Relationship Therapist Ranks THE OFFICE Romances

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    How do you grow in a relationship without changing who you are? Who is your favorite couple from The Office?
    Licensed therapist Jonathan Decker and filmmaker Alan Seawright are hopping over to the world of TV to rank romances from The Office. There are so many relationships to rank, but they picked seven that represent the spectrum between least and most health relationships in the show. The couples are Dwight and Angela, Jim and Pam, Kelly and Darryl, Michael and Holly, Michael and Jan, Pam and Roy, and Ryan and Kelly. They talk about beautiful and horrific relationship moments and the unparalleled humor that makes The Office so great.
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  • @CinemaTherapyShow
    @CinemaTherapyShow  19 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

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    • @astrobia94
      @astrobia94 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

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  • @mimi99829
    @mimi99829 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2142

    I love how Michael is both in the lowest and highest ranked couples 😂

    • @skytiger859
      @skytiger859 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +145

      And with candles being a prominent point of both!

    • @helenl3193
      @helenl3193 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +46

      ​@@skytiger859oh dang, I'd never noticed the candles! 😮

    • @Persewna4
      @Persewna4 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +37

      That's how you know he had real growth! Tellingly, Kelly being in the middle also makes sense because she didn't have much growth at all. On the surface she said she wanted a mature adult relationship, like with Darryl or the pediatrician she was dating at the end, but it wasn't real and she immediately went back to Ryan first chance she got, showing she really hasn't learned.

    • @johnrivers3813
      @johnrivers3813 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Date Mike strikes again

    • @slospop1125
      @slospop1125 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Character growth

  • @arinmara1535
    @arinmara1535 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +742

    I love the scene where Packer comes back to town, and Michael stops making misogynistic jokes because of Holly. I think she brings out the best in him.

    • @Persewna4
      @Persewna4 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +110

      Even better, he finally sees Packer for who he really is, and finally stops looking up to and trying to emulate him. I think for the longest time Michael thought he admired Packer, but it was only because Packer enjoyed having Michael reaffirm his gross behavior. Packer gave Michael the most acceptance and belonging he had gotten from anyone for a long time, the belonging that Michael so ardently needs. But being with Holly, Michael finally knows what true acceptance feels like, and it opens his eyes to his friendship with Packer. Packer only accepts him as long as Michael goes along with him, he doesn't actually see Michael as an equal.

    • @KC3YCU
      @KC3YCU วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      Packer is the most utterly contemptible person in the series. He shows zero growth or any indication of empathy, and he clearly gets off on making people cringe. The reason he was successful as a salesman is there are unfortunately a lot of other people just like him in the upper echelons of corporate America.

    • @mimisreads3038
      @mimisreads3038 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      and I think he even says that he realized that he is not a good guy and that he's not even that funny

  • @jocortez3816
    @jocortez3816 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +630

    Dwight's line to Angela when he yells "I will raise a hundred children with a hundred of your lovers if it means I can be with you" still to this day brings my joy.

    • @mimisreads3038
      @mimisreads3038 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      I cried so much the first time I watched this show and it got to that line !

  • @Amber-sc9jp
    @Amber-sc9jp 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +967

    I regularly say to my husband, when we are on different wavelengths and he wants alone time, "sorry I annoyed you with my friendship". One of my favorite lines from the show.

    • @helenl3193
      @helenl3193 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +51

      It's great when we develop ways/shared jokes to defuse the tension in those types of moments. Acknowledging each others feelings in a gentle, non-accusatory way

    • @Zuldaar
      @Zuldaar 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +34

      When my gf is unpleased with something she sings the first verse of "when she loved me" from toy story 2

    • @hollyk7052
      @hollyk7052 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I say shadadada all the time lmao

  • @dylanbass8451
    @dylanbass8451 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +810

    11:23 I’ve honestly always loved how unhesitatingly he answers that. There’s no pause, Darryl has his priorities right!

  • @pathora4484
    @pathora4484 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +800

    I can definitely agree with Michael and Holly being the healthiest relationship. My favorite is obviously Jim and Pam but Michael and Holly are literally made for each other.

    • @Forscythe80
      @Forscythe80 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      They're not literally made for each other. Metaphorically, yes. Literally, no.

    • @user-jc6vh8ck1f
      @user-jc6vh8ck1f 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      ​@@Forscythe80THANK you for pointing that out lol. It gets on my nerves how often the expression is being misused 😅

    • @CharBearBlbpmassagestherapy
      @CharBearBlbpmassagestherapy 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I agree Micheal and Holly are the healthiest in the show but they refuse to talk about hard things like Pam.

    • @Bubaiel
      @Bubaiel วันที่ผ่านมา +44

      @@Forscythe80 But they're fictional characters...so they're LITERALLY made for each other... op used it right 😑

    • @snowbird1381
      @snowbird1381 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It was also so bittersweet cause then he drops that he’s leaving. The cast of the office had gotten very close with each other, so the emotions were very on point.

  • @DocFusion98
    @DocFusion98 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +965

    Immediately calling that the worst is going to be Ryan and Kelly
    Edit: Welp. I guess we're not right all the time.

    • @m.y.x.z5976
      @m.y.x.z5976 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +65

      Going to guess that it’s Jan and Michael? 👀

    • @kay-jay1581
      @kay-jay1581 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

      I was thinking Pam and her ex fiance 😂

    • @annarose2714
      @annarose2714 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

      I think we all assume that because of how ongoing the attention- seeking is from BOTH of them. 😂

    • @maem7462
      @maem7462 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      @@m.y.x.z5976 That was my other guess right when I heard it. Both those were so toxic. I also wouldn’t be surprised if Angela and Dwight weren’t high up. They are cute and dk love each other but they also did too many mind games with each other

    • @tobiw.1898
      @tobiw.1898 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

      my take is that Ryan and Kelly are cartoonishly toxic to the point that you normally don't see in real life, and usually not a damaging concept because neither of them really commits to the bit. Michael and Jan are so so bad because they're so real. I had a marriage like their relationship and it's horrifying. it feels weird putting so much heat on roy because he was reacting to being cheated on, but outside of tv that rage is absolutely just abusive and terrifying and I could make the case roy is the worst partner in the entire show for his violent outbursts.

  • @JaimeNyx15
    @JaimeNyx15 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +329

    Jim and Dwight's relationship dynamic would actually be a fascinating video all on its own. Most people root for Jim by default, but the show steps back a couple of times to examine his treatment of Dwight critically and it really makes you reevaluate who the bad guy is there. But they are also there for each other in some crucial moments, so it's not completely toxic one way or the other. Dunno if it fits into the standard formats you've established, but it'd definitely be worth doing.

    • @creategenius719
      @creategenius719 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +35

      I'll always love the scene in the "complaint box" episode where Michael is reading Dwight's list of complaints of about Jim regarding all the pranks. As it cuts to Jim's confessional between each prank and he slowly realizes how pathetic he's been by wasting all his time pranking Dwight, when he could have been bettering himself.

    • @rustygray5058
      @rustygray5058 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

      One of my favorite moments in the show is Jim and Dwight going on a sales call together. They fight the whole way there, then they make the sale in a spectacular way, as if they were coordinated by a single brain, then they fight the whole way back. Ultimately, they feel like brothers who love each other, but the older one feels like its his duty to haze the younger, just to keep him from getting too big for his britches.

    • @Purple_Alien2511
      @Purple_Alien2511 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Yesss! This! Adding to it some commentary about the concept of "Frenemies"

    • @IdiotF0ol
      @IdiotF0ol วันที่ผ่านมา

      I never liked the character of Jim and found him heinous. Then again, I only saw a handful of episodes, mostly because I couldn't understand why so many people rooted for Jim.

    • @MissBlueEyeliner
      @MissBlueEyeliner วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      What I like about this channel is that it doesn’t rigidly stuck to formats and enjoys the nuances more than the same old plot devices every time.
      I’d love to see them do a video on Jim & Dwight, I hope they see your comment 🤞

  • @SaucyJTD
    @SaucyJTD 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +690

    I hadn't seen the proposal between Michael and Holly before this episode, but MAN. If someone ever proposes to me with a bunch of candles set up like it's a Phantom of the Opera set AND makes a goofy inside joke that makes me laugh and cry at the same time? I would have a very hard time saying no 😂❤.

    • @whenwordsfail
      @whenwordsfail วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      You need to watch that episode! Uhh, it was so beautiful.

    • @purple_polenta
      @purple_polenta วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      As a person with OCD, if someone proposed to me in an office that *sells paper* and is full of *paper* and lit candles, I would freak out and run to get a fire extinguisher XD

    • @SaucyJTD
      @SaucyJTD 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @whenwordsfail I'll have to watch all it! In sequential order, not just random episodes 😅. It'll take me some time, of course lol.

    • @SaucyJTD
      @SaucyJTD 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      @purple_polenta I'm a bit of a romantic, so that wouldn't even occur to me until something went wrong 🤣. This is why we need people who think differently in the world! ❤️

  • @lindawilson8154
    @lindawilson8154 วันที่ผ่านมา +114

    My favorite moment with Michael comes from when Holly is in another relationship in "Company Picnic" and he chooses to enjoy the day with her but without making a play for her affection as he originally planned. His touching faith at the end that he and Holly will have "a long story, and then it will be perfect," is so sweet and full of hope.

    • @lighthouse_23_
      @lighthouse_23_ วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I loooove that scene too, gives me the feels and reminds me of how my hubbie was with me before marriage.

    • @blackeneddove
      @blackeneddove 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      When I saw that scene the first time, I knew then they had something real. I was so happy when the proposal finally happened! It makes me tear up a little every time I see it. 🥹

    • @daydreamingaboutbooks
      @daydreamingaboutbooks 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      It’s so cute!

  • @superluig164
    @superluig164 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +189

    One of my absolute favourite moments on The Office is the episode where Michael gets lost in Scranton, and the only one who's able to trace him is Holly. That moment when they find each other at the roof of the building is.. God. What an adorable scene.

    • @tinas_hotdog_sophie
      @tinas_hotdog_sophie วันที่ผ่านมา +16

      Only a person like Michael could have found Michael. Absolutly love that episode and the message it gives. ❤

  • @a_bit_n00bish
    @a_bit_n00bish 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +327

    I absolutely NEED a deepdive on Pam and Jim's relationship!!
    ALSO a video on The Office's platonic relationships!
    Actually.....any videos at all on The Office

    • @taubenfuss1059
      @taubenfuss1059 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Jono did it twice on his other TH-cam channel „mended light“

    • @anastasiianemchunovich
      @anastasiianemchunovich 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@taubenfuss1059 can you please write where exactly?

    • @lCoolPartner
      @lCoolPartner วันที่ผ่านมา

      Just type mended light the office​@@anastasiianemchunovich

    • @TheGameMaster777
      @TheGameMaster777 วันที่ผ่านมา

      There needs to be one on this channel, because JIM AND PAM ARE PERFECT, DAMNIT! NUMBER 1!

    • @sarahhopper8891
      @sarahhopper8891 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ermegerd!! Exactly! I’d love to see more coverage of friendships and other platonic relationships. I’m kinda thinking that this is a bit of a…I don’t want to say blind spot but defintely an oversight on this channel. I would LOVE- LOVE to see the CT guys cover the relationships in the film Popstar: Never Stop Never Stopping. It’s a favorite of my fella & me.

  • @anyitar
    @anyitar 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +117

    My favorite couple is Philips and Bob Vance, he supports her a lot and makes her happy, and he always accompanies her to any office event. She also admires him a lot and shows him off all the time.

    • @KC3YCU
      @KC3YCU วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      They're both a 4 on a good day, but to each other, they're a perfect 10

    • @Oneasianpersuasion
      @Oneasianpersuasion วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      I can't believe they forgot to cover this couple...

    • @lighthouse_23_
      @lighthouse_23_ วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      How could they forget his name, Bob Vance, Vance Refrigeration?

    • @crepequeen643
      @crepequeen643 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I was gonna say this is by far the healthiest relationship of the show; shame it wasn’t included

    • @jakepullman4914
      @jakepullman4914 38 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@crepequeen643Didn't he cheat on her?

  • @joninewman8673
    @joninewman8673 วันที่ผ่านมา +83

    BJ Novak once said that Ryan and Kelly have one thing in common: they both love Ryan. I’ve always thought that was the most brilliant way to boil down the dynamics of that relationship.

  • @avalon1007
    @avalon1007 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +201

    There are two reasons why I truly love this show:
    Jim & Pam: This is one of the most realistic portrayals of a committed, romantic relationship I've seen anywhere.
    Michael: In the first season of the show, Michael is very similar to his counterpart on the British version of the show. When the US version gained so much popularity, the writers realized that they couldn't leave Michael the way he was, because it would be too offensive and off-putting for a longer show. So following the first season, they changed Steve Carell's wardrobe, and started having him consistently learn lessons throughout the show, so that the character could grow over time. Alongside those lessons are the deepening of genuine relationships between himself and the other members of the office. As a result, when he departs the show, it's in an incredibly healthy place and his leaving is impactful.

    • @Zuldaar
      @Zuldaar 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      A correction here: Throughout the series you get to understand that Michael does not and will not learn. He is constantly hearing what he wants to hear, and refuses to acknowledge when he's in the wrong. If you don't know what you're doing wrong, you cannot improve.
      I just finished watching the series about a month ago and I can only pick out 2 moments where Michael actually learned something:
      1st when he was being absolutelly uncooperative as a co-manager, and got to appreciate Jim's help in taking some of the burden.
      2nd: that one scene mentioned on top 1, in the Danger Level: Midnight watch party, everyone was 100% on board with not letting Michael know what they truly thought about his movie, because he does not handle criticism well. It's only Holly who doesn't lie to his face, and what does Michael do? Gets really, really upset. But then we have a moment of actual character growth where Michael calms himself down, accepts that his work is not what he envisioned to be, and now enjoys it with everyone else for what it is.

  • @sneaksyranger
    @sneaksyranger วันที่ผ่านมา +54

    The best part of Ryan and Kelly was Toby remarking that "I don't think Michael meant to torment me by putting Ryan and Kelly next to me, but if he did....well done."

  • @malealoo
    @malealoo 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +114

    That scene of Jim and Pam reconnecting will never not make me cry. Like ugly cry. It's one of the most beautiful and heartbreaking moments I've witnessed on any show. The amount of hope it fills me with is unreal.
    And yes I had tears streaming down my face just from this clip.

    • @tuvelat7302
      @tuvelat7302 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Yep. It's raw. And so beautifully acted.

    • @tinas_hotdog_sophie
      @tinas_hotdog_sophie วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      So happy Jonathan picked this one. It is peak PB & J ❤😂

    • @milesjesu8050
      @milesjesu8050 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      That scene is beautiful. Perfect technically (acting, editing, etc.) and such a beautiful, very much earned, moment. And we feel so good because we want them to make it. In this scene you know their marriage has passed its toughest test.

  • @Anonymous_Individual
    @Anonymous_Individual 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +147

    I’m glad that by season 9 we see that Roy put himself together and is in what seems like a genuinely happy relationship. It helps that it’s been so many years since we’ve seen him and he hasn’t ever tried to get back into Pam’s life. He knows he screwed up and worked on his issues for him, not to win her back.

    • @oliviastratton2169
      @oliviastratton2169 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      Yeah, I think it shows that just because two people are bad for eachother, doesn't mean they're bad people.
      Roy and Pam were capable of being a great husband and wife, just not for eachother.

    • @360shadowmoon
      @360shadowmoon วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@oliviastratton2169 I mean, Roy was kind of abusive..

    • @oliviastratton2169
      @oliviastratton2169 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@360shadowmoon How so?

    • @360shadowmoon
      @360shadowmoon 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@oliviastratton2169 he’s very controlling and aggressive towards Pam

    • @oliviastratton2169
      @oliviastratton2169 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@360shadowmoon He got angry a couple times and he was very unsupportive. I don’t think that made him an abusive boyfriend, just a lousy one.

  • @lishajan21
    @lishajan21 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +105

    The 'love is patient' scene is so beautiful. It was really brave for the writers to explore conflict in Jim and Pam's relationship in the last season of the show. Originally the intention was for infidelity to be the conflict and Jenna Fischer and John Krasinski (who were both producers on the show) really pushed back on that idea. That pushed the writers to reach for something that was more rooted in previous behaviors like Jim making big decisions without talking to Pam and Pam struggling to communicate her needs. The conflict felt more grounded in reality and the resolution felt more earned. They also showed the repair efforts Jim and Pam made. This scene in particular is one of my absolute favorites because it shows them wanting to connect upstairs as they're saying goodbye and then just missing each other. Then Pam sees the umbrella and decides to make one of those bids for connection by taking it to him. Initially Jim doesn't really respond to the bid, but then decides to turn toward Pam and respond with his own bid for connection with the hug. It's really vulnerable for him to hold on when she starts to break away, but he does anyway. Pam is struggling with accepting his efforts to repair because she hasn't felt seen or heard. She kind of resists the hug because you can see she's processing how she feels. She ultimately decides to accept the hug, but it's not because she feels like she should-rather it's because she wants to. They do all of that with very few words but you can see all of it on John and Jenna's faces. Their acting is absolutely incredible. The scene makes me cry every single time.

  • @chelmrtz
    @chelmrtz 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +42

    I do like that scene when Jan tries to stop Michael on the train and shouts out how he supports her when her own family won’t speak to her. It’s a rare actually positive moment for them

  • @thekitywhocan
    @thekitywhocan 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +92

    An office bromances would be awesome, I love how Jim and Dwight end up as besties by the end of the show, btw this is an episode I have been wanting for over a year at this point, and I think you guys nailed it!

    • @Persewna4
      @Persewna4 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Oh, yes, would definitely like to see! Just Office friendships in general, could include ones like Erin & Kelly, Pam & Angela, Phyllis & Stanley, Andy & Darryl, Michael & Dwight, etc...

  • @aleahhenderson-carter61
    @aleahhenderson-carter61 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +322

    Me angrily staring at the screen, waiting for Parks and Rec office romance rankings…

    • @SuperSara924
      @SuperSara924 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

      Midge and Jerry are #1 calling it now

    • @BatAmerica
      @BatAmerica 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +30

      Agreed. I adore the relationship between Ron and Diane due to how honest and imperfect they are.

    • @lillyluvsJesus2
      @lillyluvsJesus2 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      YES! I love parks and REC!!

    • @riaglitta
      @riaglitta 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      They're all perfect, even the terrible ones. Ann and Tom hahahhahahaha TWINKLE TWINKLE BIG STAR

    • @hkfifty871
      @hkfifty871 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

      Off the cuff, I’ll say:
      9: Ron and Tammy (and Tammy 1)- toxic, manipulative, incredibly unhealthy.
      8. Tom and Ann (just lots of conflict and disagreements and just… neither are really ever happy)
      7. Andy and Ann (some genuine affection, but also selfishness and enabling going on)
      6. April and Andy (genuinely a good relationship for most of the show, but the early stages before they actually became a couple had a fair amount of not great behavior)
      5. Donna and Joe (solid love and support, and good relationship growth for Donna)
      4. Chris and Ann (good independent growth and development for both of them, which let them have an OKAY relationship the first time improve into an EXCELLENT relationship the second)
      3. Jerry and Gayle (only because we see so little of their relationship on screen. As described and implied, it would be number 1)
      2. Ben and Leslie (good growth and collaboration for both of them, shared goals, love and affection, and we also see them work through arguments and disagreements in a healthy way).
      1. Ron and Diane (all the same great things, but I think we also see the good relationship ALSO come with a more significant shift in Ron becoming a better version of himself as a result of that relationship).

  • @wrestlingwithlife7297
    @wrestlingwithlife7297 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +317

    Attempt #(14) of asking for Spirit : Stallion of the Cimarron!! Was my absolute childhood movie growing up and the filmmaking is so beautiful with amazing scores and concepts of loss and staying true to once nature even in the face of adversity!

    • @KDeanie
      @KDeanie 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      Joining the fight! Would love them to cover this!

    • @WandaMaximoff1998
      @WandaMaximoff1998 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      I love that movie!!! Major part of my childhood

    • @striderofnorth2368
      @striderofnorth2368 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      I love that movie so much!! Hope they tackle it

    • @JaneXemylixa
      @JaneXemylixa 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Great idea! Yes please

    • @DrRiverWho
      @DrRiverWho 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Joining the fight cause this is a fight worth fighting!!

  • @henyo5409
    @henyo5409 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +42

    Jim and dwight being villains suddenly explains why they are such good friends

  • @finaljim1309
    @finaljim1309 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +146

    Jann and Scott's dinner episode is undoubtedly THE most uncomfortable experience in TV history for me. And I'm honestly glad they broke up because they both deserve happiness and they both find it with other people.
    Side note: I LOVE how dumbfounded Jonathan is when the sponsor part starts and Alan has changed shirts. Killed me when Alan just cut him off and started talking about the sponsor.

    • @annarose2714
      @annarose2714 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Except that, depending on fan theories, Jan found it with someone underage... not great. 😬

    • @finaljim1309
      @finaljim1309 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@annarose2714 ruh roh.... That's...
      Least Micheal is happy! That's who I care about!

    • @annarose2714
      @annarose2714 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @finaljim1309 BINGO! Michael and Holly forever! 😊

    • @Oceansongster
      @Oceansongster 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It’s funny because I usually have a lot of issues with secondhand embarrassment and there are episodes of The Office that I will never watch again (ex Scott’s Tots). That being said, I LOVE the dinner party episode and have watched it multiple times

    • @SamwiseLovesJesus
      @SamwiseLovesJesus 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      “Most uncomfortable” belongs to Scott’s Tots

  • @nosferatussister4903
    @nosferatussister4903 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Love how Michael went from hating Jan’s candles to filling an entire room with candles to propose to Holly. Now THAT’S growth.

  • @ohdrey89
    @ohdrey89 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    My dad always said “never ask a man to choose between his kids or you. A good dad chooses his kids every time.”

  • @pawea1347
    @pawea1347 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +77

    What??? "The Office"??? What a surprise, thank You so much.
    Jim&Pam and Michael&Holly are the best.

  • @fannafannofannu
    @fannafannofannu 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    One of my favorite things about Michael’s growth thanks to his time and love for Holly, is when he realizes that Todd Packer is the worst when he calls Holly uptight. For me, that was it, the epithome of Michael Scott’s journey through maturity.

  • @SomethingKnuw
    @SomethingKnuw วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    “It’s not about what they’re like at their best, it’s about what they’re like at their worst.” As someone who’s seen their fair share of attachment traumas, this puts it alllll in perspective. Genuinely restorative to hear.

  • @waywardmind
    @waywardmind 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    I would love to see a Cinema Therapy for Brooklyn 99 friendships (one) and relationships (two). There's soooo much to dig into in that show.

  • @voxangelaemortis
    @voxangelaemortis วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    I think we need companion pieces: Hero Therapy for Jim, and Villain Therapy (also) for Jim.

  • @jazz_meh
    @jazz_meh 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

    that PB&J scene made me cry 🥲🥲
    also 10/10 putting Michael and Holly at #1

  • @catleaxmas5416
    @catleaxmas5416 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    i really really love Michael and Holly
    I definitely agree that they are number 1. Ever since I watched them I have wanted a relationship like them. They are so lame and dorky together, and I love them so much

  • @phantom6knight
    @phantom6knight วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    It took a few rewatches, but I wholeheartedly agree that Dwight is the true hero of the series. Jim was the "villain." It's like... when Barney Stinson says that Johnny Lawrence is the real hero of the Karate Kid. I'd also love to see something that highlights how the women in The Office go through their own arcs also. But yes, the Office deep dive needs to happen!

  • @megabladechronicles962
    @megabladechronicles962 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I think an interesting episode for you guys to cover would be exploring Michael's journey to find love and acceptance. Michael spends the entire series trying to be the boss everyone loves, and doing so makes everyone hate him, which makes him miserable. Yet by the end of his time on the show, he really does become the boss he always wanted to be

  • @meghanphillips3495
    @meghanphillips3495 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +262

    I can't believe you didn't mention Bob Vance and Phyllis. They're so cute.

    • @mjdbaga
      @mjdbaga 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

      Yeah, they're cute but the show didn't really explore the dynamics of their relationship as compared to the others here.

    • @meghanphillips3495
      @meghanphillips3495 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      @@mjdbaga true. They were definitely more on the sideline compared to the other pairings

    • @andrewdunn8778
      @andrewdunn8778 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      To be fair, Phyllis will also randomly mention terrible stuff they do to and with each other.

    • @EclecticFruit
      @EclecticFruit 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +49

      Do you mean Bob Vance, Vance Refrigeration?

    • @meghanphillips3495
      @meghanphillips3495 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      @@EclecticFruit you know Bob Vance, Vance Refrigeration??

  • @Stephan-so3bx
    @Stephan-so3bx 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +34

    PLEASE do Scrubs!!! JD & Elliot, Turk & Carla, Cox & Jordan, Janitor & Lady, Kelso & Enis (even though we never see her), Ted and Gooch, Elliot & Keith would be great 😍😍😍

  • @almasplushbin
    @almasplushbin 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

    So nice to see Michael getting happiness at the end with Holly! And I agree Jim IS the villain 😂

  • @Ortheas
    @Ortheas 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    I would love to see an analysis of the friendships that develop in The Office. Like between Dwight and Pam, Dwight and Jim, Jim and Michael, Creed and absolutely no one...

  • @LivinBeautifully
    @LivinBeautifully 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    I fully agree with this list and all of your thoughts! It also really hit home when you mentioned how Roy doesn't see Pam and only is there for her when he wants to be, and that Kelly doesn't have the confidence to be with someone who chooses her, which clearly isn't Ryan. My 6.5 year relationship just ended for two of these reasons, and I hope to have someone in the future who chooses me and is there for me in the hard times, even when it's inconvenient.

  • @tinas_hotdog_sophie
    @tinas_hotdog_sophie วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    And Jonathan you picked my absolute favorite Jam moment! I will never get over the way Jim hugs her as if his life depends on it. Her stalling before she hugs him back gave me anxiety the first time I watched. 😂 But then finally they are in sync again ❤
    Fun fact: it was no coincidence that this scene happened in the same spot as his love confession years earlier in Casino Night. The writers were the greatest for details like this ❤

  • @s.k.6100
    @s.k.6100 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    I want more Dwight appreciation. Like why Dwight is the most perfect example of self-confidence and self-respect. There's lots of examples where people where he's being mocked and ridiculed, but his comfort in himself really demonstrates how he's the perfect role model in terms of identity.

  • @gigglegirl150
    @gigglegirl150 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

    Please do a video on Tombstone (1993) the movie is a downright masterpiece, and there's so much to unpack from the friendship between Wyatt and Doc, romance and relationships, how not to cope with grief, villain psychology etc.

  • @sofaking6961
    @sofaking6961 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    psychology of a villain for Toby and how he is secretly the Scranton Strangler would be an amazing episode

    • @lighthouse_23_
      @lighthouse_23_ วันที่ผ่านมา

      The actor hasn't denied it....

  • @Randooooooooooooooom
    @Randooooooooooooooom 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

    listen. i've recenly been obsessed with the office. i absolutely love this channel. i was looking for a kinda long video to watch while doing the dishes. THE STARS HAVE FINALLY ALIGNED

    • @Eliza15151
      @Eliza15151 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      this comment is possibly the most relatable thing i’ve ever seen on the internet.

  • @sammillward62
    @sammillward62 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    It's worth noting with when Kelly lies about being pregnant that Ryan was lying as well. In a previous episode it had been referenced that he had emailed Karen asking her out while with Kelly and she turned him down.

  • @SaucyJTD
    @SaucyJTD 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +34

    I'm so glad you guys covered The Office! I still need to watch it in entirety, and this episode only reaffirmed that ❤.

  • @Zmac808
    @Zmac808 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    I would love a villain therapy for Ryan lmao.
    Also, 100% approve this list

  • @tomatosoup1304
    @tomatosoup1304 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    Kelly and Darryl could've been an IT couple if she was like 15% more mature

  • @Matt-fm2us
    @Matt-fm2us 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

    I know you all said there were so many relationships to cover but I am sad you all didn't do Andy and Erin.

    • @KC3YCU
      @KC3YCU วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      They could've gone the distance if the writers hadn't raked Andy's character over the coals in the last seasons

    • @lighthouse_23_
      @lighthouse_23_ วันที่ผ่านมา

      Also there's some debate about whether they are broken up in the series finale...

  • @GoldHobbit
    @GoldHobbit วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I think there would be some good deep dives into the show:
    Andy not living his authetic life until the end & how he tries to be what other people say he should be
    Dwight's hero arc (because after re-watching he's the real hero and not Jim)
    A deep dive into the struggles Jim & Pam go through (how Jim's previous choices ending up creating instability by asking for forgiveness instead of discussing things together: kissing Pam while she's in a relationship, buying a house without telling Pam, etc.)

  • @snowbird1381
    @snowbird1381 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Did you know that the snip snap thing was completely improvised? The reaction you see on Angela’s face was genuine. Also, in that episode Angela was pregnant in real life. You can kind of see it because they try to hide her with a pillow or flowers.

  • @sennakain6899
    @sennakain6899 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Some future office ideas:
    I would love a deep dive on Michael - can he be diagnosed with anything, what makes him tick, what would a therapy conversation look like etc?
    Also, Jim and Dwight would be a great side by side comparison - they're so different. They start by basically being enemies and ending up with Jim in Dwight's wedding party - it's a great journey to highlight.
    Even just one on Jim (and his constant pranks) would be interesting.
    Andy would be another interesting conversation. For example: it was one of Jim's pranks that caused Andy to punch a hole in the wall - what could have been done so it didn't reach that point (not just the obvious of Jim not pushing him to anger). What do you think about Andy coming back from his anger management retreat "cured", is that a reasonable expectation of anger management? What about his behavior throughout the rest of the series?
    Just some thoughts, great video guys! I'm glad you're doing some office stuff ^^

  • @MaluCLBS
    @MaluCLBS 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    That intro got me guessing. “Here’s the weird thing, they’re absolutely perfect for each other” I’m thinking at least three odd couples fall into that category.

  • @SamwiseLovesJesus
    @SamwiseLovesJesus 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    I’VE BEEN HOPING FOR THIS FOR SO LONG!! BEST SHOW EVER!!!

  • @icywinterof88
    @icywinterof88 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Jim and Pam are dramatically the best couple because its interesting and constantly up and down. But Holly and Michael are the golden standard of loving someone as they are and being able to just communicate and understand one another on a deeper level.

  • @MorningDusk7734
    @MorningDusk7734 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +69

    I still think there’s a version of this show where Pam ends up with no one and is happier for it, where she realizes she doesn’t need to be in a relationship to be happy with her life and grows into her independence. All my favorite Pam moments are when she takes initiative to become stronger on her own, like walking the coals or quitting to join Michael Scott Paper Co.

    • @Maya_hee
      @Maya_hee 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      being in a good relationship doesn't mean you lose your independence though. All those things she can and did do while still being with the love of her life

    • @lCoolPartner
      @lCoolPartner วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Why? I mean...why tho

    • @bombomos
      @bombomos 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah dude. Being alone means bring alone. No ine to talk to our watch movies with or to come home to.
      Especially as you get older. You are alone.

  • @masonhenderson0221
    @masonhenderson0221 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    That Jim and Pam moment makes me BAWL every damn time. I'm currently typing this comment with wet eyes. They may not be the most healthy, but they are definitely my favorite couple on the show.

  • @MariJu1ce
    @MariJu1ce 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    Roy tries to attack jim though, so proves that what you said

    • @milesjesu8050
      @milesjesu8050 วันที่ผ่านมา

      There is also a scene (I think the first Dundies episode) in the parking lot that suggests he was capable of physical violence against Pam. NO NO NO NEVER. Get Pam away from him!

  • @charischristopher4299
    @charischristopher4299 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    I always really adored and wished for more Phyllis and Vance romance. They always seemed like they married late when both were settled into themselves and enjoyed the fun of choosing romance and making the most and naughtiest of it.

    • @lighthouse_23_
      @lighthouse_23_ วันที่ผ่านมา

      My husband and I both married late and we are the better for it!

  • @tefyramazzini4037
    @tefyramazzini4037 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I LOVEEEE THIS!!! this exactly my top 3 of favorite couple in the office, many people didn't understand why Michael and Holly are my top 1 but I just love how perfect they are for each other, they love one another in a very unique and genuine way. Love this video, thank you so much for doing it!

  • @Andrea-iw9gh
    @Andrea-iw9gh 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Michael and Holly for the win!!! Although I do appreciate how The Office explores the ups and downs of marriage with Pam and Jim. It shows that even a great couple has conflict and differences, and that it's indeed possible to work through those.

  • @sleepy-si6no
    @sleepy-si6no 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    "Its not about what they're like at their best, but what they're like at their worst"
    Holy shit you just blew my mind.

  • @annaliesecancilla894
    @annaliesecancilla894 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    3:00 “it breeds contempt, it breeds resentment.” And it breeds my favorite episode of the office 😂😂😂

    • @johnrivers3813
      @johnrivers3813 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      🎶"That one night!"🎶

  • @TheErinbish
    @TheErinbish 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    I would love to rank the bosses of the office based on toxicity. I think Jan is actually a great boss, and Michael is one of the most incompetent.

    • @lighthouse_23_
      @lighthouse_23_ วันที่ผ่านมา

      Michael is a great boss! He truly cares about each worker, he let's Phyllis take 2 hour lunches, he approves time off no problem, he creates a fun environment which does up productivity because selling paper is soooo boring, he breaks up boring work with meetings, he creates a community.
      All work and no play equals low sales, that branch was consistently the highest selling branch.

  • @househannah333
    @househannah333 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Michael being in both the worst and the best rated relationship just proves that it's not always the person that's "toxic" it's sometimes just the combination

  • @bitter_gourd
    @bitter_gourd วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This is a bit of a long-shot and somewhat unreasonable request due to the length of it, but I'd LOVE to see several videos diving into the psychology of Mad Men. I feel like it's a treasure trove of content, from how unaddressed trauma and guilt can affect a life, parenting/parental relationships, how women have to exert themselves in different ways in the workplace etc. A villain/(anti) hero therapy dive into Don Draper would be so interesting!

  • @MonicaGarcia-bd3ci
    @MonicaGarcia-bd3ci 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Please do The Bear: Seven Fishes episode for Christmas! That family needs therapy!

    • @katiec-g3793
      @katiec-g3793 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The best episode ever!!

  • @ThemActually
    @ThemActually วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You had to include that Jim and Pam scene didn’t you? Now I’m crying 😭

  • @lerneanlion
    @lerneanlion 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I never watched this The Office series before because the show never been broadcasted at where I am but I am glad to see some glimpses of it by watching this video. So thank you, Cinema Therapy!

  • @pythonkatie1985
    @pythonkatie1985 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Damn, that line about what they're like at their worst, that is the obvious issue in my marriage and I never considered it like that.

  • @Philybeef
    @Philybeef 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    A whole series based on The Office would be great. There's so much material to cover. The frenemies relationship between Jim and Dwight. Andy Bernard could easily get a whole episode to himself. The father daughter relationship between Michael and Erin. Stanley and Phyllis being each other's work spouses. Etc.

  • @DoggyU
    @DoggyU 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Love that you're planning more Office episodes!

  • @laurapurcell2557
    @laurapurcell2557 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    I am SO happy you're diving into the office ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ please do loads of episodes on it.
    Would especially love to see a Dwight episode. He is my all time favourite character on any TV show. I love him so much 😂 I think he's a misunderstood sweetie 😂

  • @amysego1903
    @amysego1903 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Villain Therapy for Dwight would be fantastic! But even more so, would be David Wallace Villain Therapy, lol.
    Plus examining Michael and narcissism.

  • @leanafus551
    @leanafus551 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    ( Just woke up and am PMSing)
    I opened TH-cam and saw this title and started sobbing in a good way lmao thanks guys for always seeming to deliver the content I need at the right times 😂❤

  • @pelinnable
    @pelinnable 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    In one episode Pam was talking to Nellie and Jim was talking to Toby. They both disappointed but Pam was right about that Jim never consulted to Pam about big desicions. Jim was mostly supportive of Pam but actually he considered himself superior to her.

    • @johnrivers3813
      @johnrivers3813 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I don't think he thought of himself as superior but he did assume he knew what was best for her without actually asking her what she wanted. Good intentions but misguided

  • @skeye665
    @skeye665 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I would love another The Office video from you guys about the top relationships, but friendship edition! Because there are SO many good ones like Dwight/Jim, Pam/Dwight, Dwight/Micheal it's what makes the show the best thing for me more so than the romantic pairings.

  • @ncimbler
    @ncimbler 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Let's be honest, we need a couples therapy episode for Jim and Dwight

  • @abbysinka3565
    @abbysinka3565 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I always cry at that Jim and Pam moment where it flashes back to their wedding and the “love never fails” scene. 🤣😭

  • @bluemoose4826
    @bluemoose4826 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I cried when I first saw the Holly episodes, because I was stuck in a Jan relationship. Seeing that stark contrast and watching some of your videos, then pairing those with months and years of the rebuild that was required due to the damage the jan type relationship gave, after an appropriate amount of time I found my holly...yes we are both incredibly adhd but in all best ways and our very odd shapes fit perfectly together and just like Michel and Holly it just makes sense. I'm also proud I went 7 of 7 for what order and who 🤘🏻🤘🏻

  • @mlove.1376
    @mlove.1376 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Would anyone have believed that Michael would be a part of the most healthy couple ranking? I agree with Jono! Good job.

  • @piecewartenoch4769
    @piecewartenoch4769 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Pls more The Office content. I freaking love this show!

  • @blessedcocoa5729
    @blessedcocoa5729 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    21:14 this proposal was literary the best one I've ever seen. Everyone needs someone to match their flavour of weird😂😂😂

  • @alexhirsch5738
    @alexhirsch5738 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Love Kelly and Darryl moments, because you can see how Kelly could be a better person. When he interrupts her and just says "Slow down. Think it over" is actually incredibly funny.

  • @oriiiughh
    @oriiiughh 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I love Holly and Michael's relationship! Getting to see a character matching Michael's vibe so naturally was so crazy and satisfying. I was like 'Omg, it's The One'. Then it got messy, but God if it didn't get so great at the end.

  • @Bamgeutcutiepie
    @Bamgeutcutiepie 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    jim and pam in the universe of the show, is a love story that really melted me when i first saw it. but in reality, it would SUUUUCK to fall in love at work and then be in a relationship where you live together and then work together too. ( just my opinion - i don't find that to be a good thing. i think couple's need daily time apart - so that they can come back together and have stuff to talk about)
    and also now, when i rewatch, i think it kind of s*cks that Jim eventually chose pam. cause she treated him badly for a long time. she strung him along, whilst betraying her fiancé and hurting both of them. and yet she felt entitled to jim as well, and got jealous when he found someone else. idk i really dont like pam upon rewatch. lol

    • @lighthouse_23_
      @lighthouse_23_ วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Depends on the couple, I live and work with my husband and it works great

    • @Bamgeutcutiepie
      @Bamgeutcutiepie วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@lighthouse_23_ yes, and i said in my view... 💗 im glad it works for you!!

  • @redlox2
    @redlox2 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    I always liked Jim and Pam because they had to earn it over the 9 seasons (especially Jim for the first three). I wasn’t a fan of the drama they added in the last season but I guess drama does bring couples closer together when it’s over? (I think?)

  • @jennburton4189
    @jennburton4189 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Can you please do an analysis of the mismatched but deeply loving friendships in Michael Schur sitcoms? Jim & Dwight (eventually) Leslie & Anne, Jake & Charles, Eleanor & Tahani. On paper, these seem like power imbalances (cool kid vs nerd) but they are all so genuine and deeply loving, these friendships are a big part of why I love Mike Schur shows so much! Also, thanks for all the great videos!

  • @mexsky__
    @mexsky__ 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I would have loved to see your opinion on any (and all) of Andy's relationships, especially with erin

  • @matthewmcnamee2864
    @matthewmcnamee2864 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I would love an evolution of dwight he starts out kinda as a flanderization of a nerd, but then you see him grow into a better person and good management material

  • @DeceasedFlesh
    @DeceasedFlesh 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    YES!! I've been waiting so long for you to do a video on the office! I would love a video dedicated to just Michael one day

  • @tammywilson985
    @tammywilson985 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I agree with the rankings, but I love Dwight & Angela. The car "duel" is one of my favorite episodes.

  • @LaReinaHealsHearts
    @LaReinaHealsHearts 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS EPISODE THANK YOU

  • @covidfeverdream
    @covidfeverdream วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    BREAK DOWN THE FRIENDSHIPS!!! There are SO MANY non romantic relationships besides ‘coworker’ on the Office and, what I find to be, unique pairings.
    Dwight and Jim
    Dwight and Pam
    Stanley and Phyllis
    Oscar and Angela
    Phyllis and Erin
    Jim and Darryl
    Andy and Michael
    Michael and Dwight
    Jo and Michael
    Erin and Kelly
    Michael and David Wallace
    Stanley and pretzels
    The list is extensive.

  • @markchristiansen9611
    @markchristiansen9611 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Andy is interesting psychologically, and grows as a character. His 12 days of Christas for Erin is one of the best and funniest things in the show.

  • @low-keydrama1260
    @low-keydrama1260 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What said a lot about Michael's growth to me, was when he reunited with Holly at the company picnic, he could've tried to romance her, he could've told her everything he was planning to. And if this was Michael from the early seasons, he would've. But he didn't. He respected that she was in another relationship and tried to move on/waiting for her relationship to end before pursuing a relationship with her. Says a lot about how much Michael has grown.

  • @lemuelbach
    @lemuelbach 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The only thing I wish you had commented on is that Michael really really hides some of his worst traits when he's getting to know Holly. For example, he wanted to destroy Toby during his exit interview, and only hid it from Holly, without actually becoming a more mature person.