Topical Finasteride For Hair Loss: How to Use and Where To Get It
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- Welcome to episode 34. In this episode, Dr Vikram Jayaprakash and Dr Russell Knudsen discuss the topical of Topical Finasteride. How does it work, how to use it, and where to get it.
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This does nothing to treat the cause of androgenic loss
I am using topical for almost two years and I am not planning going back to oral. Same good results as oral but no side effects, easy decision.
You're using 0.25% finasteride per ml?
Hi can you please explain how you prepare the solution. And how much active ingredient you put in Finasteride. I assume you are preparing the solution with minoxidil
@@xGabanax1 I use 0.05 % per 1 ml, and I use 1 ml morning and another at night, so in total I get 0.1%, equivalent to the finasteride you get through oral.
@@def7550 0.05% per ml, and I use it twice per day so I get 0.1%. But I don't make it, I buy the mixed solution, from minixidilmax.
@Brain Freed Yes, I use 0.1 finasteride mixed with 6% minox.
Of all the doctors in the world, i trust you two most 💯
i have started using topical finestride with minoxidil . i am not exaggerating. i seen immediate improvements in 15 days
What's the finasteride concentration in 1ml?
and how is the result ?
TIA
How is it going now?
@@midohossam6586 i stopped it as it affected my sex life.
How you make it😮
Update bro??
You guys you should make it and sell it online with virtual consultation
I don't think he knows what he's talking about. If it needs to be metabolized by the liver for it to effective, then why is the scalp DHT inhibition greater with topical in studies?
@@gw4980it's not greater?
How to make it at home 😮
Give the name of product or you made it on your own
Thank you for the video on topical as i had side effects on oral. Ive tried topical finastride and im finding it definitely worked for me with no side effects ive found. I unfortunately suffer from Depression for many years, so its little hard for me to judge if i get side effects from topical, but my experience i dont think i am. Hope that helps someone.
Where do you buy topical one?
@@Adriano70911 just Google topical finastride and there are a couple of places that might send it to your country.
@@graeme1744 I don't think so. I've been trying it with no satisfying results. If you know a place with cheap fin and shipping to EU, then share it please
@@Adriano70911 hihappyhead
Graeme Davin
I think I have the same problems. I’m not sure if it nocebo or if I’m actually getting the sides. I stopped using it a couple days ago because I got depressed but again I’m not sure what’s really going on. I might try topical but I have to crush up the pills and mix it into a carrier oil like minoxidil. I’m really down about this because my hair loss really bothers me.
In the side effects video you guys were adamant everyone's blowing it out of proportion, and here, in the topical finasteride video, you guys go on about how even here the side effects are real. So frustrating to hear.
Side effects are REAL, but they are Rare !!!
IF you feels Sad after 30 days, less strong, depressed, maybe your tits are extra sensitive and your erections are soft, probably don't use this Drug !!!
A certain, very small, group of men with certain genetic dispositions are devastated by this drug ....>FACT !
I agreeee
I was on Topical Finasteride from December 2019 to the end of March 2020. I received great regrowth on my hairline. However I’ve now finished my Topical Fin and have now switched to Oral Fin which I will start soon (along with Minoxidil).
Will why you decide to switch?
Djsnoop123 because I ordered my Topical Fin from the US (I live in the UK) and with the Coronavirus outbreak I was concerned it might not arrive, so I decided to buy oral fin in the UK, which thankfully has arrived
How much was it? Also would you recommend it
What was the website in the US you ordered from? After the Coronavirus saga I would like to order some
Dack Davenport yes Minoxidil Max. £90 was a bit pricey but considering I used it 6 days a week and it lasted me almost 5 months I’d say it’s pretty good
Just my anecdote, but I had side effects with oral fin after four days versus no side effects with topical fin.
how long habe you been using topical fin?
@@maurice1003 five months.
@@neilcowan6227 Is it work? Are you still losing hair?
Any update?
whats going on with the top its been a year
I’ve been using topical finasteride with minoxidil in the same solution for the past 3-4 months and it’s doing wonders! Still early to tell but grown heaps. Just waiting for the 8-12 month period
Thanks Ken! Where do you get your topical finasteride? Do you use 0.25% in an ethanol base?
@@Ken_livingintheGlory Hi Ken :) Did your dermatologist tell you that it worked? I've been using it for a month but many dermatologist told me it didn't work?
John Dupont hey john! As for dermatologist I didn’t visit one but for sure it’s worked for me since I’ve notice a lot of regrowth but still early stages so I’m waiting for 8-12 months to see more benefits. Give it 3-6 months to actually start seeing result ! There’s a lot of studies done on it so worth checking out :)
Good for you but you could get side effects from the Fin. I am a little surprised these docs talked generically about topical Fin.
I am a pharmacist that makes topical Fin but here is the important point: I make liposomal formulation that keeps the drug local to almost undetectable systemic levels so no side effects....you can get it in Italy but quite expensive and 3 month wait.
I am sorry at this time I just send to patients in the U.S......liposomal has quite a few studies supporting my claims.
@@alexisb1121 Wait where can i buy this?
Is there an update to this after 2 years?
Do you recommend 3 times a week for this as you do for oral finasteride?
What you do?
Yes would like to know as well. Since it arrived in Germany too.
Dosage 3 times a week 0.1 ?
@@RAWxxx07Where do you get it from in Germany?
I suffered from post finasteride syndrome after 10 years of taking it orally. Be cautious!
you have no idea what your blood work was prior to even using fin so you can't blame it at all , your fault for just taking oral tablets and not knowing your hormone levels to start with
@@GokuPlaysUK Thanks Doc for clearing that up for me and explaining my entire medical history👍 MUG!!!
How can finasteride affect you if you quit it 10 years ago ? There are countless possible reasons for any symptoms you may be having, how can you say it is due to finasteride ?
@@TheSlimmshadyy I didn't say i took it 10 years ago. I said I had been taking it for 10 years non stop. I gave up about 15 months ago.
@@bobstar6837 So did you have any symptoms while you were on it as well ?
Topical Finasteride (0.1%) + Coconut oil (minimum 4 spoons per day) + Minoxidil (5%) + Microneedling (Once a week with the correct length) = Something that I'm going to try...
Did it work?
@@johndupont8596 Hello. I'm going to try it out. I started the treatment with minxodil+topical finasteride+coconut oil today. My objective is just maintenance but If some hair growth comes as a result I'll be happy too. The coconut oil will suppress part of the serum DHT (it's DHT block effectiveness is dose-dependent according to a study done in mice) and the local suppression will be achieved with the 0.025% topical finasteride. I think with that finasteride concentration the possibility of getting any sides is minimal. Finally, the minoxidil and Dermaroller will be implemented as hair growth stimulants.
There are a lot of people that combine minoxidil and finasteride in a higher concentration but even though don't get any real results. A study proved that a group of those that don't get any result of that combination was submitted to treatment with minoxidil and microneedling so that the satisfactory results came out. That's why I want to cover every kind of gap in the treatment. I hope that my hair loss reach a stability point as sooner as possible.
If everything goes better I'll try to discontinue the finasteride usage slowly because I don't want to use that thing for my whole life, even though I don't think If the scientific community knows all the finasteride consequences in long term consume.
@@magnoregis1683 any update?
@@bahrularifin6284 Hello man. I'm using a 0.125% topical solution. It's almost 3 months since I started the treatment and since then I'm suffering a hideous shedding. Some baby hairs are growing very slowly on the temples. I expect that that shedding ends soon. My crown is fulled with miniaturized hairs, I hope that those hairs can be replaced by stronger hairs.
@Jay K Hello. I'm not suffering any of those sides. I think that's very diffcult to get them with such amount of finasteride absorption. My hairloss is finally reducing though.
After a time I reduce the coconut oil comsuption, I'm dermarolling once evey two weeks and I increase finasteride concentration from 0.0125% to 0.025%. But in order to cover the entire scalp with the topical solution, I'm using 2 ml, then the daily finasteride comsuption amount is equivalent to half of a pill (0.025*2).
Thanks for the valuable content. Please do a video on RU58841 and/or Alfatradiol as a topical treatment for hairloss. Thanks.
@Brain Freed rub it on your scalp in sections. You may need to do it when your hair is dry. It takes at least 8-12 months to see results due to our hair cycle.
You’ve mentioned that finasteride has a success rate of 83%. Do you feel like that percentage is way lower for people dealing with MPB at a younger age? Because I’ve noticed that the only guys on the forums who complain fin didn’t work for them are in their twenties
People who suffer from hair loss at a younger age have by definition a more aggressive form. In that population, you could argue that finasteride is going to be less effective over a longer period.
The Hair Loss Show what do you prescribe patients in their early twenties?
Is it advisable to make a blood sample pre fin and after fin regularly to check what changes?
And what balance should testosterone/estrogen/progesteron/estradiol etc be in?
Could you make a video discussing that?
And maybe the neurosteroids as well which apparently are low with some pfs ppl or those who take fin
@@TheHairLossShow im on finasteride and RU58841 and use ketokonazole shampoo as well. im 22. is this a good stack to use?
@@carminerainone1959 does it work ?
@@carminerainone1959 any progress what are the sides effefts of ru?
Topical minoxidil plus finasteride helped me get my hair density back. Trim all your hair and spray it on head and massage it gently. Our scalp absorbs liquids 4 times faster than the skin of other parts of body due to which you need to apply it twice a day. You have to do this two times a day. You will see the result after 60 days. Its my personal experience. I dont know if it will suit you or not.
How to make top finasterid pls
I started topical finasteride (1mg a day with minoxidil) in December to see how I’d respond. I told myself I’d never take it but my hair was getting worse and worse. Had No sides at all. (Been using minoxidil for 5 years) I could definitely see a difference after one month but then nothing for three months so switched to oral. (1mg 3 times a week following advice from hair loss show) Been on oral now for two weeks with no sides. Applying 5% minoxidil twice a day along with micro needling once a week, laser helmet 3 times a week. I’m currently between Norwood 3 and 4. Hoping to see positive results after 6 months and waiting for my first shed.
Any update?
No sides. 2 and a bits months into oral fin and a fuck ton of shedding. No gains yet. Shedding has slowed and almost stopped. Hope to see gains over the next couple of months.
@@tonymacpherson3710 Thanks Anthony, have you seen gains now? :)
John Dupont hey mate, starting to see slight gains now. Started taking 1mg a day 6 days a week for 1 month now. 5% minoxidil in the morning and 15% (get it from the states minoxidilmax) in evening. After such a heavy shed three months ago, finally seeing gains. I’m a 33 year old male. Norwood 3 to 4 ish. Been on oral finasteride now for almost 4 months. Started off 3mg a week, now taking 6mg a week. No sides.
John Dupont yeah mate. I can see a difference.33 year old male. Been on oral finasteride almost 4 months. Upped to 6mg a week from 3mg( a week) a month ago, no sides. 5% minoxidil in morning. 15% in evening. Micro needling 1.5mm once a week( apply minoxidil approx 4 hours later). Glad to see positive results. I knew I would after such a heavy shed. Bring on month 6 and 7. I’ll take a 1 month break from oral fin in 3 months to let it clear out of my system, then go again. Good lucks boys
Hi Vikram,
Do you know if Topical Finasteride works better in a certain base solution in your opinion? Liposomal, botanical, ethanol? Or does it make no difference?
Thanks a lot!
Can you guys talk about what works on the hairline if anything at all? Is there any proven way to advance a receding hairline? What about anecdotal evidence?
Does the 5 alpha reductase enzyme actually get blocked at a local level or is it still just systematic?
As in, does T convert to DHT at the hair follicle level?
@@dvlORangl yeah does it block dht or testosterone to dht conversion?
Because if it blocks the conversation then its pointless since dht already produced elsewhere and transported to head
@@arjun6358you got the answer? Pls tell
I had horrendous side effects from oral finasteride when I was very young… I wouldn’t touch it with a 20 foot pole… Luckily I completely recovered…
Can you explain about your side effects
@@iceagetv5558 Extreme difficulty getting/maintaining an erection, semen viscosity more like water. Made a full recovery, this was years ago.
@@nicholasbroadhurst9096 Have u tried with topical Finasteride??
How much time brother
Week or so, I was 18 and only took a few pills before I started to notice the side effects and quit.@@akleshmanchare5401
Kindly provide some information regarding CAPIXYL, PROCAPIL, ANAGROW and other minoxidil alternatives
They should
if i apply it topically on the scalp. will it affect my beard growth aswell or is dht blocked only in the scalp area?
Thanks for covering this. Have recently switched from topicals to all oral, finasteride and loniten. Must say I am loving the convenience.
Glad to hear it. Good luck.
@@TheHairLossShow 2 days before i have switxhed from oral finasteride to topical finasteride.. but i have 90% hair covered.. is it OK to continue TOPICAL solution doctor??????????? From Tamilnadu India
Is the topical fin work?
@@libra9381 trust me bro.. for past 5 months.. im using that.. i have a good results on Topical finasteride.. i have stopped consuming oral finasteride in this 5 months... I have started on 2016.. upto 2019 december... But now i completely changed to topical minoxidil finasteride mixture.. its like Trail and error.. you have to try it with yourself.. and dont care about other's results . It is uncommon.. so instead asking questions... Try it for 3 months without oral finasteride..
@@praveenpagalavan4438 oh, i thought it was without minoxidil? Don't u think it is because minoxidil as well? Thnx for the answer btw.
Next video on how to apply it? :) And is there a particular dose you would recommend? 0.25%?
Keep up the good work!
Do I apply topical finasteride before, after or different days when using a derma roller???
How you make this topical finasteride
Hello guys. Thank you for this very informative video. I love the fact that other doctors are now talking about topical finasteride. I have been been a big fan for several years and I felt I have been the only doctor for a while. Great video. I believe topical finasteride, especially when mixed with minoxidil, works great for patients with hair loss. I have bee prescribing it for more than two years now. Great video. Thank you.
Glad you have great experience with it. All the best!
Dr Ben Behnam what side effects did your patients have applying topically vs orally if any? Thanks
Is topical finasteride 0.25% just as efficient as Oral finasteride in your experience doctor?
@@austinduncan1280 what?
PVM v my name Jefff
doctor what about the combination of minoxidil and finasteride. does it really work?
Hey guys, I love your stuff. Thanks for all you do. Quick question:
If I've been on topical finasteride for about 3 months, but am not seeing a huge success rate, but have tolerated the dosage well concerning side effects. Would I be a good candidate to start a 1mg 3x/week without incidence?
I've been taking fin 1 mg for 9 months now and I encountered no side effects as of now .
I'd say give it more time in order to start seeing actual full on results it takes about 4 to 6 months, because this stuff is a waiting game
@@oinkgoespiggy7781 okay thank you… that’s good advice. I forgot it takes much longer. I just don’t want to miss my window if oral fin is a better option.
@@Mr_Zesty I mean if you are also worried about missing the window you could try talking to your dermatologist if you should add some more finasteride, but besides that I think you should be OK. It's just up to you if you want to take more
@@dipenchhetri4452 Did your hairloss reduce?
I'm so disappointed it's not readily available in pharmacies and drug stores...
Like your video. Do you know where I can get topical finasteride? I am getting it from minoxidilmax, which is very expensive.
Does it work?
@@johndupont8596 I believe it does work. I used it for about half an year. My hair is a lot thicker than when I started.
Alani mo thanks a lot :) which strength do you use btw?
Did you use Essengen f?
Alani mo any update?
Wow what a amazing results
Topical version is no different. I had had the sides 10 years ago and I had exactly the same side with topical version with less dosages. And unfortunately had to stop it. Guess fin is not for me...
What side effects did you have buddy
Liposomal Fin....no sides, check it out.
what sides? Did you use oral finasteride before?
Is it possible that post-finasteride syndrome is confused with the long time the drug remains on the skin? It is said that a simple dose of 1mg can remain on the skin for at least 30 days, so daily intake would lead to an over-accumulation in the body. In addition, it takes 3-6 months for the body to rid itself of the drug.
That's why cycling it is crucial.
Great content guys. Best on TH-cam. Could you maybe talk about topical androgens such as CB0301 and RU58841? Many people seem to buy these experimental drugs as mentioned on hairloss forums and seems to work well for them. Any thoughts on the use of these?
I use 50mg of RU everyday with minoxidil . Resulting in a really pressured chest. Think i’m going to do a major cutdown to 10 mg a day and add topical fin with it. Got side effect from oral fin so hoping for the best.
@@tehnorthface4346 why r u mixing with minoxidil ru should be enough
harshit Shishodia i have powder, so inhave to mix it with something.. And i already was on minoxidil for a year..
@@tehnorthface4346 Good luck dude! Was using 50 mg/day as well of RU and had some sides, so might lower dose or try topical fin as well
B good luck to you too! What were your sides on RU? I’m on topical fin at the moment, not on RU anymore. Think i’m going to try RU again but at really low dose
Should we use topical fin(0.1%) once daily or twice daily ?
Did it work for you?
twice daily with minoxidil
Bharath NM Gowda did it work for you?
Could u talk about promising hairloss cures in the future ?
Don't worry about cures in hairloss. Worry about what's available now.
Why would they release the cure when they can generate millions through hair transplants and flawed medicines that give false hope?
@@444comeon hairloss market is worth about 23 billion dollars only with the guys that want to do something against it. If there is a cure way more people would buy it so they would actually make way more money.
mezan598 are you dumb treatments are always more profitable then the cure.
@@Saad-rm8sd not always u idiot a lot of people dont give a fuck about their hair if they have to take fin or minox. And just shave it off I would do the same. And the cure for hairloss would always be some sort of treatment. I would even say that histogen would be a cure just get the injection once in a while. Way more people would use that aswell.
Overall in the comments, as well as in the video I feel like there is a general imprecision with regards to dosing. 0.1%, 0.25% or whatever else are not "doses", they are concentrations. It's the strength of a certain preparation. If you have a 0.1% solution, but are applying 10 mL all over your scalp morning and night, you are exposing yourself to WAY more finasteride than someone using 0.25% and applying 1 mL once per day (and you are much more likely to get side effects...). For example at the end of the video the Dr says something like "I even heard of side effects with 0.25%", but that means nothing...is the person applying a bucketload on their head, or are they using 0.1 mL? It makes all the difference. Can't compare apples to oranges
Hello! I've noticed a lump behind my nipple which is likely gyno from 1mg fin after 6 weeks. Getting checked out by doctor but if I can reduce the gyno is there a chance I could be okay with topical fin ? Thank you so much in advance as it's hard to find a straightforward answer.
Same thing happened to me, i perfere we should take the topical finasteride and see what happens
Same here after taking for 6 months 1mg fin
Did the gyno goes away?
Topical Finasteride is still in the pipeline with Breezulu. I use Minoxidil 5% in a 60ML bottle . I have ordered 60 Finisterade tablets at 1mg strength with a view to crushing them and putting them into the 60 ml minoxidil bottle and apply it topically. Can you tell me how many tablets I would need to crush and add to Minoxidil in order to create an effective topical solution. Any advice would be most welcome from the doctors of this video. Thanks
also interested to this question
12 Tablets 5mg
If you are going this route, buy the 5mg pills so you have to add less. That way there are less fillers and binders in the pills, and also there is a film on them. So you can reduce the amount of junk you put in the solution. I buy both 5mg and 1mg pills so I have fine control over the concentration.
Hey guys! Love this podcast series, super informative. Just seeing where in Sydney your clinic is located? Would definitely be interested in making an appointment. Thanks!
The Sydney clinic is in Double Bay.
Hey bro look up a guy called Richie Z. He shows awesome technique on applying it and making the solution if you are interested. He makes his own and his results are insane. I think I’m going to copy exactly what he does. Thank me later
@@TheHairLossShowHello, Can l take 0.025% topical finasteride three times a week? If yes, will it still be effective ?
@@Poupipoupi-bw2blcan you are trying to make it your own
@@ActerX1 l can't make my own, l get it from a pharmacy.
All the studies done of topical Finasteride that you can find on the internet indicate that it lowers serum DHT as much as oral Finasteride. So the side effect shouldn't go away really.
Yeah..but it lowers more scalp dht..
@@medarametlapraveen I know. And that is great. But afterwards it goes systemic, meaning it goes into the blood serum after it gets absorbed in the tissue and if one is struggling with side affects, they wont go away.
@@alinajafi4038 I have been taking 1mg/day for 4 months..so far no sides..shall I assume that I have tolerance for finasteride
@@medarametlapraveen yes man. You are good, you wont get side effects. I unfortunately have extreme side effects. From the second day of taking oral Fin I have extreme erectile dysfunction. But I dont care any more, at this point not losing hair is more important to me.
Utter rubbish…topical only reduces serum dHT by 20%.
Oral reduces my over 70%
How can I get Topical Finasterite in Europe especially Germany??
Hi, did you find out?
I am applying the (5% Minoxidil +0.1 Topical Finasteride Solution)
How many times should I apply it on my scalp daily ? Is it once?
Or should I apply (5% Minoxidl + 0.05 Topical Finasteride Solution) twice daily ?
Which is the safer and more effective?
Did it work for you? Starting fin 0.5% with 5% minoxidil
I think 0.5% is a high dose , I suggest you start with 5% minoxidil + 0.1% Finasteride and it will definitely have a better effect than using minoxidil alone.
@@الغاز_اسلامية did you get good result ?
@@الغاز_اسلامية How many times in a day???
Thanks, Can you guys do a video on oral Monoxidil, I believe its twice to three times more effective than Topical.
Bro You should watch Kevin Mann's Oral Minoxidil.
@@BOSSNumberOneOfficialTH-cam : This guy is a amatuer not a professional physician or Dermatological Surgeon
@@DjEvstacy Any update? Is oral more efficient than topical?
@@johndupont8596 yeah it is, because it is systemic, by how i do not know. however in my experience, new growth is not substantial. may have to invest in a transplant, for decent results.
@@DjEvstacy Where can you get oral minoxidil in the U.K.?
I need help please.
I have the topical and used it tonight= 1MG of FIN. What I am confused about is placing it all over my scalp. Would it be okay to hit each part once? Left temple - Right temple - mid front and back? Dose the drug still work throughout the scalp in places where the drug did not get to fully? ? Been using minoxidil for a good year and been using it all over the head - but I question if this was a dumb idea?
Good question. Did you ever get an answer about this?
Hello doc! I wanted to bring your attention regarding black seed oil. I have heard that it is good for hair loss. The ingredients found in black seed oil stimulates hair growth. Can you please give us some insight about it? Also I have heard that saw palmetto oil too helps in genetic hair loss. Please enlighten us about these two products too. Thanks!
Tbh oils are generally a scam. Literally all oils "promote hair growth". Just use some caster & coconut a couple times a week.
I saw no effect of taking black seed oil.
would topical and oral be overkill? and would that combo with minoxidil and RU58841 in your opinon cause undesired side effects? And or would alternating oral and topical be effective based on your knowledge of the drug
They mentioned it has to compounded, what does that mean?
Created for you by a profesional
Diego Perez but what do they do?
@@TitanRD Brainless response
@@coder001 you take the pills to a chemist and they make it a solution for you so you can apply it topically. Most pharmacies do have topical finasteride but they seem to be much expensive than getting it compounded by a chemist.
😊can it is effective to add finasteride tabs in topical minoxidil ???
TOPICAL DUTASTERIDE PLEASE!!
Is Xyon gel Finasteride and Dutestaride topical application effective?
Does Topical Finasteride can cause Post Finasteride Syndrome?
Probably
@@realmadrid-cx8yd how ?
Gustavo gaviria sameway normal fin does, and gets into the bloodstream
Even if it does, it should be less logically. With Topical, the amount of Finasteride that could eventually get into your blood stream is less compared to Oral because with oral your body should digest it then absorb it and it gets into blood stream and then reaches your scalp in this process Finasteride reaches other parts of your body too whereas with topical its direct and then the residual concentration enters the blood stream and to cause the side effects the appropriate tissues should absorb it at a certain level to have a reaction so the odds are less for that to happen not sure by how much. If your thinning area is small then the amount that gets into your blood stream is even lesser as you would be just applying to Thinning areas. Also, in no case no matter how bad your hair loss is you would not be applying to the entire scalp as your back and sides are not effected by DHT so Finasteride has no effect and if you have bald spots with dead hair follicles then there is no point of applying it either.
Would be interested in the docs opinion on this one
Very informative videos. Thank u.
Has anyone tried Hims topical finasteride spray? (0.1% fin + 6% minoxidil)
I've also been looking for anything on this product.
I’ve just started on this treatment five days ago. I’ve been dealing with slow hair loss for a while now, hopefully this will work for me. I was using the oral version of Finasteride, but had to stop because of the sexual side effects.
@@78Deltafox same here, I felt as if I noticed the affects when using the tablet. I stopped and they offered the tropical
Topical clearly not as effective as oral. As soon as I made the switch I began experiencing some pretty bad hariloss :/
@@OcelotDAD maybe just shedding? They might grow back stronger
Doctor i drop 7- 5 mg proscar pills into a new bottle of minoxidil %5- they dissolve i shake it up and this is what i apply to my scalp each day-30 day supply- is the finasteride absorbing? should i use retin-a to promote absorption or is this fine or is this completely useless?
Does that equal the .1 percent solution?
@@Str8Rippin93 .1 percent solution of what? minoxidil solution is 2 or 5 % only so i am not sure what you are asking
@@psalmtwentyfiveeight what I mean was the standard topical finasteride solution is .1 .
@@Str8Rippin93 oh -7 of the 5mg finasteride pills in a 60ml 1ml per dose , 2 x a day 30 day bottle of minoxidil works out to about 1.25mg finasteride per day -the recommended dose
Hey did it work for you?
I noticed you mentioned female pattern baldness, when hormonal measures are normal, should be treated with stimulating treatments like minoxidil. How about topical dht blockers for women? How do we know if we have dht sensitivity in the scalp? I'm currently applying saw palmetto topically, first time age washing it out I had lots of hair shedding
Go to a dermatologist.
@@johnblah1040 already have. At best they said I'd have ti continue with topical minoxidil, or get on contraception. Id rather not.
@@M.Moadeli123 ive seen females do oral fin
Update?
Just stay at orals and keep it on minimum 0.25 it works much better from inside of the body
lol topical goes systemic so both work from the inside out essentially
My barber recommended using Nizoril shampoo along with oral fin as it’s said to help with hair loss. Anybody heard this before with this shampoo? It defo helps with my flaky/dandruff issue
I am currently using Nizoril, It has ketoconazole which is suppose to help against hair fall as well.
Yes. Literally everyone recommends Nizoril shampoo, or shampoo with Ketoconazole 1%, or 2%
Nizoral will only help if the cause of your hair loss is fungal...
The Hair Loss Show thanks for that. How do you know if it is.
Is .25 finasteride more effective than .1 ? Topical solution. (Once a day). Which would u recommended?
Use Morr F 5% Great Result
Hello! Do the "weak" hair fall out at first when you start using Topical Finastride mixed with Minoxidil? Typically they say if you use Minoxidil alone you can expect your weak hair to fall off first so new can grow, but wondering if same applies when using Topical Finastride
Yes it does, I read that it does the first weeks I think 2 weeks.
have you started using bit ?
The chances of the DHT, that was produced in the liver, affecting the hair follicles of the scalp are, as per the scientific findings, negligible to none. The reason behind this is that the DHT that does shrink the hair follicles of the scalp is produced endogenously, i.e. it is produced within the cells of the hair follicles. The DHT that gets transferred to the hair follicles, via bloodstream, from some other part of the body will probably not lead to the shrinkage of hair follicles. So, topical finasteride should work fine as it is applied directly on the scalp, gets absorbed by the skin, and then gets transferred to the hair follicles. Over there, the endogenous production of DHT will be hampered. The exogenous DHT, as per scientific studies, won't affect the hair follicles anyway.
I was hesitant with taking oral finasteride due to the sexual side effects, and possible cancer increase to the prostate and breast
Has these 3 side effects been shown, or dismissed in studies, when topical finasteride has been used instead
Avoid oral one! It affected me , like it makes one ejaculate too soon even after stopping years later . At the started it reduced detection but that got back to normal after I stopped it
How does topical finasteride mechanism works on the hair follicles ? Since Finasteride is a 5α-reductase inhibitor , Question is are there 5α-reductase around the hair follicles which stops the DHT conversion using topical finasteride?
Can someone put some light on this.
i have the same question
Hi I notice you say that hairs miniturised by more than 50% cannot recover with treatment, but I have to say that in my case this is not what I've experienced. I have experienced significant regrowth at my temples, where my hair was in some areas completely gone and in others greatly miniturised, through a regime of dermarolling with a 1.0mm needle once per week and using a 15% minoxidil 0.1% finasteride solution on this area on days when I don't dermaroll, and I've only been doing this for 2.5 months. I have read that with these treatments it usually takes longer to see full results, so I am optimistic to say the least. Perhaps I won't recover the hairline I had at 17, but I'm doing much better than should theoretically be possible
where do you buy the topical finasteride?
@Joey Davey How old are you?
Thank you bro,....istarted 5%minoxidil 0.1 finasteride tooo ...can you tell what can dermaroller you use?
@@leepriestdoshapemontado how’s it working for you?
@@teddward9550 @drive by touge are u still using
When most people ask about topical fin, they want to know will it still work? Yes we know there is still a chance of side effects but don’t you think it is a lower chance? There are a few studies out there that suggest topical can work as good as oral fin at getting rid of scalp dht.
Did you try topical finasteride? did it work for you?
Been using topical finasteride (minoxidil %5, finasteride %0.25, bimatoprost, Vit E solution 100ml) for 3 months and I have excellent results! My hair looks great!
And my current testosterone levels are;
Testosterone Total: 937 ng/dl
Testosterone Free: 12.47 pg/ml / 43 pmol/L
Can you share the name of the product? And did you buy it?
Bro .. just tell me if you had side effects.
@@arunchoudhury3876 none
@@FatihVideographer Great .. what about the results?
What about hair fall, does taking it cause hair to fall out excessively and then that hair grows back?
Can oral Finasteride be taken along side topical Finasteride? Would it be worth using both at the same time, or would that be an overkill?
It would probably be not beneficial.
I would rather go with topical finasteride 0.1% of 60ml i.e. 1mg daily
Not sure of the benefit of both. If using a good topical formulation that should do the trick.
I'd say it would be better. Do both. 1mg of oral finestride is nothing. Men with prostate problems are prescribed 5 or more mgs. This is how they found out about its hair growing properties. I say 1mg isn't enough.
The other video u said you havnt seen any side effects of the nature people are complaining about in 20 odd years. But now your saying you can even get it topically. Ffs what sort of videos is this
The point being side effects occur in very few people. And side effects get reversed a few weeks to months after finasteride is stopped. In those who don't get side effects, it's a really great treatment for hair loss.
Please make a video about FPHL...the cause of it and remedy and detail...please docter help us
Please check out our videos. We have done a whole series on female hair loss and treatments.
Finasteride with moderate/high grade varicocele. Thoughts? Controindications?
I would also be interested
I didn't see them expand on WHERE to get it?
What about using both oral and topical versions of finasteride ? i was curious if that might be any good .
you crazy bro... people are using the topical version because of the side effects of the oral version and you want both lol
double dosages, double side effect
@@clericdan4375 its safe for oral use and rly there is no problem what so ever with topical use...
@@Kacicka999 No its not, its same like u add more dose for oral tablet.
@@clericdan4375 what ever dude....
Thank you sir ji for great information
Hi! I am a 26 yr old with norwood grade 4! Consulted my dermatologist and now i am on oral Finasteride 1mg for the past 1 and half month! Been regularly taking it (7days/week). My shedding phase is over and i also see some density in my crown area and some baby hair regrowing. Though my only concern is the sex drive! Which i feel has reduced to an extent and I do have occasional ball aches! Should i switch to a topical one? Thanks!
are you impotent now?
updates? brother?
Yes, better to switch to topical
Update
I have the same issue, any news ?
My doctor just told me that topical finasteride was not available in the united states
Maybe someone here is knowledgeable enough and can help me with this...
I never understood the whole "scalp 5-AR" and "serum 5-AR" thing. Hair follicles are no different than any other functionnal unit in the whole body: a hair follicle is a collection of epithelial cells whose function is to make and maintain a hair shaft. Like any other cells, they get their nutrients/molecules from adjacent blood capillaries. DHT is abundant in the blood stream, and so the follicles are perpetually exposed to it, at all times. In that case, what the hell does "scalp 5-AR" change? Wether or not T is metabolized into DHT within the scalp (whatever that even means...in the interstitium space...on the surface of follicular epithelial cells...??) seems irrelevant to me, because there is DHT in the bloodstream at all times and so the follicles are also exposed to it at all times, whether or not the "scalp 5-AR" is being antagonized or not. Doesn't make sense to me. If anyone can help?
Exactly doesn't make sense. I believe topical fin is being absorbed into the body and reducing dht at systemic level not only in the scalp. not sure though
Would like to know if any of your patients using topical Finasteride with minoxidil experienced side effects like ED or varicocele? If yes how can one cure it, please reply to this doctor, it helps me a lot.
Ed can happen if u have very low dht levels but for varicocoele to happen u should have a blockade in your veins,which I think low dht doesn't cause
@@kanagawamitsuda5913 thanks for the reply. My DHT level and other hormones are in range. Varicocele also not found but I have its symptoms in irregular intervals. ED is there since one year. Any leads what can be done?
@@sheshasaipuneeth dude ur ed is psychological
U can take sildenafil 50 mg before an act of coitus
Then gradually reduce the dose
Its better to take help of a psychiatrist
I m MBBS intern so telling u which I have learnt through my professor
@@sheshasaipuneeth don't worry you will be fine
Just take a help of psychiatrist
@@kanagawamitsuda5913 thanks u so much Aman ji. I 'm damm sure that it is side effect of the medicine Inoxi-F. Because ED started after using this medicine and I had severe testicular pain and almost 6 times ultrasound was done and finally colour doppler method was used no conclusion yet. Also I feel 50% loss of sensation on penis. Visited almost 4 urologists and still no leads.
Hey Docs! Just a question: I've been taking a daily 1 mg dose of Finasteride for the last two months. I didn't have any side effects but I noticed an increase of shedding. I knew that it is a common issue with Minoxidil, but is it normal with Finasteride? Should I keep taking it?
Hey I've been on it for 20 days. And I actually count how many hair I lose per day. XD For first 18 days I was stable around 17~30 hair in shower. But from yesterday Im losing 70+. I also wonder What is going on here.
Edit: I have a question, Been on the FIN for the first few weeks were you shedding these much?
The initial shedding is part of the treatment. It may take 3 months of shedding before new hairs grow, apparently. Hairs shed because your follicles are resetting, so it may be an indicative that the treatment is actually working
Yes it’s very normal ! Don’t stop the treatment
I think it’s something to do with your age...the younger you start going bald, the more sensitive to DHT your follicles are...I’ve been of finasteride for 4 months now and I haven’t noticed shedding(might be because I keep my hair short), but the recession of my hairline has sped up drastically and also I’ve noticed that the density of hair on my entire scalp has been reduced...I got pretty scared and started looking for people with a similar experience on baldtruthtalk forum and there are a lot of guys, like me in their 20s who experience the exact same thing... and for some of those guys the lost hair never came back
P I
Where can I buy it?
My doctor prescribed me the novegrow 5% serum contains 5% minoxidil and 0.1% topical finasteride. Does it have any side effects and once stopped or being inconsistent will it cause the hair loss even this which were there and have nutrients before.
Can you please answer
Bro , how it work for you
any input on the 2 in one finsteride/minoxidil topical spray?
A few people have asked about using topical fin with oral. Say a .25 oral and .1% topical. Would this combination effect, in theory, possibly increases chances of effectiveness? Have you had any patients utilize this approach? Please advise. Thank you in advance for your time and response
Did topical Finasteride work for you?
John Dupont I think it may have.. I combined with minoxidil, so I’ can’t 100% say if mild regrowth is from that or Fin. I wish they would reply to my question. I feel it is a valid one.
BillyRogan I see what is the % of the Finasteride? 0.25%?
John Dupont I’ve been using .1% = Img tablet per 1ml of minox. Thinking about getting closer to that dose in using .1% with stemoxtdine in morning and .1% with minox in evening.. Or just popping the 1/4 pill with topical.. I dunno.. it takes time, so maybe will keep what I’ve been doing until at least a year and see
@@BillyRogan How's it going bro?
Can you do a video on topical Alfatradiol for hair loss brand name pantostin
It works not with growing hair but can help with reducing hair loss
I was experiencing heavy side effects from finasteride. Is it ok when stop taking it for a month. Is it ok to take it only every third day to have less side effects?
Ill answer since the docs never do ....yes!!! I had side effeccts and started taking it once every 3 days ....great results no more side effects!!! Just be consistent ....i also recommend nizoral shampoo 2 times a week you can get the 2 % otc in canada but i believe most places u nedd a script .however theres also the 1% otc everwhere .also helped when i took my finersteride with food .....good luck!!
Yes. That sounds fine.
hh23 hh23 what dosage were you at when you dropped Tk every 3 days?
@@austinduncan1280 .5 mg
hh23 hh23 what side effects did you have?
How long should one wait to use topical finastride and minoxidil after a hair transplant?
24 hours
Hi docs..
I just love your podcasts and they are very informative. I follow what you prescribe too. Well i had a FUT of 3000 grafts surgery in my frontal scalp of thinning hair. Please note my hair line did recede and hair thinned badly. Issue is its just been 3 months but still i am not seeing very visible results yet...
Thus would request you to bring up a podcast on the development and result of a hair transplant with timeline..
Any updates now on the transplant?
you’ll usually see results after 6-12 months
Where can we get this stuff? Why hasn't FDA approved this?? Let's goo
You can make it yourself. There's a website that explains how to mix it. Basically you crush up your monthly supply of Fin, add it to a months supply of minoxodil, shake the bottle for 10 minutes non stop, let it sit over night. Then just use it as you would your minox, 2mil daily provides 1mg of fin a day. i've been doing it this way for the past 3 months & getting same results as oral.
still getting results?? do you have the link on how to make it ?
@@brazapride Yep, especially now i've added a dermaroller. Will try find it
@@Gianni89128 hey man do you use anything for your scalp after derma rolling like a serum etc?
@@johncrow2852 Nah mate. I've heard that mentioned but i don't. I'm only using a 0.5 one. Might have some slight itching the day or 2 after but haven't seen a reason for it. I use the dermaroller once a week & just apply the fin/minox mixture 2mil a day as normal with minox. Study showed that oral fin reduces DHT in the body by 75% but only 25% on the scalp, where as topical reduces only 25% in the body but 75% on the scalp. So you get less DHT on the area you want without the crazy sides that loosing 75% of your DHT would have.
Hello doctors! I wanted to ask if i get sides from the topical version, the time to recover from them should be the same of the oral version?
any update/
Update? Have you tried it at all?
Update? Have you tried it at all?
J Allson still sides...
Salvatore Raiti wait, you axtually have topical finasteride? Are the sides bad?
For how long have you been applying it and do you see any improvement in your hair growth/loss?
I used PO Fin and side effects were terrible, I stopped and thank goodness all side effects gone. Now, planning to use tropical Fin, hopefully no side effects.
how did it go so far mate ? Glad to hear you r feeling better
Any update?
@@anubhavmishra6379 he's dead
@@RealAlphaMale69 lol 😆
@@RealAlphaMale69 yeah tropical one is the most deadly :-D
What about some other topical antiandrogens like CB-03-01 or
RU58841
Just read the research on CB yourself, they won't have any experience. As far as RU goes, there aren't even any research
If Finasteride stops working, after some years for example,it could be the reason because you get a resistance to the drug (a resistance to the 5ar blockers) from the longtime use and then you need to upper the dose,for making it possible to work again? Or it possibly won’t happen ? Thank you docs !
One of the 1st few videos here mentioned resistance to finasteride is a myth/misconception. Check out their video on how Finasteride works from their uploaded videos.
Nexus5 Google Thanks mate for the answer,although I had read so many reports on forums referring to 5AR upregulation which may happens.Have you ever read for that? Thank you
@@cloudstrife2396 Upregulation isn't resistance because of use but a personal hormal response to fin
As we know Androgenetic Alopecia is a progressive disease, I don't know if that is related to the increase of 5ar receptors or serum DHT concentration or both. In any case, it's reasonable that some people will experience a change with the medicine response overtime. Maybe that is the case of increase the dosage or combine it with other treatments that are working as micro-needling, for example. There is a study that shows the efficacy of the treatment on micro-needling with minoxidil combined when the conventional one failed (minoxidil+finasteride). www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4458936/
I agree with your statement and may be time to switch to Dutasteride. I have used Fin for years and no longer seems to work which could be tolerance developed or change in physiology by virtue of my age.
Thanks guys! Really helpful!
Can I ask you if you have had patients that used topical finasteride and it worked for them?
Thanks.
John
Hi John. Yes we do. Topical finasteride is generally not our number one option. We will generally try an oral version first. If the person cannot tolerate it, then we would consider switching to a topical version. We have many patients who are quite happy with it.
@@TheHairLossShow Thanks a lot! Is there a particular dose you would recommend? 0.25%?
John
Why is oral the number one choice over topical?
I’ve seen some research saying it reduces scalp dht much more and much less goes systemic. Seems like it would be a no brainer to use topical if this is true.
@@TheHairLossShow Is topical finasteride 0.25% just as efficient as Oral finasteride in your experience at your clinic?
@@TheHairLossShow Is the finasteride formulations just ethanol/fin and pg or is it liposomal?
Can someone please teach me how to make it and what equipment I will need? I. Currently have 1 mg fin tablet and minoxidile
Hey again, guys! Thanks for the previous response to my comment regarding HDL. I have another question I hope you can answer: I did some searching and apparently you can mix topical finasteride yourself simply by grinding the pills and adding it to a solution such as the one that exists in minoxidil. Is this truly gonna get finasteride absorbed or won’t it permeate the skin?
I literally just grinded up 15 one mg minoxidil pills and added them to a fresh 60ml bottle of minoxidil lol. I plan to try it out for the first time tomorrow morning. Should come out to 0.025% and if I keep applying minoxidil twice a day then that will be equivalent to 0.5mg of finasteride applied topically.
@@3500camarz did it work?
@@johndupont8596 I've only been applying it once a day but yeah it's working quite well actually! I see a lot of regrowth and my hair is noticeably thicker and more dense. Currently on 8 months of oral finasteride, two months of minoxidil, and one month of topical finasteride!
@@3500camarz any updates. Planning on doing the same thing on 30mg of fin mixed into minoxidil. So it comes to equal to 1mg per day if applied twice. Just not sure if the fin will be absorbed and does actually work. Have you had any sides on topical fin?
now we have odians that are scientifc ..jajajaj
Can I still use tropical solution with minoxidil and finastride while planning for kids
Pls dont pass your shitty genetics to your kids. Better not married
finasteride alters sperm dna and count. It's better to stop it a few months prior.
Hello can you do an episode on saw palmetto? Some evidence to suggest it has an effect on preventing hair loss.
It does 0 shit
Keep it with FDA approved stuff.
I will try topical finasteride
@@arminass1681 Did you try topical finasteride? did it work for you?
Saw Palmetto taking it orally actually helped me to grow new hair on my sides but had side effects like palpitation, chest tenderness so just switched to topical saw palmetto. With oral got results within 2-3 months.
lakshmi narayan any thoughts on topical Finasteride?
@@johndupont8596 Haven't tried that yet but planning to and seems like it works well based on results posted online.
My question is that is Topical finasteride just as effective for regrowth?
It makes sense to use Dutasteride to inhibit 5AR1 and block more DHT, because as Dr.Russell said, DHT from other organs can also affect hair via blood.
PS - Liver have 5AR1 not 5AR2 and finasteride only inhibits 5AR2.
They have video on it. Search in their channel.
@@BOSSNumberOneOfficialTH-cam Ok I got it, it's not important for everyone to block more DHT.
@@kabirwadhwa4817 Yep. Other two arent related to hair.
DHT is not a direct cause of baldness. DHT has many benefits to the body. The problem is DHT activates TGFBeta1in the scalp. Inactivating all DHT, for argument, would not be a healthy move. DHT is vital to health.
@@alexisb1121 And the Solution is?
I am using topical finasteride morr f 5% from one month and I see baby hairs on my scalp and a little improvement in hair density will these hair grow long and should I continue using it for 4-5 months feel free to reply
How is it going?
Bro... Can you be in touch with me... I am using same.
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