic subtitles say "En dat was het voor deze video", which is the correct Dutch translation of what he said ("And that was it for this video").
I've never really been a fan of making buildings in RCT simply because it was too tedious. I knew about holding down Shift, but never heard about the other two tricks. I'll have to give them a try sometime. Thanks!
That's exactly what I just told my husband; I knew about the shift key from the get-go, but not the other two. Now I can actually build scenery buildings because it won't be so tedious.
Making a cheeky Dutch flag hé? I see what you did there...
Do you also recognize the next flag?
@@MarcelVos Estonia I think
@@MarcelVos Estonia!
@@MarcelVos that's not a flag, that's just a picture of a black forest and a blue sky with a snowy field in the foreground!
Estonia haha
That control trick would've been real useful for my 20x20 roof...
Oh dear, I remember I was playing RCT when I was younger and I could not figure out how to do the stacked scenery. The way I got around it was to literally template every single scenery piece and save it with a ride. That way I could raise/lower the land and put the saved wide with scenery at the side, essentially placing scenery in mid air. And I built a lot of stuff that way... Gosh was it a game changer when I figured out there was a dead simple solution to that.
Still, I think my main confusion was left since I originally started with RCT1 and I don't think this advanced scenery construction was possible at all in RCT1.
I remember figuring out the first two tips when I was 7 or so, a few years after I started playing the game... complete game-changer
Definitely would be cool to see the shift then control concept implemented in OpenRCT2. Hopefully someone of influence sees this video. Would save so so much time
Isnt that already in the game?
@@Basb04I think you can lock the height first, change position, and then lock the position and change height. But you cannot do the opposite.
Almost 20 years playing this game and didn't know about the ctrl trick! Thank you!!
I have to say: I think this video's thumbnail is top-tier. I can't express how much I enjoy seeing such useful to-the-point ones like this one.
Also, great tips, of course.
Great tips!
Super helpful. I don’t think I ever figured these out as a kid so I always just stick to simple rides
I wish you could place fences easier to place the mouse at the first fence and then pulls a line and then be built along the line the fences.
I remember after years of playing as a kid and getting frustrated that the prebuilt scenery was stacked and trying everything one day after not playing for years I tried pressing shift and my life was changed. Did not know about the Ctrl key one though so that’s a very helpful tip.
I have nearly completed all the scenarios in openrct2 (but rct1 scenarios) and I've only just found this out, I've saved tracks & rides with scenery but never knew how to get tunnels or anything underground or higher without it being auto. A really big thank you for all your RCT videos I know I wouldn't be playing if it wasn't for them & you.
SO glad I found this! I've been wondering how to build rides underground for ages! And also putting roof tops on my walls! Thank you 😁- actually I correct that, YEARS! I started RCT 1 when it came in a cereal box at 14 then I forgot about it... I am now 31 🤭😅
Awesome video. This has earned you a sub because I played the OG RCT when it first released on PC 20+ years ago and until now I could never figure out how to place scenery like that. I used to raise the land, build the scenery part, then lower the land again.
man I was only aware of the shift one. Had no idea ctrl even did anything
Thanks for the Tip!
Glad you made a video regarding the shortcut key. Though I've knew these for years, but not when I first started playing, so I instead used terrain adjustments to raise scenery. In Prima's RCT2 player's guide, none of these were mentioned, and just said to raise the terran to the desired height and place whatever you want there (like in RCT1).
Over 150 hr in RCT Classic and i didn't know about holding shift. thank you you saved me alot of time and trouble.
Marcel I've noticed a lot of throughput on roller coasters can be improved by placing the entrance and exits in strategic locations. For example, an exit at the end of the station on the same side of the entrance with an entrance towards the middle results in a much slower load time than if you have the exit on one side and the entrance on the other. Also, having the entrance closest to the middle of the train can save several seconds versus having guests walk from one side entirely.
Would you be interested in delving into this further? I'm curious what the fastest time you could have trains leave the station for each ride type. Most trains can be loaded within about ten seconds but it varies and I haven't checked each ride but maybe you have an idea already of have long it takes to load x passengers?
I am aware of that trick and I try to at least somewhat optimize for that in my videos, especially the ride overviews (the go karts one is an exception). It would be interesting to delve deeper into it though, so I might do that at some point.
You can also put a chain lift piece at the top of an airtime hill to cheese another block section into the ride. I do that a lot
I'm pretty sure the exit location never matters.
@@sprawlz6466 oh I am a wizard with block chains. I tend to have a minimum of 6 trains on even small coasters, with my larger ones topping out at 9. And they are timed to no stall on any of them, hence my focus on loading efficiency. I just started to really zero in on it and placement of the exit and entrance is just the beginning.
For example, yesterday I discovered that leaving a Virginia Reel on "Wait for Full Load" with guests in line will fill up and take off in just over 5 seconds without a timer box checked as well. However, if you reduce the maximum wait time to 4 seconds, it will depart about one second faster while still seating all 4 passengers, speeding up that part of the ride by 20%.
When done correctly, the implications are even larger with block brakes and big coasters. I'll check later what the load time for a full line on the larger trains are but even the biggest ones should be able to load to capacity in around 10-14 seconds max.
@@Psychonautical89 oh wow I didn't know that. I always make Virginia reels too, I'll definitely try that next time. Thanks for the tip.
I often try to put my entrance as close to the middle car of the first train as I can (usually the third station piece from the front but it can vary) because I have noticed that guests tend to load up the front and back of the trains first. This way, the last people getting on just sit down in the middle car right in front of them. If I can maybe get the max load time right like you said, I'd be golden.
Oh and also, I notice that when you put a stair piece before the entrance, the guests walk onto the ride as fast as they go up stairs which is slower than normal. So I always make sure I have a normal flat path leading into the station.
I still do typically have one problem though; after waiting in line for a while, the guests do an animation where they check their watch. They do this as they walk into the ride as well and it significantly slows down the loading process because they stop walking for a second every time they do it. I've tried putting mascots and queue TVs by the entrance but it doesn't seem to work fully. Do you have any problems with that? And if so, do you have any suggestions other than shortening my queue lines?
I would've never thought to use rides to mass-produce scenery. Then again I've never been into makinmg large buildings, but damn this will save time...
I don't even play RCT yet still watch these videos like: 'oh that's a useful trick!'
I'm not sure if I'll ever play Rollercoaster Tycoon again, and yet I feel as if I've learnt something quite useful!
Marcel Vos is the go to channel for RCT information.
I played RCT and RCT2 back in middle school and high school when those games first came out and this is the first I'm hearing about it lol.
When I was young I was terraforming tools for uppering stations xD
The ctrl trick is exactly what I was looking for. I knew there had to be a an easier way! Thanks
Wait what?
Well, shift was certainly a thing, but ctrl? That's news to me!
I actually didn't know any of this and it's a total game changer!! I love watching your videos week after week and still learning stuff about a game I've been playing for 25 years. Just awesome!
the first feature you talk about is single handedly what made RCT2 so great for me.
I spent 95% of my play time just building. not playing the game as intended
Thanks so much!!! I used to do this all the time, but lately when I try to raise something I've been doing it totally wrong & getting really frustrated. Now I can say 'DUH'! lol
Never knew the control key trick! Will make it much easier to place roofs for sure.
I knew you could use control to match the altitude of an existing _object,_ but I had no idea that could be done with the _ground itself._ Neato!
I never thought about using flat rides to create 'templates' for structures. I'll have to give that a shot!.
scenery templates would be an awesome feature for openrct2 though..
There is an openrct2 plug-in that does exactly that.
Did not know about the control trick! Thank you very helpful.
I must admit, while I really like RCT2, after playing Parkitect I'm finding RCT2's controls to be frustratingly clunky by comparison. The big difference is that Parkitect has the "Ctrl press" enabled by default. If you raise a scenery item to a certain height and then move it horizontally, it stays on the same height. That makes it much, *much* faster to build large buildings and roofs. I also like that Parkitect lets you create scenery blueprints without attaching them to rides, streamlining the copy-paste-method significantly.
Thank you. I roofed with just shift. Pure pain with isometric perspective.
Did I dream this, or was it a thing: I for some reason remember auto-burial/auto-digging when placing coasters so long as the terrain was in vertical cliff sections. It made placing coasters easier.
I never knew about the CTRL trick. Thank you!
i only learned about the prop lifting trick back around the time rct3 was a old game and i was so upset that at the time i didnt have rct2 anymore until like years later x3
I learned the shift trick in the RCT2 manual, the ctrl trick much later, and we need this available for paths too.
These tricks are incredible! Thank you so much!
They don't work on RCT1 vanilla though : (
2:54 You can do this trick in RCT Classic using flat rides as well, one of my favorite tricks I've learned so far.
Thank you So much for these tips!!! It really helped me!!! :D:D:D The shift option really helped me!!!!
I'm today years old when I learned this. Thank you so much
Tips are always appreciated!
THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING
I was about to leave my computer, but then I see a Marcel Vos video...
I would have also shouted out the Scenery Manager plugin, which has tons of useful scenery features, most importantly copy-paste for a rectangular selection. There’s also an improved random tree generator and a tool that lets you quickly place benches and trash cans equally-spaced.
This was very useful, thank you Marcel Vos
Hey Marcel Love your channel. I took some practice but I finally got the hang of it! This is really great to know and I can't wait to start making huge buildings in no time now!
Thanks once again, these vid are full of useful and entertaining stuff!
All those years and I never knew any of these. I wish I could go back and tell my 2005 self about it...
if you recorded yourself reading operating manuals, it would be the perfect pairing of your chill voice with droll, technical write-ups for soothing background noise.
Thank you, Marcel.
The third tip is CLUTCH!!
I did NOT know about the control hotkey for scenery building! That's useful! :D
So I rolled my eyes when I saw this in my sub box. Just a, cmon, Marcel! I sub for your hyper examinations of little things, not some creativity stuff...
Gotta admit, didn't know any of these and completely blew my mind. This is all stuff that is so amazing and useful and I am now going to spend the weekend playing RCT using these things. I don't like many videos because I like using the like playlist as the modern equivalent of favourites, since YT got rid of that. This is I believe the first video of yours I have liked despite being subbed for ages. Not your usual video, but I'm super ok with that
I had no idea about any of these tips! Thank you so much for sharing!
All these tips work in RCT3 as well 😄
0:19 - Yep, that is me. Didn't know that all these years.
I indeed did not know the shift tip. Insane.
Your accent is great by the way. Spoken like a true native!
Thank you. I actually did find this useful.
Hi Marcel,
What are your thoughts about making a video on weather?
Actually interesting, as weather affects a decent bit like guests not wanting to ride outside rides in rain. Also, include climate. I.e. in warm dry climates people will ride more water rides.
Would have saved thousands of hours if I knew the second tip as a kid. Great video. :)
Super helpful, thanks!
I just got the idea of making a giant mountain map in OpenRCT2 and trying to build an entire underground park, maybe with some coasters that pop out the side of the mountain, do like a corkscrew or something and then go back into the mountain. That'd be sweet.
I didn't know about the ctrl thing... Thank you
I had been playing RCT2 for an embarrassingly long time before I learned the Ctrl hot-key trick.
Knew about the Shift one but never knew about the Ctrl one
Thank you so much!
It seems like Shift outprioritizes Ctrl in terms of axis locking. I would think you'd be able to hold Shift to the desired height, then hold Ctrl, then let go of Shift, and then it would work, right?
Regardless, thanks for the helpful tips!
That doesn't work, as soon as you let go of shift or control you lose the effect, even if you're already holding the other one. At least that's how it works in OpenRCT2, I haven't tested the vanilla games.
@@MarcelVos That's a shame. The OpenRCT2 developers should definitely change that, since I don't imagine it being very hard or causing any conflicts of functionality.
Best video yet.
Thanks Marcel.
I think it took me about 16 years until I realized ctrl was also a modifier. My head exploded after I found this out. All those painful building sessions...lol
I have a strange obsession with using this feature to build realistic subway systems
I feel like I've been hit in the face with that CTRL thing. I built a 50X50x50 glass cube a few years back, and I did the whole top one square at a time overnight. I could have been done in minutes. Holy hell.
Love your videos
Me: excited to try to use these in my game
My game: I live in your phone, dingus 😂
Ride- with- scenery should still be useful, though I also haven't worked back up to building unique coasters very often yet
Thx for the reminder... :-)
I saw the volume of red and blue balloons in the intro and I thought you were playing Bloons Tower Defense for a moment.
Dang, I wish the Shift and Control edits were part of original RCT. They would make Rainbow Valley a breeze.
The CTRL trick is the one I keep forgetting or haven't gotten used to using. Probably because of a one-sided bug? of using both CTRL + Shift that made me not use CTRL.
I wish there was something to lock side of the wall you want to build on, like in case of walls since it can be a issue to place such between the lines of paths
Where has this been all my life?!
On your keyboard ;)
@@immoloism savage.
OMG how did i not know of this
I didn't know about the shift key for my first decade of playing the game
you should build a haunted coaster ride with the scenery. i have no clue how they built the pre built one!
I have been playing this game since the early 2000's and didn't know about the ctrl for vertical position lock and have always built every single roof by trial-and-erroring the inside (obscured by walls of course) of a building I am making until all the roofs are lined up...
1:42 Twin roller coasters names "Agoraphobia" and "Claustrophobia" and the slide named "Shortstuff's Slide." Are those names original to that park in RCT1 or did I just miss that all these years??!
I was today years old when i discovered this 😮
thank u for the tips :33
Thanks
I legit did not ever know about the shift thing after playing this game for 20+ years.
Thanks.