This is the most fantastic show for home improvement, the trades and general building/construction. You can tell anytime any of the show hosts begin their teaching moments the years of experience shine through. I learn a lot every time I watch, and have been able to fix my own home numerous times just by watching and learning.
the tile guy dont even know what the grooves are for? thats crazy. the grooves should all be straight in a line all parallel so that the air can escape and create a suction. the proper notch size should be determined by the tile size.
Yeah, he was a jabroni...They should have just done Terrazzo if they wanted such clear wide surfaces...But, in his defense, as much as he's buttering the back, it will stick like a sumbitch most likely...When you do it right; you don't need to butter them. :)...
Kevin tells Richard that 20 years ago he was watching every episode as a fan. Today I would like to be watching every episode as a fan but it's never on where I live. I have to come here and see the show.
Not to call out the tile guys, but with tile that large you really need exceptional floor prep and directional troweling. Straight lines for the air to escape.
Waaaaait a minute. You guys are intending to have Nathan as a future substitute for Tom? If you do, drop that idea right now. TOM IS IMMORTAL!!! He'll outlast all of us!
I have heard from an insider that Tom wants to move on from the show. He is tired about having to argue about budgets with the owner. Jeff Sweener was offered the position but only if he would move to Boston, but he doesn’t want to leave RI. The search is still on....
@@milanroets9697 I could see Sweenor doing the show, he is a very skillful, good and nice guy, but I don't want a substitute for Tommy. I want him in the show forever.
I bet Tom has shims hidden in his pockets at any given notice. Wife: Hey baby.. come jump in bed Bed: *squeaks* Tom: _Pulls out 15 shims_ Hold on honey.
I was thinking the same thing. Swirls create air bubbles which can cause cracks. I talked to a 25 year professional tile installer who does very high end homes. He said he has been swirling for several years and has never had an issue. Personally I would have put in more leveling clips as well.
Swirling your thinset is a surefire way to get cracks in your tile, especially with large format tiles! Directional troweling and back buttering is simply a better technique.
I've set some larger tiles. Trowel the thinset all in one direction and back butter the tiles. Set the tile down about 1/2" or so from final position, and press down and slide it over. Collapses the ridges and get maximum coverage. If a tile is sunken below adjacent tiles, remove, retrowel the floor, and trowel mortar onto the tile itself. That usually lifts it enough while maintaining good coverage. I'm sure those guys know what they are doing, but a lot of tilers try to lay large format tiles like they used to lay regular size tiles with random pattern trowelling. That wont always fly.
The company I work for has been installing alot of very large tile called Laminam.....1 meter by 3 meters.....up to just over 5 foot by just over 10 foot, porcelain.
@Just think ikr...and the new additions taking up most of the yard too. After all that work and money they'll probably end up selling it in 2-3 years so they can buy another house with a bigger yard.
That design is based on a classic BUT wall mounting it turns it into a complete sh!t-show pastiche. The free suspended ones from the ceiling are superb.
This kitchen is rectilinear with no work triangle - oven & fridge on one far wall and cook tops (2) and sink on a same ‘wall’ of windows overlooking a main road County (?) or State (?) bus route road.
The engineer in me will never allow anything but a woodstove in my house. A fireplace is just so useless and it pulls heat out of your house! It's like a heat leafblower in the middle of the winter. Nothing like an open flue to evacuate all of your floor radiant heat. hahahahaha
Dave C. Try living in a four century old English cottage with inglenook fireplace so large it has seats built into the sides. When you light a fire the draw is so strong the room actually gets colder!
It's Florida. In this case; it's just a focal point...But, on that note; there are great systems you can install that will send the fire heat into the room without compromising the room with smoke...I have some friends here on the east coast that ONLY use the fireplace in winter...If you have a good cheap source of wood; they are awesome!
Mythbusters did a great episode on this phenomena. They discovered that in a home with an open fire, the room with the fireplace may get warmer but all the other rooms is the house get colder!
Hmm... Trust the guy's that have done this professionally for years, or trust the guy posting a comment under a pseudonym on TH-cam? I wonder which one I will choose.
I always love watching TOH episodes and projects, but this architectural design is not at all my style. I think she went way off from MCM styling, and not in a good way.
When McMansion thinking meets MCM, "more is more", right?? I agree with you, MCM is often far simpler designs with a lot of emphasis on the small details that showcase the design and quality.
This Old House has let me down. Usually the skill level is very high, but your tile setter is a hack. I can't believe a knowledgable professional tile setter let you film them doing everything wrong.
4x4 cement-look tiles to cover a floor this size (less than 2ox32=4o tiles) like this is ridiculous requirement - 12x12 (16o) or 18x18 (12o) marble or granite tiles without grout lines would have been fine - and they wang straight lines without a grout line is dumb.
No, some other European brand. Would be interesting to find out which one. Some of the drawers on them are the same as offered by IKEA, as well as all the slides shown. I've used IKEA cabinets and love them! Very high quality components at a very affordable price. Did a kitchen and also modified kitchen cabs for bathrooms as well.
That melamine will keep out most any moisture, making them last a very long time. The feet will also save them from being damaged from any floor or spill.
Lol why is the Pro tile guy arching his thinset grooves!? That's a no no. Straight lines only. Also back buttering would be better than notching the back of the tile. Hmmm...
I love Tom, but I'd be using my PLS laser for some of these maneuvers. It has a very thin line & works in one or multiple directions at the same time. It's like one of my favorite tools. AND...once I figure where I'm gonna place my shims, I use a little liquid nails behind the jamb & a small dab between the shims so they are locked in PERMANENTLY. Especially useful when installing the shims so they don't drop out as your adjusting them. Anyone ever have that problem?? Probably not!! This way if the shims decide to move a hair or split over the years, the glue will hold them from ever falling or slipping around.
All that extra work over a normal house...just to make it look terrible. I think Tommy agrees. I'm baffled at the fact that there is actually a market for tiles that look like concrete - for that great jail cell look you always wanted in your kitchen!
Tiles like that work well in modern or MCM houses. A lot of empashis goes on the small details and simplicity, or making things not stand out. My house is an old Modern house and I wish I would have gone with large format concrete look tiles versus the faint grey wood look tiles I used. In most other traditional designs, they dont fit.
And now we've seen the most complicated way to install a prehung. How about instead 1 establish left too right center. 2 plumb hinge side opening with shims. 3 throw it in the hole with door still hanging 4 nail hinge side off where you want it. 5 the door itself tells you the rest of the story to complete installation.
@@DiscoFang No, mastic dries. It can also become wet and soft again. Its the only reason it can be sold pre-mixed! Thinset and mortar begin chemical reactions when water is added, which causes them to permanently set up.
The fireplace is hardly the "cutting edge " of modern design if it was designed in the 60s! That is almost 60 years old- not saying that this old design doesn't fit in the house , but it is hardly really new and modern anymore.
@@mully006I realise that it is a set style called "modern-they usually on here are calling it "mid-century modern" which makes sense. I don't think that there can be a cutting edge to it still. You couldn't talk about "cutting edge" Federal, unless you meant that it was cutting edge 200 years ago. I suppose that could be what he means, but it didn't come across that way to me. By the way do you know what more modern styles are around now? I mean modern as in new, not "Modern" as in "Mid-century Modern".
It seems like all their work is for high income workers.Why can't they help real people,like low income seniors.These are the people that everyone forgets.
@@markmorris3579 then watch another show. There’s plenty of vids on TH-cam for that. If TOH did what you suggest, nobody would watch because it’s been done 199k times before. You’re not the target demographic, move on.
I always laugh when I see a house like this where nothing is traditional. You just know the next skinny jean wearing owner will rip it all out and throw it away.
Ladies & Gents, 21:00 - 21:09 is not how you accurately measure 27¾. I wished the young guy would've double checked the old guy on camera and tell him, no it's not, "right there." That could've easily been ⅛ to ¼ out. SMH.
The personalities of these hosts is like white bread with a soda cracker filling. Now I know why everybody misses Roger, in comparison he is a sloppy joe.
guys its time to leave the 1970s and get a laser level to start....what a waste of time. This is clear evidence of someone who has become great in old ways of doing things and refuses to change despite many advantages. Just like my old man. Also, if the floor is not 2-3mm flat within every 10 ft then floor prep is required. If its close to that range and the odd hump can be knocked down you should still use 1 clip per foot to allow for bowing in the tile and small variance in the substrate. I guarantee that if the floor is not in that ballpark, using 2 clips per 4ft will definitely have lippage. These fellas have a lot to change to be able to call themselves "tile setters" in today's world. Its also guys like this that think their 2 ft Stabila level is going to get the counter top perfect end to end and why backsplash's have to be cheated in one way or another 99% of the time. I think they should rename the show "these old techniques".
This ultra-rectilinear crap is ridiculous. Talk about waste of energy in heat treating useless volumes of air and outdoors under driveway, and paving with oversized materiél which is extremely picayune in being straight, but don’t like needed percolation gaps to accumulate rain water and transport it to cisterns (dry wells) These shows did this house is a waste.
This is the most fantastic show for home improvement, the trades and general building/construction. You can tell anytime any of the show hosts begin their teaching moments the years of experience shine through. I learn a lot every time I watch, and have been able to fix my own home numerous times just by watching and learning.
This Old House is an oold show, too. I remember being a child in the early 90s and seeing this on the TV.
Wow. TOH just gave me the solution to my kitchen problem!!!! Moving the oven like the homeowner did. Solves everything!!
"are you aloud to nail screws?" "oh sure" love you Tommy
haha, I heard "Your mother nail Screws?" after the 6th time I caught the "are you"...
Philips head nails and a metric hammer.
Everything is a nail if you have a big enough hammer.
I've never seen anyone do that
As a elevator door guy, I used a magnet and plumb bob for years. The only practical way to get it right, without pain.
Tommy and Nathan r true professionals..
Great of you guys to go back to old projects.. best show ever!
The toweling of the thinset under the Large format tile needs to go in one direction to avoid air pockets. One direction will allow air to escape.
While I'm not a fan of tile that large, I really dug those tabs that kept the edges even.
That blew my mind. Maybe it could be used on smaller format tile too
tHAT WAS MY GREEN PICKUP IN THE OPENING SHOT OF THE KEY WEST HOUSE, TIME FLYS , THE FLOOR GUY,
Ha. That is something. Now you're part of their history.
Kevin: You allowed to nail screws?
Tommy: Oh sure!
Tommy: 🎵“Plumb up the jamb” 🎵
I’m so glad I’m not the only one thinking this.
Lol i thought the same
Wow i really was concerned for myself at first but i have found my people.
Gershwin17 Literally sang this out loud and then looked to the comments and found this. LOL
Just a little more
I installed the same large format floor tile in my house and it looks amazing. It's called 47"x47" Bottega Acero.
the tile guy dont even know what the grooves are for? thats crazy. the grooves should all be straight in a line all parallel so that the air can escape and create a suction. the proper notch size should be determined by the tile size.
Yeah, he was a jabroni...They should have just done Terrazzo if they wanted such clear wide surfaces...But, in his defense, as much as he's buttering the back, it will stick like a sumbitch most likely...When you do it right; you don't need to butter them. :)...
Yeah I’m sure it will be fine
@@MrBrando8364 Check clearing guaranteed!
by the tile size and substrate quality as far as flatness goes.
66ĺ8mmmm
Kevin tells Richard that 20 years ago he was watching every episode as a fan. Today I would like to be watching every episode as a fan but it's never on where I live. I have to come here and see the show.
Not to call out the tile guys, but with tile that large you really need exceptional floor prep and directional troweling. Straight lines for the air to escape.
Watched this show and home time as a kid.
How Tommy resisted the urge to point out “Now, when you’re hanging European cabinets, it’s important to find yourself a metric level” I’ll never know.
Stabila makes only metric levels.
Waaaaait a minute. You guys are intending to have Nathan as a future substitute for Tom? If you do, drop that idea right now. TOM IS IMMORTAL!!! He'll outlast all of us!
I have heard from an insider that Tom wants to move on from the show. He is tired about having to argue about budgets with the owner. Jeff Sweener was offered the position but only if he would move to Boston, but he doesn’t want to leave RI. The search is still on....
@@milanroets9697 I could see Sweenor doing the show, he is a very skillful, good and nice guy, but I don't want a substitute for Tommy. I want him in the show forever.
Awesome so humble bringing in new blood and material and concepts
I bet Tom has shims hidden in his pockets at any given notice.
Wife: Hey baby.. come jump in bed
Bed: *squeaks*
Tom: _Pulls out 15 shims_ Hold on honey.
He’s always ready for a shim job
I was told you need straight lines when laying thinset so the notches van properly collapse.
I cold not help but to put googly eyes on that fire place.
*inserts screw*
Tommy: "Nice!"
*inserts screw again*
Tommy: "Nice!"
They're already notching the tiles bad. Air pockets galore in those tiles. Drop something slightly heavy on it and it's going to crack.
This house is sure not typical. Nice
Her comes the keyboard carpenters
Here*
Tom is the best!
i love plum jam too, oh wait, not what I thought this was :)
Wow I've never seen a screw get hammered in! Mind blown😂
Tommy in da house kicking out the jambs!
The tile mortar was applied incorrectly. It should never be swirled, especially for porcelain tiles.
I was thinking the same thing. Swirls create air bubbles which can cause cracks. I talked to a 25 year professional tile installer who does very high end homes. He said he has been swirling for several years and has never had an issue. Personally I would have put in more leveling clips as well.
Yep, correct: th-cam.com/video/Way5bMh-eYg/w-d-xo.html
Tile should last several decades not years
Are you a professional tile installer?
A concrete floor in your home. Give me some caviar as a topping for my ice cream. YUK!
It can look pretty cool, but it's very hard and cold. Wooden floors are definitely the best imo.
Man, that plumb line would drive me nuts...thank the tech gods for lasers. Props old man for still using old methods but I'm keeping it 2020 :-D
Tommy wait for the floor install..
Then install your door..
Swirling your thinset is a surefire way to get cracks in your tile, especially with large format tiles! Directional troweling and back buttering is simply a better technique.
Trying to imagine doing tile work as a profession only to be filmed laying them down woth the mortar done completely wrong. Good call guys.
You're the expert huh? They didn't use mortar.
I've set some larger tiles. Trowel the thinset all in one direction and back butter the tiles. Set the tile down about 1/2" or so from final position, and press down and slide it over. Collapses the ridges and get maximum coverage. If a tile is sunken below adjacent tiles, remove, retrowel the floor, and trowel mortar onto the tile itself. That usually lifts it enough while maintaining good coverage.
I'm sure those guys know what they are doing, but a lot of tilers try to lay large format tiles like they used to lay regular size tiles with random pattern trowelling. That wont always fly.
The company I work for has been installing alot of very large tile called Laminam.....1 meter by 3 meters.....up to just over 5 foot by just over 10 foot, porcelain.
The fireplace looks like a light post mounted to the ceiling lol. And a fugly one at that.
That's mid-century modern style for you. You either are instantly in love with it or utterly repulsed by it.
@Just think ikr...and the new additions taking up most of the yard too. After all that work and money they'll probably end up selling it in 2-3 years so they can buy another house with a bigger yard.
That design is based on a classic BUT wall mounting it turns it into a complete sh!t-show pastiche. The free suspended ones from the ceiling are superb.
Great episode!
No mention at all to the the preparation of the sub floor, the most important part of the process. If the floor is not flat you have a big problem😩
This kitchen is rectilinear with no work triangle - oven & fridge on one far wall and cook tops (2) and sink on a same ‘wall’ of windows overlooking a main road County (?) or State (?) bus route road.
Is it more expensive to have tile this way than the smaller tiles?
The engineer in me will never allow anything but a woodstove in my house. A fireplace is just so useless and it pulls heat out of your house! It's like a heat leafblower in the middle of the winter.
Nothing like an open flue to evacuate all of your floor radiant heat. hahahahaha
Dave C. Try living in a four century old English cottage with inglenook fireplace so large it has seats built into the sides. When you light a fire the draw is so strong the room actually gets colder!
We love our gas inserts.
It's Florida. In this case; it's just a focal point...But, on that note; there are great systems you can install that will send the fire heat into the room without compromising the room with smoke...I have some friends here on the east coast that ONLY use the fireplace in winter...If you have a good cheap source of wood; they are awesome!
@@godbluffvdgg Florida?? This is in Massachusetts.
Mythbusters did a great episode on this phenomena. They discovered that in a home with an open fire, the room with the fireplace may get warmer but all the other rooms is the house get colder!
So I could be wrong but isn't it against ansi standard to use swirl motions when you lay tile?
Yup, these guys are doing it wrong. th-cam.com/video/Way5bMh-eYg/w-d-xo.html
@@reddog418 This needs more exposure
Hmm... Trust the guy's that have done this professionally for years, or trust the guy posting a comment under a pseudonym on TH-cam? I wonder which one I will choose.
@@scottrussell8463 hey Scott it was a question not an opinion.
@@DBRSAstonMartin Seemed more like a passive-aggressive comment to me. After all, how many people know what's ANSI standards are? Just my opinion.
2:45 ... so Tommy is 5 foot 2” tall. I always wondered.
I think he is closer to 5-4 to 5-5 to be fair.
He put the level on 60” mark and it was at his nose, he’s probably around 5’6”
BigAl that’s what I was thinking. 5’2” is pretty short for a guy, if he was that we all would’ve noticed a long time ago.
i was hoping the fireplace guy would say "absolutely" a few more times. i don't think he said it enough in his 3 minutes.
"absolutely". Haha!
Male apprentice dipped 😂😂😂
Can you do a pizza in that fire box?
Holy S***. I'm headed to the patent office right now. 20 years from now they'll be making a movie explaining how i stole that idea from you.
Fantastic build! Congratulations to the female cabinet installer- great choice on your trade! we need more women in the trades!
0:55 Climbs about a 10' and transitions to scaffold plank without a helmet. I don't think OSHA approves.
Thanks Karen...
No plum ,Strawberry.
I always love watching TOH episodes and projects, but this architectural design is not at all my style. I think she went way off from MCM styling, and not in a good way.
When McMansion thinking meets MCM, "more is more", right?? I agree with you, MCM is often far simpler designs with a lot of emphasis on the small details that showcase the design and quality.
Giant tile will crack in 1 year.
5:53 Plumb, plumb the jam, plumb it up.
This Old House has let me down. Usually the skill level is very high, but your tile setter is a hack. I can't believe a knowledgable professional tile setter let you film them doing everything wrong.
how long was kevin waiting to fit ambiance into a conversation
1:03 I love when Kevin neighs like a horse haha. every time
4x4 cement-look tiles to cover a floor this size (less than 2ox32=4o tiles) like this is ridiculous requirement - 12x12 (16o) or 18x18 (12o) marble or granite tiles without grout lines would have been fine - and they wang straight lines without a grout line is dumb.
If u paint the door green ?
Why do they always leave the wooden shims sticking out?
They trim them off later.
That tiling was bad, huge gaps without thinset, just a plop of it in the middle and notches all wrong 🙈
were those IKEA cabinets?
No, some other European brand. Would be interesting to find out which one. Some of the drawers on them are the same as offered by IKEA, as well as all the slides shown. I've used IKEA cabinets and love them! Very high quality components at a very affordable price. Did a kitchen and also modified kitchen cabs for bathrooms as well.
I hate particle board cabinets.
Quality press board cabinets.🧐
Dag Nab It! You have no respect. Quality European press board cabinets.
That melamine will keep out most any moisture, making them last a very long time. The feet will also save them from being damaged from any floor or spill.
I don’t think anybody in key west has socks or shoes.
Lol why is the Pro tile guy arching his thinset grooves!? That's a no no. Straight lines only. Also back buttering would be better than notching the back of the tile. Hmmm...
oh my gosh 40 years already! it only seems yesterday i saw the first episode! i was only 39!! i am now 69----wow.
I think you miss 10 years? 🤪
Is that in metric years?🤨
ok boomer
@@duncanvlaar8017 lol yes i miss counted thanks. i was actually 29.
@@alexshuparski no i miss counted lol
Would’ve been too expensive....... like this house is already a bargain. 😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒
I love Tom, but I'd be using my PLS laser for some of these maneuvers. It has a very thin line & works in one or multiple directions at the same time. It's like one of my favorite tools.
AND...once I figure where I'm gonna place my shims, I use a little liquid nails behind the jamb & a small dab between the shims so they are locked in PERMANENTLY. Especially useful when installing the shims so they don't drop out as your adjusting them. Anyone ever have that problem?? Probably not!! This way if the shims decide to move a hair or split over the years, the glue will hold them from ever falling or slipping around.
All that extra work over a normal house...just to make it look terrible. I think Tommy agrees. I'm baffled at the fact that there is actually a market for tiles that look like concrete - for that great jail cell look you always wanted in your kitchen!
Tiles like that work well in modern or MCM houses. A lot of empashis goes on the small details and simplicity, or making things not stand out. My house is an old Modern house and I wish I would have gone with large format concrete look tiles versus the faint grey wood look tiles I used. In most other traditional designs, they dont fit.
And now we've seen the most complicated way to install a prehung. How about instead 1 establish left too right center. 2 plumb hinge side opening with shims. 3 throw it in the hole with door still hanging 4 nail hinge side off where you want it. 5 the door itself tells you the rest of the story to complete installation.
You forgot #6 Keep your opinion to yourself, no one cares.
@@justinl.3587 I love posts that could be responses to themselves.
Open house NYC
This is definitely the ugliest house they have done to date
Love this show but the older seasons were much better.
Drilling a well on TOH ... DEEP THROAT....
Mark the tile guy is dead unfortunately. Died a few years ago.
Tile is the worst i would rather have carpet!!!
When tiles are that large you never use a mastic, you always need to use a mortar mix. The mastic they are using will take weeks to dry.
Mastic doesn't dry, it sets. Mix it up, seal it in a container and it will still set.
@@DiscoFang No, mastic dries. It can also become wet and soft again. Its the only reason it can be sold pre-mixed! Thinset and mortar begin chemical reactions when water is added, which causes them to permanently set up.
Attack on Titan reference, eh
"what we do is is"
The fireplace is hardly the "cutting edge " of modern design if it was designed in the 60s! That is almost 60 years old- not saying that this old design doesn't fit in the house , but it is hardly really new and modern anymore.
Modern design is a style from the 60's. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mid-century_modern
@@mully006I realise that it is a set style called "modern-they usually on here are calling it "mid-century modern" which makes sense. I don't think that there can be a cutting edge to it still. You couldn't talk about "cutting edge" Federal, unless you meant that it was cutting edge 200 years ago. I suppose that could be what he means, but it didn't come across that way to me. By the way do you know what more modern styles are around now? I mean modern as in new, not "Modern" as in "Mid-century Modern".
That fireplace is going to break of they put much heat through it..
It seems like all their work is for high income workers.Why can't they help real people,like low income seniors.These are the people that everyone forgets.
What do you mean "help"? This is a show done for profit. The homeowners are paying for the work.
@@DiscoFang -I'd like to see a show that lets everyday people see ideas that they can afford.
@@markmorris3579 then watch another show. There’s plenty of vids on TH-cam for that. If TOH did what you suggest, nobody would watch because it’s been done 199k times before. You’re not the target demographic, move on.
Sloppy tile work
I always laugh when I see a house like this where nothing is traditional. You just know the next skinny jean wearing owner will rip it all out and throw it away.
Ladies & Gents, 21:00 - 21:09 is not how you accurately measure 27¾. I wished the young guy would've double checked the old guy on camera and tell him, no it's not, "right there." That could've easily been ⅛ to ¼ out. SMH.
dont buy into Modern door trim plz let that fad die.
The personalities of these hosts is like white bread with a soda cracker filling.
Now I know why everybody misses Roger, in comparison he is a sloppy joe.
Man,I missSteve Thomas🤡😂who here believes Kevin was watching toh episodes religiously 🤡🤓😅🤣🤠🤔🍌🍌🍌🤙
guys its time to leave the 1970s and get a laser level to start....what a waste of time. This is clear evidence of someone who has become great in old ways of doing things and refuses to change despite many advantages. Just like my old man. Also, if the floor is not 2-3mm flat within every 10 ft then floor prep is required. If its close to that range and the odd hump can be knocked down you should still use 1 clip per foot to allow for bowing in the tile and small variance in the substrate. I guarantee that if the floor is not in that ballpark, using 2 clips per 4ft will definitely have lippage. These fellas have a lot to change to be able to call themselves "tile setters" in today's world. Its also guys like this that think their 2 ft Stabila level is going to get the counter top perfect end to end and why backsplash's have to be cheated in one way or another 99% of the time. I think they should rename the show "these old techniques".
🥱
Literally nobody pre drills door jambs before fastening them and if they do they're not making any money.
This ultra-rectilinear crap is ridiculous. Talk about waste of energy in heat treating useless volumes of air and outdoors under driveway, and paving with oversized materiél which is extremely picayune in being straight, but don’t like needed percolation gaps to accumulate rain water and transport it to cisterns (dry wells)
These shows did this house is a waste.
Whole lot of work just to install a door..