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Anyone who was paying attention would’ve seen F1 continually moving the goalposts in regards to Andretti. Absolutely absurd that they would suggest Andretti can’t be competitive, I guarantee they could at least beat a Haas, Williams, or Stake car.
Moving the goal post was a start: ignoring their own process to enter. Then not keeping it up to date and trying to update it quickly to keep them out.
@@JimEngle-cd9fk you can't compare a spec series to a formula series. Andretti has a successful history in motorsports. Just because they suck in one series doesn't mean they'll suck in another. That's like saying an employee who's been fired for bad performance will always have bad performance. There's a multitude of reasons that employee could have sucked at their job but excel somewhere else.
I have to agree with you. The thumbnails that some of the F1 clowns post are infuriating. This yapper in his roof has given every video some serious prior thought. I'm not even heavily into F1. I'm interested, but id never blow $200 AUD on a t shirt. Yet i watch quite a few of his videos. I can't really explain it. I just like the dude.
@@alimantado373Genuine question but why are you against Andretti joining the sport? What do you as a viewer (because I highly doubt you own any of the teams so you don’t lose any money regardless) have nothing to lose by him joining
@@joxay Read my previous statement. American teams are only interested in dollars , not the legacy. Im a long term fan 1976 is when I was old enough to start following the sport. Also I dont like what Liberty media has done toF1 either.
I say F it, go back to the 70s and anyone that can pay the entry fee can enter and attempt to qualify for the GP. But seriously, the teams should realize that its all about money and adding Andretti to the lineup would increase everybody's piece of the F1 pie. Not to mention it gives drivers another venue for drivers to enter.
Thing is, they think they can increase the pie without Andretti... And I think they're right, because they hold pretty much a monopoly on _mainstream_ motorsports.
You are correct about Haas not being a household name. When I think of Haas I don't think of the team, I think of the CNC machines. When I first got in to F1, I legit thought "the CNC company has a team, huh weird"
@@SonicSpeed0705 Where Haas is a silent partner who leaves it up to his partner Tony Stewart to be the face of the team, and Gene uses the team as a billboard/tax write-off just like he does in F1. Fact is Haas F1 team can't meet the requirements demanded of Andretti, same with Williams. Yet they can demand more of any new team. Protectionism at it's finest.
It is pretty obvious what FOM is trying to do and it is extremely vile. All teams agreed to the last Concorde Agreement and now that the value of F1 teams have become overinflated they want to capitalize on that by denying Andretti. Using only subjective reasoning to be able to stall just long enough for them to draft a new Concorde Agreement so they can charge Andretti a higher fee. Mark my words if Andretti doesn't get approved before the new draft then as soon as it is finalized F1 will invite Andretti with open arms.
Why not? They built the foundation now some US team want a piece of the pie? I dont blame them. Think of how much money these teams have put in over the decades in development. Where in Motorsport outside the USA have Cadillac been successful? If Andretti get Ford engines they will have a better chance. Heres a suggestion NFL , NBA, MLB allow other World teams into World series, SuperBowl .... silence . I thought so.
Who actually plays American football though? I think they would get a kick out of watching a euro team get wiped every year. Cause we know that's exactly what would happen.
@@alimantado373then increase the pie so they can increase the slices. Cadillac or GM has been widely successful in Motorsports outside the US for decades and with their LDMH they’ve shown to be a reputable competitor in imsa. And besides Andretti has to pay to be able to race in F1 anyway which does increase the pot so if they don’t win their money goes to someone else on the grid. It’s a very simple problem with a very simple solution
@@assassinproject5586 Except the cost cap brought in By Americans ( Liberty) doesnt allow that. The pie is 8 slices not 12 Did you listen to the recent interview with Adrian Newey, about stifling development? We used to see amazing concepts, now it is sterilized. Might as well be all Dallara chassis not World manufacturers, F1 is not about that.
I think moving the goal post is a understatement started out with “ you don’t have the facilities “ once that was no longer an issue it became “ you don’t bring any value on your own “ they brought Cadillac. Than it became “ it’s a glorified sponsorship, they need to make your engine” than GM pledges to make the engine in 2028. Than it became “ it’s too much of a burden in Renault “ when Renault themselves said they’re fine with it even if it’s short term as they need the money. And FINALLY it became “ it’s too much of a burden in race promoters” when the Concorde agreement was designed to allow 12 teams, let alone 11 meaning FOM hasn’t even following the Concorde agreement that they’re using to reject Andretti to begin with
@@Reiver-93 agreed. There is zero aspectation of a young talent to get into F1 when there are teams not willing to gamble on a rookie and trowing in the same old experienced drivers into the cars. Like Hülkenberg comming back to the sport and now even signed with Audi. Magnussen comming back and driving like a maniac right now disgracing. Seargent having no skills to be in F1 and just drivinng here because hes American (altough that seems to be comming to an end soon). Stroll just driving because daddy owns the team and hurting the championship. Of the 20 drivers in F1 now, atleast 3-4 could be kicked straight away and replaced by talented rookies from F2. The last influx of fresh blood was the Max Verstappen era with Norris/Lecrec/Russel/Albon/Ocon/Gasley who all drove together in karting and lower formula championships. The only suprise we have had now was Piastri, who thankfully got stolen by McLaren instead withering away at Alpine.
The other issue that Liberty Media has is their other company is currently being scrutinized by lawmakers in the US for monopolistic behaviour with Ticketmaster. They are already kinda on the wrong side of things and if lawmakers want, they can use this case as ammunition in that case cause honestly there is no logical reason to decline them other than the seemingly overnight popularity of the sport. They keep moving the goal post and Andretti keeps meeting their requirements. Also, with the FIA signing off, it gives Liberty Media less of a leg to stand on when they are being questioned. I know some people might feel why US politicians involving themselves in F1 a predominantly European sport but unfortunately, Liberty Media is a US company they are subject to their rules and laws.
Man i kinda call it, as soon andretti got main stream attention and bipartisan support it would be impossible for Lm to ignore without consequences. Now i wonder how lm will respond to this
i just hope they get in without LM kicking a team out...i hope it goes naturally 11 teams and no kicking off haas behind the scenes just to make it justified
@@mrbungle3310 as much i wouldn't mind Haas not being in f1 anymore, i also don't want to see them leave you know? Like I'm still holding out hope for a Haas top 3 constructors season
@@mattiasgarbi9470 Sure and Williams not under Toto thumb? Rumoured to kick Logan for Kimi even during this season because Toto is scared he loses another Max Verstappen caliber driver. And even Haas has to much Italian influence. There ar 3 teams that arnt opperating completely solo and could be considered a B-team. Thats VCARB to RBR, Willimas to Mercedes and on some level Haas to Ferrari.
Thank God you got an actual f1 related sponsor. 1. I actually watched the ad and didn’t skip, 2. I might even get one of those bracelets, the senna one caught my eye
Aren’t the teams and Liberty beholden to the Concorde agreement? If that agreement allows for an extra team, and Andretti meets all requirements, they should be allowed in. Simple as that. File a suit at CAS.
Which is why the teams are trying to change it. So by the Concorde agreement in place currently, 12 teams can compete but the teams MUST agree to share/split the pot. The teams aren't doing so, which means Andretti could technically show up and race...but even if they win, they wouldn't get the prize money. The current Concorde Agreement basically excludes teams from having to share the prize money unless they themselves vote unanimously to share the prize money with a new entry....unsurprisingly they voted against Andretti from getting a share of the prize pool...
It’s insane that WEC can add new teams like throwing your spare change in the coin jar. I watch WEC for the hypercar category not really any other classes. But they’re just like oh yea BMW you want in? Comme on in, Lamborghini you too? Why of course! Alpine you want to join as well? Well don’t be as embarrassing as you are in F1, but come on into the grid. While F1 is sitting over here, complaining about how there isn’t a close enough fight for the title blah blah, yet more teams and more drivers, oh absolutely not, we will not do anything to benefit the sport, the fans and drivers that simply can’t get a seat yet are arguably more talented than current drivers on the grid.
This is slightly off subject but who else has realised since the emergence of andretti as a prospect on the grid haas have pulled up their socks and actually started performing well like they feel as if their position in F1 has been threatened
FOM, just take the "L" on this one. You've managed to unite one of the most dysfunctional legislative bodies in the world against you in a year when everyone is looking to get attention. Just take Andretti's money and let him in...
as an american f1 red bull fan since the aston martin renault days i am absolutely APPALLED that andretti is being denied at all ESPECIALLY because they don’t think they will be competitive based on how alpine, kick sauber, and williams currently are doing in 2024 is an absolute joke.
You could actually argue Andretti has a leg up on other teams that want to join because they have experience with ground effect cars since that's the majority of IndyCar's aero
I am glad you are keeping up with this story. As an American I expected FOM to let Andretti/Caddilac in. I see FOM as the Comercial rights h8lder but FIA owns the league. The way I see it is when FIA approved entry the only rights FOM has is to create the contract for the commercial rights with Andretti /Caddilac to show them on TV. LET THEM IN. They will get in one way or another. They will not give up. Law keep up the good work..
There are alot of pieces to this. Gainbridge owner is part owner of Andretti and a tier sponsor of alot of F1 cars and races. Liberty media is a US company and if the government goes digging and finds them guilty of the Sherman act, the whole f1 circus will not be allowed to operate in it's borders. Think the UK has a similar law but not sure. So greed on behalf of Liberty and the team owners could really stop them cold. Remember, our government is pretty dumb but they managed to convict and jail gangsters on tax evasion and not murder, when murder was the obvious crime. Just sayin, Liberty could be screwed or we're gonna see Andretti on the grid very soon.
If you read the third question of the original request for information it looks more like a shot at Mercedes, Ferrari, Renault & Audi as car makers, gaining an unfair advantage by their position in F1 to promote their products. Congress is pushing all the levers
I already wrote my Congessman on their behalf. I also wrote Raytheon and Boeing to tell them there is Oil in the engines. Can’t wait to see what happens.
Count Me In as a new American fan to your channel! And thank you for being the only European person to acknowledge how good Cadillac has been in other leagues of racing. For some reason Europeans don't want to acknowledge that LOL. Also love the humor of your videos! Keep up the good work!
Will be interesting when the Cadillac representative is questioned under oath: "Did any existing Formula One Team(s) approach you regarding a partnership after Andretti/Caddy was announced"
With Congress getting involved to defend American interests in F1, Sky Sports had better get rid of Danica Patrick quick, or we'll be stuck with her forever.
Better than that other female "driver" who's hair wouldn't fit in a crash helmet that Sky uses, and never amounted to anything worth talking about. We all know why she is there and which boxes are being checked off!!
As an American Fan I'd love to See Andretti in F1. I don't necessarily think we need more American teams but Haas has shown they don't have the money necessary to move up the order, and honestly I think they are completely content battling for P8 and P9 in the constructors every year. A team like Andretti that want to win and has the money to chase those goals would draw a lot more fans.
A sponsor!? This might be the first time I haven’t skipped forward a sponsor segment on TH-cam 😮 I’m calling it now, you will have 100K subs by the end of the year
I would love to see that, it would be the biggest middle finger to F1's argument that they wouldn't be competitive. "You want us to be competitive? Well we now have in our employ they man who helped to design championship winning cars."
As a Californian, Miami GP is one of the few I don't have to lose sleep over. i'm not surprised at the ratings. Just California is around 15% of the nations population.
Refusing a team entry becaue they "wouldnt be competitive" considering the current state of the league with less than 3/4 of the league being competitve is a slap in the face.
I know that technically "estate" can refer to a living person's wealth as well, but "the estates of Senna and Michael Schumacher" feels especially sad.
As an American and s racing fan i have no clue as to what business the US Congress has getting involved with who does or doesn't get an team in F 1. If Congress should put their efforts into corporate price gouging of the citizens. Let the FIA, F-1, and Andretti Autosport work this out. This is not an international conflict. Congress needs to govern and get out of sports. Each sport has its own governing body it's their job to work things out not my elected officials.
Before I watch the video. I do have to say this I hoped Logan Sargeant helps Andretti to be a F1 team in the grid so he can have a drive for them screw Williams they are planning to sacked him in favor of Antonelli why don't they give Antonelli one more year in F2 honestly Williams and James Vowles shame on you. Ok now I will watch it.
Its because Toto is scared to lose another Max Verstappen caliber driver. With Max, Mercedes wanted him, offered him a contract and to drive F2 because there was no seat at Mercedes that year. And Helmut was like 'hold my bradwurst' and put him in the Torro Rosso skipping F2. Toto is to scared someone will snatch Kimi from under him again by offering him a seat for next year. For example Haas is already down 1 driver and Kevin is driving like a maniac atm disgracing F1 IMO. And Gunther said to never run a season with 2 rookies. But Gunther is gone and i realy think Ferrari gona park Bearman at Haas and would not be surprised Haas pulling the same move as Helmut did and snag Kimi away and put him in the car for next year. I think Ferrari will be delighted to get Kimi in the Ferrari academy and eventualy replace Leclerc and Hamilton with Bearman and Antionelli. So conclusion, I understand why Toto/Vowles are making these plans/deals behind the scenes to prevent a scenario like this.
As an American who has been watching F1 since the V8 era cars, I would hate to have to stop watching. However, if F1 can't stop being ridiculous then I will stop watching. I hope the rest of my country stops watching too until they stop with their nonsense and just let Andretti in. It would do nothing but benefit the sport, but corporate greed is getting in the way. If I were any good with social media and could gather a solid platform ad follower base, I would use it to convince all of my fellow American viewers to boycott the sport until they let Andretti in and I would make a petition for everybody to sign.
They don’t want Andretti because they know he will be competitive right from the start. He will also open the door for Rahal, Penske, or Ganassi to come in and be number 12. F1 needs the US market and F1 needs more seats for drivers. Greed is the only thing in the way.
I really hope they get on to the grid. I would love to know what the big issue was with them in the first place. Definitely seems like there is a grudge against Andretti. I've never even heard any ideas as to what it could be and it leaves me very confused as they seem to tick pretty much every box that liberty media are looking for.
I think the problem goes back to when Mario was racing in F1. They did not like Mario living in the USA and competing in F1. Michael got a raw deal in F1.
If Williams kick out Sargent Andretti should sign him. It will give Sargent something to do like test driving or media, and it will legitimatise Andretti as an American Team with a American f1 driver. He may not be the best driver but he is still an f1 driver
I know ppl hate on drive to survive but it’s the sole reason my wife and I got into f1 and haven’t missed a race in two seasons! It was a good entrance for non race fans
I have a feeling that is going to go all the way up to the DOJ and that it might result in a F1 vs US Government antitrust lawsuit. Personally I would love to see Andretti get all the big names in indycar under one roof for its F1 team.
The next thing is FOM will create the new concord agreement with max 10 teams--there ya go, no one can complain? Liberty is an American company, so if they engage in anti-competitive behavior, then they will get smacked. I am with them on this. FOM and the existing 10 teams are out of line.
The European F1 teams should remember that this year... is election season. Half of the seats of these lawmakers' seats are on the line. And these guys will do anything to make sure that their names will be remembered by their constituents come election day.
The BSCUK Thinktank identified as far back as 2010. Theultimate structure of F1 would be three regional leagues based on the same rules. The final winnners and teams would be global champions,bit like the World Cup. This was deamed too difficult to control and when the pademic arrived followed by GEO politics. That was not a sport organisation the fans wanted; leading to collapse of the sport.
I mean two teams that applied at the same time and where rejected are Carlin and Hitech, who currently run F2 and F3 teams. Imagine if one of them got approved and fom let them in no problems.
How can you be the "pinnacle of motorsport" when you refuse an entire continent of car manufacturers and teams? Every hoop Liberty Media put in front of Andretti, they have jumped through. Keep moving the goal posts back further and further. Someone doesn't know about American grit and determination.
@@cosminlesutan3574 then get your series off the continent. Take all the tracks, all the eurotrash cars, and stay in Europe. At least in indycar, we have different champions every year. Not 3 different champions in the last 14 years. And if North America means nothing, why are there 4 tracks with a 5th one coming?
There is a meteorological term that is appropriate for this situation, and the definition of said term applies to this very well, and it is called Rapid Intensification.
Monogrip are working with an ever decreasing amount of tires since they now get shredded and burned. To be honest I’m surprised there are any tires left available for them to make the bracelets unless they have gotten their hands on one tire and putting a fleck of it in each bracelet.
The fact the teams have ANYTHING to say is soooo stupid. Like they have such a bias, of course as a team you want as little other cars on the grid, if there are only 8 cars on the grid you are ever only 4 positions away from points. SO WHY DO THEY HAVE ANYTHING YO SAY
It's pretty ironic that they US government is complaining about it being a closed system, they should maybe look at thei whole sports system where there are no promotions and relegations and where teams will move several thousands of miles away if a town/city/state offers a new stadium and other financial benefits. And I do personally feel Andretti have screwed up in a major way from the off, its ok going around and showing how you are working towards a car being ready for 2026 BUT show exactly how you finically are going to grow the sport. The problem with Andretti is alot of the sponsors that you think of around them are either already in F1 or they are companies with an America Focus and whom are unlikely to be able to justify spending F1 levels to have a sponsorship that over 90% of the people who see it are in markets you don't operate in. They should have come to the table with written letters of intent from Sponsors who committed to Sponsoring Andretti and where any sponsor they lined up who already sponsors another team would agree not to pull their sponsor from this team for x number of years. That way they would show how they aren't pulling any income from other teams and instead are bringing new companies into the fold
Wouldn't it be possible to amend the Concorde agreement (and insert into the next one) to expand the prize pool (and payouts to all teams) if a team meets the requirements and joins the series up to 11, 12 or 13 teams.
The arguments against against Andretti are rubbish. Ten teams are being funded for twelve, Liberty Media has increased F1 income from DTS and the American Market that could easily increase the prize pool for all the teams. I told everyone a long time ago that what Liberty Media was doing was unlawful and anti-competition and yes that they were shifting the goal posts. Then you have Audi jumping the queue.
First off, my man finally got himself a big-time sponsor! As for the Andretti situation, I never thought I'd see the day where congress would actually work together on something, never thought it would take F1 of all things to accomplish that! Its just a shame it's even come to this, but they (Formula 1) alone got themselves in this mess.
F1 needs to be careful. I see a lot of American fans moving over to IndyCar already. They have 3 GP in the United States now but no “real” US team. Andretti name is a big pull in the US. I think they underestimate how much. Serves them right if their greed results in them losing 50 percent of US DTS fans to IndyCar and NASCAR in the near future.
While I am a supporter of Andretti coming in to F1, the American Congress getting involved with F1 using anti-trust laws is not going to work. Currently, there is 1 team from America in F1 and there are 3 GPs held in America each year, more than any other country in the world. So Congress getting involved, threatening legal action, will go nowhere.
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@@unarii3599 poor you
congrats on the sponsor
FIA CEO Natalie Robyn resigned the other day.
Anyone who was paying attention would’ve seen F1 continually moving the goalposts in regards to Andretti. Absolutely absurd that they would suggest Andretti can’t be competitive, I guarantee they could at least beat a Haas, Williams, or Stake car.
Moving the goal post was a start: ignoring their own process to enter. Then not keeping it up to date and trying to update it quickly to keep them out.
And Toro Rosso..
*Sauber
That's exactly why I would vote no, I don't want to see another subprime team when Andretti is already subprime in Indy race series.
@@JimEngle-cd9fk you can't compare a spec series to a formula series. Andretti has a successful history in motorsports. Just because they suck in one series doesn't mean they'll suck in another. That's like saying an employee who's been fired for bad performance will always have bad performance. There's a multitude of reasons that employee could have sucked at their job but excel somewhere else.
This guy's videos are REAL. Not the Click Bait Shite that almost every F1 site has become. I love this guy.
I have to agree with you. The thumbnails that some of the F1 clowns post are infuriating. This yapper in his roof has given every video some serious prior thought. I'm not even heavily into F1. I'm interested, but id never blow $200 AUD on a t shirt. Yet i watch quite a few of his videos. I can't really explain it. I just like the dude.
Aw shucks. Law got a sponsor.
They grow up so fast... *sheds single joyous tear*
My first thought too….. well done brother!!
In the words of Gunther F1 is looking like “a bunch of foking vankers” with this Andretti saga.
Gunther to Andretti🤔 would be pretty neat
🤣🤣in the words of an AMERICAN... Cry Much!!!
@@alimantado373Genuine question but why are you against Andretti joining the sport? What do you as a viewer (because I highly doubt you own any of the teams so you don’t lose any money regardless) have nothing to lose by him joining
@@joxay Read my previous statement. American teams are only interested in dollars , not the legacy. Im a long term fan 1976 is when I was old enough to start following the sport. Also I dont like what Liberty media has done toF1 either.
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This is probably the only sponsorship segment I'll gladly watch, so happy for you Law!
I say F it, go back to the 70s and anyone that can pay the entry fee can enter and attempt to qualify for the GP.
But seriously, the teams should realize that its all about money and adding Andretti to the lineup would increase everybody's piece of the F1 pie. Not to mention it gives drivers another venue for drivers to enter.
facts I want to see pre qualifying come back
Thing is, they think they can increase the pie without Andretti... And I think they're right, because they hold pretty much a monopoly on _mainstream_ motorsports.
This argument doesn't stack up, unless they can raise the prize pool by 10% it simply isn't financially beneficial for them.
You are correct about Haas not being a household name. When I think of Haas I don't think of the team, I think of the CNC machines. When I first got in to F1, I legit thought "the CNC company has a team, huh weird"
When I think Haas I think of Stewart-Haas Racing, which is a NASCAR team.
@@SonicSpeed0705 Where Haas is a silent partner who leaves it up to his partner Tony Stewart to be the face of the team, and Gene uses the team as a billboard/tax write-off just like he does in F1. Fact is Haas F1 team can't meet the requirements demanded of Andretti, same with Williams. Yet they can demand more of any new team. Protectionism at it's finest.
I feel like it's been awhile since a new team entered F1 legitimately instead of buying out a team and renaming/rebranding said team
2016 to be ecact
Haas.
It is pretty obvious what FOM is trying to do and it is extremely vile. All teams agreed to the last Concorde Agreement and now that the value of F1 teams have become overinflated they want to capitalize on that by denying Andretti. Using only subjective reasoning to be able to stall just long enough for them to draft a new Concorde Agreement so they can charge Andretti a higher fee. Mark my words if Andretti doesn't get approved before the new draft then as soon as it is finalized F1 will invite Andretti with open arms.
Why not? They built the foundation now some US team want a piece of the pie?
I dont blame them. Think of how much money these teams have put in over the decades in development. Where in Motorsport outside the USA have Cadillac been successful?
If Andretti get Ford engines they will have a better chance.
Heres a suggestion NFL , NBA, MLB allow other World teams into World series, SuperBowl .... silence . I thought so.
Who actually plays American football though?
I think they would get a kick out of watching a euro team get wiped every year. Cause we know that's exactly what would happen.
The persistent rumor is that teams are pushing for a 10 team limit in the new Concorde agreement, I'd personally bet against you on this one lol
@@alimantado373then increase the pie so they can increase the slices. Cadillac or GM has been widely successful in Motorsports outside the US for decades and with their LDMH they’ve shown to be a reputable competitor in imsa. And besides Andretti has to pay to be able to race in F1 anyway which does increase the pot so if they don’t win their money goes to someone else on the grid. It’s a very simple problem with a very simple solution
@@assassinproject5586 Except the cost cap brought in By Americans ( Liberty) doesnt allow that. The pie is 8 slices not 12
Did you listen to the recent interview with Adrian Newey, about stifling development?
We used to see amazing concepts, now it is sterilized. Might as well be all Dallara chassis not World manufacturers, F1 is not about that.
I think moving the goal post is a understatement started out with “ you don’t have the facilities “ once that was no longer an issue it became “ you don’t bring any value on your own “ they brought Cadillac. Than it became “ it’s a glorified sponsorship, they need to make your engine” than GM pledges to make the engine in 2028. Than it became “ it’s too much of a burden in Renault “ when Renault themselves said they’re fine with it even if it’s short term as they need the money. And FINALLY it became “ it’s too much of a burden in race promoters” when the Concorde agreement was designed to allow 12 teams, let alone 11 meaning FOM hasn’t even following the Concorde agreement that they’re using to reject Andretti to begin with
I want Andretti in F1. Another team would be great to see, and we get more driver talent.
F1 Should have 12 teams minimum, especially with how many junior drivers there are nowadays
@@Reiver-93 agreed. There is zero aspectation of a young talent to get into F1 when there are teams not willing to gamble on a rookie and trowing in the same old experienced drivers into the cars.
Like Hülkenberg comming back to the sport and now even signed with Audi. Magnussen comming back and driving like a maniac right now disgracing. Seargent having no skills to be in F1 and just drivinng here because hes American (altough that seems to be comming to an end soon). Stroll just driving because daddy owns the team and hurting the championship.
Of the 20 drivers in F1 now, atleast 3-4 could be kicked straight away and replaced by talented rookies from F2.
The last influx of fresh blood was the Max Verstappen era with Norris/Lecrec/Russel/Albon/Ocon/Gasley who all drove together in karting and lower formula championships. The only suprise we have had now was Piastri, who thankfully got stolen by McLaren instead withering away at Alpine.
As an American I greatly appreciated the accent used when reading the words of our politicians
What a classy sponsor, Lawrence! That MONGRIP stuff is awesome, but sadly it's too pricey for this punter. Still, a man can dream!
The other issue that Liberty Media has is their other company is currently being scrutinized by lawmakers in the US for monopolistic behaviour with Ticketmaster. They are already kinda on the wrong side of things and if lawmakers want, they can use this case as ammunition in that case cause honestly there is no logical reason to decline them other than the seemingly overnight popularity of the sport. They keep moving the goal post and Andretti keeps meeting their requirements. Also, with the FIA signing off, it gives Liberty Media less of a leg to stand on when they are being questioned. I know some people might feel why US politicians involving themselves in F1 a predominantly European sport but unfortunately, Liberty Media is a US company they are subject to their rules and laws.
Man i kinda call it, as soon andretti got main stream attention and bipartisan support it would be impossible for Lm to ignore without consequences. Now i wonder how lm will respond to this
i just hope they get in without LM kicking a team out...i hope it goes naturally 11 teams and no kicking off haas behind the scenes just to make it justified
@@mrbungle3310 as much i wouldn't mind Haas not being in f1 anymore, i also don't want to see them leave you know? Like I'm still holding out hope for a Haas top 3 constructors season
@@bilfbunter2248 It should be Racing Bulls, the only explicit B-team on the grid.
@@mattiasgarbi9470 Sure and Williams not under Toto thumb? Rumoured to kick Logan for Kimi even during this season because Toto is scared he loses another Max Verstappen caliber driver. And even Haas has to much Italian influence. There ar 3 teams that arnt opperating completely solo and could be considered a B-team. Thats VCARB to RBR, Willimas to Mercedes and on some level Haas to Ferrari.
Likely doubling down. Greedy billionaires don't appreciate being told off or challenged.
Thank God you got an actual f1 related sponsor. 1. I actually watched the ad and didn’t skip, 2. I might even get one of those bracelets, the senna one caught my eye
Aren’t the teams and Liberty beholden to the Concorde agreement? If that agreement allows for an extra team, and Andretti meets all requirements, they should be allowed in. Simple as that. File a suit at CAS.
Which is why the teams are trying to change it.
So by the Concorde agreement in place currently, 12 teams can compete but the teams MUST agree to share/split the pot. The teams aren't doing so, which means Andretti could technically show up and race...but even if they win, they wouldn't get the prize money.
The current Concorde Agreement basically excludes teams from having to share the prize money unless they themselves vote unanimously to share the prize money with a new entry....unsurprisingly they voted against Andretti from getting a share of the prize pool...
Thats why pretty much EVERYONE is calling them for this farce
Yep! They made up bs reasons to stall as long as possible, entirely to do a new agreement that would exclude andretti.
GM pulled out, Andretti didn’t have an engine supplier…not till 2028… THAT was 1 of the requirements…
@@MustachioFurioso9134no team can show upland race… no one gets into the paddock without all control and permissions…
It’s insane that WEC can add new teams like throwing your spare change in the coin jar. I watch WEC for the hypercar category not really any other classes. But they’re just like oh yea BMW you want in? Comme on in, Lamborghini you too? Why of course! Alpine you want to join as well? Well don’t be as embarrassing as you are in F1, but come on into the grid.
While F1 is sitting over here, complaining about how there isn’t a close enough fight for the title blah blah, yet more teams and more drivers, oh absolutely not, we will not do anything to benefit the sport, the fans and drivers that simply can’t get a seat yet are arguably more talented than current drivers on the grid.
Have you seen which tracks Wec uses….with garages…
F1 have tight pitlane… it won’t fit.
This is slightly off subject but who else has realised since the emergence of andretti as a prospect on the grid haas have pulled up their socks and actually started performing well like they feel as if their position in F1 has been threatened
@LawVS. Thank you for NOT spewing innuendoes and rumors!
FOM, just take the "L" on this one. You've managed to unite one of the most dysfunctional legislative bodies in the world against you in a year when everyone is looking to get attention. Just take Andretti's money and let him in...
as an american f1 red bull fan since the aston martin renault days i am absolutely APPALLED that andretti is being denied at all ESPECIALLY because they don’t think they will be competitive based on how alpine, kick sauber, and williams currently are doing in 2024 is an absolute joke.
andretti would be worse, it's true
You could actually argue Andretti has a leg up on other teams that want to join because they have experience with ground effect cars since that's the majority of IndyCar's aero
Congrats on getting a sponsor, I'm glad you took on one related to F1.
I am glad you are keeping up with this story. As an American I expected FOM to let Andretti/Caddilac in. I see FOM as the Comercial rights h8lder but FIA owns the league. The way I see it is when FIA approved entry the only rights FOM has is to create the contract for the commercial rights with Andretti /Caddilac to show them on TV. LET THEM IN. They will get in one way or another. They will not give up. Law keep up the good work..
There are alot of pieces to this. Gainbridge owner is part owner of Andretti and a tier sponsor of alot of F1 cars and races. Liberty media is a US company and if the government goes digging and finds them guilty of the Sherman act, the whole f1 circus will not be allowed to operate in it's borders. Think the UK has a similar law but not sure. So greed on behalf of Liberty and the team owners could really stop them cold. Remember, our government is pretty dumb but they managed to convict and jail gangsters on tax evasion and not murder, when murder was the obvious crime. Just sayin, Liberty could be screwed or we're gonna see Andretti on the grid very soon.
If you read the third question of the original request for information it looks more like a shot at Mercedes, Ferrari, Renault & Audi as car makers, gaining an unfair advantage by their position in F1 to promote their products. Congress is pushing all the levers
This is literally a big bucks version of "muuumm he won't let me play with her cars!!"
"Greg, you better let my boys play with your kids or there will be big trouble, mister!"
I already wrote my Congessman on their behalf. I also wrote Raytheon and Boeing to tell them there is Oil in the engines. Can’t wait to see what happens.
Can finally get our hands on that sweet sweet top secret, Pirelli tire compound!
My Boy got sponsored! Congrats!
We love this proffesional yapper!
Also, F1 please let Andretti in pretty please. - Courtesy of U.S. Congress
Count Me In as a new American fan to your channel! And thank you for being the only European person to acknowledge how good Cadillac has been in other leagues of racing. For some reason Europeans don't want to acknowledge that LOL. Also love the humor of your videos! Keep up the good work!
You can tell that GM's Cadillac arm is making waves.
Will be interesting when the Cadillac representative is questioned under oath: "Did any existing Formula One Team(s) approach you regarding a partnership after Andretti/Caddy was announced"
Oooooo spicey I would LOVEEEE to hear that lol....
Best TH-cam sponsorship plug EVER!!
Thank you, partnering with Law is such a pleasure 😄
Hope to see you wearing a MONGRIP soon!
someone's never watched Map Men ;)
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COOL RUNNINGS!
Worst thing is that the FIA actually is all up for Andretti to get into F1. It's LM and the Teams not wanting to share the cake
With Congress getting involved to defend American interests in F1, Sky Sports had better get rid of Danica Patrick quick, or we'll be stuck with her forever.
😂😂
Better than that other female "driver" who's hair wouldn't fit in a crash helmet that Sky uses, and never amounted to anything worth talking about. We all know why she is there and which boxes are being checked off!!
As an American Fan I'd love to See Andretti in F1. I don't necessarily think we need more American teams but Haas has shown they don't have the money necessary to move up the order, and honestly I think they are completely content battling for P8 and P9 in the constructors every year. A team like Andretti that want to win and has the money to chase those goals would draw a lot more fans.
A sponsor!? This might be the first time I haven’t skipped forward a sponsor segment on TH-cam 😮 I’m calling it now, you will have 100K subs by the end of the year
They need to hire LawVS
I’ve got 5 bucks on Newey going to Andretti. You heard it here first
I would love to see that, it would be the biggest middle finger to F1's argument that they wouldn't be competitive. "You want us to be competitive? Well we now have in our employ they man who helped to design championship winning cars."
biggest good surprise ever if that happens
that would be hilariously awesome. id take that wager
Iirc Newey and Mario Andretti have worked together before and were on good terms.
I'm here for it! I'd honestly love it!
Great sponsoring mate keep it going!! Hope to buy one in the future!!
First thing jim jordan has ever done thats actually decent
Agreed
Hope it works. I watched Andretti in 93 and saw the bs he went through . At least he got a podium where his dad won the championship
What bs?? He refused to commit to his job and flew in on race weekends from the US! How was he a victim here??
Reporter: “Why are you changing the concord agreement?”
F1: “Money”
Reporter: “Why can’t Andretti compete if the FIA approved them?”
F1: “Money”
This should have set off every possible alarm bell at the legal departments of every team + FOM + LM.
Bin Sulayem, however, played his cards right.
All I know is, if it takes and act of Congress for Andretti to get in, it'll never happen.
As a Californian, Miami GP is one of the few I don't have to lose sleep over. i'm not surprised at the ratings. Just California is around 15% of the nations population.
YESSS finally have a sponsor to support your good work, not the best for us non-purchasers but good to finally reap the rewardss of your good work!
Refusing a team entry becaue they "wouldnt be competitive" considering the current state of the league with less than 3/4 of the league being competitve is a slap in the face.
I know that technically "estate" can refer to a living person's wealth as well, but "the estates of Senna and Michael Schumacher" feels especially sad.
As an American and s racing fan i have no clue as to what business the US Congress has getting involved with who does or doesn't get an team in F 1. If Congress should put their efforts into corporate price gouging of the citizens. Let the FIA, F-1, and Andretti Autosport work this out. This is not an international conflict. Congress needs to govern and get out of sports. Each sport has its own governing body it's their job to work things out not my elected officials.
Please Andretti make it happen ! I would love to see a black and gold Cadillac in f1 . I would burn all my Red Bull racing gear immediately 😊.
Or a Red White and Blue one. Minus the stars
Before I watch the video. I do have to say this I hoped Logan Sargeant helps Andretti to be a F1 team in the grid so he can have a drive for them screw Williams they are planning to sacked him in favor of Antonelli why don't they give Antonelli one more year in F2 honestly Williams and James Vowles shame on you.
Ok now I will watch it.
Its because Toto is scared to lose another Max Verstappen caliber driver. With Max, Mercedes wanted him, offered him a contract and to drive F2 because there was no seat at Mercedes that year. And Helmut was like 'hold my bradwurst' and put him in the Torro Rosso skipping F2.
Toto is to scared someone will snatch Kimi from under him again by offering him a seat for next year. For example Haas is already down 1 driver and Kevin is driving like a maniac atm disgracing F1 IMO. And Gunther said to never run a season with 2 rookies. But Gunther is gone and i realy think Ferrari gona park Bearman at Haas and would not be surprised Haas pulling the same move as Helmut did and snag Kimi away and put him in the car for next year.
I think Ferrari will be delighted to get Kimi in the Ferrari academy and eventualy replace Leclerc and Hamilton with Bearman and Antionelli.
So conclusion, I understand why Toto/Vowles are making these plans/deals behind the scenes to prevent a scenario like this.
As an American who has been watching F1 since the V8 era cars, I would hate to have to stop watching. However, if F1 can't stop being ridiculous then I will stop watching. I hope the rest of my country stops watching too until they stop with their nonsense and just let Andretti in. It would do nothing but benefit the sport, but corporate greed is getting in the way. If I were any good with social media and could gather a solid platform ad follower base, I would use it to convince all of my fellow American viewers to boycott the sport until they let Andretti in and I would make a petition for everybody to sign.
They don’t want Andretti because they know he will be competitive right from the start. He will also open the door for Rahal, Penske, or Ganassi to come in and be number 12. F1 needs the US market and F1 needs more seats for drivers. Greed is the only thing in the way.
I really hope they get on to the grid.
I would love to know what the big issue was with them in the first place. Definitely seems like there is a grudge against Andretti.
I've never even heard any ideas as to what it could be and it leaves me very confused as they seem to tick pretty much every box that liberty media are looking for.
I think the problem goes back to when Mario was racing in F1. They did not like Mario living in the USA and competing in F1. Michael got a raw deal in F1.
@@karlmoltzan6196 could very well be. It just seems very hipocrytical of them
It's been going on since
Michael drove in 93
"we race as one" kinda got a new meaning from this
The fact that they don’t want an Andretti in the sport is nuts
If Williams kick out Sargent Andretti should sign him. It will give Sargent something to do like test driving or media, and it will legitimatise Andretti as an American Team with a American f1 driver. He may not be the best driver but he is still an f1 driver
I'm betting big $Money$ to see that Happen... And I've been hoping for that while?!
I know ppl hate on drive to survive but it’s the sole reason my wife and I got into f1 and haven’t missed a race in two seasons! It was a good entrance for non race fans
Exactly! Every gateway into F1 is A-OK with me.
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I have a feeling that is going to go all the way up to the DOJ and that it might result in a F1 vs US Government antitrust lawsuit. Personally I would love to see Andretti get all the big names in indycar under one roof for its F1 team.
Easy to fix, 12 cars start the race , 13 show up. After Qualifying , the fastest 12 start the race , 1 goes home.
Those two spots were for VW and Audi 😕
Audi is not adding a new team. Just toking over Sauber.
@@karlmoltzan6196 yes but we believed that they were going to join as a new team not buy a team, which is boring 😔
The next thing is FOM will create the new concord agreement with max 10 teams--there ya go, no one can complain? Liberty is an American company, so if they engage in anti-competitive behavior, then they will get smacked. I am with them on this. FOM and the existing 10 teams are out of line.
The European F1 teams should remember that this year... is election season. Half of the seats of these lawmakers' seats are on the line. And these guys will do anything to make sure that their names will be remembered by their constituents come election day.
The BSCUK Thinktank identified as far back as 2010. Theultimate structure of F1 would be three regional leagues based on the same rules. The final winnners and teams would be global champions,bit like the World Cup. This was deamed too difficult to control and when the pademic arrived followed by GEO politics. That was not a sport organisation the fans wanted; leading to collapse of the sport.
FIA can really stir the pot now, they just need to find a 12th team worthy of approval
I mean two teams that applied at the same time and where rejected are Carlin and Hitech, who currently run F2 and F3 teams. Imagine if one of them got approved and fom let them in no problems.
How can you be the "pinnacle of motorsport" when you refuse an entire continent of car manufacturers and teams? Every hoop Liberty Media put in front of Andretti, they have jumped through. Keep moving the goal posts back further and further. Someone doesn't know about American grit and determination.
Because that continet means nothing in global motorsport... and no, Indycar does not count...
@@cosminlesutan3574 then get your series off the continent. Take all the tracks, all the eurotrash cars, and stay in Europe. At least in indycar, we have different champions every year. Not 3 different champions in the last 14 years. And if North America means nothing, why are there 4 tracks with a 5th one coming?
Haas is American. Stop your nonsense
@@APEXoftheAVATARwe want to stay out of US…. We would like Sepanf and Hockenheim back on the calendar
@@Redlingstein HAAS is a Ferrari badged to be an American. The only thing American is the owner.
It's really interesting. I can't imagine how F1 would fall apart.
Andretti's F1 application accepted: It's a' Me, Mario!
There is a meteorological term that is appropriate for this situation, and the definition of said term applies to this very well, and it is called Rapid Intensification.
Monogrip are working with an ever decreasing amount of tires since they now get shredded and burned. To be honest I’m surprised there are any tires left available for them to make the bracelets unless they have gotten their hands on one tire and putting a fleck of it in each bracelet.
They are mostly from the 90s but they've got some historical significance from the Goodyear era.
The fact the teams have ANYTHING to say is soooo stupid. Like they have such a bias, of course as a team you want as little other cars on the grid, if there are only 8 cars on the grid you are ever only 4 positions away from points. SO WHY DO THEY HAVE ANYTHING YO SAY
Up the prize money. Really
Everyone thought it would be the EU going after them over this, not the US Congress. F1 needs to be careful, remember what happened to FIFA...
I do have to wonder if the teams would be quaking in their boots if the UK and EU law systems get involved with this fiasco.
I'm surprised that I am actually agreeing with Gym Jordan on something for once.
It's pretty ironic that they US government is complaining about it being a closed system, they should maybe look at thei whole sports system where there are no promotions and relegations and where teams will move several thousands of miles away if a town/city/state offers a new stadium and other financial benefits.
And I do personally feel Andretti have screwed up in a major way from the off, its ok going around and showing how you are working towards a car being ready for 2026 BUT show exactly how you finically are going to grow the sport. The problem with Andretti is alot of the sponsors that you think of around them are either already in F1 or they are companies with an America Focus and whom are unlikely to be able to justify spending F1 levels to have a sponsorship that over 90% of the people who see it are in markets you don't operate in. They should have come to the table with written letters of intent from Sponsors who committed to Sponsoring Andretti and where any sponsor they lined up who already sponsors another team would agree not to pull their sponsor from this team for x number of years. That way they would show how they aren't pulling any income from other teams and instead are bringing new companies into the fold
"But Masako! America already has an F1 Team in HAAS! They don't need another team." ~Stephano Dominicalli (Probably)
Unfortunately for this American F1 fan (hailing back from the old V10 days), Haas lost a lot of credibility for me when they sold out to the Russians.
i'm not an American, but f1 needs American driver and American team. Like real American team and driver. Not Haas and Sargeant we have.
Must be growing those leg muscles with how often you go up and down that ladder
seal team 6 are ready to go
As an American, it brings up my 1776 spirit hearing a strong British crown accent reading our political jargon...
Law I've watched long enough now that I have to ask: Where do you get your polos form? Theyre quite nice.
He gets then from his wife? She shows good taste!
Wouldn't it be possible to amend the Concorde agreement (and insert into the next one) to expand the prize pool (and payouts to all teams) if a team meets the requirements and joins the series up to 11, 12 or 13 teams.
1:57 Where Lawrence got bridge”stoned”😂
Deadass this is the first thing that Congress has done that I completely agree with in YEARS.
It is fair for Porsche and Audi to buy an existing team to get into the sport but for Andretti is not... wait am I missing something?
The arguments against against Andretti are rubbish. Ten teams are being funded for twelve, Liberty Media has increased F1 income from DTS and the American Market that could easily increase the prize pool for all the teams. I told everyone a long time ago that what Liberty Media was doing was unlawful and anti-competition and yes that they were shifting the goal posts. Then you have Audi jumping the queue.
First off, my man finally got himself a big-time sponsor! As for the Andretti situation, I never thought I'd see the day where congress would actually work together on something, never thought it would take F1 of all things to accomplish that! Its just a shame it's even come to this, but they (Formula 1) alone got themselves in this mess.
If this is the way Andretti gets in, im pretty sure nobody is gonna like them.
The fans will like it....at the end of the day that's all that matters.
@@cheris5265 DTS lovers are not fans...
I'm from Indiana and would love andretti in F1. More cars is more fun
Great video keep it up you're doing amazing things 😁👍
F1 needs to be careful. I see a lot of American fans moving over to IndyCar already. They have 3 GP in the United States now but no “real” US team. Andretti name is a big pull in the US. I think they underestimate how much. Serves them right if their greed results in them losing 50 percent of US DTS fans to IndyCar and NASCAR in the near future.
😂😂😂😂 Indycar has been doing so bad these last years 😂😂😂😂
We don’t care if you don’t watch F1 anymore. Sepang and Hockenheim will be great sold out venues to return to….
Oh lord rpm is gonna have a field day with this
While I am a supporter of Andretti coming in to F1, the American Congress getting involved with F1 using anti-trust laws is not going to work. Currently, there is 1 team from America in F1 and there are 3 GPs held in America each year, more than any other country in the world. So Congress getting involved, threatening legal action, will go nowhere.
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