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Yes, and this performance was at the Abbey Church of St.Florian. Bruckner used to play on the organ, and his remains were buried in the floor directly beneath it. They are playing at a Bruckner shrine.
It's a pity that there are FIVE versions of this symphony (4 "originals" and the version of Robert Haas). I think that the version here is the Haas one :S
Karajan, al que muchos critican sin motivo de causa más que la envidia o simplemente el desconocimiento, ha sido uno de los directores más grandes y completos que han existido. Gracias a él, la música ha alcanzado una difusión impensable a mediados de los años 50 del pasado siglo.Esta Octava de Bruckner es una muestra de su genio.
I would rather say they're gifts of Anton Bruckner, not your Holy Floodmaker nor my Sarasvatii. He, Anton Bruckner, in his middle age began to create these Symphonies. He imagined each part in these complex scores, and wrote them down with a composer's pen, dipping it in an inwell after every line.
Particularly staggering & "philosophical" interpretation,(especially of the slow part),& emphasizing on the characteristic "Brucknerian" ostinati.(2nd part).Every conductor & orchestra who performed these colossal creations-no matter the personal taste- deserves our respect. Perhaps H. von Karajan had a real passion for spectacular staged recordings & gained in popularity, but it doesn't necessarily mean that he appreciated less the deeper,more difficult and "esoteric" repertoire (Bruckner, Mahler, Sibelius).
This could be the greatest, most profound performance of the 8th Symphony of Anton Bruckner. von Karajan is a giant, a master conductor. There will not be another like Maestro Karajan.
Symphony is staggering, conductor is amazing, orchestra is flawless, audience is respective, acoustics and hall are beautiful and the camera work is impeccable ! These people at Deutsche Grammophon do not mess around . Bruckner is the most under rated composer of all time ...
I couldn't agree more on all of your points. Seldomly, do we read about people praising the orchestras, for this orchestra is the best I have ever heard. Their inflection is uncanny.Thanks
R Gray I expected heavy handedness with Karajan, but so far ( Im just in the first movement ), so good. You're right about DG. They're the best. And you're EXACTLY right on about Bruckner being underrated. I'd add, one of the greatest! I think the greatest Symphonic composer. I'm near the end of this hearing. I still prefer Haitink/ Concertgebow/ Phillips.
@@Quotenwagnerianer I agree 100%. Taking into consideration that the élite of the rostrum of the last century, like Furtwängler, Celibidache,von Karajan Mehta or Giulini & and their famous orchestras spent a lot of time on studying,rehearsing & interpreting Bruckner,there's no need for further proof at all.
@@luganikos249 It's neither. This church and monastery of St. Florian lies in the market town of St. Florian, which in turn lies in the state of Upper Austria, of which Linz is the capital.
This is a painting. A wonderful stage, baroque, substantial, serene and explosive at the same time, the best stage for the Eighth, an unbeatable performance, an inspired Karajan and a professional orchestra in the highest degree, and submissive: an evening to remember. And what about the great movie direction? Those contrasts of close-ups with general shots, the control of the lighting, the multiplicity of points of view, the details, the agility of the whole. Who would have been there... The ABSOLUTE THING. Behold, Bruckner is also in the room, look for him.
I doubt it...however, Gunter Wand was pretty close when it came to conducting Bruckner. And, as heavy-handed as Celibidache was with the tempo, I appreciate his passion for Bruckner very much. But...Karajan is the greatest of them all
Bruckner's symphonies resonate with deep mystery and passion. To let the music wash over you is an emotional experience. There is a strange timelessness to Bruckner even though he was a product of the 19th century. I never pass up a chance to hear a live performance.
Hi Dennis! A true believer! ,I joke with folk by saying that Bruckner high up in the lofty reaches of The Cathedral playing the mighty organ as he did, had a RED button available -a Direct Line to God himself because the spirituality in some of his music makes your hair stand on end. Similar to say, Barber's Adagio, Mahler's No 2 (final movement).
I am a lifetime believer in Bruckner but also in the profound effect and influence he's had on other symphonic composers into the 20th and the current century. Have any of you heard the recently discovered symphonies of Marcel Tyberg performed by the Buffalo Symphony Orchestra? He has a distinct voice but also Brucknerian in influence and he also died so tragically in a concentration camp.
@Louise X There are 9 "standard" symphonies, plus the Nulelte (Symphony.zero) and the former #2, which B replaced. There are also two versions of Symphony four. Bruckner (like a few wise artists, forex Walt Whitman, who published many versions of his Leaves) never stopped revising. I lok at the symphonies as a whole: I would put them in a very long album and call it Bruckner's Symphonic Etudes. Hear them all!
The comfort of hearts of urbanites who are tired of the hustle and bustle of the city as Megalopolis with unimaginable muderous crowds , dangers and their relationship swirling .
If I was to choose the music to accompany my last moments on this Earth it would be the sublime final theme of the adagio in this symphony played by the horns and strings.......
It seems most of the comments for this video have been removed. There was a comment telling the history of this recording. I believe it was recorded in St. Florian monastery in Austria where Bruckner is entombed and where he used to play the magnificent organ there. I believe Karajan stayed alone for some time with the sarcophagus before the performance. The ambience must have been incredible in this beautiful setting and with a small audience too. Can't imagine what it must have been like sitting there listening to this performance. Phenomenal.
I wonder if Karajan had read the story (presumably true) of Bruckner's obsessive and weird fixed gaze on the exhumed remains of Beethoven. I think I saw that in a brief double biography called "Bruckner and Mahler" that was just about the only source of info available on those guys in the mid-1960s.
The Adagio will always be something special to me. It was the first slow movement that didn't bore me as a child even though, depending on who is conducting it can last for 30 minutes. I came to classical music in infancy. My first dance moves as a toddler came to the Scherzo of the Bruckner 9th. Later as I slowly discovered the greats I was not that much different from any other child. My attention span was limited. Slow movements bored me, I usually skipped them when I was listening to records. During my first symphony concert, somewhere around the age of 4 or 5, I fell asleep during the slow movement (on the program was Saint-Saens 3rd Symphony). The 2nd movements of the Mozart Symphonies I was familiar with at that time (40 and 41) did not hold any interest. And then at age 6 my father tried Bruckner with me. I had the same problem many people have with him at first. Islands of greatness in a sea of meandering boredom. And then came this Symphony and the Adagio... I was mesmerized. I still thought that the Finale dragged on for too long, but the Adagio, i never wanted it to stop. Still feel like this today 35 years later.
Bloody hell, he inflicted Bruckner on you at 6? That seems cruel and unusual punishment. Not sure I'd do that even if I had children. I came to Bruckner rather organically around age 20 or so.
"And then at age 6 my father tried Bruckner with me." Lucky boy. I' did not discover classical music until I was 10, but have closely followed it ever since. I did not hear Bruckner until I was middle.aged (curiously like Bruckner, who began his Symphonies in his middle age), and found them interesting but too long for comfortable listening, and had to agree with some commentators that Bruckner was music for Old People. So when I got my pension I began listening to Bruckner, and I have been doing so ever since. Lucky boy with a great father! "And then came this Symphony and the Adagio... I was mesmerized. I still thought that the Finale dragged on for too long, but the Adagio, i never wanted it to stop. Still feel like this today 35 years later." -- So you're middle.age, and you can access all these Symphonies (9 + 2) in many performances, great ones like this, or Bernstein, or many others, all free on youtube, this magificent repository of audiovisual art.
I grew up with Haydn, Mozart, Beethoven and Schubert, just as my father did and my son as well. I guess for Bruckner one needs to grow older. Let the kids make their own discoveries. I remember how I was amazed by Mahler's 5th at the age of approximately 25.
his adagios are absolute beauty and his codas are without rival...except for possibly Beethoven..hahaha! What an amazing and under appreciated composer Bruckner is
The Saint Saens has to be one of the greatest slow movements there is, especially live... you feel that organ deep in the very core of your being.. if anyone ever gets the chance to experience it in person, I highly highly recommend it. The last time I saw it, the man sitting next to me openly wept throughout that slow movement.... at the time I was almost annoyed, because I wanted to hear the music, but looking back on it I understand, and who can know what that music did to him. Anyway, I agree that Bruckner writes fantastic slow movements also. The adagio in the 7th is stunning also.
One of the most wonderful examples of of orchestral playing I have ever heard, and of one of the very most powerful pieces of music of any age. Thank you for sharing this. It is a complete joy.
St. Florian Monastery (German: Stift Sankt Florian) is an Augustinian monastery in the town of Sankt Florian, Austria. Founded in the early ninth century, and later refounded by Augustinians in the eleventh century, St. Florian is the largest monastery in Upper Austria, and rivals Melk Abbey and Klosterneuburg Monastery as among the most impressive examples of Baroque architecture in Austria.[1] The monastery is dedicated to Saint Florian,[Note 1] whose fourth century grave lies beneath the monastery. This is where Bruckner lived...He is buried beneath the organ...
Together with the main theme of the terrifying Scherzo of the 9th - a passage that has made many people wonder what mental images may have inspired the music.... It was written around 1890 - is he working from inklings of the horrors and wars of the 20th century?
This is from an admitted total novice in Bruckner (and classical more generally). Originally incapable of comprehending Bruckner, I grew to like him as I came to appreciate composing that did not resign to 'tune like' resolution, for lack of a better word. There are no holding hands when listening to Bruckner, and this Symphony to me epitomizes so much of what makes him a Maestro. This trenchant ever deepening layering, the rewards of repeat listens... And the conductor bends the music to its very own heartbeat... Not much honestly deserves to be called sublime. This does.
Dear Karlos, You have allowed Bruckner into your heart. You will never be sorry! Keep your musical brain working. Ther is no such thing as 'best composer' -each has added their contribution to Music. My tip is keep om truckin'forward into the 20th and 21st century, there are great treasures to be had. In the UK a burgeoning new top Composer hjas arrived called Karl Jenkins. The "Armed Man" is worth listening to. He is here to stay , I reckon!
Karlos B. It took me a while to truly appreciate Bruckner too. When I was younger and got into Classical music, I had to have that Tchaikovsky-like instant gratification. Not that I don't love Tchaikovsky anymore. My favorite composer is still Sibelius. But Bruckner is at a higher level, if you will. I love Dvorak too. Rachmaninov's 2nd Symphony is one of my favorites. Brahms' 2nd piano concerto is a must! I could go on. But back to Bruckner. I can relate to how he affects you. Like your comment about the layering. He goes from the strings to the flutes to the clarinets, withe the French horns, while the basses are murmuring and so on. And you can tell he was a master organist. And his Adagios almost make me cry. Every time. Well, enjoy! P.S. I consider the 8th his greatest. But my favorite is his 2nd. Just something about it that I feel an affinity for.
la vuitena de bruckner es un monument de la musica, I heard it at semperoper Dresde stadtkapelle dirigent thielemann starting de season three o four years ago
If you can find a more beautiful, uplifting, and breath taking piece of music than the Adagio then you're probably dead and listening to the sound of heaven itself. This is music from the cosmic realm, a spiritual journey into the absolute beauty of the universe and the sound of starlight, and Herbie knew the secrets to unlock it.
@Jorge García Robles why must you insist on acting like you know more about such things than "toomuchrose". That is exactly what is wrong with our world today Jorge!!!!!!! People express their opinions to hurt others in such narcissistic ways. Stop and wake up! Most obviously, you don't know more...that is absolutely IMPOSSIBLE bro, unless you are some type of saint .
Ironically, I feel like Bruckner encompasses Schopenhauer's musical aesthetic better than Wagner even. "Absolute music", no libretto, non-programmatic, pure expression of will.
anyone who detests Bruckner must be stuck in a comfort Zone of Grieg, Eine kleine nachtMusik etc. I concede it needs a little working at..but The Rewards ! 7,8 and 9 must rank a among the best trilogy of all Symphonic writing -so emotionally and Spiritually moving. Work at it all you disbelievers
You are right. I have only recently come to Bruckner. On superficial hearing it's easy to be turned of by the seeming long-windedness and bombast etc. His music takes a little effort but boy does it yield dividends if you're willing to put in the effort. Also, I agree about 7-9. I find with Bruckner he just kept getting better and better and the last three represent his apogee.
+David Humphries Hey, be nice to Grieg! Try his Funeral March for Rikaark Nordraak, his Homage March, or his Piano Concerto. The whole point is to portray Norwegian life, and while doing so he gives us some chilling sections.
We'd be in complete accord if you'd included the adagio of 6, surely one of the most staggeringly beautiful, transporting and sacred examples of sonata form ever accomplished.
I am passionately enthralled with Bruckner, yet I see no reason to disparage Grieg. His music is lovely. A little sad for you that you do not appreciate him.
Anyone who detests (insert 20th-century composer) must be stuck in a comfort Zone of (insert Post-romantic composer, insert random Bruckner symphony, etc). I concede it needs a little working at..but The Rewards !
Quelle musique ! Elle transcende les vicissitudes de la vie. Le chainon magique entre Wagner et Malher. Très belle version, et vraiment peut-on trouver meilleur choix que le philharmonique de Vienne ?
Douglas Murray inspired me to listen to this again; carefully. Parts reach the 'Celestial'... similar to Richard Strauss's 'Alpine Symphony'... It's about climbing, even struggling to reach the Sublime. Both echo Dante's long, difficult trek toward "Heaven".
Whoever did blame Karajan should have listened his interpretations for the works since 1970. I am sure they will realize Karajan was reached to God of music. Kleiber gave respects to Karajan deeply.
Bruckner brought the half diminished 7th chord to a whole new realm. Was it perhaps Wagner who sparked this obsession with his famous Tristan? Yes... however, Bruckner treats the chord with such direct awe and at some times existential burden, the likes of which Wagner never was able to reach.
18:00 The sustained strings and the tympani(s) are out of this world . The term ' magnificent ' doesn't seem to do it justice . Might be Gods favorite symphony !
Karajan is terrific as a conductor ... try this link to his 1965 recording of Berlioz's "Symphonie Fantastique" with real church bells. Still my favourite S.F.; Karajan true to form here as with Bruckner's 8th. th-cam.com/video/Q638gsvyNWc/w-d-xo.html
La 8@ sinfonía en do menor (1884-1887) de Anton Bruckner (4/9/1824-11/10/1896) fue estrenada el 18 de diciembre de 1892 bajo la dirección del director wagneriano Hans Richter.
Saw an opera not too long ago. Something about the conductor struck me as odd. I couldn't put my finger on it. Watching this here right now, I realized what it was. The conductor used music sheets. Karajan didn't.
Peter Schickele once announced a prize of the complete works of Bruckner on convenient 45rpm records. I can't hear Bruckner now without thinking of that, or wondering if Karajan also found him a bit long-winded.
Bernstein y Karajan, los dos mejores directores de la historia, despues les podran seguir los demas como Bohm, Abado, Solti, Mutti, Kemplerer, etc, pero ellos dos, los mejores.
Herbert Von Karajan was the highest Priest of Bruckner's cult. An absolutely enormous conductor of Bruckner's music. Amen!
YES.
Bruckners' cult . Kiss my posterior .
You are of superior knit . Sorry to bother you
Yes, and this performance was at the Abbey Church of St.Florian. Bruckner used to play on the organ, and his remains were buried in the floor directly beneath it. They are playing at a Bruckner shrine.
Our Bruckner friend Hoffrot Leopold Novak would like a word with you
Don't forget "The KNA" (Knappertsbusch)
The glory of Bruckner interpreted by von Karajan with the Wiener Philharmoniker. A sound like no other. Glorious and incredible.
It's a pity that there are FIVE versions of this symphony (4 "originals" and the version of Robert Haas). I think that the version here is the Haas one :S
Karajan, al que muchos critican sin motivo de causa más que la envidia o simplemente el desconocimiento, ha sido uno de los directores más grandes y completos que han existido. Gracias a él, la música ha alcanzado una difusión impensable a mediados de los años 50 del pasado siglo.Esta Octava de Bruckner es una muestra de su genio.
I miss live concerts!
th-cam.com/video/Q638gsvyNWc/w-d-xo.html
Almost as good as a live performance.
So do I. Cheers!
I never went to one 🙃
Thankfully we got ‘em back. I was sure they’d be a thing id be telling my son about
Whenever I listen to Karajan‘s Bruckner‘s symphonies,
something incredible, incredible feelings , and incredible solemnity surge up within me
The spiritual richness and solemnity with depth of Bruckner‘s symphonies surpass any country and time
No8 speaks to the depths of the soul
La más grande odisea bruckneriana con el mejor director del siglo XX.
Bruckner, Von Karajan, Vienna Phil., perfection!
Anton Bruckner had divine inspiration. His symphonies are gifts of God to humanity. Words fall miserably short.
I would rather say they're gifts of Anton Bruckner, not your Holy Floodmaker nor my Sarasvatii. He, Anton Bruckner, in his middle age began to create these Symphonies. He imagined each part in these complex scores, and wrote them down with a composer's pen, dipping it in an inwell after every line.
Jiva Das in my personal experience of symphonic composition (I have music permanently placed in the Royal Academy of Music, London), it’s both!
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In the most absolute way! I feel touched by God when I listen to two composers...Bach and Bruckner!
@@MichaelSydneyJones Hear hear,!
What we lost when Karajan left us.
what we lost when Bruckner left us
not as much as when we lost Carlos Kleiber and Abbado
Particularly staggering & "philosophical" interpretation,(especially of the slow part),& emphasizing on the characteristic "Brucknerian" ostinati.(2nd part).Every conductor & orchestra who performed these colossal creations-no matter the personal taste- deserves our respect. Perhaps H. von Karajan had a real passion for spectacular staged recordings & gained in popularity, but it doesn't necessarily mean that he appreciated less the deeper,more difficult and "esoteric" repertoire (Bruckner, Mahler, Sibelius).
@@daviedovey I do not want to prejudice these three great conductors. I respect all and get great inspirations from all.
This could be the greatest, most profound performance of the 8th Symphony of Anton Bruckner. von Karajan is a giant, a master conductor. There will not be another like Maestro Karajan.
it is the GREATEST
@@markwalton2968 The greatest is from Celibidache, sorry.
@@UgandaDNno, it's not. The most awful maybe.
La más grande odisea bruckneriana con el más grande director del siglo XX.
Bruckner's 8th is remarkably rich … so many magnificent moments … a magnum opus.
Symphony is staggering, conductor is amazing, orchestra is flawless, audience is respective, acoustics and hall are beautiful and the camera work is impeccable !
These people at Deutsche Grammophon do not mess around .
Bruckner is the most under rated composer of all time ...
I couldn't agree more on all of your points. Seldomly, do we read about people praising the orchestras, for this orchestra is the best I have ever heard. Their inflection is uncanny.Thanks
Listen to the oboe starting from 25:00
R Gray I expected heavy handedness with Karajan, but so far ( Im just in the first movement ), so good. You're right about DG. They're the best. And you're EXACTLY right on about Bruckner being underrated. I'd add, one of the greatest! I think the greatest Symphonic composer. I'm near the end of this hearing. I still prefer Haitink/ Concertgebow/ Phillips.
Bruckner underrated? Definately not in Austria and Germany.
@@Quotenwagnerianer I agree 100%. Taking into consideration that the élite of the rostrum of the last century, like Furtwängler, Celibidache,von Karajan Mehta or Giulini & and their famous orchestras spent a lot of time on studying,rehearsing & interpreting Bruckner,there's no need for further proof at all.
This is my favorite video on all of youtube.
That is the most beautiful response I've ever seen on You Tube !
00:00 - Allegro Moderato
16:20 - Scherzo (Allegro Moderato)
32:15 - Adagio (Feierlich langsam, doch nicht schleppend)
58:40 - Finale (Feierlich, nicht schnell)
Karajan certainly understands Bruekner's mind in this marvelous recording .Is it in a church or a concert hall ?
This was recorded the Augustinian church of St. Florian in Graz. It was where Bruckner was organist and taught for many years. He is buried there.
감사합니다😀😄
@@shawnhampton8503 Its Linz, NOT Graz!!!
@@luganikos249 It's neither. This church and monastery of St. Florian lies in the market town of St. Florian, which in turn lies in the state of Upper Austria, of which Linz is the capital.
Die mit Abstand beste Aufführung dieser herrlichen Sinfonie !
Bruckner must have given great thanks to Karajan in heaven for the absolute interpretation of his 8th.
This is a painting. A wonderful stage, baroque, substantial, serene and explosive at the same time, the best stage for the Eighth, an unbeatable performance, an inspired Karajan and a professional orchestra in the highest degree, and submissive: an evening to remember. And what about the great movie direction? Those contrasts of close-ups with general shots, the control of the lighting, the multiplicity of points of view, the details, the agility of the whole. Who would have been there... The ABSOLUTE THING. Behold, Bruckner is also in the room, look for him.
Will we have such great conductor again? He governs all notes of this great work and expresses entire musical meaning by phrase by phrase.
I doubt it...however, Gunter Wand was pretty close when it came to conducting Bruckner. And, as heavy-handed as Celibidache was with the tempo, I appreciate his passion for Bruckner very much. But...Karajan is the greatest of them all
Bruckner’s symphonies will the dryness of the soul
an immense piece of music
Bruckner's symphonies resonate with deep mystery and passion. To let the music wash over you is an emotional experience. There is a strange timelessness to Bruckner even though he was a product of the 19th century. I never pass up a chance to hear a live performance.
Hi Dennis! A true believer!
,I joke with folk by saying that Bruckner high up in the lofty reaches of The Cathedral playing the mighty organ as he did, had a RED button available -a Direct Line to God himself because the spirituality in some of his music makes your hair stand on end. Similar to say, Barber's Adagio, Mahler's No 2 (final movement).
I am a lifetime believer in Bruckner but also in the profound effect and influence he's had on other symphonic composers into the 20th and the current century. Have any of you heard the recently discovered symphonies of Marcel Tyberg performed by the Buffalo Symphony Orchestra? He has a distinct voice but also Brucknerian in influence and he also died so tragically in a concentration camp.
One of the greatest pieces of music ever written. And some of the others were by Bruckner too.
@Louise X There are 9 "standard" symphonies, plus the Nulelte (Symphony.zero) and the former #2, which B replaced. There are also two versions of Symphony four. Bruckner (like a few wise artists, forex Walt Whitman, who published many versions of his Leaves) never stopped revising. I lok at the symphonies as a whole: I would put them in a very long album and call it Bruckner's Symphonic Etudes. Hear them all!
@Louise X and more enjoyable for non.Wagnerians.
incredible..forever...
Magnificent!!!Divine symphony ,divine performance...Spiritual upliftment!
I heard this symphony in prague,gerd albrecht was conducting.
i had nerdchills throughout the concert.
bruckner was/is a saint
Ecstasy Pure ecstasy!
One of the most higest composition in the world
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The comfort of hearts of urbanites who are tired of the hustle and bustle of the city as Megalopolis with unimaginable muderous crowds , dangers and their relationship swirling .
Conducted from memory. No score. Amazing.
If I was to choose the music to accompany my last moments on this Earth it would be the sublime final theme of the adagio in this symphony played by the horns and strings.......
Someone else felt the same once
It seems most of the comments for this video have been removed. There was a comment telling the history of this recording. I believe it was recorded in St. Florian monastery in Austria where Bruckner is entombed and where he used to play the magnificent organ there. I believe Karajan stayed alone for some time with the sarcophagus before the performance. The ambience must have been incredible in this beautiful setting and with a small audience too. Can't imagine what it must have been like sitting there listening to this performance. Phenomenal.
This is correct. Herbie sat with Bruckner and it inspired him to scale the heights of the universe...
Thank You so much......
Heureusement qu'il y a vous qui se souvient de cette anecdote. Effectivement toute cette histoire et bien factuelle.
I wonder if Karajan had read the story (presumably true) of Bruckner's obsessive and weird fixed gaze on the exhumed remains of Beethoven. I think I saw that in a brief double biography called "Bruckner and Mahler" that was just about the only source of info available on those guys in the mid-1960s.
Exact ! :-)
The Adagio will always be something special to me.
It was the first slow movement that didn't bore me as a child even though, depending on who is conducting it can last for 30 minutes.
I came to classical music in infancy. My first dance moves as a toddler came to the Scherzo of the Bruckner 9th. Later as I slowly discovered the greats I was not that much different from any other child. My attention span was limited. Slow movements bored me, I usually skipped them when I was listening to records. During my first symphony concert, somewhere around the age of 4 or 5, I fell asleep during the slow movement (on the program was Saint-Saens 3rd Symphony). The 2nd movements of the Mozart Symphonies I was familiar with at that time (40 and 41) did not hold any interest.
And then at age 6 my father tried Bruckner with me. I had the same problem many people have with him at first. Islands of greatness in a sea of meandering boredom.
And then came this Symphony and the Adagio... I was mesmerized. I still thought that the Finale dragged on for too long, but the Adagio, i never wanted it to stop.
Still feel like this today 35 years later.
Bloody hell, he inflicted Bruckner on you at 6? That seems cruel and unusual punishment. Not sure I'd do that even if I had children.
I came to Bruckner rather organically around age 20 or so.
"And then at age 6 my father tried Bruckner with me."
Lucky boy. I' did not discover classical music until I was 10, but have closely followed it ever since. I did not hear Bruckner until I was middle.aged (curiously like Bruckner, who began his Symphonies in his middle age),
and found them interesting but too long for comfortable listening,
and had to agree with some commentators that Bruckner was music for Old People. So when I got my pension I began listening to Bruckner, and I have been doing so ever since. Lucky boy with a great father!
"And then came this Symphony and the Adagio... I was mesmerized. I still thought that the Finale dragged on for too long, but the Adagio, i never wanted it to stop.
Still feel like this today 35 years later." -- So you're middle.age, and you can access all these Symphonies (9 + 2) in many performances, great ones like this, or Bernstein, or many others, all free on youtube, this magificent repository of audiovisual art.
I grew up with Haydn, Mozart, Beethoven and Schubert, just as my father did and my son as well. I guess for Bruckner one needs to grow older. Let the kids make their own discoveries. I remember how I was amazed by Mahler's 5th at the age of approximately 25.
his adagios are absolute beauty and his codas are without rival...except for possibly Beethoven..hahaha! What an amazing and under appreciated composer Bruckner is
The Saint Saens has to be one of the greatest slow movements there is, especially live... you feel that organ deep in the very core of your being.. if anyone ever gets the chance to experience it in person, I highly highly recommend it.
The last time I saw it, the man sitting next to me openly wept throughout that slow movement.... at the time I was almost annoyed, because I wanted to hear the music, but looking back on it I understand, and who can know what that music did to him. Anyway, I agree that Bruckner writes fantastic slow movements also. The adagio in the 7th is stunning also.
One of the most wonderful examples of of orchestral playing I have ever heard, and of one of the very most powerful pieces of music of any age. Thank you for sharing this. It is a complete joy.
La grande classe de Karajan ! Quelle musique étonnante et magnifique à la fois. Les 2 dernières minutes et demi sont irrésistibles !
Woww increible... Karajan realmente interpretacion perfecta.. me intriga mucho que habra querido expresarnos Bruckner con esta espectacular sinfonia.
St. Florian Monastery (German: Stift Sankt Florian) is an Augustinian monastery in the town of Sankt Florian, Austria. Founded in the early ninth century, and later refounded by Augustinians in the eleventh century, St. Florian is the largest monastery in Upper Austria, and rivals Melk Abbey and Klosterneuburg Monastery as among the most impressive examples of Baroque architecture in Austria.[1] The monastery is dedicated to Saint Florian,[Note 1] whose fourth century grave lies beneath the monastery. This is where Bruckner lived...He is buried beneath the organ...
Amazing.
Immenso Karajan!!!!
1:13:20 is possibly one of the most badass moments in symphonic music.
1:21 also! grand!!!
Together with the main theme of the terrifying Scherzo of the 9th - a passage that has made many people wonder what mental images may have inspired the music.... It was written around 1890 - is he working from inklings of the horrors and wars of the 20th century?
Sublime
one of the best
the tempi perfect and a sense of the dramatic narrative. you can see saint michael coming.
exactly!!!!!!
🌷🌷💐🌷🌷 Very beautiful. 🌷🌷💐🌷🌷
Much thanks for this video.
This is from an admitted total novice in Bruckner (and classical more generally). Originally incapable of comprehending Bruckner, I grew to like him as I came to appreciate composing that did not resign to 'tune like' resolution, for lack of a better word. There are no holding hands when listening to Bruckner, and this Symphony to me epitomizes so much of what makes him a Maestro. This trenchant ever deepening layering, the rewards of repeat listens... And the conductor bends the music to its very own heartbeat... Not much honestly deserves to be called sublime. This does.
Dear Karlos, You have allowed Bruckner into your heart. You will never be sorry! Keep your musical brain working. Ther is no such thing as 'best composer' -each has added their contribution to Music.
My tip is keep om truckin'forward into the 20th and 21st century, there are great treasures to be had.
In the UK a burgeoning new top Composer hjas arrived called Karl Jenkins. The "Armed Man" is worth listening to. He is here to stay , I reckon!
Karlos B. It took me a while to truly appreciate Bruckner too. When I was younger and got into Classical music, I had to have that Tchaikovsky-like instant gratification. Not that I don't love Tchaikovsky anymore. My favorite composer is still Sibelius. But Bruckner is at a higher level, if you will. I love Dvorak too. Rachmaninov's 2nd Symphony is one of my favorites. Brahms' 2nd piano concerto is a must! I could go on. But back to Bruckner. I can relate to how he affects you. Like your comment about the layering. He goes from the strings to the flutes to the clarinets, withe the French horns, while the basses are murmuring and so on. And you can tell he was a master organist. And his Adagios almost make me cry. Every time. Well, enjoy! P.S. I consider the 8th his greatest. But my favorite is his 2nd. Just something about it that I feel an affinity for.
Well done, Karlos. Try Mahler too.
Karajan direct orchestra with majestic weight, recently I have seen none of conductors follow near to Karajan.
la vuitena de bruckner es un monument de la musica, I heard it at semperoper Dresde stadtkapelle dirigent thielemann starting de season three o four years ago
Um espetaculo dentro de outro espetáculo.Enorme concerto.
Finale (bits): 1:06:29, 1:08:26 viola/violin, 1:09:52 canonic entrances, 1:10:55 violins, 1:13:22 trombones/trumpets, 1:15:09 nice melody, 1:16:35 violins/basses, 1:20:32, 1:20:56 coda
If you can find a more beautiful, uplifting, and breath taking piece of music than the Adagio then you're probably dead and listening to the sound of heaven itself. This is music from the cosmic realm, a spiritual journey into the absolute beauty of the universe and the sound of starlight, and Herbie knew the secrets to unlock it.
toomuchrose ii
It truly is inspiring!
@Jorge García Robles why must you insist on acting like you know more about such things than "toomuchrose". That is exactly what is wrong with our world today Jorge!!!!!!! People express their opinions to hurt others in such narcissistic ways. Stop and wake up! Most obviously, you don't know more...that is absolutely IMPOSSIBLE bro, unless you are some type of saint .
i love these melodies.
Thank you so much for this.
Penthesilea just/
素晴しい
Ironically, I feel like Bruckner encompasses Schopenhauer's musical aesthetic better than Wagner even. "Absolute music", no libretto, non-programmatic, pure expression of will.
This is not beter than Tristan and Isolde imo
even though that's not what you're saying
Grenadier on beans Careful, your truths may offend someone...😜
I believe it is reasonable analisis for Bruckner as Bruckner made great progress in Wagnerian musics. Bruckner is more on universal than any others.
I'm afraid I can't agree with your statement. It seems to me that through every bar of Bruckner's music is woven his Christian faith.
anyone who detests Bruckner must be stuck in a comfort Zone of Grieg, Eine kleine nachtMusik etc. I concede it needs a little working at..but The Rewards ! 7,8 and 9 must rank a among the best trilogy of all Symphonic writing -so emotionally and Spiritually moving. Work at it all you disbelievers
You are right. I have only recently come to Bruckner. On superficial hearing it's easy to be turned of by the seeming long-windedness and bombast etc. His music takes a little effort but boy does it yield dividends if you're willing to put in the effort. Also, I agree about 7-9. I find with Bruckner he just kept getting better and better and the last three represent his apogee.
+David Humphries Hey, be nice to Grieg! Try his Funeral March for Rikaark Nordraak, his Homage March, or his Piano Concerto. The whole point is to portray Norwegian life, and while doing so he gives us some chilling sections.
We'd be in complete accord if you'd included the adagio of 6, surely one of the most staggeringly beautiful, transporting and sacred examples of sonata form ever accomplished.
I am passionately enthralled with Bruckner, yet I see no reason to disparage Grieg. His music is lovely. A little sad for you that you do not appreciate him.
Anyone who detests (insert 20th-century composer) must be stuck in a comfort Zone of (insert Post-romantic composer, insert random Bruckner symphony, etc). I concede it needs a little working at..but The Rewards !
Quelle musique ! Elle transcende les vicissitudes de la vie. Le chainon magique entre Wagner et Malher. Très belle version, et vraiment peut-on trouver meilleur choix que le philharmonique de Vienne ?
Ein Jahrhundertereignis! Wahrscheinlich ewig gültig.
Douglas Murray inspired me to listen to this again; carefully. Parts reach the 'Celestial'... similar to Richard Strauss's 'Alpine Symphony'... It's about climbing, even struggling to reach the Sublime. Both echo Dante's long, difficult trek toward "Heaven".
I find this recording to be the best, even though other conductors made a better name for themselves as Bruckner interpreters
Whoever did blame Karajan should have listened his interpretations for the works since 1970. I am sure they will realize Karajan was reached to God of music. Kleiber gave respects to Karajan deeply.
Indescribable ... simply cannot be put into words ...
Mit Gerhard Hetzel, 1.Konzertmeister und Werner Hink, 2. Konzertmeister! Schöne Erinnerungen werden wach.
...sabe-se q para celibidache,a oitava sinfonia de anton bruckner constituia a culminação de todo sinfonismo,desde stamitz e haydn.
Bruckner brought the half diminished 7th chord to a whole new realm. Was it perhaps Wagner who sparked this obsession with his famous Tristan? Yes... however, Bruckner treats the chord with such direct awe and at some times existential burden, the likes of which Wagner never was able to reach.
What is "the half diminished 7th chord"?
Is that what gives these me;odies their beauty?
48:49 from another world
Bruckner
Angel with heavy wings
weathering the stormwracked air,
listing heavenward.
Denise Levertov
Ein musikalischer Hörgenuß
18:00 The sustained strings and the tympani(s) are out of this world . The term ' magnificent ' doesn't seem to do it justice .
Might be Gods favorite symphony !
Does anyone happen to know the chord progressions used in the beginning of the Adagio section? This is an absolutely beautiful piece.
Most Beautiful Moment at 34:31
Bruckner is amazing. I think of him as Beethoven 2.0.
So did Wagner, who was captured by the 3d Symphony, and proclaimed him the successor to Beethoven (Wagner did not write any symphonies).
@@Jivanmuktishu: Actually, Wagner did compose a Symphony in C Major *(WWV 29)* in 1832. It has been recorded a number of times. 😎🎹
@@marshallartz395 it's considered juvenilia. He never wrote any mature symphonies
Karajan is terrific as a conductor ... try this link to his 1965 recording of Berlioz's "Symphonie Fantastique" with real church bells. Still my favourite S.F.; Karajan true to form here as with Bruckner's 8th. th-cam.com/video/Q638gsvyNWc/w-d-xo.html
Ôi, Bruckner!
No words.
A sinfonia mais linda do romantismo!
The finale tempo (last 60 seconds) is a little bit faster and unclear than Celibidache rendering of the same piece. Impressive piece. Superb music
Celibdache is always slower than most conductors.
Sometimes I think he falls asleep while conducting.
La 8@ sinfonía en do menor (1884-1887) de Anton Bruckner (4/9/1824-11/10/1896) fue estrenada el 18 de diciembre de 1892 bajo la dirección del director wagneriano Hans Richter.
19:07
1:07:50
My favourite moments ❤
Di riferimento assoluto la Sinfonia n. 8 di Anton Bruckner, diretta da Karajan nella mistica cornice di Sankt Florian
Timps go for it 1:04:33
13:40 la venida de Cristo
fonie 1967 /Osterfestspiele Salzburg Bruckners 8. Ich hörte Karajan mit den Berliner_Philharmonikern. Im BICH
Bruckner had no need of kneeling before anyone
1:21:00 :)
Bruckner 8 is a better symphony than Beethoven 9
Best Wagner Tuba..!
1:21:04 Start of one of the best finale ever
Celibidache has the perfect coda
Saw an opera not too long ago. Something about the conductor struck me as odd. I couldn't put my finger on it. Watching this here right now, I realized what it was. The conductor used music sheets. Karajan didn't.
Bei Karajan gibt es keine 2 Meinungen ...😍
I never understood why in classical music performance coverage the camera is always so stingy with percussions section even in Bruckner symphonies.
1:09:08 & 1:09:51
Peter Schickele once announced a prize of the complete works of Bruckner on convenient 45rpm records. I can't hear Bruckner now without thinking of that, or wondering if Karajan also found him a bit long-winded.
1:15:00 (note to self)
Bernstein y Karajan, los dos mejores directores de la historia, despues les podran seguir los demas como Bohm, Abado, Solti, Mutti, Kemplerer, etc, pero ellos dos, los mejores.
Kleiber ? Furtwangler ? Mravinsky ? Walter ?
Any one do the Goodness to tell me is this first or second version of Eighth?
I like this performance from the late 1970s better than the 1980s recording I wonder where it was performed?
I feel the same. The venue is St. Florian.
Evil Sith lord Herbert von Karajan reveals itself during this symphony's finale
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聖地ザンクトフローリアンでの記念碑的ライヴですね