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Hi guys! I wanted to reach out with a question, but first I’ll give a quick intro to my current running journey. I signed up for my first half marathon in mid May, I’ve built up to 12 mile runs and I’ve been running intervals to increase my speed. I currently am running in Gel nimbus lite 2s and I love them, they have kept me from getting shin splints or other injures. I also weigh 205 Lbs now, down from 220 plus. So I really need/favor the cushion. But now as I’m increasing speed and I have a goal to finish at/ under 2:00 hours, I wanted to find something with the best of both worlds, cushion and speed. I definitely heel strike and felt lost in a pair of brooks that didn’t have much heel. I was thinking about the New Balance fuel cell super comp trainers ? I was wondering if you had any suggestions ! Thanks a ton !
As Mike Ehrmantraut of BCS might say, "Here's what's going to happen. You're going to wake up one day, maybe in a month, maybe a year, and you're going to find you're reaching for the Endorphin Pro 3 every day. It'll start with races. But then you'll lean on them in workouts, or when you're babying an injury, or really long runs. And finally, easy days. And you're going to be OK." God, I miss that guy.
This episode is my favorite, where y’all share personal faves and why it helps to narrow down since there are so many options out there it’s clear and to the point. Thanks!!
Easy Runs: Brooks Adrenaline GTS 22. Daily Trainers: Novablast 3 and NB 880v12 Tempo Runs: Asics Noosa Tri 13's Race Days: Nike VaporFly Next 2% & Nike OG Alphaflys.
Current daily trainer/LR shoes are the new 1080, Cloudmonster and NovaBlast3 coming soon. Tempo and speedwork, the Hyperion Tempo, Speed2, Takumi Sen7 for the track. For race day I save my Takumi Sen 8 (5K, 10K) and now have the Edge+ which I’ll test out at CIM HM (relay) and consider for Boston, but am also probably going to pick up the Endo Pro 3 to consider for that as well.
I use a combination of the Speed 2 and Adios 6 for daily / tempo sessions and Takumi Sen 8 for 5 & 10k races. I have a number of super shoes but going with the Puma Fast-R for Dublin marathon in a few weeks - it's feels like the best of the Vaporfly & Alphafly in one shoe to me 👍
The next SC Elite! The carbon plated racers for the 3 hour marathoners (and those with Yeti feet). I didn’t want to rack up so much long run miles in RC Elite 2, so I’m glad to know that the Trainer works well in that use case. I was interested in Jarrett’s rotation for all us Yeti feet people.
My current lineup Race: Vaporfly 2 Tempo: Endorphin Speed 2 Daily: Clifton 8 Recovery: More V4 I’m looking to get the Novablast 3 next as my hoka’s are getting long in the tooth only 160 miles in. The Speed 2 has been amazing except it’s just a bit unstable for easy paces, so I might find something else for my long runs. I’m more than happy with my race and recovery options, and I’m only intrigued by other race shoes simply just to see how they feel.
Nova blast 3's are literally incredible. Maybe it's just perfect for my foot but I have a ton of pairs, whenever I go back to them i literally feel back at home lol
I recently picked the Streakfly and am loving them! Like Thomas says, such a fun shoe to run in. I've been using them for tempo and marathon-paced runs so far, and would happily race a half in them. And I'm 6'3 and 183lbs, so not exactly a mtatchstick man in runner terms.
Would have really liked to know wide Jarrett's picks and his thoughts on the Novablast 3. They don't make NB3 in a wide and would have liked to hear his thoughts beyond the hype for the wide foot fam.
I did get a pair that I need to put more miles in (I’ve been so dang busy with the new house!), but I’ve done a few runs. I love the midsole and I wish it came in wide. A little tight in the midfoot as expected, but I was able to get 6 miles in them. Probably wouldn’t go further because the standard width tightness.
I did try on the Streakfly (in gorgeous bright orange!) and agree that if I didn’t have 2 pairs of the Takumi Sen8 I’d have bought it on the spot. Different but both great and similar use case.
One of my favorite daily trainers of all time was the Boston 8. Coming from that school of running, my current rotation now is Takumi Sen 8 as my daily trainer 😬, Adios Pro 2 as my tempo/ long run 😅, and race day is Adios Pro 3 😎. I’m waiting on my Prime X Strung and not sure how I’m going to throw that in the blender 🤷🏽♂️😂.
How are the TS and Pro2 holding up? I've wondered about using top tier shoes for everything... assuming you can afford it (or find great deals) I can only imagine durability is the only obstacle.
@@michaeltanel3815 Honestly I found great deals ( and you still can too) and they have been holding up very well so far. The lightstrike pro midsole still have a lot of life left with over 300+ miles
@@wilfredo-teyrosalesfotos Great to know! Thank you. I have the Adios 6, Boston 11, TS8 and Pro3 (all good sales) and love them. I'm 6' and' 205lb myself, so need the extra bounce. Thanks for the reply! Cheers.
I recently bought the novablast 3, great shoe soft, light and springy. I'm really struggling with the shape of the outsole, too narrow in the heel and midfoot and the extension behind the heel is not comfortable when walking or running at low paces.
Hi! I’m doing my first marathon in about 5 weeks and just learned the hard way that using a rotation of only 2 Kinvara 13s isn’t the best idea for the body. What would you do here in terms of fixing my shoe rotation? I ordered a pair of Endorphin Shift 3s to use on my longer runs, but i don’t know about the rest of it at this point. Love your channel! Learning lots :)
Thanks guys, this is great!! Which one would you suggest using for loooooong runs with speed workouts? Like a 16 miler when every other mile is at marathon pace?
Hello! What would you recommend to a person (me) who started to run 6 miles the ago and that is aiming to be good on 10k? I just have a pair of Saucony Ride 17 ( love them), but I feel I need to buy another pair for the Sunday “long” runs, and keep the Ride 17 for the speed workouts
The Gel Nimbus 24 has been my favorite Daily Trainer this year but I haven’t tried the Novablast 3. With all of you picking the Novablast 3, I guess I’m missing out.
Hello. I would like your advice. I started running more actively and experimenting with sneakers. I am preparing for a half marathon. I have a Vomero 17, a Nimbus 25 and today I bought and tested the Adizero SL2. Vomero 17 - soft, stable, I like them for easy runs. I was excited about the Nimbus 25 at first, but now they seem cumbersome and very slow. SL2 - excellent: today both the pace improved, and the speed, and the heart rate did not increase. My question is, should I replace the Nimbus 25 with something else for slow recovery runs? Are they not needed at all with Vomero 17? And what sneakers would you recommend for my collection to close all questions? I will be very grateful.
The SE Trainer has totally given me the confidence to run again after my full hip replacement 3 years ago! I will however not be going Full Mileage anymore, but it’s sure nice to run some 5k runs every other day to just be out there again 🏃♂️
Like for Robbe, Meaghan, Brandon and Thomas. For me: Long distance = NB 1080 v12 Daily Trainer = Novablast3 Race day = Kinvara13 A nice Friday for everyone. ☀️🏃♂️☀️
What about a rotation for runners who dont plan on racing or training specifically for a target? Just running for over all health but still wants a structured plan like a basic -Short talking pace run -Long run -Recovery run How would you build a rotation like that ?
Short talking pace run: Triumph 20 (it's on sale) or Adidas Adizero SL (on sale too), Hoka Clifton 9, NB V12/13 Long Run: Asics Superblast, Saucony Kinvara Pro or Boston 12. Recovery Run: Asics Gel-Nimbus 25 or NB SC trainer Elite V2, or NB More V4. Some of my suggestions
Stuck between choosing the Glideride 3, Nimbus 24 or the Shift 3 as a long run day/daily trainer cross. I'm moving up from the half marathon distance to the full marathon this new year. Any insights?
Hey guys! I’m racing a half Ironman later this year with a HM target of 1:45 (ideally 1:40). I want a shoe that will be faster than a daily and super forgiving on my feet. I’m leaning towards the SC Trainer because I love the fuel cell in my rebel v3. Any thoughts or recommendations? Thanks!!
My current rotation is the novablast 3, peg turbo next nature, and vaporfly 2. Easy/Daily: I put 500 miles in my first pair of novablast 2s, and 300 more in my second pair. The additional stack and new foam is a massive upgrade, It feel massively more comfortable and bouncy while being way lighter. I have 75 miles in them now and they just keep feeling better. Tempo (kinda): I've been using the peg turbo since I was able to get a pair for like $90, and I kinda like it? I typically just rotate it on my easy days with the noablast, and it's ok. It takes a few miles to warm up the foam and after that it's pretty bouncy. I've also used it for a 12 mile long run after a race which really surprised me with how good I ended up feeling. I can pick up the pace decently well, but the novablast is overall better. Threshold/Race day: The vaportfly is just so good. I have about 150 miles in my pair and they just feel so good. Anything from 400 reps to mile or 2k repeats feels amazing. I use them maybe once or twice a week but thanks to the zoomx foam after every workout I just feel great. Race day (spikes): Dragonflys. They're the best spike I've ever used. my prs from 400 all the way to 8k all happened in one pair of dragonflys.
One aspect you didn't address is stability. I have moderate pronation (worse in left foot that right). I can and do run my races, even marathons, in neutral shoes, but I can't do all my training in neutrals, so I alternate. I have max-cushioned stability shoes for easy runs, more minimalist stability shoes which I use for some speedwork and some long runs, and nylon-plated neutral shoes for speedwork and some races. I save my carbon-plated shoes for marathons and other races where I'm going for pb.
Recently got the Novablast 3, not a massive fan in all honesty. Feels a bit harsh and slow. Current rotation is: Daily trainer - Novablast 3 (until recently was Saucony Ride 15) Speed / Tempo - Saucony Speed 2 Race - Alpha Fly Next Percent 2
Interesting...I just ran in the endorphin speed 3 and novablast 3. Ended up returning the speed 3 bc they felt stiff, were a little snug and had less bounce than the novablast 3. I weigh 185lbs and midfoot strike.
@@Strizzle81 Yeah i know everyone has different bodies and preferences but I just personally found them a bit harsh considering the foam feels soft. The Ride and the Speed (2) feel a lot harder foam wise but seem to absorb the contact/shock better in my opinion. I’ll see how they go after some more miles.
what's the best non-plate race day shoe you'd recommend? I'm a little hesitant to spend the money on a plated shoe for racing since I've never used one before...
Howt different is the novablast 2 and 3. All this talk about novablast makes me wanna try. Is it worth it to spend the extra to get the 3 or save some $ and get the 2 now and then the 3 later when gets marked down? I have never tried the novablast. Thanks!
The Novablast 3 is noticeably lighter than the 2. The 3 is as cushioned but bouncier. I'm much happier with the few miles I've run in the 3 over the 200mi I ran in the 2.
The 3 is definitely our favorite to date, but you really can't go wrong with the 2 either and try the 3 if you like that feel but want something lighter
It's hard to pick something else other than the Novablast 3 for best daily trainer. Even if I run my PR effort today, my feet will feel fresh the next day almost like nothing happened it's just ridiculous. Comfort, lightness, energy return, stability, looks, almost everything you could possibly ask for.
I went to go look at them in store and the store person was trashing them so I'm kind of second guessing myself. Is the Novablast 3 as good as they say?
@@SuperCuttyBlackSow It’s a good shoe man. I wouldn’t bash it. I run 5ks. Working up to 10k. It’s an easy daily trainer. It also works great for tempo paces. A fun shoe. Seems like it gets a lot of mixed reviews.
Currently: NB 880 v12 & Hoka Rincon 3 for daily/easy (both on the way out and will be replaced by either the Novablast 3 or Hoka Mach 5), Streakfly & Endorphin Speed 2 for tempo & marathon pace workouts, Deviate Nitro Elite for race day. For the trails it’s Speedgoat 5, Peregrine 12, Pegasus Trail 4, and Hoka Zinal, depending on the run & conditions.
Hey guys. I’m off on holiday soon and only have space for one shoe. What would you recommend I take? My choices are: tempo next%, Speed 2, Rebel V2, Pegasus 37/38/39, Vaporfly, Alphafly, Deviate Nitro, Rocket X & original Novablast. I’ll be doing easy runs and some sessions, but probably not a long run. Appreciate any help!
I currently have ua velocity which i use a daily/tempo shoe. Interested to buy novablast or endorphin speed. Its better if i make novablast my daily and ua velocity as tempo or velocity as daily and endorphin speed as tempo?
Hi guys, the Novablast 2 was a bit underwhelming for me. I'm a forefoot runner. I can't feel the cushioning of the FFblast foam. I'm just wondering if it will happen with the V3.
Great video, do you have a race day recommendation for slower pace (13mil/min)first time marathon runner? I do my long run in glycerin 20, but looking to see if there is any comfortable race day carbon shoes at this pace. Thanks in advance!
would like to know what everyone's shoe they would grab is if they could only have ONE for everything. I used the rebel v2 as my one shoe, but I only go up to a half marathon as my long race, I prefer 10k as the best distance. I'm excited to try rebel v3
I recently tried them on while traveling in an Asics store and 1/2 size down fit me very well. I asked my favorite independent running store to order them for me in that size. However, it’s a wise idea to try both sizes because it may depend on where your particular foot (especially larger foot if they aren’t the same) falls within your size, hence the varying opinions. Martha
My rotation: New Balance 880s / Rebel V2s / Takumi Sen 8s. It's funny to hear you call the Takumi Sens a tempo shoe, and use "race day" as meaning marathon shoe. Do most people run marathons? I get that if you already have marathon super shoes you can wear them in 10ks and 5ks. But for those of us who don't run marathons a pair of Takumi Sens (on sale for $110!) make a lot more sense.
Takumi Sen 8 is my 5K/10K race shoe and I could possibly take them up to HM distance. I do not waste them on training speedwork. I have other shoes (like the Hyperion Tempo or even TS7 on the track) for that.
I was also thinking exactly this, most of my races are 5/10k and chose the TS8 over supershoes for that distance. I've tried super shoes for 5/10k and of course they are really good, but can't quite find the times I can get in the TS8 - it's underrated! So light, nimble and fast, not sure how they can improve it but hopefully a 9 will come.
I’m running the Chicago marathon this weekend, and I have been training and ran a couple of half marathons in speed 2s so I was planning on doing the marathon in that shoe. But, the local store here just got the pro 3s… Do you think it’s a bad idea to purchase pro 3s now and use that to run the marathon without having done any training in them?
I have 144 miles on my NB RC elite 2s and tempted to run 1 more marathon in it . Still feels great. How many miles do you guys put on your racers before retiring them? Do you use them for tempos after a certain mileage?
stuff you're going to look for in Canada is fit, durability (though most reviewers can't estimate with 100 miles), cushioning AND TRACTION IN WINTER... Endorphin Speed 2 and Novablast 3 (though TR version might be) are definite nope for winter season.
Hey, I’m looking to go for a full Ironman in December this year. I’m not the fastest runner, but probably intending to do it at about 7min/km ish pace. I have the alpha fly 2, but kinda hurts my wide feet a lot. Do you guys have any shoe recommendations for wide feet around 2E or 4E?
@@Believeintherun Read through the website, didn't know that there was one! Got the SC Trainer, and 24km logged, it's definitely one of the most fun experience I've had thus far on a shoe!
I have no doubt the plated shoes provide a boost....I just found I can't seem to run more than 6 miles or so in carbon plated shoes before the bottom of my feet start screaming. I just picked up the Altra Vanish Tempo as a potential marathon shoe.....seems snappy but w/o the plate.
Agreed, I went for a 12 mile run in my saucony endorphin pros and the soles of my feet were super sore afterwards. Thankfully not all carbon plated shoes are built the same
Ill have to go back and look at the NB3 reviews but I dont remember anyone saying it was that much different than the NB2 if so its a hard pass for me, shoe just doesn't work for me same with the Alphafly...(hmm I may be deleted after those two comments - dont hate me LOL) Takumi Sen is something I have wanted to try out for a bit so Ill probably give that a go. Same with the Metaspeed Edge my local store doesn't carry either so Ill just have to bite the bullet and pick up a pair. For my own lineup lets see probably all NB Rebel v2, SC Trainer, SC Racer (although I only have one 5 mile run in it so far - loved the RC Elite 2 and still have a lot of life in them) if I was gonna add one other shoe in I would probably swap the Rebel v2 out (its got over 300 miles in it) for the Hoka Mach5 and go Daily/Long - SC Trainer, Speed (I like to do it on the track) Hoka Mach 5, Race SC elite.
and the bad news - u can spend all the money of the world for raceday shoes then came someone who can run, and gonna be 2 min/km faster in a 1 usd chinese flipflop
I find that building a shoe rotation is easy. You just buy all the shoes that shoe-tubers rave about. The trouble seems to be wearing them out so you can justify buying new shoes. Right now I'm struggling to wear out the Novablast and Endorphin Speed so I can buy the 3's; but when you have like 7 pairs of shoes it's hard for an average runner to rack up the miles in them. I dont really do races; so that category doesnt matter as much for me, but of course you still want that shoe that makes you feel fast for those runs when you try for a new pb.
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Hi guys! I wanted to reach out with a question, but first I’ll give a quick intro to my current running journey. I signed up for my first half marathon in mid May, I’ve built up to 12 mile runs and I’ve been running intervals to increase my speed. I currently am running in Gel nimbus lite 2s and I love them, they have kept me from getting shin splints or other injures. I also weigh 205 Lbs now, down from 220 plus. So I really need/favor the cushion. But now as I’m increasing speed and I have a goal to finish at/ under 2:00 hours, I wanted to find something with the best of both worlds, cushion and speed. I definitely heel strike and felt lost in a pair of brooks that didn’t have much heel. I was thinking about the New Balance fuel cell super comp trainers ? I was wondering if you had any suggestions ! Thanks a ton !
I don't know for you guys but for me , recovery / max cush category is more important than race day 😀
Well you won’t be getting hurt as much generally so that’s good
A clean sweep for the Novablast! That’s a pretty clear endorsement 👏🏻 That midsole looks like chiseled fire 🔥
Respect to Thomas for repping Motörhead 🫡🫡
As Mike Ehrmantraut of BCS might say, "Here's what's going to happen. You're going to wake up one day, maybe in a month, maybe a year, and you're going to find you're reaching for the Endorphin Pro 3 every day. It'll start with races. But then you'll lean on them in workouts, or when you're babying an injury, or really long runs. And finally, easy days. And you're going to be OK." God, I miss that guy.
I've done all that in the Endorphin Pro 3 except race day😅. Hoping it's got enough miles in it for the Marine Corps Marathon end of Oct
NB SC trainer is my fav shoe. I use it for everything and I dont plan on changing until they come out with new colors and I buy the same one...
That's hilarious!, The gel nimbus has been my favorite shoe this year. Glad to hear I'm not alone.
This episode is my favorite, where y’all share personal faves and why it helps to narrow down since there are so many options out there it’s clear and to the point. Thanks!!
Easy Runs: Brooks Adrenaline GTS 22.
Daily Trainers: Novablast 3 and NB 880v12
Tempo Runs: Asics Noosa Tri 13's
Race Days: Nike VaporFly Next 2% & Nike OG Alphaflys.
Current daily trainer/LR shoes are the new 1080, Cloudmonster and NovaBlast3 coming soon. Tempo and speedwork, the Hyperion Tempo, Speed2, Takumi Sen7 for the track. For race day I save my Takumi Sen 8 (5K, 10K) and now have the Edge+ which I’ll test out at CIM HM (relay) and consider for Boston, but am also probably going to pick up the Endo Pro 3 to consider for that as well.
I have the following : LR/EZ pace - Novablast
Tempo - X Strung or Speed 3
Race - Pro 3
It's a real credit to the Speed 2 that it remains a favourite despite it being a couple of years old. By far my favourite shoe at the moment.
I use a combination of the Speed 2 and Adios 6 for daily / tempo sessions and Takumi Sen 8 for 5 & 10k races. I have a number of super shoes but going with the Puma Fast-R for Dublin marathon in a few weeks - it's feels like the best of the Vaporfly & Alphafly in one shoe to me 👍
My favorites..: Daily= Endorphin speeds (1&2), evoride.. LR= glideride, OG carbon x, tempo= rebel v2, endorphin pro 2, race= metaspeed sky, takumi sen 8, adios pro.
The next SC Elite! The carbon plated racers for the 3 hour marathoners (and those with Yeti feet). I didn’t want to rack up so much long run miles in RC Elite 2, so I’m glad to know that the Trainer works well in that use case.
I was interested in Jarrett’s rotation for all us Yeti feet people.
New to running novablast 3 are coming in tonight plan on taking them on a 45 minute easy run
My current lineup
Race: Vaporfly 2
Tempo: Endorphin Speed 2
Daily: Clifton 8
Recovery: More V4
I’m looking to get the Novablast 3 next as my hoka’s are getting long in the tooth only 160 miles in. The Speed 2 has been amazing except it’s just a bit unstable for easy paces, so I might find something else for my long runs. I’m more than happy with my race and recovery options, and I’m only intrigued by other race shoes simply just to see how they feel.
Nova blast 3's are literally incredible. Maybe it's just perfect for my foot but I have a ton of pairs, whenever I go back to them i literally feel back at home lol
I recently picked the Streakfly and am loving them! Like Thomas says, such a fun shoe to run in. I've been using them for tempo and marathon-paced runs so far, and would happily race a half in them. And I'm 6'3 and 183lbs, so not exactly a mtatchstick man in runner terms.
Got back into running about a year ago, been running in just some Pegasus 39s. But the reviews about novablast finally got me. Ordered some!
Enjoy!
Got my daily, max cushion, and a tempo/race shoe. And a trail shoe. And a plated tempo shoe... And a low-cut hiker...
My guy Robbie throwing my Nimbus 24 a bone! 💪 they’ve also added some decent colorways to the lineup in the last few months.
It's such a great workhorse shoe! - R
Would have really liked to know wide Jarrett's picks and his thoughts on the Novablast 3. They don't make NB3 in a wide and would have liked to hear his thoughts beyond the hype for the wide foot fam.
We'll have to get him in for his picks
I did get a pair that I need to put more miles in (I’ve been so dang busy with the new house!), but I’ve done a few runs. I love the midsole and I wish it came in wide. A little tight in the midfoot as expected, but I was able to get 6 miles in them. Probably wouldn’t go further because the standard width tightness.
I did try on the Streakfly (in gorgeous bright orange!) and agree that if I didn’t have 2 pairs of the Takumi Sen8 I’d have bought it on the spot. Different but both great and similar use case.
One of my favorite daily trainers of all time was the Boston 8. Coming from that school of running, my current rotation now is Takumi Sen 8 as my daily trainer 😬, Adios Pro 2 as my tempo/ long run 😅, and race day is Adios Pro 3 😎. I’m waiting on my Prime X Strung and not sure how I’m going to throw that in the blender 🤷🏽♂️😂.
You should try out some adidas running shoes cause your rotation seems like it’s sparse on that brand ;)
How are the TS and Pro2 holding up? I've wondered about using top tier shoes for everything... assuming you can afford it (or find great deals) I can only imagine durability is the only obstacle.
@@michaeltanel3815 Honestly I found great deals ( and you still can too) and they have been holding up very well so far. The lightstrike pro midsole still have a lot of life left with over 300+ miles
@@wilfredo-teyrosalesfotos Great to know! Thank you. I have the Adios 6, Boston 11, TS8 and Pro3 (all good sales) and love them. I'm 6' and' 205lb myself, so need the extra bounce. Thanks for the reply! Cheers.
@@michaeltanel3815 🤜🏾🤛🏻
I recently bought the novablast 3, great shoe soft, light and springy. I'm really struggling with the shape of the outsole, too narrow in the heel and midfoot and the extension behind the heel is not comfortable when walking or running at low paces.
Hi! I’m doing my first marathon in about 5 weeks and just learned the hard way that using a rotation of only 2 Kinvara 13s isn’t the best idea for the body. What would you do here in terms of fixing my shoe rotation? I ordered a pair of Endorphin Shift 3s to use on my longer runs, but i don’t know about the rest of it at this point. Love your channel! Learning lots :)
Thanks guys, this is great!! Which one would you suggest using for loooooong runs with speed workouts? Like a 16 miler when every other mile is at marathon pace?
Tempo
@@Believeintherun thank you!!
It’s kinda romantic when Thomas ask Meaghan “would you stick around for my picks?” Awww! Might have to get that novablast damnnn
is this a good rotation for my upcoming xc season, daily trainer: novablast 3 Race and tempo, takumi sen 10.
Current lineup
Race: Asics Sortie Magic
Tempo: Asics Tarthezeal
Daily: Asics Novablast 3
Recovery/long run: New balance rebel V2
Hello! What would you recommend to a person (me) who started to run 6 miles the ago and that is aiming to be good on 10k? I just have a pair of Saucony Ride 17 ( love them), but I feel I need to buy another pair for the Sunday “long” runs, and keep the Ride 17 for the speed workouts
The Gel Nimbus 24 has been my favorite Daily Trainer this year but I haven’t tried the Novablast 3. With all of you picking the Novablast 3, I guess I’m missing out.
Hello. I would like your advice. I started running more actively and experimenting with sneakers. I am preparing for a half marathon. I have a Vomero 17, a Nimbus 25 and today I bought and tested the Adizero SL2. Vomero 17 - soft, stable, I like them for easy runs. I was excited about the Nimbus 25 at first, but now they seem cumbersome and very slow. SL2 - excellent: today both the pace improved, and the speed, and the heart rate did not increase. My question is, should I replace the Nimbus 25 with something else for slow recovery runs? Are they not needed at all with Vomero 17? And what sneakers would you recommend for my collection to close all questions? I will be very grateful.
The SE Trainer has totally given me the confidence to run again after my full hip replacement 3 years ago! I will however not be going Full Mileage anymore, but it’s sure nice to run some 5k runs every other day to just be out there again 🏃♂️
Really love all this shoe choices! Great selection from the team.
Totally there with the Speed 2 for tempo
Like for Robbe, Meaghan, Brandon and Thomas. For me:
Long distance = NB 1080 v12
Daily Trainer = Novablast3
Race day = Kinvara13
A nice Friday for everyone. ☀️🏃♂️☀️
My all Nike shoe rotation:
Daily/ Casual: Infinity Run 3
Long Run/ Recovery: Invincible Run 2
Speed Work: Pegasus 38
Racing 10k+: Zoom Fly 5
What about a rotation for runners who dont plan on racing or training specifically for a target? Just running for over all health but still wants a structured plan like a basic
-Short talking pace run
-Long run
-Recovery run
How would you build a rotation like that ?
Short talking pace run: Triumph 20 (it's on sale) or Adidas Adizero SL (on sale too), Hoka Clifton 9, NB V12/13
Long Run: Asics Superblast, Saucony Kinvara Pro or Boston 12.
Recovery Run: Asics Gel-Nimbus 25 or NB SC trainer Elite V2, or NB More V4.
Some of my suggestions
What about wide foot Jarred's picks???
Stuck between choosing the Glideride 3, Nimbus 24 or the Shift 3 as a long run day/daily trainer cross. I'm moving up from the half marathon distance to the full marathon this new year. Any insights?
Glideride 3
Are there any suggestions for those who need a mild stability shoe?
Saucony Tempus
Hey guys! I’m racing a half Ironman later this year with a HM target of 1:45 (ideally 1:40). I want a shoe that will be faster than a daily and super forgiving on my feet. I’m leaning towards the SC Trainer because I love the fuel cell in my rebel v3. Any thoughts or recommendations? Thanks!!
Can you make one for new runners who pronate.
My current rotation is the novablast 3, peg turbo next nature, and vaporfly 2.
Easy/Daily: I put 500 miles in my first pair of novablast 2s, and 300 more in my second pair. The additional stack and new foam is a massive upgrade, It feel massively more comfortable and bouncy while being way lighter. I have 75 miles in them now and they just keep feeling better.
Tempo (kinda): I've been using the peg turbo since I was able to get a pair for like $90, and I kinda like it? I typically just rotate it on my easy days with the noablast, and it's ok. It takes a few miles to warm up the foam and after that it's pretty bouncy. I've also used it for a 12 mile long run after a race which really surprised me with how good I ended up feeling. I can pick up the pace decently well, but the novablast is overall better.
Threshold/Race day: The vaportfly is just so good. I have about 150 miles in my pair and they just feel so good. Anything from 400 reps to mile or 2k repeats feels amazing. I use them maybe once or twice a week but thanks to the zoomx foam after every workout I just feel great.
Race day (spikes): Dragonflys. They're the best spike I've ever used. my prs from 400 all the way to 8k all happened in one pair of dragonflys.
Peg nature is working for you? We never got it but knew a lot of people didn't like it
Just got a rebel v3. Will use as a race shoe until I can find a carbon shoe on sale
One aspect you didn't address is stability. I have moderate pronation (worse in left foot that right). I can and do run my races, even marathons, in neutral shoes, but I can't do all my training in neutrals, so I alternate. I have max-cushioned stability shoes for easy runs, more minimalist stability shoes which I use for some speedwork and some long runs, and nylon-plated neutral shoes for speedwork and some races. I save my carbon-plated shoes for marathons and other races where I'm going for pb.
My Novoblast 3 's arrive this afternoon!!!
Would be great to get Jarretts picks if you can please!
Super comp is my favorite long run Might have to get the novablast😂
Recently got the Novablast 3, not a massive fan in all honesty. Feels a bit harsh and slow.
Current rotation is:
Daily trainer - Novablast 3 (until recently was Saucony Ride 15)
Speed / Tempo - Saucony Speed 2
Race - Alpha Fly Next Percent 2
Interesting...I just ran in the endorphin speed 3 and novablast 3. Ended up returning the speed 3 bc they felt stiff, were a little snug and had less bounce than the novablast 3. I weigh 185lbs and midfoot strike.
@@Strizzle81 Yeah i know everyone has different bodies and preferences but I just personally found them a bit harsh considering the foam feels soft. The Ride and the Speed (2) feel a lot harder foam wise but seem to absorb the contact/shock better in my opinion. I’ll see how they go after some more miles.
what's the best non-plate race day shoe you'd recommend? I'm a little hesitant to spend the money on a plated shoe for racing since I've never used one before...
Howt different is the novablast 2 and 3. All this talk about novablast makes me wanna try. Is it worth it to spend the extra to get the 3 or save some $ and get the 2 now and then the 3 later when gets marked down? I have never tried the novablast. Thanks!
The Novablast 3 is noticeably lighter than the 2. The 3 is as cushioned but bouncier. I'm much happier with the few miles I've run in the 3 over the 200mi I ran in the 2.
The 3 is definitely our favorite to date, but you really can't go wrong with the 2 either and try the 3 if you like that feel but want something lighter
Daily Trainer - Adidas Prime X Strung
Tempo - Saucony Endorphin Speed 3
Race - Saucony Endorphin Pro 3
Can i use the fuel cell sc elite v3 for everyday runs ?
Updated Version of this video please!
It's hard to pick something else other than the Novablast 3 for best daily trainer. Even if I run my PR effort today, my feet will feel fresh the next day almost like nothing happened it's just ridiculous. Comfort, lightness, energy return, stability, looks, almost everything you could possibly ask for.
Agreed. Best trainers I’ve ever owned
I went to go look at them in store and the store person was trashing them so I'm kind of second guessing myself. Is the Novablast 3 as good as they say?
@@SuperCuttyBlackSow It’s a good shoe man. I wouldn’t bash it. I run 5ks. Working up to 10k. It’s an easy daily trainer. It also works great for tempo paces. A fun shoe. Seems like it gets a lot of mixed reviews.
May i ask, is the Novablast 3 a stable neutral shoe?
which one i should pick, novablast 3 vs mach 5 vs rebel v3 for an all around shoes, currently i have clifton 7 n rocket x, thx
Currently: NB 880 v12 & Hoka Rincon 3 for daily/easy (both on the way out and will be replaced by either the Novablast 3 or Hoka Mach 5), Streakfly & Endorphin Speed 2 for tempo & marathon pace workouts, Deviate Nitro Elite for race day. For the trails it’s Speedgoat 5, Peregrine 12, Pegasus Trail 4, and Hoka Zinal, depending on the run & conditions.
Zinal didn't get enough love, that's a freakin' great shoe that people forget about
ADIDAS Adios Pro 3, BROOKS Hyperion Tempo, NIKE React Infinity Run Flyknit, SAUCONY Endorphin Speed…planning to add ADIDAS Takumi Sen 8/9, HOKA Mach 5, MIZUNO Wave Rebellion Pro, 361 Spire 5.
Hey guys. I’m off on holiday soon and only have space for one shoe. What would you recommend I take? My choices are: tempo next%, Speed 2, Rebel V2, Pegasus 37/38/39, Vaporfly, Alphafly, Deviate Nitro, Rocket X & original Novablast. I’ll be doing easy runs and some sessions, but probably not a long run. Appreciate any help!
Amazing timing…just got my Novablast 3’s delivered today so nice confirmation bias here 😂
I currently have ua velocity which i use a daily/tempo shoe. Interested to buy novablast or endorphin speed. Its better if i make novablast my daily and ua velocity as tempo or velocity as daily and endorphin speed as tempo?
Hi guys, the Novablast 2 was a bit underwhelming for me. I'm a forefoot runner. I can't feel the cushioning of the FFblast foam. I'm just wondering if it will happen with the V3.
Great content guys, thanks….can you please review the new rc elite 3 from new Balance….?
Great video, do you have a race day recommendation for slower pace (13mil/min)first time marathon runner? I do my long run in glycerin 20, but looking to see if there is any comfortable race day carbon shoes at this pace. Thanks in advance!
SC Trainer
would like to know what everyone's shoe they would grab is if they could only have ONE for everything. I used the rebel v2 as my one shoe, but I only go up to a half marathon as my long race, I prefer 10k as the best distance. I'm excited to try rebel v3
Is the Fuell Cell different in the RC elite then it is on the SC Trainer?
Yes
Great video guys love it really needed this!
How about us trail runners?
Great video, this is very helpful. Would you guys still say that it's good to size down half a size on the Novablast 3?
I recently tried them on while traveling in an Asics store and 1/2 size down fit me very well. I asked my favorite independent running store to order them for me in that size. However, it’s a wise idea to try both sizes because it may depend on where your particular foot (especially larger foot if they aren’t the same) falls within your size, hence the varying opinions. Martha
@@Martha-fluterunner Thanks for the input. They're not out yet where I live (Canada) but seems its best to wait till my local running store has them.
Half size down should be fine, kind of in between
@@Believeintherun Thanks
My rotation: New Balance 880s / Rebel V2s / Takumi Sen 8s. It's funny to hear you call the Takumi Sens a tempo shoe, and use "race day" as meaning marathon shoe. Do most people run marathons? I get that if you already have marathon super shoes you can wear them in 10ks and 5ks. But for those of us who don't run marathons a pair of Takumi Sens (on sale for $110!) make a lot more sense.
Takumi Sen 8 is my 5K/10K race shoe and I could possibly take them up to HM distance. I do not waste them on training speedwork. I have other shoes (like the Hyperion Tempo or even TS7 on the track) for that.
I was also thinking exactly this, most of my races are 5/10k and chose the TS8 over supershoes for that distance. I've tried super shoes for 5/10k and of course they are really good, but can't quite find the times I can get in the TS8 - it's underrated! So light, nimble and fast, not sure how they can improve it but hopefully a 9 will come.
good sign that I already have 2 of the 3 shoes in the thumbnail 😜
My rotation is daily trainer Adidas Adistar, tempo adidas SL20.2 recovery/ easy in adidas solar boost 3 and race day i use Adidas adizero Pro
You're really living that three stripe life!
I’m running the Chicago marathon this weekend, and I have been training and ran a couple of half marathons in speed 2s so I was planning on doing the marathon in that shoe. But, the local store here just got the pro 3s… Do you think it’s a bad idea to purchase pro 3s now and use that to run the marathon without having done any training in them?
Would at least test them out beforehand, it's a much different fit and feel
Endorphin shift 3 daily trainer,Endorphin pro 3 tempo shoe and Nike Zoom fly on race day
I'm with Robbe, the MaxRoad 5 tried to sneak back into my rotation just before I picked up the Novablast 3. Any word on a MaxRoad 6?
No word at the moment!
I have 144 miles on my NB RC elite 2s and tempted to run 1 more marathon in it . Still feels great. How many miles do you guys put on your racers before retiring them? Do you use them for tempos after a certain mileage?
Yeah, we use older race day shoes for tempo runs as well.
I’ve got 215 miles in the purple rc2s. I could still race in them (although who doesn’t love a fresh pair)
@@jarrettw7753 I think I’m gonna save the dough and use these for one more race. Such great shoes.
stuff you're going to look for in Canada is fit, durability (though most reviewers can't estimate with 100 miles), cushioning AND TRACTION IN WINTER... Endorphin Speed 2 and Novablast 3 (though TR version might be) are definite nope for winter season.
what’s the hoodie that Robbe is wearing? Love the look of it.
Janji Circuit Hoodie! One of my all-time faves. janji.com/products/ws-circuit-hoodie-in-sage
Hey, I’m looking to go for a full Ironman in December this year. I’m not the fastest runner, but probably intending to do it at about 7min/km ish pace.
I have the alpha fly 2, but kinda hurts my wide feet a lot. Do you guys have any shoe recommendations for wide feet around 2E or 4E?
Check out the website for Wide shoe reviews
@@Believeintherun Read through the website, didn't know that there was one!
Got the SC Trainer, and 24km logged, it's definitely one of the most fun experience I've had thus far on a shoe!
I like those socks! How do you become a “person in need?” 😂 asking for a friend…
Tell me if mine make sense:
Daily Trainer: Carbonx2
Max Cushion: NB 1080v12/ Hoka Clifton 7
Race day VFn%2
That works!
Takumi sen strung would be great
Alphafly is my favorite shoe for giving me nasty blisters on my feet if you need blisters this shoes got it!
Asics Evoride speed (dayli) Asics Magic Speed 2 (tempo and race)
I have no doubt the plated shoes provide a boost....I just found I can't seem to run more than 6 miles or so in carbon plated shoes before the bottom of my feet start screaming. I just picked up the Altra Vanish Tempo as a potential marathon shoe.....seems snappy but w/o the plate.
Agreed, I went for a 12 mile run in my saucony endorphin pros and the soles of my feet were super sore afterwards. Thankfully not all carbon plated shoes are built the same
Vanish Tempo is a great non-plated option, just pricey AF
Love your content! You guys should highly consider adding timestamps to your videos. 🙂
Great vid
Meg should stock up on that alphafly
Would be cool to get wide foot Jarred’s POV!
hello, can you help me for a rotation of stability shoes please?
Hi Akuelfoley. In my opinión:
Long distance: Asics Kayano
Daily Trainer: NB Fuelcell Prism 2
A nice Friday for you.
I believe glideride3 shud be a good option ..
Definitely the Saucony Tempus, which can almost double as a tempo and daily trainer if you need it to.
Thanks a lot
RECOVERY shoes!!!! 😆😆😆😆
Ill have to go back and look at the NB3 reviews but I dont remember anyone saying it was that much different than the NB2 if so its a hard pass for me, shoe just doesn't work for me same with the Alphafly...(hmm I may be deleted after those two comments - dont hate me LOL) Takumi Sen is something I have wanted to try out for a bit so Ill probably give that a go. Same with the Metaspeed Edge my local store doesn't carry either so Ill just have to bite the bullet and pick up a pair.
For my own lineup lets see probably all NB Rebel v2, SC Trainer, SC Racer (although I only have one 5 mile run in it so far - loved the RC Elite 2 and still have a lot of life in them) if I was gonna add one other shoe in I would probably swap the Rebel v2 out (its got over 300 miles in it) for the Hoka Mach5 and go Daily/Long - SC Trainer, Speed (I like to do it on the track) Hoka Mach 5, Race SC elite.
Can i say I don't like running in the fast shoes? I've bought two pairs in the past and I'm not fast, and I dont think they ever helped!
Velocity Nitro 2 (recovery, long)
Ride 15 (long)
Novablast 3 (interval)
ZoomX Streakfly (race)
“Gaining durability to lose durability” 😅
and the bad news - u can spend all the money of the world for raceday shoes then came someone who can run, and gonna be 2 min/km faster in a 1 usd chinese flipflop
You can buy a Porsche and get beat buy a modified Honda civic.
I find that building a shoe rotation is easy. You just buy all the shoes that shoe-tubers rave about.
The trouble seems to be wearing them out so you can justify buying new shoes. Right now I'm struggling to wear out the Novablast and Endorphin Speed so I can buy the 3's; but when you have like 7 pairs of shoes it's hard for an average runner to rack up the miles in them.
I dont really do races; so that category doesnt matter as much for me, but of course you still want that shoe that makes you feel fast for those runs when you try for a new pb.
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