My thoughts. 1. My Blogsite: "Rhodesia: Ruminations on a Former Colonial Settler State" adeyinkamakinde.blogspot.com/2020/10/rhodesia-ruminations-on-former-colonial.html 2. The TH-cam Community section of my Channel: th-cam.com/users/postUgxDOR5Se6QTVrXodfl4AaABCQ NB I had hoped to paste the whole of my thoughts as a comment, but it TH-cam have a word limit. They cover the content of the newsreel; Rhodesia as a colonial settler project; the question of insurgency including False Flag Operations, Black Propaganda and Psychological Warfare; positing the Rhodesian war as a lost cause; and examining Old Rhodesian attitudes in the context of contemporary racial warfare and identity politics. - Adeyinka Makinde.
Interesting the level of underlying bias in a statement like 'former settler state'. A degree of Left Wing venom there, not so? These Rhodesians were locals, some with origins going back many generations. So using the pejorative term 'settler' fails to acknowledge that they too belonged to the land.
On the contrary "Warty" I use the word "former settler state" not as a polemic or as a pejorative, but as a completely objective definition of the history of the country, its social policies and its politics. Nothing to do with what you term "Left Wing venom". Any student of history would for instance ascertain that Ireland became a "settler state" involving English and Scottish Protestant settlers This was also true of the United States, and the same can be said of the entity formerly known as Rhodesia.
@@warty3620 I wrote the following in one of my two essay contributions to the Cambridge Companion to Boxing (page 111): "The narrated history of Africa tends to characterize Europeans as a “settler” community lacking the credentials of an indigenous people. Yet, if the designation of Marcel Cerdan , a “Pied Noir” born in French Algeria, as an “African” fighter has a ring of tenuousness surrounding it, such an appellation in the case of white South Africans does not seem as forced. The “white tribe” of voetrekker Afrikaners arguably have such a claim ..." Over the course of time the descendants of the settlers do become indegenes, but reference to the original basis of the state's formation or development is always crucial.
@@adeyinkamakinde6164 Two fascinating responses touching on an area (surrounding the use of the term ‘settler’) and one deserving further study. I am glad you, yourself, had no ill-intent in picking up the terminology. If I can focus on this usage from a largely ‘lay’ perspective. Context is crucial, and you may or may not be aware that ‘settler’ is at the heart of an on-going debate in South Africa; despite the unfulfilled expectations surrounding ‘rainbow nation’ (and one could write a thesis on this alone). But context. Comparing the unionists in Ireland with, say, Afrikaners in South Africa is rather like comparing apples with oranges. With regard to the former, one can point to immigration going back to the time of William the Conqueror and continued apace at the time of Henry VIII. Is it possible that a Catholic Dubliner (for example) might feel a greater affinity with ‘the land’ because his/her loyalties are undivided; whilst a Unionist finds just a little corner of his/her heart orientated to that sense of security offered by the idea of ‘union’ with England? Might the term ‘settler’ be seen as problematic there, even appropriate in this case. The Afrikaner has no corner of his heart yeaning for anything other than the land he or she stands on. What about this ‘pied noir’, Marcel Cerdan, whose motherland regarded Algeria and her other ‘colonies’ as provinces of France, not colonies. The great irony here is that the French revolutionaries rejected the abolition of slavery out of hand, when Whig abolitionists went over there canvassing support. The question is how can you espouse Liberté, égalité, fraternité in France, and yet behave otherwise in Algeria unless you have a ‘settler’ mentality. Then there are the historic associations with the use of the word ‘African’, and one that doesn’t sit well when an Afrikaner attempts to call himself an African, or an ex (white) Algerian calls himself an ‘African fighter’. The association is all wrong. Then there is Rhodesia, a country that had been self-governing since 1923 (unlike Zambia and Malawi, part of the original federation of Northern and Southern Rhodesia, and Nyasaland). By the time of UDI (1965) there was little harking back to ‘the motherland’, and not even a scintilla of it post 1965. For me, a second-generation Rhodesian, both heart and soul were embedded in the country: memories; smells of January rains on parched soil, sticky-sweet smells of rotting carcasses, the sometimes overwhelming waves of sweat and wood smoke in an overcrowded African bus; sounds of insects, birds, animals; sounds of Shona and Ndebele and Shangaan. For me, and many others like me, the word ‘settler’ has little meaning, because it doesn’t fit the context, particularly when separation was imposed from without, by prevailing ideology amongst the intellectual elites in London and elsewhere. I’d argue that whether one is aware of it or not, the noun ‘settler’ is politically charged.
Selous Scouts were phenomenal soldiers. They sacrificed so much for their country. Their wives and families suffered too, never knowing what tomorrow would bring. As in all wars the journey was difficult. I am proud to be a Rhodesian.
@@brianmuvuti2102 And you live in a Western country, built and run by others, while singing the praises of a homeland you are so glad to be rid of, and will never return to because it's a bankrupt, Marxist racist African ethnostate. Enjoying your PoliSci program at a Western College/University, bought and paid for by people you hate?
I went to US Army Ranger School over 30 years ago. I knew about the Selous Scouts as I did all of the other elite schools and forces in the world because as a professional soldier you study this stuff. While the schools can't really be compared (apples and oranges) I feel a kinship with my long lost Rhodesian brothers-in-arms as I watch this video and consider all the nastiness we went through -- Jungles, Mountains, Swamps, Deserts -- to earn those coveted scraps of cloth to wear on our uniforms. I still wear mine proudly. I imagine the former Selous Scouts who now live in exile from their homeland feel the exact same way. Sad to see what has become of the beautiful African land that was once called Rhodesia. #respect
Ranger Reviewer they were excellent but served an evil state. If they shared just a little more things would never have been bad. But the whites wanted it all and in the end lost their racist state. RACISM KILLED RHODESIA
@@MegaJohny56 So... comparing the then and now, how are things looking in Zimbabwe now? Not so pretty! Zimbabwe could never come close to Rhodesia, ever!
@@MegaJohny56 Likewise, racism is killing South Africa today. South Africa had a golden opportunity to create a state in which the races could live without apartheid. Instead in hate and spite, the present rulers have created laws which prejudice against minority races in the country. They have destroyed the economy of South Africa and the livelihoods of all the races who dwell there.
Great video, I new a fella in Vancouver B.C, Trevor Beasley he was a Selous Scout, told me a few interesting stories. These young men were incredibly brave, nothing like regular soldiering. Trevor was a really nice Chap, he built a sailboat in Vancouver in 80's and I was fortunate to be able to work on it. We need more young men like these fellas today, sadly they're being Villafied for even being boys or men. A Kiwi living in Canada.🇳🇿🇨🇦
As a damn near 50 year old American, an over 30 yr military dude, and a history major to boot, I have become acquainted with this fascinating piece military history over the last few months. The former country of Rhodesia is not mentioned at all to us in any of our history lessons. Can't wait to take a deep dive into this subject and learn more about the hard-ass dudes who fought for independence in our modern times.
fought to be dependent on the West and the East for hand out survival and then orchestrated genocide on their own people. That is the factual history you need to enlighten that brain of yours with.
I was born in Rhodesia in '73. Every single adult male of appropriate age was in the Rhodesian army. Myself and my brother were taught to use various guns as a very early age (handgun at age 4). As children (age 5 and 6 onwards), our job was to shoot and kill the baboons that tried to steal the veggies and fruit, then tie them to the fence to deter the other baboons. It was target practice. My brother and I walked around with gun ALL the time in the bush. By the time we were 10 years old, we knew how to survive in the bush, hunt, fish, skin, manage wounds, cook and use a firearm correctly. We were never children.
Fought to save the Country from what we knew would become its demise if the likes of Mugabe was given power, and we were proved right. Believe what you will buy history records the facts. You may also wish to explain why over 70% of the regular Rhodesian army, including Selous Scouts, were black, looking to keep the communist supported muppets out of Rhodesia.@@ayodejiolowokere1076
Portugueses soldiers come to help Rhodesia. Most of them veterans of ultramarine Portuguese war in Angola. Also a treat was established between South Africa, Portugal and Rhodesia to fight the communists, named ALCORA. Respect for all who fight against communists.
I am a Rhodesian. I never went to Angola but I have happy memories of going on holiday to Mozambique, which was of course also Portuguese until 1975. Mozambique was a very popular destination for Rhodesians. The city of Beira was particularly popular but there were lots of other fascinating places like Paradise Island and the capital, Lourenco Marques, one of the finest cities in Africa. Indeed, LM was sometimes called the "Pearl of the Indian Ocean."
The Selous Scouts--like all Rhodesian troopers--were heroes and deserve to be remembered as such. They stood against the evil communists and Mugabe murderers when no one else would
@@carleanahauffe6228 Oh no! Colonialism! Whatever shall we do with all this new medicine, technology, schools, infrastructure, jobs, healthcare, roads, train tracks, TV, radio, cars, connection to the outside world, and every other modern creation? Oh if only we could have continued living as we have been for the last 5000 years we would have become an unstoppable force on the world stage. Damn that colonialism. By the way... can I have some more UNICEF aid please? Our 'duly elected' president needs another Mercedes.
@@TheCourtJester1956 If you go and look at what really happens with unicef aid and bringing tech to low tech countries.. Foreign or unicef aid are just land grabs, and all of this "tech" and schools and hositals you speak of are unaccessible to the public at large. Duly elected presidents? puppets planted by the colonialists to keep things fucked up for the people of the land... Mugabe fought for his people, then the UK along with their allies sanctioned the living shit out of the country... this is why it is a basket case. so go and learns about what you speak of before making ignorant statements that are right out of the racist/superiority complex white blokes handbook. cheers.
@@dreambaked1024 mugabe did anything but fight for his own people, anyone protesting his dictatorship were brutalised and shot, he stole every last cent from black people and millions now starve, what are u talking about
Rhodesia was not perfect. But people talking about racial segregation don't remember that it was a freshly abandoned norm back then. So by now, Rhodesia would be a normal country without racial segregation. But it was turned to Zimbabwe, one of the poorest places in the world. Anyone who thinks Zimbabwe is better than Rhodesia was, is delusional. Anyone who thinks Zimbabwe is better than what Rhodesia would have probably become by now, is insane.
Some of Zimbabwe's cities were actually cleaner and tidier than what we thought they would even till this day. Few cars means less noise and ruckus. Quite peaceful But still, high inflation in Occupied Rhodesia just doesn't make the country a whole lot better. Atleast the old days before Zimbabwe, there were no cash that cost like what? Trillions of dollar notes I see poor bastards that though Zimbabwe was good still. Oh I pity their minds alright
There is simply no comparison between the qualities and successes of Rhodesia and its political successor, Zimbabwe. From 1949 I lived successively in the Nyasaland Protectorate, the Federation of Rhodesia & Nyasaland, the Republic of Malawi, and the Republic of Rhodesia, all the years of my early life until I was 25. Bear in mind that the BSA Company Pioneer Column rode into Mashonaland, only 250 men strong, and founded Fort Salisbury in 1890. By 1923 a modern state had been created and Southern Rhodesia, as it was then, was self governing! Only thirty three years it took, from a wilderness of bush and savagery to a modern state! What has Zimbabwe achieved? Mugabe inherited everything that is there today. He even thanked Prime Minister Ian Smith for giving him ‘The Jewel of Africa.’ And so it was! Rhodesia was the breadbasket of sub Saharan Africa until Mugabe made it, with his STUPID racist economic policies, the basket case of Africa! Now I fear South Africa will go the same way. The killing of whites has already begun. When Rhodesia decimalised the Rhodesian Pound (which was on parity with the Pound Sterling), to the Rhodesian dollar in 1970, there were two dollars to the pound, but the country’s economy rapidly strengthened and escalated such that the Rhodesian Dollar was soon on par with the British pound. In my wallet I carry an eternal memento of the disaster that is Zimbabwe. It is a (genuine!) Zimbabwean Dollar note of denomination $50 TRILLION ! Worthless! That is $50 000 000 000 000!(There was a higher denomination note of $100 TRILLION issued. That is $100 MILLION MILLION!) This says everything about Zimbabwe’s economy and Mugabe’s inability to run a modern state. UDI, (the Rhodesian Unilateral Declaration of Independence) was Initially the making, rather than the downfall, of Rhodesia. As a result of world sanctions being imposed by all but South Africa and Portugal, Rhodesia was forced, in order to survive, to greatly increase her industrial and economic output, and in this she was very successful, even to manufacturing her own vehicles, locomotives, weapons, and the countless other essential products and items of a modern, first world state. The Rhodesian period resulted in the creation of the best educated African people on the continent. I believe a figure of 95% literacy has been quoted. Mugabe liked to take the credit for this, whilst simultaneously giving his wife a suspicious Doctorate at the University of Zimbabwe! There was employment for all that wished to work. My memories of Salisbury in the 60s & 70s are of a happy, well dressed, working populace with plenty of money in their pockets. In that same period there was a lot of black African support for Ian Smith’s government. In latter years, after majority rule was achieved, and when Mugabe’s self destructive policies began to bite, most black Zimbabweans would say : “What did we fight for? It was better under Smith!” Contributor Oleary has said that Rhodesia collapsed economically. This is nonsense. Nothing could be further from the truth. He is confusing Rhodesia with Zimbabwe! The Smith government was NEVER considered inept, especially by its enemies. It is certainly true that Rhodesia could not survive indefinitely. Not against the whole world. At the end of the day, Rhodesia was betrayed. She was brought down by those who should have been her friends. Britain of course, with whom Rhodesia had always bravely stood, side by side, and finally South Africa, the unkindest cut of all, who betrayed Rhodesia in order to buy a few more years with her truly racial policies, never espoused by Rhodesia. Well, South Africa, now YOUR time has come! Now I weep for YOU! Rhodesia was only the second country in 189 years to unilaterally declare independence from Imperial Britain, and for much the same reasons. The first was the United States of America in 1776. She has been rather more successful! Much criticism has been heaped on Rhodesia’s choice of the music of Beethoven’s Symphony No.9, ‘Ode to Joy’ as her republican national anthem. Those that criticise have missed the whole point of this very deliberate choice, just as they missed the significance of the choice of November 11th as the date for the Unilateral Declaration of Independence. In the first place, Rhodesia is remembered, by thinking people, every time the 9th is played. And November 11th, Armistice Day, was chosen as a similar reminder, that Rhodesia was honest and loyal to Britain to the very bitter end. Every time Armistice Day comes round, and every time Beethoven’s 9th is played, Rhodesia is remembered around the world. As Rhodesia’s Prime Minister declared on November 11th 1965, “We have struck a blow for the preservation of Justice, Civilisation, and Christianity, and in the spirit of this belief, we have this day assumed our sovereign independence!” God bless you, Rhodesia! Rest in Peace. God bless all Rhodesians and Zimbabweans, wherever you may now reside
The Rhodesians were some of the most badass people to ever exist. They fought for a good cause. I love reading about their history and I believe it’s inspirational.
My old chemistry teacher looked like an Angel - blonde hair and blue eyes, and soft voice. He was in selous scouts. When on leave he would go to pub to look for a fight. He had war stories for us on occasion. Obviously left an impression on me more than the chemistry lessons
Oh, that sounds so familiar. The Selous Scout I knew did exactly the same . Quiet as a lamb , but God forbid ,after a few in the pub , ANYONE looked at him sideways ! I cannot even begin to imagine the stress of bush fighting these guys had to endure . And before any politically correct holier than thou do-gooder even thinks of playing the race card ...the African , black and white in this unit fought hard together . I shall probably be jumped on for this posting . Ah well . Anyone read " Hold my Hand , I'm Dying": by John Gordon Davies? Please do .
@@fionahiggins6682 My brother was one of them..... Very quiet and gentle. But heaven help you if you picked on him ( he was short) or bullied someone, he could and would drop you immediately. He passed now. But I remember clearly what a true gentleman and soldier he was :)....
@@richardwangombe5657 I think it's more about post traumatic stress disorder than being an idle loser. You can't train men for war and then throw them into the worst of it and expect them to come out the way they went in.
@@Tourist1967 how the fuck do you expect them to win when the entire world has been pitted against them and they weren't given a chance to form a proper country?
@@Tourist1967 They lost politically sure, but we're talking about the Scouts here, they probably didn't lose a single combat engagement throughout the entire war. Some battles they killed literally 1000 terrorists and had none killed on their side. Rhodesia lost politically, the military however was completely successful
i had the great honor of training and receiving my black belt from sensi barry stranack who served with the scouts .we were lucky enough to train with him in bournemouth in england what an awsome human being he is. one of the toughest men iv ever met yet so quiet and humble considering what he did in life.total respect.
I first heard of the Selous Scouts at a Church by and ex Selous Scout, never heard of them before that. I did a bit of research found an out of print book: Pamwe Chete The Legend of the Selous Scouts written by the founder Lt Col Reid Daly. What an amazing book. What the Selous Scouts did was truly incredible. They did Rhodesia proud. What the above video doesn't tell is what the primary role of what they did, which is Counter Insurgency. Imagine getting a hard core ISIS member to turn and fight against his former comrades. I believe if the Selous Scouts were around today, they would easily be one of the top SF units in the world and give many of our Tier one SF units a good run for their money.
@@makara80Sorry I should have explained a bit better. I had to get it printed in the UK as it was out of print and then mailed to Australia. Cost me over $200, but it was worth every dollar spent.
They training and selection was matched to non plus they members were called to South Africa at the end of 1980 wen they had disbanded to train and fight for South Africa in they bush war / border in Namibia . They had a fearsome reputation
They actually named after frederick COURTENEY selous, who in actual fact is my great great grandfather, if you dont believe me Google COURTENEY boot factory
@@dreambaked1024 not true, Rhodesia was nothing like south africa,, now civilians are starving and are shot without reason in any protest against government, before all this education for all races was good, it was safe, Rhodesia was even called the breadbasket of africa
@@zulufighter Rhodesia wasn't for black. If it was like you claim someone like Mugabe would have never came because Rhodesia was good like you say. Rhodesia was horrible for the native
My uncle was shot 3 times whilst he was there and survived, returned back to UK & lived a good long life, not bad as he started down the mines in northern england as a young boy.
@@RenzoM2811 You're joking right? The Rhodesians had declared their independence and were alone defending against communist insurgency. To claim otherwise is just ignorance, virtue signalling and buying into the false narrative.
Before the start of selection, LtCol Reid-Daly addressed us all and said that anyone who had a problem with operating with Africans should leave there and then.
That beginning bit reminded me of a story my grandfather told me of when he was in the war. He was going to be driving the truck but one of his guys insisted he drives and that night they were attacked and he was killed in an ambush. They all jumped out the back and returned fire with the cowards fleeing soon after the. The managed to track them and eventually ambushed the ambushers killing or capturing all of them.
When I was young in the eighties I worked with a guy who was a son of the companie's founder. He had been in the American Army and occasionally he wore a Tshirt with a logo of a soldier and the text "Be a man among men Rhodesian Army."
The communists were called "nationalists" because they wanted the betterment of the Rhodesia nation, like for example not being a vassal of the Pentagon. They exhalted their national interests, many think they were the good guys because of that.
The same way some Ancient Greek colonies were hits and others were misses , some British colonies succeeded and others failed too. In hind sight Rhodesia and it’s big brother to the south were built on very unstable sand from the beginning, so in my view no point shedding a tear for them now. If it was up to me , I’d bring them all to Australia. They’re good people who just picked the wrong boat.
The remnants of the Scouts guard portions of the US Embassy's outer wall in Afghanistan. I hear that when you shake their hands it like shaking hands with an iron ham--hard and huge. They share this duty with former Gurkhas. Both so tough that there are few Islamics willing to tangle.
1:35 Certainly NOT "a 40' drop" from that rope, unless the soldier is 10' tall. Judging by the guy coming down the rope to the ground, it "might" be 20'.
If you've never done it, it's much easier going on top of the rope than going under it where gravity causes even more issues. A little downward pressure from the ankle straddling the rope takes the pressure off elsewhere, otherwise there would be a lot more friction to overcome. @@Abdulhakeembennette
It's reported that there existed a fierce rivalry between the SAS and the Rhodesian Light Infantry. Its said the RLI were of the position that they were by far a better, efficient and hard hitting killing machine than the SAS and they accounted for more kills and that the SAS was not overly special or superior to them. Did this hold water? Some reporters said the combination of the Selous Scouts and the RLI shamed the SAS for this type of war, but its also Said the SAS were more professional than the Selous Scouts. What's your opinion about this?
i heard the selous scouts had a test. where they were sent into the bush with a rifle one bullet some fishing line and a fishing hook. the smart ones would go to the river use the the fishing line and hook and the rifle barrel as a rod.
Sorry if this seems a daft question, but what was with the whole short shorts wearing thing in the Selous Scouts? I’ve never understood why they did that. I assume there had to be some of kind of sensible tactical/operational reason for it, but I’ve just never seen any other special forces anywhere in the world do something similar....
The British tradition influenced that, I am sure. They fought in North Africa in shorts (as did the Aussies). As an American, we always wear ridiculously too much whenever we go to fight. From winter weight cammies to 90 Lbs rucksacks. It's the American way, I guess! But shorts are hardcore dangerous, man. I do think I'd prefer long pants in the bush. Bugs, thorns, and infections will mess you up in the field.
If you read a hunters wanderings in Africa by Fredrick Selous he talks abbot only wearing a shirt and hat while hunting elephant so that the thorns didn't make a noise plus in the 70s we all just wore shorts in NZ while pig hunting the things you do while young and fit . But i think that there was a lot of make do in Rhodesia as well at that time and it worked .
They actually dropped the shorts fairly early in the war, for camouflage trousers. While the shorts had many practical advantages, their bare legs made them too visible.
Hi. No, people did not need to be in the Selous Scouts before they could apply to join the SAS. Moreover, one difference between the units was that the Selous Scouts were multi-racial.
SAS was a white only unit trained in a typical British Army special ops fashion. Selous Scouts was a multi-racial pseudo ops unit a copy of the Portuguese Flechas that used ex-guerrilas turned friend to spread confusion terror and all types of psycological warfare against the enemy. Big diference.
Their training reminds me of the Australian military, lots of bushcraft and survival training as if invaded it would become a guerrilla war very quickly.
They were fighting against communist backed terrorists who wanted to take control of rhodesia, they did eventually take control and now rhodesia/zimbabwe is a starving, poor country where civilians are shot and so on, these were great soldiers who faught for all of the people of rhodesia
@Patrick Kazan And chinese communists do, I suppose? What was fascistic about defending their home from an invading ideology that history has shown to be nothing but detrimental?
Since the fall of Ian Smith's government and the takeover by Mugabe, Zimbabwe has gone straight down. From the second wealthiest country in Africa to the poorest that has lost over half of its population to emigration. It is the poor blacks who most revolted against the Rhodesians and are the same ones Mugabe has decimated and driven out.
Seems like some good troops. U.S. Army vet here. I question why wasn't there more of an effort made at a bicameral government? Why was it an all or nothing? From my reading, both sides were against power-sharing. I believe that the country might have been better off, if both sides could've reached a better agreement. Mugabe may not have ever done the things which he was alleged to have done.
My thoughts.
1. My Blogsite:
"Rhodesia: Ruminations on a Former Colonial Settler State"
adeyinkamakinde.blogspot.com/2020/10/rhodesia-ruminations-on-former-colonial.html
2. The TH-cam Community section of my Channel:
th-cam.com/users/postUgxDOR5Se6QTVrXodfl4AaABCQ
NB
I had hoped to paste the whole of my thoughts as a comment, but it TH-cam have a word limit. They cover the content of the newsreel; Rhodesia as a colonial settler project; the question of insurgency including False Flag Operations, Black Propaganda and Psychological Warfare; positing the Rhodesian war as a lost cause; and examining Old Rhodesian attitudes in the context of contemporary racial warfare and identity politics.
- Adeyinka Makinde.
Hi. Thanks for uploading so much interesting material on Rhodesia.
Interesting the level of underlying bias in a statement like 'former settler state'. A degree of Left Wing venom there, not so? These Rhodesians were locals, some with origins going back many generations. So using the pejorative term 'settler' fails to acknowledge that they too belonged to the land.
On the contrary "Warty" I use the word "former settler state" not as a polemic or as a pejorative, but as a completely objective definition of the history of the country, its social policies and its politics.
Nothing to do with what you term "Left Wing venom".
Any student of history would for instance ascertain that Ireland became a "settler state" involving English and Scottish Protestant settlers This was also true of the United States, and the same can be said of the entity formerly known as Rhodesia.
@@warty3620 I wrote the following in one of my two essay contributions to the Cambridge Companion to Boxing (page 111):
"The narrated history of Africa tends to characterize Europeans as a
“settler” community lacking the credentials of an indigenous people. Yet, if the designation of Marcel Cerdan , a “Pied Noir” born in French Algeria, as an “African” fighter has a ring of tenuousness surrounding it, such an appellation in the case of white South Africans does not seem as forced.
The “white tribe” of voetrekker Afrikaners arguably have such a claim ..."
Over the course of time the descendants of the settlers do become indegenes, but reference to the original basis of the state's formation or development is always crucial.
@@adeyinkamakinde6164 Two fascinating responses touching on an area (surrounding the use of the term ‘settler’) and one deserving further study. I am glad you, yourself, had no ill-intent in picking up the terminology.
If I can focus on this usage from a largely ‘lay’ perspective.
Context is crucial, and you may or may not be aware that ‘settler’ is at the heart of an on-going debate in South Africa; despite the unfulfilled expectations surrounding ‘rainbow nation’ (and one could write a thesis on this alone).
But context. Comparing the unionists in Ireland with, say, Afrikaners in South Africa is rather like comparing apples with oranges. With regard to the former, one can point to immigration going back to the time of William the Conqueror and continued apace at the time of Henry VIII. Is it possible that a Catholic Dubliner (for example) might feel a greater affinity with ‘the land’ because his/her loyalties are undivided; whilst a Unionist finds just a little corner of his/her heart orientated to that sense of security offered by the idea of ‘union’ with England? Might the term ‘settler’ be seen as problematic there, even appropriate in this case. The Afrikaner has no corner of his heart yeaning for anything other than the land he or she stands on.
What about this ‘pied noir’, Marcel Cerdan, whose motherland regarded Algeria and her other ‘colonies’ as provinces of France, not colonies. The great irony here is that the French revolutionaries rejected the abolition of slavery out of hand, when Whig abolitionists went over there canvassing support. The question is how can you espouse Liberté, égalité, fraternité in France, and yet behave otherwise in Algeria unless you have a ‘settler’ mentality.
Then there are the historic associations with the use of the word ‘African’, and one that doesn’t sit well when an Afrikaner attempts to call himself an African, or an ex (white) Algerian calls himself an ‘African fighter’. The association is all wrong.
Then there is Rhodesia, a country that had been self-governing since 1923 (unlike Zambia and Malawi, part of the original federation of Northern and Southern Rhodesia, and Nyasaland). By the time of UDI (1965) there was little harking back to ‘the motherland’, and not even a scintilla of it post 1965.
For me, a second-generation Rhodesian, both heart and soul were embedded in the country: memories; smells of January rains on parched soil, sticky-sweet smells of rotting carcasses, the sometimes overwhelming waves of sweat and wood smoke in an overcrowded African bus; sounds of insects, birds, animals; sounds of Shona and Ndebele and Shangaan.
For me, and many others like me, the word ‘settler’ has little meaning, because it doesn’t fit the context, particularly when separation was imposed from without, by prevailing ideology amongst the intellectual elites in London and elsewhere.
I’d argue that whether one is aware of it or not, the noun ‘settler’ is politically charged.
Selous Scouts were phenomenal soldiers. They sacrificed so much for their country. Their wives and families suffered too, never knowing what tomorrow would bring. As in all wars the journey was difficult. I am proud to be a Rhodesian.
I hope you'll get Rhodesia back one day.
Great Forevermore!
Just win their Hearts and Minds this time! Use Edmunds Ballads!
Selous Scouts and Rhodesia are dead and buried for good reason. Never to return till the end of mankind.
@@brianmuvuti2102 And you live in a Western country, built and run by others, while singing the praises of a homeland you are so glad to be rid of, and will never return to because it's a bankrupt, Marxist racist African ethnostate.
Enjoying your PoliSci program at a Western College/University, bought and paid for by people you hate?
You may think youre hard. But you'll never be as hard as long range scouts wearing short shorts in the African bush hard
I prefer COOL!
Cool to the Core!
They were the inspiration for Lee Duffy's shorts obsession
Er yea, you dont really want to be hard in short shorts lol! Theres a time and place haha🤣
@@randyrhodes7137 The pic of him on the car? Looks like he rolled them up for an extra short short look!
I went to US Army Ranger School over 30 years ago. I knew about the Selous Scouts as I did all of the other elite schools and forces in the world because as a professional soldier you study this stuff. While the schools can't really be compared (apples and oranges) I feel a kinship with my long lost Rhodesian brothers-in-arms as I watch this video and consider all the nastiness we went through -- Jungles, Mountains, Swamps, Deserts -- to earn those coveted scraps of cloth to wear on our uniforms. I still wear mine proudly. I imagine the former Selous Scouts who now live in exile from their homeland feel the exact same way. Sad to see what has become of the beautiful African land that was once called Rhodesia. #respect
Ranger Reviewer they were excellent but served an evil state. If they shared just a little more things would never have been bad. But the whites wanted it all and in the end lost their racist state. RACISM KILLED RHODESIA
@@MegaJohny56 So... comparing the then and now, how are things looking in Zimbabwe now? Not so pretty! Zimbabwe could never come close to Rhodesia, ever!
@@MegaJohny56 Likewise, racism is killing South Africa today. South Africa had a golden opportunity to create a state in which the races could live without apartheid. Instead in hate and spite, the present rulers have created laws which prejudice against minority races in the country. They have destroyed the economy of South Africa and the livelihoods of all the races who dwell there.
class 08-81
@@joesmith-tg3co 12-90
Great video,
I new a fella in Vancouver B.C, Trevor Beasley he was a Selous Scout, told me a few interesting stories.
These young men were incredibly brave, nothing like regular soldiering.
Trevor was a really nice Chap, he built a sailboat in Vancouver in 80's and I was fortunate to be able to work on it.
We need more young men like these fellas today, sadly they're being Villafied for even being boys or men.
A Kiwi living in Canada.🇳🇿🇨🇦
I think it is Bazeley. I was at junior and high school with Trev. Took his sister out for a few months. Trev lives on a boat somewhere in Calif.
As a damn near 50 year old American, an over 30 yr military dude, and a history major to boot, I have become acquainted with this fascinating piece military history over the last few months. The former country of Rhodesia is not mentioned at all to us in any of our history lessons. Can't wait to take a deep dive into this subject and learn more about the hard-ass dudes who fought for independence in our modern times.
Fought for the independence to lord over the majority of the indigenous population of their country against their will.
fought to be dependent on the West and the East for hand out survival and then orchestrated genocide on their own people. That is the factual history you need to enlighten that brain of yours with.
I leaned recently about it too through some Terminal list books. Fascinating stuff
I was born in Rhodesia in '73. Every single adult male of appropriate age was in the Rhodesian army. Myself and my brother were taught to use various guns as a very early age (handgun at age 4). As children (age 5 and 6 onwards), our job was to shoot and kill the baboons that tried to steal the veggies and fruit, then tie them to the fence to deter the other baboons. It was target practice. My brother and I walked around with gun ALL the time in the bush. By the time we were 10 years old, we knew how to survive in the bush, hunt, fish, skin, manage wounds, cook and use a firearm correctly. We were never children.
Fought to save the Country from what we knew would become its demise if the likes of Mugabe was given power, and we were proved right. Believe what you will buy history records the facts. You may also wish to explain why over 70% of the regular Rhodesian army, including Selous Scouts, were black, looking to keep the communist supported muppets out of Rhodesia.@@ayodejiolowokere1076
This is a cautionary tale for sure. Never say never. Never disarm.
Yep, a tried and true lesson.
Portugueses soldiers come to help Rhodesia. Most of them veterans of ultramarine Portuguese war in Angola.
Also a treat was established between South Africa, Portugal and Rhodesia to fight the communists, named ALCORA.
Respect for all who fight against communists.
I am a Rhodesian. I never went to Angola but I have happy memories of going on holiday to Mozambique, which was of course also Portuguese until 1975. Mozambique was a very popular destination for Rhodesians. The city of Beira was particularly popular but there were lots of other fascinating places like Paradise Island and the capital, Lourenco Marques, one of the finest cities in Africa. Indeed, LM was sometimes called the "Pearl of the Indian Ocean."
Sadly, it was the communists who wanted liberty and independence, as time did tell.
One of the most interesting books I have ever read is "Selous Scouts: Top Secret War" by Ron Reid Daly. Incredible adventures.
I'll have to read it
I can't find a copy anywhere, do you have any recommendation of how to get it?
@@BitPeko Wow - I see second hand copies are very pricey. Sorry, but I have no idea how you would get one at a decent price.
You have to look on sites like bidorbuy. There’s not a lot of copies overseas.
Same with Ron Reid Daly’s other book on survival.
Try Kindle
The Selous Scouts--like all Rhodesian troopers--were heroes and deserve to be remembered as such. They stood against the evil communists and Mugabe murderers when no one else would
Was Mr Mugabe fighting in UK or fighting for his country which the British invaded And Colonised???
@@carleanahauffe6228 Oh no! Colonialism! Whatever shall we do with all this new medicine, technology, schools, infrastructure, jobs, healthcare, roads, train tracks, TV, radio, cars, connection to the outside world, and every other modern creation? Oh if only we could have continued living as we have been for the last 5000 years we would have become an unstoppable force on the world stage. Damn that colonialism. By the way... can I have some more UNICEF aid please? Our 'duly elected' president needs another Mercedes.
@@TheCourtJester1956 If you go and look at what really happens with unicef aid and bringing tech to low tech countries.. Foreign or unicef aid are just land grabs, and all of this "tech" and schools and hositals you speak of are unaccessible to the public at large. Duly elected presidents? puppets planted by the colonialists to keep things fucked up for the people of the land... Mugabe fought for his people, then the UK along with their allies sanctioned the living shit out of the country... this is why it is a basket case. so go and learns about what you speak of before making ignorant statements that are right out of the racist/superiority complex white blokes handbook. cheers.
@@dreambaked1024 mugabe did anything but fight for his own people, anyone protesting his dictatorship were brutalised and shot, he stole every last cent from black people and millions now starve, what are u talking about
No they were not heroes.
men among men. truly one of the greatest fighting forces in history
Rhodesia was not perfect. But people talking about racial segregation don't remember that it was a freshly abandoned norm back then. So by now, Rhodesia would be a normal country without racial segregation.
But it was turned to Zimbabwe, one of the poorest places in the world.
Anyone who thinks Zimbabwe is better than Rhodesia was, is delusional.
Anyone who thinks Zimbabwe is better than what Rhodesia would have probably become by now, is insane.
I could not agree with you more.
I agree.
Some of Zimbabwe's cities were actually cleaner and tidier than what we thought they would even till this day. Few cars means less noise and ruckus. Quite peaceful
But still, high inflation in Occupied Rhodesia just doesn't make the country a whole lot better. Atleast the old days before Zimbabwe, there were no cash that cost like what? Trillions of dollar notes
I see poor bastards that though Zimbabwe was good still. Oh I pity their minds alright
There is simply no comparison between the qualities and successes of Rhodesia and its political successor, Zimbabwe. From 1949 I lived successively in the Nyasaland Protectorate, the Federation of Rhodesia & Nyasaland, the Republic of Malawi, and the Republic of Rhodesia, all the years of my early life until I was 25.
Bear in mind that the BSA Company Pioneer Column rode into Mashonaland, only 250 men strong, and founded Fort Salisbury in 1890. By 1923 a modern state had been created and Southern Rhodesia, as it was then, was self governing! Only thirty three years it took, from a wilderness of bush and savagery to a modern state! What has Zimbabwe achieved? Mugabe inherited everything that is there today. He even thanked Prime Minister Ian Smith for giving him ‘The Jewel of Africa.’ And so it was! Rhodesia was the breadbasket of sub Saharan Africa until Mugabe made it, with his STUPID racist economic policies, the basket case of Africa! Now I fear South Africa will go the same way. The killing of whites has already begun.
When Rhodesia decimalised the Rhodesian Pound (which was on parity with the Pound Sterling), to the Rhodesian dollar in 1970, there were two dollars to the pound, but the country’s economy rapidly strengthened and escalated such that the Rhodesian Dollar was soon on par with the British pound. In my wallet I carry an eternal memento of the disaster that is Zimbabwe. It is a (genuine!) Zimbabwean Dollar note of denomination $50 TRILLION ! Worthless! That is $50 000 000 000 000!(There was a higher denomination note of $100 TRILLION issued. That is $100 MILLION MILLION!) This says everything about Zimbabwe’s economy and Mugabe’s inability to run a modern state.
UDI, (the Rhodesian Unilateral Declaration of Independence) was Initially the making, rather than the downfall, of Rhodesia. As a result of world sanctions being imposed by all but South Africa and Portugal, Rhodesia was forced, in order to survive, to greatly increase her industrial and economic output, and in this she was very successful, even to manufacturing her own vehicles, locomotives, weapons, and the countless other essential products and items of a modern, first world state.
The Rhodesian period resulted in the creation of the best educated African people on the continent. I believe a figure of 95% literacy has been quoted. Mugabe liked to take the credit for this, whilst simultaneously giving his wife a suspicious Doctorate at the University of Zimbabwe! There was employment for all that wished to work. My memories of Salisbury in the 60s & 70s are of a happy, well dressed, working populace with plenty of money in their pockets. In that same period there was a lot of black African support for Ian Smith’s government. In latter years, after majority rule was achieved, and when Mugabe’s self destructive policies began to bite, most black Zimbabweans would say : “What did we fight for? It was better under Smith!”
Contributor Oleary has said that Rhodesia collapsed economically. This is nonsense. Nothing could be further from the truth. He is confusing Rhodesia with Zimbabwe! The Smith government was NEVER considered inept, especially by its enemies. It is certainly true that Rhodesia could not survive indefinitely. Not against the whole world. At the end of the day, Rhodesia was betrayed. She was brought down by those who should have been her friends. Britain of course, with whom Rhodesia had always bravely stood, side by side, and finally South Africa, the unkindest cut of all, who betrayed Rhodesia in order to buy a few more years with her truly racial policies, never espoused by Rhodesia. Well, South Africa, now YOUR time has come! Now I weep for YOU!
Rhodesia was only the second country in 189 years to unilaterally declare independence from Imperial Britain, and for much the same reasons. The first was the United States of America in 1776. She has been rather more successful!
Much criticism has been heaped on Rhodesia’s choice of the music of Beethoven’s Symphony No.9, ‘Ode to Joy’ as her republican national anthem. Those that criticise have missed the whole point of this very deliberate choice, just as they missed the significance of the choice of November 11th as the date for the Unilateral Declaration of Independence. In the first place, Rhodesia is remembered, by thinking people, every time the 9th is played. And November 11th, Armistice Day, was chosen as a similar reminder, that Rhodesia was honest and loyal to Britain to the very bitter end. Every time Armistice Day comes round, and every time Beethoven’s 9th is played, Rhodesia is remembered around the world.
As Rhodesia’s Prime Minister declared on November 11th 1965, “We have struck a blow for the preservation of Justice, Civilisation, and Christianity, and in the spirit of this belief, we have this day assumed our sovereign independence!”
God bless you, Rhodesia! Rest in Peace. God bless all Rhodesians and Zimbabweans, wherever you may now reside
I agree with much of what you say but Rhodesia did have racial policies, hence the segregated government schools and segregated suburbs etc.
The Rhodesians were some of the most badass people to ever exist. They fought for a good cause. I love reading about their history and I believe it’s inspirational.
Proudly Rhodesian born. Sadly now coutryless.
@@cherylsteyn9194 that can be fixed
Weren't they Racist
@@WhoisJb. everybody is racist
subjugation of the majority and a pathetic struggle to hold on to colonial power is not a good cause
My old chemistry teacher looked like an Angel - blonde hair and blue eyes, and soft voice. He was in selous scouts. When on leave he would go to pub to look for a fight. He had war stories for us on occasion. Obviously left an impression on me more than the chemistry lessons
Oh, that sounds so familiar. The Selous Scout I knew did exactly the same . Quiet as a lamb , but God forbid ,after a few in the pub , ANYONE looked at him sideways ! I cannot even begin to imagine the stress of bush fighting these guys had to endure . And before any politically correct holier than thou do-gooder even thinks of playing the race card ...the African , black and white in this unit fought hard together . I shall probably be jumped on for this posting . Ah well . Anyone read " Hold my Hand , I'm Dying": by John Gordon Davies? Please do .
@@fionahiggins6682
My brother was one of them.....
Very quiet and gentle. But heaven help you if you picked on him ( he was short) or bullied someone, he could and would drop you immediately.
He passed now.
But I remember clearly what a true gentleman and soldier he was :)....
Going to pubs to look for a fight? Sounds like an idle loser with nothing better to do.
An angel of darkness
@@richardwangombe5657 I think it's more about post traumatic stress disorder than being an idle loser. You can't train men for war and then throw them into the worst of it and expect them to come out the way they went in.
The most succesful counterinsurgency unit ever.
They lost. Big time.
@@Tourist1967 how the fuck do you expect them to win when the entire world has been pitted against them and they weren't given a chance to form a proper country?
@@Tourist1967 Not at all, they out-killed them by 10:1. They lost the political battle however.
@@Tourist1967 They lost politically sure, but we're talking about the Scouts here, they probably didn't lose a single combat engagement throughout the entire war. Some battles they killed literally 1000 terrorists and had none killed on their side. Rhodesia lost politically, the military however was completely successful
Flechas were by far the best.
i had the great honor of training and receiving my black belt from sensi barry stranack who served with the scouts .we were lucky enough to train with him in bournemouth in england what an awsome human being he is. one of the toughest men iv ever met yet so quiet and humble considering what he did in life.total respect.
I was trained in tracking by a Rhodesian scout. Best school I ever went to
Where were you trained? Was it an Army school?
I first heard of the Selous Scouts at a Church by and ex Selous Scout, never heard of them before that. I did a bit of research found an out of print book: Pamwe Chete The Legend of the Selous Scouts written by the founder Lt Col Reid Daly. What an amazing book. What the Selous Scouts did was truly incredible. They did Rhodesia proud. What the above video doesn't tell is what the primary role of what they did, which is Counter Insurgency. Imagine getting a hard core ISIS member to turn and fight against his former comrades. I believe if the Selous Scouts were around today, they would easily be one of the top SF units in the world and give many of our Tier one SF units a good run for their money.
“found an out of print book: Pamwe Chete”... be honest, how much did you pay? Anything less than 80 quid and you got lucky!
@@makara80Sorry I should have explained a bit better. I had to get it printed in the UK as it was out of print and then mailed to Australia. Cost me over $200, but it was worth every dollar spent.
Actually the selous scouts are the best tracker unit in bush warfare they in the Guinness book of records
@@mikcocoorney504 I will check it out.
They training and selection was matched to non plus they members were called to South Africa at the end of 1980 wen they had disbanded to train and fight for South Africa in they bush war / border in Namibia . They had a fearsome reputation
In 1980 I went off to Army Basic at Ft Benning, Ga. one of my drill Corporals was a Rhodesia Army vet....the toughest guy I ever met.
Amazing, just amazing. Rhodesia never stops to amaze me !
Seeing this footage is simply enlightening.
They along with RhSAS, RAR, 32 bn(South Africa) always fascinated me.
When all is said and done, from a purely fighting efficiency perspective they and the recces were unmatched in African bushwars.
@@kelvinwalker2394 Exactly. Sometimes we gotta put the politics aside and look at the meat.
Yes 32 battalion was especially my favorite unit, it always awesome to see pictures of them in action and so on
They lost for reason
@@makhorubhiyo4053 due to international outside sanctions. Not due to their fighting ability
How neat! These scouts are called after my great great grandfather, Frederick Hunter Selous
They actually named after frederick COURTENEY selous, who in actual fact is my great great grandfather, if you dont believe me Google COURTENEY boot factory
Rocking up to war with stubbies, dunlop vollies and
SLRs. Legends.
RHODESIA WAS A THRIVING PLACE BEFORE MUGABE TOOK HOLD
For the common native, twas a bit of a nightmare apparently.
@@dreambaked1024 not true, Rhodesia was nothing like south africa,, now civilians are starving and are shot without reason in any protest against government, before all this education for all races was good, it was safe, Rhodesia was even called the breadbasket of africa
So what? Who were thriving. Just the few just like it is now. Are you bothered that now those thriving are black.
@@zulufighter Rhodesia wasn't for black. If it was like you claim someone like Mugabe would have never came because Rhodesia was good like you say. Rhodesia was horrible for the native
@@Loyal2.RickOwensWayne Rhodesia wasnt for blacks,it was for everybody.Zimbabwe is only for the few
One of the best Special Operations units in history
set up by the British...
Yeah, well, they lost. Big time.
@@Tourist1967 The politicians lost the fight, just like in South Africa with that traitor De Klerk.
@@useryggfdcc was SA to remain an Apartheid state?
@@TheHypernaught
You wrong!!!
They did not!!
Reaserch
These guys were the real deal. Equally equiped, they would mop the floor with today's Rangers.
Top Blokes. We heard of the Selous Scouts when I was in the British Army back in 1980.
They were top of their game, tough as they come.
RESPECT !
My coworker just showed me this. He said he was in this regiment
My uncle was shot 3 times whilst he was there and survived, returned back to UK & lived a good long life, not bad as he started down the mines in northern england as a young boy.
Real men,terrific soldiers!!!respect!
Legendary men. It’s a crime how they were treated after their service.
God bless the Rhodesians, civilians and military! Truly brave and resourceful folk! My hat off to you all my brothers.
Brave for fighting to keep up imperialism
@@RenzoM2811 You're joking right?
The Rhodesians had declared their independence and were alone defending against communist insurgency.
To claim otherwise is just ignorance, virtue signalling and buying into the false narrative.
@@curiousfiend1169 did you forget they imposed segregation, so idgaf if they were fighting communism if they were.going to be racist
Before the start of selection, LtCol Reid-Daly addressed us all and said that anyone who had a problem with operating with Africans should leave there and then.
That beginning bit reminded me of a story my grandfather told me of when he was in the war. He was going to be driving the truck but one of his guys insisted he drives and that night they were attacked and he was killed in an ambush. They all jumped out the back and returned fire with the cowards fleeing soon after the. The managed to track them and eventually ambushed the ambushers killing or capturing all of them.
Very interesting glad I subbed
I'd say they achieved their goal; they are still considered the best Man trackers ever.
When I was young in the eighties I worked with a guy who was a son of the companie's founder. He had been in the American Army and occasionally he wore a Tshirt with a logo of a soldier and the text "Be a man among men Rhodesian Army."
There go my heroes
Get up that bloody tree, sounds just like my father 🤣
I assume the fixed Rhodesia and it's now a thriving economic powerhouse
Hahahaha!! Good one!! 👍 Unfortunately, as we both know, the country is scewed - and being sold out to the Chinese!!
Well, they're all trillionaires now!
Achually, Mr. Desmond Hamill, Selous Scouts fought communist insurgents, not nationalist insurgents.
The communists were called "nationalists" because they wanted the betterment of the Rhodesia nation, like for example not being a vassal of the Pentagon. They exhalted their national interests, many think they were the good guys because of that.
Nice report!!!
We the British failed the Rodesians, although it was before my time I still feel guilty for those that had to endure Mugabe.
Soon Rhodesia will rise again brother only time can tell
the political class sold them out like squalid back-stabbing traitors & are now dong the same to us
The same way some Ancient Greek colonies were hits and others were misses , some British colonies succeeded and others failed too.
In hind sight Rhodesia and it’s big brother to the south were built on very unstable sand from the beginning, so in my view no point shedding a tear for them now.
If it was up to me , I’d bring them all to Australia. They’re good people who just picked the wrong boat.
Well. A good number moved to Australia. The technicians and Engineers especially.
My dad told me about how he had to eat a rotten baboon during training
It’s in the book Selous Scouts Top Secret War. Stewed fetid bobo.
A friend of mine who was with the Selous Scouts learned how to get the good meat from a dead elephant that was days old.
What was it like?
@@acuriousfellow It`s also in a book by Harry Mcallion about a British Parra who joined the Recce Commando.
Taxtro Are you kidding? You’ve never had Rotten Baboon Meat Surprise? Really hits the spot.
Not going to lie, the thumbnail made me think that Bigfoot was on a rope swing.
The remnants of the Scouts guard portions of the US Embassy's outer wall in Afghanistan. I hear that when you shake their hands it like shaking hands with an iron ham--hard and huge. They share this duty with former Gurkhas. Both so tough that there are few Islamics willing to tangle.
Such a gem of a video!
1:35 Certainly NOT "a 40' drop" from that rope, unless the soldier is 10' tall. Judging by the guy coming down the rope to the ground, it "might" be 20'.
I couldn't watch the guy dragging his crotch over the rope.
If you've never done it, it's much easier going on top of the rope than going under it where gravity causes even more issues. A little downward pressure from the ankle straddling the rope takes the pressure off elsewhere, otherwise there would be a lot more friction to overcome. @@Abdulhakeembennette
Get up that bloody tree ! I knew a Selous Scout...he made Dirty Harry look like Mr.Nice Guy !
Who was better in terms of quality between the RLI, selous scout and the SAS soldier?
The best of the best.
Respect and smart hand salute
Outstanding
El mejor ejército de África y a lo mejor del mundo fue sin duda el Rhodesian
Met two of them in the Congo. Amazing operators!
your first word 'black' must have dropped off somehow
My left ear loved this video
It's reported that there existed a fierce rivalry between the SAS and the Rhodesian Light Infantry. Its said the RLI were of the position that they were by far a better, efficient and hard hitting killing machine than the SAS and they accounted for more kills and that the SAS was not overly special or superior to them. Did this hold water? Some reporters said the combination of the Selous Scouts and the RLI shamed the SAS for this type of war, but its also Said the SAS were more professional than the Selous Scouts. What's your opinion about this?
Afrikaners are asking for our help if we are nicer to them ! Call Green Leader!
Just the sounds of the Fusil Automatique Léger is a sound to behold. Gallant fellows, the lot of them- white or black.
It's a terrible situation can not be allowed
Respect 🏴☠️
i heard the selous scouts had a test. where they were sent into the bush with a rifle one bullet some fishing line and a fishing hook. the smart ones would go to the river use the the fishing line and hook and the rifle barrel as a rod.
Christ bless you
best days of my life!
Sorry if this seems a daft question, but what was with the whole short shorts wearing thing in the Selous Scouts? I’ve never understood why they did that. I assume there had to be some of kind of sensible tactical/operational reason for it, but I’ve just never seen any other special forces anywhere in the world do something similar....
IbnShahid it’s really fucking hot in Africa.
The British tradition influenced that, I am sure. They fought in North Africa in shorts (as did the Aussies). As an American, we always wear ridiculously too much whenever we go to fight. From winter weight cammies to 90 Lbs rucksacks. It's the American way, I guess! But shorts are hardcore dangerous, man. I do think I'd prefer long pants in the bush. Bugs, thorns, and infections will mess you up in the field.
If you read a hunters wanderings in Africa by Fredrick Selous he talks abbot only wearing a shirt and hat while hunting elephant so that the thorns didn't make a noise plus in the 70s we all just wore shorts in NZ while pig hunting the things you do while young and fit . But i think that there was a lot of make do in Rhodesia as well at that time and it worked .
Thanks guys. That all makes a lot of sense.
They actually dropped the shorts fairly early in the war, for camouflage trousers. While the shorts had many practical advantages, their bare legs made them too visible.
What is the difference between the Selous Scouts and the SAS? Was being a Selous Scout a prerequisite for the the SAS?
Hi. No, people did not need to be in the Selous Scouts before they could apply to join the SAS. Moreover, one difference between the units was that the Selous Scouts were multi-racial.
SAS was a white only unit trained in a typical British Army special ops fashion. Selous Scouts was a multi-racial pseudo ops unit a copy of the Portuguese Flechas that used ex-guerrilas turned friend to spread confusion terror and all types of psycological warfare against the enemy. Big diference.
Zimbabwe ..where is it now ....
Their training reminds me of the Australian military, lots of bushcraft and survival training as if invaded it would become a guerrilla war very quickly.
Great warriors !
Losers.
What were they fighting for?
They were fighting against communist backed terrorists who wanted to take control of rhodesia, they did eventually take control and now rhodesia/zimbabwe is a starving, poor country where civilians are shot and so on, these were great soldiers who faught for all of the people of rhodesia
@Patrick Kazan And chinese communists do, I suppose?
What was fascistic about defending their home from an invading ideology that history has shown to be nothing but detrimental?
“If I had to take hell, I would use the Australians and Rhodesians to take it and the New Zealanders and Irish to hold it." -Erwin Rommel/Paul Doyle
Surperb quote - and very true!! 👍
Fantastic!
the South African Special Forces are serious hard cases.
This item is not about South Africa in case you hadn't noticed, dumb fuck !!
First class soldiers, the best
Does anyone know Dave Ralph?
Maybe now, but not back when the Rhodesian Selous Scouts were around.
Tough bastards!! 👊
This is what I thought US Army basic training was going to be and I was so disappointed
Since the fall of Ian Smith's government and the takeover by Mugabe, Zimbabwe has gone straight down. From the second wealthiest country in Africa to the poorest that has lost over half of its population to emigration. It is the poor blacks who most revolted against the Rhodesians and are the same ones Mugabe has decimated and driven out.
I hear same being said about Soviet Union all the time.
@@brainblessed5814 u cant cimpare at all, unless u know nothing about history
Rhodesia would have been better off being multi cultural.
Much wealthier and globally engaged.
*NGL that thumbnail, i thought beast titan was making his move*
Does anyone know my father Ken Thompson
Tough men 💪
The people in Africa need to bring back these soldiers .
Zimbabwe*
Southern rhodesia
Best of the best.
Seems like some good troops. U.S. Army vet here.
I question why wasn't there more of an effort made at a bicameral government? Why was it an all or nothing? From my reading, both sides were against power-sharing. I believe that the country might have been better off, if both sides could've reached a better agreement. Mugabe may not have ever done the things which he was alleged to have done.
Zanu still afraid of them
Legend
Motivated!
Is this just remembering the glory days or planning for a return???
Hopefully the latter, but pretty much impossible
Never say impossible, perhaps that day will come when people are fed up enough , no matter what race!!!
Pamwe chete!
@@voodoogroove8209 Wouldn't forward together be Pamwe mberi?
No one went forward in 1979
True warriors
Yes. From one full moon to another full moon. A vision quest. The passage into manhood for the Native American tribes.
You guys had one hell of a reputation, but i have to say wtf why not mugabe.
The book "Bush War Operator" had some choice words about Mr. Reid-Daly.
The guy at 1:29 was the inspiration for Dr Zeus.
Pretty nice rope climbing technique. Atleast the monkeyclimb/catcrawl!