I love how LGR still has the same immensely likeable presentation style after all these years. Always chortling to himself. These videos are always really pleasant to watch even just as background noise.
Also going to add: the immense lack of side-commentary for Apple stuff. Clint’s clearly not comfortable with the Apple side of things-still love him tho
I worked in computer rentals in 1987-88, and the Apple IIc was one of our rentals that got picked up here and there. My most memorable rental involved delivering one of these to Universal Studios Hollywood. They said they'd be using it to control the shark in the JAWS segment of the tram ride. I never got to see the actual set-up, but that's one of my neat, old, dusty memories from the time.
Want to call out that excellent and proper packing job for the Monitor /// at 20:29. As someone that's seen his fair share of old computer stuff damaged from indifferent sellers (including a Monitor /// that was simply popped into a box with no padding of any kind), I gotta say *that* was gratifying to see.
Agreed, that was impressive. If I was buying bulky computer stuff and the seller was within a day's drive, I'd just plan a fun trip and pick it up myself.
“It’s just kind of filler content.” I thought, “damn, it’s just riffing so it’s probably short.” I was very pleasantly surprised to see 36:26! Now that’s what I’m talking about! LGR riffing is always enjoyable and informative! And yes, when I see there’s a new LGR video I click it asap. I don’t waste time checking out things like length or topic. Come on! It’s LG-frickin’-R!
I'm hearing impaired, so I always have the closed captions on - I really enjoy the way he subtitles. Amusing sound effects and "Apple-flavoured Jazz themes."
@@WolfePaws And I'm _not_ hearing-impaired (except for the near-ultrasonic frequencies we all lose sometime after our teens), but I still have the captions on as - a.) another channel into my brain, and - b.) to look for jokes and other things (like "[apple-flavored jazz tunes]" _EDIT: and "[laughs in capacitor death]"_ ) that make me smile. 🙂 Thanks as ever, LGR! 😎 An Apple IIe is super-nostalgic for me, since they were the first computers I ever used too (unless you count a Speak & Spell). My elementary school (late '80s-early '90s) had quite a few of 'em!
8:49 That's most likely the Apple Extended 80 Column Card, which gave the machine 80 column display capabilities and 64k extra RAM (bank switched, as the 6502 could only address 64k of memory at a time). It also enables double high resolution graphics, 512x192 in 16 colors 😊 The other options from Apple for the Enhanced slot were the Apple 80 column card (no RAM other than a doubling of the video RAM), and the RGB Extended 80 column Card, for the ultra rare Apple RGB display (several of which were rescued from outdoor storage at Computer Reset).
Definitely a display card, just looking at the part numbers - the big chip is a CRT controller with built-in character generator, plus two EPROMS (for character sets?) and a 2 KByte static RAM. I don't know anything about specific Apple cards though.
@@robotickilldozer if it's only got 2K of RAM, then it's the Apple 80 Column Card. There were several revisions of the Extended 80 Column Card (which had 64K RAM on board). I know this because I went to an Apple store in 1992, to get a new one for our 1986 Enhanced //e, which had blown a RAM chip. We got a much newer card that was much smaller and only had two RAM chips on it. I was in college at this point, and convinced my mom to buy a 386 PC for the home computer 🤣
I really appreciate this interim "Blerbs but higher quality" format. It feels like a bit of a throwback to the older times before production quality got more focused
I never wanted to NEED captions, but the LGR captions are a special kind of gold that make me feel like we get an even better video. It's nice to be thought of this way. 🤣💛
I found a whole pallet of IIe platinums at the dump about 20 years ago, took em home and made one really nice IIe platinum. Then proceeded to make a CAD program, word processor, fractal generator, quiz game, kind of re-runs from my high school days really. I called it "Appleatia" and still have it scanned for emulators. Fun stuff, these were really primitive computers but the included software, really made it an excellent platform for learning the basics of coding and math.
We used those in middle school when they had long been ancient. The Navy dumped a lot of old tech off on the school I went to in late middle school. It was called Northeast Middle School, and my class was the first class to start and finish at the new building they'd built for it. I was in a gifted class, and I had to write my first novel on the Apple IIe. I got in trouble for it because it was violent and didn't get to go to D.C. with the rest of the class when Bill Clinton was President. Didn't miss out on much. I did make the President's list though that year and got a letter from Clinton. Also learned some BASIC on the IIe back then. They had some really cool RPG's for it. Games like oregon trail are easy to make in BASIC.
Bear in mind that on a monochrome monitor, the "composite" video output is exactly equivalent to just the luma part of a component video output. So you would expect it to be very sharp. The monitor won't include any hardware to strip out the colour band of component video (too expensive!), but will instead ignore the colour burst and treat the colour band as the higher frequency part of the luma signal. Thus on a monochrome monitor you get back the horizontal sharpness that you would have lost to the colour band on a composite colour monitor. Since the Apple II's display hardware is really monochrome internally, and relies on NTSC artifacting to produce colour, everything works out perfectly!
Hi Clint. Long time listener, first time caller. Your videos always trigger a pleasant dive into nostalgia...Computer classes with Word Muncher and Oregon Trail. Attending local yard sales buying random computer equipment, convinced some combination of which would lead to a time machine. Getting actual floppy disks as a present on Christmas morning (including Corncob and Wolfenstein 3D). Thank you for your videos. Hope the rest of your move goes well!
If you’re not interested in “hey, here’s some computers, let’s talk about ‘em”, I have to wonder how you’d have stumbled across LGR in the first place 😂
@@rommix0 I mean that's a fair point, though at least in the modern day when he does that he tends to be running retro games on a cool retro setup and so the hardware is at least a co-star in the show 😁
I remember an Apple retailer in the Everett mall in the 1983 or 84 ish years. Id go in there at 13 yr old and sit at the desk, going through the demonstration software, using a mouse for the first time. The salesman was not super happy a 13 yr old was in his showroom, potentially taking valuable time away from his real clients.
Those were the days when the mall was cool. I miss that big fountain that use to be in the middle of the Everett Mall. The only store I recognize is Spencers.
My elementary had a lab of Apple IIs of some variety (probably E) until it was tipped down and rebuilt in 2002. I was using those things in like 2002 in second grade. Always wanted one ever since
Same here. The public school I went to from 6th grade and onward had a lab full of IIe systems and each teacher had a IIgs of their own. By 1992, the school got in some new Mac LC II and LC III systems for the library and Mac computer lab. Those systems were linked together to 3 ImageWriter II and a couple LaserWriter printers via PhoneNet adapters. The Mac lab teacher had a IIci on her desk and another IIci acting as a print spooler. Imagine, for a moment a roomful of those Macs all sending a print task at the same time. It would likely be about 20 minutes later or so before it finally got to your print job. Very slow.
The Apple II was a machine that was pretty rare in the UK as the BBC micro had the UK education market lock, stock and barrel and the ZX Spectrum was king of the UK home computer market in the 1980s, however the Apple II was the machine to play The Oregon Trail. Last night I was watching the 1985 James Bond film A View To a Kill and noticed an Apple IIc with the green screen used by Tanya Roberts to check the Richter scale of an earthquake.
Apple anything was pretty darn rare in Denmark as well up until the mid-80s, also because we had our own RC systems which sat in every school (built by the state-owned computer centre and supplied to all public schools for next to nothing) and Commodore dominated the home market - nearly every kid I went to school with had a C64 and I don't think any of us knew what "Apple" was. We also had CBM PET in some schools, though that was mostly private schools that didn't get computers supplied by the state. First Apple machine I ever saw was the original Mac in some store and it's honestly not until relatively recently I found out what an Apple II was, but I do remember it being mentioned in some of the old Sierra game manuals. Apple just weren't ever able to get on the market in Denmark outside the graphics industry before the Macbook and iMac
The Apple II plus was the very first computer I ever used in elementary school, we also had Apple IIe in our school library. Played lots of typing games and these computers were used throughout the 1980s until our school upgrade to the Macintosh in the late 80s!
Back in elementary school in California, this was THE computer of choice in the 80s! Every single school in the district had a room full of these. Green monochrome monitors and all!
Yep, seeing these all lined up on a table makes me feel so nostalgic. Like, I suddenly have the urge to create a turtle and make it move across the screen.
Clint, if you need any help on Apple II related computers, I've been using them for 40 years at this point, feel free to reach out. The Apple ][ plus mystery card you have is an 80 column card, the male plug goes into the back of the computer, the female is where you connect the monitor. PR#3 from the basic prompt will activate 80 column mode, this card belongs in slot 3. 80 columns is very handy for CP/M with the Appli-card, I have the software for the Appli-card if you need it. Note: Slots on the Apple ][ and plus start at 0 on the left, then 1 through 7. Disk ][ controller goes in slot 6. The ROM card or 16 k language card go in slot 0.
The Apple II line is such a great range of machines. Woz’s decision to have all that expansion built in was brilliant. In fact a IIe Platinum just followed me home yesterday. I sense a Jan/Adrian style repair-a-thon upcoming. Although I’m not sure how many times you can replace RIFA caps and stay interesting 😂
Fantastic. I still have my ][ Plus from 1982, and my IIGS from 1986. Picked up a //e Platinum years ago to shore up the collection - basically new and stored in a school closet for years. Learned about obsolescence early on when my folks got me the ][ Plus in Dec '82 and Apple introduced the //e the next month.
Amazing how good that display looks. Just makes me sad to think that all CRTs have limited life left considering their parts aren't manufactured anymore.
Excellent collection!! The AppliCard is cpu card that runs faster than Microsoft CPM card. The card with the video cables allows you to do 80 columns :)
IIGS was epic looking back. Amazing engineering and design for that time period. Those computers were good for 10 years of usefulness. I had a G3 97-2008 with one hardware upgrade. Information increases became too big for that machine.
Much like you, my first experience with the Apple II was the IIe's we had in our Kindergarten classroom. We didn't have many noteworthy games though, just the rare Apple II version of Fisher-Price School Bus Driver, a game called Mathosaurus (by Micrograms, a relatively obscure company), and a few MECC games that weren't the well-known ones. They also had Apple II's (I think at least one of them was a IIc) in the 1st grade pod, and the only program I remember from there was Quilting Bee.
Just love this. I'm excited of what other LGR hidden goodies we're gonna get videos about.. Cleaning and reorganising stuff always brings up things we forget we had and I love that, that feeling produced a video from LGR. :D Edit: I also loved that he knew what blew up like right away. That is just experience. xD
Wonderful Apple II collection. Some of my earliest gaming experiences were on the Apple IIe. I love the old PCs and DOS gaming as you do but nice to see your keen interest in these Apple classics! Nostalgic green monochrome monitor lol had one of those!
The original Apple II was a yard sale find in 2017 for $5 - it was totally chance. I had asked the person if they had any old computers for sale and she said her neighbor brought one over to put in the sale and was in the garage behind her. Walked in to take a look, boom Apple II with a Disk II drive. She had no idea if it worked (nor did I) and at that time, I knew next to nothing about them (other than having used them back in school a bit), didn't even know there were different Apple II models. Brought it home, did a little testing - it worked, somewhat, initially booting the one disk that was left in the drive that had some games on it. Posted about finding it on the Twitters and LGR mentioned he had been looking for one for a long time. Being a fan and not really, at the time, wanting to get into Apple II, I took him up on the offer. Sadly, I didn't get the history on the machine prior to the yard sale, the owner wasn't there to speak to.
Thanks for sharing the history of this Apple II machine! I’m sure LGR is enjoying picking it up from you, and it’s good to see an old apple II find a good home especially with someone like LGR, because of your offer to sell the machine to LGR, we all get to enjoy it! The Apple II you so graciously saved from that yard sale, has been given a second chance at life, being shared with the world through LGR’s videos! Thank you very much, kind sir/madam! You’re a hero of retro tech, saviour of neglected machines, and generous supporter of the channel! I tip my hat to you!
The IIGS keyboard is still amazing to use, even though the compact size and lack of any borders/edges to rest a hand or finger takes some getting used to. Love the sound and feel, and they take a pounding for decades with no issues.
When you finally get settled down, you may want to adjust the V.Linearity on the Monitor III (Hopefully it has one). Listing the catalog really shows how stretched out the characters at the top are compared to the squished ones at the bottom.
The IIe with a Monitor III is one of the ultimate computer rigs to me. My dad bought basically this exact setup in '83 for serious business (VisiCalc!) and a few years, later once he switched to a PC, he handed it off to us kids. Such good memories!
Apple 2e was my first machine when I was 9 years old. It got me into a lifetime of computers, tech and building PC's. Its a shame I have no idea what happened to it all these decades later. This video brought back some memories, especially the sounds when you turned it on. I had not thought about that in many years. Good stuff!
Back in the 5th grade (1995) my teacher Mr. Rice was an avid computer collector and his class had 30 apple IIs, one for each student to learn computer stuff. He allegedly had over a hundred stored in his garage. I've always had a soft spot for the apple II as it was the first computer I leaned how to program on along with the C64.
Wow! Score on the quality of the machine and the packing. It's like getting a museum piece. I did notice something, and I'm not sure if it was your camera angle causing an illusion or not. But on the monitor III, it looks as if the scan lines are further apart near the top of the screen, gradually getting closer together as you travel down the screen. It's been years since I worked on those old CRT's, but I think the adjustment is called 'linearity'. It might even be one of those pots on the back. I liked those mesh anti-glare screens. As Mel would say, shiny!
Yeah, the linearity definitely needs adjusting. Don't know about that monitor in particular, but for some, the linearity adjustment was a coil you'd use a plastic hexagonal tool to adjust.
love this content Clint! don't worry about that it feels low effort to you. its not! you just pumped out a 36 min video with amazing machines. really enjoyed it. thank you!
I like how there's just a single disk the school copied a bunch of programs onto. I suspect that's just how they did site licensing back then: you'd buy one copy and you were allowed to make a certain number of duplicates, which you'd have to supply your own blanks for, but it was still cheaper than buying a whole boxed copy for every machine in the lab. Our school had a bigger floppy budget than wherever this came from; each program got its own disk. Funnily enough I don't remember ever seeing _Oregon Trail_ in action until they kitted out the lab with Windows 98 PCs and moved the Apples into the classrooms for us to play with during study hall. There were just so many other things to do that were no doubt considered more educational. Number Munchers, Math Shop, Typing Tutor...
P.S. Apple had a kit to convert earlier //e's to the Enhanced model. AsI recall, it's four chips. The kit had a 65C02, a new character ROM, a new system ROM (which reintroduced the ! assembler from the original Apple ][, which was dropped in the ][+ ), and a fourth chip (forget which one). And, of course, the "Enhanced" sticker for the power LED on the keyboard 😂 The 65C02 had 10 new assembly instructions compared to the 6502, and it also dropped a few undocumented instructions that were in the original MOS 6502.
Not only does the Apple ][gs look like a Mac on the outside, it has a GUI that looks very much like the MacOS contemporary with it, but smoother and in color. Despite the fact the 65816 being completely gimped for clock speed, the ][gs runs rings around the 1986 Macs.
I remember seeing the TRS-80 in Radio Shack when I was kid and while it looked neat, all I cared about as a kid was the Atari 2600. It was the Apple IIe in school that opened my eyes to computers and I have loved computers since.
Apple IIe was the first computer I ever laid eyes on. We played good ol' Oregon Trail and there was that game where you had to get the chicken, fox, and grain across a river. I'm sure there was some educational stuff we did, too.. 😋
Nice one Clint! I had an Apple II+ once (with the "Monitor ///" and double 5 ¼" drives)... had tons of fun tinkering with it. I too remember encountering keyboard issues. Brings back memories!
With the exception of the filter caps, Apple 2 PSUs are pretty solid. And welcome to early IIe ownership. I bought the same type back in the day, after making the case that I should spend "college money" from the grandparents early.
I just came to say that I found your channel yesterday while I was installing an old American Online 8.0 into my computer and I love your content. I love how passionate you are about old tech and the way you get so excited! It is awesome! I am so happy to have found your channel
@@LGR That one you did where you were IMing a person who wanted their cigarette lit. That's a classic. I was homeless at the time when you uploaded that video and I remember it well as I was doing the same thing by making my own AOL account lol.
The Apple II line was the one I was raised on in grade school! loved how much more that the IIGS could do, for sure! I forget how I learned but I discovered the secret menu that let you change the colors and the octave the start tone played at! OMG the OG BASIC version of Oregon Trail I haven't seen that version in *years* ... was cool to see while that power supply part lasted, hoping it's not too much trouble to replace or remove entirely (as you were saying) but this was fun to watch!!
My first exposure to the Apple IIe was in 1st Grade in 1988/1989. It was all about Number Munchers, Oregon Trail, and Odell Lake. Managed to finally buy one that will also undergo the restorative works!
I think this was the setup of the computer in The Swan in lost. they definitely used a Monitor 3 and some form of Apple 2. I always loved that choice of computer in that show.
Great video! IIe was def the computers we had in elementary school - my Dad worked for Martin Marietta which was an Apple shop and had a decent employee discount. So we had at home the IIgs, then a Mac IIci, then a Radius branded PowerMac clone believe it or not. Those carried me through the 90s more or less til my first Windows PC in college.
Great video LGR. Don't stress too much about content right now, get yourself settled. Your videos are and will always be worth waiting for. Thanks for sharing 😊
12:50 I am now imagining a young Clint sitting in school at his computer class, typing up and printing a page full of the word "farts." And getting a stern look from the teachers. After which he vowed that every time he tested out a new computer, keyboard or word processing type thing, he would do so using the word "farts." And thus a legend was born.
I really wish there was more good Apple IIGS content out there! Its such a beautiful computer. I know that you have an old review of it and its a good video. I just want more!
My parents bought a //gs when they came out inm 1986 (it was a Woz edition). I was in 6th grade at the time and put many hours on it between typing school papers in AppleWorks to print on the ImageWriter II, connecting to dialup BBSs with the DataLink 1200 internal modem or playing games on it. Later added an 85 MB external hard drive and a SCSI controller card. My folks used the computer a little bit but it sat dormant once I went off to college (I had bought a used Mac Portable). I did use the //gs on occasion when I came home on the weekend. I would dial into the college there and then Telnet into the systems at the college I attended. Once I got married and moved out in 1999, the //gs gathered dust. Eventually it was landfilled (this was before the hazards were so well known or any thought was given to their collectability).
Those Disk ][ drives give me more nostalgia tingles than anything else here. They had a great solid feel, weight, wonderful texture and that latch clicking into place… 🥰
The Apple //e was the very first computer I had. I learned to read while using that old cabbage colored screen and spent my summer one year catching Carmen Sandiego with the aid of a pretty outdated almanac. I learned the words SYNTAX ERROR courtesy of that machine.
Thanks for reminding me to open my woz signed (with a sharpie, at classic gaming expo 2003, not silk screened) IIGS on the shelf and clip out the battery. No leaking! Phew.
When I was in high school, we had a craft room with an Apple computer running the Kid Pix program. Every time we had crafts, one student was allowed to work on the Apple computer and other students to work on their craft project.
Back in the day... we had several Apple II in our High School, almost in every class. We usually played games on them when the teacher wasn't looking, good old memories lol.
I'll have to show this to my little sister (now 50); she remembers using Apple 2e when she was in school in the late 80s. Mind you, I was 15 when the original Apple 2 premiered, and the closest thing my high school had to a keyboard were both manual and electric typewriters :) But this video really helped me; I have had a portable computer I've had for a good 15 years, and now I know it's a clone Apple IIe. Finding that out I can now look for an AC adapter to see if it works :). Thanks for the videos over the years!
I always love the chill jazz playing in the background. With your soft voice and the nice jazz, listening to computer stuff is relaxing. Really relaxing. Like just chillin at a coffee shop while people chat.
The one Apple I wouldn't mind having is that Apple IIgs! Not an Apple fan at all, except the older classics from them. The IIgs is really the one I am looking for and am so glad you have one to show off!
The mystery card in the Apple II+ is probably indeed an 80-column card. Probably a clone of the Videx VideoTerm, the most popular solution at the time. The male RCA F-Type probably goes into the video out on the back of the Apple II+, and the female one connects to a normal male-to-male cable leading to your monitor. Hook it up and verify that video passes through normally, then type PR#n at a BASIC command prompt (where n is the number of the slot you have it installed in...#3 is a popular choice) and see if it overrides the video and switches to 80-column text or not. Use PR#0 to switch back to 40-column text.- If you get nothing, maybe I got the cables backwards. If you still get nothing, it might not work, or there might be some other fine tuning you need to do. Look up a manual online for the Videx VideoTerm and try a few of the things they suggest.
Upvote for Videx. I used to have a whole box of those in the 90's. I really should have kept all that stuff. Dad worked at Videx in little Corvallis, Oregon, so I had lots of II and early Mac stuff growing up.
Ya know, I didn't mind the echoey room,or the surface level discussion of the Apple II's, your videos in general are just awesome to watch Edit: I heard that pop and was like "Uh oh,that can't be good" glad it wasn't worse
O yeah the Apple //e was ahuge part of my childhood well into middle school in the 90's as it was also one of the first computers I ever used after the Commodore Vic-20, starting in 5 year old kindergarten in 86, and soon after I got my first Commodore 64, in mid 86, and then in early 87, my uncle gave me an Apple //e with dual disk drives, epson dot matrix printer, a pair of SunTac, joysticks, an official Apple Joystick, and a wack ton of software on floppies as he was moving over the the IBM PC for his work, and no longer needed the Apple //e, and just too many great games to list between the Apple //e, & Commodore 64/128(got one in late 88after the PSU took out my C64). So thanks for this little trip down memory lane. 👍🏻😊
Highest of thumbs up LGR. Before my uncle let us borrow his C64, my first experiences in computing were on a friends Apple 2e. Mostly I just watched while he drove, but every once in a while I'd get a chance to use it. I remember it felt magical. Brings back a lot of memories of Legacy of the Ancients and Karateka.
21:10 I can still remember as a kid my unboxing of my brand new Apple IIe system that was purchased new in June 1984, talk about a kid in a candy store! Basically like your setup, unit, 80col/mem card, two 5-1/4 drives, monitor iii, stand. It was so fun. Also go a Epson FX80 printer, went through a lot of ribbons with that printer. Then the upgrade to an Apple IIc that I turned into a fully portable unit with battery, LCD snap on display, 800kb 3.5" floppies. Those were the days! Keep up the good work sir! 👍😎🍺
I had my Osborne 1 blow a filter cap, and holy crap to the third degree it let out a lot of death smoke and to this day the computer can still emit a whiff occasionally when it's running. I'm doubtful it'll ever fully go away
Glad to see you break out the Apple II stuff for this. I did notice the Monitor III has a bit of a vertical linearity issue but at least that shouldn't be a major issue to fix.
@@tetsujin_144 same. I got my IIc in 1999 in a box with random cables and power cords. The guy at the thrift store sold everything to me for a buck lol. This was in the early days of eBay before people listed anything vintage. Back then a lot of people didn't have computers let alone internet or digital camera. Listing something on eBay seemed intimidating for everyday folk back then. That was the best time to go computer collecting.
The Apple //e was the very first personal computer I ever used. My dad bought a used one off a guy who had upgraded to a Macintosh. This one came with that same Monitor /// and stand. My dad got a bunch of public domain software to use with the computer. Quite a bit of that software was buggy. Fixing the bugs in the programs written in Applesoft BASIC is what convinced me I wanted to be a computer programmer when I grew up.
I remember using the Apple IIe in about Kindergarten, Grade 1 and 2, then my school upgraded to the IIgs. The IIgs was my favorite. I have a lot of found memories of that machine. It wasn't until I was much, much older that we actually got a computer at home, which was a Compaq Presario Pentium machine.
th-cam.com/video/SlgOsqlInpc/w-d-xo.html *The* *8-Bit* *Guy* showed on off on his channel once and did some sort of restoration to it. It had a hole cut out for an old fan mod and he filled it in.
Clint, young man, despite you just "threw" this together, it was awesome!!! I've always loved your channel, but seeing "baby Clint" reviewing "Stunts on PC" or something way back when, to now, it's amazing how you've grown and keep the charm we love. You take care of yoursef during the move, but CANNOT wait for more!!!!
Man this takes me back. The Apple IIe was my first computer in middle school. Learned some very remedial programming in BASIC back then, all of which evaporated from my memory many years ago.
My very first computer experience was at school on an Apple IIe. Our computer lab had several, and we could play edutainment games like Oregon Trail, Speedway Math, and Number Munchers. We also learned very simple BASIC skills. Then a few years later I got an Apple IIe at home, before getting my first Windows machine a few years after that.
What a blast from the past! (Literally if you watched to the end.) The original Apple ][ is the first home computer I ever used. My friend who lived down the street from me had one and it must have been 1981 or 82 which would have been around first grade. His dad got it from work, and it was set up on a milk crate in their living room, with a green screen monitor and a pair of Disk ][ drives. We spent so many hours sitting on the floor in front of that computer playing with basic, making moire patterns in graphics mode, playing text adventure games. We didn’t have much in terms of software but we made the best of what we had!
Clint, don't worry about the barebones filming, single table, echoy room....it's the back to your roots why we are here in the first place....Lazy Game Reviews. 😊
I was in High School, and did a co-op term at an Apple Education Demonstration Lab here in Ottawa at the Carleton Board of Education. I later built myself a clone Apple ][+, soldered it together myself. I had 3rd party floppy drives as well, made by Asuka. Unlike the Apple ][ floppies that wou'd "seek" track 0 to boot by running the drive head's stepper motor 34 times outward...no matter where on the disk the heads were at boot time, the Asuka drives had a little switch that was hit when it reached track 0, and caused the drive to ignore the remaining commands to continue stepping the head outwards. Made for a quicker and quieter boot. That Disk ][ head seeking trick is most of the reason why Apple ][ drives tend to go out of alignment, and some people I know who used their Apple][s a lot would actually drill a hole in the floppy case so they could stick a screwdriver in to turn the adjustment screw to align the head because it went out so frequently.
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I love how LGR still has the same immensely likeable presentation style after all these years. Always chortling to himself. These videos are always really pleasant to watch even just as background noise.
I am watching LDR since 2011... that year i got my first PC , and my own first internet connection...
agreed
Also going to add: the immense lack of side-commentary for Apple stuff. Clint’s clearly not comfortable with the Apple side of things-still love him tho
I worked in computer rentals in 1987-88, and the Apple IIc was one of our rentals that got picked up here and there. My most memorable rental involved delivering one of these to Universal Studios Hollywood. They said they'd be using it to control the shark in the JAWS segment of the tram ride. I never got to see the actual set-up, but that's one of my neat, old, dusty memories from the time.
I remember going on that ride in the summer of 89 when I was out there.
What's more nuts is that they used nine of these and an Altair 8800 to control the Tic Tac Dough game board.
Interesting they they make use the expression slot to drive relays to drive motors to do motions
Want to call out that excellent and proper packing job for the Monitor /// at 20:29. As someone that's seen his fair share of old computer stuff damaged from indifferent sellers (including a Monitor /// that was simply popped into a box with no padding of any kind), I gotta say *that* was gratifying to see.
Agreed, that was impressive. If I was buying bulky computer stuff and the seller was within a day's drive, I'd just plan a fun trip and pick it up myself.
If only more people took the time to research how to ship a CRT :/
I recently had an ibm 5153 monitor show up in a million pieces so I completely know what you mean!
along side home economics and shop classes, the school systems should have classes on how to properly pack a CRT monitor for ebay shipment
@@TheSulross Legitimately, I liked my home economics class and shop class in middle school!
LGR is moving, a hectic thing moving, and he still manages to give his fans some interesting content. Thanks LGR!
Will future LGR have a dedicated Arcade space?
Is it ironic or appropriate that it's an unboxing video?
props my friend, good thing the weather has been good haha.
Thanks Mr LGR!
i appreciate this.
“It’s just kind of filler content.”
I thought, “damn, it’s just riffing so it’s probably short.” I was very pleasantly surprised to see 36:26! Now that’s what I’m talking about! LGR riffing is always enjoyable and informative! And yes, when I see there’s a new LGR video I click it asap. I don’t waste time checking out things like length or topic. Come on! It’s LG-frickin’-R!
but even when he's not rifting he comes off as though he's rifting - is his super power talent
"If I had more time, I would have written a shorter letter"
Naming the chapter “RIFA madness” was an excellent touch. I giggled way more at that than I should’ve.
I'm hearing impaired, so I always have the closed captions on - I really enjoy the way he subtitles. Amusing sound effects and "Apple-flavoured Jazz themes."
take it apaaaaart
@@WolfePaws And I'm _not_ hearing-impaired (except for the near-ultrasonic frequencies we all lose sometime after our teens), but I still have the captions on as
- a.) another channel into my brain, and
- b.) to look for jokes and other things (like "[apple-flavored jazz tunes]" _EDIT: and "[laughs in capacitor death]"_ ) that make me smile. 🙂
Thanks as ever, LGR! 😎 An Apple IIe is super-nostalgic for me, since they were the first computers I ever used too (unless you count a Speak & Spell). My elementary school (late '80s-early '90s) had quite a few of 'em!
I found an old cloner in a box of random old junk. I'll make a copy of myself and mail it to you. :-)
Let's get right to it.
@@vhfgamer IT FRICKIN WORKS
The cloner IS the box
@@rommix0 Look at that!
@Adrian's Digital Basement My clones will welcome your clones with open arms and goofy grins!
8:49 That's most likely the Apple Extended 80 Column Card, which gave the machine 80 column display capabilities and 64k extra RAM (bank switched, as the 6502 could only address 64k of memory at a time). It also enables double high resolution graphics, 512x192 in 16 colors 😊 The other options from Apple for the Enhanced slot were the Apple 80 column card (no RAM other than a doubling of the video RAM), and the RGB Extended 80 column Card, for the ultra rare Apple RGB display (several of which were rescued from outdoor storage at Computer Reset).
560x192 DHGR :-)
@@MichaelPohoreski Oh yeah, forgot HGR was 280 pixels...😉
you beat me to it lol
Definitely a display card, just looking at the part numbers - the big chip is a CRT controller with built-in character generator, plus two EPROMS (for character sets?) and a 2 KByte static RAM. I don't know anything about specific Apple cards though.
@@robotickilldozer if it's only got 2K of RAM, then it's the Apple 80 Column Card. There were several revisions of the Extended 80 Column Card (which had 64K RAM on board). I know this because I went to an Apple store in 1992, to get a new one for our 1986 Enhanced //e, which had blown a RAM chip. We got a much newer card that was much smaller and only had two RAM chips on it. I was in college at this point, and convinced my mom to buy a 386 PC for the home computer 🤣
I really appreciate this interim "Blerbs but higher quality" format. It feels like a bit of a throwback to the older times before production quality got more focused
[Laughs in capacitor death] LGR's captions are always gold.
I never wanted to NEED captions, but the LGR captions are a special kind of gold that make me feel like we get an even better video. It's nice to be thought of this way. 🤣💛
@@mialemon6186 As a budding captioner, seeing comments like these makes me want to do them as well as LGR does. ❤️🍍
"Uh oh - shit!" the most common spoken phrase for retro tech enthusiasts lol
Truth
I found a whole pallet of IIe platinums at the dump about 20 years ago, took em home and made one really nice IIe platinum. Then proceeded to make a CAD program, word processor, fractal generator, quiz game, kind of re-runs from my high school days really. I called it "Appleatia" and still have it scanned for emulators. Fun stuff, these were really primitive computers but the included software, really made it an excellent platform for learning the basics of coding and math.
Do you have the rom online anywhere? That sounds super interesting to play around with.
@@mosquitobrainbutcool actually yes, as dsk files I think.
We used those in middle school when they had long been ancient. The Navy dumped a lot of old tech off on the school I went to in late middle school. It was called Northeast Middle School, and my class was the first class to start and finish at the new building they'd built for it. I was in a gifted class, and I had to write my first novel on the Apple IIe. I got in trouble for it because it was violent and didn't get to go to D.C. with the rest of the class when Bill Clinton was President. Didn't miss out on much. I did make the President's list though that year and got a letter from Clinton. Also learned some BASIC on the IIe back then. They had some really cool RPG's for it. Games like oregon trail are easy to make in BASIC.
Bear in mind that on a monochrome monitor, the "composite" video output is exactly equivalent to just the luma part of a component video output. So you would expect it to be very sharp. The monitor won't include any hardware to strip out the colour band of component video (too expensive!), but will instead ignore the colour burst and treat the colour band as the higher frequency part of the luma signal. Thus on a monochrome monitor you get back the horizontal sharpness that you would have lost to the colour band on a composite colour monitor. Since the Apple II's display hardware is really monochrome internally, and relies on NTSC artifacting to produce colour, everything works out perfectly!
LGR: "I'm itching to do another setup video..." Proceeds to do a setup video. The legend delivers again. =)
It's refreshing to see Apple products that were designed to be easy to open up and repair / upgrade.
Hi Clint. Long time listener, first time caller. Your videos always trigger a pleasant dive into nostalgia...Computer classes with Word Muncher and Oregon Trail. Attending local yard sales buying random computer equipment, convinced some combination of which would lead to a time machine. Getting actual floppy disks as a present on Christmas morning (including Corncob and Wolfenstein 3D). Thank you for your videos. Hope the rest of your move goes well!
The amber Alps in the Apple IIc are absolutely beautiful to type on, easily the best keyboard in Apple's collection.
If you’re not interested in “hey, here’s some computers, let’s talk about ‘em”, I have to wonder how you’d have stumbled across LGR in the first place 😂
He used to do a lot of game stuff. The computer stuff was much later but that's what "Lazy Game Reviews" is best known for now.
My thoughts exactly
@@rommix0 I mean that's a fair point, though at least in the modern day when he does that he tends to be running retro games on a cool retro setup and so the hardware is at least a co-star in the show 😁
it's his celebrity status
Computer bathing 😅
I remember an Apple retailer in the Everett mall in the 1983 or 84 ish years.
Id go in there at 13 yr old and sit at the desk, going through the demonstration software, using a mouse for the first time. The salesman was not super happy a 13 yr old was in his showroom, potentially taking valuable time away from his real clients.
Those were the days when the mall was cool. I miss that big fountain that use to be in the middle of the Everett Mall. The only store I recognize is Spencers.
My elementary had a lab of Apple IIs of some variety (probably E) until it was tipped down and rebuilt in 2002. I was using those things in like 2002 in second grade. Always wanted one ever since
Same here. The public school I went to from 6th grade and onward had a lab full of IIe systems and each teacher had a IIgs of their own. By 1992, the school got in some new Mac LC II and LC III systems for the library and Mac computer lab. Those systems were linked together to 3 ImageWriter II and a couple LaserWriter printers via PhoneNet adapters. The Mac lab teacher had a IIci on her desk and another IIci acting as a print spooler. Imagine, for a moment a roomful of those Macs all sending a print task at the same time. It would likely be about 20 minutes later or so before it finally got to your print job. Very slow.
An LGR - Adrian's Digital Basement Apple fix collab? Sounds like fun. 😁😉
The Apple II was a machine that was pretty rare in the UK as the BBC micro had the UK education market lock, stock and barrel and the ZX Spectrum was king of the UK home computer market in the 1980s, however the Apple II was the machine to play The Oregon Trail. Last night I was watching the 1985 James Bond film A View To a Kill and noticed an Apple IIc with the green screen used by Tanya Roberts to check the Richter scale of an earthquake.
@Spectrum User Yup the same RIFA capacitors
Apple anything was pretty darn rare in Denmark as well up until the mid-80s, also because we had our own RC systems which sat in every school (built by the state-owned computer centre and supplied to all public schools for next to nothing) and Commodore dominated the home market - nearly every kid I went to school with had a C64 and I don't think any of us knew what "Apple" was. We also had CBM PET in some schools, though that was mostly private schools that didn't get computers supplied by the state. First Apple machine I ever saw was the original Mac in some store and it's honestly not until relatively recently I found out what an Apple II was, but I do remember it being mentioned in some of the old Sierra game manuals. Apple just weren't ever able to get on the market in Denmark outside the graphics industry before the Macbook and iMac
All these apple II's remind me of the ones in every school classroom in middle school in the mid 90's, nostalgic!
Hell our elementary school had them here.
Mid 90's? We had Apple IIe's in our classroom in 9th grade in 83.
The Apple II plus was the very first computer I ever used in elementary school, we also had Apple IIe in our school library. Played lots of typing games and these computers were used throughout the 1980s until our school upgrade to the Macintosh in the late 80s!
Back in elementary school in California, this was THE computer of choice in the 80s! Every single school in the district had a room full of these. Green monochrome monitors and all!
Yep, seeing these all lined up on a table makes me feel so nostalgic. Like, I suddenly have the urge to create a turtle and make it move across the screen.
Clint, if you need any help on Apple II related computers, I've been using them for 40 years at this point, feel free to reach out.
The Apple ][ plus mystery card you have is an 80 column card, the male plug goes into the back of the computer, the female is where you connect the monitor. PR#3 from the basic prompt will activate 80 column mode, this card belongs in slot 3. 80 columns is very handy for CP/M with the Appli-card, I have the software for the Appli-card if you need it.
Note: Slots on the Apple ][ and plus start at 0 on the left, then 1 through 7. Disk ][ controller goes in slot 6. The ROM card or 16 k language card go in slot 0.
The Apple II line is such a great range of machines. Woz’s decision to have all that expansion built in was brilliant. In fact a IIe Platinum just followed me home yesterday.
I sense a Jan/Adrian style repair-a-thon upcoming. Although I’m not sure how many times you can replace RIFA caps and stay interesting 😂
The Apple 2e was my first computer ever. Even today the sound of it running hits me with a nostalgia nothing else can touch.
Fantastic. I still have my ][ Plus from 1982, and my IIGS from 1986. Picked up a //e Platinum years ago to shore up the collection - basically new and stored in a school closet for years. Learned about obsolescence early on when my folks got me the ][ Plus in Dec '82 and Apple introduced the //e the next month.
Amazing how good that display looks. Just makes me sad to think that all CRTs have limited life left considering their parts aren't manufactured anymore.
This reminds me I need to snip the battery out of my IIgs.. And replace its RIFA cap!
Excellent collection!! The AppliCard is cpu card that runs faster than Microsoft CPM card. The card with the video cables allows you to do 80 columns :)
IIGS was epic looking back. Amazing engineering and design for that time period. Those computers were good for 10 years of usefulness. I had a G3 97-2008 with one hardware upgrade. Information increases became too big for that machine.
The only reason I stopped with my IIgs was I needed Internet access on 1994. I did so much with that computer, and I miss it.
The IIgs was our family’s first computer. Used it from 1987 until we upgraded to a win95 Acer in 95 or 96. Loved that machine.
Much like you, my first experience with the Apple II was the IIe's we had in our Kindergarten classroom. We didn't have many noteworthy games though, just the rare Apple II version of Fisher-Price School Bus Driver, a game called Mathosaurus (by Micrograms, a relatively obscure company), and a few MECC games that weren't the well-known ones. They also had Apple II's (I think at least one of them was a IIc) in the 1st grade pod, and the only program I remember from there was Quilting Bee.
Just love this. I'm excited of what other LGR hidden goodies we're gonna get videos about.. Cleaning and reorganising stuff always brings up things we forget we had and I love that, that feeling produced a video from LGR. :D
Edit: I also loved that he knew what blew up like right away. That is just experience. xD
Wonderful Apple II collection. Some of my earliest gaming experiences were on the Apple IIe. I love the old PCs and DOS gaming as you do but nice to see your keen interest in these Apple classics! Nostalgic green monochrome monitor lol had one of those!
Number Munchers and Oregon Trail.
Oregon trail was the #1 game in second grade. Spell a vator, Jenny's Journeys, odell lake...
The original Apple II was a yard sale find in 2017 for $5 - it was totally chance. I had asked the person if they had any old computers for sale and she said her neighbor brought one over to put in the sale and was in the garage behind her. Walked in to take a look, boom Apple II with a Disk II drive. She had no idea if it worked (nor did I) and at that time, I knew next to nothing about them (other than having used them back in school a bit), didn't even know there were different Apple II models. Brought it home, did a little testing - it worked, somewhat, initially booting the one disk that was left in the drive that had some games on it. Posted about finding it on the Twitters and LGR mentioned he had been looking for one for a long time. Being a fan and not really, at the time, wanting to get into Apple II, I took him up on the offer. Sadly, I didn't get the history on the machine prior to the yard sale, the owner wasn't there to speak to.
Thanks for sharing the history of this Apple II machine! I’m sure LGR is enjoying picking it up from you, and it’s good to see an old apple II find a good home especially with someone like LGR, because of your offer to sell the machine to LGR, we all get to enjoy it!
The Apple II you so graciously saved from that yard sale, has been given a second chance at life, being shared with the world through LGR’s videos!
Thank you very much, kind sir/madam! You’re a hero of retro tech, saviour of neglected machines, and generous supporter of the channel!
I tip my hat to you!
The IIGS keyboard is still amazing to use, even though the compact size and lack of any borders/edges to rest a hand or finger takes some getting used to. Love the sound and feel, and they take a pounding for decades with no issues.
When you finally get settled down, you may want to adjust the V.Linearity on the Monitor III (Hopefully it has one). Listing the catalog really shows how stretched out the characters at the top are compared to the squished ones at the bottom.
Never had the chance to use these sorts of machines but can I just say, THE SOUNDS! I love how these machines sound, even the creaky bits!
The IIe with a Monitor III is one of the ultimate computer rigs to me. My dad bought basically this exact setup in '83 for serious business (VisiCalc!) and a few years, later once he switched to a PC, he handed it off to us kids. Such good memories!
YES Love the Lost joke at 20:16, The Hatch terminal was the main reason I got interested in vintage computers!
I am totally down for “here’s some computers, lets talk about them”
Apple 2e was my first machine when I was 9 years old. It got me into a lifetime of computers, tech and building PC's. Its a shame I have no idea what happened to it all these decades later. This video brought back some memories, especially the sounds when you turned it on. I had not thought about that in many years. Good stuff!
Back in the 5th grade (1995) my teacher Mr. Rice was an avid computer collector and his class had 30 apple IIs, one for each student to learn computer stuff. He allegedly had over a hundred stored in his garage. I've always had a soft spot for the apple II as it was the first computer I leaned how to program on along with the C64.
Mr. Rice sounds awesome
Wow! Score on the quality of the machine and the packing. It's like getting a museum piece.
I did notice something, and I'm not sure if it was your camera angle causing an illusion or not. But on the monitor III, it looks as if the scan lines are further apart near the top of the screen, gradually getting closer together as you travel down the screen.
It's been years since I worked on those old CRT's, but I think the adjustment is called 'linearity'. It might even be one of those pots on the back.
I liked those mesh anti-glare screens. As Mel would say, shiny!
Yeah, the linearity definitely needs adjusting. Don't know about that monitor in particular, but for some, the linearity adjustment was a coil you'd use a plastic hexagonal tool to adjust.
love this content Clint! don't worry about that it feels low effort to you. its not! you just pumped out a 36 min video with amazing machines. really enjoyed it. thank you!
I like how there's just a single disk the school copied a bunch of programs onto. I suspect that's just how they did site licensing back then: you'd buy one copy and you were allowed to make a certain number of duplicates, which you'd have to supply your own blanks for, but it was still cheaper than buying a whole boxed copy for every machine in the lab. Our school had a bigger floppy budget than wherever this came from; each program got its own disk. Funnily enough I don't remember ever seeing _Oregon Trail_ in action until they kitted out the lab with Windows 98 PCs and moved the Apples into the classrooms for us to play with during study hall. There were just so many other things to do that were no doubt considered more educational. Number Munchers, Math Shop, Typing Tutor...
P.S. Apple had a kit to convert earlier //e's to the Enhanced model. AsI recall, it's four chips. The kit had a 65C02, a new character ROM, a new system ROM (which reintroduced the ! assembler from the original Apple ][, which was dropped in the ][+ ), and a fourth chip (forget which one). And, of course, the "Enhanced" sticker for the power LED on the keyboard 😂 The 65C02 had 10 new assembly instructions compared to the 6502, and it also dropped a few undocumented instructions that were in the original MOS 6502.
Not only does the Apple ][gs look like a Mac on the outside, it has a GUI that looks very much like the MacOS contemporary with it, but smoother and in color. Despite the fact the 65816 being completely gimped for clock speed, the ][gs runs rings around the 1986 Macs.
I remember seeing the TRS-80 in Radio Shack when I was kid and while it looked neat, all I cared about as a kid was the Atari 2600.
It was the Apple IIe in school that opened my eyes to computers and I have loved computers since.
Our middle school had Apple IIc(s) in the computer lab, in the early 80s, and one of my neighbors had an Apple II Plus. Brings back a lot of memories.
Apple IIe was the first computer I ever laid eyes on. We played good ol' Oregon Trail and there was that game where you had to get the chicken, fox, and grain across a river. I'm sure there was some educational stuff we did, too.. 😋
Nice one Clint!
I had an Apple II+ once (with the "Monitor ///" and double 5 ¼" drives)... had tons of fun tinkering with it. I too remember encountering keyboard issues. Brings back memories!
LGR is the best TH-cam channel! 👍
With the exception of the filter caps, Apple 2 PSUs are pretty solid. And welcome to early IIe ownership. I bought the same type back in the day, after making the case that I should spend "college money" from the grandparents early.
I just came to say that I found your channel yesterday while I was installing an old American Online 8.0 into my computer and I love your content. I love how passionate you are about old tech and the way you get so excited! It is awesome! I am so happy to have found your channel
Oh nice! Hope you continue to enjoy the videos, I've got some pretty good ones on AOL :)
@@LGR That one you did where you were IMing a person who wanted their cigarette lit. That's a classic.
I was homeless at the time when you uploaded that video and I remember it well as I was doing the same thing by making my own AOL account lol.
The Apple II line was the one I was raised on in grade school! loved how much more that the IIGS could do, for sure! I forget how I learned but I discovered the secret menu that let you change the colors and the octave the start tone played at! OMG the OG BASIC version of Oregon Trail I haven't seen that version in *years* ... was cool to see while that power supply part lasted, hoping it's not too much trouble to replace or remove entirely (as you were saying) but this was fun to watch!!
My first exposure to the Apple IIe was in 1st Grade in 1988/1989. It was all about Number Munchers, Oregon Trail, and Odell Lake. Managed to finally buy one that will also undergo the restorative works!
I think this was the setup of the computer in The Swan in lost. they definitely used a Monitor 3 and some form of Apple 2. I always loved that choice of computer in that show.
Great video! IIe was def the computers we had in elementary school - my Dad worked for Martin Marietta which was an Apple shop and had a decent employee discount. So we had at home the IIgs, then a Mac IIci, then a Radius branded PowerMac clone believe it or not. Those carried me through the 90s more or less til my first Windows PC in college.
Great video LGR. Don't stress too much about content right now, get yourself settled. Your videos are and will always be worth waiting for. Thanks for sharing 😊
12:50 I am now imagining a young Clint sitting in school at his computer class, typing up and printing a page full of the word "farts." And getting a stern look from the teachers. After which he vowed that every time he tested out a new computer, keyboard or word processing type thing, he would do so using the word "farts."
And thus a legend was born.
I really wish there was more good Apple IIGS content out there! Its such a beautiful computer. I know that you have an old review of it and its a good video. I just want more!
"Natural point to stop to video" - I got a huge laugh out of that :D
My parents bought a //gs when they came out inm 1986 (it was a Woz edition). I was in 6th grade at the time and put many hours on it between typing school papers in AppleWorks to print on the ImageWriter II, connecting to dialup BBSs with the DataLink 1200 internal modem or playing games on it.
Later added an 85 MB external hard drive and a SCSI controller card.
My folks used the computer a little bit but it sat dormant once I went off to college (I had bought a used Mac Portable). I did use the //gs on occasion when I came home on the weekend. I would dial into the college there and then Telnet into the systems at the college I attended.
Once I got married and moved out in 1999, the //gs gathered dust. Eventually it was landfilled (this was before the hazards were so well known or any thought was given to their collectability).
Those Disk ][ drives give me more nostalgia tingles than anything else here. They had a great solid feel, weight, wonderful texture and that latch clicking into place… 🥰
The Apple //e was the very first computer I had. I learned to read while using that old cabbage colored screen and spent my summer one year catching Carmen Sandiego with the aid of a pretty outdated almanac. I learned the words SYNTAX ERROR courtesy of that machine.
Thanks for reminding me to open my woz signed (with a sharpie, at classic gaming expo 2003, not silk screened) IIGS on the shelf and clip out the battery. No leaking! Phew.
When I was in high school, we had a craft room with an Apple computer running the Kid Pix program. Every time we had crafts, one student was allowed to work on the Apple computer and other students to work on their craft project.
Did your class have a "no explosive eraser" policy or did they let kids use it?
I absolutely love the Apple IIgs case, one of the best Apple cases ever designed (at least visually).
Back in the day... we had several Apple II in our High School, almost in every class. We usually played games on them when the teacher wasn't looking, good old memories lol.
love the hints of green in the designs. it goes with the text on the monitor 3 perfectly. pretty cool.
I'll have to show this to my little sister (now 50); she remembers using Apple 2e when she was in school in the late 80s. Mind you, I was 15 when the original Apple 2 premiered, and the closest thing my high school had to a keyboard were both manual and electric typewriters :) But this video really helped me; I have had a portable computer I've had for a good 15 years, and now I know it's a clone Apple IIe. Finding that out I can now look for an AC adapter to see if it works :). Thanks for the videos over the years!
I always love the chill jazz playing in the background. With your soft voice and the nice jazz, listening to computer stuff is relaxing. Really relaxing. Like just chillin at a coffee shop while people chat.
The one Apple I wouldn't mind having is that Apple IIgs! Not an Apple fan at all, except the older classics from them. The IIgs is really the one I am looking for and am so glad you have one to show off!
Best of all it's probably Mac compatible. I'm pretty sure you could plug in a serial port MIDI interface into a IIgs.
The mystery card in the Apple II+ is probably indeed an 80-column card. Probably a clone of the Videx VideoTerm, the most popular solution at the time. The male RCA F-Type probably goes into the video out on the back of the Apple II+, and the female one connects to a normal male-to-male cable leading to your monitor. Hook it up and verify that video passes through normally, then type PR#n at a BASIC command prompt (where n is the number of the slot you have it installed in...#3 is a popular choice) and see if it overrides the video and switches to 80-column text or not. Use PR#0 to switch back to 40-column text.- If you get nothing, maybe I got the cables backwards. If you still get nothing, it might not work, or there might be some other fine tuning you need to do. Look up a manual online for the Videx VideoTerm and try a few of the things they suggest.
Upvote for Videx. I used to have a whole box of those in the 90's. I really should have kept all that stuff. Dad worked at Videx in little Corvallis, Oregon, so I had lots of II and early Mac stuff growing up.
Ya know, I didn't mind the echoey room,or the surface level discussion of the Apple II's, your videos in general are just awesome to watch
Edit: I heard that pop and was like "Uh oh,that can't be good" glad it wasn't worse
O yeah the Apple //e was ahuge part of my childhood well into middle school in the 90's as it was also one of the first computers I ever used after the Commodore Vic-20, starting in 5 year old kindergarten in 86, and soon after I got my first Commodore 64, in mid 86, and then in early 87, my uncle gave me an Apple //e with dual disk drives, epson dot matrix printer, a pair of SunTac, joysticks, an official Apple Joystick, and a wack ton of software on floppies as he was moving over the the IBM PC for his work, and no longer needed the Apple //e, and just too many great games to list between the Apple //e, & Commodore 64/128(got one in late 88after the PSU took out my C64). So thanks for this little trip down memory lane. 👍🏻😊
Highest of thumbs up LGR. Before my uncle let us borrow his C64, my first experiences in computing were on a friends Apple 2e. Mostly I just watched while he drove, but every once in a while I'd get a chance to use it. I remember it felt magical. Brings back a lot of memories of Legacy of the Ancients and Karateka.
I Love it when LGR say's In terms of the rear end situation , it's looking good about an old apple Computer :) QC
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21:10 I can still remember as a kid my unboxing of my brand new Apple IIe system that was purchased new in June 1984, talk about a kid in a candy store! Basically like your setup, unit, 80col/mem card, two 5-1/4 drives, monitor iii, stand. It was so fun. Also go a Epson FX80 printer, went through a lot of ribbons with that printer. Then the upgrade to an Apple IIc that I turned into a fully portable unit with battery, LCD snap on display, 800kb 3.5" floppies. Those were the days! Keep up the good work sir! 👍😎🍺
I had my Osborne 1 blow a filter cap, and holy crap to the third degree it let out a lot of death smoke and to this day the computer can still emit a whiff occasionally when it's running. I'm doubtful it'll ever fully go away
Glad to see you break out the Apple II stuff for this. I did notice the Monitor III has a bit of a vertical linearity issue but at least that shouldn't be a major issue to fix.
The IIc will forever be my fav Apple ll. I have the 3rd revision with the rarely used memory expansion slot. I'll never let it go.
To me it is the iconic version of Apple II. I knew the IIc before I knew the IIe even existed.
@@tetsujin_144 same. I got my IIc in 1999 in a box with random cables and power cords. The guy at the thrift store sold everything to me for a buck lol. This was in the early days of eBay before people listed anything vintage. Back then a lot of people didn't have computers let alone internet or digital camera. Listing something on eBay seemed intimidating for everyday folk back then. That was the best time to go computer collecting.
The Apple //e was the very first personal computer I ever used. My dad bought a used one off a guy who had upgraded to a Macintosh. This one came with that same Monitor /// and stand. My dad got a bunch of public domain software to use with the computer. Quite a bit of that software was buggy. Fixing the bugs in the programs written in Applesoft BASIC is what convinced me I wanted to be a computer programmer when I grew up.
I remember using the Apple IIe in about Kindergarten, Grade 1 and 2, then my school upgraded to the IIgs. The IIgs was my favorite. I have a lot of found memories of that machine. It wasn't until I was much, much older that we actually got a computer at home, which was a Compaq Presario Pentium machine.
I think the Bell and Howell branded ii stuff was usually bought by Education boards and departments as large bulk purchases.
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*The* *8-Bit* *Guy* showed on off on his channel once and did some sort of restoration to it. It had a hole cut out for an old fan mod and he filled it in.
Clint, young man, despite you just "threw" this together, it was awesome!!! I've always loved your channel, but seeing "baby Clint" reviewing "Stunts on PC" or something way back when, to now, it's amazing how you've grown and keep the charm we love. You take care of yoursef during the move, but CANNOT wait for more!!!!
Man this takes me back. The Apple IIe was my first computer in middle school. Learned some very remedial programming in BASIC back then, all of which evaporated from my memory many years ago.
It is like being back in highschool, the memories are awesome.
My very first computer experience was at school on an Apple IIe. Our computer lab had several, and we could play edutainment games like Oregon Trail, Speedway Math, and Number Munchers. We also learned very simple BASIC skills. Then a few years later I got an Apple IIe at home, before getting my first Windows machine a few years after that.
No complaints here for the 'filler' material. Always love to see some good ol' Apple IIs.
The Apple IIc was the computer they used to build the Thunder Road in 1985's Explorers. Love that keyboard sound and that movie.
A rifa cap once blew in a sewing machine of mine, making it run by itself, very exciting thing when you have youre hands around the needle.
What a blast from the past! (Literally if you watched to the end.) The original Apple ][ is the first home computer I ever used. My friend who lived down the street from me had one and it must have been 1981 or 82 which would have been around first grade. His dad got it from work, and it was set up on a milk crate in their living room, with a green screen monitor and a pair of Disk ][ drives. We spent so many hours sitting on the floor in front of that computer playing with basic, making moire patterns in graphics mode, playing text adventure games. We didn’t have much in terms of software but we made the best of what we had!
Clint, don't worry about the barebones filming, single table, echoy room....it's the back to your roots why we are here in the first place....Lazy Game Reviews. 😊
I was in High School, and did a co-op term at an Apple Education Demonstration Lab here in Ottawa at the Carleton Board of Education. I later built myself a clone Apple ][+, soldered it together myself. I had 3rd party floppy drives as well, made by Asuka. Unlike the Apple ][ floppies that wou'd "seek" track 0 to boot by running the drive head's stepper motor 34 times outward...no matter where on the disk the heads were at boot time, the Asuka drives had a little switch that was hit when it reached track 0, and caused the drive to ignore the remaining commands to continue stepping the head outwards. Made for a quicker and quieter boot. That Disk ][ head seeking trick is most of the reason why Apple ][ drives tend to go out of alignment, and some people I know who used their Apple][s a lot would actually drill a hole in the floppy case so they could stick a screwdriver in to turn the adjustment screw to align the head because it went out so frequently.
It looks funny how the II GS still has the notch out of the cards even though the enclosure is rectangular.
Apple provided an upgrade option to put a IIgs into a IIe case - so IIgs peripheral cards had to fit in the IIe case.