I just want to give a big shoutout to Mary for her hard work and great attitude even though she's a little nervous because of the camera. Tom Silva is an incredible teacher and master of his craft!
I love all of the little tricks Tom always seems to have up his sleeve that make the jobs go so much smoother. The interns really add a great dynamic to the show giving the hosts a chance to teach more naturally instead of teaching to the camera for the audience.
New construction is awesome that way, also helps if there are no other trades who are getting in his way or routing water pipes right through his runs :D
I'm glad to see that adding blocking for cabinets was shown in this episode. I'm a 3rd generation carpenter and my brother and I were both taught by our dad to use 1/2" plywood on the kitchen interior walls for hanging cabinets. You don't have to search for a stud or misplaced blocking.
@@scottm4969 yep. I know it sounds crazy but when you live in hurricane country any and all strength is welcome plus it is so much easier to install cabinets.
@@scottm4969 "Wish they did that everywhere" That's easy enough. Just get it entered into the building codes as a safety feature. It'll insure that the cabinets are properly installed and prevent them from falling on people's heads in a tornado. But seriously, someone in the industry has to campaign for it at the State level.
1:36 Ha, being an electrician, I was casually listening to his explanation of all the arc fault tails and temp breaker issues, when the host interrupted him becuase he wasnt being clear I couldnt understand why for a split second, and then remembered many of the audience could not understand his language
I hear you, the host is a dumb___. He wants to sound like if he knows it all when in fact he is pretty dumb. Being that he is working with the best you would think he would know a lot more than what he does
@@fvalencia3494 He's not dumb - he's been doing this for decades. His job is to make sure people who are watching understand what is going on - that is why he asks those questions (on behalf of the audience).
So many instances in this series where one of the guys is talking to an expert and asks a question like that. Sure Tom or whoever may know but not every viewer does so they create these moments where the expert can explain fully what is going on as simply as possible.
Not gonna lie, that is that neatest Romex Stapling job I've seen in residential Most of the time they just go above the panel and bunch them up (which requires derating which nobody does), but I'd imagine since this job has cameras on it, they would spend extra time to make it neat. Only problem is that Leviton is a newcomer to panels. Yeah it looks neat but it's really hard to find breakers for them in the store the way you can with Square D, EATON, or traditional names.
those hands at ~19:00 make me nervous, if that screw drifts it is going straight into his fingers, and this is supposedly a new person operating the drill.
child's play. i used to drive 70' pilings and hang 10"x12" whalers. we used a diesel hammer with a 250 ton crane. the drill was air powered with a 5' long bit x 3/4". all this was done while floating on punts in water 60' or more deep.
Seems that the whole point behind that underlayment for the shingles to let them breath and dry if they get wet will only really work for the first row, or the top half the shingles, the parts that overlap other shingles won't be able to air dry if wet.
Wood shingles on a roof in this day and age? That is one high maintenance roof. Hell, slate will last a lifetime, and a metal roof will last 40-50 years.
Building codes vary by region. In areas where the risk of wildfire is high, then yes, wood shingles would be against codes, because they could be lit on fire by embers. TOH demoed fire codes in CA during another recent season. They helped rebuild houses in a community that was burned by the infamous Camp Fire a few years back. Building codes there are very strict about fire hazards, and for good reason. This season, though, is in a coastal community in RI, without the high risk of wildfires, and so the codes are different here.
A barn kit that size is around $50K, plus that architect’s hours, installed to support a solar array. A 10KW array roof installed will be some $30K minus subsidies, and at 40deg N will be near useless in winter. This is all quite silly. Will the barn house cows and a milking machine too?. Insulate and seal the house, and then let the power utility do its job.
40deg angle facing south is pretty ideal in their location. I am in southern Mi and I think it was 42 degrees was optimal for production but it went on my already existing house and garage roof which are 22.5 degrees angle, very happy with the production I am getting. Mine is 8kW and I am expecting close to 10kWh produced in a year. Enough for my house + 10,000 miles of driving a year. My house is NOT energy efficient like theirs (built in 1960s) but a lot smaller. I won't argue that what they are spending is excessive and won't necessarily have an ROI for them but keep in mind they are building their dream house essentially.
whattheschmidt NREL data shows that a solar system in Providence RI, for December collects as low as 20% of a summer month. This means a bad winter week would see 10% or single digits. It’s a dog and pony show. Good for you in Michigan, and I hope you save some money. But note your 8KW / 10kwh/yr array is functioning at a 14% capacity factor, I.e running 14% of the time. Utility solar runs double that, and installs for a third the cost. Utility doesn’t have suboptimal tilt angles, doesn’t have any shadowing from that tree or other house in the afternoon, doesn’t have dirty panels for months because they never found time to get up on the roof to clean this winter. My point is residential solar arrays only pay because I) the utility is forced to take power back through that utility connection which they don’t need nor want, given they can make it five times more cheaply, and ii) the residential system install cost is subsidized. This means in turn that the power utility, which is obligated to provide 24/7 power, must collect more in rates from your neighbors. I know residential solar is popular and criticism is not welcome. Imagine this analogy. I try to grow my own food in the backyard, maybe have a cow for milk. I get half of the planting and fertilizer irrigation etc costs paid for by tax credits. In my climate I can’t produce in winter, and occasionally lose crops because I really don’t know farming, so in season I produce double and force the local grocer-farmer by law to buy my extra produce, who in turn raises prices to cover the spread. There are even TV shows encouraging me with catchy phrase like net zero food. I follow the crowd, and post on the internet how much I’m saving in food costs.
whattheschmidt “dream house”. I agree. The TV series however is titled This Old House, which meant help to people forced economically, or by love of the antique, to maintain an old home, and were willing to learn and put in the labor to DIY with education from professional craftsmen like Tommy. Now as you say the series is better titled My Dream House, where cost is no object. They might as well be building mansions for movie stars in The Hampton’s. TOH has become another corporate lie.
@@Nill757 Criticism is fine but you sound like you work for the utility with the fallacies you provided. "the utility is forced to take power back through that utility connection which they don’t need nor want, given they can make it five times more cheaply, and ii) the residential system install cost is subsidized. This means in turn that the power utility, which is obligated to provide 24/7 power, must collect more in rates from your neighbors." Sure thing buddy - utilities don't want your solar producing because they are forced to take it to the grid - during times when electricity is most expensive and highest (when the A/C is firing the hardest fighting the heat). Yes, utilities make it cheaper but that is irrelevant - my utility (DTE) wants to produce the power themselves but it's more so to secure money for the investors than because 'they can do it better'. There's quite a difference in wholesale rates vs residential rates and that's why small scale solar works. It's also a great use of roof space! December being lower production is pretty irrelevant, solar is offsetting the highest grid demand periods. It will be awhile until there is too much solar but is solvable with storage. Pumped hydro and batteries for instance. The collecting more in rates from your neighbors is another lie to stop customers generating their own power to keep the utility billing up. www.bridgemi.com/guest-commentary/opinion-big-utility-companies-want-limit-options-michigan-customers energynews.us/2019/03/04/midwest/utility-linked-group-seeks-to-dismantle-net-metering-in-michigan/ This is with my utility, one of the worst in the country, so your mileage may vary! Lot of good facts in those articles. My utility does not have the customers best interests in mind!
@@whattheschmidt By all means if you think rooftop solar is the right thing for you, cut loose from the utility and go off grid. But, demanding the utility buy whatever you are selling at retail, while the utility covers the cost for making always-on power, makes you just another grifter. Same goes for the 'Guest Commentary' from Koeppel.. Net metering has already ended in several area; it will eventually end everywhere.
whenever I take measurements, it's 16ths. I only have to write down 1 number and it's harder to get confused if it was 19 3/8" or 19 3/4". I worked with 2 brothers that were dyslexic, so 1/2" was "big" and they counted the lines before or after. so you'd get "19 and 4 past the big one" for 19 3/4"
When I hit the lottery can I hire you guys to come build my home? This way contractors will show up and everyone does the job right the first time so I don't get a shade tree mechanic who may do some work on my home years latter say "Why did they install it this way?, that's wrong they should have installed it this way".
Wood reacts to the ambient humidity. Because shingles are so thin and are made of Cedar or Cypress, they will move more readily than maple or other tighter grain stock. The movement will be across the grain and not lengthwise; hence by the time precipitation actually touches the surface of the shingles, they will be swollen and water tight. This is why you allow wooden floors to rest for three days before installation, also keep all wood stock up at least three feet above a concrete surface. Hope this helps.
As a carpenter, I find it hilarious that almost every apprentice spends $3-400 on their very first tool belt. Never ever would I spend that on some leathers.
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I cant believe she said 11 and 2/8's. She should have said 176/16's and 2/8's. Lol, another thing is what is she doing when she is making a mark for her measurements, is she drawing a pic or what?
@@paulpardee Yes, and I also need two of those blocks cut at eleven and four eighths, and one at eleven and six eighths. While your at it, cut one at eleven and eight eighths
I don't see that nylon material under the shingles doing anything. 1) it looks like it got smashed flat, and 2) there is nothing between the courses of shingles, so they will just behave like normal.
Waste of time fitting blocking. just screw 3/8 plywood to the wall . Then you can put screws anywhere to hold the cabinets. How old are ya now Silva 80 or so? When a Architect runs a job all kinds of impractical methods and materials are used. Wood shingles went out when asphalt came on the scene. Post and beam for a little barn that will never have a cow in it. A real barn has the timbers right into the ground so wind will not uproot it.
I just want to give a big shoutout to Mary for her hard work and great attitude even though she's a little nervous because of the camera. Tom Silva is an incredible teacher and master of his craft!
I love all of the little tricks Tom always seems to have up his sleeve that make the jobs go so much smoother.
The interns really add a great dynamic to the show giving the hosts a chance to teach more naturally instead of teaching to the camera for the audience.
Tom is a gentleman and Mary is absolutely adorable. I thoroughly enjoyed that segment.
That electrical panel though! Give this man a raise!
have never seen an electrical panel that clean
New construction is awesome that way, also helps if there are no other trades who are getting in his way or routing water pipes right through his runs :D
Looks like something out of the space shuttle
Especially since this is made for TV.
I’m always wanting more when I realize the episode is nearly over. Thank you for the fine content This Old House crew!
16:23 "11 and 2/8ths" adorable
Tom didn't skip a beat at that either.
It's nice seeing the blocking go in for putting up the cabinets. You almost never hear anything about this step.
That's what is union guys call "scabs"
When I'm remodeling a house we always put them on
Its needed for some plumbing fixtures to.
Seeing 'Season 40' in the title blows my mind
I'm glad to see that adding blocking for cabinets was shown in this episode. I'm a 3rd generation carpenter and my brother and I were both taught by our dad to use 1/2" plywood on the kitchen interior walls for hanging cabinets. You don't have to search for a stud or misplaced blocking.
Ellis Allen so do you sheath the entire wall with plywood and then cover with drywall?
@@scottm4969 yep. I know it sounds crazy but when you live in hurricane country any and all strength is welcome plus it is so much easier to install cabinets.
Ellis Allen it’s not crazy at all. Wish they did that everywhere
@@scottm4969
"Wish they did that everywhere"
That's easy enough.
Just get it entered into the building codes as a safety feature. It'll insure that the cabinets are properly installed and prevent them from falling on people's heads in a tornado.
But seriously, someone in the industry has to campaign for it at the State level.
Been on the air more than half my life!! Amazing!!
1:36 Ha, being an electrician, I was casually listening to his explanation of all the arc fault tails and temp breaker issues, when the host interrupted him becuase he wasnt being clear I couldnt understand why for a split second, and then remembered many of the audience could not understand his language
Yeah Kevin is good at playing the "Every Man" to ask questions that the mortals might be wondering.
I hear you, the host is a dumb___. He wants to sound like if he knows it all when in fact he is pretty dumb. Being that he is working with the best you would think he would know a lot more than what he does
@@fvalencia3494 He's not dumb - he's been doing this for decades. His job is to make sure people who are watching understand what is going on - that is why he asks those questions (on behalf of the audience).
So many instances in this series where one of the guys is talking to an expert and asks a question like that. Sure Tom or whoever may know but not every viewer does so they create these moments where the expert can explain fully what is going on as simply as possible.
The Festool Track Saw is the only tool I bought from that company. DeWalt impact is industry standard. Nothing beats it
really cool you guys have apprentices.. that way we can learn too!
That barn raising amoung lots of other things was awesome!
16:23 11-2/8? You mean 11-1/4
I was just about to say that
EqUaLiTy
That's why "apprentice" should be learning in a classroom too not just on the job. It's all about the maths
That was hilarious, but she is an apprentice .... and a girl! Lol.
Its better than "11 and 4 lines" :)
If money wasn't an issue, this would be my dream project.
It seems these episodes don't air on my local Public Broadcasting network so I anxiously wait for the episodes to post on the TH-cam channel.
I love woodworking, I would love to learn from you guys.
For the apprentices, this has pretty much got to be like showing up to pitching practice and finding out that the instructor is Nolan Ryan.
Barn Raising doesn't quite feel the same when you use a crane.
16:25...11 and 2/8... HA an apprentice should know better than that!
I got a laugh out of that one myself lol
She must’ve just been hyper focused on counting in 1/8 increments. She’s not a professional actor, so I can understand if she’s a bit nervous
11 2/8 is still correct
MrJabez89 EXACTLY! She’s not wrong.....
@@MrJabez89 no one says 2/8.
I'd use metal roofing on a "modern" barn.
That's a seriously cool saw at 16:46
Not gonna lie, that is that neatest Romex Stapling job I've seen in residential Most of the time they just go above the panel and bunch them up (which requires derating which nobody does), but I'd imagine since this job has cameras on it, they would spend extra time to make it neat. Only problem is that Leviton is a newcomer to panels. Yeah it looks neat but it's really hard to find breakers for them in the store the way you can with Square D, EATON, or traditional names.
That post and beam is fine except for that rebar peg, what is to keep the barn from blowing away in a high wend? It needs some hold-down provisions.
those hands at ~19:00 make me nervous, if that screw drifts it is going straight into his fingers, and this is supposedly a new person operating the drill.
She's an intern, but not a total novice. She has some building experience, but wanted to learn more.
There is so much going on on Tom's tool belt I wouldn't be suprised if that belt could fix coronavirus
Will the shingles rot still because they are touching eachother so water will still be within each after a rain. Do these have to be pressure treated
11 2/8"? What? Tommy teach her right! Haha
Can anyone tell me about the black fascia boards? Thanks
Used to build post and beam houses...man it was cool! Miss it. (We called the pegs.."Donkey Dic*s!)😁
child's play. i used to drive 70' pilings and hang 10"x12" whalers. we used a diesel hammer with a 250 ton crane. the drill was air powered with a 5' long bit x 3/4". all this was done while floating on punts in water 60' or more deep.
Tom Silva's finger at 10:48 looks scary.
Nice project/ How is your friend Roger doing.
16:24 11in 2/8 huhh 🤨
I have a question: Why use shingle vs. slate? In Europe most of the houses get a roof that is maintenance free for life.
the elec panel looks good #arc and gfi #nec #bonded #hot neutrals #square d
Why does Tommy get a harness but the interns don't? haha
don't you love it too when the playlist is upside down?
Seems that the whole point behind that underlayment for the shingles to let them breath and dry if they get wet will only really work for the first row, or the top half the shingles, the parts that overlap other shingles won't be able to air dry if wet.
But the air movement underneath the entire roof shingle structure will. If it wasn't there, then the wetness just stays. That's the whole point!
Wood shingles on a roof in this day and age? That is one high maintenance roof. Hell, slate will last a lifetime, and a metal roof will last 40-50 years.
Love The vids
I was surprised to see wood shingles being used as building codes in many areas do not allow them because of the fire hazard.
Well it is on an island (in the northeast plenty of rain) I think treated they get 15-25 yr gurantees
Building codes vary by region. In areas where the risk of wildfire is high, then yes, wood shingles would be against codes, because they could be lit on fire by embers. TOH demoed fire codes in CA during another recent season. They helped rebuild houses in a community that was burned by the infamous Camp Fire a few years back. Building codes there are very strict about fire hazards, and for good reason. This season, though, is in a coastal community in RI, without the high risk of wildfires, and so the codes are different here.
@@morlamweb Ah, that makes more sense. Thanks for the explanation.
A barn kit that size is around $50K, plus that architect’s hours, installed to support a solar array. A 10KW array roof installed will be some $30K minus subsidies, and at 40deg N will be near useless in winter. This is all quite silly. Will the barn house cows and a milking machine too?.
Insulate and seal the house, and then let the power utility do its job.
40deg angle facing south is pretty ideal in their location. I am in southern Mi and I think it was 42 degrees was optimal for production but it went on my already existing house and garage roof which are 22.5 degrees angle, very happy with the production I am getting. Mine is 8kW and I am expecting close to 10kWh produced in a year. Enough for my house + 10,000 miles of driving a year. My house is NOT energy efficient like theirs (built in 1960s) but a lot smaller. I won't argue that what they are spending is excessive and won't necessarily have an ROI for them but keep in mind they are building their dream house essentially.
whattheschmidt NREL data shows that a solar system in Providence RI, for December collects as low as 20% of a summer month. This means a bad winter week would see 10% or single digits. It’s a dog and pony show.
Good for you in Michigan, and I hope you save some money. But note your 8KW / 10kwh/yr array is functioning at a 14% capacity factor, I.e running 14% of the time. Utility solar runs double that, and installs for a third the cost. Utility doesn’t have suboptimal tilt angles, doesn’t have any shadowing from that tree or other house in the afternoon, doesn’t have dirty panels for months because they never found time to get up on the roof to clean this winter.
My point is residential solar arrays only pay because I) the utility is forced to take power back through that utility connection which they don’t need nor want, given they can make it five times more cheaply, and ii) the residential system install cost is subsidized. This means in turn that the power utility, which is obligated to provide 24/7 power, must collect more in rates from your neighbors.
I know residential solar is popular and criticism is not welcome. Imagine this analogy. I try to grow my own food in the backyard, maybe have a cow for milk. I get half of the planting and fertilizer irrigation etc costs paid for by tax credits. In my climate I can’t produce in winter, and occasionally lose crops because I really don’t know farming, so in season I produce double and force the local grocer-farmer by law to buy my extra produce, who in turn raises prices to cover the spread. There are even TV shows encouraging me with catchy phrase like net zero food. I follow the crowd, and post on the internet how much I’m saving in food costs.
whattheschmidt “dream house”.
I agree. The TV series however is titled This Old House, which meant help to people forced economically, or by love of the antique, to maintain an old home, and were willing to learn and put in the labor to DIY with education from professional craftsmen like Tommy. Now as you say the series is better titled My Dream House, where cost is no object. They might as well be building mansions for movie stars in The Hampton’s. TOH has become another corporate lie.
@@Nill757 Criticism is fine but you sound like you work for the utility with the fallacies you provided. "the utility is forced to take power back through that utility connection which they don’t need nor want, given they can make it five times more cheaply, and ii) the residential system install cost is subsidized. This means in turn that the power utility, which is obligated to provide 24/7 power, must collect more in rates from your neighbors."
Sure thing buddy - utilities don't want your solar producing because they are forced to take it to the grid - during times when electricity is most expensive and highest (when the A/C is firing the hardest fighting the heat). Yes, utilities make it cheaper but that is irrelevant - my utility (DTE) wants to produce the power themselves but it's more so to secure money for the investors than because 'they can do it better'. There's quite a difference in wholesale rates vs residential rates and that's why small scale solar works. It's also a great use of roof space!
December being lower production is pretty irrelevant, solar is offsetting the highest grid demand periods. It will be awhile until there is too much solar but is solvable with storage. Pumped hydro and batteries for instance.
The collecting more in rates from your neighbors is another lie to stop customers generating their own power to keep the utility billing up.
www.bridgemi.com/guest-commentary/opinion-big-utility-companies-want-limit-options-michigan-customers
energynews.us/2019/03/04/midwest/utility-linked-group-seeks-to-dismantle-net-metering-in-michigan/
This is with my utility, one of the worst in the country, so your mileage may vary! Lot of good facts in those articles. My utility does not have the customers best interests in mind!
@@whattheschmidt By all means if you think rooftop solar is the right thing for you, cut loose from the utility and go off grid. But, demanding the utility buy whatever you are selling at retail, while the utility covers the cost for making always-on power, makes you just another grifter. Same goes for the 'Guest Commentary' from Koeppel.. Net metering has already ended in several area; it will eventually end everywhere.
I like the wood roof but with the webbing material what that allow Hornets and bees and whatever else in
At 10:50 Tommy has a pretty nasty scar on his left index finger.
Tom ought to know that it’s wainscot not waynescoat
11 2/8" must be the new math.
Did I miss the part about why they chose the post-and-beam method?
11 2/8? Lol. Did they leave that in on purpose? Had to.
she's new. it's the same on the tape even if she calls it 8/32.
Shirley she meant 11 500/2000ths.
whenever I take measurements, it's 16ths. I only have to write down 1 number and it's harder to get confused if it was 19 3/8" or 19 3/4". I worked with 2 brothers that were dyslexic, so 1/2" was "big" and they counted the lines before or after. so you'd get "19 and 4 past the big one" for 19 3/4"
Everyone has to start somewhere. Imagine having to start surrounded by cameras on a legendary show.
When I hit the lottery can I hire you guys to come build my home? This way contractors will show up and everyone does the job right the first time so I don't get a shade tree mechanic who may do some work on my home years latter say "Why did they install it this way?, that's wrong they should have installed it this way".
probably a $600K house upgrade, being in the expensive, liberal, union and contractor strangling filthy northeast.?
@@geraldbennett7035 haha
nice!
18:22 she almost sent that piece into the camera😂
wow someone sure seemed to like having music in the episode. ☺
Tommy needs to tell her what she needs to carry in a belt...She's loaded down, but still doing tha thing.
"The wood shingle would swell and become water tight", what about the first 30 minutes when it rains?
Wood reacts to the ambient humidity. Because shingles are so thin and are made of Cedar or Cypress, they will move more readily than maple or other tighter grain stock. The movement will be across the grain and not lengthwise; hence by the time precipitation actually touches the surface of the shingles, they will be swollen and water tight.
This is why you allow wooden floors to rest for three days before installation, also keep all wood stock up at least three feet above a concrete surface. Hope this helps.
what happened to Tom's finger?
As a carpenter, I find it hilarious that almost every apprentice spends $3-400 on their very first tool belt. Never ever would I spend that on some leathers.
I did, after 15 years in to it and could easily afford it.
Don't make or use obsolete shingles from wood, duh. Tommy gotta boo-boo on his finger.
18:20 made me a little nervous!
She's cute af
Mary is a hottie
You know, if people did not overload their electrical system, there would be no fires from electrical systems.
Did she say 11 and 2/8ths
This is a old clip the roof was from a couple of years ago
"yes Sir" okaaay 😳
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I cant believe she said 11 and 2/8's. She should have said 176/16's and 2/8's. Lol, another thing is what is she doing when she is making a mark for her measurements, is she drawing a pic or what?
Eleven and two eighths??
Hey, if I can go buy 6 quarter lumber, she can cut it to 11 and 2 eighths!
@@paulpardee
Yes, and I also need two of those blocks cut at eleven and four eighths, and one at eleven and six eighths.
While your at it, cut one at eleven and eight eighths
You can never get to net zero.
Hi
It's log raising not barn-raising.
Wood shingles, seriously?
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I think thats a lot of work just for a wood roof why all that matrix
I don't see that nylon material under the shingles doing anything. 1) it looks like it got smashed flat, and 2) there is nothing between the courses of shingles, so they will just behave like normal.
It's the same material as ridge vent. Personally not a good roof system.
Wow this is bad!!
moldy houses...
Waste of time fitting blocking. just screw 3/8 plywood to the wall . Then you can put screws anywhere to hold the cabinets. How old are ya now Silva 80 or so? When a Architect runs a job all kinds of impractical methods and materials are used. Wood shingles went out when asphalt came on the scene. Post and beam for a little barn that will never have a cow in it. A real barn has the timbers right into the ground so wind will not uproot it.
Did she actually say “11 and 2/8”????? Jesus Christ.
Id like this apprentice to test my frame 😎🔨