Bruckner Symphony No 8 Celibidache Münchner Philharmoniker Live Tokyo 20 Oct 1990
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- Anton Bruckner - Symphony Number 8 in C minor
Version 1890 - Edition: Leopold Nowak
Münchner Philharmoniker conducted by Sergiu Celibidache
Live Suntory Hall Tokyo, 20 October 1990
1. Allegro moderato
2. Scherzo. Allegro moderato - Trio, langsam
3. Adagio. Feierlich langsam, doch nicht schleppend
4. Finale. Fierlich, nicht schnell - เพลง
この演奏会、私は会場で、生で
聴きました。
まさに神の声でした。
その時のプログラムの冊子は、
今でも宝物です。
Very many interesting comments. I remember this concert like it was yesterday. Here a short report how Maestro Celibidache prepared this unique concert in Tokyo. This live concert was recorded by NHK Japan, it was prepared and organized by Mr. Amano. As you can see on the film: there are no visible microphones, no extra lighting, no visible cameras. Nobody of the filming and recording team was allowed to be seen or be walking around during the performance; the NHK team had no chance of "rehearsing" the filming, there was no "run-through" before; the team was only allowed to attend the regular rehearsal the day before. For many reasons this performance of Bruckner 8th was one of the most memorable performance of this symphony under Celibidache and the Munich Philharmonic.
The day after that performance, at the next rehearsal, he greeted the orchestra with the words: "Thank you very much for a beautiful concert yesterday! We played better than we are". This seemingly silly or funny comment had a deep meaning: the concert was not an addition of 100 good players playing together correctly. We reached a much higher level by creating a unity and harmony, all only serving the beauty of the composition and not showing off an addition of individual brilliance. (More in my book "Memories of 17 years under Maestro Celibidache as principal bassoonist of the Munich Philharmonic", only English manuscript available from edelmann@edelmann-rust.com)
About the timpanist Peter Sadlo: he was one of the best timpanist I ever knew; he was always perfectly in tune, he could make the instrument sound like a pizzicato of a double bass, his rhythm was phenomenal (look at Celibidache's rehearsal of Beethoven 9th); the sound was always round and beautiful even in fortissimo; and most of all, he could match beautifully to the rest of the orchestra in creating a unity of sound with everybody. Sadlo was a great virtuoso soloist, so sometimes he had the tendencies to be too loud in relation to the rest of the orchestra, which caused a lot of conflicts with Celibidache. But in the end Celibidache convinced Peter Sadlo about the efforts to BLEND with the complete orchestra and the phenomenal results you can hear in this Bruckner Symphony.
Great story, I have never heard of bruckner or celibidache before today, I will definitely listen to this recording, do you have any other great pieces of bruckner that you played or just great pieces in general? I will check them out!
A precious testimony. Thanks ! I can remember about a young timpanist Celi used to call "Micha". Did you know him ? He was part of the orchestra when you went to Paris and played Bruckner's fifth... (1984, may be 85)
Viel dank. Beautiful stuff...I salute you.
Fabulous testimony. Many thanks.
I went to the two performances of Bruckner 8 that were in Paris in about 1987-8. I never thought of his performances as "slow." I just got into his rhythmic pulse that was rock solid. He always avoided that "gear change" that some conductors impose from bar 690 4th movement. (Nowak edition) Hence everything was inexorable in its truth.
私が大学生の頃ブルックナーの交響曲を初めて聴いたのがこの8番の交響曲の演奏でした。
壮大で複雑な曲を見事に表現したチェリビダッケの手腕は見事としか言いようのない素晴らしい演奏だったのを覚えています。それ以来この曲も私のお気に入りの1つとなりました。
This video truly is one of TH-cam's greatest treasures.
Indeed, it is. And it now finally reaches the 1 million views it derserves!
This unparalleled and inimitable version of the Bruckner 8 is positively addictive. Listened to it 100s of times over the last 6 or 7 years, never found any better. I like the youtube version even better than the EMI CD - I know, not the same performances - adds to the experience to see the musicians in action (as some other comment reads they are indeed "fucking gold"). Especially the Fourth Movement gets me every time - doesn't sound as good in the hands of anyone else. I wish this could be played at my funeral. One of the few regrets I will take to the grave is that I was quite often in Munich in the 80s and 90s, but too ignorant then to have ever assisted in a life performance.
Facts
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Agree. Here's another for you:
Shostakovich: Symphony No. 11. Landmark Performance - Stokowski & the Houston Symphony Orchestra.
th-cam.com/video/tV_jzHksJ8A/w-d-xo.html
Just. Awesome. Stuff.
I was fortunate enough to be a bassoonist in the LSO when Celi conducted us in the late 70s early 80s and I felt that my playing career had reached the pinnacle playing for him.
These Bruckner Symphony Sy.phony recordings are a great memento to a great musician and Maestro
Martin Gatt
LSO è ed è stata una delle orchestre più prestigiose del mondo e il Suo strumento dal bellissimo colore mi riporta alla memoria, fra gli altri, l'inizio della sinfonia "patetica" e i 37 concerti che Vivaldi dedicò al fagotto. Grazie per aver richiamato il suo ricordo come diretto testimone dell'arte di uno dei grandi del 900.
Wow amazing that you played in the LSO at that time. I was wondering if you could share more anecdotes of how rehearsals and performances were with him? Also, According to Anthony Camden, half the orchestra were in awe of him, while the other half couldn’t stand his rehearsal techniques. Is that true?
Please share more info’s
26:24 Oh and that timpanist... fucking gold every time. Dude's my hero!
AMEN to that...!
+Jonathan Conway hes terrific!!
+Jonathan Conway 1:18:40 is when he became my hero; and I don't even play percussion!
+Major Harper yessssss!!!! ace!
+Major Harper 26.25 he is ace! Just look at his face.
1. Allegro moderato (1:20)
2. Scherzo. Allegro moderato - Trio, langsam (21:24 - 26:45)
3. Adagio. Feierlich langsam, doch nicht schleppend (38:14)
4. Finale. Fierlich, nicht schnell (1:10:12)
Thanks
Gotta love those tempo instructions. "Feierlich langsam, doch nicht schleppend" - "solemnly slow, but not dragging"
Obrigado, senhor.
Thank you so much!
Thank you very much
The whole universe lives in this symphony.. Celibidache makes us see it in its full size. Truth and perfection, that's it.
Exactly my dear, exactly!.
Pretentious nonsense
Peter Sadlo’s timpani definitely is soul of this performance
The audience gave him anovation at the end of the concert, he stole the applause.
When listening to the immensity and grandeur of this music, I am humbled. My problems in life quickly become petty and small by comparison. This is the power of great artforms.
Yeah! Bruckner symphonies tend to put our singular problems into a high contrast perspective vs. the rather MUCH larger universal considerations! Good ear!!!!
Willingly or unwillingly, this turned out to be a monument for the great timpanist Peter Sadlo (d. 2016). The greatest of them all.
I went and listened to this concert at Suntory Hall. It was a amazing performance and the applause did not stop for about 30 minutes after the performance ended. This Bruckner perfomance has become a lifelong memory as well as Karajan's Richard Strauss at Carnegie Hall in 1982😳
karajan?gimme a break. not in.the league of Celi. Celi belongs to.the celestial league while karajan, kleiber, and the rest are....earthly.
Karajan is just a performer who likes female audiences. He himself said, ``I conduct for a beautiful woman.''
Listen carefully to Karajan's shallow expressions.
@@stareye3176 i got better things to do with my time than just listening to Karajan. besides recordings IS NOT MUSIC
30 minutes you say? wow, maybe your watch went haywire. you like coca cola? karajan and Bruckner never intersected.throughout karajan s life. i.dont think.u.get what im.saying
The commenter is probably a Gramophone (DGG) promoter.
Just listened to this for the umpteenth time, but first time with my new headphones, gazing at the night sky, the Southern Cross, in these parts and being totally transported by the sublime beauty of this masterpiece. Bravo to all!👏👏👏
当時生演奏体験しましたが、人生最高の体験でした♪
自分もサントリーホール２階で聴きました！
松田博和 うらやましい！
7番を、確かオーチャードホールで聴きました。生でチェリビダッケを聴けたのは、人生の宝ですよね。
This is the most beautiful thing I have ever heard in my entire life!
Tchaikovsky's Symphony No. 5. Beethoven Symphony No. 9. Shostakovich's Symphony No. 11. David Gilmour's "Where We Start", ...
Don't get me started!!!
But, yeah... Bruckner 11 is AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@thomassicard3733 eyy relax...when it comes to crying...i have never to the ones you mentioned but yeah its no topic for discussion hehe..enjoy it
This symphony is magnificent from beginning to end. The most beautiful symphony I have heard in my life.
AT a time of stress and uncertainty, this performance by the great maestro helps me keep confidence in humanity, even if it was held thirty years ago.
Why?
The depth of this masterpiece is unparalleled. Bruckner managed to capture something truly magical, in his slow, deliberate examination of suffering, the road, suspense, happiness, wrath and beauty. A brilliant performance from the maestro and the incredibly talented musicians who have brought this gripping tale to life. A performance snatched from fate. Bravo!!!
The best conductor and the best composer.
Greetings from Mexico.
私は1990年12月に初めてこの演奏をNHKFMで聴きました。古今東西素晴らしい音楽は数多ありますが、この演奏以外に世界＝全体＝神の存在に直接触れられたかのような体験を得られたことはありません。
素晴らしい演奏をアップ頂きありがとうございます。
Timpanist Very expressive! Bravo!
+Haroldo Carvalho Yes! One of the highlights is indeed the Timpanist!!
Peter Sadlo: An infant's racket on his mother's cooking pots signalled the start of Peter Sadlo's clear and extraordinary career, all based on his exceptional talent in the area of percussion. At the age of twelve years, he began studies at the prestigious "Meistersinger-Konservatorium" in Nürnberg. Shortly after, another decisive event occurred in the life of the talented drummer; acceptance into the "Musikhochschule Würzburg" where Sadlo met the doyen of german percussion art at that time, Siegfried Fink, who would support and mentor him. In 1982, when Peter Sadlo was only 20 years old, he accepted the position of solo timpanist at the Munich Philharmonic. There,for the second time, Peter Sadlo would meet a master who would strongly influences his future development: Sergiu Celibidache, the charismatic conductor of the Munich Philharmonic. In time, the two would develop a powerful common musical understanding.
@@maumusa123 wow, incredible thanks for sharing!
Une des meilleures interprétations que j'ai entendues de ce chef d'œuvre absolu. La coda du finale, magnifique! Et Celibidache, quel chef!
this is just genius... i cried.
Celibidache transformed the Münchner Philharmoniker into the best orchestra in the world. Period. I had the great luck to hear many concerts with them in the 80s in Munich.
I am jealous :D joking
but I wish one day I sit and listen to a masterpiece like this
Great orchestra, certainly not the best in the world.
@@hansmahr8627 which orchestra? It always depends on the conductor
@@benediktschlegel8233 It does. But there are of course orchestras that are better than others in terms of the individual talent of the players. It's pretty obvious that the Berlin Phil for example is one of the best orchestras in the world, to play there you need to be an incredible musician. Most orchestras can't really compete with that. A great conductor can of course take a very good orchestra and make it sound like a great orchestra, that's what Celi did with the Münchner Philharmoniker.
@@hansmahr8627 It's like football. Quality of the players isn't always enough.
There will never be another Celi...
mike live Yep! Fully agree.
There shouldn't be. There should be only one of each, but each one doing his best. And maybe someday there will be another chance for doing music in this way.
mike pen Agree. Time has changed and Celi time never will come back, now, the things are doing so different.
More like will never be another furtwangler after celibidache.
Celi was insane with his slowness. Insane and great, as all great artists are. And give an award to the percussionist, please.
it's not slow. It's just phenomenal
Bruckner & Celibidache; a match made in heaven!!
I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR HIM DO MAHLER TOO.....
Celibidache said about Bruckner (on October 10th, 1991, Madrid) that he was the best composer of symphonies, and about Mahler that he was one of the worst ignorants ever.
@@CatalinBordea worst ignorants ? what do you mean boy ?
@@themoroccanpianist8953 I guess Celibidache wanted to say that Mahler was ignorant of the fenomenology of music while Bruckner understood it instinctively, but I don't necessarily agree with that statement. What is clear is that Bruckner was, indeed, an excellent composer.
@@CatalinBordea he was the teacher of mahler ?
Bruckner 8....such an inspired creation...takes me to the very gates of heaven....
What a superb conductor! More than 100 minutes of symphony without a score in front of him... Millions of musical notes in his head...
Also a brilliant mind. He spoke fluently in German, French, English, Italian, Spanish, Romanian being his native language. I think he also knew some Russian and Danish. He was also a piano and violin maestro. Name another person in life or one that passed away with half these qualities and I'll bow before him.
doctor in music,philosophy and mathematics!
More importantly what a superb composer Anton Bruckner is
@@wabissabi Violin maestro? He never played the violin...
Just a note: there are many conductors who do not use score particularly when conducting this very work + this work is actually ~80 min long, what makes it over 100 min here is the tempos chosen by Celi. Best!
R.I.P. Peter Sadlo (timpanist)
26:24
but look at the fun he had! :) 1:17:55
Never knew about this guy, just check him out on WP, great and young lost, RIP!
That's very sad to hear.
22:50
Bruckner’s symphonies will quench and moisturize the dryness of the soul, and evoke comfortable feelings and people of mind
@@malena3669
Thankyou
Good luck🍓🍇🎑🎋🎏🎎🎴🎑🇯🇵
@@malena3669
Good Morning
The Cherry Blossoms in full bloom in Tokyo is starting to fall
Streams, rivers, ponds, riads and parks are dyed with pale pink Cherry Blossoms
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Magnificent performans....thank you dear artists,great respect to all...Great Maestro Celibidache
My favorite conductor. He is just amazing. This record is one of the most valuable version of Bruckner Symphonies.
One of the greatest Symphonies ever composed!
Il would be compared only with Mahler's 3rd, but this one is not really a symphony and has no internal coherence.
Bras, You must have not studied this piece. If you had studied the piece, you wouldn't have been able to say the same thing as it has 'no internal coherence'.
@@TheEhsk830 I get it. No problem here. But,... I might have an advantage over some (Bras?). I have been seriously studying music since in the womb - and I ain't no Spring chicken (although, even as a 'Spring chicken', I arleady knew...)
I find that most performances of Bruckner's Symphonies are expedient and poorly prepared attempts at making sense out of demanding scores. I can only imagine the patience and time needed to peel the layers and produce the majesty we hear with Celibidache. I've been listening to this performance since the 1990s and I still regard Bruckner's Eight by Celibidache the crown jewel of symphonic music, in sophistication, depth and eloquence unmatched since. I apologize for the superlative, such is my enduring enthousiasm for the beautiful minds of Bruckner and Celibidache.
I have to admit that I had never heard of Celibidache untill now. But anyone who can conduct music at the level of Bruckner without a score is okay in my books. I find that,despite the complexity of Bruckner's symphonies, their is a lucidity there, a sense of inherent light throughout. I'm not much of a conductor myself, having only taken a summer course in the basics, but I love hearing the different ways conductors treat a score. I like what I hear here.
hi thats the finest comment i've ever read about Bruckner and Celibidache, indeed 'the crown jewel' perfect. In fact i cant help thinking this is how Bruckner wished his music to sound. cheers
I’m still trying to understand this symphony. I love most of the other Buckner symphonies from #3 forward, but this does not (yet) move me emotionally. I hear passages of beauty here, such as at the end of the third movement, but haven’t yet wrapped my head around the piece as a whole. I will keep listening from time to time until it begins to move me.
@@peterruark645 I have had the same problem since I was an adolescent. I love the centre two movements but can't work out the forms of the outer two. The material just doesn't seem able to justify the length of time accorded to it. The finale just seems to be all stop start episodes with no binding narrative. It reminds of that quote re. Wagner "fine moments but bad quarter hours". I have read somewhere that the finale is Bruckner's most complex formal set out but I just can't get it to hang together.
Celibidache's Bruckner interpretations are definitely a cut above the rest with the exception of Furtwangler in my opinion. As great as this interpretation is, Furtwangler's1944 recording with the VPO is far better, probably the greatest Bruckner recording of all time. Highly recommended.
What a symphony. incredible. and what a great conductor which i love.
le timbalier est fantastique!
1:17:54 In Honor to Peter Sadlo.
So epic!!
@@LuxGamer4ever For me, best ever Timpanist perfomance: technic, skill an PASSION.
R.I.P.
Requiescat in pace!🙏
R.I.P.
Formidabile, eccezionale; bellissima musica, bravissima orchestra, bravissimo direttore
Definitely the best interpretation for this symphony. Celibidache Always manages to transmit his great passion and is very passionate, specially while conducting Bruckner. His slow time is a fantastic way to imagine and almost to elevate your soul!
My favorite Conductor!Sublime MUSIC!🎼🙏🙏🙏🌹
Absolutely. Sergiu Celibidache is the best and only Bruckner conductor who has understood Bruckner.
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1:05 Allegro moderato
21:14 Scherzo
38:04 Adagio
1:10:05 Finale
Je regrette tellement de n'avoir pu voir cet immense chef d'orchestre en direct!...
I am with you...
moi aussi......
C est merveilleux !
1:05 Allegro moderato
21:14 Scherzo
38:04 Adagio
1:10:05 Finale
My favourite bit is from 0:00:00 to 01:42:20
Uhu Wonderful , me too! The whole "in a single point", from beginning to end (see Celi's interview in French about "Music and Truth". Thank you
You selected the best bit, for sure, Gerhard, but if you were going to die very soon and you could listen to a few seconds only, surely you would choose those few seconds after 46:02? Those 4 Wagner tubas are incomparably sublime!
Then you have good tastes
I see the joke you were attempting to say,but surely for it to really work,the starting time of your best bit cannot be 0:00:00,but 0:01:27?All there is in the first 1'27" of the video is 20 seconds of silence,followed by almost 40 seconds of some audience applause,followed by half a minute of silence?! So to have included that first 1'27" in "your favorite bit",you are in effect,saying you find silence and people clapping the equal of great music?? OH. MY. G. O. D.!!! May I suggest my friend,that that is a truly preposterous notion!! (Pleez,pretty pleez with hundreds and thousands on-can I??).
@@pulstop Would I want to slip into eternal sleep listening to the Adagio in Bruckner 7?
Or would I want to embrace fully the finality of death, and listen to Wagner's Entrance of the Gods into Valhalla?
It could go either way. Still, an original thought which I will carry with me for several years, maybe for life. Thank you.
After years of listening to many performances of this symphony, few or none of them can hold a candle to this.
Same here! tons of passages I had never paid enough attention :)
possibly the greatest creation of all of music, Bruckner 8
I don't like exaggerations. Bruckner is one of my most favorite composers, and, as a matter of fact, he is my preferred symphonist, but I would never label any symphony by him as 'the greatest'.
I'd give that to Mahler 2, but to each his own.
Possibly your statement is quite idiotic...
Is as good as anything else.
Celibidache sometimes called BRUCKNERs 8th "Krone der Symphonik".
This is an experience that cannot be expressed in words. Bruckner and Celibidache are one heart and one soul.
Gemma, I've told you before, I love you because we are completely at one on this! x
I am a snob. I agree. And dang well I should. This is magnificent.
This is an AWESOME, GLORIOUS performance! Sergiu Celibidache is the last man on earth to believe in Bruckner! He is overfilled with Bruckner's awesome , spiritual, depth, and, above all, ELEVATION!
He gave us an overpowering performance with, at the same time, the grand, True, respect of "ONE GREAT MAN TO ANOTHER"!
Thank You, You Tube for bringing us, for---- startling, us---- with such a TRUE, IMPOSING, work of Art!
All advertisers involved, truly, deserve to be most generously patronized!!!!+
Die zweite Fassung von Bruckners Achter von 1890 genau 100 Jahre später unter Celi : das ist doch ein würdiges Geburtstagsfest !
This symphony was written to be performed by Celibidache and Peter Sadlo (the timpanist) both of whom are enjoying their times together in Heaven with Bruckner.
Regardless of thought regarding tempo. WHAT AN AMAZING SYMPHONY. From start to end just a COMPLETE MASTERPIECE. For me one of the greatest creations of mankind, another planet in the solar system
+Ethan yes indeed the Bruckner 8th is a vast and awesome spiritual journey
Ethan no indeed! Although I'm a sort of Bruckner fan, I think you exaggerate. Bruckner's symphonies, like any other human creation, have their own limits. And the same is true about Celibidache's wonderful interpretation.
Yossi Peles
Tempo? I love this interpretation. Righteous stuff.
@@yossipeles7864 What are you even trying to say? You got a problem with Bruckner, or with Celi? ... OR do you have a 'problem' with the original poster's feelings, opinions, descriptions thereof of this recording? Make sense!!!!
Goodness. Your reply is leading me to suspect you don't know much about music and its target (human beings), at all.
この世のものとは思えない素晴らしさ・・・この音楽は異世界、形而上のものだ。この音楽とこの演奏には、もはや芸術という、ありきたりな言葉では、その偉大さや素晴らしさを語り表現する事はできないような気がする。
A phenomenal performance of perhaps the greatest symphony of Bruckner, the genius garbed in humility!
This symphony is among the most difficult to conduct & in Bruckner's day, many conductors did shy away.
Sergiu Celibidache, among the greatest conductors ever, gives an unbelievable performance & is truly the best for Bruckner.
Sometime back, Bruckner's 7th transported me to the 7th heaven. The 8th, with Celibidache has taken me to the unheard of 8th heaven!
Kudos to the orchestra and the conductor!
Thanks for the post.
Jamshed K Delvadavala
Mumbai.
I have known and loved this music for 62 years. This is magnificent Celibidache indeed, with a superb orchestra responding to his every direction. Wonderful sound and video. Especial thanks for letting us see that outstanding timpanist.
Fuck the experts! Take it or leave it...it's all subjective folks! For me, Celibidache will always be correct! I accept every little thing he applies to his art as being absolutely note perfect!
well said, well said !!! :-)
he finds the truth.
And I say well said too! One of things I regret most is not have being able to see him conduct live.
Do you need to be so crude ? I assume you are ignorant, and can't articulate a point without vulgarity. Are you American, by chance?
The Seasoned Master , Celibidache Providing ( As Usual ) The Most Definitive Interpretation of The Bruckner 8th Ever Heard By Mankind !!!...
Those brass declamations in the 2nd movement are the most purely joyous moments I can think of. Just sublime.
Spellbinding, magnificent performance. Maestro Celibidache is perfectly in sync with Bruckner - there is an inner logic to all of this- it does not seem slow to me- perfect. I did not want it to end! Bruckner's 8th has been called the Everest of Western Music; indeed it is! thank you for this transporting experience!
What a magnificent performance!!! Truly sublime!
Notice how he stands with the orchestra during the applause - as if saying it’s a team effort! Love it!
It certainly IS a team effort. Good on him. Good on them. GOOD ON YOU for knowing.
So good. SO good. Especially the finale, out of this world.
“Out of this world” is a perfect description.
Bruckner would be delighted to hear this performance
Bruckner and Celibidache is realy something for feeling people in the world. Thank You!
The late great Peter Sadlo pounding out those notes on his timpani drums is a joy to watch at 1:38:42 !!!
Movements
I: 1:05
II: 21:14
III: 38:04
IV: 1:10:06
+Dylan Entz Thank you~!
+Dylan Entz Thank you ! :)
1:04:00 to 1:09:50 is pure zen and I'm certain that's what Celi was going for. Oh to have been in Tokyo on that night...
absolutly
Thank you so much!!!
BRUCKNER, THE GREAT MUSIC ARCHITECTURE, PLAYED BY GREAT MUSICAL CONSTRUCTOR.
Esta es la mejor sinfonía de este compositor, y el director transmite el amor
de una obra casi eterna, no conozco mejor versión que esta.
1:00:10 what an incredible moment. This point to the big e flat major climax is my favourite part of the symphony
I saw two performances on this tour. Will never forget either. We could hear him singing along throughout from where we were sitting....somewhat Glenn Gould-ish. But it was marvelous. Such a genius and Munich sounded wonderful.
Gould: Recording is everything, concert hall is nothing. Celibidache: Concert hall is everything, recording is nothing. LOL.
HE DID THAT SEVERAL TIMES THRU THE 4 BRUCKNER SYMPHONIES I HEARD SO FAR,,,,BERNSTEIN DID AS WELL....HIS WAS MORE HUMMING....SERGIUS A GREAT DANCER TOO,,CHECK OUT HIS ENESCU RHAPSODY.....
That happens with other symphonies also. You can hear it quite clearly in the (Tokyo) 8th. Gould was even more vocal.
@@riverstun True dat! But, SO DAMN GLAD this was recorded. AWESOME stuff.
@@andywalmart Indeed! Love watching the Rhapsody. Celi was always so into the music. It came out of every bit of him. Just a "little finger" movement meant something when conducting. The glint in his eye at such times demonstrated his passion.
I am far from being an expert in classical music, but Ive still heard quite a lot and I feel like Bruckner's compositions are among the most intense [yup the right word] classical pieces
You can HEAR the passion.
Add Gustav Mahler's symphonies, conducted by Leonhard Bernstein to the list, as intense as it gets
Paul Wieland is correct in suggesting that you explore Mahler. I'm gonna go a little further...
Keep exploring music - 'serious' (classical, a misnomer), pop, folk, dance, all of it - and you will probably more and more appreciate all of the great works in all of the genres.
Tchaikovsky Symphony No. 5.
Check out Bruckner's Symphony No. 4 - Heaven and Hell and all in between, really!
Check out Shostakovich Symphony No. 11 - here you go, maybe the best recording EVER of that one:
Shostakovich: Symphony No. 11. Landmark Performance - Stokowski & the Houston Symphony Orchestra.
th-cam.com/video/tV_jzHksJ8A/w-d-xo.html
Enjoy and many blessings to you and yours!!!!
That's correct!
Heartbreakingly beautiful.
I have to say, I am actually quite pleased with how this turned out.
For me there is something very special about Celibidache and Bruckner. It's remarkable he can conduct such long symphonies without the score - that, even for a musician, is quite a feat of memory. His slower tempi work with Bruckner and he has an acute sense of dynamic balance. I love how, at the end, he congratulates the orchestra, shakes hands, etc. and only after that does he turn to face the applause. Multumesc maestro Celibidache.
Bruckner’s symphonies are the stronghold of my soul
@@malena3669
Malena
My back hurts
The strong painkillers prescribed by the doctor are not working
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1:10:12 - 1:11:30 is definitely my favorite part in any symphony, the chords are just so big and heavy
My favorite Bruckner interpretation ever!
this interpretation is just right. One concept and one clear story.
"Ti Ti!" -Celi's shout over the orchestra appearing sometimes... 🌹🌹🌹
Erhaben, unerreichbar, einfach großartig!
Outstanding performance! I've watched this many times and never cease to be moved by Celibidache's command of his orchestra. With the slightest of gestures, he has the Munich Philharmonic in his hands. No indulgence, no self-awareness, just a very calm way of conducting and the smoothest unfolding of Bruckner's 8th (there couldn't be a better way to get into Bruckner's universe than this). At the end of the performance, Celibidache's body language tells it all. He is first and foremost with his players, standing at their side, barely looking at the audience, giving thanks for the most spiritual of performances. I've seen and heard this symphony performed by many other conductors and no one comes close. Truly a memorable concert.
I admit that I rarely listens to this symphoni but the third movement. So much more I love that. It's like flying in a glider over the alps.
flemming dalsgaard ...you are a poet Flemming! Nicely said...
I have got to the end of the scherzo. I remember hearing Haitink conduct this and getting quite bored at times but this performance is totally totally riveting. This conductor, I am ashamed to say, is new to me. A very late discovery. Better late than never: this is without a shadow of a doubt the best Bruckner I have ever heard. His control over the players is phenomenal; the attention to detail; the wonderful balance throughout the orchestra, the togetherness of the pizzicati (always a problem), but above all that glorious sound! I'm in seventh heaven!
Timpanist: bossman :)
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The Scherzo kind of sums up what people both love and hate about Bruckner. The haters says it's repetitive. And in many ways they are right, Bruckner is repetitive. And in a bad performance that repetition can be boring and tedious. But in a great performance that very repetition is what gives it it's driving power. That churning figure in the Scherzo builds up energy like a spring and drives the music on like a train climbing a mountain, all the time producing some of the most powerful music written for an orchestra. Give me Bruckner's repetition any day! :)
For me its like being in the belltower of a church with them swinging back and forth. Like the end of Bruckner 5. I just find it joyous.
Celibidache eschewed recording believing that only LIVE music was Music- late in his career he agreed to have recordings made, so it is no wonder that he is not as well known as some others. But once hearing his performances of Bruckner [as well as pretty much anything else!] he is unforgettable. His Bruckner is at a slow pace, but never is it slack, all of the musicians are with him- riveted to him- what concentration! - it is palpable. thank you.
He was undoubtedly the best Bruckner conductor. I had a ticket to go to listen to him conduct Bruckner in Berlin, but he broke his hip and cancelled. Then shortly after he died, so I was left without hearing him live. But the people who have heard him live say that it was an incredible experience.
Celibidache is unparalleled when it comes to Bruckner. Every comparison with other conductors in vain. Just enjoy this stellar performance and music.
Cmon. There is no "unparalleled" conductor of the Great B.
Listen to the others.
They each get a feel for the genius that happens in the Bruckner symphonies.
What is amazing is that most performances do not change the music in tempo, only in arrangement. What do you think?
Versión definitiva en muchos sentidos. Celibidache sostenía que a Bruckner no se le interpreta, se le experimenta.
@@Jivanmuktishu right, there is Celibidache and the others in Bruckner. And there is no interpretation in my words, maybe is too much science here for your ears ?!
What means arrangement to U ?
What means tempo, u know ?
There is no arrangement here in Celibidache.s bruckner 8.th, but i can explain u smth: u are un unhappy ignorant, who.s uneducated ears did not allow to yourself to hear/feel above your education. Also as mine, but i recognize..
@@Jivanmuktishu the other answer for u is the difference between Celibidache and the others, including Karajan for example..is like the difference between talent and genius. U and me, are too stupid to make tottaly true sentences of these subjects, but surely i.m right, even if u mind.
@@Jivanmuktishu I agree with dimace100 100%...like Jiva Das's comment too!
Nothing makes me sadder than the memory of my late mother and the symphonies of Bruckner .
From Tokyo of the Land of the Rising Sun .
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This symphony calls you yourself up, and the whole of your life, such that it is. And there it is, in your heart your mind your eyes, the triumph, the defeats, the monumental depths of grief, every experience, and the music of Bruckner (of God?) calling you to question everything you are. And to cherish yourself as a child of God. Read the comments here, and see how many times people visualize this musical experience as a spiritual one.
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Thankyou
Wonderful story and comment
See you again🎏
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Thankyou
Good luck
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@@shin-i-chikozimaHello 👋 thank you, how are you Shinichi, I still get emails from Germany in my office! still answering!..As my Godparents say...Business is Business!.
a few more and I retire to my Foaming and Perfumed Relaxing SPA, for at least an hour I want to be floating in my delicious Relax!between round scented candles everywhere, this is my private Spa! They already told me that everything is OK🛀👱♀Do you want to come with me to my Spa?️
Ich Liebe Dich!❤I love you So...I'm alone and thinking about you~
Remarkable performance that breathes new life into majestic music. Too often we take life for granted. Thank you for sharing this experience.
부르크너 교향곡 해석은 역시 첼리비다케가 제일 잘하는것 같군요.
게다가 곡을 느리게 연주해서 그만큼 깊이있고 아름다운 소리가 나서 더욱 좋은 연주였습니다.
Those timpani! Petr Sadlo! Exceptional!
1:18:40 Happy Timpanist!
Amazing how some rare conductors can really bring out the music...I love to watch them temper and then set the orchestra forth...Wonderful performance
R.I.P. Celibadache! What a beautifully recreation of Bruckner’s genius, in my dreams, this is very much placing me in these imaginary scenes, as if Bruckner was there to conduct the orchestra!!!
Să dirijezi de o asemenea manieră Orchestra din Munchen este extraordinar Celibidache este un profesor și dirijor fără pereche
I often underestimated the conductor but never this fine orchestra. In this superb recording, I wished I have never said anything bad against Mr. Celi. This is highly superior and for the most Brucknerian slow tempo lovers unique and unsurpassed live recording ever. I became one of them.
Yes, but a live experience was something higher over a recording. The magic was much more intensive
Many conductors, even some of the great ones, specialize in certain composers and don't interpret some of the others as well. Case in point is George Szell. His Beethoven is absolute perfection. His Brahms is a bit too shallow in my opinion and seems to lack the bottom heaviness and the lyricism that was characteristic of Brahms.
@@dusanss39 Indeed, but to many of us, the live experience is not an option. 😞To experience such as this is far beyond my reach, though not my dream.
Wow, what an amazing performance. It's like the music is unfolding while time is standing still.
For years I only had the Nagano recording so I'm used to a long performance so the additional 11 minutes compared to that didn't bother me. Still, it's a far cry at the other end of the spectrum from the Paita recording, at an incredibly svelte (some might say anorexic) 74 minutes.
Maestro is adept at making sure we hear every note Bruckner wrote and has a sure hand at making the musical logic inescapably obvious. The Munich Philharmonic plays beautifully (the timpanist is a standout) and the recorded sound is excellent.
This is a very good summary of Celi's interpretations in general.
Great performance. The percussion chap is striking
Großartige Aufführung dieses großartigen Meisterwerks mit perfekt synchronisierten und gut harmonisierten Töne aller Instrumente. Die Bläser sind besonders ausgezeichnet. Der erfahrene Maestro dirigiert das ausgezeichnete Orchester im relativ langsamen Tempo mit perfekt kontrollierter Dynamik. Das ist Bruckner!
1:10:25 Low Brass MMMM
note to self 1:27:13
Bruckners "Mysterium" in einem perfekten Geschenpaket, dass man als Zuhörer und -seher nur genussvoll auspacken kann.
Orchester und Dirigent eine harmonisch abgestimmte Einheit. Kein grobes "Gefuchtel"am Pult. Blicke genügen.
Die Pauke höchst motiviert und mitreissend. Selbst Meister Celibidache geniesst diese Aufführung mit "seinen"
Münchner Philharmonikern. Eine Sternstunde und Krone der klassischen Musik!!
Sophia Mager Ja, absolut. Vor allem die Pauke ist hervorragend. oft unterschätzt ist die Perkussion ein sehr wichtiges Element. Und sonst: ich habe bis jetzt viele Interpretationen gehört. Keine ist so beeindruckend wie diese.
@@martinzoller7956 : In Stuttgart hat Celi ( nicht nur ) Bruckners Achte schon in den 1970er-Jahren präsentiert ! Auch wir in Stuttgart sind froh, ihn erlebt zu haben ! Und einige der Musiker vom Radiosinfonieorchester haben in seiner Tradition ein " Bruckner-Sinfonieorchester " aus der Taufe gehoben - und natürlich auch Bruckners Achte musiziert im Geist von Celi.
Amazing stuff! Celibidache's approach gives such a rich texture, sensually lush, if you like! Never heard many musical interpretations of this calibre!
What a wonderful work! Somehow reaching deeper places than Mahler or Wagner. A great, intense performance!
Mahler and Wagner seem to be their own God, whereas Bruckner seeks -and finds- God.
best version ever. thx celi. what a brilliant coda!
celi.peter sadlo.ありがとう。。。
1:01:00 after the climax one of the most beautiful melodies ever written
If I stay away from it for a year, I just dissolve into tears when I listen to it. It's just so tender. It's like....well....love.🥰
@@nicholasschroeder3678 The buildup from 58:00 into the section you describe, all the way to the restatement of the first theme near the end of the movement is pretty much peak Bruckner for me
Absolutamente genial Celibidache. Nadie hace Bruckner como él. Bravo.
I just love this !