I was eyeing this for awhile, purchased the mixer based on your review. I totally love that little mixer! Thanks again for the review! I didn't use the hub and it works great. Love it.
Thanks, Yes, the same steps will work with one exception. The Mackie has a 2x4 USB interface that returns 2 stereo channels instead of just 1 set. So you have to tell your iOS app ( GarageBand, ect ) to use the second output for audio as the first set is just for Overdubbing with the Mackie.
I have this board, and I have been trying to connect my laptop with tracks to sing to and a vocal mic, and mix them to my Samsung for live streaming. I have watched a few videos, and this comes closest, but I am having trouble getting both the tracks & vocal to my phone. Can you assist?
Heh Ryan, depends on the phone you have, If you have a phone that still has an actual headphone socket ( Galaxy S10 and earlier ) then all you need is this adapter cable that goes from one of the Main outputs of the Mixer to the phone: www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1500946-REG/movo_photo_tcb2_xlr_female_microphone_to.html Then use an android based recording app that allows you to choose 'external Mic" as an option and adjust the Main Output slider from the mixer. This will allow you to record the computer audio ( channels 7/8) , plus a Microphone ( Channels 1 or 2 ) through the mixer main output ( including FX ) , to the Mic input of the phone. ( Note, the recording will be in Mono, NOT stereo, as the Mic input to the phone is only Mono, so just Pan all your mixer channels in the middle ) However, if you have a newer S20 or the new Note series, things are a bit more complex as the newer S20 and Note series no longer support hardware audio input/output via the headphone jack. And using the USB port for audio devices on the S10 and S20 has been hit and miss. You may want to check the Samsung community forums for more info on this issue: us.community.samsung.com/t5/Phones/ct-p/phones
Because you are on Android, It might make more sense to try it the other way around. Connect the Mixer to the Laptop Instal the 'Soundcraft Control Panel Software and drivers" Open SC Control Panel and navigate to 'Audio Routing' and choose 'Mix L+R' Connect a Mic to Channels 1 or 2 Play the backing tracks on the computer ( computer audio comes back on channels 7/8 ) Mix the channel volumes to taste and add FX ( Blue AUX sends ) if needed Record directly into the live streaming app on your computer ( Facebook Live, TH-cam, ect. ) This will be high quality stereo audio to your live stream
Good afternoon ❤ Will these steps (Mix L&R) works Also with the 12FX version of this mixer? I recently found a good deal on the 12FX model (USB 4in\4out), however, the driver of that model shows input 1&2 are fixed (you can't change them) , also it shows input 3&4 (and you can assign them to Mix L&R . Sorry for My question it's just too confusing 😅😅. As far as I understand that phones accept only 2 channels and I thought I might ask you for an advice. Thank you again 🌹
@@Featherlightstudio Well, I spent all day looking, but no one seems to know. However I found these infos: The 12FX is (USB 4x4) But, the driver of the 12FX version has 2 windows. First window, channel 1&2 are fixed (you can't change them to Mix L&R). Second window, channel 3&4 which allows you there to assign Mix L&R. This way, everything plugged in the mixer will be going out to stereo channels L&R (including EQ and effects). The remaining question is, does this mean that I can send everything from the 12FX to the iphone, like what you did with your 8FX version.? I'm planning to buy this mixer to do live streaming directly to my iphone. Just like you. The only difference is that you have got a beautiful voice mate, unlike my voice that sounds like a crocodile running straight pipes 😅 Now as far as I know, iphones only accept 2 channels in and out . The price difference between the 2 is only 48$ that's why I'm confused. Any way thank you for your beautiful tutorials ❤❤ If anyone found an answer, please inform us 👋
Absolutely , once the IOS system 'see's your audio interface via either the camera connection kit or USB-C ( in newer devices ) any IOS app can use the hardware. It is up to the app creator to determine the use case. In most cases all the IOS app ecosystem works the same ( garage band, voice recorder, etc ) as do most 3rd party apps. This is how high end podcasters and live streamers get around having to use only their iPhone microphones.
You did a spectacular job demoing this, do you work for Soundcraft? If not, they should hire you 😂 thanks for the video. Great job 👏 nice stuff performance at the end too.
On newer IOS devices you can, because USB-C computes it power requirements differently than the older Lightning connector based devices but you may still get the "This device draws too much power" warning. The USB hub is just a hack to get around the warning notice.
Great video! I have a question about the Notepad mixer. Let's say I'm in a remote location where I'm unable to plug into an AC outlet, is there a way to convert the DC into USB so I can use a portable charger to power the mixer? Of course taking the amount of volts/watts into consideration
So is this setup reliant on a Soundcraft mixer in order to work? Or can another kind of mixer with a USB out get the job done? I have a Yamaha mixer. Am I out of luck? Let me know if there are any other mixers I can use with my iPhone to make the signal path you showed us here work.
Theoretically any mixer could work but it relies on the mixer being 'class compliant' meaning, no specific drivers are required. Like Apple Core Audio for example, most iOS devices use this driverless protocol.
The newer Android devices are getting to be very similar to IOS in terms of latency so that makes things like streaming and music apps much faster and the process is very much the same. The older Android devices ( early Galaxy, etc ) unfortunately suffer from too much latency to really use effectively.
Our experience with Android has been hit and miss. Many of the later models (Samsung, Sony) have worked but older models did not but, that was due entirely to the phone’s hardware and the version of Android used. The later versions of Android DO support low latency audio but it is up to the manufactures hardware to support it.
I’m currently using an iPhone 7. I bought the exact same equipment shown in this video and followed the instructions. Somehow I don’t get the same results. For my current setup I have my mic in Channel 1 and my music in Channel 2. However, I can hear the music and my vocals through the mixer but when I press record on my phone to test audio music and vocals don’t come out and my phone microphone is still picking up the background.
If your phone microphone is still working, then your iPhone 7 is not seeing the mixer as an audio interface. Are you connecting the mixer via the Apple Camera Connection Kit AND going through a USB-3 hub? ( you may want to try another USB-3 Hub as not all are up to the Apple certification ) The best way to test if the mixer is correctly connected is to play back audio from your iTunes library on your phone. If it plays back through Channels 7/8 on the mixer, then it is connected correctly.
I’m sorry. I’m not understanding. Why didn’t you just plug directly into the camera connection adapter? Why did you have to plug-in to the USB hub before plugging in to the mixer? I thought you only use the hub adapter when you needed to have power?? You mentioned you weren’t using the power.
The reason we used the USB Hub was some of the older iOS devices ( iPhones/Ipads ) would detect the external device as drawing too much power and disable it. By using a USB Hub, you can effectively 'trick' the iOS device into bypassing the power detection notice.
Hi I just got my notepad, As you cited on the video we don’t require any other extra hub since the mixer has it’s own power source. However when I connect my iphone 11pro Max it says that the device “requires too much power”.. does it mean im doing something wrong? Or it cannot be used without a powered usb hub?
Eman Music Chef: We don't need to hub to power the Mixer as the Mixer is powered however, we DO need the hub to prevent our IOS device from 'trying' to power the mixer. If connected 'directly' from the phone to the Apple Camera Connection Kit OR directly to the USB-C port...your IOS device will try to power the Mixer and fail, giving you that message. The Hub prevents that.
@@Kapricorn Sounds like you IOS device is not seeing the Mixer as an Audio Interface. You can test if it is connected correctly by starting your music app. The music playback should return through mixer channels 7/8 on the Notepad 8FX, or Channels 9/10 on the Notepad 12FX
Heh Luis, not totally sure what you are trying to do here but if you have the newer iRig2 ( Lightning Connector ) then it will want to be the Audio Interface instead of the 8fx. If you have another iOS device ( iPad ) , you could use that for the iRig and take the headphone out into the Mixer that's connected to the iPhone.
That would depend on the Android phone. Android does not widely adopt the use of Class Compliant Drivers the way IOS does. It would be completely model dependent. Many of the newer Android phones DO support class compliant driver model now.
Hands down the best tutorial on how this mixer work Thank you Sir!
I was eyeing this for awhile, purchased the mixer based on your review. I totally love that little mixer! Thanks again for the review! I didn't use the hub and it works great. Love it.
OMG, I had to search for that song after listening to you sing. I wish could hear you sing this song in a full video, have a nice day!
Thanks so much, this is the link to the video/song :
facebook.com/stevenmichael.hartwell/videos/1847226532076020/
Hello there 👋 can these exact steps works with the Mackie fx10 pro V3?? Since the Mackie has a USB port too.
Thank you and you've got a great voice 👏
Thanks, Yes, the same steps will work with one exception. The Mackie has a 2x4 USB interface that returns 2 stereo channels instead of just 1 set. So you have to tell your iOS app ( GarageBand, ect ) to use the second output for audio as the first set is just for Overdubbing with the Mackie.
I have this board, and I have been trying to connect my laptop with tracks to sing to and a vocal mic, and mix them to my Samsung for live streaming. I have watched a few videos, and this comes closest, but I am having trouble getting both the tracks & vocal to my phone. Can you assist?
Heh Ryan, depends on the phone you have, If you have a phone that still has an actual headphone socket ( Galaxy S10 and earlier ) then all you need is this adapter cable that goes from one of the Main outputs of the Mixer to the phone: www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1500946-REG/movo_photo_tcb2_xlr_female_microphone_to.html
Then use an android based recording app that allows you to choose 'external Mic" as an option and adjust the Main Output slider from the mixer.
This will allow you to record the computer audio ( channels 7/8) , plus a Microphone ( Channels 1 or 2 ) through the mixer main output ( including FX ) , to the Mic input of the phone.
( Note, the recording will be in Mono, NOT stereo, as the Mic input to the phone is only Mono, so just Pan all your mixer channels in the middle )
However, if you have a newer S20 or the new Note series, things are a bit more complex as the newer S20 and Note series no longer support hardware audio input/output via the headphone jack. And using the USB port for audio devices on the S10 and S20 has been hit and miss.
You may want to check the Samsung community forums for more info on this issue: us.community.samsung.com/t5/Phones/ct-p/phones
Because you are on Android, It might make more sense to try it the other way around.
Connect the Mixer to the Laptop
Instal the 'Soundcraft Control Panel Software and drivers"
Open SC Control Panel and navigate to 'Audio Routing' and choose 'Mix L+R'
Connect a Mic to Channels 1 or 2
Play the backing tracks on the computer ( computer audio comes back on channels 7/8 )
Mix the channel volumes to taste and add FX ( Blue AUX sends ) if needed
Record directly into the live streaming app on your computer ( Facebook Live, TH-cam, ect. )
This will be high quality stereo audio to your live stream
Thank you so much!! This video was really helpful 🙏🙏🙏
Good afternoon ❤
Will these steps (Mix L&R) works Also with the 12FX version of this mixer?
I recently found a good deal on the 12FX model (USB 4in\4out), however, the driver of that model shows input 1&2 are fixed (you can't change them) , also it shows input 3&4 (and you can assign them to Mix L&R .
Sorry for My question it's just too confusing 😅😅. As far as I understand that phones accept only 2 channels and I thought I might ask you for an advice.
Thank you again 🌹
Sorry I dont have the 12FX version here to confirm that. Let us know what you find out as it helps others looking at the Notepad Series.
@@Featherlightstudio
Well, I spent all day looking, but no one seems to know. However I found these infos:
The 12FX is (USB 4x4)
But, the driver of the 12FX version has 2 windows.
First window, channel 1&2 are fixed (you can't change them to Mix L&R).
Second window, channel 3&4 which allows you there to assign Mix L&R.
This way, everything plugged in the mixer will be going out to stereo channels L&R (including EQ and effects).
The remaining question is, does this mean that I can send everything from the 12FX to the iphone, like what you did with your 8FX version.?
I'm planning to buy this mixer to do live streaming directly to my iphone. Just like you. The only difference is that you have got a beautiful voice mate, unlike my voice that sounds like a crocodile running straight pipes 😅
Now as far as I know, iphones only accept 2 channels in and out .
The price difference between the 2 is only 48$ that's why I'm confused.
Any way thank you for your beautiful tutorials ❤❤
If anyone found an answer, please inform us 👋
Tqsm sir for sharing,great😊👍👍👍👍
Can this set-up be used for karaoke apps on iphone? like Smule, WeSing and StarMaker?
Absolutely , once the IOS system 'see's your audio interface via either the camera connection kit or USB-C ( in newer devices ) any IOS app can use the hardware. It is up to the app creator to determine the use case. In most cases all the IOS app ecosystem works the same ( garage band, voice recorder, etc ) as do most 3rd party apps.
This is how high end podcasters and live streamers get around having to use only their iPhone microphones.
You did a spectacular job demoing this, do you work for Soundcraft? If not, they should hire you 😂 thanks for the video. Great job 👏 nice stuff performance at the end too.
Thanks a lot!, I dont work for any of the gear companies I review, nor am I sponsored by them.
My Oh My. Great video.
Can we connect directly to iPhone using camera connector kit without USB hub?
Why USB hub is used? Since mixer is powered externally
On newer IOS devices you can, because USB-C computes it power requirements differently than the older Lightning connector based devices but you may still get the "This device draws too much power" warning. The USB hub is just a hack to get around the warning notice.
@@Featherlightstudio thank you for your valuable information
Great video! I have a question about the Notepad mixer. Let's say I'm in a remote location where I'm unable to plug into an AC outlet, is there a way to convert the DC into USB so I can use a portable charger to power the mixer? Of course taking the amount of volts/watts into consideration
Interesting idea for sure. As far as I am aware, the USB is only designed to handle data and not current of any kind.
Will this work with Android phones as well?
The Android Audio system has more variables for developers however, the newer USB-C based phones can do most of what is shown here.
can rca input and usb playback play together? or when using usb playback rca input is off
The USB digital playback is separate from the RCA inputs and takes over the channel when USB is used.
so it means they cant be used together right?
@@gethlunario Correct, its either, or.
Is this applicable in smartphones?
So is this setup reliant on a Soundcraft mixer in order to work?
Or can another kind of mixer with a USB out get the job done?
I have a Yamaha mixer. Am I out of luck? Let me know if there are any other mixers I can use with my iPhone to make the signal path you showed us here work.
Theoretically any mixer could work but it relies on the mixer being 'class compliant' meaning, no specific drivers are required. Like Apple Core Audio for example, most iOS devices use this driverless protocol.
How about in android? Same steps apply i suppose?
The newer Android devices are getting to be very similar to IOS in terms of latency so that makes things like streaming and music apps much faster and the process is very much the same. The older Android devices ( early Galaxy, etc ) unfortunately suffer from too much latency to really use effectively.
@@Featherlightstudio 👍 thank you for the information.
Hello! Thaks alot..that was insightful..can i use this on android using otg? I want to record directly into the smatphone's video?
Our experience with Android has been hit and miss. Many of the later models (Samsung, Sony) have worked but older models did not but, that was due entirely to the phone’s hardware and the version of Android used. The later versions of Android DO support low latency audio but it is up to the manufactures hardware to support it.
@@Featherlightstudio oh ohkayy..im using a oneplus 7..not sure if this would have the same issues..anyway thanks alot for replying😊
I’m currently using an iPhone 7. I bought the exact same equipment shown in this video and followed the instructions. Somehow I don’t get the same results.
For my current setup I have my mic in Channel 1 and my music in Channel 2. However, I can hear the music and my vocals through the mixer but when I press record on my phone to test audio music and vocals don’t come out and my phone microphone is still picking up the background.
If your phone microphone is still working, then your iPhone 7 is not seeing the mixer as an audio interface. Are you connecting the mixer via the Apple Camera Connection Kit AND going through a USB-3 hub? ( you may want to try another USB-3 Hub as not all are up to the Apple certification )
The best way to test if the mixer is correctly connected is to play back audio from your iTunes library on your phone. If it plays back through Channels 7/8 on the mixer, then it is connected correctly.
I’m sorry. I’m not understanding. Why didn’t you just plug directly into the camera connection adapter? Why did you have to plug-in to the USB hub before plugging in to the mixer? I thought you only use the hub adapter when you needed to have power?? You mentioned you weren’t using the power.
The reason we used the USB Hub was some of the older iOS devices ( iPhones/Ipads ) would detect the external device as drawing too much power and disable it. By using a USB Hub, you can effectively 'trick' the iOS device into bypassing the power detection notice.
@@Featherlightstudioany updated workaround to this? Its 2024 im sure there is an easy alternative to this.
@@jeffacuesta Most modern phones have USB-C now and can provide enough power to run the connection.
Hi
I just got my notepad,
As you cited on the video we don’t require any other extra hub since the mixer has it’s own power source.
However when I connect my iphone 11pro Max it says that the device “requires too much power”.. does it mean im doing something wrong? Or it cannot be used without a powered usb hub?
Eman Music Chef: We don't need to hub to power the Mixer as the Mixer is powered however, we DO need the hub to prevent our IOS device from 'trying' to power the mixer. If connected 'directly' from the phone to the Apple Camera Connection Kit OR directly to the USB-C port...your IOS device will try to power the Mixer and fail, giving you that message. The Hub prevents that.
@@Featherlightstudio does it make any difference between using USB 3 hub or USB 2 hub?
@@melodology-5383 The video uses a USB 2 hub so I can't imagine that a faster USB3 hub would work differently.
i cant get it to record audio . the videos i record
have no sound...
Hi, what was the recording app you mentioned aside from garage band. didnt quite catch that? thanks
I just use the IOS Photo App ( set to Video ) to quickly check levels and playback.
@@Featherlightstudio i cant get it to record the audio... i use the photo app but the video has no sound
@@Kapricorn Sounds like you IOS device is not seeing the Mixer as an Audio Interface. You can test if it is connected correctly by starting your music app. The music playback should return through mixer channels 7/8 on the Notepad 8FX, or Channels 9/10 on the Notepad 12FX
Hi..is this works on android phones?thank you.
This depends on how new the Android phone is, the models with USB-C have much better compatibility than the older models
TH-cam live: Iphone + Irig2 + soundcraft 8fx (conect in aux or fx) This is possible? Please help me.
Heh Luis, not totally sure what you are trying to do here but if you have the newer iRig2 ( Lightning Connector ) then it will want to be the Audio Interface instead of the 8fx. If you have another iOS device ( iPad ) , you could use that for the iRig and take the headphone out into the Mixer that's connected to the iPhone.
Can I connect an android phone to this soundcraft mixer?
That would depend on the Android phone. Android does not widely adopt the use of Class Compliant Drivers the way IOS does. It would be completely model dependent. Many of the newer Android phones DO support class compliant driver model now.