BEST JOYSTICK for Flight Simulator? (Logitech Extreme 3D Pro)
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- Is the BEST JOYSTICK for Flight Simulator the Logitech Extreme 3D Pro Joystick? We have Ultimate guide to the 3D PRO., Is it worth buying cheap joysticks?
Logitech Extreme 3D PRO Links:
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✈️ Logitech Extreme 3D PRO: geni.us/aus3dpro (Amazon)
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Logitech Extreme 3D Pro was one of the first joystick I've owned when FSX came out back in 2006 and used it for over 10 years, this is the perfect affordable yet reliable joystick for beginners
Agree Tyler. Cheers mate.
What are you using now
I have this joystick , I would have loved to seen your sensitivity settings. Because default is way to sensitive.
Yes Sir and thank you again am watching you new clip now.:)
i have that same joystick. what are ur sensitivity settings?
That looks so cool. I’m wanting to jump into the sim world after watching all of this looks so fun!!! Great review
I got this joystick. Does the job well in MSFS 2020 and Elite for me too
Great to hear Laurie, thanks
@@AusFlightSimmer My Fav Flightsim Channel. Much Love from 🇬🇧
i have that same joystick. what are ur sensitivity settings?
I have the Logitech 3d Pro, have had it since its first release think I got it when I bought FS2002 or 2004, It has been my faithful flightsim companion and I have used it for many other things too, One of the weirdest that I used is the twist feature as a steering wheel when I first got Euro Truck Simulator 2 (Works better than the keyboard) and when I did get a wheel I used it as a gearstick for the same game, the Logitech 3d pro is very versatile very easy to use. The joystick and has stood the test of time for me, Even now when I have "upgraded" to a Saitek yoke, I find myself often switching back to the ol joystick, especially considering it doesn't take up nearly as much space on my desk. My personal opinion if ya short on dosh and really want some bang for ya buck, this one's the way to go. PS well-done Shane I'm glad this one is good at landing the Snezna - Time for some English tutoring I think. ;)
I'm lost for words!!!!
Got mine a year and a bit ago, have used it quite a lot and it has definatly done a good job! Despite being careful with it, the Rudder Axis is now broken and I might upgrade to the TCA Officer Pack sometime soon. But overall, great stick, but the Rudder did not last long for me.
Good to know!
the extreme 3d pro is the joystick i use for MS FS2020. had to clean off a layer of dust that was on it as i had bought it for Flight Sim X back in the day. still works great, despite being over a decade old. i did have to give the rudder some dead zones as i noticed i was getting slight rudder movement when moving the ailerons.
Will work forever.
I've been playing Flight Simulator with a keyboard for several months and just got this joystick today and it makes the experience much more enjoyable. I should have purchased one of these a long time ago. It was on sale for only $19.99 USD when I bought it. A great deal!
Great review of the 3D. I actually use it for DCS Helos along with a x52 throttle which I use as a collective when in copters and in Arma 3 when flying there. I use my X52 Pro stick and throttle when in MFS 2020. Its a great cheap stick and is very good. I Use two X52 joy sticks in Elite as well as a X 52 throttle.
About 15 yrs or more ago I had the Logitech with force feedback which was a nice idea, gave effective feedback as the ‘pressures’ on the different flight surfaces changed during manoeuvres, but after a while it went a bit crazy with random shuddering. In the end I ditched it for the Saitek X52 flight control system including pedals (which I don’t use often, mainly the joystick and separate throttle control). It’s been great for many years with capacity to map the many knobs, , dials , switches and sliders to the controls - in a totally different league to a simple joystick of course.
I remember the force feedback one :)
I have had one of these since the early Microsoft sim days back in the 90's! Used again when I bought FSX and Combat FS. Been shelved for the past few years when I changed to a MAC and couldn't use my old FSX. Bought a new computer this past October for the sole purpose of FS2020 and resurrected the joystick. Would love a yoke, but the wife doesn't quite understand!!! But this joystick works just fine for me with all the aircraft, even the airliners. I can certainly live with it. Guess it hasn't changed since the early days, but would highly recommend it to anyone wanting as you say, a cheap but efficient control system. Appreciate all your FS videos. Thanks so much for doing them and enhancing the FS experience. Cheers from Calgary Canada.
Steve, thanks for the comment and kind words mate. Cheers
I got mine used for just 15€ and made a few modifications to improve tolerances, reduce play and completely eliminate the slight dead zone in the middle. It's now super precise, the only thing that annoys me about it is the throttle. Unfortunately, proper throttle quadrants, even the Logitech one, are currently ludicrously expensive.
what did you do to solve the dead zone? I put some grease on all the contact points and put another plastic spacer over the spring, its a bit more stiff for space sims(that its a good thing cause enhances the aim).
I've had this controller for a decade and it's still rock solid. Very happy with it.
Nice one.
Splendid video am hoping to plunge into fs 2020 within the next 6 months and doing research for joysticks atm Thank You
I love it and still use it. I love the hat switch and the other buttons. I can set up my views and I can easily see when I’m flying a pattern.
thanks. New to MSFS, and have this joystick coming in the mail. I was happy to see it's easy to get started with.
Thanks! great run through!
Worn 3 or 4 of theses out over decades of simming and love em to bits.......specially suited to A320 first officer's seat 😁
Thanks for the comment.
I have the wireless version, Freedom 2.4, which I got when FSX came out. It quickly developed a rudder axis drift issue where the rudder would be turned a bit to the left when the stick was centered. When FS2020 came out, I finally tried to open the thing and fix it but managed instead to clip off a small bit of plastic and now it's basically useless. Also, there was no preset control setup for it in FS2020. Very happy with the T16000M I got to replace it.
Cheers, thanks for the comment Juha.
Nice video Shane. Keep it up, this is perfect for me.
Ahhh, no problem. thanks for checking out the video.
I have had this joystick for many years. It still works as well today as it did when new. As you have clearly pointed out, it works extremely well with FS2020!! I think this joystick is the best entry-level stick out there. Having said that, I am upgrading (finally) to their Yoke and Throttle package. If it is as good and solid as the joystick, I will be one very happy customer! Thank you for sharing this review. Cheers!
Cheer Jamie, congrats on the upgrade.
Used this joystick years ago, it was great. The thrustmaster t16000, is also a budget hero too.
Thank you Cheers
The 3D Pro was the first joystick I used coupled with a CH Products throttle for Elite:Dangerous. Served me well until I upgraded to an X52 Pro a couple of years back
Nice one, thanks.
Extreme 3D Pro is an awesome joystick! I got my first one on the same day I got FSX back in 2009. Used it so much on FSX and heaps of other games too. That one lasted until about 2013, and it was just the throttle was getting a bit loose and the calibration was a bit off. Then I just bought another Extreme 3D Pro. In 2015 I was getting more in to DCS, so uograded to a TM HOTAS Warthog, and gave my still perfect Extreme 3D Pro to my brother.
Very cool!
Great review man! Agree with everything you’ve said. I’ve used this joystick for absolutely years now and it’s still going strong 💪🏼
Awesome,, Thank you.
I've had this joystick. It works fine but over time the potentiometers begin to wear out and you get jaggy control inputs. But that's true for any entry level joystick.
Cheers, thanks for the comment.
True for the expensive ones too.
just wore out my original one after 10 years of intermittent use (and it was 2nd hand for $5 in 2011); replacement from amazon is currently $64.90aud delivered - works a treat in rise of flight, hawx, il-2 cliffs of dover blitz, and no doubt any other scenario
a very capable controller for crazy cheap
For IL2 do you use any other external hardware besides the joystick?
I have this, along with the X-56 Hotas. I think I prefer this stick over the X-56 stick. The X-56 feels so loose and wobbly. This one feels more responsive. Just wish it had more of the fancy hotas buttons on it.
This stick may be great for a budget in general, It's incredibly ergonomic and comfy - it has 12 buttons and a decent weight. But if you are looking for any kind of precision (ie dogfighting) you will need rudder pedals and a throttle with extra buttons to even have a chance of accuracy.
Actually, all you really need for accuracy is skill, knowledge of your guns/missles/bombs, and knowledge of the HUD/Gunsight
Have had this stick for a while, but would appreciate any help you could provide in setting up the Reverse Thrust command using the throttle slider (say the first quarter inch as the reverse so there would have to be a null section at midpoint)
Hello.
I used to play with a USB PS2 controller, and I used to do a feature in menu controls, It's called: "Center ailer rudder" in flight control surface/Primary control surface section, (I think Number 5 on keyboard), So this feature make the yoke returns to the middle in cockpit & it's make the plane balanced & going straight when I lose control of the plane or when I take my hands off the controller to relaxing my hands or when I get up from the computer for a minute, So when I came back to the computer I found the plane still going in a straight way & I feel happy. (This function it's not Auto pilot, It's Center ailer rudder)
But after I play with a new joystick "logetich Extreme 3D Pro" and when I adjust the same feature (Center ailer rudder) on one of the joystick buttons. So when I click on that button. I see the yoke returns to the middle in cockpit, BUT when I take my hand away from the logitech joystick, the plane going down or going up.
So I have to hold the logetich joystick all the time to control the plane. Why was this not happening to me on the PS2 controller?
Is there any solutions?
This joystick does the job for me! My only complaint is sometimes I load into the sim and for whatever reason the rudder is not aligned which means I have to unplug it a couple times for it to align itself
I've got this one - can recommend it, can't go wrong
Awesome! I'm getting into sim drifting and thought I might be able to use this as a cheap e-brake option and perform decent for flying games.
Have you used it for any combat games? War thunder, world of warplanes
Yep work great.
Had this exact same stick since 2004 got it with FS2004 a century of flight and it has always been solid. Might buy another one now as it's gotten a bit worn after 18 years, but just goes to show how solid this stick is
Yep, agreed really solid stick.
are the older sticks compatible with msfs2020?
It is adequate for the price. At 40 dollars it does the job. I am using the VKB SIM Gladiator. It is a little more money but well worth it. It is extremely precise and smooth. I actually ended up finding the VKB when the Logi was completely unavailable for months.
Hi there buddy, I would like to know about the middle change view button. Will I able to pan it slowly or it would directly go to a specific view- like a keyboard. I know my Xbox controller I am able to pan it slowly. Thanks man
Fantastic video mate and you even donned the green t shirt for St Patrick’s day! ☘️
Legend!
Great video Shane!
Thanks Traden.
Hi there....I also have a Logitech Extreme 3D Pro joystick too...may I know which part of the joystick has the Hat Switch in case I want to adjust the pitch trim of the aircraft and others?
I had this one for many years. Great joystick. Recently I bought a chinese Hotas joystick with red bases called PXN 2119II for 50 euro's which I can recommend to test as well because I think it is actually pretty good
Do you know if it will work with Logitech throttle quadrant and rudder pedals? I use the Logitech yoke setup and was thinking of getting an inexpensive stick for some of the planes, but would like to be able to use my current throttle and pedal setup. Thanks!
Hi Shane, from wich airfield were you flying from? I've seen it in other videos from you and looks great. Thanks for the great videos.
Meigs Field :)
When I bought this a few years ago it was CAN $35 (about the same in AUS $) - a great buy at the time. The price has spiked up quite a bit though, it's now going for C$50
I've used this joystick for over 10 years. probably longer. I use CH Pedals and Throttle quadrant but this joystick. If it wears out.. which one did after many many years.. I just got a new one! so inexpensive. so solid!
I’m just going to sau mine, TCA, i’m more of a Logitech guy but love the tca series
Thanks for checking out the video.
I’ve had the Logitech 3D pro since 06 or 07 and it still works
Nice one Buddy.
3d pro is a beast of a stick, talk about reliable and unsurpassed price point.
I agree Jason. Cheers
There’s always a budget hero. I do bushcraft camping stuff too, there’s always one product in every category of gear, that seems to defy its price and match the expensive stuff in performance.
It just needs a bigger throttle thingy and upgrade to the optical magnetic or whatever control mechanism. Used to have this for flight sim years back. Got the new airbus, it’s smooth but the handle is too big and bulky and the top button 2 is hard to press plus the mappings and locations of the buttons are whacked! But hey it’s an airbus so it’s an airbus. Maybe I should’ve got the other thrust master (black spacey one) or the Logitech.
Thank you for the video, would this be a good choice to use with Helicopters in MSFS2020? I use the Alpha and Bravo equipment for flying in MSFS2020 but they are no good for Helicopter flying. Thank you.
Yes, if you didn't watch to spend much money.
Been using a speedlink black widow for years now. It is very cheap but ticks all the boxes. Had to configure in MSFS but took 5 minutes to do. Cheaper than this one but trying to get any stick in UK is hard or expensive
Things are a little over priced atm.
I had one of those back when I was playing X3:reunion, worked well, had it up until I stated playing DCS world when i got a Logitech x52 pro.
Cheers Greg.
This is an old post, but the best and most versatile economy joystick for Flight Simulator for just about 30.00 more is hands down the Thrustmaster T-Flight HOTAS-X!! It comes with a fullsize throttle, that is attached side by side or detached as a separate control! It has a rocker switch on the thottle handle that with press of a button could mirror the rudder controls or as a separate function, I had mine set as a tiller! It is both PC and XBOX compatible, with a flick of a switch!
On the cheap side, I'd recommend the Thrustmaster T Flight series. I used a T Flight X FSX edition for years and honestly it got the job done! I bought it for 20€ at the time (Yeah not quite that price today). Mine's dead now after being used so much, but I think the newer versions offer a decent option for simmers on a budget ^^ Might be worth reviewing that if you're down for more hardware reviews :)
For shore Sharkitty, we will be reviewing is as well. :)
Hello Aus Flight Sim I have a question please. I have the Logitec flight control throttle quadrant and rudder pedals. If I were to get the Logitec 3D Joystick can it just plug into the flight control main box where all the USBs plug into and will it work with the regular rudder pedals as well as the Throttle quadrant or will I need to use the throttle on the side of the unit and the twisting for the rudder pedals? Thank you for all your clips I watch everyone. You help lots of folks my friend and that is so cool.:)
It will work with rudders and throttles no problem. Thanks for the support.
This is the only joystick I've used. Mine has around 2500hrs on FSX and now 300hrs MSFS. Only just starting to notice some of the buttons on the base not working every time.
WOW :)
For the low price , it is very good quality ... enough buttons to assign controls to. Mine began go bad after it sat unused in a humid environment for about a year....tried taking it apart and cleaning it.... it got worse . Just ordered new one. IL-2 no fun without rudder authority .
I don't know about "the best", but it will get the basics done. That throttle would drive me nuts, and even though I got it's bigger brother (the t.16000m), even that wasn't heavy enough for me to not lift it off my lap desk so I velcroed it down. I wouldn't mind using the provided screw holes, but I'm not even sure how that works. But it does check all the boxes as you said. Personally, I would prefer a yoke, but my disability prevents that as I _must_ have the twist rudder function, but then again, that's my problem. I also use my stick left handed, as I have a TQS that I use with my right, which would eliminate the objection about the throttle (and indeed, make it's very existence unnecessary), and I don't think this guy has a left handed config option.
So there's my $0.02 for free, and I'll stop myself now before I write a fuckin' book, which I tend to do a _lot_!
Ha ha ha, cheers Kevy.
Hi, again I have a problem with the switches in the cockpit freezing. Can anyone advise please.
I am new to FS2020, been use to FS2004, LOL. With this Logitech joystick, I've been having problems steering during taxiing. Frequently the joystick stops responding causing me to miss turns even at slow speeds. This happens before takeoff and after landing. It's so bad, after I tried to turn from the runway 27-L at South Bend Airport (KSBN), I started to make the turn, and the simulator took me back on to the center of the runway. Finally, the game froze up and I had to initiate Task Manager to end FS2020. I also noticed that the sim. does not respond after saving new button assignments and saved to my Logitech Extreme 3-D device profile.
I mapped mine for Steam Train Simulator as well works great for that.
Any idea on how to set it up for Squad?
MS Sidewinder 2 is much better, but it has 4 fewer buttons. The problem with the Logitech is way too much tension in the spring.
Takes too much effort to move the stick.
Sidewinder is perfect.
I dismantled the Logitech, went to hardware store got softer spring.
Stick movement is great now.
Can you program the buttons to specific keys? for example, the "b" or "f". etc? Like I can do with my Logitech mouse?
To be honest i'm not sure. Never checked.
Thanks for the video, wait till it comes out on Xbox going to have a hard time finding flight controllers.👍
There is a few joysticks out at the moment that should work. Time will tell :) Cheers Joseph.
I started with a Thrustmaster Hotas stick,A huge and heavy unit with a large handful of throttle which can be separated from the stick section if required.MSFS binds it straight away.This is what I used on FSX but was always curious about force feedback which is a feature of FSX.So I went online and found that the Microsoft Sidewinder force feedback 2 is the one to get,the previous version was not usb.They still come up on Ebay and once I tried one I've never really been happy with the hotas stick.MSFS doesn't support it (ironically),so binding is down to the user.But there is a piece of software that can be used called XPForce which can be tweaked to your own preferences.Unfortunately there don't seem to be any Aussie ones at the moment so It's either US or UK sellers where there are plenty but beware the odd Ron Hopeful asking stupid money and they will be a bit over $100 AUD before postage costs......................
Thanks for the comment Russell.
HI I have this stick but I cant get it working on my Xbox Series X, it doesn't seem to recognise it at all , I hope you are able to point me in the right direction ??
Many Thanks,
Norman
Bro that thumbnail. Keep it up Aus I like your vids
Something different!!!!
Would you suggest using this for infinite Flight
I have mags 2020 on my Xbox series X but it is not seeing my Logitech pro ? Does anyone have any ideas ?
Can you combine this with logitech throttle quadrant
Does anyone or can anyone confirm the logic pro 3-D joystick work with a MacBook or MacBook M1
Just got this today and yep, it's been a huge improvement on the Xbox controller I'd been using 👍
Err... except for the fact that its horrendously heavy in pitch and bank. So much so that you have to hold the base down with your spare hand. Hence why many try to mod the spring.
Great video!
Awesome, thanks.
does it work on dcs?
I use the older Logitech Attack 3 Joystick that I had for over 10 years. I did not know that the Extrema has Axis rudder.
Sure dose. :)
i have that same joystick. what are ur sensitivity settings?
Can I use this on my Xbox?
Also used this for a good 10+ years but upgraded to the TM Airbus TCA a few months back - no regrets.
TCA are great. Just not with an Airbus :)
@@AusFlightSimmer 🤣 ... *expecting Imminent A320 landing challeges for tomorrow*
@@ukmaxi
how do you like the new TM Airbus TCA? How much of an improvement vs. the Logitech?
@@rich1958 My logitech was having some issues with the rudder which is why I replaced it. I have the TM Airbus Officer Pack + Flaps/Spoilers add-on, the sidestick and throttles are great, the flaps/spoilers are "okay", they feel a bit cheap and not really worth the price paid. My biggest gripe with the spoiler is that you can't 'arm' it like you can in the real plane. I've set aside a different button next to the engine start switch which I use for that.
Is the Thrustmaster Sidestick Airbus edition better than this? Coz that even looks like the real joystick.
I have that joystick. The spring is too hard. I don't think any aircraft stick returns to center when you release your hand.
Can it be used on Windows 11? and if possible, how?
Will this work for Xbox series x?
For the price it is amazing. getting this really made flying so much more fun!
Couldn't agree more!
I think the one I have is more than 20 years old, and I couldn’t tell you how many hundreds of hours I used it. Few months ago, found it in the basement, plugged it in for the heck of it, and it works perfectly. I can’t believe how much money I’ve spent on hotas since then lol.
I use the Fulcrum Simulator Controls yoke, MFG rudder pedals,(both have hall-effect sensors ) and Logitech Throttle Quadrant....
Shane did say he was after a cheap joystick ( not in the title though a bit naughty). Your gear is in the serious category. All my controllers have to include Hall sensors or I wouldn't even bother. Moved on from the cheap controls years ago but we all had to start somewhere.
Zorba Light same here, thanks for the comment!
Bill, was looking at the Fulcrum, are they still at pre order on their website.
Thanks Zobra!!!! Its all about the titles.
found this controller at my locale goodwill for 12 bucks. nice to know that i can use on most flight sims.
Hi! Is this will work with Xbox Series X?
does it work on windows 10?
I have this too. I got it when it was on sale for 30 euros and I’m very satisfied with it indeed! Ofcourse there are better ones out there but for what you pay, this is probably the best one.
Great value for money :)
I've had now 2 of these, and both of them fail horribly during the first 50-100 hours of use, dead play in the middle, and because of that uncontrollable middle area fine tuning. You have to use in-game or software to designate a deadzone in the middle. Im currently looking for another joystick indefinitely.
Is this joystick playable with xbox series s?
is it compatible with an Xbox series s/x?
What games can u play with this
compatible with xbox one ?
Plugged in the Logitech Extreme 3d into my laptop for Microsoft Flight sim 2020, using the default setting. But all the sim will allow me to use is the hat stick, to look left, right, etc.. Any tips on how to get the joystick to fly the planes? Thank You. Cheers.
Yes, you will need to unbound and re bound the hat switch profile.
I have this Joystick. I'm not sure its "The Best", but for under $100, yeah it works decent :P
She will last the test of time for sure.
They tend to become a little loose in the twist when they grow old, but works, I've had the three legged cordless one during a period of some 7 years, the stickgrip itself is the same. Now I'm using the black and orange Thrustmaster P16000M and it feels nice and has more buttons, also the sensors for the analogue bit has a more sturdy buildup. My son has one he has used for a really long time, so good that he bought two more a couple of years ago. I "borrowed" one of his! ;) as MSFS 2020 didn't recognize the old Logitech in the beginning.
Here is an advice for you , from a techy guy , get any kind of steering wheal , youll get paddles with it , and use that for rudder . Twisting your hand for rudder even if the joystick is precise and it is , i have it , its just too little movement , doing it with your feet can cost as little as 20$ , i actually took one set of paddles , disassembled it , used the electronics in it , but remade the gas and brake in to a bigger proper set of paddles , so it registers like Logitech , but is not Logitech , and its probably more precise then what they sell in store for a lot of money , so you can even do that .
And it perfect .
And yes forget the Hat Switch , use some kind of head tracking or Oculus quest 2 all together
When we are on Oculus , you can have it all virtual i that new game i forgot what its called , you dont need anything . I didnt try that , just watched the video .but looks good
just the kind of video i want
Ahhhh you are most welcome.