The Norwegians holed up in Sierra Nevada Spain prior to St George… seems like an amazing training facility…..and even though Flagstaff is much lower altitude in comparison, it’s still @7000 feet with the ability to go up to 9000 in a 15 minute drive….and it’s not in the middle of nowhere. It’s also cooler in the summer….such an amazing place.
Hey Lionel. I suffer badly with my mental health and so finding the motivation to train can often be insanely hard. One thing that always gets me pumped up to train though is your videos, so thanks! I'm going for Kona next year and I really hope a) I make it and b) I can meet you to say thanks! Really hope you win Worlds one day, inspirational!
Nice to see that all of your hard work in training over the last few years is paying off. I was most impressed at the small snippet of your swim stroke at minute 7.5 of the video. Your dedication to re-writing your swim form has paid off. Your arm recovery is so much more relaxed, and you have learned to throw it into the water rather than place it, resulting in tremendous generation of torque and acceleration on your pulling arm. I hope this serves as a lesson to all those triathletes that are trying to train at higher intensity to make up for their Technique deficit
Germans/Europeans for forever: "Altitude training is the key!" *winning everything through scientific proof* Lionel after 10 years as a pro: "There might be something to it, let's try it out!" :D
@@endlesscyclist1212 nope, although he hasnt tended to do that much he does go to andorra a fair amount and by the looks of things he is currently moving out of girona, possibly to andorra
I spend time between tx and colorado. 2 big things I've heard and agree with. 1. Your cardio system seems to track the co2 in your blood more than O2. So ramp up and down slowly, because a quick spike in effort can delpleat the O2 in your blood and it seems like your cardio system won't respond until you panic. 2.The thing you loose by being at altitude is pure power. Z4 and z5 work is much better at sea level. But for most visable results try to do a slightly above theashold workout the day you get back. If you do it by the numbers it will feel like a below threshold workout, and if you just keep hammering on it till you are exhausted, you will last like a below threshold workout.
Yep, have spent a fair deal of time training at altitudes up to 5500m (!) and my experience is that the easy/steady stuff is OK. But as soon as you push into the red, it's very hard to get back down again.
Lots of literature on the effects of living at altitudes, including increased stroke volume and RBC counts, to allow more efficient capture of O2 in the air. I’m not sure what the literature says on actually training up there, but merely living in a low pO2 environment compared to sea level will likely be beneficial if you were to race back at lower altitudes. Ensure you’re consuming adequate iron
Loads of studies also showing if you were born and brought up in an area with high altitude you naturally have higher levels of red blood cells, increased stroke volume etc which is really interesting
I once read that the best supplement to go alongside altitude training is a simultaneous increase in TH-cam video vollume, you should seriously consider this as an addition to your program, great adaptations!
Altitude really helps.i live at 2500 meters above sea level. sometimes I hike close to 4000 meters. and every summer when i go to the beach, the first days I am there my running feels like flying.
I'm moving in four weeks from sea level to 1800 meters. I appreciate the first person description of what to expect in terms of walking around and power numbers on the bike.
I’m glad you’re in FLG! I’ve lived here for 10 years and it’s a fairly unknown spot. Great running town and hopefully you’ll benefit on the bike and swim! We
Erin and Chewy appreciation DAY !!👍 👍👍👍 EXCELLENT 👍👍👍sometimes We take for granted what it that takes to keep the Team going ! All the support and sacrifices that they do .
So exciting to hear that you will be at Tremblant 70.3! I will be there as well, bringing up the back of the pack. Good luck with your ongoing training, it is always interesting to hear your comments and thoughts about what you are experiencing.
I was deployed in Kabul in 2003. Thats at 1800 m. I remember lots of the guys took of 30 sec to a min on their 3000 m run test after arrival home. I didnt recognize myself in a long bike climb. Had the feeling of being unstoppable compared to the old me before deployment
my college I swam at was at 7500 feet. To this day I can still kick out to 15m mark and do super hard hypoxic sets just cause my mind knows that its a lot harder at 7500ft. Altitude training is 100% real and it took us a few weeks to really get adapted.
Is really good to see you training using science in sports. Don’t forget you have hyperbaric chamber, that allows you to sleep in it and maintain altitude adaptation. Iron cowboy used that, and also big mountain climbers that don’t use oxygen to reach the tallest peaks in the world, sleep in that chambers to maintain the adaptaion
Nerd out on effortless swimming TH-cam Lionel. So many great tips on breathing and also stroke rate. Yours looks a little low. I think altitude will be a game changer for performance!
Looks like Lionel slimmed down considerably. While it's not always advisable it surely is, if you want to become the fastest man in LD Triathlon. I really hope it pays off, because he puts in so, so much.
What you have witnessed and kindfully shared with us were some experiences other endurance athletes from our national long distance running team have also told me about. The first view days (4-6 days) at altitude feel relatively easy because your body has not even realized what is happening. These easy days are followed by a period adjusting where the body responds and does the first small adaptations. This is when you feel really horrible (roughly day 3 to 5 days). When your body has adjusted, you start to feel better again. They have also told me about the difference in breathing: as you are not able to breath in as much oxygen in one breath as you normally do, your body responds via increasing your breathing frequency. It ´s basically the same as riding up a steep hill. As you can not push a big gear anymore, you need to switch to a lower gear and to increase your cadence. This change can of course be a bigger problem in swimming than in cycling or running because it interrupts your rhythm on the swim. But I am sure you will find ways to handle those challenges ;)
The down side is what you said at the start about heat. All training is at a lower intensity from a muscular point of view. This is why some go with live high, train low approach
Hi, you are referring to acclimation, not adaptation. Initially the body increases ventilation (rate, tidal vol) and resting HR, then (usually a few days to weeks) RBC increases and is less of a bandaid response. There are benefits and costs to training at altitude. The benefits can be different in scope and magnitude between individuals (some people have no training effect). The cons to training at altitude for a race at sea level is that the air is much denser and wetter at sea level (esp. Hawaii). This means you have to work harder to attain the same pace when back at sea level. Since the resistance of the water remains the same at altitude, I imagine swimming might see the most benefit. But, MOST importantly, there is more RESPIRATORY RESISTANCE at sea level (so you're losing respiratory gains by training in drier, thinner air). If you want to compete in a warm, most environment at sea level, to me it makes the most sense to train in those conditions... but I'm not an expert in the field, nor a pro athlete. Cheers.
dude yes, im in Tucson and that sun is blazing. if im not running at 5am, it is treadmill at the gym for me! its not only so hot on the skin but this super low humidity just SUCKS the fluid right out out of you! never mind sweating! my heart rate goes up way too fast when im trying to run outside in the middle of the day during these months.
Lionel -- a few comments, if I may: Roughtly speaking the physics goes like this: 1000m altitude: 10% less oxygen per breath 2000m altitude: 20% less oxygen per breath (about the height of major cols in the Tour de France and about where you are in Flagstaff) 3000m altitude: 30% less oxygen per breath 4000m altitude: 40% less oxygen per breath 5000m altitude: 50% less oxygen per breath (about the height of Mont Blanc - Europe's highest mountain) At 3000m it is common to feel a mild headache and some nausea until you're aclimatised. At 5000m then you will feel extremely weak unless fully aclimatised. You might even need to be choppered off the mountian as you could be very sick. I've personally found that after 4 weeks hard work at altitude (I'm an alpinist, but have raced Ironman) and then a 2 week rest period, I'm absolutely flying. I see a HUGE improvement. A Depends on your personal biochemistry, but for sure atitude training can have a major positive impact. Good luck with it!
The difference between being a winner and being number 2 - panic attacks during training. Hope your learning progress accelerates. Now think of what a good running form would help you achieve! You‘d be the GOAT!
Live High / Train low. There is even a whole hotel dediactaed to this philosophy in Denia, Spain owned by former olympian Alexander Kolobnev. Used a lot recently by the pro cycling teams. Ineos have been staying at the Parador hotel in Tenerife for over a decade for their training camps.
I’ve done some six day run races at altitude (9000-13000 ft) and I’m usually there for about 10-12 days each time and always feel like I get a little fitness boast when I get back home to sea level. Great video! Definitely make these a traditional, regular, ritual…RECURRING thing!
There is a rare editing glitch in this one! Lionel talks about the panic attack twice, basically reiterating what he said earlier. It's almost relieving to know Talbot's videos aren't always perfect.
Hallo Lionel! I'm traveling to Phoenix in July for work and I have been breaking my head over how to continue training in that heat.. Especially since I'm from the Netherlands where it's cold most of the year. Do you maybe have some tips on how to atleast maintain working out in the summer in Arizona? Would be awesome! Chris
Hey Lionel. Not sure if you read comments but I live in flag, train at FAC, and I’m training for my first Ironman (Ironman AZ). Would love to meet you.
We breathe at exercise like we breathe during rest… you’re right that hypoxia training is very important!!!! Check out Konstantinos Buteyko and more importantly Patrick Mckeown… changing the way you breathe will change your life. Has mine!
Do you get the same altitude effect training indoor as you would outdoors? I just noticed all bike and run sessions were indoor on the video. Always assumed altitude camps would be predominantly outdoor but could well be wrong.
Just a thought. You do most of your training at zone 2, high or low aerobic level, right? I have heard that type of training is good to do at altitude, but quality sessions that are meant to stimulate improvements in threshold, efficiency of movement, and VO2max are likely to be done at lower intensities than you are accustomed to. I am not familiar with the practices of triathletes training at altitude, but I have heard of some of the greatest marathon runners ever living at and training zone 2/the aerobic systems at altitude but traveling to lower altitude for quality session to maximize output during those session. An example is Ryan Hall, American marathon runner. I would listen to him talk about this practice on the Peter Attia Podcast episode 199 (th-cam.com/video/0gOHy74y1hE/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=PeterAttiaMD).
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Seems like Lionel is really enjoying training. Great to see
The Norwegians holed up in Sierra Nevada Spain prior to St George… seems like an amazing training facility…..and even though Flagstaff is much lower altitude in comparison, it’s still @7000 feet with the ability to go up to 9000 in a 15 minute drive….and it’s not in the middle of nowhere. It’s also cooler in the summer….such an amazing place.
Hey Lionel. I suffer badly with my mental health and so finding the motivation to train can often be insanely hard. One thing that always gets me pumped up to train though is your videos, so thanks! I'm going for Kona next year and I really hope a) I make it and b) I can meet you to say thanks! Really hope you win Worlds one day, inspirational!
I love this guy so much! What a character! Just always so awesome to hear from him. Thanks!!
lol yes recurring could be a word :)
Nice to see that all of your hard work in training over the last few years is paying off. I was most impressed at the small snippet of your swim stroke at minute 7.5 of the video. Your dedication to re-writing your swim form has paid off. Your arm recovery is so much more relaxed, and you have learned to throw it into the water rather than place it, resulting in tremendous generation of torque and acceleration on your pulling arm. I hope this serves as a lesson to all those triathletes that are trying to train at higher intensity to make up for their Technique deficit
Germans/Europeans for forever: "Altitude training is the key!"
*winning everything through scientific proof*
Lionel after 10 years as a pro: "There might be something to it, let's try it out!"
:D
Yeah, Germans think of everything. They should keep it a secret from the Kenyans though!
are germans not European?
Jan Frodenos last altitude training was a decade ago.
@@endlesscyclist1212 He was in Andorra multiple times
@@endlesscyclist1212 nope, although he hasnt tended to do that much he does go to andorra a fair amount and by the looks of things he is currently moving out of girona, possibly to andorra
I spend time between tx and colorado. 2 big things I've heard and agree with. 1. Your cardio system seems to track the co2 in your blood more than O2. So ramp up and down slowly, because a quick spike in effort can delpleat the O2 in your blood and it seems like your cardio system won't respond until you panic. 2.The thing you loose by being at altitude is pure power. Z4 and z5 work is much better at sea level. But for most visable results try to do a slightly above theashold workout the day you get back. If you do it by the numbers it will feel like a below threshold workout, and if you just keep hammering on it till you are exhausted, you will last like a below threshold workout.
Yep, have spent a fair deal of time training at altitudes up to 5500m (!) and my experience is that the easy/steady stuff is OK. But as soon as you push into the red, it's very hard to get back down again.
Lots of literature on the effects of living at altitudes, including increased stroke volume and RBC counts, to allow more efficient capture of O2 in the air. I’m not sure what the literature says on actually training up there, but merely living in a low pO2 environment compared to sea level will likely be beneficial if you were to race back at lower altitudes. Ensure you’re consuming adequate iron
Loads of studies also showing if you were born and brought up in an area with high altitude you naturally have higher levels of red blood cells, increased stroke volume etc which is really interesting
That's why, one of the things, that made Kenyan runners so great. Altitude and low oxygen, the adaptation of this means evolution
@@rageMEISTERgs Chris Froome grew up in Kenya too! got the lungs of a Kenyan runner, put him on a bike, he wins world titles :)
@@Amanda.c91 great to know this about Froome.
But it's something that I noticed recently. Kenya yeld the best endurance trainings
@Willmatecycling lol true that! I say let em all take what they want and end the negative taboo. they all take the stuff anyways hehe.
I'm a simple man. I see Lionel Sanders, I click like!
I once read that the best supplement to go alongside altitude training is a simultaneous increase in TH-cam video vollume, you should seriously consider this as an addition to your program, great adaptations!
Altitude really helps.i live at 2500 meters above sea level. sometimes I hike close to 4000 meters. and every summer when i go to the beach, the first days I am there my running feels like flying.
I'm moving in four weeks from sea level to 1800 meters. I appreciate the first person description of what to expect in terms of walking around and power numbers on the bike.
I’m glad you’re in FLG! I’ve lived here for 10 years and it’s a fairly unknown spot. Great running town and hopefully you’ll benefit on the bike and swim! We
Awesome you are going to race Mont Tremblant - see you there!
Lower oxygen is a game changer, best of luck hunting the #1 spot!
Erin and Chewy appreciation DAY !!👍 👍👍👍 EXCELLENT 👍👍👍sometimes We take for granted what it that takes to keep the Team going ! All the support and sacrifices that they do .
So exciting to hear that you will be at Tremblant 70.3! I will be there as well, bringing up the back of the pack. Good luck with your ongoing training, it is always interesting to hear your comments and thoughts about what you are experiencing.
Niiiiice! Just Erin behind the cam and the Lion. Lol.... traditional, regular, recurring could be a word :-)
Lionel is growing. Like that ✌🏽
I was deployed in Kabul in 2003. Thats at 1800 m. I remember lots of the guys took of 30 sec to a min on their 3000 m run test after arrival home. I didnt recognize myself in a long bike climb. Had the feeling of being unstoppable compared to the old me before deployment
my college I swam at was at 7500 feet. To this day I can still kick out to 15m mark and do super hard hypoxic sets just cause my mind knows that its a lot harder at 7500ft. Altitude training is 100% real and it took us a few weeks to really get adapted.
Is really good to see you training using science in sports. Don’t forget you have hyperbaric chamber, that allows you to sleep in it and maintain altitude adaptation. Iron cowboy used that, and also big mountain climbers that don’t use oxygen to reach the tallest peaks in the world, sleep in that chambers to maintain the adaptaion
Been there on the high elevation, swim panic attack due to low O2. It's freaky. Hang in there boss!
Nerd out on effortless swimming TH-cam Lionel. So many great tips on breathing and also stroke rate. Yours looks a little low. I think altitude will be a game changer for performance!
Keep em coming. I like to rewatch em all throughout the week before or while I’m training. Great stuff!!!
Thanks for the insights and for sharing! All the best for what's coming up next! 🙂
Looks like Lionel slimmed down considerably.
While it's not always advisable it surely is, if you want to become the fastest man in LD Triathlon.
I really hope it pays off, because he puts in so, so much.
Great dude
Lionel, bravo! Altitude is since 1970' known und proven. But you need to watch the intensity and iron level ib the blood.
What you have witnessed and kindfully shared with us were some experiences other endurance athletes from our national long distance running team have also told me about. The first view days (4-6 days) at altitude feel relatively easy because your body has not even realized what is happening. These easy days are followed by a period adjusting where the body responds and does the first small adaptations. This is when you feel really horrible (roughly day 3 to 5 days). When your body has adjusted, you start to feel better again. They have also told me about the difference in breathing: as you are not able to breath in as much oxygen in one breath as you normally do, your body responds via increasing your breathing frequency. It ´s basically the same as riding up a steep hill. As you can not push a big gear anymore, you need to switch to a lower gear and to increase your cadence. This change can of course be a bigger problem in swimming than in cycling or running because it interrupts your rhythm on the swim. But I am sure you will find ways to handle those challenges ;)
The down side is what you said at the start about heat. All training is at a lower intensity from a muscular point of view. This is why some go with live high, train low approach
Gets you ready for training in old age like me…..a good warmup is an absolute must to open up your lungs:-)
Hi, you are referring to acclimation, not adaptation. Initially the body increases ventilation (rate, tidal vol) and resting HR, then (usually a few days to weeks) RBC increases and is less of a bandaid response. There are benefits and costs to training at altitude. The benefits can be different in scope and magnitude between individuals (some people have no training effect). The cons to training at altitude for a race at sea level is that the air is much denser and wetter at sea level (esp. Hawaii). This means you have to work harder to attain the same pace when back at sea level. Since the resistance of the water remains the same at altitude, I imagine swimming might see the most benefit. But, MOST importantly, there is more RESPIRATORY RESISTANCE at sea level (so you're losing respiratory gains by training in drier, thinner air). If you want to compete in a warm, most environment at sea level, to me it makes the most sense to train in those conditions... but I'm not an expert in the field, nor a pro athlete. Cheers.
This is where the idea of train low, live and sleep high comes from. So you get the best of both worlds.
dude yes, im in Tucson and that sun is blazing. if im not running at 5am, it is treadmill at the gym for me! its not only so hot on the skin but this super low humidity just SUCKS the fluid right out out of you! never mind sweating! my heart rate goes up way too fast when im trying to run outside in the middle of the day during these months.
Ooh, norwegian altitude camp
Lionel -- a few comments, if I may:
Roughtly speaking the physics goes like this:
1000m altitude: 10% less oxygen per breath
2000m altitude: 20% less oxygen per breath (about the height of major cols in the Tour de France and about where you are in Flagstaff)
3000m altitude: 30% less oxygen per breath
4000m altitude: 40% less oxygen per breath
5000m altitude: 50% less oxygen per breath (about the height of Mont Blanc - Europe's highest mountain)
At 3000m it is common to feel a mild headache and some nausea until you're aclimatised.
At 5000m then you will feel extremely weak unless fully aclimatised. You might even need to be choppered off the mountian as you could be very sick.
I've personally found that after 4 weeks hard work at altitude (I'm an alpinist, but have raced Ironman) and then a 2 week rest period, I'm absolutely flying. I see a HUGE improvement. A
Depends on your personal biochemistry, but for sure atitude training can have a major positive impact.
Good luck with it!
lets gooooo!!!! discord gang
Yea swimming at altitude is great, love it in adh 👍😎
You are a legend lionel
Awesome training venue! Make sure you increase your hydration and carb consumption as the body is naturally working harder at altitude, even at rest.
Becoming unbeatable 🚀
You must have a big ❤️. Your heart doesn't have to beat as fast as person with a smaller heart.
You can do hill repeats climbing Bryce Canyon. :)
OH YEAH!!! Lionel is coming back to Mont-Tremblant!!! See you there!!! :)
Central Mexico is excellent for altitude training (6,000ft / 1,800m): Low oxygen, low cost, stable weather and nutritious food 🇲🇽 🌮🏃♂️
The difference between being a winner and being number 2 - panic attacks during training. Hope your learning progress accelerates. Now think of what a good running form would help you achieve! You‘d be the GOAT!
Jack Daniels running formula book! Pretty good read for altitude training. Plus, Pro cyclists have been doing it for years and years.
Somebody tell me Lionel does strength work…perhaps a killer video on that aspect of his training??!! PLEASE!
Live High / Train low.
There is even a whole hotel dediactaed to this philosophy in Denia, Spain owned by former olympian Alexander Kolobnev. Used a lot recently by the pro cycling teams.
Ineos have been staying at the Parador hotel in Tenerife for over a decade for their training camps.
the beginning is gold hahahah
Love the comment @ 4:00 relative to swimming @ altitude
Spend 2 months at Flagstaff and then come run some laps in San Diego on Fiesta Island. You'll be amazed.
I’ve done some six day run races at altitude (9000-13000 ft) and I’m usually there for about 10-12 days each time and always feel like I get a little fitness boast when I get back home to sea level. Great video! Definitely make these a traditional, regular, ritual…RECURRING thing!
This seems like a really good call
Do you use a hyperbolic chamber to recover?
^ Erin appreciator
you started to question the seefood. HAHAHAH
Series 🥵
Foo, I get hungy now for an Home made Burger - but Fridge is empty 😒
I went once at altitude in Tigne, one of the highest Sky ressort in France. I couldn't climb the stairs without beeing 180bpm lol
you could start these vlogs always with a new word of a day kind of a thing, like in purple patch podcast, but take it from your own world :)
Yes. Appreciate the Mrs. she is your rock. Go hunt down the cococino cowboys in flagstaff. You need some run buddies.
There is a rare editing glitch in this one! Lionel talks about the panic attack twice, basically reiterating what he said earlier. It's almost relieving to know Talbot's videos aren't always perfect.
He didn't that's why
Can't wait till you spend a month in altitude then drop down to sea level for some speed work. You'll definitely feel a boost.
You are dragging your right foot in swing phase. You don't lift it as high as your left leg; that's why you look like you have a hitch in your gait.
scheduled
Words are hard. 😉
Reoccurring video Vlogs!? I’M IN! 🔥
Hallo Lionel! I'm traveling to Phoenix in July for work and I have been breaking my head over how to continue training in that heat.. Especially since I'm from the Netherlands where it's cold most of the year. Do you maybe have some tips on how to atleast maintain working out in the summer in Arizona?
Would be awesome!
Chris
Same oxygen, less partial pressure 😜
Hi Lionel! Can you talk about philosophy of Buddhism in context of your career. Because i suspect that it has a major role in it :)
Team Norway ... team Norway ... - look at VITS - that helps 😜👍 ... swimming topic first ... but even more
Moreeeeee videos plz
It doesn't solve the heat problem in Tucson, but have you considered living up on Mt Lemmon and training in town?
Any plans to go back to the disc brake Speedmax?
Is that the same pool Gustav was swimming in for his build to Florida videos?
I wants to know or if you do what's your body workouts like?
Hey Lionel. Not sure if you read comments but I live in flag, train at FAC, and I’m training for my first Ironman (Ironman AZ). Would love to meet you.
You’re late to the party Lionel, the Norwegians have had altitude trying since they are 18.
I think you're looking for the word: routine, Lionel 🙃 I much prefer your less polite words though 😁
🙅🏽♂️🙅🏽♂️🙅🏽♂️🙅🏽♂️ we need them more haha
Surely Mikel is giving him some guidelines to altitude training, can't possibly be this naive
Para cuando subtitulado en Español???
So what‘s the status on his bike? Garneau shirt and old Canyon bike? Is he changing bike sponsor to end of the season?
where is that pool in flagstaff?
Behind every great man, there has to be a great woman... my poor wife 🤣 Good luck bud
We breathe at exercise like we breathe during rest… you’re right that hypoxia training is very important!!!! Check out Konstantinos Buteyko and more importantly Patrick Mckeown… changing the way you breathe will change your life. Has mine!
Does anyone know Lionel’s typical 100m swim pace ?
1:17-1:21 per 100 yards typical. Can go much faster on intervals but that's his avg per session
what are those headphones that Lionel wears during his workouts called?
Could be Aftershokz
Routine is the word your lookin for.
“Customary”
Conventional?
Reoccurring*
Panic attacks in the pool are DREADFUL.
Do you get the same altitude effect training indoor as you would outdoors? I just noticed all bike and run sessions were indoor on the video. Always assumed altitude camps would be predominantly outdoor but could well be wrong.
100% to do with the altitude and fewer oxygen molecules, and nothing to do with being indoor/outdoor
doesn't really matter, it's about oxygen supply
@@benjaminberlin Cheers 👍
Bro you need to run outside!!!
Just a thought. You do most of your training at zone 2, high or low aerobic level, right? I have heard that type of training is good to do at altitude, but quality sessions that are meant to stimulate improvements in threshold, efficiency of movement, and VO2max are likely to be done at lower intensities than you are accustomed to. I am not familiar with the practices of triathletes training at altitude, but I have heard of some of the greatest marathon runners ever living at and training zone 2/the aerobic systems at altitude but traveling to lower altitude for quality session to maximize output during those session. An example is Ryan Hall, American marathon runner. I would listen to him talk about this practice on the Peter Attia Podcast episode 199 (th-cam.com/video/0gOHy74y1hE/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=PeterAttiaMD).
Shout Out to Matt_Mac Flagstaff Vibes.
To everyone looking to train in Arizona. We are full. We have no more room.
Old fashioned?