personally Im glad the rear sway bar didn't fit when I lifted mine and I am very content/satisfied with how it rides as is now the pro suspension is really amazing just went up the canyon with my daughter she has a few friends with Tundras and they offroad quite often as do I she even made the comment how well my truck handled and how smooth it was going up the canyon she was very impressed, and I will say considering the actual speed at which I travel off road is pretty fast and the truck is still so nimble and smooth. I smile every single time!
If you have a big lift like a 4.5 inch I would highly recommend keeping sway bars on. However if your going to go off roading , you can remove them before you go out but if you put them back on you will have to re torque them so it’s best most of the time to just leave them alone on a bigger lifted truck.
I like the direction you are going with the Fox shocks. If you are going to remove the sway bars for the new TRD Suspension, I say do it a few weeks before you swap over from the Bilsteins so you can really see if there is a big difference "apples to apples"
The sway bar takes away from what the TRD Pro suspension is supposed to do by removing body roll it fails to articulate so it lowers the ability to insulate you from bumps. Lower wheel rates translate into better traction off road. On lower level Tundras the rear sway bar is a huge help on road and doesn't make for a jarring ride. The front sway bar doesn't help as much on road handling especially on the on/off ramps but it introduces far more jarring so I took mine off and sold it. A nice in between is the Sequoia bar, you get a little extra up front enough to feel it in the curves without making the truck jarring. If the suspension is rated for the much stiffer TRD bar the Sequoia bar won't cause problems and is plug and play. You will need endlinks that are rated for the stiffer bar and the whole upgrade is pricey though so IMHO the rear bar alone is the best handling mod bang for the buck.
I did the Rear Sway bar and I like it. Should I do the Front TRD sway bar as well?? 2016 Tundra TRD OR Crew Cab. I do like my truck now as far as the ride. No Lift. Stock suspension
I agree. TRD isn't just for off road. It's for various racing applications. My 2015 Pro is perfect from factory... almost.lol Like you said, the sway bars are awesome IF you are looking for the performance specific to their functionality. On a off road driven platform, the TRD sway bars have no purpose. On a lowered or stock street queen, they are a perfect upgrade! I love the Tundra and will be a Tundra TRD Pro owner for as long as I can afford. You have a great channel by the way.
That’s why I love it, I don’t have those stif front springs so the TRD Front bar with the rear is great. I assure you, the TRD Sport Tundra doesn’t have the same springs.
Thanks for sharing your experience and observation. It sounds like non TRD Pro or trucks with non upgraded suspensions will benefit more from the two sway bars. I like the ride and handling on my stock TRD non pro 2016 Tundra.
Ive been on the fence about the TRD rear sway bar. I’ve heard good things about it but just haven’t brought myself to buy one. Wish I could drive one before I spend a couple hundred bucks for one. 👍
Thanks for the video Mark, I’m glad I watched this before pulling the trigger, today I almost push the PLACE ORDER button for both rear and front sway bars. Mine is a TRD PRO and with this video you saved me $$$. Thanks
I installed rear sway bar on my TRD Pro. I don't do any hardcore off- roading I'm more master of pavement and I hated body roll especially while cornering, so for me it was perfect solution for that problem. Ride is little bit more stiff in rear section, nothing crazy but truck is more predictable, grips very well on curvy stretches, side or head winds are barely noticeable. It handles paved roads better in my opinion with no harm to ride comfort.
I have a 13 Tundra, SR5 with 6” lift, bilstien shocks front and back. My truck handles great even pulling a heavy trailer with the stock sway bars. Seems to me that most guys putting this mod on are trying to convince themselves that spending the cash was worth it. Almost every vid shows guys TRYING like crazy to tell a difference in ride, usually they can’t much. Tundras are great trucks out the door, and some mods are really not worth it. If you have a big truck, it’s going to get pushed around some in a strong wind and there’s nothing you’re going to do about it.
Dude I live in northern va and the pro suspension is the main reason I even started buying Tundra Pros, with that said my 19 pro fox shock are definitely a improvement from my 15 pro billstiene set up
I have a 2018 1794 TRD Off-road with the TRD rear sway bar. I have just picked up a brand new set of the 2019 TRD PRO FOX shocks and had Toyota install them. The truck now sets about 2 in higher in the front and is level with the rear. Completely different fell on the ride. I did noticed that the TRD Fox suspension seems to be slightly bumpy at lower speeds then the old TRD off-road shocks. My question is when you had your rear sway bar on with your pro suspension did you feel the bumps coming from the rear shocks or the front? I think ill try to find a disconnect kit for the rear bar or just disconnect it to see if it makes a difference. What’s anyone thoughts?
Did you pur the TRD PRO suspension on your Platinum Crewmax? If so. How much better does it ride over the stock suspension. I've been thinking about getting an Icon Vehicle Dynamics Stage 1 suspension for my 2018 Platinum Crewmax. I want no lift. Just s softer ride. My Tundra doesn't go offroad. What's your thoughts?
After I upgraded my suspension to old man emu heavy duty front coilovers and ome rear shocks I kinda hated my ride it was very stiff. After a lot of research on forums I found many ppl saying to remove the front sway bar since the suspension is so stiff you really don't need it. So I gave it a try and to my surprise it was a day and night difference it rides so much better and the body roll is really not that bad from when it was on. My suggestion if you do a lot of offroading or have a extremely stiff ride after a suspension upgrade is remove the sways. (Unless you have a 6inch lift) that would not be a good idea
Is one of your trd tips closer to your rear mud flaps than the other? My right tip is further forward than the left. They are both the same height though
So what are you saying? The front sway bar is great if you don't have the Pro suspension, and not so good if you do have the Pro suspension? Did I get that right?
The front sway bar is a downgrade if you have the TRD pro suspension, but an upgrade over stock. You can stiffen up the TRD suspension without the sway bar and not lose travel and whatnot
Would like the opportunity to purchase the Pro Bilsteins from you once you switch to Fox. Please keep me in mind. Thanks for your time and keep up the good work.
Gotta steer clear of stuff like that man, lots of fake news out there. The 2019 Raptor will be sporting the high output v6. No plans for a v8 as of right now
I have the sr5 so may go with the rear seat bar for my 6 inch lift. I will say I do not like the MT 35's on mine for highway driving. Dont get me wrong they look awesome but... I think a good AT would work best for my needs later on.
TundraDude34 ... True. I can ise one for a 4 inch lift in the rear as that is what a 6 inch lift is. 4 in rear 6 in front. But as you say that one probably wouldnt fit. I'm thinking a helwig.
This time we bought the 2018 TRD OFFROAD - Gas Bilsteins etc. and immediately noticed how much smoother the ride was over our previous SR5 model. Are you saying the TRD PRO is different again over the TRD OFFROAD? Never drove one.
Do you think your tires play a role in the rough ride with the sway bar?? If they were stock trd pro tires do you feel the ride may be a bit smoother with less correction needed at highway speeds??
I just had the TRD installed and I was literally looking at them both. I dont understand what the big deal is. They are nearly the same size and weight. The TRD is a bit beefier but it shouldnt affect the ride that much. I havent noticed any difference so far. Did you have any other parts installed at the same time?
Todd Orr, I’m getting ready to replace the front stock sway bar with the TRD one & add the rear TRD one as well. I agree with you on the front sway bar, technically we are only swap out the stock sway bar with the TRD, now my tundra is 2020 1794 edition, so I don’t have any of those off road stuffs, how is the ride quality after a month or two for your truck with the TRD sway bars?
I agree 💯 on what you have posted. When shopping for a new truck I drove a SR5 a Limited TRD and a Limited TRD Sport. The SR5 felt ok, the TRD Off Road felt like a Caddy and the TRD Sport felt like the F250 Super Duty I traded in. So as much as I liked the TRD Off Road I just changed out the factory Bilsteins for the Rancho RS9000XL for the best of all driving conditions. Be it off on the trails, everyday driving or towing my 30' camper. I'm just bummed out that Rancho no longer makes the MyRide system to adjust the shocks in cab on the fly :-(
Dude, I don't fully agree. I have a 2018 TRD Off Road. I didn't come with rear sway bar. Truck rode like you were gliding over baby rabbits. I put the TRD rear sway bar on and now I feel every road joint. It is a very jarring feeling, almost to the point of where I'd say it's "axle hop". So I don't think it is exclusive the the TRD PRO. I will say though that the truck sticks to the road very well otherwise. I can corner pretty hard and the truck just stays planted. The only time I don't feel that axle hop kind of feeling is when I have a little weight in the box. Also, mine has the 8' box, I wonder if that has anything to do with what I am experiencing. What do you or others think?
Then things haven't changed much in the last 40 years since I lived in there outside Newark. Every year I would have at least one flat tire and about every 3 years a bent rim from the potholes. I now live on the west coast and haven't had a flat tire in 30 years or better and no bent rims. Worse roads in America.
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The rear and front sway bars work very well on the 2WD Tundras.
personally Im glad the rear sway bar didn't fit when I lifted mine and I am very content/satisfied with how it rides as is now the pro suspension is really amazing just went up the canyon with my daughter she has a few friends with Tundras and they offroad quite often as do I she even made the comment how well my truck handled and how smooth it was going up the canyon she was very impressed, and I will say considering the actual speed at which I travel off road is pretty fast and the truck is still so nimble and smooth. I smile every single time!
Haha awesome
I have an ‘18 TRD Off Road. I had a sway bar put on the back and it’s been great. It really keeps the truck from leaning in curves.
Rear sway bar is great
Yes,I noticed that to w the TRD suspension!its smoother than other trucks riding on fckd up paved roads!its nice
If you have a big lift like a 4.5 inch I would highly recommend keeping sway bars on. However if your going to go off roading , you can remove them before you go out but if you put them back on you will have to re torque them so it’s best most of the time to just leave them alone on a bigger lifted truck.
Good video! Glad I went with just the rear. I’ll end up putting it on this week. Hope your having a good vacation man!
Thanks Cam Neely 😂
I noticed my SR5 doesn't have a rear one. Which I'm glad. Better for offroad. Its lifted on 35s. Not sure if stock has a rear one
That why you do what you do. And why we enjoy you. You're mistake our knowledge. Thanks
Thanks Mitch, I appreciate your support
I like the direction you are going with the Fox shocks. If you are going to remove the sway bars for the new TRD Suspension, I say do it a few weeks before you swap over from the Bilsteins so you can really see if there is a big difference "apples to apples"
Yep I definitely plan on doing that 👍🏼
The sway bar takes away from what the TRD Pro suspension is supposed to do by removing body roll it fails to articulate so it lowers the ability to insulate you from bumps. Lower wheel rates translate into better traction off road.
On lower level Tundras the rear sway bar is a huge help on road and doesn't make for a jarring ride. The front sway bar doesn't help as much on road handling especially on the on/off ramps but it introduces far more jarring so I took mine off and sold it. A nice in between is the Sequoia bar, you get a little extra up front enough to feel it in the curves without making the truck jarring. If the suspension is rated for the much stiffer TRD bar the Sequoia bar won't cause problems and is plug and play. You will need endlinks that are rated for the stiffer bar and the whole upgrade is pricey though so IMHO the rear bar alone is the best handling mod bang for the buck.
I did the Rear Sway bar and I like it. Should I do the Front TRD sway bar as well?? 2016 Tundra TRD OR Crew Cab.
I do like my truck now as far as the ride. No Lift. Stock suspension
I agree. TRD isn't just for off road. It's for various racing applications. My 2015 Pro is perfect from factory... almost.lol Like you said, the sway bars are awesome IF you are looking for the performance specific to their functionality. On a off road driven platform, the TRD sway bars have no purpose. On a lowered or stock street queen, they are a perfect upgrade! I love the Tundra and will be a Tundra TRD Pro owner for as long as I can afford. You have a great channel by the way.
That’s why I love it, I don’t have those stif front springs so the TRD Front bar with the rear is great.
I assure you, the TRD Sport Tundra doesn’t have the same springs.
No the trd sport doesn’t have anything like the pro springs.
Thanks for sharing your experience and observation. It sounds like non TRD Pro or trucks with non upgraded suspensions will benefit more from the two sway bars. I like the ride and handling on my stock TRD non pro 2016 Tundra.
Have a trd off road, added rear sway bar, front stock. Added 10 ply tires 275 70 18. Drives smooth as silk, corners better, no issues.
Do you still have the Stock Front TRD sway bar?? I got the rear a few weeks ago and Love it. I'm debating on getting the Front TRD Sway bar..
Ive been on the fence about the TRD rear sway bar. I’ve heard good things about it but just haven’t brought myself to buy one. Wish I could drive one before I spend a couple hundred bucks for one. 👍
I have the TRD.. not Pro with the rear sway bar.. and love it in high speed corners...lol.. Flat trackin...
Thanks for the video Mark, I’m glad I watched this before pulling the trigger, today I almost push the PLACE ORDER button for both rear and front sway bars.
Mine is a TRD PRO and with this video you saved me $$$.
Thanks
Doesn't the TRD Pro already have these though?
Someone needs to make a sway bar disconnect for you. Make it happen sparksparts.
For real
Thank you for this info, was wondering if I should get this. Thanks!!
I installed rear sway bar on my TRD Pro. I don't do any hardcore off- roading I'm more master of pavement and I hated body roll especially while cornering, so for me it was perfect solution for that problem. Ride is little bit more stiff in rear section, nothing crazy but truck is more predictable, grips very well on curvy stretches, side or head winds are barely noticeable. It handles paved roads better in my opinion with no harm to ride comfort.
Im thinking about getting one fir my trd pro..
I have a 13 Tundra, SR5 with 6” lift, bilstien shocks front and back. My truck handles great even pulling a heavy trailer with the stock sway bars. Seems to me that most guys putting this mod on are trying to convince themselves that spending the cash was worth it. Almost every vid shows guys TRYING like crazy to tell a difference in ride, usually they can’t much. Tundras are great trucks out the door, and some mods are really not worth it. If you have a big truck, it’s going to get pushed around some in a strong wind and there’s nothing you’re going to do about it.
Dude I live in northern va and the pro suspension is the main reason I even started buying Tundra Pros, with that said my 19 pro fox shock are definitely a improvement from my 15 pro billstiene set up
I have a 2018 1794 TRD Off-road with the TRD rear sway bar. I have just picked up a brand new set of the 2019 TRD PRO FOX shocks and had Toyota install them. The truck now sets about 2 in higher in the front and is level with the rear. Completely different fell on the ride. I did noticed that the TRD Fox suspension seems to be slightly bumpy at lower speeds then the old TRD off-road shocks. My question is when you had your rear sway bar on with your pro suspension did you feel the bumps coming from the rear shocks or the front? I think ill try to find a disconnect kit for the rear bar or just disconnect it to see if it makes a difference. What’s anyone thoughts?
Did you pur the TRD PRO suspension on your Platinum Crewmax? If so. How much better does it ride over the stock suspension. I've been thinking about getting an Icon Vehicle Dynamics Stage 1 suspension for my 2018 Platinum Crewmax. I want no lift. Just s softer ride. My Tundra doesn't go offroad. What's your thoughts?
After I upgraded my suspension to old man emu heavy duty front coilovers and ome rear shocks I kinda hated my ride it was very stiff. After a lot of research on forums I found many ppl saying to remove the front sway bar since the suspension is so stiff you really don't need it. So I gave it a try and to my surprise it was a day and night difference it rides so much better and the body roll is really not that bad from when it was on. My suggestion if you do a lot of offroading or have a extremely stiff ride after a suspension upgrade is remove the sways. (Unless you have a 6inch lift) that would not be a good idea
Thanks for the heads up!
I got a sport and it comes with sway bars..what if I do a 6-8 inch lift..recommend removing the sways? Or leave it? Does it matter?
Why would you put a sway bar ?
There is already a front sway bar on them stock. Wanted to see the difference with the TRD option
I thought about getting the TRD Pro Sway bars to use for Towing a Travel Trailer. Would you suggest not getting them then?
Guess I will stick to rear sway bar only then if I even put one on my trd off road. Need to look into it to see if I still want to
Is one of your trd tips closer to your rear mud flaps than the other? My right tip is further forward than the left. They are both the same height though
Ill check in the am
Thanks for the honesty.....
Always
There’s grease points on the front and rear main torque converter
So what are you saying? The front sway bar is great if you don't have the Pro suspension, and not so good if you do have the Pro suspension? Did I get that right?
Im basically saying, if you have the trd pro suspension, skip the sway bars. Atleast until u get a feel for it, then you can decide
The front sway bar is a downgrade if you have the TRD pro suspension, but an upgrade over stock. You can stiffen up the TRD suspension without the sway bar and not lose travel and whatnot
Thanks I’d be interested in it when it does.
Chris
Semper Fi
Thanks for your service!
Maybe that’s the reason the pro come with it’s own sway bar. Maybe this is why they don’t recommend it.
Thanks for the info,you are the best 👍
Thanks brother!
I have a 2017, Tundra 1794 non-TRD. I put on the rear anti sway bar and the ride is very smooth.
Yea definitely. The problem is the mixture of sway bar and TRD Pro Suspension 👍🏼
Would like the opportunity to purchase the Pro Bilsteins from you once you switch to Fox. Please keep me in mind. Thanks for your time and keep up the good work.
Get yourself some red spray paint and paint the original front sway bar, add a trd emblem and you're all set....
Good call!
What are your thoughts on the confirmed 7.0 liter v8 Ford will unveil in the Raptor?
Whens that happening? They already announced the same 3.5 setup in the 2019
Might want to dig deeper sir.
speedtwitch.com/report-2019-f-150-raptor-to-receive-fords-new-7-0l-dohc-v8-motor/
Seems as though, unlike Toyota, Ford listens to its loyal customer base 😱
Gotta steer clear of stuff like that man, lots of fake news out there. The 2019 Raptor will be sporting the high output v6. No plans for a v8 as of right now
ford makes a f250 with a 7.2l v8 if i am not mistaken
I have the sr5 so may go with the rear seat bar for my 6 inch lift. I will say I do not like the MT 35's on mine for highway driving. Dont get me wrong they look awesome but... I think a good AT would work best for my needs later on.
That might be too much lift to support the trd rear sway bar. May need longer end links
TundraDude34 ... True. I can ise one for a 4 inch lift in the rear as that is what a 6 inch lift is. 4 in rear 6 in front. But as you say that one probably wouldnt fit. I'm thinking a helwig.
Email sales@sparksparts.com see what they say
TundraDude34 ... Sure thing. Thanks. Need to send some pics of my build
Fan feature brother, looking forward to them
This time we bought the 2018 TRD OFFROAD - Gas Bilsteins etc. and immediately noticed how much smoother the ride was over our previous SR5 model. Are you saying the TRD PRO is different again over the TRD OFFROAD? Never drove one.
Yea the pro suspension is a bit more robust, with piggy back reservoirs. Also lifts it about 2 inches
Oh oh, it sits plenty high as it is. Guess I don't need that option. Thanks for the response, keep up the good work!
Do you think your tires play a role in the rough ride with the sway bar?? If they were stock trd pro tires do you feel the ride may be a bit smoother with less correction needed at highway speeds??
Great question. They were fine before the sway bar went on.
the older your tires get the ruffer the ride will be. thats why new tires rule on the road .
I like my tundra the way it is
If you the owner is happy, thats all that matters for sure
your awesome boss man......i still haven't lifted my white beast but i will one day.
How much lift?
TundraDude34 I honestly dk.....its hella pricy so I need to commit to one....you plan on changing yours soon to 2019???
bds all the way..
I have a regular TRD. Not pro or sport. Mine seems to handle really nice..when you take off your rear sway bar, send it to me.
Hmm so I was just thinking about getting one for my pro but now I’m not so sure...
Nothing wrong with giving it a try, but my experience has been interesting lol
I just had the TRD installed and I was literally looking at them both. I dont understand what the big deal is. They are nearly the same size and weight. The TRD is a bit beefier but it shouldnt affect the ride that much. I havent noticed any difference so far. Did you have any other parts installed at the same time?
Todd Orr, I’m getting ready to replace the front stock sway bar with the TRD one & add the rear TRD one as well. I agree with you on the front sway bar, technically we are only swap out the stock sway bar with the TRD, now my tundra is 2020 1794 edition, so I don’t have any of those off road stuffs, how is the ride quality after a month or two for your truck with the TRD sway bars?
@@johnphan1048 I dont really see a difference. I did move up to a larger tire size.
How much you want for the trd suspension???
How would it ride with just the rear Trd sway bar ?
It rides fine with the just the trd sway bar in the back. The Tundra comes with a non TRD front sway bar
Did u just add a resonator?
Try to get a Trd sport to review :)
I agree 💯 on what you have posted. When shopping for a new truck I drove a SR5 a Limited TRD and a Limited TRD Sport. The SR5 felt ok, the TRD Off Road felt like a Caddy and the TRD Sport felt like the F250 Super Duty I traded in. So as much as I liked the TRD Off Road I just changed out the factory Bilsteins for the Rancho RS9000XL for the best of all driving conditions. Be it off on the trails, everyday driving or towing my 30' camper. I'm just bummed out that Rancho no longer makes the MyRide system to adjust the shocks in cab on the fly :-(
What’s your tire pressure ?
Currently 35psi
I've seen alot of guys taking off their sways bars cos they do more offroad than city and highway.
Is your rear sway bar going to be for sale?
Might give it to the old man
TundraDude34 lol, just my luck. Lol. Sorry to email the same question on insta, I was just trying to get there FIRST...lol.
If you decide to sell the rear sway bar I would buy it
I have one Ill sell you.
Dude, I don't fully agree. I have a 2018 TRD Off Road. I didn't come with rear sway bar. Truck rode like you were gliding over baby rabbits. I put the TRD rear sway bar on and now I feel every road joint. It is a very jarring feeling, almost to the point of where I'd say it's "axle hop". So I don't think it is exclusive the the TRD PRO. I will say though that the truck sticks to the road very well otherwise. I can corner pretty hard and the truck just stays planted. The only time I don't feel that axle hop kind of feeling is when I have a little weight in the box. Also, mine has the 8' box, I wonder if that has anything to do with what I am experiencing. What do you or others think?
I would think that 8’ box has alot to do with it
Wait is gliding over baby rabbits good or bad ?
Is the trd off road suspension (not the trd pro suspension) good for bumps. by the way, nice scenery :)
The trd off road suspension is a bit bumpy, but not too bad
Can I have your sway bars when they come off?
Is your front sway bar for sale?
Probably when it comes off
Sleep habits - don’t care. Get to the point!!!
Oh stop, thanks for watching
Touché!
I get to the point!!!!!😪😪😴😴😴😥😴😣😣😣
Are you telling me to get to the point, or are you telling me you get to the point? You gotta proof read 😂😂😂
Front swaybar...Deactivate!😂😂😂
Hahaha
Take both sway bars off. Get rid of them.
I live in northern NJ. And the roads are terrible. I’ve been to 3rd world countries that have better roads then we do. Shameful on jerseys part.
Im in Central NJ, terrible as well
Then things haven't changed much in the last 40 years since I lived in there outside Newark. Every year I would have at least one flat tire and about every 3 years a bent rim from the potholes. I now live on the west coast and haven't had a flat tire in 30 years or better and no bent rims. Worse roads in America.
Are you trying to say "anti sway bar?"
Its the anti sway bar up front named the TRD front sway bar.
Ditch that truck and get a Nissan Titan
I like the Titan but its missing a few things that i like
Your confusing people
I dont like the trd front sway bar with the pro suspension, case and point
Blah, blah, blah...just get to it dude.
Patience is a virtue my dude