Exploring a PC Built by Bond, J. Bond - The 99¢ 386

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  • Checking out an early 90s J. Bond Computer Systems A333CD. It's your standard white box clone PC of the time, packing a 33MHz AMD 386, 8 megabytes of RAM, DOS 6.22 and Windows 3.11 and stuff! It also came with a nifty 250MB Colorado tape backup drive, so that's fun.
    ● LGR links:
    / lazygamereviews
    / lazygamereviews
    / lazygamereviews
    ● All background music licensed from:
    www.epidemicsound.com
    00:00 The 99 cent 386
    02:41 Components in the machine
    09:43 Sound Blaster install, power on
    10:47 The J. Bond company
    11:51 Windows 3.11 for Workgroups
    13:45 XTree Gold, autoexec.bat colors
    14:22 QIC tapes on the Colorado Jumbo 250
    18:31 Doom copied from tape backup
    20:19 Turbo CPU benchmark
    21:16 Test Drive III speed test
    22:19 The AMI BIOS setup
    23:00 Wolfenstein 3D
    24:01 007: James Bond - The Stealth Affair
    25:21 CD-Man
    25:52 A rambling outro of some kind
    #LGR #retro #computer #vintage #pc
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  • @Alec_Reaper
    @Alec_Reaper ปีที่แล้ว +192

    MI6 machine

    • @sinchrotron
      @sinchrotron ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why so?

    • @mysticmarble94
      @mysticmarble94 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@sinchrotron "" J Bond "" as in James Bond, the MI6 agent.

    • @codykyle511
      @codykyle511 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂

    • @ovejrp1
      @ovejrp1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It has license to kill!

    • @RSGCProductions
      @RSGCProductions 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@ovejrp1Thankfully it doesn't kill software. Just bad guys.

  • @5roundsrapid263
    @5roundsrapid263 ปีที่แล้ว +212

    My mom worked in a pharmacy in the ‘80s and ‘90s, and backed up records daily on a tape drive just like this. They took the tapes home every night.

    • @NoNameForNone
      @NoNameForNone ปีที่แล้ว +23

      My dad did the same, only once a week: take the tape home, check if it was correct and store it off-site. Bonus was we'd get a company sponsored tape drive which we could freely use for our own backups.

    • @squirlmy
      @squirlmy ปีที่แล้ว

      Wait... who is "they"??? Pharmacy owners? Managers? Pharmacist? The would be very much against HIPPA nowadays.

    • @mar4kl
      @mar4kl ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Back in the day, I did the same. I started off backing up on diskettes, but that got too time-consuming after a few years. Around then, I noticed an unused tape drive in my employer's computer "boneyard", and asked about it. They had outgrown it and replaced it with a newer model. It was perfect for my old 386 PC, so I took it home, installed it, and after a successful test, i got more tapes and started using them for backup. That drive used wider tapes, though, maybe DC 6150s. When I replaced that computer, I bought an Exabyte Eagle96 tape drive that store up to 3.2GB per tape, compressed. That drive looked a lot more like this Colorado 250 from the front. I thought I remembered the MC3000XL QIC-EXtra cartridges as longer than the 250MB QIC cartridges shown in the video, but after looking them up online to refresh my memory, I think maybe they were wider but were inserted sideways into the drive. In any case, I had 3 cartridges. One was in my desk at work, one in my carry bag, and one in the drive, and I would rotate them several times per week.

    • @_sabot
      @_sabot ปีที่แล้ว +13

      In my first company our sysop loved to mock the new trainees he got in his department. He told them the story that he got delivered fresh new backup tapes and because the manufacturer once fooled him in the past by sending tapes that didn't had the capacity they were labeled as, they should measure it. We had a long hallway in the building and he tasked them with taking the tape out, rolling it out and measure the length with a yardstick. So at least once a year if you saw a young poor guy on his knees with a yardstick in the hallway, everyone knew that Stefan had a new victim.

    • @zchen27
      @zchen27 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The servers my mom worked on in the mid-2000s still used them. Granted they were an university's servers and they don't tend to remove legacy stuff from administrative systems fast.

  • @jkody
    @jkody 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    It's insanity what the vintage market has turned into. In the late 90's and 2000's, you couldn't give an old 386/486 machine away. They were thrown away by the millions.

  • @TheRetu81
    @TheRetu81 ปีที่แล้ว +303

    I remember using J. Bond mouse driver in DOS. It was small enough to fit into the upper memory block, so it was ideal for freeing enough conventional memory for the more demanding games like Falcon 3.0.

    • @jishan6992
      @jishan6992 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      Installing a mouse driver to free up memory for games must've been quite a era. Now we just take everything for granted

    • @marblemunkey
      @marblemunkey ปีที่แล้ว +34

      ​@@jishan6992 It was a thing. You wound up with boot floppies matched with the game you wanted to play, with the specific arcane combination of TSR drivers and memory extender/expander required that specific game.

    • @jishan6992
      @jishan6992 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@marblemunkey the heck so you'd be switching out the entire OS everytime you wanted to play a game?

    • @SomeGuy_GRM
      @SomeGuy_GRM ปีที่แล้ว +35

      @@jishan6992 yeah, kinda. A basic DOS installation fits on a floppy disk. Some early PCs didn't even have a hard disk and ran entirely off of floppy.

    • @jishan6992
      @jishan6992 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@marblemunkey that's what I was wondering actually, I have seen ton of videos Retro computer and they always slide in a floppy to boot in to the OS. Also I have seen playing games that would come in multiple floppies, how did that work?

  • @KrzysztofCygan
    @KrzysztofCygan ปีที่แล้ว +61

    There is something about Win 3.11 Icons, windows style, etc. that I will never forget, always nostalgic about it. I also played a bit with OS/2 Warp, those were the golden days of computing.

  • @mpettengill1981
    @mpettengill1981 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Oh my - Wolf 3D with a PC speaker on a 386. So many hours of my youth spent on that.
    Relating to finding PCs, I was lucky enough to find the exact make and model of computer I had growing and was able to buy it last summer. An AST 386/25 SX. I had an ebay saved search and as soon as it came up I bought it for a not unreasonable buy-it-now price. It even came with the matching keyboard. I gave it a good cleaning and inspection when I it arrived and it everything worked as it should. I guess my point is while the online prices are not as good as they used to be, and true deals much harder to find, if you really want one or two machines for a collection it's still cheaper than a lot of hobbies :)

  • @stuckin2003
    @stuckin2003 ปีที่แล้ว +146

    that red and green DOS prompt styling is sick...wish I would have thought to try that back in the day!

    • @denniswoycheshen
      @denniswoycheshen ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I made the prompt brighter once. I totally forget how 10 year old me did it, but I had fun. :)

    • @editingsecrets
      @editingsecrets ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@denniswoycheshen High bit of the BIOS color code toggles partial or full intensity.

    • @asdfasdfasdfasdeff
      @asdfasdfasdfasdeff ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I remember loading ansi.sys and being able to do some really neat things with the prompt!

    • @mardus_ee
      @mardus_ee ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It was all in the MS-DOS Help program about config . sys, ansi . sys, and autoexec . bat. I used to put a clock on the command line (nice way to check the time with just the Return key), change text color to dark cyan, and the newline contained the DOS prompt.
      It was possible to change what the default commands did, so, that DIR sorted all the files right - folders first, sort by extension, sort by name, and show by page, if there were more files that wouldn't fit in one screen.

    • @denniswoycheshen
      @denniswoycheshen ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mardus_ee wow, that sounds like something that I really missed. I was about 7 or 8 when I started messing with computers so reading the documents wasn't exactly what I wanted to do, or could fully understand. So you could basically customize dos to your liking? I never thought it was even capable of such things. Computers are weird. :)

  • @gstcomputing65
    @gstcomputing65 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    You are so right about vintage computer price inflation. In early 2007, I bought a working Tandy 1000 HX with a CM-11 monitor and manuals for $50. You will pay well over $500 for that today.

    • @drg5352
      @drg5352 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I used to go through flea markets ni the late 90's/early 2000.
      I bought 486 and P1 systems for $10-20. C128 for $20. I think the most expensive was a P1 Win95 laptop that worked, and had SimCity 2000 installed.
      I regret not buying up everything I found back then.

    • @dyl9013
      @dyl9013 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I don't remember any details or specs because I was like 13 but I remember buying a Windows 98 PC with a keyboard, mouse and even a monitor for like $30. It had a lot of Bible and chess software on it

    • @CherryPixelBun
      @CherryPixelBun ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@dyl9013 I wish I could have gotten my WIn98 PC for that price. Thankfully I paid under $100 still for what's basically a Pentium II machine but it's a 2006 tiny office PC that was built with legacy hardware/software in mind so it's got all the ports and all the drivers for using in Windows 98

    • @offspringfan89
      @offspringfan89 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I call this inflation "LGR tax" 😅.

    • @mima85
      @mima85 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I saved a bunch of such systems from the trash in the 00ies, still having them in my collection. Glad I did that back then, when those old PCs were just... well, old PCs, good only for the recycler. In absolutely NO. F**IN'. WAY. I would spend the amounts of money required today for a 386, 486 or a Pentium machine.

  • @Catastropheshe
    @Catastropheshe ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "Let's look at this " type of video is one of my favorite type of video 😂😂😂

  • @kespeth2
    @kespeth2 ปีที่แล้ว +130

    Looks like you won Ebay on this one...what a steal! I guess the "not in working condition" scared everyone else off.

    • @rommix0
      @rommix0 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      And you'd be surprised how many of those "not working/untested" items still work.

    • @HamburgerAmy
      @HamburgerAmy ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@rommix0 RETROPC hardware channel kinda shows you the odds of getting "not working" parts that end up working or are salvageable... i'd land it at ~75% hardware he buys

    • @GeorgeVCohea-dw7ou
      @GeorgeVCohea-dw7ou ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@rommix0
      It's mostly sellers who want to get rid of something but don't have the wherewithal for testing ancient and unpredictable hardware and/or patience for eBay red tape.

    • @Grak70
      @Grak70 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@rommix0very true. I got a professional ThermoFischer hotplate and stirrer that retailed new for well over $700 from a guy who said it didn’t work for $100. Turns out he just didn’t know how to turn it on and it was pretty much fully functional.

    • @renakunisaki
      @renakunisaki ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Sometimes the ones that are actually not working only need a simple repair. I got a vacuum robot that retails for $1000, for $50, that just needed one transistor replaced.

  • @BrassicGamer
    @BrassicGamer ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Cut my finger on a 1993 PC yesterday - good times! I, too, acquired a 99p 386 from eBay around the same time. It required a 220mi round trip, however, but I still have that machine and love it. My dad disposed of our first PC (also a 386) so this was the perfect replacement. Love going back to it sometimes because of the simplicity of the games. A more innocent time.

  • @retropuffer2986
    @retropuffer2986 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    I remember the 386 days because my PC friends were all in on building PCs rather than buying pre-built. They were building 386 VGA systems by the late 80s which put all us 68K users on notice!

    • @MrDuncl
      @MrDuncl ปีที่แล้ว +7

      My first desktop PC (I had a Toshiba T3100 laptop with Gas Plasma display before that) was a no name 386 motherboard etc in an IBM PC XT case.

    • @Kalvinjj
      @Kalvinjj ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Sounds like the equivalent of today's PC builders showing off their watercooled Threadripper RTX 4090 monsters

    • @psycadelicrash2695
      @psycadelicrash2695 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Kalvinjj price wise, these rigs are not too far off considering their retail price

  • @stevesether
    @stevesether ปีที่แล้ว +24

    From circa 1998 to around 2003 I ran a little AMD 386-40 on Linux with 32 megabytes memory. It was connected to the internet via DSL and ran my mailserver and a nameserver for my domain. This was LONG before anyone offered free nameserver service, or even email service for your domains, so you had to DIY or pay quite a lot. I was pretty proud of the thing being able to do all that on a machine that was pretty slow and obsolete for the early 2000s.
    Finally had to retire it because of the spam problem. I wanted to run some spam filtering software, but the little 386 was vastly under-powered. I hesitated getting rid of it because it held a lot of nostalgia even then, but thought "well... if I really want one of these things again, I can just pick one up cheap at a thrift store".
    20 years later and it would have been worth several hundred bucks I guess. Oh well.. I think I came out ahead not having to drag it around and store it somewhere for the past 20 years. But those 386s were some of the first computers that could do real tasks.

    • @LionWithTheLamb
      @LionWithTheLamb 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I had a DEC Digital Desktop with a 40Mhz 386, 256KB Cache, 1MB VESA VGA, and 32MB Memory. It was gave to me free around 1999. It must have cost a fortune when it was new. It was upgraded to 32MB (obviously), a 33.6Kbps ISA Modem, 16x IDE CD-ROM, and a 8.6GB IDE HDD using Western Digital EZ-Drive. It had Windows 95 on it. I gave it to my Dad so he could try out this "computer stuff" without buying a new one. He just threw it away I guess when he bought a new PC.

    • @stevesether
      @stevesether 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LionWithTheLamb I'm amazed it'd run windows 95. Looks like it met minimum requirements.

  • @PowerSynopsis
    @PowerSynopsis ปีที่แล้ว +11

    That shirt is somethin' else, man. Pure style.

  • @lyianx
    @lyianx ปีที่แล้ว +7

    14:50 OMG.. My dad had a tape drive that i used frequently as well. I INSTANTLY remembered the exact noise the drive made when you inserted it in, each tone shift as it read the tape lol. Brings me back. (My dad's drive was external, connected though the parallel port and had a pass-though for the printer).

  • @fensoxx
    @fensoxx ปีที่แล้ว +14

    There is something about tape drives that lent me a sense of ease. Used to backup tons of really important machines to LTO tape. You rotate through your tapes, and the off-day tapes are on a shelf somewhere. And you know. You absolutely know. That if the shit hits the fan, you’ve got like 6 tape backups ready to go and one of them has got to work.

  • @andymate2006
    @andymate2006 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    That tape drive brings back memories when I was in high school. They used to backup their network storage onto one of those and the computers used to run Novel Netware with another program called OASIS. At the end of the day I would see the Librarian insert a tape and go into some sort of backup software and you would hear the exact same noises that tape drive did.

  • @Arbiter099
    @Arbiter099 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The blood toll to engage the machine spirit must be paid.

  • @KevinTan
    @KevinTan ปีที่แล้ว +78

    it's been a while since i watched an LGR vid, time to binge them all. i do miss those oregon trail device vids and ms dos games feature

    • @LGR
      @LGR  ปีที่แล้ว +56

      I've got another channel now called LGR Blerbs that contains that type of content, if you haven't seen :) th-cam.com/video/3xyFtnKh-rE/w-d-xo.html

    • @KevinTan
      @KevinTan ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@LGR woooah thank you! i also miss lgr food

    • @TheLegoPerson
      @TheLegoPerson ปีที่แล้ว +25

      ​@@KevinTan @LGR yesssss we all miss LGR Foods

    • @modernscholar02
      @modernscholar02 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      ​@kibin ☻「キビン」 LGR food is an amazing channel and I miss content from there greatly.

    • @Lauty3590
      @Lauty3590 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@modernscholar02 same! I've tried a couple of LGR's recipes and they were fantastic, please bring it back Clint!

  • @pokehybridtrainer
    @pokehybridtrainer ปีที่แล้ว +9

    That shirt you're wearing seems vintage itself, woah. Such a chill vibe to this video, and it's a nice little story from the nice find to exploring it.

  • @editingsecrets
    @editingsecrets ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just realized that what I should have done in high school in the late 1980s was send postcards to all the doctors, accountants etc in town: "I'm a high school student who knows computers. I'll talk with you to find out what you need, recommend the components, and come by your office after school or on the weekend to build it for $100 per machine." Instead of making ten bucks an hour at a job, I could've done five of these a week and made a cool $2k a month. Thanks, brain, for pointing this out to me 35 years too late!

  • @ESDI80
    @ESDI80 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The 386DX is a very capable system. I put together a 386DX-33 system a while back and tossed in a 387DX math co-pro. SimCity 2000 ran great on it since SimCity 2000 will benifit form the 387.. Those tapes drives are very interesting. One of the common faults I've found on them is the rubber drive wheel inside the drive will turn to mush. I've been successful in replacing the rubber drive wheel with a pair of O-Rings that I glued to the metal shaft the original rubber wheel was attached too. The tapes if properly stored in a climate controlled area seem to hold up well. If not, then the drive belt inside the cartridge tends to snap leaving a huge mess like your tape did when the drive ate it. The other thing is to flow the driver out if not used for along time. The drive uses optical sensors to detect the start and end position of the tape. If those sensors get clogged the tape will unspool inside the cartridge. I have a few PCs have these drives and they work well. My go to these days is the external Zip drive, or an external SCSI hard drive for backing up old PCs. Best is installing a NIC and attaching to a Samba server running on Linux. 🙂

  • @Dawwwg
    @Dawwwg ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Oh man, what a flashback, my (own) first PC was a AMD 386 DX40 clone machine with a J-Bond motherboard and also 8MB, an ET4000 GPU, same HDD large PC speaker and sharp case edges 😂 I recall replacing the HDD with a 810MB one, which doubled de transfer-rate to ~1.0MB per second !

  • @IAmNotAFunguy
    @IAmNotAFunguy ปีที่แล้ว +9

    QIC tape deserves a review/retrospective from Techmoan.

  • @MegaTerryNutkins
    @MegaTerryNutkins ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I've scored precisely 2 items for 99p start bids - a collection only Zenith 8088 laptop and a P3 Fujitsu Lifebook S series ultraportable. Surprisingly the seller actually posted the Lifebook.

  • @hysel1234
    @hysel1234 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I used the HP Colorado tape solution using an external enclosure connected to an LPT1 port. Those were the days :)

    • @MrDuncl
      @MrDuncl ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We had the same at work after I suggested they bought it.

  • @ATomRileyA
    @ATomRileyA ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Brings back lots of memories, also cutting your finger is part of the experience lol. I remember looking at those tape drives and wanting one, a friend of my dads had one of those and also some bigger server type tape drives always thought they were cool but way out of my price range.
    Reminds me that a relative of mine tipped me off to a office/factory that was being cleared out at had a hundred or so of computers like that, including 286's and a bunch of other big cards for driving cnc machines, i took a few and wanted to take all of them but had no where to store them, wish i had now and also a schools worth of bbc micros and Acorn Archimedes that i could not take either but tried to find homes for most of them.

  • @TheMegaross91
    @TheMegaross91 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Honestly I like the generic random company pc's more than the big brand ones because that's what we had for years.
    My old man worked crazy overtime to buy us our first PC and it was from some local company. For it's time it was a decent machine too, weird spec if I look back at it now though...

  • @dmhendricks
    @dmhendricks 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The sound of that Colorado drive really takes me back. I owned the 250MB model in the 90s and used it regularly.

  • @paulrobertmarino7623
    @paulrobertmarino7623 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I had one of those Colorado 250Mb drives it's actually was commonly referred to at the time as an "ftape" drive in other words it actually can run off a floppy controller as a third drive. It's actually still supported on Linux and was still supported by Windows 2000 when i retired mine. They also had an external version which ran off of a parallel port. In fact mine was originally an external drive that I pulled out of the controller later and hooked up to my floppy controller because it was much faster that way.

  • @Trusteft
    @Trusteft ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Having Windows 3.11 on PCs in the early 90s was quite common from what I remember/experienced back then. The reason was that it was the version that was mostly "pirated".
    I am not saying that that is the case with this PC. Nor that it was my case *cough* *cough*.
    Good video.

    • @St0rmcrash
      @St0rmcrash ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I've also read that after a certain point pretty much all PCs shipped with Workgroups 3.11 regardless of networking because it had way faster/better hard drive access. Basically 3.11 had 32 bit file access in protected mode and no longer had to slow down and drop to DOS to access the disc

    • @MrDuncl
      @MrDuncl ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The nickname was Windows for Warehouses as it was a slow seller. It could easily had been discounted down to the same price as normal Windows.

  • @ns219000
    @ns219000 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My grandpa had TONS of those backup tapes.
    And that XTREE GOLD flash screen- man, good memories of some good times!

    • @kingneutron1
      @kingneutron1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Xtree Pro Gold was the best back in the day for DOS. Then came Norton Commander, Ztree Bold, and Midnight Commander for *NIX

  • @autingo6583
    @autingo6583 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    prices for those tape streamers fell quickly like with all computer-related stuff. by 1994 qic-80 120mb tapes had become the medium of choice for pc software piracy on our schoolyard. it took until 1997 that the first few folks got some of those early consumer-grade cd-writers. these happy few were very much into making music, had earned quite a bit of money with their hobby and were of course also very keen on burning their own music with the shiny new gear. because of these lucky circumstances we were happy to skip zip drives altogether.

    • @unbearifiedbear1885
      @unbearifiedbear1885 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was one of 2 people in my school with a CD-RW drive in '98
      Not only did it make me instantly popular with *everyone;* it also made me a healthy income for a 14yo 😂❤

  • @heffe2001
    @heffe2001 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I seem to remember there was a piece of software that allowed you to use those old QIC tape drives as a drive letter in dos, allowing you to acces them as any other disk type device, but for the life of me can't remember what it was called.
    I loved these old white/beige boxes back in the day, I worked at several local PC builders back between about '88 to sometime around '00.. I probably built several thousand clones during that time. I remember one Christmas I had a bench that was stacked 10 cases deep, putting each piece in each one assembly-line style. I built 'em way faster than the other guys at that place, lol.

  • @Markimark151
    @Markimark151 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You’re so lucky to get that computer for about a dollar! Because scalpers and retro computer collectors have jacked up the prices for many retro computers even ones from the early 2000s! Like a non-working Dell Dimension is sold for $100! Because it’s loaded with multiple disk drives and a Zip drive!

    • @Wassenhoven420
      @Wassenhoven420 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      at some point the prices have to start going up for people to justify holding onto these things. They are getting old enough now that people are only going to have them if they seek them out for purchase (no garage sales or give aways). The time of people dumping off that old computer in their closet (of these varieties) is coming to an end.

    • @Markimark151
      @Markimark151 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Wassenhoven420 but this has to stop skyrocketing, I don’t think a working retro computer should be worth as much as a modern brand new computer like close to $1000! Some of the unique computer parts are worth something, but hundreds for non-working computers feels kind of wrong, it’s like selling a broken NES or Commodore 64 for hundreds!

  • @animalyze7120
    @animalyze7120 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    486 ran these games well even without the Math Co processor, but you really needed it on the 386 models. While not marketed for gaming the MathCo did show a noticeable improvement. Love these videos!

    • @guerrillaradio9953
      @guerrillaradio9953 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Had a 386sx25 and can confirm! The 80387 made a noticeable difference on mine, even though I had 12mb of RAM. Really sped up Indy Car Racing, Doom I, actually allowed me to sort of run Doom II, and Jetfighter never looked better 😌

    • @si4632
      @si4632 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      nonsense doom didnt even use FPU @@guerrillaradio9953

    • @si4632
      @si4632 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      probably the extra cache inside the 486 that made all the difference

  • @joncarter3761
    @joncarter3761 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Ah man that Tseng ET4000 reminds me of my first PC, it was a 486/33 with one and I used to play Duke Nukem 3D with the smallest screen area running like a slideshow on it! It wasn't until I upgraded to a Pentium I could finally run the game in 240p with 30ish fps!

  • @fhwolthuis
    @fhwolthuis ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Nice machine. It might nog look like much, but we've got to remember that these things were pretty expensive for most people back in the day, and I'm sure the first owner was very happy with it.

    • @TeaAndTankControls
      @TeaAndTankControls ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Definitely. When we got our first PC at home (I think a 386 or so) the choice was between the PC and a car, because they cost about the same.

    • @SilverJackLeg
      @SilverJackLeg ปีที่แล้ว +4

      True, the when I looked for my first PC, the 286-12MHz was the main thing, like a middle ground. If you couldn't make it, there were some XT's 4,77MHz. There was also a 286-16MHz (NEAT) for a solid amount more. And there were first 386 machines, with practically unreachable prices. And all that with still monochrome monitor. More ofter than not, it was 286 with color EGA or 386 with monochrome option. But not both.

  • @needfortweed8734
    @needfortweed8734 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Oh... this brings me back. The whole setup with a tape drive and a SB Pro 2 on a 386. 33sx though. I also had 8 megs of Ram. The only other differences would be a 1mb Cirrus Logic video card and an AST case. A big one at that.
    Wolfenstein was one of the games I played the most, but CD-man was also played every now and then. The tape deck was because it was much cheaper to get a tape than a HD when I ran out of space. We did also have "contacts" that could supply us with new games with doubtful legality. A tape was excellent storage for money,,,

  • @weaklid
    @weaklid ปีที่แล้ว +10

    LGR not using spaces in the DOS command line causes me an unreasonable amount of agitation. 😂

  • @TheBrokenTech
    @TheBrokenTech ปีที่แล้ว +6

    That would have been quite the high rolling machine in its day. My very first PC build was extremely similar, but I bought as much of it used or cheap as I could in 1993, and it was still well over a grand in 1993 money. My 4mb or ram was $100/mb, 540mb HDD was $1/mb, and I think I paid $250 for my AMD 386DX40, on a board, with a Cyrix co-processor and that exact video card (but with half the ram). I do not miss the hardware prices of that time. Without ever having anything genuinely high performance and always doing it on a budget, I think I spent about 10 grand on PC "things" in the '90s.

    • @MrDuncl
      @MrDuncl ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I recall ringing a friend from a pay phone at the Computer Shopper show at Olympia. "Hey Roberts. They've got 4MByte SIMS for only £100. Do you want me to get you one" Of course he did.

    • @TheBrokenTech
      @TheBrokenTech ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MrDuncl I do miss those computer shows. The 540mb drive I mentioned above came from one as did my first few cases, bulk packs of floppy discs, lots of cables and assorted bits...
      It was like internet shopping before the internet. 😆

  • @rommix0
    @rommix0 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love these kind of videos.

    • @LGR
      @LGR  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Happy to hear!

  • @iRedMCYT
    @iRedMCYT หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The thing seems very holiday focused. The DOS prompt is Christmas, and the BIOS is Halloween!

  • @heikkint
    @heikkint ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Man i love that red switch and the Ka-chunk sound they make. And watching that Tape drive do it's thing is just bliss.

  • @erniemiller1953
    @erniemiller1953 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I sold Windows For Workgroups when it came out in 1992. We called lots of research businesses, and sold a lot of them to people using PCs without networking. This was because WFWG was the first personal PC 32-bit Windows operating system and we told them, as we were directed by Microsoft, that because it was 32-bit instead of 16-bit.

  • @mysterionplays1621
    @mysterionplays1621 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think our family owned a computer like this back in the day. I always pressed the power switch on the back to turn it off when it was bed time.

  • @AlexBlues
    @AlexBlues ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Friend I am from that time, and reminded me of fantastic things, not that I have stopped using, today I still use, but the memories that when I started the initial septup my freedom started too! Cool thanks!
    From Brazil.

  • @TerminallyNerdy
    @TerminallyNerdy ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Endlessly fascinated by these vids Clint. Keep up the great work!

  • @ClassicGameSessions
    @ClassicGameSessions ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That nostalgic time of the 386 days was awesome. Fun times watching Clint on this one, some solids games too!

  • @johnclemens1338
    @johnclemens1338 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Oh wow, this is nearly exactly the generic system my dad bought the family around 1993 from a local computer shop, right down to the amd dx33 and colorado tape drive.. and that christmas we got a SB pro 2 w/ sb cdrom. Had an Oak OTI-O77 graphics card in it.
    Why do I remember the hardware so well? Because after my dad upgraded the family system to a pentium, he gave this one to me, and I put this new thing called Linux on it that I'd heard about during my HS internship that *came with a free C compiler!*. One got intimately familiar with hardware on your system running Linux in those days. I still have the X11 custom modeline scars. Took overnight to compile a custom kernel. Good times.

  • @thewhyzer
    @thewhyzer ปีที่แล้ว +2

    500+MB HDD + 8MB RAM in a 386?? Our 386dx40 was only ~120MB SSD + 4MB RAM! It wasn't until we got a Pentium 100 a few years later that we had 8MB RAM (and an 800MB HDD).
    When I saw "007" I thought it would be Apogee's Secret Agent :)

  • @chriskalkman3815
    @chriskalkman3815 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That thing is in damn good shape. I just bought a Socket 362 motherboard from 2000 and I'm slowly working to build a Pentium III Windows 98 machine!

  • @nasabear
    @nasabear ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I had a Tseng Labs ET4000 in a 386 system. They were one of the first cards to offer 16-bit and 24-bit color.

    • @mycosys
      @mycosys ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Had an ET4000/W32p overclocked to 50MHz in an ol 486DX2-80 OC to 100. That thing was a bit blitting beast back in teh day

    • @TheBrokenTech
      @TheBrokenTech ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think I still do have my ET4000 stuffed into a P166 machine somewhere around here. 😆

    •  ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@mycosys what was the tseng 4000 original core clock?

  • @riverhill86
    @riverhill86 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Seeing that tapedrive in action was nice, thanks for a great video once again

  • @AdamIsUrqed
    @AdamIsUrqed ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bond: "Do you expect me to talk?"
    Goldfinger: "No, Mr Bond, I expect you to DOS!"

  • @phazonclash
    @phazonclash ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey, the Aston Martin was a nice touch!

  • @DarkestHourAS
    @DarkestHourAS ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have been racking my brain to try to find the mahjong games my grandmother used to play... I'll be darned if finally you mentioning moraff finally clicked in my memory and let me find it. Thank you!

  • @mayw6571
    @mayw6571 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A great video to (re)build a retro PC to! I miss generic boxes like this actually, they were always interesting to see what was inside

  • @williambrown319
    @williambrown319 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You know the rules of the pre 2k machines. It will always require a blood sacrifice

  • @MrTPiatt
    @MrTPiatt ปีที่แล้ว

    I truly enjoy watching all your content that you thoroughly examine and admire in a nostalgic kind of awe and intrigue....I find your findings fascinating and entertaining. Thank you for sharing.

    • @ayior
      @ayior ปีที่แล้ว

      To think that in 10-20 years the devices we're writing these comments on will be seen in the same light

    • @MrTPiatt
      @MrTPiatt ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ayior IKR

  • @JohnCharb87
    @JohnCharb87 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Cool. I like these PC videos. Especially the ones from brands I've never heard of.

    • @editingsecrets
      @editingsecrets ปีที่แล้ว +1

      300 pages of 'em in Computer Shopper magazine back in the day.

  • @straightpipediesel
    @straightpipediesel ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The FCC ID was issued October 1991 to J Bond Computer Systems Corporation, out of Milpitas, California (just North of San Jose).

  • @Captain_Bollacks
    @Captain_Bollacks ปีที่แล้ว +1

    watching clint for a ages an my personal fav is the "greetings", i even do that myself in day to day life heh :) i went to fix a pc for a mate an did "greetings" and turned out he was a fellow follower :D, propa nerded out for hours :D

  • @destrozar
    @destrozar 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yet another awesome video. Thank you Clint.

  • @dave4shmups
    @dave4shmups ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well from Denver, Colorado I think you did a great job with this video! And it’s cool that Colorado Memory Systems was based up in Loveland!

  • @dwcinnc
    @dwcinnc ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My first build was one of these in 1991. I purchased parts from C&SO in Winston-Salem. A motherboard with an AMD 386 was around $300. I purchased more parts when I could afford them. My first HD for it was a 100 megabyte Seagate drive for $300. Your demonstration of Windows 3.1 brings back memories. I remember that AMI Pro was my favorite word processor.

  • @thesmokingcap
    @thesmokingcap ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love a good video on a random PC and seeing whats inside

  • @DavidWonn
    @DavidWonn ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm glad I collected my retro PCs at thrift stores and even as throwaways from past jobs when I did. You definitely scored a good deal on this one. Office 4.3 happens to be among my favorite versions, especially for Excel 5.0, which nearly identical to the 95 version.
    I even employed my own tricks for adding color in DOS by using QBasic rather than the ansi sys to save on conventional memory. Some tricks can be seen on my channel if interested.

  • @theEagleBeagle
    @theEagleBeagle ปีที่แล้ว +2

    everytime i see that Gateway monitor , i'm reminded of my time working for their outsourced techsupport call center in South Florida. and the silly customers who would break their tower somehow, give up on phone support and send BOTH the dang crt monitor(when we never asked for it) and tower into the service center... then I laugh at them.

    • @editingsecrets
      @editingsecrets ปีที่แล้ว

      You guys weren't all the neighbors of the cows in South Dakota??

  • @cccycling5835
    @cccycling5835 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My parents actually met while working at AMD in the early 80s so I grew up right in the heart of Silicon Valley. It’s always fun seeing the vintage computer manuals and recognizing the roads and streets. 93 W Montague in Milpitas is still a busy tech business center, I put gas there 😂

  • @InitialiseDisk
    @InitialiseDisk ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These are the videos I love. Just a simple demonstration.

  • @ErrorMessageNotFound
    @ErrorMessageNotFound ปีที่แล้ว +3

    There were tools back in the day that let you mount one of those tapes as a drive letter in dos and you could actually run stuff off of it. It was stupid slow obviously, but it did work.

  • @treespunk
    @treespunk ปีที่แล้ว +4

    13:20 Wow you unlocked a memory by mentioning Steve Moraff! I don't know if you would make a video on him and his games but I'd be all over it if you did. I only had demo versions of his games, like SphereJongg and Ultra Blast 95, but I nonetheless played them a whole lot as a kid. I really wanted the 'Jongg CD

    • @eDoc2020
      @eDoc2020 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Your comment reminds me of what I believe was a pinball game for Windows. If you closed it another window would pop up to buy the full version and it would proudly announce over the speakers that he was Steve Moraff.

    • @treespunk
      @treespunk ปีที่แล้ว

      @@eDoc2020 Hi! I'm Steve Moraff. Please purchase these games.

  • @kbtinkering
    @kbtinkering ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Clint, great video. In my latest video I actually built a custom 386 using that exact motherboard. Recognized it as soon as you opened the case. Cool to see the actual model of PC it must have come from.

  • @W4TRI
    @W4TRI ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That machine was still in the networking age of Twinax cable and BNC terminator plugs. Ahh the days when you could steal the end of line terminator plug at 3:30 on a Friday and go home early because IT left at 2.

  • @BrokeDad1
    @BrokeDad1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a few dozen old systems (laptops and desktops) stacked up in the back of my workshop along with various boxes of vintage hardware. I went through them about a year ago and they all worked then. I guess holding onto them for decades wasn't such a bad idea considering retro prices now.

  • @PrimarchBentley
    @PrimarchBentley 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Listening to that Colorado chugging away brings back memories in a way I didn't expect...

  • @asdfasdfasdfasdeff
    @asdfasdfasdfasdeff ปีที่แล้ว

    bro the sounds of that tape drive initializing brought back so many memories. i was a young kid that bought one to back up all the "warez" from the old bbs days. Of course once I found out that it was unable to compress data already compressed (duh) it really only backed up about 120mb i believe. i wish i kept the tapes... long gone.

  • @jean-marcandjoshua-petsjournal
    @jean-marcandjoshua-petsjournal ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The memories…… Dos 6.22 and Windows 3.11 for Workgroups….. the start of our DLL dilemmas today.

    • @rebokfleetfoot
      @rebokfleetfoot ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Workgroups was bundled to Windows to squash what we already had, GroupWise

    • @jean-marcandjoshua-petsjournal
      @jean-marcandjoshua-petsjournal ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rebokfleetfoot basically a duplicate. But a very unstable one.

  • @mazzyycat
    @mazzyycat ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's the same with ISA sound blaster cards here at least. Impossible to find and when they show up they're like 10x compared to 5-7 years ago. I'm glad I bought myself a few a decade ago.

  • @BollingHolt
    @BollingHolt ปีที่แล้ว

    Man, I haven’t heard one of those Colorado drives in years!!! I got one for my 486 when I was in the 7th grade, 1993 or 94.

  • @beauregardslim1914
    @beauregardslim1914 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I had one of those tape drives briefly back in the day. It connected to the parallel port and was unreliable. Returned it and bought a used SCSI tape drive, which used some HUGE tapes but worked well.

  • @RandomInsano2
    @RandomInsano2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man, these videos are why I’m subscribed! I’d watch these retrospective computer videos all day. I can appreciate Clint not enjoying making the content I *really* like but it’s too bad.

  • @michaelwood9866
    @michaelwood9866 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    im on the retro computer train today as i just watched philscomputerlab and thisdoesnotcompute and now LGR!!!! man it's a great day!!!

    • @editingsecrets
      @editingsecrets ปีที่แล้ว

      By bedtime you might've seen a whopping 32 MB of PC power!!

    • @michaelwood9866
      @michaelwood9866 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@editingsecrets yes i did and it was awesome!!!!!!!!

  • @flow221
    @flow221 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, the grinding whine of that Colorado drive brings back memories. I had one in my first PC circa 1994. Slow and prone to failure as tape drives tend to be, but it came in handy a few times.

  • @ThisIsPete
    @ThisIsPete ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Operation Stealth isn't really a James Bond game. It was only given that license in the US, presumably to make it sell better -- and it didn't really have many changes made to fit the license! In its native Europe, it was the one and only "John Glames" adventure, which explains why he's taking orders from the CIA. :)

  • @tylerdean980
    @tylerdean980 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I got a machine in a case like this; it’s a 486 that was used as an engine tester from Snap-On. Still have the software on floppy

  • @tiobetio9501
    @tiobetio9501 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My first computer was a 386 with 1mb of RAM. 8 megs would've been an absolute dream for me. I had to save up for a few months to upgrade my next computer, a 486 that came with 2 megs of RAM. Cost me around 400 bucks to upgrade it to 8 megs.

  • @cpace123
    @cpace123 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have had good luck at the surplus stores. I also found a Mitsubishi Diamond Pro 17". And the trinitron tube still looks beautiful

  • @lexington476
    @lexington476 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    10:01 yep that's a case from the early 90s. How I survived my earlier days without contracting tetanus from those cases I have no idea. Cases and a little bit later in the '90s server rack rails 🙂. My first IT job in the very late 90s I sliced my hand open on a set of server rails... to this day I always handle server rails with gloves 😎.

  • @marccaselle8108
    @marccaselle8108 ปีที่แล้ว

    I heard of these of Colorado backup tapes but I never saw or used them at all. Cool stuff Clint.

  • @orangeActiondotcom
    @orangeActiondotcom ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just picked up a complete 486DX4/100 for 99c back in March this year using the same method you did here -- winning with a lazy bid but getting it at opening price because no competition forced it any higher. In fact, I caught it on a relisting because I'd missed the ending of the first auction. Truthfully, who knows how long it had been been sitting there getting relisted every week with no one noticing it. I think a lot of people fundamentally misunderstand how eBay works; even in 2023 I still see people complaining 'eBay is rigged' because they were 'automatically outbid as soon as I put a bid in'. That's good, I think it means those of us who bother to learn it will continue to secure good deals.

    • @unbearifiedbear1885
      @unbearifiedbear1885 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah you have to spend at least _some_ effort gaming the filters, most people simply don't take the time
      I always go _"ending soonest"_ first, there are *dozens* of zero bid auctions finishing every minute.. great way to pick up insane bargains, even for stuff just to resell
      ...and yes, peoples nearly 2 decade long inability to realise how you are putting in the max you _would_ pay and eBay automatically increases your bid to that max limit as the auction continues, is both hilarious and invaluable lol - I don't even know how many auctions I've sniped using this - _"2s remaining"_ are among the sweetest words in the English language 😂

  • @andywolan
    @andywolan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My dad’s pc had that Colorado Backup 250MB tape drive back in the 90’s. There is also a Windows version of the Colorado Backup software, which had an interesting interface for the time.

  • @mathieucuny8872
    @mathieucuny8872 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How nostalgic! That's exactly how I experienced Doom on my first 386SX-25MHz. Low details in a reduced window. Not the greatest experience, but I loved it anyways...

  • @predcon1
    @predcon1 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You ever buy something super cheap because it's listed as "Non-working", and then you get it, and it totally works, and the seller finds out about it and tries to hit you up for more money for it? I have, and it's the most pathetic thing.

  • @petermoeller5901
    @petermoeller5901 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, this was timewarp for me. The counting/ticking sound of the RAM. The Colorado tape drive. The AMD CPU. I had totally forgotten about all this. And in 5 minutes probably I forget it again.

  • @ogami1972
    @ogami1972 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I miss those days of like '99-'06 where old PCs were found on the side of the road. I'm just some random idiot, and i had like 5 working win98 PCs at one point. Good times of installing 98lite, winamp, opera and trillian. Throw in gimp and OpenOffice and bam, an amazing machine for a couple bucks.

  • @MUMSUniverse
    @MUMSUniverse ปีที่แล้ว

    Never heard of this band before, but I got to say, the pc & the owners little mods make me ❤💚 this pc.

  • @AcornElectron
    @AcornElectron ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah, I’ll like this. Interesting and informative as always C.

  • @IRWPD
    @IRWPD ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Never seen one of those tape drives before. They are cool for sure.